We used to have lots of intelligent craftsmen not too long ago. Now when you're clever, they tell you not to work with your hands but sit in an office somewhere. A university degree is the highest achievement there is, they say. There is a great need for people who like to work with their hands and can think for themselves. Thanks for showing us Robin.
@@retardedamericans1 That trick of taking what someone says and then adding "Are you saying" before making your own statement is a verbal trick intended to trap someone into arguing a point they did not make. You should find another sport. Of course he is not saying that. His premise is clear and well stated. Society tells people who show signs of being clever to pursue another career and that acts as a filter. The building industry suffers as a consequence of this.
Absolutely agree. I have a degree and am now a maths teacher. For the last 2 years I’ve been going to college and have earned a City and Guilds L2 Carpentry Diploma. For a degree and subsequent office job you need to be docile and compliant. It has very little to do with intelligence. It’s a real shame that we view manual work as low skilled. I use my brain doing Carpentry far more than any of the office jobs I ever had.
Love it Robin! The Bible says..... " Have you seen a man skillful at his work ? He will stand before Kings , He will not stand before common men. " .....also, consider this prophecy in Scripture....." They will build houses and live in them, And they will plant vineyards and eat their fruitage, ........ Proverbs 22 :29 and Isaiah 65:21 Highest Regards, Lisa
@@thecuttingsark5094 yes I agree all the buildings in the early years 1800 etc builders,well I know Bricklayers could not read and some could not write,and look at all the amazing buildings in town centres churches cathedrals etc,not many if any were not educated 🤔
prime example of working smarter not harder, but then again construction is always hard work so every bit of ingenuity helps the hard work along nicely, well done
Cracking little jig. I make my template raffter out of ply to save lugging around an 8x2 or similar. Will definitely use this idea on my next roof. Keep up the good work Robin.
Excellent Video, Very well explained. Few years back.. Fortunately, I met someone, a Woodworking mentor, who improved my life. Keep up the good work! Will wait for your next video.
I’d give my right arm to be taught how to cut a roof by you Robin. Absolute class! I may not be able to cut a roof afterwards having one arm mind but being able to pass on that knowledge would be almost as good! As always great videos mate!
Nice trick! But i guess you forget to mention the best thing about it... If you reference off of the edge of the beam, you’ll be in trouble if there is bow in the wood. By using this method you have your ‘straight’ referenced off of the template. Much better! Thanks Robin!
Robin i bet u got shed loads of these ideas....u gotta share em with us mear mortals...ive used the 1 with cuttin angles on a table saw so simple but pure genious...u legend👍
"Buy my skills and my knowledge" you said it brother! We're artists, and it takes years of education, hard work and experience to learn our crafts. Nice jig by the way!
I have done this to do repetition cuts . Your space for the saw was really good. Whe I did I did it I got slagged off for waste of material (ply) but those people never come and say they were wrong. Two marking videos and I'm subscribed . That marking is key. You are good mate.
I just scab 2 blocks of 4x2( at the plumb cut and birds mouth) onto the outside of the template rafter ..pull it in mark up ...left blade wormdrive and cut . Great video !!
Great idea for the template with a circular saw-probably a lot more applications for a template for a battery saw. On a separate issue, you asked me to let you know if I bought the Metabo battery table saw when we met at FFX Tool show. After some deliberation, we could see that the guide fence on the saw was always going out of square each time it was moved-a problem we had with our previous site saw. I bought the DeWalt DWE7485 which has a pinion based side fence which seems to keep square without any effort.
Hi Mark We are really amused by the way we get the thumbs down on every single video we make. There are people out there who find fault with everything and I can't imagine they are fun to live with.
@@SkillBuilder No I guess that's more from people who don't want your videos recommended by that RUclips algorithm. Nothing to do with the quality or content of your videos, which are outstanding. But it's a very negative apporoach to click thumbs down all the time, agreed.
I have no arms due two a works accident but would love for you to show me how two cut in these roofing beams. Sometimes I have too headbutt nails in it hurts but it gets the job done.!!
