They always struggle to beat good teams. It’s easy to say we win with game with a striker but the biggest issue is the fact that spurs seem to have all the chances but the first chance the opposition gets they always seem to concede. Is it that every team turns into the most clinical team against them?.. or is there a problem with the way they’re setting up the defense?
Personally I thought that was one of our better performances since the start of last season. We didn't get the result we deserved but that is football - sometimes the better team doesn't win the game. You need a bit of luck in most sports and yesterday we didn't get it, there is no need to panic and overreact to an unfortunate result.
Considering how much turnover Spurs have experienced over the last 12months and the amount of young players that are being introduced to the squad/ team, it should tell you this is NOT a short-term thing. Spurs are in the best place we've been in for a long time.. with a club and coaching team that both appear fully aligned, both in strategy and identity, with an extremely talented group of players who want to help the club develop. Progress is a process # COYS
While the defence played well they made two game defining errors in not tracking players and poor recovery. We can’t hide from that and it cost us the match.
Some observations: 1. Maddison is a problem because he thinks he is the best free kick/corner taker but in reality Son should be taking them. 2. Romero is a problem. He is a fantastic CB for any team but his lack of pace means it isnt ideal for angeball. Everything else abt Romero is perfect for Ange. 3. We need a back up for VDV, that is, a pacey CB. Highline means pace is important. Newcastles 2nd goal may have been prevented with a faster CB 4. Kulu cant play on wing as he doesnt have the pace 5. I dont understand why Ange doesnt have his mids/forwards/wingers rotate positions in game to give the opposition diff looks. 6. Ange made his subs too late. Angeball requires fresh legs as the run up and down pitch so much as all players are 2 way players. Spurs were dominating but regardless he should have made changes earlier to keep legs fresh
Basic principles of playing a high line- 1) stay as high as possible while there is pressure on the ball. 2) if a opposition player escapes the press, the defence must drop off together and quickly. (Otherwise, with no pressure on the ball, it’s all too easy to play a ball in behind in acres of space) The goal was conceded because- A) the press failed B) the line didn’t drop quickly enough
Agreed, but also, the way Maddison pressed on Joelinton wasn't good he had no one of his teammates behind him and was running in too fast. Everyone is blaming the high line, but the secondary goal is bad pressing from the middle.
The performance should have led to Newcastle being on the end of a defeat the size they have given us lately. A ruthless striker on the day would have caused havoc. I did like the team better when Brennan came on and Deko played as no 8 lI like him madders in midfield together esp against low block teams
I worry that we need a few more smarter players (footie iq) who understand the mechanics and momentum of how to create a goal and who can execute that final pass and/or shot. Maybe it’s just, like you say, that Solanke is missing. We shall see after the international break.
I think an interesting one I hear few people talk about is Spurs not going back for Antonio Nusa. This falls into line with players who really want to choose Spurs. That is fair and strong but sometimes you can’t be so stubborn with such talented young players that are being advised on moves. Nusa to Leipzig has led to the dominoes falling with Odobert to Spurs and Nunes to Brentford. Leipzig have ended up with Nusa (fee 25% less than Brentford), Geertruida and Vermeeren (loan, obligation to buy) BTW. Dragusin, Nusa and Bergvall would have been an incredible January window. I doubt it will be replicated but it will be interesting to see what they come up with.
Solanke played against Leicester and it was a carbon copy of how we played against Newcastle. So please lets not kid ourselves that its just that we were missing him or Richie
That was solanke's first game with the team and he played most of it having been clonked on the ankle let's let him play a couple of games before we write him off maybe....
Pfft. "This is a team game - but on the evidence of 1 match - quality players don't need any practice nor game time with said team before they perform at the highest level." Sounds like you've also got beef with Mbappe. You should go play for Real Madrid and show him how it's done - yo.
Seems like we need to have 4 or 5 strikers instead of just a couple, to cover for the constant injuries we seem to have at the position. We need to eliminate the defensive mistakes, these happen far too often and are not the mark of a top 4 club.
Dragusin has gone well when starting, he was great against City last season, and again on weekend - what happens with more time, honestly think Dragusin in the middle and VDV wide left instead if Udogie would be our best backline, Porro wide right.
What are you talking about? What other day? We have the same situation in every game. Creating tons of half chances but only score 1 goal. And then concede because of the high line...
