The cracks were already showing in 2019 when every movie that wasn’t a blockbuster bombed but the pandemic accelerated that trend exponentially. People just don’t see movies in theaters unless they’re seen as big events. Many of us spent 2 whole years without going to a theater so any preexisting moviegoing habits have been broken. An extreme saturation of content on streaming made this even worse.
NOPE…THE MOVIE THEATERS EXPERIENCE WAS DYING UNTIL MARVEL CAME ALONG..THAT MEANS CONSUMERS WAS NOT GOING.THE ECONOMY IS HORRIBLE BUT THEATERS ARE NOT NEEDED ANYMORE..
Execs have the power and leverage to sway theaters, marketing teams, lower department heads, etc. But most of them care more about their bottom dollar than the longevity and (healthy) success of the entities they're representing. I wasn't just talking about theaters. Every corner of the machine that is Hollywood is struggling. Grace even mentioned this in last weeks movie math. There's more content than quality, and no order across theaters, cable channels, streaming platforms, parks, etc. Nothing is even.
@@packedentertainment2866 THAT MAKES NO SENSE…STREAMING IS WINNING BECAUSE OF THE CONSUMERS..MOVIES ARE TO EXPENSIVE AND A LIST IS GREAT IF YOU ARE SINGLE AND GOES TO THE MOVIES ALL THE TIME..
The movie industry needs to recognize we are living in an INFLATION. Your movie has to be SPECTACULAR from now on to open to $40million(smaller budget films) or $100 million opening(bigger budget films). We have a dozen streaming services, RUclips, Twitch, Social Media, and Gaming now as easy-to-use Entertainment options; with not having to deal with ANNOYING kids, teenagers, or rowdy crowds, and cheap snacks from a movie theater.
@@asecmimosas4536The pandemic might not be an excuse anymore but inflation sure is. A lot of people who had a little disposable income pre-pandemic are living paycheck to paycheck now.
@@NESbrownbearhugs that has historically always been true but it's not more true now than at any point in the past 5 years. I don't know if you keep up with the economy at all, but the consumer is actually doing quite well, only very very recently are there even the slightest signs that the consumer market might be cooling, but by and large people have a lot of disposable income, their checkable balances are very high, the delinquency rate is very low, etc etc etc.
It proves that people will go to see QUALITY over dumb cgi explosions and movie star names. Fans are craving unique new stories. All American Hollywood has given us is recycled garbage sequels that aren’t even good let alone movie ticket price quality
People want to see Anya in a weird David Fincher film not something like Furiosa. That's her niche, an Awards actress LOL. She's still young she can garner a bigger fanbase like Emma Stone whose fans will see her in something like Cruella and Poor Things, like me LOL
The Super Mario bros. movie? Dune part two? Split & Glass? The menu? Thoroughbreds? Maybe Wolverine & deadpool if the new mutants show up or at least get referenced, she literally embodied Magik & looked exactly like her from comics to real life. She has an extremely huge fanbase
The Menu was great. Last Night in Soho was great. Neither were blockbusters. But Margot Robbie was in how many flops before Barbie? Anya will be fine. I agree that she is not branded for action movies. She fits horror and indie dramas perfectly.
@@deenaprice1524 um … bad comparison, don’t mention that dumpster fire movie that didn’t deserve a billion dollars at the box office nor did it deserve any nominations at all at the Oscars. Plus, Margot wasn’t the biggest factor driving people to that mess of a movie.
I don’t think that’s as true as others believe it to be. People are still spending on entertainment, just not on movie theaters. Audiences have been trained to stay home by all the changes that took place during the pandemic and won’t go see a movie unless it’s a big event.
Sounds like cope. FRED's Real disposable personal income chart shows real disposable personal income being larger than before the pandemic and its been steady for the past year.
You might mean “shareholder” value. Stakeholder value would include stakeholders like workers, customers, and shareholders, and the studios definitely don’t give a shit about workers or consumers.
I just finished speaking with a friend. He said did you wat Furiosa?! I said hell yeah on Dolby, you? He replied, "My phone!" I think the problem is money. People can not afford the theater experience.
It’s crazy how quickly things pivoted for Hollywood. 2012 - 2019 were the golden years of Hollywood! Billion dollar movies, popular franchises, fan fare, etc. Come 2020 to nowadays, movies open at much less, to little fan fare, and Hollywood exec’s ruining everything. We’ll have to sit back and watch as this unfolds.
This happened in the late sixties/early seventies with the fall of the musical genre. The industry was losing money with almost every picture. Then came the 'Movie Brats' (Spielberg, De Palma) who reinvigorated the box office. I have hope something similar will happen, however, the rise of streaming/free at home media will be the biggest hurdle modern Hollywood faces.
@@williambudd1209Dune 2 imo is answer. That's a movie you HAD to see in theatres and the experience was more than anything streaming a movie could do.
Bad Boys opening with $56M is very respectable and proof that slap didn’t effect his box office. Happy for Will Smith, Adil El Arbi & Bilall Fallah. Give the Directors Spider-man 4
Young Woman and the See SHOULD be a wide release. As someone who isn't a big Disney fan they NEED they make more "normal" movies like they used to: Parent Trap, Cool Runnings, Saving Mr. Banks, etc.
Anya was terrific in the very successful The Menu. Budgets just have to drop. Y’know…before Jaws in 1975 there was no summer movie season. Maybe we’re blockbustered out and returning to that time.
movie budgets may have gone up but household theater ticket budgets have not. Why should the studios be surprised people don't see as many movies as we did 10 years ago??