Sir Robin, I say sir Robin because you're top quality and if things go well I'm inviting you to Jamaica to put a second floor on a small house my late mother left for me, so keep on keeping on.💙👊😎
I do something similar for my plumb and seat cuts for fascia and soffit. I’m make a saw track and screw a block at the appropriate angle then when I pull a string line thru tite I just line up the temp and clamp then cut them. I’d have to go along and mark them anyway so this saves a load of time on a big roof.
DP JOINERY pull the line behind the track, it gets pretty decent results. I started doing it because I was fitting anthracite plastic fascia and it showed every single deviation along the 15 meter length
@@benchippy8039 but wouldn't pulling a taught string be difficult to do that? i don't doubt you whatsoever, but i'll be honest i haven't found a quicker method other than plumbing down with a boat level off the string.
DP JOINERY it’s not been an issue that I’ve noticed but I’ve only started doing it on the last 2 roofs, and the track/jig I’m running my saw down is only 60 mm or so. It has saved time on the large roof but it was more about getting that laser straight accuracy as the first roof I used it on was a bungalow with a loft conversion and when stood in the garden the fascia line is at eye level and having every foot cut at exactly the same angle was crucial in my opinion. I’ve been cutting to a plumb line forever and it’s never been an issue before recently
@@benchippy8039 i know how you mean, fascias look terrible at low level like a mexican wave some i've seen. If the spar feet are on a twist i usually cut them with a hand saw too. Hey Ben Chippy i went on your page to see if you have any videos (the heading made me laugh) Have you ever thought about making some? I wouldn't mind making some if i wasn't so camera shy and spoke proper English instead of proper Yorkshire.
An Excellent tutorial, is there a reason you could not clamp all your rafters together then run the saw at the angles you need or is this too fiddly do you think? I would love to see you do a flat resin roof from start to finish.
Im no carpenter but coukdnt you of just got all 30 lenghts on a bench, strike a line where all cuts are, of course for each cut you'd have to modify your saw but youd be cutting all 30 at once? Obviously nail some batten through so theyre all level. Is this good or not?
We use a piece of scrap of whatever we are using for rafters, cut one side with the pitch run down about a foot cut the birds beak with rafter tail. It's about two feet long. Great for when cutting jack rafters. Or we cut one rafter make sure it fits perfect. Mark it as the template and scribe the rest with that.
Well done Sherlock. The sequence of filming is not always as it happens in real life. The cameraman had to go to the dentist. It happens and nothing about that changes the point of the video. You don't have to use the template
What a load of ploava. I've been framing for 25 years. If I brought that on the job??¿?. I rely on my hand skills. But each to their own. A good video fellow Carpenter
I'm a little surprised by the over cut, I don't allow that on my jobs. But the jig is an amazing thought by itself. Never over cut a rafters birds mouth or allow it on stairs stringers either. The concept of this video is brilliant.
When doing a cut roof that few hours prep work getting your wallplates straight and level .then your ridge level.you dont think your getting anywhere then as soon as the rafters are all cut the roo is up in no time . Theres just something immensly satisfying about it which you dont get from any other first fixing!
Incredibly well explained and presented. Enjoyed watching a 2nd time. 08:10 best bit! Roger asking what we are all thinking! It doesn't make sense and how's that going to work!
I like it! Pattern/templates are only good when wall plates and purlin's are bang on level, plumb and parallel, am I right? Gonna be using this tip on my next (big) roof! Thank you!
How come I never get brilliant builders to come round and work on my House like Roger and Robin. Imagine if they turned up at your front Door. I’d be straight on my nee’s saying there is a God.
Ronnie Wilson oh! Mate, you're not the only one who thinks that way, had our kitchen revamped last year and when they finished it was in a worse mess than when they started absolute Cowboys! What I'd give for Roger to put it right....
Know your feeling - I'm DIYing an extension because I'm sick of looking at trades work and thinking "I could have done that better". Totally different watching this channel - I watched Robin's other roofing video last week and 1) He'd lost me within 5 minutes and 2) His work was impeccable
hermand Just remember the golden rule "Measure Twice, Cut Once" when ever there's a job to do around our home now I see if Roger has produced a video then once we're confident my wife & I tackle the job, I've got severe spinal injuries so I'm in a advisers roll
I think Ronnie Wilson has struck a cord. I've just moved from Ewell to Southport and it's the same here. Had an upstairs bay, rosemary tiles, and window changed. I thought I'd employ builder's for a proper job. In all honesty, I wish I'd done it myself. I ended up acting like the clerk of works, or a finishing foreman, chasing them up all the time.
