49:31 Well this is quite a significant thing about Romania, especially in the context of WWII- the Axis powers took a lot of oil for thier military and logistic needs from Romanian oil fields. Therefore these oil fields were heavily targeted by allied air strikes.
Towards the end when the topic was about China, the speaker was at pains to fit the classical notions about imperialism for China to fit the pattern. Indeed China is investing more in many countries and if this is the ultimate criterion for a country to be labelled "imperialist," then the world must be crawling with many imperialist countries, not necessarily richer ones only, because there are rich investors also coming from poor countries. A country with more investments in a particular country will exercise some influence over the foreign policy, but so do other countries, even if the influence is a smaller one compared to China. Thus in a way, this is standing Lenin on his head, because capitalism is not necessarily fully developed in many countries whose rich capitalists invest in other countries. My problem with this presentation is that the speaker quite loosely uses the term "imperialism." Another point: The Belt and Road Initiative is not about creating another route for China's products, but more about investing to create more viable trading partners, imho. If it is about creating an alternative route, the BRI infrastructure would have to build massive railway systems, since as it was pointed out, the load of containers in one ship would require so many rail cars, so that it does not make sense to say that the railway system can replace a good portion of container shipping. Then there is the jab about "Han Chinese" chauvinism, which imho opinion is quite an unfair characterization, considering that China's poverty alleviation projects are directed also to improve the lives of its 50 or so ethnic groups.
This do not really seem to be so very imperialist either www.voanews.com/east-asia-pacific/voa-news-china/china-worlds-biggest-creditor-delays-debt-repayments-77-nations www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-china-debt/china-open-to-talks-with-poor-countries-on-debt-challenges-chinese-official-idUSKBN21P344
>Indeed China is investing more in many countries and if this is the ultimate criterion for a country to be labelled "imperialist," then the world must be crawling with many imperialist countries Yes, which is why china is one of the world's most imperialist countries
Yes, exactly. That is why China is an imperialist country. Please stop defending China. You people are serious marxists, I don't doubt it, but in the end you will betray the class struggle because you will continue to mindlessly defend Chinas imperialist ruling class.
Lenin’s definition of Imperialism; the domination of finance Capital. Lenin’s five main criteria for his definition of imperialism: “(1) the concentration of production and capital has developed to such a high stage that it has created monopolies which play a decisive role in economic life; (2) the merging of bank capital with industrial capital, and the creation, on the basis of this “finance capital”, of a financial oligarchy; (3) the export of capital as distinguished from the export of commodities acquires exceptional importance; (4) the formation of international monopolist capitalist associations which share the world among themselves, and (5) the territorial division of the whole world among the biggest capitalist powers is completed.” “Imperialism is capitalism at that stage of development at which the dominance of monopolies and finance capital is established; in which the export of capital has acquired pronounced importance; in which the division of the world among the international trusts has begun, in which the division of all territories of the globe among the biggest capitalist powers has been completed.” *quoted from Lenin’s Imperialism: The Highest Stage of Capitalism, VII. imperialism As A Special Stage of Capitalism The country being a capitalist country dominated by private ownership is a given assumption in Lenin’s definition. China does not fit the mold. And foreign investments alone are not the criteria. China does not by any stretch meet (4)and (5) even if you assume the other three.
@@Salomane how do 4 and 5 not apply? The state has a monopoly and they are plugged into a network/division of territories with the biggest capitalist powers.
The rich in Russia lost a lot of wealth, some more than half since the conflict. The labeling of Russia as imperialist is the highest stage of historical revisionism and manipulation, and the highest stage of ignorance.
@@kallashnykov ? The oil oligarchy has grown rich from the increase in fuel costs. Regardless, imperialism is defined by the export and exploitation of capital to other countries which Russia does already in countries like Venezuela and Belarus, not by "capitalists being rich". Do you also believe that workers are defined by being poor?
@@kallashnykov Irrelevant but super cool name btw I understand where your heart lies, with the oppressed Russian people, but we cannot defend Russian oligarchs and as a result, the Borgouise
What your describing is the beauty of capitalism and the American system that is leading to a more peaceful multipolar world. America makes friends and shows it’s enemies how to govern a modern economy to lift all boats.
@@danieljones5754 It wasn't relatively peaceful. The US killed more people since WW2 globally than the nazis in all the direct of proxy wars they carried. Peaceful in the west, cause they exported their bloody money making wars.
Your twisting his words. He said relatively, which is true considering the last few years were spent either starving, being bombed, being shipped off to fight and possibly die on and on... In comparison, the rough times of building back up are incomparable. On this point, I completely disagree right down to your core philosophical start, all the way to your 'proof' and therefore conclusion
It was good until he starts to describe china as imperialist. Seems he doesn't understand the subject matter, I should have known when he dropped the Trotsky quote earlier on.
