[2020] How to Solder 18650, AA, 9v, or ANY Other Battery (To Make Battery Packs) | Safe & Quick

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  • @neeraj563
    @neeraj563 Год назад +23

    I just applied your method. My soldering kept falling off. I scraped surface and used soldering paste and it helped. Thanks buddy

    • @Shakey31
      @Shakey31 Год назад +5

      Ditto. I used a Dremel to rough up the ends of regular Aa nimh battery. Worked great

  • @dalegass784
    @dalegass784 7 месяцев назад +5

    I've been mucking with electronics for decades, soldering for all of that. But I picked up some handy tips from this video. Really well done!

    • @MaxBricker
      @MaxBricker 5 месяцев назад

      What can I use the battery for

  • @zerodefault3069
    @zerodefault3069 Год назад +7

    Just repaired my portable blender, thanks man

  • @dinkfeatherhead8340
    @dinkfeatherhead8340 3 года назад +52

    Came here to fix my disposable😎

  • @tausiprahmanshihab
    @tausiprahmanshihab 2 года назад +5

    Thanks you so much sir
    From Bangladesh 🇧🇩🇧🇩

  • @jameslfowler9988
    @jameslfowler9988 10 месяцев назад +4

    kind of always thought that soldering a battery would make it rupture and explode? the things you learn sitting on ass at home..... can be educational. cheers dude!

  • @ofcv1238
    @ofcv1238 3 года назад +15

    As a general rule, fine sandpaper was missed. You can’t see microscopic oxidation which prevents bonding.

    • @DaGoose
      @DaGoose  3 года назад +13

      I suggested a flat blade screwdriver which is also suitable for removing the oxidation.

    • @ofcv1238
      @ofcv1238 3 года назад +7

      @@DaGoose I was not entirely dismissing the idea but certain most think you were knocking off high points and probably not as effective as a form-fitting abrasive...but you are right...does job. I believe few understand why soldering wires or pipes is VERY difficult or impossible without mechanical removal of invisible oxidation and flux.

    • @davidbarker3591
      @davidbarker3591 Год назад +3

      I like a small wire wheel on my Dremel to clean the battery ends

  • @hamzahyassine8752
    @hamzahyassine8752 Год назад +6

    I tried soldiering my 18650 battery for a few hours, but the soldier would never stick to the battery. It felt like the flux even made it worst. So I just held the strip with electrical tape.

    • @aleksanderholm2428
      @aleksanderholm2428 7 месяцев назад

      You taped a nickelstrip on top of the battery.....?

  • @Android25K
    @Android25K 4 года назад +8

    I don't know when I'll use this, but thank you

  • @Koryteq
    @Koryteq 4 года назад +8

    Hi, thanks for the video. Does it matter where exactly I put the wire in a 9V battery? I see that in your 9V battery in '+'
    you soldered a wire exactly in the middle, but in '-' at the edge of the spot. Thanks

    • @DaGoose
      @DaGoose  4 года назад +12

      No, it does not matter. Just ensure that the wires are firmly soldered to any part of the leads.

  • @ryszardsinius4828
    @ryszardsinius4828 25 дней назад +1

    If you have a 9V battery, just take a screwdriver, snap the pin heads off the battery and solder with the surface beneath it

  • @ktrump5882
    @ktrump5882 2 года назад +4

    Thanks for the video homie 🤙🏽

  • @saurabhjuvekar3671
    @saurabhjuvekar3671 2 года назад +11

    No matter how much I try to solder strip and battery, I failed everytime. It's very hard to apply solder to nickel strip even with flux. I try so much and end up buying new trimmer... 😄

    • @d_sidepaintball
      @d_sidepaintball 2 года назад +2

      Sand paper or razor scuff and flux

    • @5gun1
      @5gun1 2 года назад +1

      LOL IM TRYING TO SOLDER TO MY TRIMMER TOO LMAO

    • @saurabhjuvekar3671
      @saurabhjuvekar3671 2 года назад

      @@5gun1 & Left with damaged trimmer body..😅

    • @5gun1
      @5gun1 2 года назад +1

      @@saurabhjuvekar3671 dude update, things are actually going well I removed the old battery (had to break a bit of the strips) but my new batter is too long. I’ll have to break some the plastic casing to let it fit. Will have to hold it together will electric tape. Honestly I just like fixing things myself and learning. I probably could’ve bought another razor but now I’ll have experience with soldering so can’t complain (:

    • @adolfventer7481
      @adolfventer7481 2 года назад +1

      No way what is it with trimmers? I am also trying to fix my trimmer!