Yes, Garfield had a budget of "just" $60 million and made $152 million in two weeks. So it will not wait for digital to make money, it will most likely achieve that during its theatrical release window. Reasonable budgets work miracles.
@@zenithquasar9623 That's why i said it will "most likely" achieve profitability during its theatrical release. It has brought in around $70 million already, ten more than its production cost. This is not a juggernaut carrying a $100 million marketing budget.
It's almost entirely prequels, sequels, or remakes. Music is all rehashed or borrowed or programmed. Pop culture no longer has its own culture, but we're just going to keep over analyzing it until we find a higher transparency that somehow makes things interesting again smh.
Excited for Bad Boys 4, it was one of the last films I watched before 2020 quarantine (Alongside Sonic) and it was fun, hoping this new one brings the same energy
Inside Out 2 will be just fine with “Young Woman and the Sea” hitting on streaming….honestly, who’s gonna even know that that movie will be out on Disney+ the same day. 😅
Very high ticket prices, many other forms of entertainment at the tip of the fingertips are what's killing the movie industry. And most movies today are so uninteresting.
Such a shame for Furiosa. I saw it again yesterday with my husband and he really enjoyed it. He’s on OG Mad Max fan and loved the world building. For me it doesn’t hold a candle to Dune 2 but it still has a lot of artistic merit, and Chris Hemsworth’s performance doesn’t lose its impact on second viewing. At least Bluey is waving the Aussie flag and keeping Disney up there :)
There’s plenty of good movies, everything that’s underperforming (Furiosa, The Fall Guy, Challengers, Civil War) are well regarded but just not making enough money
indeed, all was doom and gloom for June 2023 until Barbeninheimer opened mere weeks later to save the summer box office to 3 billion for first time since 2019
Thanks again for recommending Young Woman and the Sea, something to offer my grandparents. They went to Civil War a couple weeks ago thinking it was about the real American civil war lol.
Instead of sending Garfield to an adventure, they should have brought the adventure to him. That would have made more sense. Like maybe wild new neighbors who are threatening his chill/lazy life
those scenes were directly lifted from Fury Road. I rewatched Fury Road the day before watching Furiosa in theaters and they're the exact same shots. They did *not* call up Charlize Theron to record more scenes just for Furiosa. @@Ne0Nights
Glen Powell isn't the problem. They waited almost 30 years to make a sequel to Twister and it's a waste. It doesn't introduce anything jawdropping or bring back the classic actors, so who cares? Maverick did both of those things.
But tornados on the big screen are suspenseful and cinematic. I'm positive it's gonna be huge if they promote it as an event film. Will they? Idk... And how often are people on-time for trailers these days when they go watch a movie? That's a gold opportunity they maybe miss. But IMAX is the key.💙
I think the main issue is... what's the point in going to movie theaters if everything releases digitally in 3 weeks to a month, and gets pirate-able in HD. Especially when everything is sooo expensive now, and these streaming services are trying to milk us with constant price increases. :/
I think the only way the theatrical model can stay in business is to make it feel very premium. Amazing chairs, kick out anyone who even looks at their cell phone, and hey, maybe don't sell a ticket to that guy coughing non stop who insists on going to a movie when he clearly ought to be in bed or the hospital. But it won't exist at the scale it does today. And I know Grace you really love the theater experience (despite being a germaphobe which is a little weird). But it just won't persist the way it has been.
Even then it wouldn’t save it. It will become a novelty like drive in theaters and stage shows like broadway. There needs to be massive closures of theaters and lower move budgets.
Garfield is doing fine. Haven't seen it mysealf but its looking like its going to end its run in the 250-300+ milion range worldwide. So its still a win on a very low budget.
Inside Out 2 won’t “ flop” but it won’t perform anywhere near where Pixar used to . Look at Lightyear and Elemental … the ONLY movie the rest of the year that will be a box office “ smash “ is Deadpool . We continue each week to see theaters fall into obscurity.
Ironically, elemental was pixar most successful original pixar since 2017 Coco at nearly $500 million, even outgrossing Puss in Boots: The Last Wish,. In the years since covid, all their originals went straight to streaming
Lightyear and Elemental are very mediocre movies at best in my opinion, so IF Inside out 2 just stay at same quality as original one, it should be successful enough.
Young woman and the sea was a weird and horrible realese strategy. This crowd pleasers in slow time usually make good money, for instance boys in the boat made over 50 million domestic
Big mistake sidelining Charlize Theron. She MADE Furiosa. That character is hers. She’s still physically fit and she could have played this version of the character easily especially with the negligible time gap between Furiosa and Fury Road. I don’t understand why she wasn’t in Furiosa.
@@The_Megabito correct on both counts. It’s unused footage from Fury Road added to the end of the movie. But I’m just saying she technically still was in the movie.
I think the reason Disney is not worried about Young woman and the sea and Inside out 2. They figure that Inside out 2 appeals to kids, where Young woman and the sea would not but mainly older viewers.
"Daisney" Ridley's film _The Marsh King's Daughter_ died the weekend it opened alongside _Priscilla_ and the one I saw, _What Happens Later,_ which my aunt described as a "two-person play" and also died.
Inside Out 2 will be lucky to crack 100M. My bet is somewhere in the mid to high 80s. The latest press around Pixar definitely is killing interest in their movies, I know I’ve been frustrated with it. I think the only movie likely to open north of 100M is Deadpool & Wolverine. But it’ll probably just squeak by.
It’s not the West that is not used to subtitles or dubbed content. It’s US audience only. Pretty much all European countries have a long tradition of professional dubbing.
