DC: "Boxing is more BRUTAL than MMA"🥊

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  • Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
  • Former double champion Daniel Cormier explains why boxing is more detrimental to an athlete's health than Mixed Martian Arts.
    Taken from The Joe Rogan Experience - JRE MMA Show #150 with Daniel Cormier

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  • @stevemeters3090
    @stevemeters3090 9 месяцев назад +12649

    Single trauma vs repeated trauma. Completely correct.

    • @ntsempty1209
      @ntsempty1209 9 месяцев назад +380

      I feel like MMA is more brutal but boxing is way more dangerous in that regard

    • @aseeal96
      @aseeal96 9 месяцев назад +47

      @@ntsempty1209well said

    • @RABJJ52
      @RABJJ52 9 месяцев назад +83

      @@ntsempty1209 I would say MMA has the opportunity to be even more brutal in certain instances but boxing is more brutal for you on a consistent basis

    • @Evilevilmonkeyy
      @Evilevilmonkeyy 9 месяцев назад +13

      Unless it’s gaethe vs Ferguson

    • @Bulldog23636
      @Bulldog23636 9 месяцев назад +1

      Nah

  • @unknowng888
    @unknowng888 9 месяцев назад +8917

    He actually explained that really really well.

    • @enriko__
      @enriko__ 9 месяцев назад +24

      No shit its what he does for a living

    • @unknowng888
      @unknowng888 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@enriko__ there’s a lot of people that do things as their day job and still don’t do a decent job. Take your sarcasm elsewhere, you’re probably American.

    • @lukamagicgod
      @lukamagicgod 9 месяцев назад +10

      ​@@enriko__hes an mma fighter

    • @bambootank1117
      @bambootank1117 9 месяцев назад +28

      @@enriko__ He is UFC Champion, he understands the game

    • @rauljimenez1508
      @rauljimenez1508 9 месяцев назад +1

      isnt that kinda factually wrong with boxing having less injuries (171,0 per 1000 fights) than mma (228,7 per 1000 fights)?

  • @chevy_1235
    @chevy_1235 9 месяцев назад +4950

    Bro formulated a perfectly structured essay in his mind

    • @steviechampagne
      @steviechampagne 9 месяцев назад +108

      anyone who’s ever tried to explain something this in-depth knows how difficult it can be to formulate the right sentences in real time.
      DC just proved the depth of his knowledge about the subject by explaining it so clearly and easily that even a dummy like me could grasp it 😂

    • @oturukira3182
      @oturukira3182 9 месяцев назад +8

      @NxjimNo one asked, nor cares.
      But thanks for the info G.

    • @jacobkeary6740
      @jacobkeary6740 9 месяцев назад +4

      That's called talking buddy

    • @jonathancarpenter399
      @jonathancarpenter399 9 месяцев назад +4

      This is also edited after the fact… you really think he spoke about this the whole time without Joe saying stuff?

    • @CNCMatrix
      @CNCMatrix 9 месяцев назад +1

      Yet anybody straight boxer that goes into that octagon gets destroyed.

  • @SideA628
    @SideA628 10 месяцев назад +27640

    He’s absolutely right.

    • @grahammarkham9398
      @grahammarkham9398 10 месяцев назад +114

      No.

    • @sammyboy2987
      @sammyboy2987 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@grahammarkham9398Yes

    • @mellidavis205
      @mellidavis205 10 месяцев назад +57

      Not

    • @MMAthlete
      @MMAthlete 10 месяцев назад +337

      ​@@grahammarkham9398yes he is

    • @greez6424
      @greez6424 10 месяцев назад +491

      @@grahammarkham9398bro hes a mma fighter you don’t know better than him

  • @brocksimmons345
    @brocksimmons345 9 месяцев назад +1899

    Respect to DC for not being biased

    • @brocksimmons345
      @brocksimmons345 9 месяцев назад +17

      @@aMyFy Because some fighters take pride in being part of such a violent sport

    • @zolaeight7574
      @zolaeight7574 8 месяцев назад

      @@brocksimmons345it’s not more violent, it’s less violent allowing for accumulation of brain trauma. MMA us much more violent and Allie for the body to recover only to reactive more trauma.

    • @KD-yb4xu
      @KD-yb4xu 8 месяцев назад +6

      @@zolaeight7574 incorrect. It looks more violent but the reality is MMA is pretty safe in comparison. Boxing has way more deaths and more athletes get brutal injuries in hockey and football than MMA. MMA is statistically a very safe sport

    • @TennoHaki
      @TennoHaki 8 месяцев назад +1

      You can't be biased when it's a fact.

    • @richiehustle
      @richiehustle 8 месяцев назад

      I love DC but it's nonsensical - take into account the gloves and oz of gloves. MMA gloves deliver greater damage hands down. Vs boxing gloves. So it's totally different levels. And plus he advocates MMA being more safe because you get knocked out only ones. Well lol. Thats kind of a crazy argument to throw in. How about checkings the stats of knocking people Unconscious in MMA and in boxing. MMA will always trump with those numbers.

  • @factswithrankings
    @factswithrankings 8 месяцев назад +135

    Boxing= long term damage
    MMA =Short term damage

    • @monkeguy747
      @monkeguy747 2 месяца назад +1

      Yeah you forgot a guy that skull got shattered

    • @kerpjosales1615
      @kerpjosales1615 2 месяца назад +2

      @@monkeguy747 Literal brain damage because the guy purposely punched the back of his nape and head

    • @southpaw9041
      @southpaw9041 Месяц назад

      I'd rather get repeatedly punched in the face with padded gloves than take 1 sharp elbow or knee into my eye socket.

    • @NazriBuang-w9v
      @NazriBuang-w9v 23 дня назад

      Lies again? UFC NASCAR Football Trial

    • @dixienormous9845
      @dixienormous9845 21 день назад

      @@monkeguy747You mean all one times that has happened?

  • @pat5262
    @pat5262 10 месяцев назад +12750

    He is referring to the repetitive micro-concussive blows that occurs more predominantly in boxing, particularly at the lighter weight classes.