  • @GarethCometa
    @GarethCometa 9 месяцев назад +1

    Is a battery with little remnants left on still safe to use?

  • @lamboking8able
    @lamboking8able Год назад +3

    Way easier than I thought tbh

  • @aziz1981
    @aziz1981 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for this helpful video.

  • @PaulChaplo
    @PaulChaplo 7 дней назад

    What kind of flux is best for this? It is acidic?

  • @ninomandal181
    @ninomandal181 3 года назад +1

    We can simply connect a 9v battery connector for the 9volt battery... So no need to solder.

  • @iGentle0
    @iGentle0 4 года назад +5

    My solder doesn't stick to the metal of the battery nor the nickel strip. Are you using anything special?

    • @DaGoose
      @DaGoose  4 года назад +3

      Did you use additional flux as shown in the video?

    • @iGentle0
      @iGentle0 4 года назад +1

      @@DaGoose yes I did add flux but it didn't help. I saw there is special type of flux for nickel and stainless steel.

    • @DaGoose
      @DaGoose  4 года назад +5

      @@iGentle0 there is no special type of flux that you need to use. Rosin core flux should do the trick. I don’t think acid based flux will work with this

    • @iGentle0
      @iGentle0 4 года назад +1

      @@DaGoose I'm using this one ibb.co/dL5YCrR
      Is it also working with you on the nickel strip?

    • @sparkster7744
      @sparkster7744 3 года назад +6

      Scratching the surface lightly might provide exposed metal to solder on. Also, be sure to get a good quality solder, cheap ones just won't stick to anything no matter how hard you try

  • @raphaelvictoratanacio5362
    @raphaelvictoratanacio5362 3 года назад +3

    This is cool! Thanks for this

  • @rexluna5430
    @rexluna5430 2 года назад +2

    This was such a useful god damn video. Thank you.

    • @fbekker1838
      @fbekker1838 Месяц назад

      Why would you say the video is gid damn? Did God damn the video?
      If so why?

  • @phatman808
    @phatman808 3 года назад +10

    What temperature did you use?

    • @DaGoose
      @DaGoose  3 года назад +3

      My soldering iron doesn’t report temperature so I’m not exactly sure about that. Though, I do remember that the soldering iron is 60w total power and I used about a fourth of the power for this guide. Hope this helps.

    • @davidbarker3591
      @davidbarker3591 Год назад

      Try and get the iron to 750*F to 900*. You want it HOT. I. Tin my strip or wire, tin the battery cap and usually on and off in 2 seconds

  • @bluedemon79
    @bluedemon79 10 дней назад

    Thanks for the video!

  • @HazeAnderson
    @HazeAnderson 2 месяца назад

    Thank you Mister DaGoose 🙂👍

  • @dragomxsoldier
    @dragomxsoldier Год назад

    How about Gameboy cartridge battery like the 1616 for Pokemon

  • @gtasandman
    @gtasandman 2 года назад +1

    Will this work with button cells? like a 2016 size.

    • @DaGoose
      @DaGoose  2 года назад +1

      Yes, but be very careful. Some users on here had commented that they are prone to exploding.

  • @mikecripps6990
    @mikecripps6990 Год назад

    Hi, thanks for the video. If I wanted to join 18650 or 21700 batteries together in a line (creating a stick) how do I join them? Any advice will be much appreciated.

    • @DaGoose
      @DaGoose  Год назад +1

      line up the cells vertically by alternating polarity then connect them using nickel strips, where you connect negative to positive on each side (be careful not to short circuit!) until all cells are connected in series and you have an open positive on one end and an open negative on the other end. then fold each of the nickel strips with the cells connected so that the cells are in a single line.
      This is how cells are commonly put in a line in laptop battery packs.

    • @mikecripps6990
      @mikecripps6990 Год назад +1

      @@DaGoose do you think you could provide a video to do this? 😉

    • @DaGoose
      @DaGoose  Год назад +1

      i won’t make one because this is a specific problem. i only have but so much time in the real world to make videos so [out of interest in high viewership] if i make one it’s usually regarding a solution to a problem that’s widely encountered.
      However, the next video will be about making lithium ion battery packs which should at least get you started.

