I should have put the spoiler warning at the very start of the video. But hopefully the title will be enough. Also, I meant to say "Stella & Noctis" at 5:53 not Yozora lmao. That's what happens when you gotta swap between all these names for over 20mins. And yeah, I know I've covered this theory before, but I wanted to expand upon it in a way that I think will make it very easy to understand. I could still be wrong of course, but I think I've provided enough evidence to justify my (and everyone else who believes) belief in this theory. Either way, we probably won't know until 2022 at the earliest, so I guess we'll hopefully have our answer around then. But till then, I'm ride or die for this theory! Shoutout to damo279's for his very insightful video: ruclips.net/video/M-SRybe9yZE/видео.html
I like this theory. It adds more "spice" to whole plot. Instead of just having a "randomly named" girl that will help Riku go to Quadratum and save Sora, we have a girl named Sora that will help Riku to save Sora. But there's also this guy named Yozora who wants to save Sora but he didn't find the Sora he was expecting. Yep, that's very Kingdom Heartsy so I really like this theory. Let's wait some years and see how it goes
One important thing to back up your theory aswell, would be that we think Yozora tries to save Nameless Star from the purple beacon in the Verum Rex commercial. What wouldn't it make more sense for this scene to be her being responsible for the destruction of this world? They're still opponents, who have to act out their part, one way or another. I now see this scene as in her destroying the world, while he's trying to both save his loved one & having to stop her from existing, to ensure the worlds safety. Sounds kind of like Versus, doesn't it? To me, this would also explain Yozora fighting Sora - He thinks KH Sora is VR Sora. This would also bring the Sora-Riku parallel into play. Riku & Yozora do share alot of similarities aswell, while Nameless Star & Sora would be the opposite to them. It just further supports your theory. But why is Yozora not the opposite to Sora, but rather Riku, when he's implied to be the main character? Magia & Aegis do mirror Donald & Goofy, after all? We mustn't forget, that Sora wasn't the chosen one by the keyblade. It was Riku. In the Verum Rex story however, this switch-up never happened & Yozora remains the main character. And, well, Yozora has silver hair, as does Riku. Nameless Star has brown has, just like Sora. If she were "just" a reused Stella, she'd still be blond.
Almost everything you've said is stuff I considered after making this video, so I appreciate you putting it into words. There are some things I would adjust, like the beam thing. She literally shatters reality or something, and yet everything is back to normal.. Not sure what she did exactly, but it doesn't seem she destroyed the world, and it seems whatever she was doing she was being pressured to do it by the enemy, just like Stella/Lunafreya. Especially Luna because she had to summon the Leviathan at the behest of the side opposing Noctis One thing you mentioned that I never considered though was Yozora being the Protagonist of VR, because the switch never happened for him, so he's like Riku rather than Sora, and exactly as you said, the Nameless woman resembles Sora more than anyone else, even Kairi. And every time I saw people say "Sora is a parralel to Yozora and the nameless woman is a parralel to Kairi", I always wondered okay, then who is Riku's parralel? Even if its true that Yozora is a parralel to Sora, and the Nameless woman is a parralel to Kairi, that still leaves Riku unaccounted for. I mean.. Yozora literally looks like Riku. He looks nothing like Sora. His personality is even closer to Riku's. Idk.. I'm just not seeing the Sora/Yozora parralel people keep pointing out, and honestly, would Nomura make it that obvious? This is the same guy who literally took the word 'remake' to another level. I highly doubt he'd be so straight forward
@@NextGenNovelist There’s just one tiny difference. Both of Riku’s eyes are bright blue/turquoise. Yozora’s left eye is blue while the right eye is red! And VR means “Virtual Reality!”
