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I think the extreme amount of personal coverage ( media) of celebrities is unique to Korea. I don't see it elsewhere as this prevalent. You just can't get this much info on a person outside of korea. Some people get so emotionally involved in their personal lives this way that they feel like they truly know these celebrities, should have intimate access to them, and can force personal time with them. Even scripted videos with celebs are viewed as true real feelings of the performers. It really all comes down to money for entertainment businesses. Obsessed people buy all merch made, go to all concerts and appearances, buy more copies of albums, songs. Why slow/stop the money train to see who they've injured or killed when it's more profitable to move on. Sick.
@foggylegg6362 Absolutely. The sad thing is that the catered to audience falls for this money making gimmicks to the point of unhinged obsession. It's psychotic, not to mention psychologically damaging for both the celeb and the fans. The companies should be sued for not taking necessary precautions and more to protect their artists. This level of obsession is highly concerning. What the flip has the world come to? Common sense has become a total commodity and a rarity.
It's all because of corruption. I believe that the owners and shareholders of entertainment companies need sasaengs and stalkers. Creating interest and attention around the artist is additional publicity for promotion without the company having to invest any money. Therefore, show business companies, using corruption, do not allow the authorities to fully cope with this shameful phenomenon.
getting stalked for 20 years, with that pressure how much would his mental health decline? and his social life would be in crumble.. he can't even make normal friends with all these sasaeng fans, crazy af
The lax and almost non-existent laws against sasaengs and stalkers in korea is so wild. Jpop idols get restraints and stalkers arrested so easily in comparison. When will K-government actually implement protective laws into one of their biggest industries and the people working in it?
It's baffling.. 🤦🏻♀️ in one of our news video we talked about recent stalking incident of a Kpop Idol and actress, the punishment is surprisingly light.. here's the link, if you'd like more details to the story: ruclips.net/video/HgoNQ6MjCW0/видео.html SK has anti stalking law, but not sure why it seems like we haven't seen significant punishment applied.
I have no idea. But it would be nice if saesang activity were prohibited. One fact becomes clear, saesangs are officially categorized as Yanderes and simps.
lucas from nct was put on hiatus by sm for years bc he called out a saesang who then made up fake rumors about him. he recently had a documentary come out and its like the life in him has been sucked out. everything that made him lucas - his confidence, his loud exclamations, his positive attitude - all gone. and its all bc he wanted to protect himself and his members. clearly after so many years sm is still failing us. this is not a price they should have to pay for their careers.
He isn't one of the OG visual shock. He IS the visual shock. When people say " sm's face," they mean "jaejoong's face." I swear crazy fans were so bold back then that they kept on entering the houses or dormitories of idols as if they were the ones living there and not the idols.
Wth the police responding with “it’s natural for fans to want to see their idol” is crazy, it’s so sad for idols because they have to endure a long period of harassment from Sasaengs and only then will the public view their case as ‘severe ‘ and talk about it and also involve police action, it’s so crazy how if they tell their stalker’s to back off they’re seen as ‘rude’ or ‘ungrateful’ of their fans. The K-pop industry in itself is crazy because for other celebrities around the world they have the concept of being ‘fans’ ofc there are some ‘crazy fans’ but the crazy fans term is South Korea is on another level , while in other parts of the world people are ‘fans’ of the works put out by celebrities in Korea fans view their celebrities especially idols as something they own and are ‘entitled’ to simply because they purchase their albums,tickets and support them. This whole concept is so disturbing the entitlement that this fans have is crazy the whole point of these idols are to produce something with their hard work and we are fans of their products not the producers alone, this very concept gets blown away in the K-pop fandom , fans mistake supporting their idols by being fans for their works for simply supporting them because they are fans of the ‘idol ‘ not the work they put out hence comes the understanding of ‘what you are right now is because of your fans’ which ofc is true but in this case not only does the hard work of the idols goes unnoticed but they are reduced to nothing but ‘property of fans’ A normal person would purchase an album because they are a ‘fan of the groups works’ this is lost in the transaction process of k-fans who think they’re ‘buying their idols ‘ rather than the product put out Not only are the fans crazy but also are the companies for putting out some very boyfriend/girlfriend suggestive contents knowing that these will attract not only normal fans but also garner unwanted attention. I believe that the existence of sasaengs are also very much part of the company’s fault for not having enough restraints against such situations which prompt the sasaengs to think it’s that easy to get close to their idols which leaves an example to upcoming sasaengs. What sasaengs want won’t be considered ‘love’ or ‘mutual feelings’ from their idols but instead they see the idols as something they are entitled to have and are simply an object which is particularly reserved for them. I think there should be a deep dive of Sasaeng culture because I think not only are these fans obsessed or crazy I think it also shows some underlying mental disorders. Ofc it’s not only Korean fans there are some other nationalities sasaeng, not all Korean fans but it’s mostly them
Appreciate you sharing your thoughts! yess ain’t it crazy how the police just brushed off his report like that 🤦🏻♀️ and you’re right, the entitlement is crazy.. but part of it.. this industry actually grooms sasaengs at least when you are a more well known celebrity you have more means such as JJ who keeps moving house, buying new cars etc we read stories of when sasaengs targeted nugu groups and that’s actually sad, cause one of the manager said it’s a dilemma since they (the sasaengs) are the ones who spends the most.. and nugu groups can’t really refuse much cause they still not that “celebrity enough” and it can cause bad reputation it’s literally between a rock and a hard place 🤦🏻♀️
The police are right people love to meet their idols but showing up on the idol’s doorstep unknowingly is totally not natural and acceptable behavior😡 that is stalking
During his TVXQ days, he often lost friends bcs he lost contact with them due to keep changing his number. Sasaengs used to duplicated his number and stalked via clone phone. Those days were beyond our imaginations.
This is CRAZY 😭 This one was of the stories I heard about most when I first got into kpop. Imagine people being so crazy to break into your house, expose your private life, get your phone number,etc. South Korea really needs to make laws to protect them from these insane people.
That really doesn't make sense, does it???? If they are marketed as bf/gf, why are the(saesangs) stalking instead of just seeing the idols at fan-meets???? This behavior is psychopathic, nothing to do with the marketing
Nah not really. There are plenty normal ppl out there too. These crazy ppl choose to become crazy by themself. Other ex: there are also crazy sports fans but the athlete never promote/marketing themself as smthg or encourage them to act like that right? So who is the problem? - the fans. They should know better not to cross the line.