  • @bickyboc
    @bickyboc Год назад +1

    Very useful video. Thank u

  • @viktorbachew3316
    @viktorbachew3316 Год назад

    bro what is that liquid or smtg over the batery 0:38

  • @falkenvir
    @falkenvir 2 года назад +2

    What Solder Power you used 40W is enough?

    • @davidbarker3591
      @davidbarker3591 Год назад +2

      Yes, just have wait between solder jobs to let the 40W build up heat

  • @guyvautin3807
    @guyvautin3807 Год назад

    Thank you simple easy, done.

  • @geminigem9526
    @geminigem9526 Год назад

    IS it dangerous to solder batteries. ? What to look out Safety factor when solder?

  • @philsketball
    @philsketball 3 года назад +1

    Where do you get nickel strips

    • @DaGoose
      @DaGoose  3 года назад +2

      Buy them online. I found the ones in this video on Amazon

    • @kenmackenzie4398
      @kenmackenzie4398 3 месяца назад

      Remove the plating from the battery surface with a dremel abrasive disk prior to soldering

  • @sharkhunter451
    @sharkhunter451 Год назад

    What temp do you recomend?

  • @oldschool8432
    @oldschool8432 2 года назад

    Came here to replace my internal battery mod
    What solder did you use?

    • @DaGoose
      @DaGoose  2 года назад +1

      I used 63/37 1mm Chinese solder

    • @oldschool8432
      @oldschool8432 2 года назад +1

      @@DaGoose
      Thank you. I have never soldered anything in my life before

    • @oldschool8432
      @oldschool8432 2 года назад

      @@DaGoose
      Can you please help me? I am trying to solder a small wire to a 18 350 battery for my vape. It came with an internal battery but I'm able to replace it but I cannot get the solder to stick. I clean the surface, I sanded it and wiped it with alcohol and I cannot get the solder to work. I have a brand new solder iron new solder and flux

    • @DaGoose
      @DaGoose  2 года назад

      You’ll want to apply flux to both the wire and the Battery. If the solder won’t stick to the wire, try using a different wire consisting of different conductors.
      EDIT: I don’t suggest using alcohol. That could be your primary problem.

    • @oldschool8432
      @oldschool8432 2 года назад

      @@DaGoose
      The solder doesn't stick to the battery or the wire. I'll clean up everything tonight with water and resend the battery down. Thank you for your help

  • @sakomorgan1192
    @sakomorgan1192 2 года назад

    Bro I dosent have this cream dose it make a problem?

    • @denrico777
      @denrico777 2 года назад +1

      I think you're talking about the flux. Yes, you need the flux.

  • @nikko
    @nikko 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for this

  • @tutornews7596
    @tutornews7596 2 года назад

    What's the power of your solder iron? 30W?

  • @anishhirve7741
    @anishhirve7741 3 года назад

    Do i have to use single stranded wire or multi standard wire ? please help sir.

    • @DaGoose
      @DaGoose  3 года назад

      Either would work, but ensure the current going through the wire(s) isn’t too high else they will burn up.

    • @davidbarker3591
      @davidbarker3591 Год назад

      Either...solid wire can carry a little more amps

  • @cliffBMRC
    @cliffBMRC 2 года назад +1

    Excellent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @trollking202
    @trollking202 2 года назад +1

    I’m use this 🤔excellent 😊

  • @SacredHeart0520
    @SacredHeart0520 11 дней назад +1

    Do not use a screwdriver to prep the battery use empty cloth or sand paper

  • @nidhishree3795
    @nidhishree3795 4 года назад +2

    THANK YOU

  • @harrychamberlain2786
    @harrychamberlain2786 2 месяца назад

    I am still watching but something did not make sense.
    "If it is rough or not smooth" then you need to use something to scratch marks into it to make it more rough.. what?

    • @harrychamberlain2786
      @harrychamberlain2786 2 месяца назад

      I have no Flux but I have the rest so I will use what you said to so I can attach AA batteries into aaa slots.
      If you put a triple a battery and it's a double a slot you can make a ball out of tin foil and use that

    • @DaGoose
      @DaGoose  2 месяца назад

      that only applies if there is oxidation on the surfaces. that is what is meant if it is rough or not smooth. it is oxidation that prevents solder joints to form on the surfaces.