Everybody always wants quality!!, but most aren’t willing to pay for it..!! The majority of potential New customers I meet balk at my prices.. Until they have been sufficiently screwed enough by ‘cheaper’ contractors!! Then they’re willing to pay anything to get the damage reversed..! You’d think people would be more willing to pay more/hr for repairs & maintenance on their most valuable asset (their house for most people) than they would on their most expensive liability (for most, their vehicles)...
Hi Skillbuilder. I'm Dutch and I'm following your channel for a while now and I've seen all this rafter video's and I keep wondering about this type of roof construction. The thing is, that I've never seen this type of construction over here? In the Netherlands I've only seen pitch roof constructions with purlins, we call them "gordingen". We have rafters, but mostly only one halfway for supporting the purlins for the long span. Is this rafter type construction typically English or are other construction types used as well in Britain? Just curious. Greetings form the Netherlands.
I love this idea. For myself though i know I should write an arrow down next to the guide edge so i know which direction to cut. Sometimes when im cutting alot production style i switch directions between cuts to keep my movement down but if i did that on the end cut here my rafter could be a couple inches too short.
its a nice idea... but in reality in how often is the ridge board parallel to the wall plate. There will definitely be a time and place when making a template like this comes into its own though for sure.
Great trick. if you can can you do a review on those goggles ,that you were wearing they look like they would protect your eyes from any dust, so please share some info on that . God bless
If the wall isn't straight then straighten the wall. Don't ever go custom cutting rafters Rafters are always cut identical so between ridge and eave the roof is parallel and the same goes for the rafter tails Above anything else all the rafter tails must be the same so the soffet boards are even and parallel all the way around. Same goes for the facia board... if you cut the tail you increase the height of the facia board. What the hell do you do then... and don't tell me rip a wider board with a tapered width. I had an old timer when I was breaking in, rip off with great prejudice, 4 courses of roofing I put down because i didn't bother to climb to the ridge to snap a line center and square on a piece of roof way the fuck up there that only the birds would see... and I became a much better carpenter from getting lessons like that Remember, all the framing work shows up in the finish trim, especially with cornice work... and good design, layout and framing uses dimension lumber for the trim... 1" or 5/4 x 3 1/2, 5 1/2 or 7 1/2. Take it off the pile have the painter prime it then nail it up if you did it right. If you're doing reno work and the existing house is out of level don't worry about that. Just leave the level in the truck and take measurements off the floor. The eyeball can't discern if something is a little out of level, but things not parallel jump out at the eye. Then it's up to the mechanic to install windows and doors plumb and square, making up the difference in the finish trim. But new construction start with a deck level and square and from there it will be new jack city. Even if the mason or concrete man fucked up the foundation, the framers job is a square and level house. Frame the box square and let it hang over wherever it does. On a 2x8 plate 1 1/2" is fine. Any more have the foundation guy come back and fix it. Once they came up with 2x8 concrete brick from the footing. But usually its not that bad Once the deck is framed go around and level the corners then pull a string and shim it level, going back to grout under the plate later. The really old timer I knew in 1980 talked about using any old enamel saucer half filled with water and level the deck that way. Mac still had his in his van. He said the special feature was the blue ring about 1" down on the inside. They had no spirit levels then so they would plumb the walls using 3-4-5, and parallel from there. Less tools, more old practices, these guys were really quick If you really think about it the basics of most building practices haven't changed since the Egyptians, or whomever, built the Pyramids Tbe biggest problems arise when some shoe maker framer/builder follows the foundation no matter what. This other time we chased an over 2 1/2" out of square corner through the kitchen, a bath and onto the roof with some elaborate cornice design... we're talking special cuts for sheathing cabinets, counter tops, floor tile, cornice and a line of disappearing roof shingle going up the eave visible when you pulled in the driveway. What a fucking nightmare. Everybody hated that shit and it took forever to get through it and all the subs muthafukked my boss about all the money they lost. Worst part... he hired me as a journey man sub, at 30 years old I had the skills and tools to match. He was the same age but had very little time working alongside the old school guys... use to brag he worked his first job for 3 years then went out on his own... though he showed respect for my work and always was asking me why I wasn't working for myself. That was until we came to this fucked up corner and at first I was very polite telling him like I was teaching him something new (and I was cuz common sense had failed him) to hang it over and jamb a leg under it and get the mason back. Then he got pissy like his ego was bruised in front of his men but every time we got jammed up there I kept my mouth shut but his boys didn't. Got to the point where he wouldn't even ask me to work anywhere near that section And I dont even have the time or space to tell you the story of the roof he fukd on the next job and the terse words exchanged when I was laying out the garage roof with a dormer of unequal pitch and a true valley he asked me to cut Another time Build it level straight and square at the start then let it take you from there
I’m a huge fan of templates/patterns. But you just have to make sure there is enough repetitive work to be done to make the time spent and the cost of materials making it, worth the effort.