@@jeffkoenig4250 In this case, it just means "Verum Rex", "True King". It could be that when written in initials, "VR" seems to imply "Virtual Reality", but that'd not something that'd been hinted at. Also, there's no need to go too far with thr differences in eye-color. Heterochromia is pretty much genetic, but wether Yozora has it natyrally or not, that's another story, since both colors heavily represent both of his attack types. Regardless, it doesn't mean he comes from any "Virtual Reality". In fact, though implied to be "unreality", it's actually another part of reality. Basically, KH as a whole is comprised of countless universes that together comprise the multiverse of KH. Further beyond that is a whole new level of multiverses that are divided between each other, in an even higher degree of reality. Where would Quadratum/Verum Rex take place in reality? Not really known, but it id true that KH as a whole was defined by the dreams children had that restored the worlds, though not as it used to be, as a unified, single superworld that comprised all "universes", so it's highly likely that one of the core fundamentals is the ability for people to be able to bring anything thet dream of to life as a manifestation of creativity. Basically, the entire world of KH was brought by something that, by far, surpassed even the most advanced magic in existance. Takr the dream worlds, for instance. Eacg of the exist in their own degree, outside of what would be KH's "real" world, and yet, they arr just as real, just not to the point of existing to the same degree. In essence, KH and Verum Rex are simply seperated by an even higher barrier because their existances are almost as if thet were both entirely different existancrs altogether. To put it into perspective, one could say that the contrast between KH and VR is closer to two parallel videogames existing close to one another, just that Verum Rex hasn't had a videogame prior to it's reveal in KHIII. So, what I mean is that Verum Rex, as more than just a parallel to Kingdom Hearts, is the closest to a crossover between two franchises than anything else, within it's own existance. The reason Verum Rex is called "unreal" is because, by the point of discovery, already has all it's realms, or in this case, dimensions covered, so a completely foreign dimension would be "outside of their realm of possibility", but that doesn't mean it can't exist, it just means it cannot within the existance of KH's reality, so, in this sense, "VR" is just as "unreal" to them that cannot comprehend, as, say, Zelda, Mario, Sonic; it exist as a completely seperate part of reality as a whole within Kingdom Hearts.
I agree 100% with your theory because like you said the nameless star said she had her name taken away and when Yozora meets Sora he reacted to his name. Then asked “Why are you using Sora’s name?” So the nameless star’s name have to be Sora.
Exactly. Remember when Sora said his name Yozora reacted strongly, as if he recognized the name as someone he cares about. That could be a strong indication that the nameless star’s name is indeed Sora. After all why would Nomura have Yozora react so strongly to the word Sora if it doesn’t mean something to him?
@@mirandagoldstine8548 Yeah, that’s Nomura for us. Knows how to add something secretive and interesting at the right moment. I just can’t wait to play as either Yozora or Riku in the next Kingdom Hearts. But that’s not gonna happen until 2021 or 2.
@@sora034 Hopefully we’ll get more information in the next game. So far we are now certain that the nameless star and the nameless woman are one and the same. I wonder who she is to Yozora? A dear friend? A lover? A sibling?
@@nicholasricci3101 They weren’t explicitly named Riku though. Yes, we can all say that Riku from Final Fantasy X-2 made an appearance, but Sora was never told what her name was to avoid both confusion and the need to have dialogue addressing this.
This was my theory when I first saw the Yozora cutscenes. I think this is very likely. Yozora sees himself as someone else but Sora can see him clearly. Yozora on the other Part thinks his girl Sora also took another body and now looks like our Sora. Someone manipulated Yozora pretty badly and hes not clear whats real or whats a dream (car scene). As we saw MoM in his Secret Ending Quadratum it was pretty much the work of the MoM hinself to "challange" Yozora as he said he had to go trough somd trials to get to safe his girl Sora. These trials are gonna be Rikus trials in the next game to get to Sora.
@@vins2030 Still Luxor could have surely described Sora’s appearance to Yozora. I’m still certain that the Sora that Yozora clearly seems to know is the nameless woman. If you look at his body language he is clearly in shock that there is another person by the name of Sora, plus there’s the fact that the nameless woman looks a fair amount of what Sora would look like if he was female. Clearly seeing Sora’s appearance plus hearing that name triggered a memory in Yozora.
This was a good theory video. Another thing I'd like to point out is that Riku and Sora are unisex names in Japan so this only strengthens your point that the star could be called Sora or at least have it as part of her name. For example, she could be named Aozora (blue sky).
Yep. In fact there’s a character from the original Digimon, a female character, named Sora. So I suspect if Sora isn’t her first name it could be a nickname. After all Yozora reacted strongly to the name so he clearly knows someone who is called Sora.