He even once updated in Fromm asking fans to be respectful and not purposely book seats next to him in airplanes because he said it;s one of the only place he can have a rest and a break from public eye but they keep booking seats next to him on flights.
Do you know of he has his own plane like a private jet? It’s so sad that true fans can‘t really do anything. He always says how grateful he is about true fans etc. about the things they do for him and that they love him. But this doesn‘t help anything about the crazy fans, does it? Imean politics etc. don‘t Even try to change anything for the security of idols. And real fans are probably not allowed to hunt does crazy fans down and go against them with legal action or even do something about crazy fans on themselves. I mean something like hunting them down and scare the shit out of them but without harm. Talking to JJ for example in person on a private basis isn‘t possible because his trust to the world must be damaged a lot. He will always meet fans on a concert or meet and greets or in videos, these are non private occasions to talk to him, he will stay professional and don‘t get me wrong here please, it’s important for him to stay professional and don‘t get in private contact with fans. But what I thinking of os simply telling him in private real fans will never be like crazy fans and he can contact any time he want real fans to talk to them every time he is scared or anything. This would maybe help him mentally or even he could call fans, who live close by to ask them if they could help with the police, then he calls the Police says that is he in danger and there Are Even other persons who try to help. But I understand that he also does want to be out of public in certain times. It’s just sad that we can‘t like really help him with big results like crazy fans stopping from their actions.
@@miasma_girl Unrelated, but when you talked about private jets I remembered how Taylor Swift is receiving major backlash right now for releasing so much carbon emission from her private jets. It's almost insane-- because everyone understands she can never use public transport safely anyway, yet they still criticize her for it instead of looking at wasteful billionaires instead. With western artists, they never talk about sasaengs when they clearly exist everywhere. My heart goes out for jaejoong who wasn't as fortunate as taylor swift is to afford his own safety, privacy, and mental health through a little private transport even just for a short while of rest and reprieve. His mental fortitude is unwavering, strong and admirable. I hope he's doing ok
They are likely the same fans who get mad when their favourite idols gets married or even dates... Invasive for no reason. The laws around stalking and even endangering someone's life should be reconsidered, of course these laws have to change but it seems that nothing will be done...
Yes.. the ones who sent protest trucks and demanded apology 🤦♀️ There's recent case if you know Karina from AESPA, her dating news came out, then she posted letter of apology, but then the fans get angrier and sent protest truck🤦♀️ if you wanna see the detail, can check out the video here ruclips.net/video/oUPMVd7JiQw/видео.html
oh i have heard about that, i love how international fans are more chill and less possessive... but fans will never understand.. kpop idols are humans too and not robots.. :/@@KPOPNook
if you see in one of our news vid, this one sasaeng is 59 years old... and sentenced due to stalking APINK's EUNJI for 3 years and sadly.. the sentence is very light: you can watch the news here if you'd like: ruclips.net/video/HgoNQ6MjCW0/видео.html The other day, we saw an article of another older sasaeng stalking a 15 yrs trot idol.. Some creeps knows no age really...
It's time that laws are strengthened for invasion of privacy, selling information, harmful acts, towards celebrities. Celebrities should be able to get restraining orders against these people and jail time should be mandatory.
My goodness let’s forget about them being in the public but even in their own house they’re being stalked 🤦🏻♀️ That’s so freaking creepy. You can’t even relax properly, overthinking about saesangs from somewhere might be watching or recording you.
I remember when he said in naver now with a smiling face that he is at ease that he didn't have any encounter with sasaengs for the past years, but oh boy he was wrong. I wish korean law will firmly handle sasaengs not only them but also the k-netz cyber bullying. It is horrible and terrifying.
yes.. 😭 hope he sues them all with the evidences he has collected. ah.. cyber bullying is also one of the persisting problem..and we’ve seen lives lost because of it, it’s not funny 🥲
The crazy way in which he has been harassed is so upsetting. Like imagine you only get 2-5 hours of sleep cause your company treats you like a slave & you gotta worry about crazy ppl kissing you while you sleep or breaking into your house??? Absolute Insanity
I’m an American…I just don’t understand why there aren’t strict stalker laws in Korea. We have them here. I don’t understand why the obsession. I’m a fan of k-dramas and k-pop. I enjoy the actors and singer work, but that is as far as it goes for me. I think there is too much leeway for these delusional people. I feel so bad for the actors and singers. Fans do NOT have the right to dictate who someone dates or marries. They don’t have the right to break into their homes. Their government needs to understand that these actors and singers are an asset to their country and need to be protected at all costs.
it’s still a mystery.. and sasaengs mind worked differently. one of idol managers mentioned that even resort to using violence doesn’t work on the sasaengs. Any interaction.. is attention, regardless😭 there was sasaengs that even goes as far as slapping the idols just to get a reaction out of them, it’s heartbreaking, really..
Things like this happen all over the world in many countries… but there seems to be a difference in how the Kpop industry has built their business. The way that these agencies build the marketing of their idols through illusion of this unhealthy fantasy relationship is part of why things are so unhealthy and toxic…
good point, esp during early Kpop's Hallyu Wave, these idols are marketed as the Perfect-almost-non-humans-being (back then, they can't even openly say they are going to bathroom..), so fans really worship them. Plus, there was no regulation regarding stalking law so Sasaengs are even more wild. It's mindblowing though to see how far someone is willing to go just to get close to their idols..🤦🏼♀
South Korea makes tons of money off k-pop industry, yet k-pop idols don't have any substantial legal protection. Make it make sense?.. It's amazing that Jaejoong remains as nice, friendly and respectful as he always was. He endured so much. Truly a strong person. I'm glad he's taking legal actions. Watch him to make history again!
@@ELmayberry THISSS one of the idols from first Gen mention that Sasaengs doesn’t stop they just MOVE to another group. 🥲 He saw his previous sasaengs now following his junior 🤦🏻♀️
Being the OG Visual in kpop industry and he is still remain unbeatable for his visual its no wonder why all these saesang went wild and crazy. Even now with more strict and tight security protecting idols, there is still alot of saesangs who still go overboard.