@@iEditStuf yeah, Ange's gamble sometimes work out. But let's not forget that we were gifted the 2nd and 3rd goal by Pickford. If Everton were still in the game - not sure what would have happened in the 2nd half...
@@bohdan2084 but you said it’s the same in every game but our last game that was “the other day” literally wasn’t the same case so I don’t understand why you’re saying “what other day?”
@@iEditStuf Everton was an exception, same as Villa last season. In most games we have 90% of possession, create lots of half chances but only manage to score 1 or 2 goals. And concede 1 or 2 because of the high line. That's why I see no reason to say "was it any other day we would have scored a lot of goals". No, statistically, we wouldn't.
For me we played really well. If we had our st . We would of won it very easily. We was all over them . I can't wait for us to have them back and start cooking. Great stream so far coys
@jacklegros6614 last season Solanke scored 3/1 G/A against Newcastle in 3 games played. With all the chances Spurs had - I'd suggest a pretty decent chance he would have contributed towards at least 1 goal. Cheers.
Props Ali, you try to make some jokes and Rob powers through but he did engage after ‘carry-a-bag’ (which I agree was a silly way to end the pod) to talk about the nord in other countries- good show always enjoy it- Rob you should loosen up a bit - how about two min stand up routine from both y’all :)
It'll be great when we get the whole package. With kane, we played without the ball, sat deep, stole games. Without kane, we have all the ball, dominate, cant score. Im sure it'll work out, the football is getting better, though is a touch one dimensional in that, we get wide, cut back or cross.
Pedro stopping tracking his man at the edge of the box, allowing him to run free to get the second goal is absolutely shocking.If he's going to play for us , he needs to play is a winger , he can't defend
I say it was Romero he lost his man which causes Dragusin to leave his man who Porro just couldn’t catch. I’d give Romero the blame for both goals if he’d ran back instead of walking he would’ve be in position to stop that, the way it turned out he wasn’t even in the box.
Lies . 20 shots at goal .....that must make you think that Pope in Newcastle Goal was .....man of the match..... seeing as Spurs didn't score any Goals .....None whatsoever. So what's the truth then ? Not 20 shots at goal....?? Well if you call striking one of the massed ranks of Newcastle team . Everyone behind the ball . Spurs were clueless as to how to break down the Newcastle defence . Spurs performance was .... according to Alisdare Gold...." So Good" that we didn't score after 100 minutes of huffing and puffing. So spit it out ....How many were actual clear cut chances .......a goal ....if only . Well, take a look, i did , the Grand Total of 5 chances .
Maybe it’s cause solanke hasn’t had a chance to make an impact yet but to me they look exactly the same as they did for the second half of last season. Ange ball is definitely miles better than conte but it’s horseshoe football 85% of the time. And they always look like they’ll concede even against mid table teams.
Players such as Romeo, Bent Udogie should use this international break n focus on match sharpness / fitness.. also I don’t think he trust the youngster against a physical tough team
Anybody found malingering in the sick room for the next match needs dragging out and told to get on the pitch . Maybe it's all too comfortable at Spurs.
Frustrating, yes. But we didn’t create a lot of missed good chances, just blocked shots (good defending) and wayward passes. I remain much more concerned about the way we did not defend their goals. We cannot succeed if this continues (+ Vardy’s😡)
Ange’s football style is much more aggressive compared to former coaches like Conte, Mourinho, and Nuno, making it enjoyable to watch. However, football is not just about enjoyment; it also requires results. If he doesn’t adjust his game management, it will be difficult for him to maintain his position as the team’s coach in the future.
There are some serious questions need answering. I please can we just stop playing Son down the middle. We are where we are, but lets not kid ourselves. Our season could be over by October if something mentally and I mean mentally does not change. We basically have the same squad we had last season aside of a few children ready to gain some experience. Most had a decent pre season. The deadwood has gone, yet here we are making the same mistakes and not having a plan to overcome the problems. Sometimes you need to close the shop and wait for the door to blow open. N/Castle knew we would struggle with goals so did just that. Leicester did the same and arguably should have taken 3 points. This could get worrying for Ange. If arse and coventry does not go well and a slow start in Europe. I'd hate to think how the fans will be then. You would hope that Ricci is back by then. I'm not holding out for Solanke.
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Destroyed everywhere except scoreboard. Easily fixed with a fit striker. No need for fans to hit panic button.