This guy is great. One thing I want to put out there. Problem with seeing the cut line. I found out the line matches up with the center of the safety blade cover. So instead of watching the blade, I look down the safety cover and keep it lined up with the line. Get less sawdust in my eyes.
nice one robin, i usually lay the pattern rafter on top as a template but this is a much better option ! fair play for sharing your knowledge, i do cut roofs quite frequently but i dont tell the other chippys much about how i do it lol
We used to have lots of intelligent craftsmen not too long ago. Now when you're clever, they tell you not to work with your hands but sit in an office somewhere. A university degree is the highest achievement there is, they say. There is a great need for people who like to work with their hands and can think for themselves. Thanks for showing us Robin.
@@retardedamericans1 That trick of taking what someone says and then adding "Are you saying" before making your own statement is a verbal trick intended to trap someone into arguing a point they did not make. You should find another sport. Of course he is not saying that.
His premise is clear and well stated. Society tells people who show signs of being clever to pursue another career and that acts as a filter. The building industry suffers as a consequence of this.
Absolutely agree. I have a degree and am now a maths teacher. For the last 2 years I’ve been going to college and have earned a City and Guilds L2 Carpentry Diploma. For a degree and subsequent office job you need to be docile and compliant. It has very little to do with intelligence. It’s a real shame that we view manual work as low skilled. I use my brain doing Carpentry far more than any of the office jobs I ever had.
@@thecuttingsark5094 couldnt agree more
Love it Robin! The Bible says..... " Have you seen a man skillful at his work ? He will stand before Kings , He will not stand before common men. " .....also, consider this prophecy in Scripture....." They will build houses and live in them, And they will plant vineyards and eat their fruitage, ........ Proverbs 22 :29 and Isaiah 65:21 Highest Regards, Lisa
@@thecuttingsark5094 yes I agree all the buildings in the early years 1800 etc builders,well I know Bricklayers could not read and some could not write,and look at all the amazing buildings in town centres churches cathedrals etc,not many if any were not educated 🤔
Robins masterclass ! MORE PLEASE SIR .
prime example of working smarter not harder, but then again construction is always hard work so every bit of ingenuity helps the hard work along nicely, well done
Brilliant video Robin!
Cheers Stakker!!!
Robin and Roger ... what a great team.
Cracking little jig. I make my template raffter out of ply to save lugging around an 8x2 or similar. Will definitely use this idea on my next roof. Keep up the good work Robin.
Robin I have to say your a Top quality Carpenter. Very neat and stop on. 👍👏
dirty girl you meant .. ‘spot on’!
@@RI-uv3lm ha yea . Thanks Rajesh
Very nice idea. Well done
More like this please!
Great idea. Well done Robin.
great one as always. thank you good man.
Very creative - Thanks !
Excellent Video, Very well explained.
Few years back.. Fortunately, I met someone, a Woodworking mentor, who improved my life.
Keep up the good work! Will wait for your next video.
That's the beauty of a template massive time saver and all the parts are same (great job) !!
Nice time saving trick and higher accuracy also. I will use this. Thank you for the video.
I just love watching you work Robin!
You clearly know your game!!