Yes!! His always the OG Visual, even now when I watch him on Jaechingu i'm always amaze like.. How are you still sooo fine Jaejoong-ah! 😭❤️ and you're right, sasaengs are just a constant ongoing problem, they never goes away...
damn the fact that I discover him in 2014 and just fall in love , I thought TVXQ was a Japanese boyband but no they were Korean, I'm sad that these people make him a hard life like that ... I also thought that Taeyong get a ressemblance with him when he debuted I was shocked I thought they were relative, but no ! well I hope he will be okay and people will leave him alone.
This is incredibly disturbing 😰 I’m scared for him and all idols. I can’t understand how you become so obsessed that you have to stalk and invade your favorites idol’s privacy.
Honestly, whenever Jaejoong is being asked either by his parents or by his fans when he would get married, I think the answer lies within his experiences and past. Somewhere between SM's slave contract, the ongoing battles, the stalker incidents traumatizing him and the police doing nothing to protect him, saying how "they are your fans, you shouldn't file a report", I'm certain Jaejoong looked at himself in the mirror one day and wondered who would put up with a life like that to be with him. A life with zero privacy. Who would lower their walls and let go of something as precious as the notion of privacy to hold his hand, knowing a stalker is within the house, ready to take pictures and expose. Especially with what happened with Seunghan nowadays. When he launched Jae & Friends, wanting to make friends, I came to the conclusion that everyone who saw him back in the day never approached him because his idol persona being the cold and mysterious man broke the 4th wall into his real life and he was deemed unapproachable by peers and juniors, cold and distant. Jaejoong will forever remain in my heart as my ult idol, knowing that stalkers and companies alike single-handedly gave him the dream and then destroyed his life.
and the fact that this guy is still one of the sweetest celebrities out there?! .... it's beyond me, bro!! I think that on his place I'd get crazy... very closed off and stuff like that and it's a wonder Jaejoong is friendly to this very day and is still part of this industry that did him wrong for so long just proves that he's a great guy and never deserved any of the bs he went through
These are not fans. They are stalkers, terrorizing people. Korean laws need to label them and treat stalking as a serious crime with steep fines and some jail time. These stalkers have family with money and connections. Can pay people off for info. Hire the taxis. Get hotel keys as with 2pm. Airline tickets and travel. Maybe that's why the lack of prosecution. The families of these basically make the gdp and the laws there.
That kind of behavior is beyond disturbing! How terrible it must be to live with that. I got chills just listening to the story about the delivery person! God Bless this young man.
Is it possible that his previous company resent him Soo much that they sent someone to mess with him ? 😢 it’s crazy that the sassaeng “always know” private stuffs about him without insider info. 👀
Maybe someone in that company is accepting bribes from sasaengs to reveal his info? Maybe they also have access to a dedicated hacker who works for money. Or maybe a government worker who has access to his car number plates and addresses etc is a sasaeng.
they have anti-stalking law. But for some reasons, we never see real punishments for it. There's a case where a female celeb sue their stalker for stalking her for 3 years, and the punishment is surprisingly light... We dove deeper into this topic in our news vid here (ruclips.net/video/HgoNQ6MjCW0/видео.html). If you're interested, give it a watch ☺️
Jaejoong is my bias since like ever! 🥺 and yes it’s so sad that after all these years he still has to live with that fear 😢😢😢 people must learn and respect artists as humans 😓
been following him for years and he’s the sweetest person ever, hearing all of these stories throughout those years just terrified me, he never deserved any of this and the fact the agencies he worked for never protected him infuriates me to this day
ngl we even wondered how he can stay sane.. is.. amazing glad jj stay strong and keep pushing and look at him now, ceo of his company, great businessman, longlasting career, he’s doing amazing!
I'm a 2nd generation of Kpop fan and Yunho case is famous back then. Internet was not so famous, but the tabloid was. Even at the time, i was thinking sasaeng fans are sick people. And even until now, after being a kpop fan for over 15 years, and yes they are still sick people.
I wonder, besides this behavior, where these people get their money from. Buying private data costs money. I hope that people start to see their artists as people and stop supporting this behavior. You should check the petition that is to be submitted and if possible share it so that others also become aware of it.
It's all because of corruption. I believe that the owners and shareholders of entertainment companies need sasaengs and stalkers. Creating interest and attention around the artist is additional publicity for promotion without the company having to invest any money. Therefore, show business companies, using corruption, do not allow the authorities to fully cope with this shameful phenomenon.
These crazy people need to be dealt with sooner rather than later its ridiculous kpop stars and movie stars have to pit up with them and go through such stress misery and fear and anxiety because of them more needs to be done its taking far to long dealing with this they have no breathing space or private life.those crazy people are not fans fans have more respect and care for who they support and dont stalk them or scare them or make them feeled stalked or trapped for goodness sake how much longer will this go on find these pathetic excuses for human beings and stop them
The fact that he didn't even disclose all of the sasaeng's stories as he's afraid that those sasaengs would do something far more outrageous things are scary as hell.. poor him got such trauma.. If I'm not mistaken he has once caught sasaeng and send them to the jail but the jail time was very short.. he got scared thinking of what the sasaeng would do once they got released so he decided to moved again
This has to be his villain origin story trust me and you know what?? Ill fight anyone who says bad about him if he destroys those saesangs to be honest. I cant even imagine how much he must have suffered... Its literally insane!!! Dont these saesangs have families?
This is the most unnatural thing I’ve ever heard of that seems almost normalized and almost like a right of passage- a kids will be kids action seemingly. It’s insanity made okay
He is so gorgeous too bad people have messed things Up for him and robbing the rest nonstalkers from seeing him. Stalkers are scary and dangerous they are enough to end careers
I experienced being stalked by a suitor who liked me in my 20's (but i didn't blike him and frankly told him about it but he was persistent and very stubborn) i was just ignoring him until one day i discovered he was syalking me everywhere i go and it creeps me out for real . And one time i was in a night wake of our neighbor .with my friends .and suddenly one of my friends noticed someone was following us and she whispered in my ears and i got goosebumps i was so scared when i look at the guy, he was my neighbor . it was so creepy asf . And later i have learned from a friend that he was paid to stalk me there and see everything that I'm doing while i am at the place . He tried coming to my house for many times but i kept hiding,my father was dcone entertaining him and most of the time i sneaked out from d house soevially ay night and run to my cousin's house and end up sleeping over
Y'all should watch the movie Code Name Jackal. Haven't watched it in years but it's hilarious and dark. JJ gets kidnapped by Song Ji Hyo. But there's also a sasaeng that followed him and the psycho didn't help him escape but tried to have him drink poison🙄
Looking at this ... i m really worried about my idols... seeing my artist getting mob at the airport is already hard enough.... but as a international fan i m helpless
When will this behavior stop ✋🏾 🛑 happening again and again and again and again and again like don’t have some sort of shame? Aren’t they happy that they do this all the time? Aren’t they satisfied at all? This has to be one of the most frustrating and stressful things that “fans” put them through
I Feel.... Really Really Bad, I Never Realized What Saesangs Would Do, I'm Very Sorry To The Idols Who Experienced This, Idols Should Have Privacy And Safety, They're Humans Too
Korean law makers and Police should be ashamed that this behaviour is tolerated. It's about time for idols to be properly protected by stronger law and actual action by police.
