M1Carbine v Mini 14
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- These two rifles just scream to be compared to each other. The Inland M1 carbine modern manufacture versus the Ruger Mini 14. So we decided today to do a 100 round shoot off at 50 yards as well as a shoot off at 100 yards and check accuracy & function including mag dumps.
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It's like deciding which hot sister you want to ask out first. The trick is to eventually do them both.
I decided to do both sisters at once 😉
This is so messed up 😂
Or take the younger one.. Ruger )
@@ahmadjarrad2635pp7j.
I don’t have any sisters, can I borrow yours?
I like the M1 Carbine, I shoot it a lot. I tolerate the 5.56.
You need to buy the tech site for the Mini-14 for your particular weapon it will look just like the M1A or M14 sight you will definitely like it
I own both of these rifles as well as the M1 Rifle. The carbine was the AR-15 of the day. In some ways better. If you have a trained man, hand 'em a M1 carbine and say 3 bandoleers, he has 300 rounds of ammo in 10 round stripper clips. It takes me about 5 seconds to load 30 rounds. It's ready to go again. With the AR or Mini? You'd better have another mag ready or you're down. As long as I can see you, you're probably hit. So 200 yards is no problem and It'll be enough for a kill. At 100 yards it has as much energy as a 357 magnum at the muzzle. The Koreans used them until recently. One of the best carbines of all time. It's also a hell of a lot of fun to shoot. As long as you can get the ammo.
The Mini is also an awesome rifle. Between the M1 rifle and the Mini-14? I'd take the Mini. The M1 rifle is heavy and the ammo is heavier. A lot heavier than the 223. They both have very good actions. They won't let you down. Just make sure it has grease. Yes, grease. Not a whole lot. The M1s they used to use axle grease. I also use axle grease in the WW II era P38 and it works a lot better. Oil isn't enough. Better than nothing, however you want grease to hold it there. Change it out every year or it'll get hard.
@@8166PC1 not every one is in call of duty land
I love my Mini 14, 30, M1 Carbine, Pistol and Revolver.
The extra range of the Mini 14 doesn't help home defense. If I was protecting my house I'd want an M1 carbine.
Good video….good commentary
M1 carbine serve the world military in WW2 and Korean outbreak, while the mini 14 is a copy of the m1 carbine
A lot of older ethnic minority guerrillas in Myanmar (Burma to us old timers) still use M1 and M2 carbines to fight the oppressive Tatmadaw. The M16 is more effective in many ways, but the carbines continue to have devoted users out in those jungles. They must be pretty good.
Gosh watching this has been a breath of fresh air. Finally someone knowledgeable regarding what the rifles intended purpose is. So many folks use the 1 MOA standard and to be honest I think that’s a bit overused. Great review , I’m a huge fan of the Mini-14 and the M14 and the m1 carbine. My favorite rifles. 😊
While station in Boise Idaho with the marines I came across a very unusual version of the M 1 carbine at gun dealership by the name Parcells (spelling is questionable) this carbine had been modified by the Melvin Johnson fire arms company, it was rebarraled. To 221cal. Cartridges , I believe it was called the 221spitfire. It the only one of this type I've ever seen, I aways wondered how this Cartridge performed, I understand it was a necked down version of the 30 cal carbine Cartridges. I would have liked tried it out on the range anyone else run across weapon? And what was its performance like.
The M1 has a history factor that can't be denied! They make great truck or trunk carry around in rural areas
Mine got a Choate folding stock. I use 110 grain soft point bullets. It's my primary home defense weapon because it has no recoil, and a 3 war record for reliability! I love the "war baby"!
Both are amazing carbines, love the old fashioned look, shame they are off limits to me in the U.K. as I would have at least 1 of each!
@@TheCrusher72 getting a gun permit in the uk is too hard.
As much as I absolutely love the Mini 14, I'd choose the M-1 carbine.
I have an M1 Carbine and a Mini 14. The M1 carbine weighs a lot less. Ruger products always weigh more than they have to. The M1 is easier to shoot well, probably just the sights. This comparison is not fair to the Mini, however, as you are shooting the old "Pencil" barreled version. The newer thicker barreled rifle is less prone to heat stringing. As for reliability, the M1's weakness has always been it's magazine. If I were to pick one it would be the M1.. Just the Weight difference makes ALL the difference. If they trimmed 2 pounds off the Mini, it would be more viable.