    • @madisonpowell1694
      @madisonpowell1694 10 месяцев назад +64

      Spot on my guy🤙🏻

    • @Buckaroo_Banzai47
      @Buckaroo_Banzai47 10 месяцев назад +42

      Wouldn't it be about the same? You can still get knocked down in mma and keep fighting. The only thing I can think of for boxing is that the fights are longer, but I'd imagine you can do way more damage with kicks, knees, and elbows anyway.

    • @LOLCAMz
      @LOLCAMz 10 месяцев назад +192

      ​@@Buckaroo_Banzai47yep your pretty much right, the longer fights is a big part of it. Boxers do tend to throw a lot more strikes than in mma tho. Also yes obviously kicks and elbows do way more damage bit that's the thing if you get kicked in the head you're out, meanwhile look at a tko in boxing, sometimes they might eat 10 or so clean shots quickly in a row and be out on their feet before it's stopped. It's strange and hard to believe bit yeah that's basically why boxers end up with more brain damage than in most other combat sports

    • @Buckaroo_Banzai47
      @Buckaroo_Banzai47 10 месяцев назад +2

      @LOLCAMz for sure. The only thing you can do is block and dodge those hits.

    • @madisonpowell1694
      @madisonpowell1694 10 месяцев назад +30

      @Buckaroo_Banzai47 The thing with light oz gloves and elbows, knees, ect is a higher chance of ko or stoppage. In boxing you can take (hundreds). There are pro boxing fights where more than 1000 punches where thrown by one side. Light jabs for years rattle that brain. MMA has a much faster stoppage. Which I believe personally is good for the sport. Can't let unnecessary harm come to these guys, ya know. Anyway, nice chatting, I'm done shitting. Have a good one👍🏻

  • @Apaz0001
    @Apaz0001 10 месяцев назад +5913

    Mario Yamasaki is the equalizer of mma and boxing

    • @danielko7457
      @danielko7457 9 месяцев назад +290

      MARIO “FINISH HIM, HE’S STILL BREATHING” YAAAMAAAASAAAAKIIIIIIII

    • @mumblezz__5890
      @mumblezz__5890 9 месяцев назад +39

      Lmaooooooo

    • @kamuzungu5353
      @kamuzungu5353 9 месяцев назад +133

      MARIO “if he dies, he dies” YAMASAKI

    • @drazenstefanovic6122
      @drazenstefanovic6122 9 месяцев назад +13

      Bro ct for sure whatever you choose

    • @Gil-wv5mc
      @Gil-wv5mc 9 месяцев назад +50

      Mario "If he dies,he dies" Yamasaki 👀👀👀

  • @ElmaThudd
    @ElmaThudd 9 месяцев назад +522

    Look at the fatalities of some of the greatest boxer's in boxing history 🥊

    • @Maxx19986
      @Maxx19986 8 месяцев назад +5

      From muhammad Ali

    • @thabelochaphi1778
      @thabelochaphi1778 8 месяцев назад

      I mean we do have MMA fighters who were badly hurt after their career even during

    • @bryanmavis8771
      @bryanmavis8771 8 месяцев назад +6

      I got a feeling that isn't something we should be proud of 😅
      Still love boxing though

    • @becarefulwhatyoufish4764
      @becarefulwhatyoufish4764 8 месяцев назад +1

      Right? Boxing fans literally brag about their favorite boxers literally killing each other

    • @BALLARDTWIN
      @BALLARDTWIN 7 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@thabelochaphi1778
      In a 118 year period there has been 70 fatal injuries in MMA, 9 of them were from unsanctioned fights. For Boxing it's 923 cases of fatal injuries in the same 118 year period. So yeah...

  • @capofodedor7399
    @capofodedor7399 9 месяцев назад +3029

    Been training mma for 15 years and I absolutely agree with him

    • @dion.one1
      @dion.one1 9 месяцев назад +6

      You wrong

    • @Ricoxosama
      @Ricoxosama 9 месяцев назад +56

      @@dion.one1no your wrong

    • @dion.one1
      @dion.one1 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@Ricoxosama no

    • @rubenmoreno5731
      @rubenmoreno5731 9 месяцев назад

      @@dion.one1 “you wrong”
      Dionn.7961 - 2023

    • @Xiicyy
      @Xiicyy 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@dion.one1cry

  • @PakalamYT
    @PakalamYT 10 месяцев назад +4864

    In MMA when you get knocked down that usually spells the end of the fight. In boxing you can be knocked down three times in the space of 2 minutes and still continue

    • @charlesomane3759
      @charlesomane3759 10 месяцев назад +157

      That leads to brain damage over the years

    • @novarupture4582
      @novarupture4582 9 месяцев назад +57

      Sometimes tho, theres been plenty of dudes that have taken 5+ knockdowns in an mma fight with no 10 count and they're getting hit on the ground during recovery. Boxing is typically more dangerous long term for the average fight, but depending on the context an mma fight can be MUCH more dangerous.

    • @umar5138
      @umar5138 9 месяцев назад +77

      ​@@novarupture4582MMA more dangerous interm of skills. Boxing literally gets punched on the head for 30mins and includes knock down with countdown. In statistics, boxing leads to way more brain damage (percentage).

    • @novarupture4582
      @novarupture4582 9 месяцев назад +7

      @umar5138 that's why I said potential wise. Cause mma has had plenty of fights where dudes got punched in the head for 25 mins with knockdowns and no count as well..... go watch max hollaway vs Ortega lmao. TYPICALLY boxing leads to more brain damage but they both have the potential to be just as dangerous as the other. Yall are also forgetting the brain damage that choking people out leads to lol. Can you cite these statistics cause every single detailed study is either boxing only or both combined. The only study that separated them just showed that 7% of boxers have been knocked out vs 4.2% of mma fighters. And also showed that mma has a 60% injury rate while boxing has 49%.

    • @basedbane787
      @basedbane787 9 месяцев назад +16

      ​@@novarupture4582the majority of time is all that matters. Statistics show that sober drivers cause more accidents than drunks that doesn't mean it's safer to drive drunk

  • @JesseIbarra-f4r
    @JesseIbarra-f4r 9 месяцев назад +687

    The most honest and smartest thing I've ever heard Daniel speak...