  • @Jack-rs8kr
    @Jack-rs8kr Год назад +1

    it want do it 😢

  • @PrafulMeena
    @PrafulMeena Год назад

    Thanks man

  • @dragomxsoldier
    @dragomxsoldier Год назад

    What about 1616

  • @sasquatch3945
    @sasquatch3945 9 месяцев назад

    Thanks!

  • @roshansportsindia
    @roshansportsindia 2 месяца назад

    Thank you

  • @sykeamer88_20
    @sykeamer88_20 4 года назад +2

    Nice

  • @HuzaifaM123
    @HuzaifaM123 4 года назад

    What are some real life applications of this?

    • @7889915
      @7889915 4 года назад +7

      Huz Gaming.....I can answer this one as I just had to do this on a pricey wifi thermocouple device. The manufacturer had 1 ni-mh battery spot welded to the pcb. After so many charge/discharge cycles, the battery finally gave up the ghost and wouldn't charge anymore rendering a $200 device useless. A total loss from a $2 AA battery? I think not. I didn't have the perfect solder setup, but did my best with my cheap iron and soldered a new battery back in place. Spent a few hours learning and trial/error labor, but in the end, I saved $200 from buying a new device and learned something in the process. Highly recommend!

    • @phatman808
      @phatman808 3 года назад +2

      Making rechargeable battery packs for lots of different things.

    • @davidbarker3591
      @davidbarker3591 Год назад

      Repairing power tool battery packs

    • @ash1eyrose
      @ash1eyrose Год назад

      Repairing something that uses rechargeable batteries that will no longer hold a charge and need to be replaced

  • @ugenegareth9339
    @ugenegareth9339 Месяц назад

    im aware of the petty shadow banning of comments, while you may feel empowered by your ability to do so, that channel owners often misuse, eventually people will find a way around that, and i have screen shot your comments and so people will see the truth

    • @DaGoose
      @DaGoose  Месяц назад

      why do you speculate? i banned no one. i’m not going to indulge in your pharisaic behavior. there is a time and place to share such things, and here is not it.

    • @ugenegareth9339
      @ugenegareth9339 Месяц назад

      @@DaGoose
      well if you telling the truth , my apologize
      because my comments shows that it reflects, except the moment, i start to refresh the page it is not there anymore,
      that is a clear sign and indication, of a shadow ban, giving you the illusion that your comment has been posted,
      until it happens to you, you will understand, how annoying that can be

    • @DaGoose
      @DaGoose  Месяц назад

      there is no reason to be annoyed. it is written:
      “Now whatever city or town you enter, inquire who in it is worthy, and stay there till you go out. And when you go into a household, greet it. If the household is worthy, let your peace come upon it. But if it is not worthy, let your peace return to you. And whoever will not receive you nor hear your words, when you depart from that house or city, shake off the dust from your feet.”
      ‭‭(Matthew‬ ‭10‬:‭11‬-‭14‬ ‭NKJV‬‬)

    • @niji8310
      @niji8310 Месяц назад

      The platform itself can shadowban. It's not the creator of the video doing it.

    • @ugenegareth9339
      @ugenegareth9339 Месяц назад

      @@DaGoose
      don't get me wrong im mature to handle rejection, rather this is a case if you read the part of Apostle Paul when he speaks of his resentments to alexander the copper smith who is not only apposed to what he says, but has chosen to become an interference in the matter to prevent others from hearing his message, and from this point i bring to your attention, if you not aware of the subtle attacks on freedom of expression and freedom of speech and with the advancements of the ai the world rulers, has it in their agenda to suppress the freedom of speech the kind of truth that sheds light on their agenda and should serve to you as a reminder that we are to embrace every opportunity, to be instant in season and out of season, as often as we are alive on this earth
      im sure you busy, not take too much of your time, i would just address this last point based on your statement in my first message, where you say the apocrypha is not inspired, i will just raise this point for you to ponder and reason if that is really, the case
      since the book of Enoch is not part of the bible, would you call it, not inspired? or to say non-canon? and yet the book of Jude that is considered canon and quotes from the book of Enoch
      on the contrary it is the corrupt roman catholic leaders that are the translators of the modern bibles today, and to remind you if you dont know that the orignal kjv 1611 has the apocryoha books included,
      so from here i would just suggest to you to atleast keep an opened mind, and that there's always a motive behind every agenda, and so the agenda of these corrupt religious leaders, to steer away the public from other truths contained in these ancient text, that i truly believe is inspired, as a matter of fact the Almighty has purposed for Enoch to write the book and to preserve it, for every generation to final generation..