He's also shooting the wrong ammo. He should have been shooting a 55gr not a 62gr bullet
I Have Three M-1 Carbine, saginaw, A Winchester, A Rock Ola,A GP 100 Mini 14 Ruger ,Lov Them,101 Tennessee Prepper Smoky Mountain TN,👍👍
Rock Ola - that is sweet! I have a 1944 IBM. Wonderful shooters.
The Max effective range of the M1 Carbine was 250 yards according to old Army and USMC Field manuels. But many shooter could hit up to 300 yards and more.
I can hit a 30 inch steel target at 300 yards all day long with both. The M1 carbine was well liked because it was light and handy to carry. My Grandfather was issued one as a rifle platoon leader in WW2. The first chance he got a swapped it out for the M1 Garand. He told me that the first German soldier he shot with the carbine took 8 rounds before he went down. The next time out it only took one out of the M1 Garand.
I've owned both. The main thing I like about the M1 Carbine over the Mini-14 is portability.
The carbine is great for what it is. Carbine is only 5 pounds and the 30 cal carbine round is basically a pistol. The Carbine is designed to function as a long range pistol which makes it great for home defense. The 30 cal round will not travel through a dozen wall, yet is equivalent to a .357 Mag for knock down power.
WWII Audie Murphy won the Congressional Medal of Honor using the M-1 Carbine!!
@@cliffords2315
He Won The MOH, By
Using A Radio (To Call
In Artillery On Armor) &
A .50 Cal MG On A Burning
Tank Destroyer (To Deal
With Infantry)...
@@cliffords2315 remember famous mobster Bugsy Siegel ? He was tore up by an M1 carbine with ball ammo. One of the bullets went through his head with so much pressure...one eyeball was pushed out of the socket 15 feet away . Truly effective round .
Hi, have you ever compared the older mini like yours, (I assume 278 series) to the newer 580 series? It’s a pretty big difference. I installed a harmonic stabilizing rod on mine, giving it the appearance of an M-14’s gas rod extension housing, however the reason for installing is to ensure slightly better groupings. It worked. I also installed Wolff extra power chrome silicon springs, extended magazine release lever, Hoague stock, I fabricated my own brass deflector/picatinny rail, so I could low mount a Nikon 4-16 Active Target Scope, and an Ultimak Rail. Mine (580-1) is the variant without the bird cage on the end of the muzzle but since I’m stuck in a blue state for 5 more years that’s ok. I learned from an older gunsmith than myself how to tune the Mini-14’s trigger and bring it down to 3 pounds crisp. One thing anybody can do is use polishing compound and felt pencil tip shaped wheels on a dremel to polish out the mating surfaces on a mini-14, clean with rubbing alcohol before and after and re-lubricate/grease and that will take out some of the grit.
Oh, let me add, I understand Lancer Magazines (new kid on the block) has a mini-14/30 magazine either already out or in the works. Lancer Magazines have a steel top end mated/molded to a composite body in the manufacturing process. Supposed to be able to drive a car on top and it won’t deform…
It's the 180 series with 1 in 7 twist barrel. Ruger was trying to get ahead of the game for that series by having a barrel that would stabilize heavy bullets.
With a 180 series I had once I mounted a scope on I was getting 1.5 inch groups with 168 grain factory match. I was getting 2.5 inch with 62 grain. Without a stabilizer.
With the 55 grain m193 it was spreading the shots out wildly. Pretty much typical behavior.
With 52 grain match handloads the bullets disintegrated out of the barrel.
The m16a2 HBARwas able to stabilize the 55 grain better even though it also had 1 in 7 twist but the barrel is pretty thick.
Light, crisp triggers are great for the range. There's no adrenaline pumping from rounds coming towards you.
That's why mil spec is the way it is.
Training training training.
The sound of a "steel mosquito" going by your ear will make anyone forget about what has a better trigger!
Best to ya',,,,!
I apologize if I missed it in the video, but what vintage is that Mini-14? If it's older than the 580 versions, I'd be interested to see the comparison with one of the newer Minis.
There are differences I have a 182 and it doesn’t take down as much as a 580.
no taper on barrel so it is not a 580 version it is an older version.
The early ones also had a 1/12 twist rate...