This is … very disturbing like very creepy why would they do this to him I feel very sorry for this man like he didn’t do anything he is just a human just like us
I cant understand this crazy fan,,,how they have time to do all that when we r bz working all days,,,even to service our car we have to pack it in our schedule
That's why he changed his house many times and number even his cars. To his sasaengs, leave JJ alone he won't marry you even your force him. Give him a break. He already suffered too much. Stop it please.
Sasaeng fans are so disgusting. Why they are doing such shameful things???They should be punished very very hard from the authorities.. He is an amazing artist .his acting is fantastic. His voice is very nice ❤❤nice songs..he's so talented ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
not a fan of sm artists but do you ever think that, how would he have the courage to get married? imagine getting stalked and umm all those stuff happens to you too, if it were me I won't be able to get married, the one you married in the end might be that crazy sasaengs fan of yours, people really needs to know 'privacy'.
I am no expert by any means but I've found out recently that some people view Korean law as too lax (I live in the USA). Even over here, if someone accuses another person of stalking and informs the police, different states have different laws determining what can/should be done. The idea that sasaengs, stalkers, fanatics, etc. are still a problem should be in trainee's beginner's guide (book, pamphlet, notebook, sticky note...) and people should always remain aware of the fact that musicians, idols, movie stars, and TV stars are simply people.
Legal action is so far beyond over due. It’s disgusting to me that the labels & staff EVER allowed it to get as bad as it has. This artists provide the luxurious living those around them have yet they have to live & work in constant fear. What will the punishment be to those they threaten the countries national treasure? The treasure who are those countries economic hero’s? Slaps on the wrists like the SA scandals get? Or the no justice for the online stalking & bulling that played huge parts in artists that chose self exit as their only way to be left alone? I’ll be curious to see the results. I’ve been reporting a channel that goes to each BTS member’s homes for over a year & he’s STILL doing it as if today.
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I think the extreme amount of personal coverage ( media) of celebrities is unique to Korea. I don't see it elsewhere as this prevalent. You just can't get this much info on a person outside of korea. Some people get so emotionally involved in their personal lives this way that they feel like they truly know these celebrities, should have intimate access to them, and can force personal time with them. Even scripted videos with celebs are viewed as true real feelings of the performers. It really all comes down to money for entertainment businesses. Obsessed people buy all merch made, go to all concerts and appearances, buy more copies of albums, songs. Why slow/stop the money train to see who they've injured or killed when it's more profitable to move on. Sick.
@foggylegg6362 Absolutely. The sad thing is that the catered to audience falls for this money making gimmicks to the point of unhinged obsession. It's psychotic, not to mention psychologically damaging for both the celeb and the fans. The companies should be sued for not taking necessary precautions and more to protect their artists. This level of obsession is highly concerning. What the flip has the world come to? Common sense has become a total commodity and a rarity.
It's all because of corruption.
I believe that the owners and shareholders of entertainment companies need sasaengs and stalkers.
Creating interest and attention around the artist is additional publicity for promotion without the company having to invest any money.
Therefore, show business companies, using corruption, do not allow the authorities to fully cope with this shameful phenomenon.
getting stalked for 20 years, with that pressure how much would his mental health decline? and his social life would be in crumble.. he can't even make normal friends with all these sasaeng fans, crazy af
exactly… we also think he must have an amazing mental strength to pull through this.
just move to africa or iran, and wear burqa no one will know who he is and he will never be stalked again.
I knew it was going to be about Jaejoong without even clicking. He's been put in crazy situations his whole career even now.
same he has the worst saesangs
yes.. and the fact he still got sasaengs are just… 🤯🤯 let him go already!!
You would think those sasaengs would have grown out of this behavior.
@@allit8472 Jaejoong doesn't seem to age, it seems like his saesangs also don't want to grow up either.
It's crazy that they won't leave him alone.
His face with no make up, while he's wearing military uniform, is his best looks, imho.
Jaejoong in his military era is *chef kiss 🫶🏻
I loved his hair. He's so beautiful.
exactly
I thought so too, he looked cool.
The lax and almost non-existent laws against sasaengs and stalkers in korea is so wild. Jpop idols get restraints and stalkers arrested so easily in comparison. When will K-government actually implement protective laws into one of their biggest industries and the people working in it?
It's baffling.. 🤦🏻♀️ in one of our news video we talked about recent stalking incident of a Kpop Idol and actress, the punishment is surprisingly light..
here's the link, if you'd like more details to the story: ruclips.net/video/HgoNQ6MjCW0/видео.html
SK has anti stalking law, but not sure why it seems like we haven't seen significant punishment applied.
Maybe a lawyer can apply pressure to the situation.
@@Nisha_xo The companies should also put pressure on the government since it's their artists and staff who experience these awful situations
I have no idea. But it would be nice if saesang activity were prohibited. One fact becomes clear, saesangs are officially categorized as Yanderes and simps.
lucas from nct was put on hiatus by sm for years bc he called out a saesang who then made up fake rumors about him. he recently had a documentary come out and its like the life in him has been sucked out. everything that made him lucas - his confidence, his loud exclamations, his positive attitude - all gone. and its all bc he wanted to protect himself and his members.
clearly after so many years sm is still failing us. this is not a price they should have to pay for their careers.