    • @kamifonzo
      @kamifonzo 9 месяцев назад +29

      I feel like he’s known to be a pretty smart guy

    • @Jonbo117
      @Jonbo117 9 месяцев назад +25

      DC's a smart guy. Tf is this dude on?

    • @odysseynoone3831
      @odysseynoone3831 8 месяцев назад +5

      DC is always honest, humble, smart

    • @reinhardgayle4286
      @reinhardgayle4286 8 месяцев назад +2

      What are you talking about ?? he’s literally the peoples champion probably the one guy most people rooted for when vs Jon jones and thats literally because of his persona

    • @alhfgsp
      @alhfgsp 7 месяцев назад +1

      Then you don't know DC as well as you think you do. He's known as a bright guy.

  • @imskitz7377
    @imskitz7377 9 месяцев назад +728

    In addition, a LOT of mma fights end in submissions where the fighter taps before being seriously injured.

    • @RD-2709
      @RD-2709 9 месяцев назад +9

      ​@@iaqhyou edited your comment and still managed to spell "ratio" wrong that's crazy

    • @YatoxHiyori2015
      @YatoxHiyori2015 9 месяцев назад +9

      ​@@RD-2709lol, he deleted it😂

    • @23lnp
      @23lnp 8 месяцев назад

      So mma is a sport that condones the quitters way out by “ tapping out “

    • @RD-2709
      @RD-2709 8 месяцев назад +4

      @@23lnp it's a sport genius, wouldn't be a very good sport of all the competitors got seriously injured after every single fight 🤦

    • @23lnp
      @23lnp 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@RD-2709 well if the mma guys stopped trying to constantly rival boxers, i wouldnt have to explain why boxers are just a different breed of fighter seeing as the dangers of the sport are so much higher than that of mma.

  • @definitelynosebreather
    @definitelynosebreather 10 месяцев назад +1245

    True unless you have a ref like Green's last fight

    • @xConoooR1
      @xConoooR1 9 месяцев назад +7

      Stop crying lol. Jiri was early because he wasn’t fully sleeping and then when green gets put fully out, it’s a late stoppage🤣 pick one and shut up

    • @andrewoberg
      @andrewoberg 9 месяцев назад

      @@xConoooR1idiotic comment

    • @andrewoberg
      @andrewoberg 9 месяцев назад +2

      at least his head didn’t bounce off the canvas he should be fine, disgustingly late stoppage though

    • @drquack1217
      @drquack1217 9 месяцев назад

      @@xConoooR1how do you know he said anything about Jiri lol the green stoppage was late and you can’t change that perception so stfu😀

    • @joehogan8013
      @joehogan8013 9 месяцев назад +1

      still less damage than a boxer would take

  • @totoybrown0908
    @totoybrown0908 9 месяцев назад +141

    as a boxer at my teenage and early 20s, he’s right.. .i can’t forget those days when my body receives so much trauma in my muscles and my kidney sucks it all and i pee blood for the sport i once loved..

    • @mrsheabutter
      @mrsheabutter 9 месяцев назад +5

      So sorry. I wish we were warned of potential injuries and danger for the sports we love, that will be with us for the rest of our lives

    • @kakarotkills7
      @kakarotkills7 8 месяцев назад +2

      Pee blood???? Wow

    • @kakarotkills7
      @kakarotkills7 8 месяцев назад

      Nowadays??

    • @slamdunktiger
      @slamdunktiger 2 дня назад

      word, hope you're doing well friend. grappling > striking for longevity.

  • @floresluis1990
    @floresluis1990 10 месяцев назад +1775

    Boxers have died in the ring and some weren’t the same after a fight and weren’t able to return to the ring.

    • @timmythetalkingpotato
      @timmythetalkingpotato 9 месяцев назад +66

      There were MMA fighters who died too, just not in the UFC

    • @floresluis1990
      @floresluis1990 9 месяцев назад +50

      @@timmythetalkingpotato I figured, just never heard of any. Still DC is slightly right. MMA is brutal in its own right! Boxing is brutal in its own as well!

    • @RaphialLee
      @RaphialLee 9 месяцев назад +20

      Look at the numbers, bro. Boxing have been out for over 100s of years and includes the worst times. Boxing rules back then, yes, was more dangerous than Mma today, but today, Mma is more dangerous than Boxing today. You all always compare the life of boxers back to mma Fighters now but refused to compare the retired boxers now to retired mma fighters. Lmao, looking at Chuck and Ken Shamrock, Mma isnt very safe. And they haven't even fought long in mma compared to retired boxers too.

    • @discipleofkhorne9472
      @discipleofkhorne9472 9 месяцев назад +58

      ​@@RaphialLeeYou can compare retired boxers to MMA fighters and they don't stack up well, retired boxers often have some of the worst brain trauma of any fighters. Even Freddie Roach suffers from Parkinsons due to the brain trauma he suffered. Boxers constantly die in the ring. MMA has had 7 deaths in sanctioned bouts in its entire history, boxing has 13 deaths per year.
      Also the careers are "shorter" because they fight less often as they don't need to pad their record as much and losses in MMA mean a lot less than they do in boxing. Also grappling is not great on your joints and hips, and generally athleticism/explosiveness is somewhat more important in MMA than in boxing.

    • @fawazplayz7478
      @fawazplayz7478 9 месяцев назад +10

      @@floresluis1990boxing is like 99% more brutal I knocked out someone and he was done for he had tears rolling through his eyes and key kidney was messed up and his face and then he kept on getting knocked out over and over till my coach told me to stop

  • @JohnnyLaw3134
    @JohnnyLaw3134 9 месяцев назад +295

    He put forth a legitimate argument

  • @LambSauce330
    @LambSauce330 9 месяцев назад +158

    Single trauma vs repeated trauma
    IDC I love them both

    • @ejejdbejd
      @ejejdbejd 8 месяцев назад +2

      Both sports or both types of trauma?