Almost everyone refers to the .30 carbines as a pistol cartridge even though it has always been chambered as a carbine. Very few pistols were ever chambered for it and those came well after production of the carbines ceased ( from original mfrs).
My uncle carried a 30 carbine and a welrod, was sf when sf wssnt even a concept. He said the option was a gyro rocket wich he said was a piece of shit . My cousin and I played with it when we were kids .
The .30 Carbine only looks like a pistol cartridge, but is much more powerful. I had a Ruger Blackhawk in .30 Carbine, and it was awful to shoot with standard ammo. Big flash and high recoil. Requires handloading to work right in a pistol.
Compare the ballistics b/t the .30 carbine & the .44/.45. Even with the mag rounds the .30 is very comparable.
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Yeah. Ruger made a 30 Carbine Blackhawk.
And don't forget the 30 Carbine pistol (The Enforcer). Most parts are interchangeable between the Carbine and the Enforcer as long as both were made by Iver Johnson.
Good video David, and the results you've shown here for the Ruger bears out what I've heard,..that there are better ( more accurate ) shooting rifles out there than this one.
I am not surprised at the grouping you got with the M1 in .30 cal.
Enjoyable to watch, Thank you.
Mini-14 has a great reputation for feeding ammo and mechanical function. Several different companies made the m1 carbine. I’m sure if Ruger made m1’s they would function better. You can get mixed results with m1’s. Mini-14’s are way more consistent across the board. Mini-14 has no combat history with US military. M1 does with all due respect. Playing musical chairs with history. Mini14!
Ruger did make an M1 Carbine Blackhawk Revolver and two companies made M1 Carbine Pistols (The Enforcer).
I picked up both of these rifles recently. My M1 Carbine, a 1945 Standard Products that I completely went through and changed the springs, used all new (old stock) bolt components, and lubricated everything. Muzzle and throat were almost nonexistent. The Mini-14 (in .223/.556) I bought was brand new and in stainless. So it has the latest and greatest barrel, action, etc. The results mirrored what this video showed. The M1 Carbine was far more accurate and an absolute sweetheart to use. I'll keep hammering away with the Mini but I'm surprised that Ruger has yet to erase some of the gun's somewhat shaky history.
The M1 Carbine was used by many law enforcement officers as a patrol rifle back in the 60's, 70's and early 80's. It was small light and minimal recoil. The AR 15 took its place.
We gave M-1 Carbines to the South Vietnamese Army, they did a great job with them.
A most enjoyable, and information packed video. Nice work.
Good video, through my results are a bit different. I have both a Mini-14 and an M-1 Carbine (recent Auto Ordnance reproduction). Broke in the M-1 Carbine by cycling the bolt 1,500 times. Put a touch of grease in the charging track. Roughly 700 rounds downrange and rarely get through a 15-round mag without at least one FTE. Different ammo brands, different mag brands (including USGI) - same results. Zero issues after 500 rounds with the (used, but new to me) Mini-14 with Ruger mags. Maybe Inland's reproduction is just better. But for me, the Mini-14 wins hands down on the basis of reliability - no contest at all.
Thanks for taking the time and effort! The M1 carbine is the handiest and most fun rifle I've ever had the pleasure of shooting. The Army trained me on 5.56 so I know where to hold. The Mini 14 combines the best of both worlds into one of the most beautiful semi-auto rifles ever made.
Agreed, except for that nasty sulfuric smell of the 30 carbine after being fired.
I feel like the mini 14 while cool is kinda obsolete to the ar15 but i guess the same can go with the m1 carbine as it is a obsolete p90 but there is just something that interests me about the m1 carbine and its bullet compared to a 5.7 or 556
@@nocturnalrecluse1216 That was your buddies fart lol
@@alonzahanks1182 Yeah. My m1 carbine can get mighty gassy. 😂
Wow Thats realy weird mine has never done that Sounds like black powder lol mine smells like the rest of my guns lol
might be some thing your cleaning it with.@@nocturnalrecluse1216
You just need more practice with those sites and once you figure it out you will be hitting that Target Center Mass
You are kind of biased and also full of crap. The .30 carbine has about the same amount of energy as the m193 out of the 14.5 inch barrel of an m4.
3300 fps with m193 can only be achieved in 20-24 inch barrel rifles.