That's a ridiculous generalization, I can't think of a single movie this year where anyone involved said "Don't watch", only thing that springs to mind is the new Doctor Who and that's neither Hollywood nor a movie
Few things Grace needs to take into account: The rise in the cost of living and the market outside of America. I also know people who never go to the cinema on the first few weeks. I only went to Fall Guy last week.
I'm so happy for White Collar placing in the Top 10 two weeks in a row. Such a great series. I'm glad it's finally getting the audience it deserves via Netflix.
I genuinely can't believe there's nothing in cinemas to draw people in ....like genuinely tv and streaming feels dry too besides Doctor Who on Friday at midnight ....there's nothing much on
That’s so great that The Garfield Movie & IF prove that family movies can be hits in theaters! That’s a great sign for both Inside Out 2 & Despicable Me 4!
I think Furiosa shot itself in the foot by being a prequel and replacing Charlize Theron. Replacing the actress randomly made the movie seem disconnected from the previous film. Theron IS Furiosa in most Fury Road fans.
IDK about "true fan" elitism anymore. Dubs have a culture around them, and some have strong actors. Good stories need to be shared with as many people as possible, and dub audio has its place. BETTER TO HAVE A DUB, THAN A HOLLYWOOD REMAKE FILM. Right? American remakes are 99 percent terrible, and 100 percent unnecessary 😑
I think every movie window should go back to a 3 month release after their theater run. I also think that they just want to get ahead of the bootleggers who are stealing their movies.
2020 changed a lot. It’s not just prices in conjunction with the pandemic. People just found better things to do. Hobbies, non-theatre family related activities, or better options on streaming. Shoot I kicked my audiobook habit into high gear. With a proper imagination and decent attention span books or audiobooks can rival a movie for entertainment and excitement. I personally have not been interested in the movies outside of “events” movies. Which is why Deadpool and wolverine will likely murder the box office the way Barbenheimer did.
Deadpool 3 is one movie so it will not come close to what Barbenheimer grossed overall. It will likely gross more than Oppenheimer domestically but much less than Barbie
Very impressed with Fallout! Hope it can stay consistent. Sad to hear about how the low Memorial Day weekend box office performances. About JLo, I heard her tour was about 75% sold with about a month to go before she nixed it.. I’ve seen a lot worse so not sure why so many are convinced the ticket sales were the main reason
Greed is what going to destroy Hollywood. Between hiring mediocre writers and directors. Out of touch producers . And this sense of need to push agendas down the throats of fans. This is what's destroying Hollywood.
Does the slap still matter to people outside of the internet bubble? It happened 3 years ago and none of my family and friends care and are just excited for more Bad Boys.
A woman told me she doesn't care to see Will Smith again (until he gets his life in order?). Nobody showed up for _Emancipation._ I, however, have been saying I'd rather see _King Richard_ about Serena and Venus Williams again than _Challengers._
@@sandal_thong8631 None of those films are Bad Boys the franchise though (and how many people run to the theaters to see a film about slavery?). Did she see the other Bad Boys films and is just not going to the new one? Just curious because I wonder how real this thing is to the franchise's fanbase.
I think its possible that it matters much more to ppl who dont watch Bad Boys anyways, but it can still put off few poten. viewers. Whether it matters to few ppl, or more thats the question.
I like Glen Powell, I agree on the overexposure currently all depends on how Hitman is received by public, but taking the month off, which is probably his play, is the strong option, and then he’s riding smooth on forward to establishing himself as a savior of CINEMA
You know what's crazy I have a side hustle, a crochet business, and I too had a horrible May. I think people are just overspent and find it harder to head to the movies
Couple things causing this: 1. The movies are subpar. Dune was good and apes was decent, but outside of that nothing has really piqued the general audience interest. 2. Movie theaters tickets and concession prices are pretty outrageous, combine that with a subpar experience offered and this is the outcome. Why go to the theater for more money for a worse experience than my home? The movie needs to be truly worthy of going out to the theater or most will just wait.
short form vids like tiktok shorts etc have fried alot of people's brain Gen z and Alpha especially. They cannot watch something without doing something else in the background. Theaters are the opposite of this
I think it's too many options/releases than ever before. People dont have time to watch/play every release so they rather wait and/or pick and choose rather than consume every release
I will be watching The Acolyte, Evil season 4 episode 3, and I’m just itching to go back to the movie theater for the first time this year for Inside Out 2 in a couple weeks.
I've been thinking about the box office problems and I have a big question. Tracking goes by how much we spend that week, right? Does that factor in AMC's A List and other theaters programs where people are not paying for movies that week? I'm seeing free movies all the time with AMC people can see three movies a week. Maybe there should be tracking on how many tickets are actually "sold" to see how films are doing and not just about how much they make. I'll see Bad Boys in a theater, for free.
units sold would just make it all look so much worse, ticket sales have gone up faster than inflation and there are all the premium screens (IMAX) that charge more
I believe (note: I am not american but I've listened to people talk abotu the service) that AMC has a deal with studios that your A-list ticket does contribute towards box office.
yes, it has, Iger is steering the ship around by cutting costs down on streaming, bundling it with Hulu and soon with Max, added ad tiers, raising its subscription prices, going the Netflix route in removing password sharing, depending on the sequels to their established brands as in Frozen 3,4 Zootopia 2, Incredibles 3, investing $60 billion into their theme parks via expansions like Pandora, Wakanda, Frozen, Avengers Campus, etc.