Omg YES I’ve always loved your big brained take on this theory, and I’ve gone back to look at the old ones u made and honestly each time they make more an more sense, like I think you’re one of the few that actually uses their yt platform to put this theory into the light omg
Lol thanks I appreciate that. I've always believed this theory but I felt like nobody (including me) had really done the theory justice. Hopefully this video remedied that
If The nameless star's real name is "sora", then it would make sense for yozora to fight sora , as the nameless star mentioned that her "name" was taken away. Maybe Yozora fought Sora thinking he was the one who took away the nameless star's name? Also I believe "Magia" and "Aegis" might not be their name. Probably it's their class like "Mage" and "Shield". I believe they have japanese proper names to fit in the naming convention. If Aegis and Magia are their real names, then it's possible it might parallel Sora Donald and Goofy instead of the Island Trio.
Exactly! That's where I was going with my point about him having to fight her, because in my older theories about Yozora "Saving Sora", this is something I mentioned(albeit a bit messily). I believed that because her heart had been taken, Yozora was mistaking KH Sora for being the new form of his Sora, because he knows that he lost his heart and his form was changed, so he knows it's likely. The question I'm now asking myself is, who exactly is the threat in their world that is causing these problems? 🤔
Agreed. It’s why I think it’s her name or at least a nickname. Yozora reacted strongly to hearing the word Sora which means it has some significance for him.
The only thing that makes me question this is the “I went through some trials and was told to save sora” line. I have a feeling that the yozora battle takes place after Riku had been to Quadratum already.
That line was giving me some trouble with this theory too at first. I was also thinking that it's possible the Yozora fight may take place after Riku meets him, but that leads to a bunch of questions I've yet to see answered: Why would Yozora be taking this mission so personally? Think about when he says "then my path is clear", you can see the way he clenched his fist (that's just one of a few examples). He seems almost upset he has to fight. Why doesn't he recognise him and why doesn't he mention that Riku sent him? Why does he decide to fight him in order to "save" him? I mean, would Riku really have said "when you find Sora beat him up and put him in a crystal"? (Maybe as payback for KH1? Lmao). How could fate have brought them to this point if he doesn't even know Sora yet? Why would he be getting offended and say "Why are you using Sora's name?" if he is supposed to be looking for him? If it turned out it was Riku that sent him then there'd need to be some very good answers to all those questions. My theory answers all those questions, and is even backed by the original purpose of the character a lot of us agree the Star is based on
Also, before Yozora says he went through some trials, he says "I wandered into this place". He isn't in Quadratum, which is where he would have met Riku. I'm sure he wakes up in Quadratum though but that's after the fight
@@NextGenNovelist I think that Yozoora is in TWEWY world and his mission in order to be allowed to leave that world is that he has to save Sora. That could explain all of his reactions in relation to the dialogue with Sora. The other point that I have to question your theory (which is still super well exposed) is this: the nameless star clearly states that Yozoora is not "himself" and that he kinda forgot her. So this would mean that the Yozoora we met maybe is not the real thing. Maybe he is possessed and cannot remember her. If he truly is in such condition, why would he react to the name "Sora" even if it was her real name?
@@Nyla_emotes It could be because his subconscious told him that a person with the name Sora, who was special to him, needed help. Memories are a powerful key. A single word, a scent, an action, a sound, can bring about a rush of memories. So by Sora saying his name something clicked in Yozora, a memory of a person who had connections with that name. Hence why he reacted so strongly to the name Sora. As to why the nameless star was concerned about Yozora being changed, wouldn’t you be concerned if a person you were close to changed? It could be she witnessed a certain event that caused Yozora to be changed before she lost pretty much everything. So when Sora said she just needed to have some faith it probably kindled a flame of hope for her that Yozora would find a way to reverse the process that changed him and thus seek her. Here’s hoping that it follows that path.