    • @LambSauce330
      @LambSauce330 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@ejejdbejd 😂 both sports

    • @xfatoushe-6908
      @xfatoushe-6908 8 месяцев назад +2

      Mf said fuck it we ball 😈😂

  • @gabrielsaravia5388
    @gabrielsaravia5388 9 месяцев назад +496

    A man with logic

    • @Xavi_-ux9ts
      @Xavi_-ux9ts 9 месяцев назад +1

      Never thought about it in this perception

    • @TarnishedWretch7
      @TarnishedWretch7 9 месяцев назад +18

      @Astrophile2345 then you werent listening

    • @ManDrinkingMilk
      @ManDrinkingMilk 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@TarnishedWretch7It’s true, mma is way more dangerous, their is a reason why when somebody gets knockdown the referee intervenes

    • @Mrpicket
      @Mrpicket 9 месяцев назад +4

      ​@doggodripjosh.7323 they intervene bc that's apart of the sport

    • @Aquatic89
      @Aquatic89 9 месяцев назад

      @@ManDrinkingMilk
      That’s because that’s what should be done in any combat sport. Not because it’s more dangerous.

  • @bilogskii2216
    @bilogskii2216 9 месяцев назад +309

    And with that, power slap should not be allowed in the first place. Dana drop the ball on that one.

    • @astonprice-lockhart7261
      @astonprice-lockhart7261 9 месяцев назад +3

      Funny enough there are people who used to make so much fun of palm strikes and slapping techniques when in reality they can be just as damaging or more than a fist. Especially in the kind of force they produce in the body.

    • @grahamhill676
      @grahamhill676 9 месяцев назад +2

      ​@astonprice-lockhart7261 Yeah I mean if you don't break your wrist slapping someone.

    • @astonprice-lockhart7261
      @astonprice-lockhart7261 9 месяцев назад +3

      @grahamhill676 True, but just like there is technique in punching someone as properly as possible. There's technique in slapping or palm striking or any strike, grapple etc.

    • @mekhilefanis1442
      @mekhilefanis1442 9 месяцев назад

      Only idiots practice and Watch that sh** t

    • @HarmonyEdge
      @HarmonyEdge 9 месяцев назад +1

      Wait, so Sumo wrestlers are banned in the UFC? 😅

  • @moesisme2
    @moesisme2 9 месяцев назад +50

    I agree. Also with boxing gloves the damage is more internal than external.

    • @KHRONIC357MAG
      @KHRONIC357MAG 8 месяцев назад +1

      If mma had boxing gloves they would do more damage but one sport that is wrost than both is medieval combat

    • @moesisme2
      @moesisme2 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@KHRONIC357MAG if mma had boxing gloves it would look as brutal with allot less blood and visual injuries but the long term effect would rise. Sports like football and boxing causes more injuries to the brain because they are basically protecting visual injuries while intensify internal injuries

  • @kolowatttz5321
    @kolowatttz5321 9 месяцев назад +218

    Dc actually speaking the biggest facts

    • @akabdullah8422
      @akabdullah8422 9 месяцев назад +1

      😂😂😂 so what?

    • @naturalmessmessy3460
      @naturalmessmessy3460 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@akabdullah8422nothing MMA nerd

    • @tat0276
      @tat0276 9 месяцев назад +5

      @@akabdullah8422what’s ur follow up? Or did you just get mad that he’s right

    • @DmanDice
      @DmanDice 9 месяцев назад +4

      @@tat0276
      Keep in mind youre probably typing to a 12 year old.

    • @CompaIMR
      @CompaIMR Месяц назад

      ​@@DmanDice ofc

  • @sunilsooklall9429
    @sunilsooklall9429 9 месяцев назад +289

    Never heard such a beautiful explanation. I was 1 person who thought mma was more dangerous, now I completely change my mind. And coming from such a legend !

    • @TrySomeFentanyl
      @TrySomeFentanyl 9 месяцев назад +1

      Well then this should be easy

    • @chiefnkosi7705
      @chiefnkosi7705 9 месяцев назад +5

      Do you think a flying knee to the face is better than a straight back hand with gloves to the face? Or is a spinning back kick better than hook with 10 oz gloves to the side of your head?
      His argument is based on knockdown and count outs, but even he knows that damage happens even when you are on your feet. 5 minute rounds vs. 3 minute rounds means you get a chance to quit on the stool quicker. There are plenty of arguments for both sides

    • @kerzch672
      @kerzch672 9 месяцев назад

      @@chiefnkosi7705 most of the medical experts believe that the quantity of punches to your head is more of a risk factor than the power of those punches. In terms of CTE prevalence, MMA fighters are way behind boxers and NFL players.
      Sure, you are far more likely to suffer an injury in the octagon, but after you retire you're also far more likely to live the rest of your life without forgetting your kids names or hallucinating about being abducted by aliens.

    • @serkankoldere
      @serkankoldere 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@chiefnkosi7705There aren't "plenty of arguments for both sides" you're just ignorant. In MMA you can win via submissions, leg kicks and lay and pray decisions, all three of which deal no damage to the brain. In boxing you're mostly looking for the knockout. It's pretty obvious that boxing is more damaging to the brain.

    • @lilshotsfiredaroundtheworld
      @lilshotsfiredaroundtheworld 9 месяцев назад +17

      ​@@chiefnkosi7705that's not an argument. There are way way more deaths in boxing than in MMA per year, that should be argument enough that boxing is more dangerous. A knee to the face or a spinning back kick to the face may look dangerous (and is) it'll most likely result in a flush ko if u hit ur opponent right, ending the fight. It's dangerous, but completely not as dangerous as repeated blows to the head over and over again, for 30 minutes to an hour straight. If that was the case, then glory kickboxing or Muay Thai would have more deaths than boxing does, but they don't

  • @falconking9091
    @falconking9091 8 месяцев назад +4

    The more rounds in boxing, the more dangerous it is.

  • @Jinz3
    @Jinz3 9 месяцев назад +42

    People forget how hard boxers hit w bigger gloves....

    • @Laditt
      @Laditt 9 месяцев назад +4

      And with smaller gloves too and also elbows are legit like knifes and shins are not fun and when you can punch faster than normally those blows definitely hurt more

    • @brocksimmons345
      @brocksimmons345 9 месяцев назад

      Getting hit with smaller gloves is more painful though. Bigger gloves protect the hands but the punches are also cushioned

    • @John-fn7yt
      @John-fn7yt 9 месяцев назад

      @@brocksimmons345It’s more painful but less impact. In boxing you’re basically punching with padded dumbells. Basic physics. Getting hit with a motorbike gonna do less damage than a truck.