Disney have inside out, deadpool, moana and lion king still to come this year those will all easily make their money back. Disney is like thanos, run from it all you want but peoples' wallets will always come running back.
The “every weekend” moviegoing culture of half a century ago simply doesn’t exist anymore.
The cracks were already showing in 2019 when every movie that wasn’t a blockbuster bombed but the pandemic accelerated that trend exponentially. People just don’t see movies in theaters unless they’re seen as big events. Many of us spent 2 whole years without going to a theater so any preexisting moviegoing habits have been broken. An extreme saturation of content on streaming made this even worse.
@@_KungFuBarbie_did u watch the moviepass documentary on max? Ppl are willing to go to the movies multiples times a week just for $10 a month
Its the exorbitant costs that prevents most of the general public from going multiple times a month or even a year
@@luismedrano6680I didn’t but I’ll certainly look into it thanks
@@_KungFuBarbie_ So reduce the movies on streaming and don’t realise movies that go theatrical until 9 months after initial realise.
If you listen closely...in the distance you can hear charlize theron laughing 😅
She is saying "Remember me?"
Charlize was in Furiosa
For real, did she shoot new scenes, or was it reused footage from Fury Road...?
@@JoseBraghiroli I’m assuming unused Fury Road footage bc all the original actresses for the wives were also there
Really?
WB is for sure going to throw everything they’ve got behind Dune 2 and Joker 2. Poor Furiosa
They promoted it like crazy...Anya Taylor Joy was everywhere on every damn talk show promoting this.
Executives are killing Hollywood and entertainment.
?? Care to elaborate
NOPE…THE MOVIE THEATERS EXPERIENCE WAS DYING UNTIL MARVEL CAME ALONG..THAT MEANS CONSUMERS WAS NOT GOING.THE ECONOMY IS HORRIBLE BUT THEATERS ARE NOT NEEDED ANYMORE..
Execs have the power and leverage to sway theaters, marketing teams, lower department heads, etc. But most of them care more about their bottom dollar than the longevity and (healthy) success of the entities they're representing.
I wasn't just talking about theaters. Every corner of the machine that is Hollywood is struggling. Grace even mentioned this in last weeks movie math.
There's more content than quality, and no order across theaters, cable channels, streaming platforms, parks, etc. Nothing is even.
Streaming is killing theaters. The government has to ban a few of em
@@packedentertainment2866 THAT MAKES NO SENSE…STREAMING IS WINNING BECAUSE OF THE CONSUMERS..MOVIES ARE TO EXPENSIVE AND A LIST IS GREAT IF YOU ARE SINGLE AND GOES TO THE MOVIES ALL THE TIME..
" Young Woman and the Sea" should have opened in the Fall perhaps in September if they were hoping for any awards considerations.
The movie industry needs to recognize we are living in an INFLATION. Your movie has to be SPECTACULAR from now on to open to $40million(smaller budget films) or $100 million opening(bigger budget films).
We have a dozen streaming services, RUclips, Twitch, Social Media, and Gaming now as easy-to-use Entertainment options; with not having to deal with ANNOYING kids, teenagers, or rowdy crowds, and cheap snacks from a movie theater.
Overlooking inflation is crazy....
The pandemic and inflation really hurt the theaters.
A lot of people just play the wait game for a movie to be watched on a streaming service.
I’m one of the many . I haven’t been to the theater in years .
The pandemic is a bad excuse given the box offices for 2022 and 2023.
@asecmimosas4536 Not everyone has money to watch a movie at the threaters.
@@asecmimosas4536The pandemic might not be an excuse anymore but inflation sure is. A lot of people who had a little disposable income pre-pandemic are living paycheck to paycheck now.
@@NESbrownbearhugs that has historically always been true but it's not more true now than at any point in the past 5 years. I don't know if you keep up with the economy at all, but the consumer is actually doing quite well, only very very recently are there even the slightest signs that the consumer market might be cooling, but by and large people have a lot of disposable income, their checkable balances are very high, the delinquency rate is very low, etc etc etc.
Twister didn’t come out “like 20 years ago”, it came out nearly 30 years ago in 1996.
Thats like 20 years ago
@@Ihaveafearof No, 1996 is 28 years ago. Do you not understand maths or language?
Godzilla Minus One proves that this movie did very well with a modest budget.
They made a much better movie than Hollywood
It proves that people will go to see QUALITY over dumb cgi explosions and movie star names. Fans are craving unique new stories. All American Hollywood has given us is recycled garbage sequels that aren’t even good let alone movie ticket price quality
Hollywood is just making movies most people don't care to see, with super inflated budgets that's pretty much their problem.
@harrismatthew5553 but they went to see the dumb godzilla x kong movie
True, but Japan is pretty notorious for abusing its animators and VFX artists (not like the US hasn’t been guilty of that lately)
People want to see Anya in a weird David Fincher film not something like Furiosa. That's her niche, an Awards actress LOL. She's still young she can garner a bigger fanbase like Emma Stone whose fans will see her in something like Cruella and Poor Things, like me LOL
Yes! I completely agree! I finally watched Poor Things last night and it reminded me why Cruella is my favorite Disney movie!
The Super Mario bros. movie? Dune part two? Split & Glass? The menu? Thoroughbreds? Maybe Wolverine & deadpool if the new mutants show up or at least get referenced, she literally embodied Magik & looked exactly like her from comics to real life. She has an extremely huge fanbase
@@packedentertainment2866 And where did that "huge fanbase" go these last two weeks?