It's an intermediate rifle round, not a handgun round. It has 1.5 times the energy of a .357 magnum. Even if the .357 magnum is shot from an 18 inch barrel it can only just match the .30 carbine if it is the buffalo bore hit loaded ammo
Which interestingly in .30 carbine buffalo bore has 125 grain load that develops 1200-1300 foot pounds of energy.
In momentum the .30 carbine carries 31 pound feet vs only 24 pound feet in m193 out of a 16 inch barrel.
Actually, it's chambered for the .556 and handles the .223. If chamber for a .223 the pressure of a .556 round could damage the weapon. ;)
Dave, the accuracy issue you're having with your earlier production Mini-14 has been largely resolved by the factory in more current models of both the Mini-14 and Mini-30, but they tend to suffer from a heavy and gritty-feeling trigger pull. That's easily resolved by removing your trigger group and sending it to Accuracy Systems of Byers, Colorado, for a trigger job that will give your Mini an orders of magnitude lighter and smoother-feeling trigger pull which also helps to enhance the accuracy of more current production Minis.
About what does the trigger job cost? I don't feel like I have much trouble with my trigger, but a little lighter pull would be nice if the price is right.
Take care and keep your barrel clean. Bo Leggs.
An Accustrut might help stiffen whippy barrel.
@@cephasmartin8593 you don't have to send your trigger assembly off. If you add an M*Carbo trigger spring, that will reduce your trigger pull to about 4lbs. Also a Wolff hammer spring will assist with shooting cheaper ammo with deep set primers. Just those two springs by themselves make a huge difference. I've also added a Wolff recoil spring and Accu-Strut
M855 (green tip) hasn't always been the best round for accuracy either.
@@cephasmartin8593 -- The trigger job cost me $70 plus postage. A 3.5 to 4.0-lb pull is advertised. I don't have a gauge to measure the pull, but the trigger job made a gigantic improvement. Type Accuracy Systems Byers Colorado into your favorite search engine for current information.
Impressive results from your 30 carbine. If you were to experiment with a few different types of ammo and shoot it from a lead sled I'd bet the groups would shrink dramatically. Add a scope or a red dot and it should be even easier to get some really great groups.
I have nothing against the Mini14. It just often needs a little help in order to keep the accuracy consistent. The target model Ruger produces addresses this and they really shoot well.
The M1 carbine IS a proven battle rifle.... The Ruger mini 14 is NOT.
Just saying.
My Winchester M-1 Carbine with a sliding rear sight would hold 1.5" at 100 yards. My brother's Mini 14 would be about 4". Old 30 rd. Carbine mags don't work. Winchester were forged. Rugers are known for pin holes.
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Just Because It's A 30rd
Mag, U Should Run Only
25rds, That Should Help
With FTF & FTE...
Hanging everything on the middle of the barrel leads to inaccuracy which the MINI is known for.
I have a 585 series mini 30 and wouldn't trade it for anything. I can hit a basketball at 500 yards every shot with open iron sights. Fantastic ruger. Oh one thing. Must use american brass, no tula wolf golden tiger or red army standard foreign ammo unless you put harder hitting firing pin and spring
Your replica M-1 is different than issued. New 15 Mags shoot without a hitch. 30 rd. clips were M-2 issue.
Hey drake enjoyed the video , just a suggestion try the "True Shot Technology " accu strut on the mini 14 it does away with barrel whip .
I have both, they both great rifles.
The biggest thing is that your Mini 14 is not the newer 5800 series the changes to the barrel make a WORLD OF DIFFERENCE in accuracy thanks for the excellent video
I feel like a big problem with the mini 14 besides the thin barrel is the chonky front sight. I think the M1 is still a better rifle but you can get a used ranch rifle in the $5-600 where the M1 commands a higher premium. Good video! Still very much want an M1 carbine but not unhappy with my own mini 14.
This comment didn't age well, haha
Didn't they change all these problems like a decade ago? Seems like everyones talking about all the problems with the older models. Thing definitely beats out the M1 by a long shot no pun intended
I use Carbine loads in my 300 BO for 90 g bullets.
My M1 carbine has never let me down, no jams, no miss fire, Great for house to house combat, and is a WW2 rifle, wan't to do 300 yards plus than do buy a Mine 14.