Then they’d complain about idols being rude to them omg
tell us about it 🤦🏻♀️
He isn't one of the OG visual shock. He IS the visual shock. When people say " sm's face," they mean "jaejoong's face." I swear crazy fans were so bold back then that they kept on entering the houses or dormitories of idols as if they were the ones living there and not the idols.
20 years??? That’s horrible!!!
imagine the stress.. 🤦🏻♀️
I'm living less years than it and I'm legally considered as an adult💀
Wth the police responding with “it’s natural for fans to want to see their idol” is crazy, it’s so sad for idols because they have to endure a long period of harassment from Sasaengs and only then will the public view their case as ‘severe ‘ and talk about it and also involve police action, it’s so crazy how if they tell their stalker’s to back off they’re seen as ‘rude’ or ‘ungrateful’ of their fans.
The K-pop industry in itself is crazy because for other celebrities around the world they have the concept of being ‘fans’ ofc there are some ‘crazy fans’ but the crazy fans term is South Korea is on another level , while in other parts of the world people are ‘fans’ of the works put out by celebrities in Korea fans view their celebrities especially idols as something they own and are ‘entitled’ to simply because they purchase their albums,tickets and support them.
This whole concept is so disturbing the entitlement that this fans have is crazy the whole point of these idols are to produce something with their hard work and we are fans of their products not the producers alone, this very concept gets blown away in the K-pop fandom , fans mistake supporting their idols by being fans for their works for simply supporting them because they are fans of the ‘idol ‘ not the work they put out hence comes the understanding of ‘what you are right now is because of your fans’ which ofc is true but in this case not only does the hard work of the idols goes unnoticed but they are reduced to nothing but ‘property of fans’
A normal person would purchase an album because they are a ‘fan of the groups works’ this is lost in the transaction process of k-fans who think they’re ‘buying their idols ‘ rather than the product put out
Not only are the fans crazy but also are the companies for putting out some very boyfriend/girlfriend suggestive contents knowing that these will attract not only normal fans but also garner unwanted attention. I believe that the existence of sasaengs are also very much part of the company’s fault for not having enough restraints against such situations which prompt the sasaengs to think it’s that easy to get close to their idols which leaves an example to upcoming sasaengs.
What sasaengs want won’t be considered ‘love’ or ‘mutual feelings’ from their idols but instead they see the idols as something they are entitled to have and are simply an object which is particularly reserved for them. I think there should be a deep dive of Sasaeng culture because I think not only are these fans obsessed or crazy I think it also shows some underlying mental disorders.
Ofc it’s not only Korean fans there are some other nationalities sasaeng, not all Korean fans but it’s mostly them
Appreciate you sharing your thoughts! yess ain’t it crazy how the police just brushed off his report like that 🤦🏻♀️
and you’re right, the entitlement is crazy.. but part of it.. this industry actually grooms sasaengs
at least when you are a more well known celebrity you have more means such as JJ who keeps moving house, buying new cars etc
we read stories of when sasaengs targeted nugu groups and that’s actually sad, cause one of the manager said it’s a dilemma since they (the sasaengs) are the ones who spends the most..
and nugu groups can’t really refuse much cause they still not that “celebrity enough” and it can cause bad reputation
it’s literally between a rock and a hard place 🤦🏻♀️
@@KPOPNook for real since they’re also the top spenders for their biased groups harsh industry it is
@@CCc-nr1xv yes.. the stalking law needs to be reinforced and strengthen with more heavy punishment 🥲
The police are right people love to meet their idols but showing up on the idol’s doorstep unknowingly is totally not natural and acceptable behavior😡 that is stalking
@@oceanatheangelofdarkness301 rightt! this is beyond normal. real fans won’t do that, there’s a line in privacy that shouldn’t be breached 🫠
During his TVXQ days, he often lost friends bcs he lost contact with them due to keep changing his number. Sasaengs used to duplicated his number and stalked via clone phone. Those days were beyond our imaginations.
My poor Jaejoong. He has gone through a lot in his whole career.
ya poor guy, more pitiful than your parents.
This is CRAZY 😭 This one was of the stories I heard about most when I first got into kpop. Imagine people being so crazy to break into your house, expose your private life, get your phone number,etc. South Korea really needs to make laws to protect them from these insane people.
righttt 😭😭 how can they call themselves fans
i really feel like this issue would lesson if companies stopped marketing kpop stars as ideal 'bf/gf' and started focusing more on them being artists
That really doesn't make sense, does it???? If they are marketed as bf/gf, why are the(saesangs) stalking instead of just seeing the idols at fan-meets???? This behavior is psychopathic, nothing to do with the marketing
Nah not really. There are plenty normal ppl out there too. These crazy ppl choose to become crazy by themself.
Other ex: there are also crazy sports fans but the athlete never promote/marketing themself as smthg or encourage them to act like that right? So who is the problem? - the fans. They should know better not to cross the line.
He even once updated in Fromm asking fans to be respectful and not purposely book seats next to him in airplanes because he said it;s one of the only place he can have a rest and a break from public eye but they keep booking seats next to him on flights.
This is soo heartbreaking...😢
Dayyyam!
Do you know of he has his own plane like a private jet?
It’s so sad that true fans can‘t really do anything. He always says how grateful he is about true fans etc. about the things they do for him and that they love him. But this doesn‘t help anything about the crazy fans, does it?
Imean politics etc. don‘t Even try to change anything for the security of idols. And real fans are probably not allowed to hunt does crazy fans down and go against them with legal action or even do something about crazy fans on themselves. I mean something like hunting them down and scare the shit out of them but without harm. Talking to JJ for example in person on a private basis isn‘t possible because his trust to the world must be damaged a lot. He will always meet fans on a concert or meet and greets or in videos, these are non private occasions to talk to him, he will stay professional and don‘t get me wrong here please, it’s important for him to stay professional and don‘t get in private contact with fans. But what I thinking of os simply telling him in private real fans will never be like crazy fans and he can contact any time he want real fans to talk to them every time he is scared or anything. This would maybe help him mentally or even he could call fans, who live close by to ask them if they could help with the police, then he calls the Police says that is he in danger and there Are Even other persons who try to help.
But I understand that he also does want to be out of public in certain times.
It’s just sad that we can‘t like really help him with big results like crazy fans stopping from their actions.