The Menu was great. Last Night in Soho was great. Neither were blockbusters. But Margot Robbie was in how many flops before Barbie? Anya will be fine. I agree that she is not branded for action movies. She fits horror and indie dramas perfectly.
@@deenaprice1524 um … bad comparison, don’t mention that dumpster fire movie that didn’t deserve a billion dollars at the box office nor did it deserve any nominations at all at the Oscars. Plus, Margot wasn’t the biggest factor driving people to that mess of a movie.
The main thing right now is that people do not have disposable income right now
The movies are not up to par,their forgettable poorly written re hashes..if Endgame came out today it would make bank.
I don’t think that’s as true as others believe it to be. People are still spending on entertainment, just not on movie theaters. Audiences have been trained to stay home by all the changes that took place during the pandemic and won’t go see a movie unless it’s a big event.
Sounds like cope. FRED's Real disposable personal income chart shows real disposable personal income being larger than before the pandemic and its been steady for the past year.
@@originaldeltaIf that was true then why are these films doing well on digital. Yes some are bad ( that’s every year) but quality is major factor.
Money would be found if there was a top gun out there
It would be wild if Twisters opened to 100M.
lololol.
Hee hee not happening
Over 70 would be wild
That has flop written all over it
I just looked it up and twisters has a 200 million budget. What were they thinking?
Stakeholder value. Two words representing studios and their movies lately. Consumers have had enough and voting with their wallets.
You might mean “shareholder” value. Stakeholder value would include stakeholders like workers, customers, and shareholders, and the studios definitely don’t give a shit about workers or consumers.
@@qwertyuiopaaaaaaa7 it isn't shareholder value either, look at the cratering value of the stock. They are doing this for virtual praise.
I just finished speaking with a friend. He said did you wat Furiosa?! I said hell yeah on Dolby, you? He replied, "My phone!" I think the problem is money. People can not afford the theater experience.
The only thing that could bring Pixar back is a John Lasseter-level creative mind.
Persona non grata…
It’s crazy how quickly things pivoted for Hollywood. 2012 - 2019 were the golden years of Hollywood! Billion dollar movies, popular franchises, fan fare, etc.
Come 2020 to nowadays, movies open at much less, to little fan fare, and Hollywood exec’s ruining everything.
We’ll have to sit back and watch as this unfolds.
This happened in the late sixties/early seventies with the fall of the musical genre. The industry was losing money with almost every picture. Then came the 'Movie Brats' (Spielberg, De Palma) who reinvigorated the box office. I have hope something similar will happen, however, the rise of streaming/free at home media will be the biggest hurdle modern Hollywood faces.
@@williambudd1209Dune 2 imo is answer. That's a movie you HAD to see in theatres and the experience was more than anything streaming a movie could do.
I just don't have the time to consume medicore content
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there were tons of good movies in april if you can't find something to watch that's a bit of a skill issue *shrug*
Bad Boys opening with $56M is very respectable and proof that slap didn’t effect his box office. Happy for Will Smith, Adil El Arbi & Bilall Fallah. Give the Directors Spider-man 4
Young Woman and the See SHOULD be a wide release. As someone who isn't a big Disney fan they NEED they make more "normal" movies like they used to: Parent Trap, Cool Runnings, Saving Mr. Banks, etc.
Anya was terrific in the very successful The Menu. Budgets just have to drop. Y’know…before Jaws in 1975 there was no summer movie season. Maybe we’re blockbustered out and returning to that time.
movie budgets may have gone up but household theater ticket budgets have not. Why should the studios be surprised people don't see as many movies as we did 10 years ago??
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Yes, Garfield had a budget of "just" $60 million and made $152 million in two weeks. So it will not wait for digital to make money, it will most likely achieve that during its theatrical release window. Reasonable budgets work miracles.
How about marketing and distribution costs?
@@zenithquasar9623 That's why i said it will "most likely" achieve profitability during its theatrical release. It has brought in around $70 million already, ten more than its production cost. This is not a juggernaut carrying a $100 million marketing budget.
It's almost entirely prequels, sequels, or remakes. Music is all rehashed or borrowed or programmed. Pop culture no longer has its own culture, but we're just going to keep over analyzing it until we find a higher transparency that somehow makes things interesting again smh.
Thank you for your hard work queen.
Excited for Bad Boys 4, it was one of the last films I watched before 2020 quarantine (Alongside Sonic) and it was fun, hoping this new one brings the same energy
Nothing like movie math to complete my Sunday afternoon
Inside Out 2 will be just fine with “Young Woman and the Sea” hitting on streaming….honestly, who’s gonna even know that that movie will be out on Disney+ the same day. 😅
Very high ticket prices, many other forms of entertainment at the tip of the fingertips are what's killing the movie industry. And most movies today are so uninteresting.
Nobody ain’t getting tired of Glenn Powell, Grace! I need as much Glenn Powell as I can get, his smile is basically a serotonin boost! 🤩
Let's be honest, Furiosa is 7 years too late. 😂
I just watched Stagecoach (1939) yesterday at home. I haven't seen something of that quality put out by Hollywood since the pre-pandemic.
Such a shame for Furiosa. I saw it again yesterday with my husband and he really enjoyed it. He’s on OG Mad Max fan and loved the world building. For me it doesn’t hold a candle to Dune 2 but it still has a lot of artistic merit, and Chris Hemsworth’s performance doesn’t lose its impact on second viewing. At least Bluey is waving the Aussie flag and keeping Disney up there :)
Will and Martin have been promoting Bad Boys 4 big time. I can definitely see it opening huge this weekend since they aren’t competing with anything!