Amazing idea. Cheers Robin!
Excellent idea!
I’d give my right arm to be taught how to cut a roof by you Robin. Absolute class! I may not be able to cut a roof afterwards having one arm mind but being able to pass on that knowledge would be almost as good! As always great videos mate!
Fantastic mate
Nice trick! But i guess you forget to mention the best thing about it...
If you reference off of the edge of the beam, you’ll be in trouble if there is bow in the wood. By using this method you have your ‘straight’ referenced off of the template. Much better!
Thanks Robin!
It's master class Robin and Roger thank you for your wonderful work
Robin i bet u got shed loads of these ideas....u gotta share em with us mear mortals...ive used the 1 with cuttin angles on a table saw so simple but pure genious...u legend👍
Great video again more like this please
Great idea 👍👍👍
"Buy my skills and my knowledge" you said it brother! We're artists, and it takes years of education, hard work and experience to learn our crafts.
Nice jig by the way!
We do that type of template for cedar rafter roofs, or octagon roof systems when you need to be perfect. Nice job across the pond..!
Send some pictures Joe. We are very keen to see what you are up to in Cape Cod
I have done this to do repetition cuts . Your space for the saw was really good. Whe I did I did it I got slagged off for waste of material (ply) but those people never come and say they were wrong. Two marking videos and I'm subscribed . That marking is key. You are good mate.
I use Milwaukee! The saw blade is in the left hand side of the motor so you can see the blade cutting 👍🏻
Great vid, many thanks for posting.
I just scab 2 blocks of 4x2( at the plumb cut and birds mouth) onto the outside of the template rafter ..pull it in mark up ...left blade wormdrive and cut . Great video !!
I must try a worm drive!!! I also do your trick!!
Brilliant, exactly what I need for an upcoming job!
One of the best thing I have learned! Thank you so much for sharing!
Brilliant, not just a carpenter but a thinker too! 👍
If only more builders had such a positive attitude the whole trade would have a better reputation. Cheers for showing me a new idea.
Thanks Tony, funnily enough, we have a podcast going out tonight all about attitude and work ethics.
I really love the way you share your knowledge to improve the industry, we need some of this in OZ. Cheers
Great trick!
Great idea for the template with a circular saw-probably a lot more applications for a template for a battery saw. On a separate issue, you asked me to let you know if I bought the Metabo battery table saw when we met at FFX Tool show. After some deliberation, we could see that the guide fence on the saw was always going out of square each time it was moved-a problem we had with our previous site saw. I bought the DeWalt DWE7485 which has a pinion based side fence which seems to keep square without any effort.
You already had a template ! , The time it took you to make that thing you could have done half of them already !
Awesome , really like this .......................
Farkin' brilliant, dude.
I like it, great idea.
You're an artist Sir Robin
I love the way six people have given this the "Thumbs Down". There are some tools out there that Dewalt dont make...
Hi Mark
We are really amused by the way we get the thumbs down on every single video we make. There are people out there who find fault with everything and I can't imagine they are fun to live with.
Haha good one Mark.
@@SkillBuilder No I guess that's more from people who don't want your videos recommended by that RUclips algorithm. Nothing to do with the quality or content of your videos, which are outstanding. But it's a very negative apporoach to click thumbs down all the time, agreed.
i wish id seen this video 25 years ago !
very well though out method
I have no arms due two a works accident but would love for you to show me how two cut in these roofing beams. Sometimes I have too headbutt nails in it hurts but it gets the job done.!!
This program is much better than the one about that old house.
Robin just may make it as a carpenter one day...lol....Nice advice as always.
that is very clever
Good to hear from you, how's the new workshop performing for you?
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Going great thnak you. Just wish it was twice as big.
Sir Robin, I say sir Robin because you're top quality and if things go well I'm inviting you to Jamaica to put a second floor on a small house my late mother left for me, so keep on keeping on.💙👊😎
Robin will be up for that, won't you Robin?... Robin where are you?
@@SkillBuilder thanks for the support.💙👊😎
👍Smooth as well clever trick first class tradesman👍
Chainsaws are ace for framing roofs!!!!.