The ammo is expensive compared to the .223
BTW... the M1 Carbine isn't as magazine sensitive as you imply, you were using a PIECE OF CRAP 30 rounder rather than a decent magazine. Using a junk magazine in any firearm is a recipe for failure....just saying.
Don't know why people keep comparing older Mini 14s to other rifles, yeah the mag mechanics aren't the best but the barrel has been vastly improved.
Every Carbine came with an oiler. I have never seen a reviewer use an oiler.
They both hurt when they shoot you.
Really wish that these "comparisons" and "reviews" used a current Mini platform rather than an older model. Things have changed since the 180 series Minis. I can regularly shoot 1"-1.5" groupings with my Mini 30 at 100-150 yards with both irons and a small red dot.
Hoagie 90 I’ll be happy to do a new review if you will send me your new mini rifle LOL also there’s a big difference between what groups you can get out of the cold barrel and what groups you can get after say 50 rounds fired quickly. Regardless, I don’t have anyone providing me these firearms the are guns I bought with my own money so I can’t make everyone happy.
I just got my first Mini 14 and when sighting it in was shocked how accurate it is shooting ballistic tip 55 gr. bullets. Shooting the FMJ bulk ammo was disappointing to say the least. You're shooting such small groups does not surprise me at all.
@@drdrake63 Basically any Mini-14 made after 2005 is nothing like the old ones in terms of reliability and accuracy, so that's going on almost 20 years ago. I'd grab one man, you can find some for pretty cheap. I know they say not to sell your guns, but I was on a budget and if you're gonna, I sold my old Mini-14 for a 2005 model and i've used it more than any rifle I have ever owned aside from my AR. Way more customizable too, the whole works. Absolutely love it, and literally every issue you had with it in this video would completely disappear even without aftermarket parts. Wouldn't even be a contest. Could you imagine if every M1 was replaced by a mini-14 in WW2? my god it would be unfair lol, it'd be comparable to the Sturmgewehr. Add a full auto option and damn. Guarantee they wouldn't replace a Garand with it though, maybe paratroopers would love it though.
"Regularly shoot 1-1.5 MOA"
Polenar Tactical would like video proof.
Old model Mini14s groups are cut in half with muzzle brakes. I didn't believe it, but tried on several. It's true.
I absolutely believe that the mini needs a different rear sight also
100% agree with this statement
I’ve been searching for one no luck
@@richardmcbride29 I put an XS rear sight on the mini, didn't care for it.
Tech sights are the way to go… www.tech-sights.com/mini-products/
Looks like an early mini. They are notorious for opening up when they heat up. But its an easy fix, at least on mine, with the accu strut.
lol accu strut , aka the junk fixer
LOL, like bondo, but necessary on some projects.
Thanks for another great video.
That vertical stringing you observed with the Mini is one of the things I hate about it. I used to do a lot of shooting with the Carbine as well and it held zero much better when she got warmed up, even with that skinny barrel, as you seem to have noticed.
By the way- gorgeous Carbine! Makes me miss mine.
Peace.
I have a I.A.I 30 carbine assembled in Houston Texas from G.I. parts it's a tack driver at 100 to 150 yards but it does not like the 30 round mags. Also have a stainless mini14 186 mod. I put an accu-strut on it and aftermarket sights and it is also a tack driver haven't brought it out past 200 yards but a 200 it is a 1.5 to 2 Inch shooter so plenty accurate for me and I have used 30 round aftermarket mags from original equipment and haven't had and feed problems
Several years ago I bought a 4 pack of unmarked stainless 20 round mags from Midway for my Mini-14, never had a problem. Maybe I was just lucky.
...the Ruger mini can be had in 556 (223), 300 BLK, and 7.62x39 off the shelf, but can be custom in so may different cartridges such as 6.5 grendel, 6.8 SPC, and now 6mm ARC (maybe the best). and is easier to put on an optic...the M1 carbine is a good cartridge for it's limitations...I would wish a machined M1 carbine like receiver for the Ruger mini for a smaller footprint, using AR mags...the stock mini's barrel is too thin so much barrel whip, and heats up faster (more powder, and faster-hotter burning powder)r so greater down range dispersion of the bullets...
Have the ruger Mini Target rifle. Its accurate as hell.