@@miasma_girl Unrelated, but when you talked about private jets I remembered how Taylor Swift is receiving major backlash right now for releasing so much carbon emission from her private jets. It's almost insane-- because everyone understands she can never use public transport safely anyway, yet they still criticize her for it instead of looking at wasteful billionaires instead. With western artists, they never talk about sasaengs when they clearly exist everywhere. My heart goes out for jaejoong who wasn't as fortunate as taylor swift is to afford his own safety, privacy, and mental health through a little private transport even just for a short while of rest and reprieve. His mental fortitude is unwavering, strong and admirable. I hope he's doing ok
@@aureliaavalon yeah true but you shouldnt use ur private jet for a night out, which is why she got cancelled for that singular thing
They are likely the same fans who get mad when their favourite idols gets married or even dates... Invasive for no reason. The laws around stalking and even endangering someone's life should be reconsidered, of course these laws have to change but it seems that nothing will be done...
Yes.. the ones who sent protest trucks and demanded apology 🤦♀️
There's recent case if you know Karina from AESPA, her dating news came out, then she posted letter of apology, but then the fans get angrier and sent protest truck🤦♀️
if you wanna see the detail, can check out the video here ruclips.net/video/oUPMVd7JiQw/видео.html
oh i have heard about that, i love how international fans are more chill and less possessive... but fans will never understand.. kpop idols are humans too and not robots.. :/@@KPOPNook
These are NOT fans, but deeply disturbed people. Wait for old age. Hopefully, they will tire.
if you see in one of our news vid, this one sasaeng is 59 years old... and sentenced due to stalking APINK's EUNJI for 3 years and sadly.. the sentence is very light: you can watch the news here if you'd like: ruclips.net/video/HgoNQ6MjCW0/видео.html
The other day, we saw an article of another older sasaeng stalking a 15 yrs trot idol..
Some creeps knows no age really...
It was so creepy 😢 how can you call yourself fans while you keep bothering your idol
they’re really on another level 🤦🏻♀️
in the same vein how can you call yourself fans when you dont even bother looking at them
I would never wish anyone to be stalked. Stalkers are scary.
Jaejoong: why am i here just to suffer
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It's time that laws are strengthened for invasion of privacy, selling information, harmful acts, towards celebrities. Celebrities should be able to get restraining orders against these people and jail time should be mandatory.
poor peeps worry for the filthy rich. how kind of you
People saying he should move , first or all he has a whole house in japan too ..also why should the victim move from his birth country ????!! ...
My goodness let’s forget about them being in the public but even in their own house they’re being stalked 🤦🏻♀️ That’s so freaking creepy. You can’t even relax properly, overthinking about saesangs from somewhere might be watching or recording you.
Yeah.. and that sasaeng who move across him... is really too much. 🥹
What the fuck... im scared as hell. Poor idols
right.. 😞
He needs to come to the US and get a gun license. That'll scare his crazy stalkers off.
I remember when he said in naver now with a smiling face that he is at ease that he didn't have any encounter with sasaengs for the past years, but oh boy he was wrong.
I wish korean law will firmly handle sasaengs not only them but also the k-netz cyber bullying. It is horrible and terrifying.
yes.. 😭 hope he sues them all with the evidences he has collected.
ah.. cyber bullying is also one of the persisting problem..and we’ve seen lives lost because of it, it’s not funny 🥲
The crazy way in which he has been harassed is so upsetting. Like imagine you only get 2-5 hours of sleep cause your company treats you like a slave & you gotta worry about crazy ppl kissing you while you sleep or breaking into your house??? Absolute Insanity
absolutely worst.. he's been through a lot.
I’m an American…I just don’t understand why there aren’t strict stalker laws in Korea. We have them here. I don’t understand why the obsession. I’m a fan of k-dramas and k-pop. I enjoy the actors and singer work, but that is as far as it goes for me. I think there is too much leeway for these delusional people. I feel so bad for the actors and singers. Fans do NOT have the right to dictate who someone dates or marries. They don’t have the right to break into their homes. Their government needs to understand that these actors and singers are an asset to their country and need to be protected at all costs.
it’s still a mystery.. and sasaengs mind worked differently.
one of idol managers mentioned that even resort to using violence doesn’t work on the sasaengs. Any interaction.. is attention, regardless😭
there was sasaengs that even goes as far as slapping the idols just to get a reaction out of them, it’s heartbreaking, really..
Things like this happen all over the world in many countries… but there seems to be a difference in how the Kpop industry has built their business.
The way that these agencies build the marketing of their idols through illusion of this unhealthy fantasy relationship is part of why things are so unhealthy and toxic…
good point, esp during early Kpop's Hallyu Wave, these idols are marketed as the Perfect-almost-non-humans-being (back then, they can't even openly say they are going to bathroom..), so fans really worship them. Plus, there was no regulation regarding stalking law so Sasaengs are even more wild.
It's mindblowing though to see how far someone is willing to go just to get close to their idols..🤦🏼♀
South Korea makes tons of money off k-pop industry, yet k-pop idols don't have any substantial legal protection. Make it make sense?.. It's amazing that Jaejoong remains as nice, friendly and respectful as he always was. He endured so much. Truly a strong person. I'm glad he's taking legal actions. Watch him to make history again!
People are so so creepy
Kpop sasaengs are another breeds 🤦🏼♀️
@@KPOPNook TRULY
@@KPOPNookand unfortunately like zombies they are hard to get rid of 😅
@@ELmayberry THISSS
one of the idols from first Gen mention that Sasaengs doesn’t stop
they just MOVE to another group.
🥲
He saw his previous sasaengs now following his junior 🤦🏻♀️
@@KPOPNook 😱OMG.. 😕 that's creepy 😔and yet scary as muck 😒
I hate that for them 😅
Nothing going to change till they change a law and reveal those psychopaths faces…
imagine being so crazy that there is a documentary about weird people like this.
more ppl have to know this creepy breeds existed 🤦🏻♀️
Being the OG Visual in kpop industry and he is still remain unbeatable for his visual its no wonder why all these saesang went wild and crazy. Even now with more strict and tight security protecting idols, there is still alot of saesangs who still go overboard.