They have Borgouise that profit off workers. The Chinese government is the enemy, even if they are smart enough to grant many concessions to their citizens, they are capitalists with the luxury of the central planning and stable programs communists put in place. They profit off Mao, they dont defend the people. They invest in suicide nets outside some factories. They are an industrial organ of Capitalism...They are as a result an enemy of socialist progression. They are reactive and use force to defend private property and capital ownership. You have been undialectically mislead "Учитса учитса учитса" (Study study study) Lenin Edit: Incorrect Quote due to mispelling on my part. My sincere apologies, im still learning Russian and have a long way to go. Correction "Учиться учиться учиться"
@@lepidoptera9337 the two are not mutually exclusive. there's a lot to discuss and critique. he was right about some stuff and wrong about others. but his work certainly has a legacy that lives on. less of this cancel culture and more free speech please.
@@lepidoptera9337 well, if you watch the video the chap makes a very good case that he was right about how imperialism works. he was right about the development of a global financial system from imperialism. he was also right in that he says that political consciousness is not organic, an idea that gramsci took and perfected, because lenin was wrong about his conclusion to that idea - the vanguard party (IMO). he was definitely right about the aristocracy of labour and their role as defenders of capitalism from more radical elements. and that's just off the top of my head - i am neither a leninist nor a scholar of lenin but i bet there's more.
Jesus has been dead for 2000 years, if “He” isn’t entirely just a figment of some would-be ruling class enabler’s genius marketing imagination like some 0th century Ronald McDonald. Those peddlers of false consciousness aren’t letting that corpse rest for almost 20 centuries now. They’re relentless with their grift and corruption.
I need more Daniel Morley content
We all do
This is so relevant I was sure it came out within the past year... prophetic
Great talk kinda predicted the US-China trade war we have today
Dialectics are powerful tool
49:31 Well this is quite a significant thing about Romania, especially in the context of WWII- the Axis powers took a lot of oil for thier military and logistic needs from Romanian oil fields. Therefore these oil fields were heavily targeted by allied air strikes.
Very informative and fluid. Very dense as well.
Towards the end when the topic was about China, the speaker was at pains to fit the classical notions about imperialism for China to fit the pattern. Indeed China is investing more in many countries and if this is the ultimate criterion for a country to be labelled "imperialist," then the world must be crawling with many imperialist countries, not necessarily richer ones only, because there are rich investors also coming from poor countries. A country with more investments in a particular country will exercise some influence over the foreign policy, but so do other countries, even if the influence is a smaller one compared to China. Thus in a way, this is standing Lenin on his head, because capitalism is not necessarily fully developed in many countries whose rich capitalists invest in other countries. My problem with this presentation is that the speaker quite loosely uses the term "imperialism." Another point: The Belt and Road Initiative is not about creating another route for China's products, but more about investing to create more viable trading partners, imho. If it is about creating an alternative route, the BRI infrastructure would have to build massive railway systems, since as it was pointed out, the load of containers in one ship would require so many rail cars, so that it does not make sense to say that the railway system can replace a good portion of container shipping. Then there is the jab about "Han Chinese" chauvinism, which imho opinion is quite an unfair characterization, considering that China's poverty alleviation projects are directed also to improve the lives of its 50 or so ethnic groups.
This do not really seem to be so very imperialist either
www.voanews.com/east-asia-pacific/voa-news-china/china-worlds-biggest-creditor-delays-debt-repayments-77-nations
www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-china-debt/china-open-to-talks-with-poor-countries-on-debt-challenges-chinese-official-idUSKBN21P344
>Indeed China is investing more in many countries and if this is the ultimate criterion for a country to be labelled "imperialist," then the world must be crawling with many imperialist countries
Yes, which is why china is one of the world's most imperialist countries
Yes, exactly. That is why China is an imperialist country.
Please stop defending China. You people are serious marxists, I don't doubt it, but in the end you will betray the class struggle because you will continue to mindlessly defend Chinas imperialist ruling class.
Lenin’s definition of Imperialism; the domination of finance Capital.
Lenin’s five main criteria for his definition of imperialism:
“(1) the concentration of production and capital has developed to such a high stage that it has created monopolies which play a decisive role in economic life; (2) the merging of bank capital with industrial capital, and the creation, on the basis of this “finance capital”, of a financial oligarchy; (3) the export of capital as distinguished from the export of commodities acquires exceptional importance; (4) the formation of international monopolist capitalist associations which share the world among themselves, and (5) the territorial division of the whole world among the biggest capitalist powers is completed.”