You makes some really great points, and I never knew about the "Shibuya Sky" observatory bit- clearly Nomura chose that building on purpose. Whether it's a reference to her name, or to KH Sora (since Sora ends up where that building looks over, near Shibuya Scramble Crossing in the secret ending). I've been leaning towards thinking her name is likely Hoshi, because I just think it might be strange to have such similar names between Yozora and the Girl (Yozora and Sora, if that was her name) but I can't deny the evidence. The part in the secret episode that really trips me up is when Yozora says "Why are you using Sora's name?" implying at the very least that he didn't expect this "Sora" he was told to save to look like our Sora. I don't think he remembers the girl anymore (As nameless star mentioned that his heart had been replaced, also implying that he might not remember her), he just knows that this person was important to him and that he's supposed to save them. That's why after he defeats Sora, he gently touches Sora's knee and vows to save him (in jp he uses the same exact words as in the kingstagram post that shows beforehand, labeled with #/Chikai (Oath)). That's not something you would do with someone you thought was a complete stranger, even if you were told to save them. He now believes Sora (our Sora) is someone he knows personally and is precious to him- in other words, his memory is being messed with. Very similar to how in CoM Sora's memory was messed up to the point where he was convinced that Namine, a complete stranger to him, was a precious person to him and someone he had vowed to protect.
Great comment. I can tell you really paid attention to my points in the video and I appreciate that. I'm glad you noticed that subtle body language Yozora displays that demonstrates he is personally invested in "Sora" despite clearly not knowing this particular Sora. The observatory bit is almost always forgotten about when people disagree with this, but they use the building MoM stands on as evidence of his name/identity.. I addressed it in the video, but just to add my issue with Hoshi is that it's basically what everyone in Japan would be calling her anyway. "Na mo naki Hoshi". Nomura himself is Japanese so he doesn't say "nameless star" he says Hoshi anyway. Would he really call her that? It's like if it turned out her name was just "Star", like after all this build up that's what her name is? If that's the case, why hide her name? It's not like that's a twist or anything (we're already calling her star anyway). Her name has been hidden for two games now, which means it's being built up to like a reveal, which strongly implies her name has significance to the audience despite her seemingly being a brand new character. She says her name was "taken" from her, and then Yozora says why are you "using" Sora's name. So if you take something from someone, it means you can now use it yourself, but they no longer can (which might also explain why she doesn't use/identitfy with her own name anymore).
@@NextGenNovelist I can see Nomura using the name Hoshi in a cheeky way; he loves to hide things in plain sight (like Riku’s Dream Eaters symbol in ddd) so him naming her “Star” when we’ve been introduced to her as a literal star, plus her necklace being a star, seems very in line with something he would do. But the evidence for her name being Sora does feel stronger for reasons you mention. But one more interesting thing to note, if her name was Hoshi, is that combining her name with Yozora’s, you would get the word “Hoshizora” which actually means “starry night sky”. I’m reminded of the kingstagram post with #/oath. So, the symbolism of the name Hoshi would still be pretty good- after all, the Night Sky without stars is nothing but darkness... Either way, she has many parallels/similarities with Sora. It might also interest you that she also seems to be set up as a parallel to Riku (Nomura loves his layered parallels after all, so Yozora and NS both have connections to both Sora and Riku, not strictly one or the other). The theme of dreams and dreams coming true is becoming clearer as Riku’s new arc, it’s why Fairy Godmother appears and why Riku’s Kingstagram post in Limit Cut has a reference to Cinderella’s song “A Dream is a Wish Your Heart Makes” with “I believe in Sora” and “#/wish”. Then in khmom Fairy Godmother states that NS also has a precious dream, and Riku wants to help it come true. In addition, in the novel we get insight into Sora’s thoughts when he meets Nameless Star, and interestingly, she reminds him of someone he can’t think of. He thinks of Aqua, but still he is reminded more of someone else and is bothered that he can’t think of who. It’s Riku- this is why he tells her Riku’s words- but he doesn’t remember it was Riku that said those words, which is made clearer in the jp version (Sora losing his memory of Riku’s sacrifice and also his memory of saving Riku’s heart may well be a clue to why Yozora looks like Riku, but that’s a whole other theory). Anyway, sorry for the long reply 😅 I think these characters are fascinating
@@CampingforCool41 Hoshizora was suggested by other commenters on this video back when I released it, and I immediately took a liking to it. I think it's a great way of both answering the "Sora confusion" (cos Sora could be like a shortened version of Hoshizora) and it removes all the issues people have with there being two Soras. I've considered before that she's like a parralel to Riku or like an alternate reality version of KH Sora. I don't view Yozora as this perfect parralel to KH Sora the way most people do. And you've made some interesting observations relating to that, that I've never heard before or considered. I certainly think your line of thinking is plausible. The dreams element is certainly coming into play again just like with DDD, and like you say, NS is supposedly someone who has a powerful dream/wish, one we still don't know about yet (I'd assume it's reuniting with Yozora and getting her identity back but could be a twist). But yeah very good points, I enjoy reading comments like this so don't apologise for making them
I already thought your videos on this before had merit, but after this one I'm totally convinced!! The only thing that had me doubtful before was in MoM she didn't respond to the name Sora, but you explained that, so now I'm sold. Very good insights and I like how you address possible issues with the theory too, it shows you've considered the alternatives. I like how the video was structured too!! 😊😁 Very much worth the watch!