  • @Quantumfishics
    @Quantumfishics 2 года назад

    Do I need flux?

    • @DaGoose
      @DaGoose  2 года назад

      Yes, else the solder won’t stick.

  • @walterr8115
    @walterr8115 8 месяцев назад

    Ily ❤❤❤

  • @ugenegareth9339
    @ugenegareth9339 6 месяцев назад +1

    I answered and said, "If I have found favor in thy sight, O Lord, show this also to thy servant: whether after death, as soon as every one of us yields up his soul, we shall be kept in rest until those times come when thou wilt renew the creation, or whether we shall be tormented at once?" 76 He answered me and said, "I will show you that also, but do not be associated with those who have shown scorn, nor number yourself among those who are tormented. 77 For you have a treasure of works laid up with the Most High; but it will not be shown to you until the last times.
    78 Now, concerning death, the teaching is: When the decisive decree has gone forth from the Most High that a man shall die, as the spirit leaves the body to return again to him who gave it, first of all it adores the glory of the Most High. 79 And if it is one of those who have shown scorn and have not kept the way of the Most High, and who have despised his law, and who have hated those who fear the Most High -- 80 such spirits shall not enter into habitations, but shall immediately wander about in torments, ever grieving and sad, in seven ways.
    81 The first way, because they have scorned the law of the Most High. 82 The second way, because they cannot now make a good repentance that they may live. 83 The third way, they shall see the reward laid up for those who have trusted the covenants of the Most High. 84 The fourth way, they shall consider the torment laid up for themselves in the last days. 85 The fifth way, they shall see how the habitations of the others are guarded by angels in profound quiet. 86 The sixth way, they shall see how some of them will pass over into torments. 87 The seventh way, which is worse than all the ways that have been mentioned, because they shall utterly waste away in confusion and be consumed with shame, and shall wither with fear at seeing the glory of the Most High before whom they sinned while they were alive, and before whom they are to be judged in the last times.
    88 "Now this is the order of those who have kept the ways of the Most High, when they shall be separated from their mortal body. 89 During the time that they lived in it, they laboriously served the Most High, and withstood danger every hour, that they might keep the law of the Lawgiver perfectly. 90 Therefore this is the teaching concerning them: 91 First of all, they shall see with great joy the glory of him who receives them, for they shall have rest in seven orders.
    92 The first order, because they have striven with great effort to overcome the evil thought which was formed with them, that it might not lead them astray from life into death. 93 The second order, because they see the perplexity in which the souls of the unrighteous wander, and the punishment that awaits them. 94 The third order, they see the witness which he who formed them bears concerning them, that while they were alive they kept the law which was given them in trust. 95 The fourth order, they understand the rest which they now enjoy, being gathered into their chambers and guarded by angels in profound quiet, and the glory which awaits them in the last days. 96 The fifth order, they rejoice that they have now escaped what is corruptible, and shall inherit what is to come;
    and besides they see the straits and toil from which they have been delivered, and the spacious liberty which they are to receive and enjoy in immortality. 97 The sixth order, when it is shown to them how their face is to shine like the sun, and how they are to be made like the light of the stars, being incorruptible from then on. 98 The seventh order, which is greater than all that have been mentioned, because they shall rejoice with boldness, and shall be confident without confusion, and shall be glad without fear, for they hasten to behold the face of him whom they served in life and from whom they are to receive their reward when glorified.
    99 This is the order of the souls of the righteous, as henceforth is announced; and the aforesaid are the ways of torment which those who would not give heed shall suffer hereafter." 100 I answered and said, "Will time therefore be given to the souls, after they have been separated from the bodies, to see what you have described to me?" 101 He said to me, "They shall have freedom for seven days, so that during these seven days they may see the things of which you have been told, and afterwards they shall be gathered in their habitations."
    102 I answered and said, "If I have found favor in thy sight, show further to me, thy servant, whether on the day of judgment the righteous will be able to intercede for the unrighteous or to entreat the Most High for them, 103 fathers for sons or sons for parents, brothers for brothers, relatives for their kinsmen, or friends for those who are most dear." 104 He answered me and said, "Since you have found favor in my sight, I will show you this also. The day of judgment is decisive and displays to all the seal of truth. Just as now a father does not send his son, or a son his father, or a master his servant, or a friend his dearest friend, to be ill or sleep or eat or be healed in his stead, 105 so no one shall ever pray for another on that day, neither shall any one lay a burden on another; for then every one shall bear his own righteousness and unrighteousness." .....2 Esdras 7:75
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    • @fbekker1838
      @fbekker1838 Месяц назад