  • @crazyk369
    @crazyk369 9 месяцев назад +154

    The fact that there's way more rounds in boxing is proof, but MMA is short bursts of brutality

    • @skindred1888
      @skindred1888 9 месяцев назад

      The proof is the cte scans. Sure there's more rounds and shorter rounds to allow a boxer to get their wits about them a bit in the corner, however there's a lot more stop and starts in boxing due to clinches and not really being able to do anything.
      The ref stops the fight in MMA...the ref in boxing have to start the fight

    • @Braggdad212
      @Braggdad212 9 месяцев назад +3

      It’s overall pretty close though as mma has longer rounds. Boxing still lasts longer on average per bout. The big reason is glove type and target opportunities. Boxing can only go to head or body. MMA you can win with never throwing a single punch or kick. I think it’s that availability of target choices to play into making mma safer in general

    • @megaranger6106
      @megaranger6106 9 месяцев назад

      Mma has longer rounds but I still agree with it having more short bursts of brutality

    • @NjoyMoney
      @NjoyMoney 9 месяцев назад

      @@megaranger6106 What boxing are you watching buddy? They hit each other like 5 times per round

    • @jrjunior8468
      @jrjunior8468 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​@wesleylong3279 it's not really close at their best. 5minutes for 5 rounds. - Mma
      12 rounds for 3 minutes. - Boxing
      Mma total of 25 minutes
      Boxing of 36 minutes
      That's an 11 minute different of longer fighting and more stamina draining.
      On average
      Mma - 3rounds 5 minutes = 15 minutes
      Boxing - it really depends but it's 10 or less.
      Usually goes up to 5 - 10
      So that would be 15, 18, 21, 24, 27, and 30
      So on average, depending on when it ends it can wither be the same or just be that much longer

  • @harlovan7837
    @harlovan7837 4 дня назад

    Man makes a strong argument.

  • @davidespadin78
    @davidespadin78 9 месяцев назад +33

    The way he explained made total sense to me and i havent done any boxing or mma. I dont follow either sports either

    • @oneo3Pointfive
      @oneo3Pointfive 9 месяцев назад

      How did you get to this video than?

    • @daghetto101
      @daghetto101 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@oneo3PointfiveAlgorithm. Joe Rogan’s Podcast are everywhere from Science, Animals, Woman and MMA.

  • @prokaneygaming6590
    @prokaneygaming6590 9 месяцев назад +90

    He’s right , it’s the repeated concussion that hurts the brain

  • @sirRickyG44
    @sirRickyG44 9 месяцев назад +5

    Boxers have CRAZY stamina. Respect to MMA fighters though. But boxers 👏

  • @RainDrop216
    @RainDrop216 9 месяцев назад +15

    Coming from the double champ. Im not gonna argue with him. Shoutout to DC

  • @AlexG-tp2ik
    @AlexG-tp2ik 9 месяцев назад +52

    Absolutely right. It's the accumulation of punishment that leads to tragedies in the ring.

  • @mainepeart8539
    @mainepeart8539 9 месяцев назад +6

    He’s got a really valid point

  • @kevinbarrera2946
    @kevinbarrera2946 9 месяцев назад +78

    The fucking headaches from boxing are no joke

  • @YRG_JR
    @YRG_JR 9 месяцев назад +21

    This is why DC is the man.

  • @waywaywaytoostrong6322
    @waywaywaytoostrong6322 9 месяцев назад +3

    It’s absolutely true, and boxing you mostly get hit on the head so concussions way more frequent whereas mma you get hit on the body and choked

  • @josh1212121
    @josh1212121 10 месяцев назад +108

    100% true. People who've never fought or even just casually trained in either sport are so misinformed to think that MMA is more dangerous than boxing.

    • @novarupture4582
      @novarupture4582 9 месяцев назад +11

      Well it's definitely arguable. The only real danger in boxing is the brain damage, and statistics have shown about 20% of boxers end up with CTE. It's kinda hard to just outright say that's more dangerous than a sport that has potential for the exact same levels of brain damage, plus about 10x more physical injuries. In all reality they have the same levels of danger, it all just depends on the context of the fights, cause I've seen plenty of mma dudes take 5+ knockdowns without the 10 count and are taking strikes during recovery on the ground, same shit as boxing.

    • @KKOPPONG
      @KKOPPONG 9 месяцев назад +16

      Boxing LOOKS safer. MMA has scary looking KO’s. Any head contact is dangerous, consistent taps to the head is progressive:

    • @KKOPPONG
      @KKOPPONG 9 месяцев назад +22

      ⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@novarupture4582no disrespect to you man but it’s not arguable at all dawg. 1stly MMA is a shorter fight with less head contact. A boxing match is almost double the length of an MMA fight. 2ndly boxing has over the waist contact and a majority of that is aimed directly at the head in MMA they have other parts to hit. 3rdly MMA is wrestling and submissions so you can lose a fight without any head contact. 4th MMA gloves are much smaller than boxing gloves so the surface area a boxing glove hits is smaller than the space an MMA glove can hit. Bodily injuries are easily recoverable and have less long term impact, there is no recovery to the head trauma boxing does. Every year professional boxers die in the ring at an average of 13 a year, MMA is less than 3 a year.

    • @Creaations
      @Creaations 9 месяцев назад +7

      It's safer because it's MADE that way. MMA is more dangerous overall. Imagine if it had the same rule set as boxing. "OH, you got elbowed and knocked down? Well get the fuck up, the match is not over." It's legit not that hard to understand that rules make it safer, not the style in itself.
      Quick edit note: To clarify, boxing is no less dangerous than MMA. It is a combat sport, and they all have their price to pay in one way or another.

    • @diegomanrique5443
      @diegomanrique5443 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@KKOPPONG Facts

  • @creatingaracquet9884
    @creatingaracquet9884 9 месяцев назад +9

    Never thought about it that way but he is absolutely right about that.