Yeah, her not reacting to the name threw me off too, but I think that was partially classic Nomura misdirection, but then there's a possible reason for her not going by her own name too. Appreciate the kind words!
@@NextGenNovelist Nomura certainly loves to mess with us so it's no surprise he's creating confusion over the name Sora! He knows we'd overlook the Star and immediately think its KH Sora cos that's the only one we know!! And you're welcome 😊
Tetsuya Nomura named Noctis (night sky) to accompany the name Sora (sky) because Sora KH and Noctis V13 were "like a son" to him. The word "sky" was important for some reason to Nomura. There was an interview about it, it's even in wiki under Noctis' name. The name Stella "Nox" Fleuret in Versus, especially the word "Nox" is another form of Noctis. Nomura name her to share something similar with Noctis. Yozora and Nameless Star could be in the same idea (Yozora and Sora). At 10:49, Stella golden symbol is from God Pulse, while Noctis blue symbol is from Goddess Etro. Pulse (ally to God Bhunivelze) is not an ally to Etro. If Verum Rex shared the idea of Versus, then they're indeed opposite. Toy Box Rex told us about Bahamut (a summon of Final Fantasy, a being close to Etro). Rex also needs to get pass Bahamut (using the character Yozora). Nomura even added that car scene to tell us which Final Fantasy he meant with Yozora, that is Versus. I think your theory is correct, even if you get big W or big L doesn't matter lol.
I was in the process of making this video when I saw your comment on my other video, so I thought you might appreciate the Versus portion of this video. I completely forgot about Rex mentioning Bahamut, but yeah even more evidence. You're much more familiar with the XIII/Fabula Nova Crystallis lore than I am. Hopefully I'm not wrong and the Nameless Star doesn't just become another Lunafreya, cos she does kinda seem closer to that than Stella in terms of personality lol
Very interesting comment. Actually you made me realize that I did not put too much attention to what the dinosaur Rex was saying. Might be important. Just for being 100% correct, Stella Nox translates to "Star of the Night" (not into night sky) and Fleuret is a type of sword. Anyway I totally agree with you in hoping she will be more like the "Stella" from Versus rather than like Luna from XV (and same for Yozoora I would add)
So Sora and Yasora in the Fictional World are their versions of Riku and Sora. One of Light the other of Darkness forced to fight each other only to have the light be the place of the enemy.
Maybe the nameless Star is dead. When she died, maybe she was reincarnated as our Sora. Or maybe after she died, Xehanort or the master of masters took a piece of her heart and put it in sora? Idk a bunch of speculation The same exact thing that happened to yozora probably ALSO happened to her “Been changed beyond recognition, heart replaced with another’s”
She did say that someone took her name and everything about her, which means someone in their world has stolen her identity. I believe it's possible that Yozora believes KH Sora is that person, and that's why he thinks he has to fight him in order to restore her to her original self. But that would mean her name is indeed Sora
@@NextGenNovelist Big theory: Sora may have her name or a peice of her heart. Our Sora definitely has nothing to do with it tho. I think the Master of Masters is behind that. He likely needed both our sora and yozora to meet for something big. Or at least he needs sora to be in quadratum. But since they are both in two completely different realities, it wouldn’t be easy for them to meet, unless fates were forcibly tied together. So the master probably took a peice of her heart that contains her name and put it inside KH sora’s so that sora would inevitably end up in quadratum when he dies or disappears... I can’t wait to see what else happens from here. I wonder what the master is planning for sora especially. And another big question, what is KH sora’s real name if all of this is correct? Could his real name possibly be “Yozora”?