I do something similar for my plumb and seat cuts for fascia and soffit. I’m make a saw track and screw a block at the appropriate angle then when I pull a string line thru tite I just line up the temp and clamp then cut them. I’d have to go along and mark them anyway so this saves a load of time on a big roof.
How do you not end up not cutting the string line?
DP JOINERY pull the line behind the track, it gets pretty decent results. I started doing it because I was fitting anthracite plastic fascia and it showed every single deviation along the 15 meter length
@@benchippy8039 but wouldn't pulling a taught string be difficult to do that? i don't doubt you whatsoever, but i'll be honest i haven't found a quicker method other than plumbing down with a boat level off the string.
DP JOINERY it’s not been an issue that I’ve noticed but I’ve only started doing it on the last 2 roofs, and the track/jig I’m running my saw down is only 60 mm or so. It has saved time on the large roof but it was more about getting that laser straight accuracy as the first roof I used it on was a bungalow with a loft conversion and when stood in the garden the fascia line is at eye level and having every foot cut at exactly the same angle was crucial in my opinion. I’ve been cutting to a plumb line forever and it’s never been an issue before recently
@@benchippy8039 i know how you mean, fascias look terrible at low level like a mexican wave some i've seen. If the spar feet are on a twist i usually cut them with a hand saw too.
Hey Ben Chippy i went on your page to see if you have any videos (the heading made me laugh)
Have you ever thought about making some? I wouldn't mind making some if i wasn't so camera shy and spoke proper English instead of proper Yorkshire.
An Excellent tutorial, is there a reason you could not clamp all your rafters together then run the saw at the angles you need or is this too fiddly do you think? I would love to see you do a flat resin roof from start to finish.
Clamping together is done a lot on the continent and it works really well. We should try it
Nice
Im no carpenter but coukdnt you of just got all 30 lenghts on a bench, strike a line where all cuts are, of course for each cut you'd have to modify your saw but youd be cutting all 30 at once? Obviously nail some batten through so theyre all level. Is this good or not?
Love it !!!!!
I had no idea what you were doing by tracing your saws base, lol. What a great idea
that's one way to do it. Cheers.
Top man!
genius
Thank you. How to calculate the corner rafter if the outline of the house has angles not 90 degrees?
We use a piece of scrap of whatever we are using for rafters, cut one side with the pitch run down about a foot cut the birds beak with rafter tail. It's about two feet long. Great for when cutting jack rafters. Or we cut one rafter make sure it fits perfect. Mark it as the template and scribe the rest with that.
There were loads of rafters already cut in the background before the template was made ?
Well done Sherlock. The sequence of filming is not always as it happens in real life. The cameraman had to go to the dentist. It happens and nothing about that changes the point of the video. You don't have to use the template
Genius!
What if your building or wall plate is slightly out and you needed to extend the plumb cut at the top
What a load of ploava.
I've been framing for 25 years. If I brought that on the job??¿?.
I rely on my hand skills.
But each to their own. A good video fellow Carpenter
I'm a little surprised by the over cut, I don't allow that on my jobs. But the jig is an amazing thought by itself. Never over cut a rafters birds mouth or allow it on stairs stringers either. The concept of this video is brilliant.
A small overcut on a rafter that size and span is nothing. People shit themselves over this and it's really really not a big deal.
@@dimebagdarrel00 Sorry dude, you're just not that professional, I'd fire you at the end of the day.
When doing a cut roof that few hours prep work getting your wallplates straight and level .then your ridge level.you dont think your getting anywhere then as soon as the rafters are all cut the roo is up in no time . Theres just something immensly satisfying about it which you dont get from any other first fixing!
Agreed! It's so satisfying, Great comment!
Makita have a 36v blade left saw (not like worm drive one) not out in UK but think it's coming soon. Might help the old neck!
Henry J I’ve got it mate, imported from the states. £200 landed, well worth it!
Freaking proper smart👍
I like it !
Seafty googles aren't safe when you didn't see through them.
Thank you for another great tip video.
Nice!
Incredibly well explained and presented. Enjoyed watching a 2nd time.
08:10 best bit!
Roger asking what we are all thinking! It doesn't make sense and how's that going to work!