  • @tongshingwa4607
    @tongshingwa4607 9 месяцев назад +23

    True, that is why more money in boxing than MMA💰💰💰

    • @alhfgsp
      @alhfgsp 7 месяцев назад +1

      That's been changing lately.

  • @JK-zu8gm
    @JK-zu8gm 9 месяцев назад +28

    Started out in muay thai and did dutch kickboxing for a few years, then switched over to boxing completely. The amount of concussive damage is significantly worse and the toll it takes is actually heavier altogether.

  • @iberrypa
    @iberrypa 9 месяцев назад +16

    I wish they had a mercy rule in boxing and announced points after each round. Like 3 knockdown or a certain number of points up and it's over. Announcing points might also entice more action from the losing fighter and get rid of the corrupt robbery decisions

    • @GUWWT
      @GUWWT 9 месяцев назад +1

      They tried this

  • @WatchfulListener
    @WatchfulListener 9 месяцев назад +1

    A wound that keeps getting cut won't heal.

  • @frankkitajima4339
    @frankkitajima4339 9 месяцев назад +11

    I agree, more people have died in boxing than MMA, not only has boxing been around longer but the punishment adds up 10 times more when u repeatedly get hit with gloves on bug

  • @nighthawk2k337
    @nighthawk2k337 9 месяцев назад +6

    Joe can’t argue with that when it’s coming from a former MMA fighter

    • @terrys7666
      @terrys7666 6 месяцев назад

      Joe literally said that like 10 years ago on ESPN arguing with some boxing expert

  • @anti-them4383
    @anti-them4383 3 месяца назад

    All those head kicks in boxing is what makes it more dangerous.

  • @TheBoy228
    @TheBoy228 9 месяцев назад +6

    Makes sense to why older boxers or in worse shape than older MMA fighters

  • @mexagodtvg8937
    @mexagodtvg8937 8 месяцев назад +21

    He explained that so well that MMA fans don’t even know how to respond to dat

    • @rodericksasu6976
      @rodericksasu6976 8 месяцев назад +1

      Because we all agree that it is more dangerous. I don't think it is point to be proud of. Lol.

    • @fawazplayz7478
      @fawazplayz7478 8 месяцев назад

      @@rodericksasu6976nuh uh mma fans rlly be trying but they failing

    • @hnys7976
      @hnys7976 8 месяцев назад

      He’s an MMA fighter too one of the best of all time.

    • @xylonbanda
      @xylonbanda 8 месяцев назад +2

      We all know this tho, and that's why I like MMA more than boxing. Being a more dangerous sport isn't an achievement to be proud of.

    • @naif8188
      @naif8188 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@xylonbandaits an acheivement to be proud of cause it takes more guts

  • @24rules187
    @24rules187 9 месяцев назад +9

    I can definitely understand his argument, as someone who watches both i can confirm he makes a valid point

  • @giorgoslolos9132
    @giorgoslolos9132 9 месяцев назад +7

    Mario Yamasaki:And i took it personally

  • @YannickBohbot-Dridi
    @YannickBohbot-Dridi 9 месяцев назад +1

    he wasn't talking about which one was more effective, its about how the sport is set up...

  • @imaginova88
    @imaginova88 10 месяцев назад +61

    Unless you get Mario Yamasaki

  • @roisvel4438
    @roisvel4438 9 месяцев назад +5

    Also the difference between gym etiquette is not what you would expect, in boxing they spar HARD every day. Basically having fights every single day. In MMA gyms there’s more of a more aware culture where light sparring is more common and you only go hard on certain days.

    • @mikko3
      @mikko3 2 месяца назад

      And in mma you spend alot of your training on ground game

  • @bathiyaiddamalgoda3238
    @bathiyaiddamalgoda3238 8 месяцев назад +1

    I think DC explained very well to the guys who shouts all the time that telling boxing is not dangerous.

  • @imanualmahida8278
    @imanualmahida8278 9 месяцев назад +4

    His answer convince me. I wish I had this conviction in my answers. 😢

  • @xhantizamahalamaseyimane5730
    @xhantizamahalamaseyimane5730 10 месяцев назад +45

    Boxers die in fights all the time I haven't heard an MMA fighter dying from a fight

    • @Kamillius
      @Kamillius 10 месяцев назад +17

      There have been 26 deaths in MMA as far as I know.One of them is Sam Vasquez who got a seizure after getting ko'ed and another is Booto Guylain who was dead after a head kick but most fatalities are caused by weight draining and collapsing after fights. They didn't occur in UFC or ONE FC so they didn't get much media coverage

    • @ItsAme7143
      @ItsAme7143 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@Kamilliusit's actually pretty impressive that only 23 people have died in mma, it's gotta be like 2 or 3 hundred deaths in boxing by now lmao I think the average is like 10-20 per year

    • @mx3x3m
      @mx3x3m 9 месяцев назад +5

      but i don’t think ppl are getting their skill cracked and knees blown out in boxing , long term boxing fs but short term i think y can get hurt way worse in mma.

    • @ItsAme7143
      @ItsAme7143 9 месяцев назад

      @@mx3x3m that's kind of a perfect take on it

    • @omarijohnson2318
      @omarijohnson2318 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@mx3x3mprobably should look up the statistics first before you comment lol

  • @samstyler8604
    @samstyler8604 7 месяцев назад +1

    This is correct, it's a mixture of reasons, an often overlooked one is that boxing has very limited striking surfaces, no leg kicks, no knees to the body from a clinch, no throws or trips or submissions... Most shots are thrown to the head, it's the prime target and takes the brunt of all the trauma. Also boxing gloves are so padded out you are able to punch incredibly hard without as much risk of breaking your hand, all the padding also makes cuts less lieky so the bout is less lieky to be stopped for bad cuts that would happen with bare knuckles or much thinner gloves.
    Bare knuckle boxing is statistically safer than boxing due to the fact fights are stopped more often for bleeding stopping the guy just getting his brain constantly rattled also fighters have to pick their shots and how hard they throw them to which targets.... You're a lot more careful looking for that knockout blow when hitting a couple of inches too high will result in you shattering your bare/only wrapped hand on your opponents skull.