How are you defining “huge” ?. I see maybe a 45-55 million domestic opening .
Please!Go back to releasing videos on videos every 3 months-Save Movie Houses & I'm🙏for Bad Boys 4-C'Mon-Will & Martin💖
It's gonna flopped loll, Will smith ruined his career
Bad Boys 4 is gonna a flop.
People who love Bad Boys movies don’t care about what Will Smith did.
Is Grace panicking that her livelihood might be coming to an end?
I think Hollywood/Video Games are spending too much money on garbage... We need to go back to have a good script, THEN make the product.
You would think those CEOs would realize this but maybe all the money they made from lazy audiences with bad movies has blinded them
There is Baulder's Gate 3 now and Grand Theft Auto next year. I believe this year's movie is suppose to be Helldivers 2.
@@orlock20 there was also tekken 8 and final fantasy 7 rebirth earlier this year and spider man 2 and mk 1 last fall
Good scripts come to be in the absence of DEI.
There’s plenty of good movies, everything that’s underperforming (Furiosa, The Fall Guy, Challengers, Civil War) are well regarded but just not making enough money
I'll never forget how depressing last June was, with a supposed "murderer's row" of big IP releases all crashing and burning one week after the next.
indeed, all was doom and gloom for June 2023 until Barbeninheimer opened mere weeks later to save the summer box office to 3 billion for first time since 2019
Bad Boys 4 this weekend! Hope its a hoot!
Thanks again for recommending Young Woman and the Sea, something to offer my grandparents. They went to Civil War a couple weeks ago thinking it was about the real American civil war lol.
Instead of sending Garfield to an adventure, they should have brought the adventure to him. That would have made more sense. Like maybe wild new neighbors who are threatening his chill/lazy life
still think Furiosa should have brought back Charlize Theron. Seems like one of the worst decisions taking a franchise in recent history.
But Anya Taylor was really good in it. She really was.
@@Ghosthound_XShe was but most would rather see a continuation of the character and not a prequel.
Charlize was literally in the movie at the end
those scenes were directly lifted from Fury Road. I rewatched Fury Road the day before watching Furiosa in theaters and they're the exact same shots. They did *not* call up Charlize Theron to record more scenes just for Furiosa. @@Ne0Nights
@@ta21l who's most? the handful of people who saw Fury Road?
Glen Powell isn't the problem. They waited almost 30 years to make a sequel to Twister and it's a waste. It doesn't introduce anything jawdropping or bring back the classic actors, so who cares? Maverick did both of those things.
agreed. They should've brought back Helen Hunt.
But tornados on the big screen are suspenseful and cinematic. I'm positive it's gonna be huge if they promote it as an event film. Will they? Idk... And how often are people on-time for trailers these days when they go watch a movie? That's a gold opportunity they maybe miss. But IMAX is the key.💙
I think the main issue is... what's the point in going to movie theaters if everything releases digitally in 3 weeks to a month, and gets pirate-able in HD. Especially when everything is sooo expensive now, and these streaming services are trying to milk us with constant price increases. :/
They had a missed opportunity I think. They should have called the third film Bad Boys: Rude or Die and this one Bad Boys 4 Life😂
I think the only way the theatrical model can stay in business is to make it feel very premium. Amazing chairs, kick out anyone who even looks at their cell phone, and hey, maybe don't sell a ticket to that guy coughing non stop who insists on going to a movie when he clearly ought to be in bed or the hospital. But it won't exist at the scale it does today. And I know Grace you really love the theater experience (despite being a germaphobe which is a little weird). But it just won't persist the way it has been.
Even then it wouldn’t save it. It will become a novelty like drive in theaters and stage shows like broadway. There needs to be massive closures of theaters and lower move budgets.
I always look forward to these videos - Thanks Grace
Garfield is doing fine. Haven't seen it mysealf but its looking like its going to end its run in the 250-300+ milion range worldwide. So its still a win on a very low budget.
Inside Out 2 won’t “ flop” but it won’t perform anywhere near where Pixar used to . Look at Lightyear and Elemental … the ONLY movie the rest of the year that will be a box office “ smash “ is Deadpool . We continue each week to see theaters fall into obscurity.
For us A24 fans who don't care about blockbusters maXXXine is our summer movie!
@@MaxxRemKing1 I look forward to Nosferatu as well
Ironically, elemental was pixar most successful original pixar since 2017 Coco at nearly $500 million, even outgrossing Puss in Boots: The Last Wish,. In the years since covid, all their originals went straight to streaming
Elemental still lost money where as Puss in boots 2 made a good profit. It’s all down to the budgets.
Lightyear and Elemental are very mediocre movies at best in my opinion, so IF Inside out 2 just stay at same quality as original one, it should be successful enough.
Box office will never be what it was before pandemic
Godzilla Minus One should have swept the Oscars.
13:18 Did everyone just forget that she's Princess Peach in the Super Mario Bros Movie?
Write a song about it
Thank you Grace. A wonderful way to end my weekend. XoXo from Argentina🇦🇷
Godzilla Minus Color was released for One Week in January and made 50 million domestic.
This was an AMAZING movie math. Thanks for the breakdown
Young woman and the sea was a weird and horrible realese strategy. This crowd pleasers in slow time usually make good money, for instance boys in the boat made over 50 million domestic
I kinda wish Disney+ ate Hulu instead of having 2 payments.
Not me. I don’t want Disney+ content. Hulu is a far better service. Much more diversity for shows and movies
basically everywhere except the US it is (is here, at least)
Hollywood ditched the meritocracy, and now we're seeing the fallout.