100% correct , Spurs fans always get over their skis
They give up at least 2 goals guaranteed without VdV. He should be kept in a cryo chamber between games.
Fully agree.
They always struggle to beat good teams. It’s easy to say we win with game with a striker but the biggest issue is the fact that spurs seem to have all the chances but the first chance the opposition gets they always seem to concede. Is it that every team turns into the most clinical team against them?.. or is there a problem with the way they’re setting up the defense?
😂😂 the last 24 years tho. Just saying. You will see by Christmas
The black coat at the back of Rob Guest’s door…Makes Rob look like he’s got a Mohican haircut 😂 Great Show lads
I thought it was a elf hat lol.
😂😂😂😂 yeah i was thinking the same thing.
Personally I thought that was one of our better performances since the start of last season.
We didn't get the result we deserved but that is football - sometimes the better team doesn't
win the game. You need a bit of luck in most sports and yesterday we didn't get it, there is no
need to panic and overreact to an unfortunate result.
Considering how much turnover Spurs have experienced over the last 12months and the amount of young players that are being introduced to the squad/ team, it should tell you this is NOT a short-term thing.
Spurs are in the best place we've been in for a long time.. with a club and coaching team that both appear fully aligned, both in strategy and identity, with an extremely talented group of players who want to help the club develop. Progress is a process # COYS
Trust the process FC 😅😅😅😅
Dragusin had a stron performance i liked him a lot ❤😅
At the end of the day.. It was much better than being 2 down in 19 minutes. Heading in the right direction.. But still a lot of work to do
Durection ..down
Johnson is great coming of the bench against tired defenders. Let's keep it that way.
Great!? Na
@@StevieBoomyCheer up. He was really good. I don't see why you would have issues with that.
@@MFDOOOOOOM MFDOOOOOOM ! 😂😂😂😂😂😂 cheer up
@@MFDOOOOOOMJohnson is poor.
@@jacklegros6614 He wasn't against Newcastle.
Thanks for some sense, and calmness, gents. Spurs followers drive me mad with overreactions 🙄🙄
I know, right?
While the defence played well they made two game defining errors in not tracking players and poor recovery. We can’t hide from that and it cost us the match.
Johnson is a frustrating player because he has so much pace, but when it comes down to take-ons 1v1, that is simply not part of his game.
Some observations:
1. Maddison is a problem because he thinks he is the best free kick/corner taker but in reality Son should be taking them.
2. Romero is a problem. He is a fantastic CB for any team but his lack of pace means it isnt ideal for angeball. Everything else abt Romero is perfect for Ange.
3. We need a back up for VDV, that is, a pacey CB. Highline means pace is important. Newcastles 2nd goal may have been prevented with a faster CB
4. Kulu cant play on wing as he doesnt have the pace
5. I dont understand why Ange doesnt have his mids/forwards/wingers rotate positions in game to give the opposition diff looks.
6. Ange made his subs too late. Angeball requires fresh legs as the run up and down pitch so much as all players are 2 way players. Spurs were dominating but regardless he should have made changes earlier to keep legs fresh
Agreed. These were much of the same issues from last season and nothing really changed
Not convinced Romero to blame for 2nd goal, interesting to get Ange's view. Seemed like he may have been the only switched on to the offside line.
Basic principles of playing a high line-
1) stay as high as possible while there is pressure on the ball.
2) if a opposition player escapes the press, the defence must drop off together and quickly.
(Otherwise, with no pressure on the ball, it’s all too easy to play a ball in behind in acres of space)
The goal was conceded because-
A) the press failed
B) the line didn’t drop quickly enough
Agreed, but also, the way Maddison pressed on Joelinton wasn't good he had no one of his teammates behind him and was running in too fast. Everyone is blaming the high line, but the secondary goal is bad pressing from the middle.
@@simongustafsson5309 both were bad
Missing chances happens to any team in the world. Conceding in the first chance of the opponent it’s so amazing 😂
It wasn’t the first chance though was it… how about Radus tackle on Isak
Good show guys. It is nice to listen to someone who is able to analyse without aggressive moaning. Keep up the good work :)
Stop giving players ages as an excuse!..
What's with everyone trying to take free kicks? Does Ange not assign a desingated kicker?
Madders and Porro. Son every now and then. All 3 are capable but rarely get it right.
Sonny should take the free kicks. He scores for south Korea often with them.
Big hole in the bloody defence !!!