  • @paulmaksimovic9235
    @paulmaksimovic9235 10 месяцев назад +15

    Completely agree. Its the accumulation of the punches that do the job

  • @zezeti2246
    @zezeti2246 9 месяцев назад +5

    100% on point,in MMA once you're down once you're done,in boxing you keep getting up until you dont😂

  • @dylantorres-brown3718
    @dylantorres-brown3718 9 месяцев назад +1

    "And i took this personally"
    -Herb Dean

  • @reygunner1644
    @reygunner1644 9 месяцев назад +8

    The gloves cause more concussions as well.

  • @A_Sleap
    @A_Sleap 9 месяцев назад +4

    That's a true perspective

  • @KingNez89
    @KingNez89 7 месяцев назад

    One of the best, talking about the sport I did for 13 years...from ages 5 to 18 I boxed.....you truly have to be a different breed to step in that square

  • @HoveKB
    @HoveKB 9 месяцев назад +46

    Not only that, boxing gloves are heavier and regardless if you think they are “softer” you’re being hit with an additional 4-8oz over the course of 12 rounds, that all matters. Length of fights, damage over time, and continuing to fight while concussed.

    • @fuzzymuppet1990
      @fuzzymuppet1990 9 месяцев назад +2

      I agree , also theres about 6oz of sweat in the big gloves too !

    • @masscrossout
      @masscrossout 9 месяцев назад +2

      Its also easier to parry, evade or block them.
      Btw incase you guys missed physics in school, the power will spread across much bigger area in boxing gloves compared to much smaller mma gloves.
      How about elbow to the head ? Or a knee?

    • @virgilyoung9584
      @virgilyoung9584 9 месяцев назад

      Those pads are only to protect the skin on your face. But, than same pad actually amplyfies the impact of the punch.

    • @NYARNAV
      @NYARNAV 9 месяцев назад

      Gloves only makes your fist safer from the punches you make and it doesn't makes your enemy safer from your punches😂

    • @shquankinket8068
      @shquankinket8068 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@masscrossoutgetting hit by a truck is much worse than a motorcycle. It’s a similar thing here. You don’t know how blunt force trauma works

  • @Casandii
    @Casandii 9 месяцев назад +8

    He’s right if we’re thinking about head trauma, would you rather you get head kicked one time boom boom done or would you rather get knocked out come back on a eight count and if it wasn’t a lucky shot get dominated throughout the round probably get hit a few more times in the head before they call it or you get knocked out cold he’s right

  • @HandsomeMadMax
    @HandsomeMadMax 23 дня назад +1

    So true. Even tough I got my worst injury in MMA (busted knee), I have not been concussed in MMA remotely as often as in boxing and I have to add that I have an iron chin, never even got knocked down. But at night I just got dizzy so many times. Concussion after concussion. You often dont even think about it, just going about your day with a mild concussion. I can see why many boxers develop serious brain issues later in life. Even the small punches that you eat easily for breakfast add up.

  • @EjazFahad2008
    @EjazFahad2008 9 месяцев назад +10

    People arguing with a man who's a former UFC world champion while they've never punched anyone in their life except the air. It's crazy!

    • @brightyt7498
      @brightyt7498 9 месяцев назад +1

      Looking for this comment 😅

  • @АдамІванко
    @АдамІванко 9 месяцев назад +4

    Every year around the world 4 boxers dies, every year! Which is equivalent of all death in MMA history.

  • @jayye9051
    @jayye9051 8 месяцев назад +1

    Damn talk about calling it straight down the middle fair play DC

  • @DonatelloSilvio
    @DonatelloSilvio 9 месяцев назад +7

    He’s absolutely right about that

  • @b33mer79
    @b33mer79 9 месяцев назад +62

    Not to mention 12 rounds of pure headshots

    • @Nationalistic_Swede
      @Nationalistic_Swede 9 месяцев назад +5

      12 rounds of backshots too

    • @liam_xoxoxo4504
      @liam_xoxoxo4504 9 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@Nationalistic_Swedeuhh

    • @themastermind5638
      @themastermind5638 9 месяцев назад

      Not only headshots, body shots too. There's more body shot KOs in boxing then there are in MMA.

    • @NjoyMoney
      @NjoyMoney 9 месяцев назад

      MMA has longer rounds and having more rounds means more time to recover.

    • @Khoobus
      @Khoobus 9 месяцев назад

      Body shots, liver shots and even more

  • @sarvanuchoudhury155
    @sarvanuchoudhury155 9 месяцев назад +1

    Boxing has killed so many in the ring, so many had to end their careers due to an injury.... It's arguably one of the most dangerous sport out there

  • @WhoThisMonkey
    @WhoThisMonkey 10 месяцев назад +5

    The secret is to train to never fight.
    Best of both worlds.

    • @TheTMschannel
      @TheTMschannel 10 месяцев назад +1

      Can't really compete in combat sports without fighting my guy

    • @WhoThisMonkey
      @WhoThisMonkey 10 месяцев назад

      @@TheTMschannel
      You don't need to compete, just be competent enough to not get in fights.
      If you are planning to just live an average life, that's all you need.
      Thats the other secret, don't live near other people.

    • @TheTMschannel
      @TheTMschannel 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@WhoThisMonkey Yeah but this video is specifically about competing, so the "secret" can't be to not fight.
      My point: your comment is completely irrelevant to the topic at hand. Unless you think that people shouldn't compete in combat sports.

  • @Lethos_94
    @Lethos_94 9 месяцев назад +5

    Alot of people don't understand that being more physical doesn't mean it's more dangerous lol

  • @dogetmk2170
    @dogetmk2170 9 месяцев назад +1

    Very well explained, DC. This changed my perspective.

  • @kenshin1644
    @kenshin1644 9 месяцев назад +7

    He is 100% right

  • @Cesar1492Enjoyer
    @Cesar1492Enjoyer 9 месяцев назад +6

    I’d say MMA is more painful but boxing is more dangerous in the long run

  • @nooffence2769
    @nooffence2769 8 месяцев назад +1

    Old School UFC players : huhhh, wanna try it my way?