“Imperialism is capitalism at that stage of development at which the dominance of monopolies and finance capital is established; in which the export of capital has acquired pronounced importance; in which the division of the world among the international trusts has begun, in which the division of all territories of the globe among the biggest capitalist powers has been completed.”
*quoted from Lenin’s Imperialism: The Highest Stage of Capitalism, VII. imperialism As A Special Stage of Capitalism
The country being a capitalist country dominated by private ownership is a given assumption in Lenin’s definition. China does not fit the mold. And foreign investments alone are not the criteria. China does not by any stretch meet (4)and (5) even if you assume the other three.
@@Salomane how do 4 and 5 not apply? The state has a monopoly and they are plugged into a network/division of territories with the biggest capitalist powers.
This vid is remarkably relevant during the current imperialist crisis in Ukraine
The rich in Russia lost a lot of wealth, some more than half since the conflict. The labeling of Russia as imperialist is the highest stage of historical revisionism and manipulation, and the highest stage of ignorance.
@@kallashnykov ? The oil oligarchy has grown rich from the increase in fuel costs. Regardless, imperialism is defined by the export and exploitation of capital to other countries which Russia does already in countries like Venezuela and Belarus, not by "capitalists being rich". Do you also believe that workers are defined by being poor?
@@kallashnykov
Irrelevant but super cool name btw
I understand where your heart lies, with the oppressed Russian people, but we cannot defend Russian oligarchs and as a result, the Borgouise
What surplus contents the non-imperialist third world's labor movements and thus reformism?
This video gives off a Children of Men vibe somehow...
Well done
Liquidity traps, right?
What your describing is the beauty of capitalism and the American system that is leading to a more peaceful multipolar world. America makes friends and shows it’s enemies how to govern a modern economy to lift all boats.
Also the fact that this guy thinks the post WW2 period was peaceful, really telling.
Tbf he did stress the point it was relatively peaceful not simply peaceful
@@danieljones5754 It wasn't relatively peaceful. The US killed more people since WW2 globally than the nazis in all the direct of proxy wars they carried. Peaceful in the west, cause they exported their bloody money making wars.
Your twisting his words. He said relatively, which is true considering the last few years were spent either starving, being bombed, being shipped off to fight and possibly die on and on...
In comparison, the rough times of building back up are incomparable. On this point, I completely disagree right down to your core philosophical start, all the way to your 'proof' and therefore conclusion
@@0NEisN0THING It wasn't relatively peaceful at all. Not even in the west lol. The US killed tens of millions globally since then alone.
love the books in the background. STALIN X 3 =
Stalin
It's an anti-stalin book written by Leon Trotsky
@@smalbeaste haha. 😂😂😂
It was good until he starts to describe china as imperialist. Seems he doesn't understand the subject matter, I should have known when he dropped the Trotsky quote earlier on.
They have Borgouise that profit off workers. The Chinese government is the enemy, even if they are smart enough to grant many concessions to their citizens, they are capitalists with the luxury of the central planning and stable programs communists put in place. They profit off Mao, they dont defend the people. They invest in suicide nets outside some factories. They are an industrial organ of Capitalism...They are as a result an enemy of socialist progression.
They are reactive and use force to defend private property and capital ownership.
You have been undialectically mislead
"Учитса учитса учитса"
(Study study study)
Lenin
Edit: Incorrect Quote due to mispelling on my part. My sincere apologies, im still learning Russian and have a long way to go.
Correction
"Учиться учиться учиться"
Lenin has been dead for almost a century, guys. Let the corpse rest.
how long is a philosopher dead for before we are no longer allowed to discuss and critique their work?
@@lepidoptera9337 the two are not mutually exclusive. there's a lot to discuss and critique. he was right about some stuff and wrong about others. but his work certainly has a legacy that lives on. less of this cancel culture and more free speech please.
@@lepidoptera9337 well, if you watch the video the chap makes a very good case that he was right about how imperialism works. he was right about the development of a global financial system from imperialism. he was also right in that he says that political consciousness is not organic, an idea that gramsci took and perfected, because lenin was wrong about his conclusion to that idea - the vanguard party (IMO). he was definitely right about the aristocracy of labour and their role as defenders of capitalism from more radical elements. and that's just off the top of my head - i am neither a leninist nor a scholar of lenin but i bet there's more.
@@lepidoptera9337 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect x
Jesus has been dead for 2000 years, if “He” isn’t entirely just a figment of some would-be ruling class enabler’s genius marketing imagination like some 0th century Ronald McDonald.
Those peddlers of false consciousness aren’t letting that corpse rest for almost 20 centuries now. They’re relentless with their grift and corruption.