I like it! Pattern/templates are only good when wall plates and purlin's are bang on level, plumb and parallel, am I right? Gonna be using this tip on my next (big) roof! Thank you!
How come I never get brilliant builders to come round and work on my House like Roger and Robin. Imagine if they turned up at your front Door. I’d be straight on my nee’s saying there is a God.
Ronnie Wilson oh! Mate, you're not the only one who thinks that way, had our kitchen revamped last year and when they finished it was in a worse mess than when they started absolute Cowboys! What I'd give for Roger to put it right....
Know your feeling - I'm DIYing an extension because I'm sick of looking at trades work and thinking "I could have done that better". Totally different watching this channel - I watched Robin's other roofing video last week and 1) He'd lost me within 5 minutes and 2) His work was impeccable
hermand Just remember the golden rule "Measure Twice, Cut Once" when ever there's a job to do around our home now I see if Roger has produced a video then once we're confident my wife & I tackle the job, I've got severe spinal injuries so I'm in a advisers roll
I think Ronnie Wilson has struck a cord.
I've just moved from Ewell to Southport and it's the same here.
Had an upstairs bay, rosemary tiles, and window changed. I thought I'd employ builder's for a proper job.
In all honesty, I wish I'd done it myself.
I ended up acting like the clerk of works, or a finishing foreman, chasing them up all the time.
Everybody always wants quality!!, but most aren’t willing to pay for it..!! The majority of potential New customers I meet balk at my prices.. Until they have been sufficiently screwed enough by ‘cheaper’ contractors!! Then they’re willing to pay anything to get the damage reversed..!
You’d think people would be more willing to pay more/hr for repairs & maintenance on their most valuable asset (their house for most people) than they would on their most expensive liability (for most, their vehicles)...
Would love to see a video on hips and valleys
It's coming!!!!
Hi Skillbuilder. I'm Dutch and I'm following your channel for a while now and I've seen all this rafter video's and I keep wondering about this type of roof construction. The thing is, that I've never seen this type of construction over here? In the Netherlands I've only seen pitch roof constructions with purlins, we call them "gordingen".
We have rafters, but mostly only one halfway for supporting the purlins for the long span.
Is this rafter type construction typically English or are other construction types used as well in Britain? Just curious. Greetings form the Netherlands.
I love this idea. For myself though i know I should write an arrow down next to the guide edge so i know which direction to cut. Sometimes when im cutting alot production style i switch directions between cuts to keep my movement down but if i did that on the end cut here my rafter could be a couple inches too short.
By the time he built that , I could of bang out 30 rafters, great idea well done lads
That's because you're awesome Andy, keep that up!
Nice job just hope the bricky set the wall plates square with ridge 🤪
Why not stack them all in a row on edge, snap chalk lines for each cut then just gang cut all at once?
Try that yourself one time. You'll never try it again, you'll see why.
@@avgjoe-cz7cb it's how I cut them haha, what bit do you find hard?
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Just a suggestion , buy a sidewinder saw (Skilsaw wormdrive) its designed for righties.
Q “What are you gonna do with that time”
A “record a bloody podcast!”
Love it!!!
its a nice idea... but in reality in how often is the ridge board parallel to the wall plate. There will definitely be a time and place when making a template like this comes into its own though for sure.
Great trick. if you can can you do a review on those goggles ,that you were wearing they look like they would protect your eyes from any dust, so please share some info on that . God bless
Robert Gonzalez Can you show how to make the framing square Stop
@@victorboyd9881 I'd like to see that too!
What tool pouch and belt does Robin use? Cheers
Ty MTB What’s the G on your framing square
just curious do Hikoki/hitachi sponsor you? Liking your videos by the way
They're very good tools!
Buy the Makita battery saw as the blades on the other side. No leaning over ;)
I have a couple of saws on the opposite side and sometimes combine the two to speed the process up!!
great videos, ive picked up a trick or two watching them, it must be an honor to work with the Duke of Windsor, dont let him drive the van..
Where can I buy a tool like yours at 3.10? Thank you so much your answer in advance! :)
Rods and templates fool proof.
Skill
Great tip.
New subscriber today my friend
I was taught not to cut the rafter feet until the roof was pitched so a string line could be pulled from one end of the roof to the other.