Bad Boys 4 will be the best summer movie until Deadpool and Wolverine drops....🔥🔥🔥
Furiosa is one of the best films I’ve seen in ages. I hope word of mouth spreads! 🤞
Yeah it will do well on streaming . Theaters ? Nope , it’s done for .
Agreed💯
it's okay... it's no fury road tho
Good for streaming
Good for streaming
Big mistake sidelining Charlize Theron. She MADE Furiosa. That character is hers. She’s still physically fit and she could have played this version of the character easily especially with the negligible time gap between Furiosa and Fury Road. I don’t understand why she wasn’t in Furiosa.
She was in Furiosa tho
@@Ne0Nights You 💯 wouldn’t know that from the trailers, and I’m sure it’s probably a very small cameo.
@@The_Megabito correct on both counts. It’s unused footage from Fury Road added to the end of the movie. But I’m just saying she technically still was in the movie.
I think the reason Disney is not worried about Young woman and the sea and Inside out 2. They figure that Inside out 2 appeals to kids, where Young woman and the sea would not but mainly older viewers.
"Daisney" Ridley's film _The Marsh King's Daughter_ died the weekend it opened alongside _Priscilla_ and the one I saw, _What Happens Later,_ which my aunt described as a "two-person play" and also died.
Chris Hemsworth should go the rom com route. It would really save his theatrical career. Instead, he’s doubling down on mindless action.
I think he tried a "buddy movie" in _Men in Black: International._
@@sandal_thong8631Forgot all about that. But rom coms are having a moment. He’d be perfect to capitalize on it.
“Theatrical career”. Bud theaters are going the way of the dinosaur slowly.
Rom coms don’t even get into theaters anymore though.
@@Ray03595 Anyone But You made over $200 million and it was released in theaters.
Inside Out 2 will be lucky to crack 100M. My bet is somewhere in the mid to high 80s. The latest press around Pixar definitely is killing interest in their movies, I know I’ve been frustrated with it. I think the only movie likely to open north of 100M is Deadpool & Wolverine. But it’ll probably just squeak by.
Welp your bet was extremely off as it’s projected to make double your prediction in the domestic box office alone opening weekend
No way i was just searching to see if you posted this yet and it popped up on my feed as i was typing it in. 😭
Same
It’s not the West that is not used to subtitles or dubbed content. It’s US audience only. Pretty much all European countries have a long tradition of professional dubbing.
europe is less of a mono-culture compared to north america, unsurprisingly, so yep
"If you don't like my politics, don't watch our movies." - Hollywood and their puppets- "Ok." -The entire world-
If only the problem could be identified
That's a ridiculous generalization, I can't think of a single movie this year where anyone involved said "Don't watch", only thing that springs to mind is the new Doctor Who and that's neither Hollywood nor a movie
Few things Grace needs to take into account: The rise in the cost of living and the market outside of America.
I also know people who never go to the cinema on the first few weeks. I only went to Fall Guy last week.
the Entertainment industry as a whole, video games, music, movies are all in a bad place rn, not sure what’s going on
I'm so happy for White Collar placing in the Top 10 two weeks in a row. Such a great series. I'm glad it's finally getting the audience it deserves via Netflix.
Garfield is #1?! Lol
@@BrutalVengeance24meowwrr!
I genuinely can't believe there's nothing in cinemas to draw people in ....like genuinely tv and streaming feels dry too besides Doctor Who on Friday at midnight ....there's nothing much on
At least all the top 10 movies got to $1 million. That wasn't happening in 2021 and 2022.
Good reminder!
Ticket prices across the country are more expensive.
Epic episode so far!
That’s so great that The Garfield Movie & IF prove that family movies can be hits in theaters! That’s a great sign for both Inside Out 2 & Despicable Me 4!
TWISTER CAME OUT 28 YEARS AGO GRACE!
I think Furiosa shot itself in the foot by being a prequel and replacing Charlize Theron. Replacing the actress randomly made the movie seem disconnected from the previous film. Theron IS Furiosa in most Fury Road fans.
I believe that Anime made a generation Americans used to watch subtitles… because a true fan wanted to watch the series with original sound!
IDK about "true fan" elitism anymore. Dubs have a culture around them, and some have strong actors. Good stories need to be shared with as many people as possible, and dub audio has its place. BETTER TO HAVE A DUB, THAN A HOLLYWOOD REMAKE FILM. Right? American remakes are 99 percent terrible, and 100 percent unnecessary 😑
I think every movie window should go back to a 3 month release after their theater run. I also think that they just want to get ahead of the bootleggers who are stealing their movies.
2020 changed a lot. It’s not just prices in conjunction with the pandemic. People just found better things to do. Hobbies, non-theatre family related activities, or better options on streaming. Shoot I kicked my audiobook habit into high gear. With a proper imagination and decent attention span books or audiobooks can rival a movie for entertainment and excitement. I personally have not been interested in the movies outside of “events” movies. Which is why Deadpool and wolverine will likely murder the box office the way Barbenheimer did.
Deadpool 3 is one movie so it will not come close to what Barbenheimer grossed overall. It will likely gross more than Oppenheimer domestically but much less than Barbie
Very impressed with Fallout! Hope it can stay consistent. Sad to hear about how the low Memorial Day weekend box office performances.