Yes!! His always the OG Visual, even now when I watch him on Jaechingu i'm always amaze like.. How are you still sooo fine Jaejoong-ah! 😭❤️
and you're right, sasaengs are just a constant ongoing problem, they never goes away...
damn the fact that I discover him in 2014 and just fall in love , I thought TVXQ was a Japanese boyband but no they were Korean, I'm sad that these people make him a hard life like that ... I also thought that Taeyong get a ressemblance with him when he debuted I was shocked I thought they were relative, but no ! well I hope he will be okay and people will leave him alone.
rightt the resemblance is uncanny, they can really pass as brothers 🥹
This is incredibly disturbing 😰 I’m scared for him and all idols. I can’t understand how you become so obsessed that you have to stalk and invade your favorites idol’s privacy.
What do they get out off this? How can someone be so cruel? 😢
not sure... 🫠 their brains are wired differently
@@KPOPNook😂😂😂woow
Honestly, whenever Jaejoong is being asked either by his parents or by his fans when he would get married, I think the answer lies within his experiences and past. Somewhere between SM's slave contract, the ongoing battles, the stalker incidents traumatizing him and the police doing nothing to protect him, saying how "they are your fans, you shouldn't file a report", I'm certain Jaejoong looked at himself in the mirror one day and wondered who would put up with a life like that to be with him. A life with zero privacy. Who would lower their walls and let go of something as precious as the notion of privacy to hold his hand, knowing a stalker is within the house, ready to take pictures and expose. Especially with what happened with Seunghan nowadays.
When he launched Jae & Friends, wanting to make friends, I came to the conclusion that everyone who saw him back in the day never approached him because his idol persona being the cold and mysterious man broke the 4th wall into his real life and he was deemed unapproachable by peers and juniors, cold and distant.
Jaejoong will forever remain in my heart as my ult idol, knowing that stalkers and companies alike single-handedly gave him the dream and then destroyed his life.
I can't imagine being in his place. I would've left the country
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Daaaaaammmmnnnnn. 20 years of madness. 😮 lad has got serious steel.
and the fact that this guy is still one of the sweetest celebrities out there?! .... it's beyond me, bro!!
I think that on his place I'd get crazy... very closed off and stuff like that
and it's a wonder Jaejoong is friendly to this very day and is still part of this industry that did him wrong for so long
just proves that he's a great guy and never deserved any of the bs he went through
These are not fans. They are stalkers, terrorizing people. Korean laws need to label them and treat stalking as a serious crime with steep fines and some jail time. These stalkers have family with money and connections. Can pay people off for info. Hire the taxis. Get hotel keys as with 2pm. Airline tickets and travel. Maybe that's why the lack of prosecution. The families of these basically make the gdp and the laws there.
yes.. how they manage to break in the idols hotel room/dorms are just crazy..
That kind of behavior is beyond disturbing! How terrible it must be to live with that. I got chills just listening to the story about the delivery person! God Bless this young man.
No wonder he chooses not to have children and a wife that would be 10x scarier
Is it possible that his previous company resent him Soo much that they sent someone to mess with him ? 😢 it’s crazy that the sassaeng “always know” private stuffs about him without insider info. 👀
Maybe someone in that company is accepting bribes from sasaengs to reveal his info? Maybe they also have access to a dedicated hacker who works for money. Or maybe a government worker who has access to his car number plates and addresses etc is a sasaeng.
This is so sad and scary. Saesang and stalker laws should be much more stricter.
they have anti-stalking law. But for some reasons, we never see real punishments for it. There's a case where a female celeb sue their stalker for stalking her for 3 years, and the punishment is surprisingly light...
We dove deeper into this topic in our news vid here (ruclips.net/video/HgoNQ6MjCW0/видео.html). If you're interested, give it a watch ☺️
Jaejoong is my bias since like ever! 🥺 and yes it’s so sad that after all these years he still has to live with that fear 😢😢😢 people must learn and respect artists as humans 😓
This is so scary 😢😢😢 why people are like that ..
it’s a mystery really 🤦🏻♀️
been following him for years and he’s the sweetest person ever, hearing all of these stories throughout those years just terrified me, he never deserved any of this and the fact the agencies he worked for never protected him infuriates me to this day
ngl we even wondered how he can stay sane.. is.. amazing
glad jj stay strong and keep pushing and look at him now, ceo of his company, great businessman, longlasting career, he’s doing amazing!
gurl cs of the video when you said 'been following him' i thought of something VERY different-
Poor oppa😢,my first kpop idol i love.
yeah 🤦🏻♀️😭
Gees, appreciate the multi talented Man. Don't impose on his private
I'm a 2nd generation of Kpop fan and Yunho case is famous back then. Internet was not so famous, but the tabloid was. Even at the time, i was thinking sasaeng fans are sick people. And even until now, after being a kpop fan for over 15 years, and yes they are still sick people.
yunho case is.. crazy
he could’ve died, what was that sasaeng thinking really 🤦🏻♀️
wtf this is disgusting. i hope he will eventually recover from this even though it will be not easy.
I wonder, besides this behavior, where these people get their money from. Buying private data costs money. I hope that people start to see their artists as people and stop supporting this behavior. You should check the petition that is to be submitted and if possible share it so that others also become aware of it.
People are so determined and creepy
indeed.. 😞😞
It's all because of corruption.
I believe that the owners and shareholders of entertainment companies need sasaengs and stalkers.
Creating interest and attention around the artist is additional publicity for promotion without the company having to invest any money.
Therefore, show business companies, using corruption, do not allow the authorities to fully cope with this shameful phenomenon.
Imagine, if these sasaengs will have children, and you as their child knew that your parent/s were sasaengs.
He looks like Robert Pattinson. His visual is serving especially in Bad Memory Eraser
These crazy people need to be dealt with sooner rather than later its ridiculous kpop stars and movie stars have to pit up with them and go through such stress misery and fear and anxiety because of them more needs to be done its taking far to long dealing with this they have no breathing space or private life.those crazy people are not fans fans have more respect and care for who they support and dont stalk them or scare them or make them feeled stalked or trapped for goodness sake how much longer will this go on find these pathetic excuses for human beings and stop them
I feel so bad for this guy. 20 years of stalking.
how is it even 'normal for fans to see their idols' in this manner????
The fact that he didn't even disclose all of the sasaeng's stories as he's afraid that those sasaengs would do something far more outrageous things are scary as hell.. poor him got such trauma..