Ange doesn't bother with defense
The performance should have led to Newcastle being on the end of a defeat the size they have given us lately. A ruthless striker on the day would have caused havoc. I did like the team better when Brennan came on and Deko played as no 8 lI like him madders in midfield together esp against low block teams
I worry that we need a few more smarter players (footie iq) who understand the mechanics and momentum of how to create a goal and who can execute that final pass and/or shot. Maybe it’s just, like you say, that Solanke is missing. We shall see after the international break.
I think that Bergval is highly intelligent but is limited to small bits at the end . Give him some starts and we may just see the best of him.
I think an interesting one I hear few people talk about is Spurs not going back for Antonio Nusa. This falls into line with players who really want to choose Spurs. That is fair and strong but sometimes you can’t be so stubborn with such talented young players that are being advised on moves.
Nusa to Leipzig has led to the dominoes falling with Odobert to Spurs and Nunes to Brentford. Leipzig have ended up with Nusa (fee 25% less than Brentford), Geertruida and Vermeeren (loan, obligation to buy) BTW.
Dragusin, Nusa and Bergvall would have been an incredible January window. I doubt it will be replicated but it will be interesting to see what they come up with.
Solanke played against Leicester and it was a carbon copy of how we played against Newcastle. So please lets not kid ourselves that its just that we were missing him or Richie
Well said.
That was solanke's first game with the team and he played most of it having been clonked on the ankle let's let him play a couple of games before we write him off maybe....
Pfft.
"This is a team game - but on the evidence of 1 match - quality players don't need any practice nor game time with said team before they perform at the highest level."
Sounds like you've also got beef with Mbappe. You should go play for Real Madrid and show him how it's done - yo.
ifs , buts , maybes , look at the patterns ! you cant be unlucky every game .
I think Ange ball is the truth personally! Love it
Guesty with the ‘thats bussin’ fr fr no cap’ trim
Seems like we need to have 4 or 5 strikers instead of just a couple, to cover for the constant injuries we seem to have at the position. We need to eliminate the defensive mistakes, these happen far too often and are not the mark of a top 4 club.
I liked the end, this little vacation thing between you two is quite funny 😉
Once another fantastic and informative video by Gold & Guest
Anges belief that the attackers are sufficient is going to cost him his job.
Dragusin has gone well when starting, he was great against City last season, and again on weekend - what happens with more time, honestly think Dragusin in the middle and VDV wide left instead if Udogie would be our best backline, Porro wide right.
What are you talking about? What other day? We have the same situation in every game. Creating tons of half chances but only score 1 goal. And then concede because of the high line...
Everton game we literally scored 4 and conceded none....
@@iEditStuf yeah, Ange's gamble sometimes work out.
But let's not forget that we were gifted the 2nd and 3rd goal by Pickford. If Everton were still in the game - not sure what would have happened in the 2nd half...
@@bohdan2084 but you said it’s the same in every game but our last game that was “the other day” literally wasn’t the same case so I don’t understand why you’re saying “what other day?”
@@iEditStuf Everton was an exception, same as Villa last season. In most games we have 90% of possession, create lots of half chances but only manage to score 1 or 2 goals. And concede 1 or 2 because of the high line. That's why I see no reason to say "was it any other day we would have scored a lot of goals". No, statistically, we wouldn't.
For me we played really well. If we had our st . We would of won it very easily. We was all over them . I can't wait for us to have them back and start cooking. Great stream so far coys
Where is the evidence solanke would have been the difference
@jacklegros6614 last season Solanke scored 3/1 G/A against Newcastle in 3 games played.
With all the chances Spurs had - I'd suggest a pretty decent chance he would have contributed towards at least 1 goal.
Cheers.
Rob's gonna try to strangle Ali through the screen if he keeps making fun of Everton every week
Thanks for the usual great video Ali and Rob. I'm jealous! Rob Guest is getting younger...
Guesty really aught to remove that black jacket hanging on the door behind where he's seated. It makes it seam like his hair is cone shaped!😂
Rob ‘very much so’ Guest….your hair looked high & pointy cos of your jacket on the door!!
Props Ali, you try to make some jokes and Rob powers through but he did engage after ‘carry-a-bag’ (which I agree was a silly way to end the pod) to talk about the nord in other countries- good show always enjoy it- Rob you should loosen up a bit - how about two min stand up routine from both y’all :)
It'll be great when we get the whole package. With kane, we played without the ball, sat deep, stole games. Without kane, we have all the ball, dominate, cant score. Im sure it'll work out, the football is getting better, though is a touch one dimensional in that, we get wide, cut back or cross.