      Don't understand this post. It doesn't really say anything about the soldering?

    • @ugenegareth9339
      @ugenegareth9339 Месяц назад

      @@fbekker1838
      well make sure you try to understand, before your life on earth is expired

    • @DaGoose
      @DaGoose  Месяц назад +2

      the apocrypha is not inspired

    • @fbekker1838
      @fbekker1838 Месяц назад

      @@DaGoose I agree

    • @ugenegareth9339
      @ugenegareth9339 Месяц назад

      @@DaGoose
      that's the same old excuse i hear every time and likely from those who probably don't even know that the orginal kjv 1611 had the apocrypha books included
      and what would your conclusion be of the book of Enoch, seeing that it is not in the bible it should then be considered non-canon??.. except that the book of Jude that is considered part of canon quotes from book of Enoch is that is non-canon
      so you see then the contradiction, that on the contrary it is the corrupt roman catholic leaders that are the ones that excluded these books for their own politcal agenda

  • @luieg9482
    @luieg9482 3 года назад +1

    Came here to attach a battery to my vape that broke bill nye style

  • @dylanlester113
    @dylanlester113 2 года назад +4

    Me wishing to see the dislike button before I blow up a battery

    • @DaGoose
      @DaGoose  2 года назад +5

      As of today, the like to dislikes on this video are: 643 / 28

    • @question4552
      @question4552 2 года назад

      @@DaGoose wait, you can see the dislikes? How?

    • @DaGoose
      @DaGoose  2 года назад +3

      I can see the like to dislike ratio in RUclips Studio > Videos

  • @steptodraw3811
    @steptodraw3811 2 года назад +1

    1000th like

  • @carmenskelton
    @carmenskelton 3 года назад +2

    PAX!

  • @tadthompson3943
    @tadthompson3943 Год назад

    a"

  • @rexsceleratorum1632
    @rexsceleratorum1632 2 года назад

    Wear some serious safety goggles, because cleaning battery goop out of your eyes is hard. Just sayin'

    • @DaGoose
      @DaGoose  2 года назад

      What battery did you attempt to solder

  • @steves313
    @steves313 3 года назад +1

    my battery exploded in my face

    • @DaGoose
      @DaGoose  3 года назад +3

      I am sorry you experienced that. Hope everything is ok.

    • @mjyanimations1062
      @mjyanimations1062 3 года назад +1

      This is why it's recommended to spot weld them, not solder

    • @jeffclassics
      @jeffclassics 3 года назад +4

      18650 must be discharged., everything in the video works and i actually made many solders using this method. Maybe you over solder and the blob of lead shorted the positive to negative, likely scenario if unexperienced.

  • @SellamAbraham
    @SellamAbraham 3 года назад +1

    Don't bother trying this, it doesn't work.

    • @DaGoose
      @DaGoose  3 года назад +9

      It clearly does work, as I have shown it in this video and others. Please address any issues you are having. I’m willing to help you.

    • @i80386sx
      @i80386sx 3 года назад +2

      I hope you're wrong. I'm trying this on a CR1632 tomorrow.

    • @Cherriedsalmonbowl
      @Cherriedsalmonbowl 3 года назад +1

      Wrong

    • @SHADOW-bg4mm
      @SHADOW-bg4mm 3 года назад

      i'll have to try it again, i didn't scrape the medal to expose it, as one comment suggested

    • @liouxliouxisgod
      @liouxliouxisgod 9 месяцев назад

      How you going to sit there and watch the dude do it and say it doesn’t work? Do you tell math that it doesn’t work if you don’t get a math problem correct?