    • @terrys7666
      @terrys7666 5 месяцев назад

      Yeah them boy's are a different UFC breed. Their still waddling around with the ability to talk shit. By the time boxers hit 60 they can barely talk and move

  • @DatwayJD
    @DatwayJD 9 месяцев назад +4

    This is coming from a ufc champion

  • @chaytonhotah1544
    @chaytonhotah1544 10 месяцев назад +4

    As a boxer myself who’s been fighting at an amateur level for 4 years I have to say I disagree. I’ve had torn both of my biceps tendons, had broken my ribs twice, and have had numerous concussions (never been knocked out before) during my fights. That’s just from boxing. Imagine competing in MMA with kicking, knees, elbows and on the ground? I have so much respect for MMA fighters for that reason.

    • @ItsAme7143
      @ItsAme7143 9 месяцев назад +2

      I've boxed longer (barely) and I completely agree with this post bc I've done the research before and there's been less than 30 deaths in total in mma.... Idk if you've ever looked up how many people have died in the boxing ring but even when you take into consideration boxing being around longer and do the average per year, boxing doubles it so you can't let your assumptions blind you with bias. Mma might be scarier to you but that doesn't make it more dangerous 🤷boxing averages about 10 deaths a year lmao it's not something to brag about but in my opinion saying mma is more dangerous just bc it sounds more dangerous is kinda goofy

    • @chaytonhotah1544
      @chaytonhotah1544 9 месяцев назад +2

      Well, well, well, looks like both boxing and MMA are in quite the knockout competition when it comes to fatalities and injuries. While boxing may have a longer history with a higher overall number of deaths, MMA seems to be giving it a run for its money with a lower total death count. But hold on tight, because when we shift our focus to sustained injuries, MMA takes the spotlight with higher numbers compared to boxing. That’s all I’m saying.

    • @ItsAme7143
      @ItsAme7143 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@chaytonhotah1544 in terms of injuries? Yea you're right, in terms of fatalities I already explained that the average deaths PER YEAR (that means it takes into account that boxing has been around longer) almost doubles that of mma, so in terms of fatalities no you're absolutely incorrect mma isn't catching up to boxing, gotta do the research if you're gonna say shit like this🤷

    • @chaytonhotah1544
      @chaytonhotah1544 9 месяцев назад +1

      Say shit like what? Read the original comment: I never said MMA had more fatalities in the first place, my opinion is sorely based on injuries. 😄

    • @Chaosity1
      @Chaosity1 9 месяцев назад +3

      A bunch of amateurs who think they are the experts 🤣 boxing has more deaths, MMA has more injuries. Period

  • @jackthewinter5066
    @jackthewinter5066 8 месяцев назад +2

    Actually there are some researches based on these explanations and usually MMA fighters have less injuries and less post-career damage than boxers
    So DC has some good points

  • @jasonkowens6820
    @jasonkowens6820 9 месяцев назад +3

    Said no one ever except MMA fighters

    • @Wikellclothing
      @Wikellclothing 9 месяцев назад +1

      ?

    • @naknampucha5236
      @naknampucha5236 9 месяцев назад +1

      lmao does MMA even have death count on their sport? Cause rarely I hear fighters dies on the octagon,. but on boxing,. it's a common history.

  • @yasarak3115
    @yasarak3115 9 месяцев назад +4

    I'd say mma is worse for your body, but boxing is DEFINITELY worse for your brain

    • @stevelumumbashabazzz5087
      @stevelumumbashabazzz5087 9 месяцев назад +1

      The brain is the most important organ of the body. Once your brain is affected. The whole body will follow.

    • @zulfimoh5775
      @zulfimoh5775 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@stevelumumbashabazzz5087 you right about that one

  • @michelleogrady6709
    @michelleogrady6709 8 месяцев назад

    Bro waited his whole life to say..

  • @roland0mota
    @roland0mota 9 месяцев назад +1

    The size of the gloves makes the difference too... Boxing's large gloves in a study was shown to cause way more brain damage than MMA's smaller gloves

  • @randy521
    @randy521 9 месяцев назад +1

    That's the drama of boxing, the hearts of men.

  • @prxtn1095
    @prxtn1095 9 месяцев назад

    The “ and that’s exactly why I love boxing “ got me rolling 😂😂😂😂

  • @tomaszkozlowski5315
    @tomaszkozlowski5315 9 месяцев назад

    Fight is a Fight
    Who's best is a winner
    Never disrespect your opponents

  • @gainsongainz1807
    @gainsongainz1807 9 месяцев назад

    He's very smart and talks coherent for someone who fought at heavyweight, impressing

  • @davedavis9069
    @davedavis9069 3 месяца назад +1

    Shout out to the dudes that fight in hockey they can be brutal, no weight class, bare knuckle and they might have 2 or 3 fights a week sometimes twice a game

  • @billcutting3184
    @billcutting3184 9 месяцев назад +1

    He is right changed my mind completely on this matter.

  • @iamgaijin88
    @iamgaijin88 9 месяцев назад

    in some cases there are boxers who died after the match especially after a brutal knockout.

  • @numa2k147
    @numa2k147 8 месяцев назад

    The years of sparring too. That kills you slowly

  • @bagelz3359
    @bagelz3359 9 месяцев назад +1

    Never heard someone explain this so well.

  • @s.f.f.f.t11
    @s.f.f.f.t11 8 месяцев назад +1

    Very true. Repeated trauma is MUCH worse than a singular burst of it.

  • @biggiechungus1397
    @biggiechungus1397 9 месяцев назад +4

    Always makes me happy to see someone make Rogan go quiet. He wasnt gonna argue there

  • @frothycarapace969
    @frothycarapace969 6 месяцев назад

    He has a very valid point

  • @jaylenterrell5640
    @jaylenterrell5640 9 месяцев назад

    That's a fair argument

  • @rocketeer101
    @rocketeer101 9 месяцев назад +1

    Very good argument. I was like "Whaaat?!" then "Oooh..."

  • @Thor-Orion
    @Thor-Orion 6 месяцев назад

    It use to be, they stop fights pretty early in boxing now. Back in the day ref’s wouldn’t stop the fight until you were knocked the fuck out.

  • @Wolverine1987
    @Wolverine1987 8 месяцев назад

    Bare knuckle fighting has entered the chat