His 50 yard group was a joke bad shooting not the guns falt
M1 carbine at least the ones I have are accurate
Little tiger is anything but accurate
Good video, I just picked up mini last weekend...183 series. I haven’t ran any ammo through it yet but I am hopeful it satisfies. I’ve had many a feeding problems with the M1...it is a finicky beast when it comes to magazines.
I bought a Series 186 Mini-14, manufactured in 1994, in February. Since I had heard about accuracy concerns with early Mini's I bought an Accu-Strut and an Amega scout rail and installed them before sighting it in, so I don't have a before and after comparison, but what I can tell you is that my Mini shot a 1.5 MOA at 100 metres before I got run off by hungry mosquitoes, so I wasn't able to fine tune it. They say that the newer models with the improved barrel are more accurate. Frankly, I like the looks of the Accu-Strut on my Mini-14.
Take care and keep your barrel clean. Bo Leggs.
That looks like the old mini.....the newer model that I have has a tapered barrel
I owned both and I must say I loved my WWll Carbine.....my Mini -14 just wasn't very accurate
I love both modele, nice video too.
The problems I had with the issue DCM Carbine were moving rear sight, replaced with Simmons Peep sight made for the M-1 Carbine and after about 3 years cracked a bolt lug changed a flat bolt for a round one.
It comes down to preference . Lov Them Both.
Nice video! Great comparison of these two rifles
Try a 580 series or later mini 14. Whole different animal.
I have an original M 1 Winchester WW 2 carbine shoots and works like new great fun gun and very accurate my dad opened the crate in 1964 the gun was in cosmolene it came with 2 10 round and 2 30 round mags the bayonet a stock pouch for the 10 round mags a woven shoulder strap and canvas gun bag not sure of the production date but he said it was military production my dad used it for hog hunting very few rounds fired until
I got it loved it to this day
The MI carbine was made to compete with the German 9mm sub guns . The comparison should be .30 to 9mm . The .30 was far superior and full auto did not make it a better weapon being to hard to control the bursts. Quick fast and light made the MI CARBINE perfect ! The German paratroops had 9mm sub guns , the US found MI carbines jump worthy and even had a folding stock MIAI , just for the paras .
I have 2 30 round mags for the M1 Carbine, both function flawlessly.
The one in the video was old an rusty. I suspect that or damage over the years or rust on the spring has effected it's performance.
I’m for the M1 carbine. Audie Murphy!!
That mag was overloaded at 29 rounds. I believe it is actually a 25 round magazine.
How about them French fried puhtaters, Karl?
M1 carbine? I have a 30 mag and I have no trouble pushing 3 - 10 round stripper clips right in.
I saw a test of the M1 Carbine. It made a small hole going in but a huge exit hole.
You're missing the M14 and the BM-59 in that line up
I'd love to get me a bm59.
USE A ORIGINAL 30 ROUND MAG IN THE CARBINE THAT WAS MILITARY ISSUE IN THE .30 CARBINE AND IT WILL NOT HANG UP HALF WAY OF THE MAG.
Put up a new target about every 5 shots net time so we can tell what the hell is shooting where. A 4 power scope would be good too.
I love my postal meter carbine. I can hit anything I can see.
por favor, traduzcan, en LATINO AMERICANO O EN ESPAÑOS, Pongan el letras bien visible, Si no es en vano que lo publiquen
Never used the word failure in regards to the Mini 14. Not ever.
If you look closely at the mag that was mis feeding you will probably find that one or both lips are bent incorrectly from years of rough use.
Mag was overloaded. He had 29 rounds in there , but it's a 25 round mag i believe.
a better comparison would be the M1 carbine to the mini in either 300 BLK or 7.62x39 ... another video would be great ...the FULTON ARMORY M1 carbine is really great for $2200...
the M1 carbine does NOT shoot a pistol round. It shoots a 7.62×33mm which is CLEARLY not a pistol round but a CARBINE sized round.
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Your all wrong about why the M1 carbine rifle was cycled so much at the QC phase of assembly. It was done to insure that it would cycle repeatedly, not for break in. Cast over to the left? Your the one canting the rifle, not the rifle.