So refreshing to see some people not being unnecessarily negative about Tottenham
Then don’t watch the other channels then! Fans will have different opinions to you. Doesn’t mean they are negative. So pipe down happy clapper.
Not negative. Realistic
Gray seems to be a bit forgotten so far in the league games. When do you think he'll start?
Udogie at his best when he’s making runs in midfield the ball at his feet.
Pedro stopping tracking his man at the edge of the box, allowing him to run free to get the second goal is absolutely shocking.If he's going to play for us , he needs to play is a winger , he can't defend
He was never gonna get there but i see what you mean. I blame that more on romero for his lack of awareness and losing his man
I say it was Romero he lost his man which causes Dragusin to leave his man who Porro just couldn’t catch. I’d give Romero the blame for both goals if he’d ran back instead of walking he would’ve be in position to stop that, the way it turned out he wasn’t even in the box.
We joined Everton Ali.
We play that high line, and we are going to get in trouble.
Not buying that, no. 6 will do us in.
Spursiest start of the season 😅
Lies . 20 shots at goal .....that must make you think that Pope in Newcastle Goal was .....man of the match..... seeing as Spurs didn't score any Goals .....None whatsoever.
So what's the truth then ?
Not 20 shots at goal....??
Well if you call striking one of the massed ranks of Newcastle team . Everyone behind the ball . Spurs were clueless as to how to break down the Newcastle defence .
Spurs performance was .... according to Alisdare Gold...." So Good" that we didn't score after 100 minutes of huffing and puffing.
So spit it out ....How many were actual clear cut chances .......a goal ....if only .
Well, take a look, i did , the Grand Total of 5 chances .
I like the guy but he really doesn’t want to say it how it is and look at the games through rose tinted glasses.
Maybe it’s cause solanke hasn’t had a chance to make an impact yet but to me they look exactly the same as they did for the second half of last season. Ange ball is definitely miles better than conte but it’s horseshoe football 85% of the time. And they always look like they’ll concede even against mid table teams.
Players such as Romeo, Bent Udogie should use this international break n focus on match sharpness / fitness.. also I don’t think he trust the youngster against a physical tough team
Prime Dele walking away with many a match ball with his runs into the box.
Just not sporting to start an attack until they have all 11 behind the ball
We're just not very good. And I think we all know it.
Yes .And that's the reality !@ We are a very average football team but expect to win trophies!!
It’s been the same all my live and im 51 😂
Has Rob had a severe haircut??
Everton getting relegated
That's a haircut
Anybody found malingering in the sick room for the next match needs dragging out and told to get on the pitch . Maybe it's all too comfortable at Spurs.
Frustrating, yes. But we didn’t create a lot of missed good chances, just blocked shots (good defending) and wayward passes.
I remain much more concerned about the way we did not defend their goals.
We cannot succeed if this continues (+ Vardy’s😡)
First !!
Yet useless!!
Jealousy is a bad colour on you 😂🤣
@kenshiro1789 yeah I'm jealous because someone msged first. Right, im assuming you're a child too.
Let’s gooo
Ange’s football style is much more aggressive compared to former coaches like Conte, Mourinho, and Nuno, making it enjoyable to watch. However, football is not just about enjoyment; it also requires results. If he doesn’t adjust his game management, it will be difficult for him to maintain his position as the team’s coach in the future.
Shit show is Spurs - nose bleeding in front of goal...
Bang average team. Keep signing those kids lol
There are some serious questions need answering. I please can we just stop playing Son down the middle.
We are where we are, but lets not kid ourselves. Our season could be over by October if something mentally and I mean mentally does not change. We basically have the same squad we had last season aside of a few children ready to gain some experience. Most had a decent pre season. The deadwood has gone, yet here we are making the same mistakes and not having a plan to overcome the problems. Sometimes you need to close the shop and wait for the door to blow open. N/Castle knew we would struggle with goals so did just that. Leicester did the same and arguably should have taken 3 points.
This could get worrying for Ange. If arse and coventry does not go well and a slow start in Europe. I'd hate to think how the fans will be then.
You would hope that Ricci is back by then. I'm not holding out for Solanke.