About JLo, I heard her tour was about 75% sold with about a month to go before she nixed it.. I’ve seen a lot worse so not sure why so many are convinced the ticket sales were the main reason
Inside Out 2 (60-80mil)
Bad Boys 4(25-32mil)
Deadpool 3 (100-130mil) Despicable Me 4(80-120mil)
Joker 2(75-80mil)
Bad Boys 4 will make that on the opening night. Predicting Bad Boys 4 to open at 25-32mil is insane , no disrespect
Told you what Bad Boys 4 was gonna do 😂. Can’t bet against excellence ✊🏽🤷🏽♂️
'Bad Boys: Ride or Die' and 'Deadpool & Wolverine' are going to save everything.
Those movies are competing in different leagues. Bad Boys 4 has a lower ceiling than deadpool, much lower. It also costs a lot less.
Greed is what going to destroy Hollywood. Between hiring mediocre writers and directors. Out of touch producers . And this sense of need to push agendas down the throats of fans. This is what's destroying Hollywood.
Does the slap still matter to people outside of the internet bubble? It happened 3 years ago and none of my family and friends care and are just excited for more Bad Boys.
A woman told me she doesn't care to see Will Smith again (until he gets his life in order?). Nobody showed up for _Emancipation._ I, however, have been saying I'd rather see _King Richard_ about Serena and Venus Williams again than _Challengers._
@@sandal_thong8631 None of those films are Bad Boys the franchise though (and how many people run to the theaters to see a film about slavery?). Did she see the other Bad Boys films and is just not going to the new one? Just curious because I wonder how real this thing is to the franchise's fanbase.
I think its possible that it matters much more to ppl who dont watch Bad Boys anyways, but it can still put off few poten. viewers. Whether it matters to few ppl, or more thats the question.
@@sandal_thong8631 , side-note: King Richard AND Challengers are excellent- dare i say incredible films. Just utter perfection. So damn good.
@@rafaelmanzo9497 Yep, Challengers was great! Loved King Richard too but Challengers a little more for the melodrama :)
Disney is done, they need good scripts, good storylines, no agendas, no dei, good stories need to be told without checking boxes.
I like Glen Powell, I agree on the overexposure currently all depends on how Hitman is received by public, but taking the month off, which is probably his play, is the strong option, and then he’s riding smooth on forward to establishing himself as a savior of CINEMA
I'm happy that IF is holding well. I saw it on Friday and it was one of the biggest surprises I've seen in quite awhile. Great movie!
You know what's crazy I have a side hustle, a crochet business, and I too had a horrible May. I think people are just overspent and find it harder to head to the movies
I’m looking forward to seeing Bad Boys 4 on Thursday ❤️
The entertainment fatigue is real.
Grace is holding on to a culture that doesn't exist anymore
Couple things causing this: 1. The movies are subpar. Dune was good and apes was decent, but outside of that nothing has really piqued the general audience interest. 2. Movie theaters tickets and concession prices are pretty outrageous, combine that with a subpar experience offered and this is the outcome.
Why go to the theater for more money for a worse experience than my home? The movie needs to be truly worthy of going out to the theater or most will just wait.
It really is that simple....unless it's just one person going, it isn't a cheap outing
short form vids like tiktok shorts etc have fried alot of people's brain
Gen z and Alpha especially. They cannot watch something without doing something else in the background.
Theaters are the opposite of this
This is why I’m ok with banning TikTok.
And they need subtitles
@@ironfox4990 banning toktok wont do anthing. same short vids are posted on shorts, fb, twitter etc
You do realise these existed before 5 years ago right, we've been hearing the same things for like 15 years.
The issue for both video games and movies is trope fatigue
I think it's too many options/releases than ever before.
People dont have time to watch/play every release so they rather wait and/or pick and choose rather than consume every release
I will be watching The Acolyte, Evil season 4 episode 3, and I’m just itching to go back to the movie theater for the first time this year for Inside Out 2 in a couple weeks.
I loved Dead Boy Detective.
Furiosa saw how good of a year Zassie was having with Dune & Godzilla and had to change that!
to be fair they only co-produced those
21:45 lol for us Parks and rec fans that watched the blooper reels.
I've been thinking about the box office problems and I have a big question. Tracking goes by how much we spend that week, right? Does that factor in AMC's A List and other theaters programs where people are not paying for movies that week? I'm seeing free movies all the time with AMC people can see three movies a week. Maybe there should be tracking on how many tickets are actually "sold" to see how films are doing and not just about how much they make. I'll see Bad Boys in a theater, for free.
units sold would just make it all look so much worse, ticket sales have gone up faster than inflation and there are all the premium screens (IMAX) that charge more
I believe (note: I am not american but I've listened to people talk abotu the service) that AMC has a deal with studios that your A-list ticket does contribute towards box office.
Disney has no idea what it’s doing 🤦🏼♂️
yes, it has, Iger is steering the ship around by cutting costs down on streaming, bundling it with Hulu and soon with Max, added ad tiers, raising its subscription prices, going the Netflix route in removing password sharing, depending on the sequels to their established brands as in Frozen 3,4 Zootopia 2, Incredibles 3, investing $60 billion into their theme parks via expansions like Pandora, Wakanda, Frozen, Avengers Campus, etc.
Yes, more sequels to sequels. Great MO over there at disney.
@@alantes exactly 🤦🏼♂️ Star Wars will get buried by House Of The Dragon and The Boys lol
Disney have inside out, deadpool, moana and lion king still to come this year those will all easily make their money back. Disney is like thanos, run from it all you want but peoples' wallets will always come running back.
@@Aussie27Legend is that what happened last year did it in 2023 ? LMFAOOOOOO
Yes I will see Bad Boys 4 Life in theaters and probably more than once