The new Inland carbines are hit and miss. Contrary to your remarks on break in, the rifle should have been working when it went into the box and should be able to run dry. Your using the wrong ammunition in your Mini14. You should be using a 55gr bullet. The heavier bullet requires a faster twist rate than the Mini14 comes with. Your also wrong about the M1 Carbine being quickly and cheaply made. It like the M1 Garand, BAR, M1919A3, M2 .50 machine gun were designed for mass production at the volume that they were produced. They weren't cheep to build. What was 40.00 in 1941 in today's money? I have 4 M14 rifles built on forged recivers today. I broke 2 Springfield armory M1A recivers shoot 2,000 plus rounds a month through them. The only reason I have a investment cast reciver Mini14 is because that's the only way it comes. I'd say if you shoot that carbine enough you'll have problems with it.
Hold the gun right. Also good vid. BY THE WAY UR TAKING THAT TO SCHOOL BRO U GOT ON UR SCHOOL BACKPACK. Edit great vid keep up the good work
I'm sure it's irrelevant, but if it handles the 5.56 then it's chambered in 5.56 officially. If it's only chambered in 2.23 it will not take 5.56.
Bet you have that magazine spring in backwards?
Like others, have and love them both. Well…. Ok, LOVE the Carbine and only love the mini. 5 gal bucket has no chance at 280yds with the Carbine, very predictable rifle, perfect reliability and somewhat important, the more “shootable” rifle. The mini can be a bit intimidating .002 seconds after pulling that trigger due the time compressing muzzle blast when compared to The Carbine.
You did the work, great video! I would NOT feel under equipped if armed with the little M1.
There's a reason this piece (M1 Carbine) came with oil and a place to get at it fastkilokn...this piece was made to be operated wet with oil😉👍
Beautiful piece...
Thinking I must of had one in a previous life...?😎👍👍
I HAVE had a m1a 30 cal for years.
It shoots fantastic and I have group 10 rds at 150 yrds for 2 in to.4 inch . I think it would fun tion better with someone with better vision . Buy dont think that's bad.
Mine says SAGINAW. All the num match. Great little weapon.
Plus i HAVE a m1 Garand and all their numbers match. It is a Springfield. 18 rds at 40 yrds out of 20 rds.just kicked ass
I'm sold and so happy. Haven't been this happy since my last orgasm . IT BEEN A WHILE ... LOL,,,,LMO. PLEASE FORGIVE ME.
Alonza Hanks
Alonza Hanks
2 hours ago (edited)
The Secret Of The M1 Carbine...
In War with people Shooting at you , It was to easy to pick up a Garand.
But you guys have got no excuses.
The 30 Carbine Round is a 32 magnum tapered to a 30 cal.
To this Day The only Strait Walled Wildcat of all time.
Even CMP says we dont go over 200 yards because of bullet drop.
Thats Sad !!!!!
They cant see the bullet is a foot high at 250 setting or 2 1/2 feet high on 300 yard setting .
look at the gap between 250 and 300.
1 look At the carbine sights and I knew they were Tommy gun sights .
But the increments were right on at 100 and 200 yards and followed suit except for gap between 250 and 300 yards.
I imediately grabbed a center punch and eyeballed the gap and then drilled a notch
for the bearing to grab worked good .
I grabbed a office chair and targets and ducktape and headed for the hills
with my contractors wheel measure .
My sons carried them out to 900 feet 300 yards forgot the tape and left targets rolled up
on ground about 4 inches tall, I told them forget it that will do.
We took turns shooting the seat 21 shots in 1 foot group 3 fliers 2 nicked the side with 2 and
put 1 in bottom of seat .
I took 3 shots at the 4 inch roll of targets landing all 3
It was raining and wind was blowing and i had a spring flue ,
I called it a day...
I went out yesterday and did 1 foot groups at 4 and 500 yards on my 400 notch i put in .
and a magazine at 500 yards at 1500 feet .
missed 1 shot on paper both being 1 foot groups
So guys Your 250 is 300 yards on the money.
center of the gap between 250 and 300 is 400 yards dead nuts on .
and the 300 yard mark rear notch dead on at 500 yards .
I could do head shots at 500 yards and be very productive.
Just take your time until sights steady on target.
Patience is a marksmen!!!!!
I cannot Believe it took 80 years to figure this out
in Korea at 300 yards they were putting rounds 2 feet above their heads and yes
they kept coming .
If they would have used the 250 yard mark at 300 yards they would have blown their
heads off.
To top off my day I had a piece of galvanized square tubing 5 inches tall 4 inches wide of 1/8th inch thick painted light orange .
carried it to the 500 yard target and walked back thinking it would take a thirty round mag to hit it.