If I'm not mistaken he has once caught sasaeng and send them to the jail but the jail time was very short.. he got scared thinking of what the sasaeng would do once they got released so he decided to moved again
This has to be his villain origin story trust me and you know what?? Ill fight anyone who says bad about him if he destroys those saesangs to be honest. I cant even imagine how much he must have suffered... Its literally insane!!! Dont these saesangs have families?
This is the most unnatural thing I’ve ever heard of that seems almost normalized and almost like a right of passage- a kids will be kids action seemingly. It’s insanity made okay
yes.. it’s surprising how some of the sasaengs around are minors 😅
He is so gorgeous too bad people have messed things Up for him and robbing the rest nonstalkers from seeing him. Stalkers are scary and dangerous they are enough to end careers
It's always sm idols with the dangerous saesang fans why though??
He is releasing music under his compang inkonde lets support him
I experienced being stalked by a suitor who liked me in my 20's (but i didn't blike him and frankly told him about it but he was persistent and very stubborn) i was just ignoring him until one day i discovered he was syalking me everywhere i go and it creeps me out for real . And one time i was in a night wake of our neighbor .with my friends .and suddenly one of my friends noticed someone was following us and she whispered in my ears and i got goosebumps i was so scared when i look at the guy, he was my neighbor . it was so creepy asf . And later i have learned from a friend that he was paid to stalk me there and see everything that I'm doing while i am at the place . He tried coming to my house for many times but i kept hiding,my father was dcone entertaining him and most of the time i sneaked out from d house soevially ay night and run to my cousin's house and end up sleeping over
Y'all should watch the movie Code Name Jackal. Haven't watched it in years but it's hilarious and dark. JJ gets kidnapped by Song Ji Hyo. But there's also a sasaeng that followed him and the psycho didn't help him escape but tried to have him drink poison🙄
They are not fans...they are the worst stalkers😤
If he wanna escape he should move to another country
Looking at this ... i m really worried about my idols... seeing my artist getting mob at the airport is already hard enough.... but as a international fan i m helpless
When will this behavior stop ✋🏾 🛑 happening again and again and again and again and again like don’t have some sort of shame? Aren’t they happy that they do this all the time? Aren’t they satisfied at all?
This has to be one of the most frustrating and stressful things that “fans” put them through
So crazy….what a nightmare…
hope he sues them all 😡
If I had to experience such thing I would quit being a K-pop idol the first day the incident occurred
I Feel.... Really Really Bad, I Never Realized What Saesangs Would Do, I'm Very Sorry To The Idols Who Experienced This, Idols Should Have Privacy And Safety, They're Humans Too
Korean law makers and Police should be ashamed that this behaviour is tolerated. It's about time for idols to be properly protected by stronger law and actual action by police.
This is … very disturbing like very creepy why would they do this to him I feel very sorry for this man like he didn’t do anything he is just a human just like us
sasaengs are like obsessed haters disguised as fans.
the lines between love and obsession is very thin 🫠
I cant understand this crazy fan,,,how they have time to do all that when we r bz working all days,,,even to service our car we have to pack it in our schedule
That’s seriously creepy 😢
That's why he changed his house many times and number even his cars.
To his sasaengs, leave JJ alone he won't marry you even your force him. Give him a break. He already suffered too much. Stop it please.
He's 38?? He looks so young tho
Jeez these so called fans really need serious help
and that delivery person is on a whole another level… 🤦🏻♀️ poor jaejoong really..
@@KPOPNook yeah. To me that is more scary than someone coming up to you and touching your bum
Sasaeng fans are so disgusting. Why they are doing such shameful things???They should be punished very very hard from the authorities..
He is an amazing artist .his acting is fantastic. His voice is very nice ❤❤nice songs..he's so talented ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
This is so sad. How he dealt with this for two decades??!
right.. it's actually amazing how he can still function, perform and just.. be sane, really🥹
By changing his house always and his number. Also, his cars.
Give him a break 😢
righttt 😭😭
This is a horror movie in real life
yes… that sasaeng who move across him or the delivery person.. idk which one is creepier 🤦🏻♀️
@@KPOPNook Yeah there's so much creep things that they can do a horror movie inspired in his history
That’s just not normal. Why are they so weird and disgusting. I can’t understand it. !!! Feel so bad for him. I think they should be prosecuted.
Right... idk which one is creepier, moving right across him or that delivery sasaeng.
All are.. disturbing
Jaejoong ❤
he’s coming back to major TV broadcast now!! it’s been a long time coming 🥲🥲🎉
@@KPOPNook yes finally after 15 years ❤️
@@KPOPNookYes this is so exciting!
Laws against stalkers should.be. stronger as it means the idols life could be lost and more wouldn't go into this industry because of stalkers
They'll go... for fame and money!
not a fan of sm artists but do you ever think that, how would he have the courage to get married? imagine getting stalked and umm all those stuff happens to you too, if it were me I won't be able to get married, the one you married in the end might be that crazy sasaengs fan of yours, people really needs to know 'privacy'.
Isn't he from the "Jaefriends" show
Goodness 🥺
That's really scary i feel bad for him 😭
20years 💀💀💀 wtf is wrong with these people.
Jaejoong literally looks like if Lee Know and Seonghwa had a baby
I am no expert by any means but I've found out recently that some people view Korean law as too lax (I live in the USA). Even over here, if someone accuses another person of stalking and informs the police, different states have different laws determining what can/should be done. The idea that sasaengs, stalkers, fanatics, etc. are still a problem should be in trainee's beginner's guide (book, pamphlet, notebook, sticky note...) and people should always remain aware of the fact that musicians, idols, movie stars, and TV stars are simply people.
when he has no make up and all the hair stuffs. That's when he looks the best :) the make up actually make him look old tbh
he talk abt some of the crazy sasaeng story in his jaefriends show
That is so not cool! People need to learn boundaries ☹️☹️☹️
Legal action is so far beyond over due. It’s disgusting to me that the labels & staff EVER allowed it to get as bad as it has. This artists provide the luxurious living those around them have yet they have to live & work in constant fear. What will the punishment be to those they threaten the countries national treasure? The treasure who are those countries economic hero’s?
Slaps on the wrists like the SA scandals get? Or the no justice for the online stalking & bulling that played huge parts in artists that chose self exit as their only way to be left alone?
I’ll be curious to see the results. I’ve been reporting a channel that goes to each BTS member’s homes for over a year & he’s STILL doing it as if today.