If the wall isn't straight then straighten the wall. Don't ever go custom cutting rafters
Rafters are always cut identical so between ridge and eave the roof is parallel and the same goes for the rafter tails
Above anything else all the rafter tails must be the same so the soffet boards are even and parallel all the way around.
Same goes for the facia board... if you cut the tail you increase the height of the facia board. What the hell do you do then... and don't tell me rip a wider board with a tapered width.
I had an old timer when I was breaking in, rip off with great prejudice, 4 courses of roofing I put down because i didn't bother to climb to the ridge to snap a line center and square on a piece of roof way the fuck up there that only the birds would see... and I became a much better carpenter from getting lessons like that
Remember, all the framing work shows up in the finish trim, especially with cornice work... and good design, layout and framing uses dimension lumber for the trim... 1" or 5/4 x 3 1/2, 5 1/2 or 7 1/2. Take it off the pile have the painter prime it then nail it up if you did it right.
If you're doing reno work and the existing house is out of level don't worry about that. Just leave the level in the truck and take measurements off the floor. The eyeball can't discern if something is a little out of level, but things not parallel jump out at the eye.
Then it's up to the mechanic to install windows and doors plumb and square, making up the difference in the finish trim.
But new construction start with a deck level and square and from there it will be new jack city.
Even if the mason or concrete man fucked up the foundation, the framers job is a square and level house. Frame the box square and let it hang over wherever it does. On a 2x8 plate 1 1/2" is fine. Any more have the foundation guy come back and fix it.
Once they came up with 2x8 concrete brick from the footing. But usually its not that bad
Once the deck is framed go around and level the corners then pull a string and shim it level, going back to grout under the plate later.
The really old timer I knew in 1980 talked about using any old enamel saucer half filled with water and level the deck that way. Mac still had his in his van. He said the special feature was the blue ring about 1" down on the inside.
They had no spirit levels then so they would plumb the walls using 3-4-5, and parallel from there. Less tools, more old practices, these guys were really quick
If you really think about it the basics of most building practices haven't changed since the Egyptians, or whomever, built the Pyramids
Tbe biggest problems arise when some shoe maker framer/builder follows the foundation no matter what.
This other time we chased an over 2 1/2" out of square corner through the kitchen, a bath and onto the roof with some elaborate cornice design... we're talking special cuts for sheathing cabinets, counter tops, floor tile, cornice and a line of disappearing roof shingle going up the eave visible when you pulled in the driveway.
What a fucking nightmare. Everybody hated that shit and it took forever to get through it and all the subs muthafukked my boss about all the money they lost.
Worst part... he hired me as a journey man sub, at 30 years old I had the skills and tools to match. He was the same age but had very little time working alongside the old school guys... use to brag he worked his first job for 3 years then went out on his own... though he showed respect for my work and always was asking me why I wasn't working for myself.
That was until we came to this fucked up corner and at first I was very polite telling him like I was teaching him something new (and I was cuz common sense had failed him) to hang it over and jamb a leg under it and get the mason back.
Then he got pissy like his ego was bruised in front of his men but every time we got jammed up there I kept my mouth shut but his boys didn't.
Got to the point where he wouldn't even ask me to work anywhere near that section
And I dont even have the time or space to tell you the story of the roof he fukd on the next job and the terse words exchanged when I was laying out the garage roof with a dormer of unequal pitch and a true valley he asked me to cut
Another time
Build it level straight and square at the start then let it take you from there
agreed fave .....just get your rafters fixed then put a stringline across the rafter ends to mark to to get the fascia perfectly straight.
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I’m a huge fan of templates/patterns. But you just have to make sure there is enough repetitive work to be done to make the time spent and the cost of materials making it, worth the effort.
This guy is great. One thing I want to put out there. Problem with seeing the cut line. I found out the line matches up with the center of the safety blade cover. So instead of watching the blade, I look down the safety cover and keep it lined up with the line. Get less sawdust in my eyes.
nice one robin, i usually lay the pattern rafter on top as a template but this is a much better option ! fair play for sharing your knowledge, i do cut roofs quite frequently but i dont tell the other chippys much about how i do it lol