I hit it with 1 shot and tumbled it .
walked back out and got it.
The bullet punched the first side and stretched out the second side like 1 1/2 inches,
like grabbing your tee shirt with 2 fingers and pulling it out 1 1/2 inches .
the bullet was a flat 1/2 inch wide piece of lead and copper ring on back
laying were the tumbled tube was at .
So HUAH gets the job done at 500 yards.
So now I am setting here with the shakes Totally in love With my scoped
Plainfield Commando Paratrooper.
I played dress up and picked up a M2 stock bought a set of sights steel air cooled
hand guard
and extra steel spring stock on ebay lol.
to shoot the M1 carbine the way the GIs did
and its like I brought home a new puppy and have to love it too .
Even being a unruly pup and kicking as hard as my M1 Garand .
Im gona have to buy another carbine so I dont have to switch the sights back and forth .
God help me
I was going to buy a folding Choate stock too.
Im blaming all you guys on the youtube CMP and all you US military And carbine owners.
For not figuring this out a long time ago.
Ive owned my scoped carbine since 1980.
Where 1 goes We all go.
And it wont be prying my cold dead fingers off of it .
It will be over their DEAD BODIES !
I call my Carbine my Rockola The Bitch.
I call my M1 Garand Devil Dog Shooting Team Rifle Krissy
after my wife .
Shes the Hottie from which there is no Escape.
Oh Yeah !!!
Have used both the 30 cal M-1 Carbine and Ruger Mini-14.....Fun Guns...!!!
If I had to fight urban warfare where the enemy is 100 yards or less I would want the M-1 Carbine over the SP1AR-15 and would also prefer the Mini -14 over the SP1 AR-15 ! Just don't like the SP1 AR-15 sights ! 1st choice M-1Carbine it's lighter with a 110 grn slug and more accurate!
Buy both.
I prefer my Standard Products WWII MI carbine. It's battle tested. But that doesn't diminish the Mini 14.
Correct which sister/which brother...for most it's cost...I own both....my 1st rifle was the 30carbine...dad said he used it in WWII...it will kill with bullet placement and hollow points...let get those deer...so we did
you lost me with the rapid firing at the gun range. I realized there is nothing I can learn from you.
You are comparing completely different types of weapons. The M1 carbine was developed as a replacement for the 1911. It was intended for service personnel (cooks,truck drivers, laundry men,maintenance, ) non combat troops. The 5.56 was created for infantry. When USA bureau of ordnance showed Stoner the 5.56 he said that it would be unrepentant. Due to the ball powder used.
The Ruger mini 14 rear sights suck! They are cheap plastic, and do not stay fixed! They are loose, and you do not get a consistent sight picture, as the rear sights will move! Even the after market sights suck, for the same reason! Why in the hell doesn't Ruger, and or the after market sights come in al l"STEEL"?!!! No, they put the cheapest material they can come up with! I had a mini 14, and at a hundred yards, it would group about 8 -10 inches, and some times a little less. Solely because of the sights! Never had a feeding problem, or failure to eject, or other problems, just that it was not as accurate as it could be. A Friend of mine had a brand new one, and it shot the same. He wasn't pleased with the performance either. I would not want to depend on it for survival, in any situation, where any distance of any measure was involved! Would I buy another mini? NO! Maybe a way to get a floating bsrrel, would improve the acuracy some. But it still would require some real rear sights, instead of the toy ones Ruger seems determined to use! Since Ruger still has it's head up it's lower orifice, hopefully someday some of the after market companies will make an all steel sight that is a direct copy of the M14! Then I might think about buying another mini14. I would like a .30 cal, in the 7.62 by 39, or if Ruger would make a real "Mini 14" in .308.! But if the sights are not better than the cheap crap that is on them, no deal! Oh well, I would not be surprised to see Ruger go to the dark side, and partner with China! They make cheap plastic parts also! I only consider the mini 14, a plinker anyway, due to it's caliber. I isn't even a good coyote, or other pest rifle, due to it's cheap poor qulaity rear sights, and poor accuracy!
I had a M1 Carbine but like a total idiot I sold it back in 1974, now I have a Ranch Rifle and I will not repeat my stupidity of '74'. Pew- Pew- Pew ---Enjoy!