Alright I watched this video just out of curiosity not really believing you'd convince me but I'm pretty darn well convinced. Not enough to say this is definitely the answer but it has a very high probability of being totally right. Thanks for the quality content!
The Sora we know as "Sora" is NOT the REAL Sora. He will transform into a the antagonist who is possed by Xehanort in KH IV. Yazora will have to save Stella who is actually Sora with her full powers Obtained. Yazora ask's Sora why he uses that name "Sora", because the Sora we know as Sora is NOT the REAL Sora. He is Quadratums' version of their dimension comparing to Unreality or Fiction. So Sora real name is actually Stella's Physical form, but her real name is Sora. Thats why both Yazora and Sora claim "is any of this for real or not" and "none of this makes sense to me". Its because they don't remember the appearances of the REAL Yazora, and REAL Sora.
Square stole everything about Stella, obliterated her and replaced her with Luna. Square took Noctis and twisted him into another person. It's pretty meta and makes complete sense to me
I like your dedication to this theory, but here’s one major issue that I see should her name be Sora. In the secret episode, Yozora specifically says “I wanders into this place and did some trials, THEN, I was told to save Sora”. If Sora was the name of the girl and we assume that Yozora was trying to save her, why would it be brushed off by him as something that someone else seemingly told him he needed to do? A good amount of your theory is based on that it’s a core of Yozora’s mission to save her and not a passing thought. Now maybe it is a passing thought and Yozora grew to feel the need to save her after he was told to, but that would be kinda counter intuitive of the Verum Rex trailer where it seemed like he was really distraught by it. I personally feel like Yozora’s reaction to finding out Sora’s name is really more of him finding out that this is the Sora he’s looking for and be told to find when he entered some trials. “You’re Sora” seems to be intended to be read as him questioning if this is the person he was told to save and not as if he’s questioning why this random person has the name of the person I’m looking for or if this maybe is the person I’ve been looking for but stripped of their original identity. But of course, there’s the “why are you using Sora’s name”, how can such evidence that suggests more of a same name not be the answer to which I reply, it’s the trails. Yozora mentioned how his form isn’t his real form yet he still retains his name to which many link it to the reapers game to which bodies are taken and swapped. Who’s to say that the same can’t happen where the name changes but the body stays the same. We literally went through an entire saga dedicated to understanding how this body of Terra is actually Xehanort, this heart of Xehanort is called Ansem, and these memories of Sora is called Xion. He’s likely disillusioned, he doesn’t know if what he sees is real. Is this person who says he’s Sora actually Sora or is it another trick to mess with me. He accidentally wandered and had to save Sora, he wants to go back and to have to keep questioning where is this Sora who’ll help me escape and probably came across many who toyed with him until he found the right one. But that’s just my thoughts. Just a different interpretation to reading into the situation. Sure it doesn’t give an answer to the name but if does suggest why it may not with emphasis on the MAY. We have no clue what goes through Nomura’s head, so any line of reasoning could be taken.
Thanks for taking the time to write out this comment. Honestly, this is a great counter and it features some things I've had to wonder myself. That line of "then I was told to save Sora," had bugged me because of how nonchalantly he said it. I also wondered why would he need to be told to save her, but the Nameless Star said herself she can't be sure he's coming for her because his heart was replaced with another's, meaning it's possible he won't fully remember anything, until as you said, it was mentioned to him and part of him was triggered by the name, still remembering. He reacts so strongly to the name, and he is clearly taking the mission very personally. Look at the bad ending when he defeats Sora, the way he places his hand on the crystal, closes his eyes and says "I will save you", I just can't see him speaking that way about a stranger. To your point about the commercial, its a good one. If he's so determined to save Sora in that scene, how did he forget by the time he meets KH Sora? This may also be because his heart was replaced with another's. Remember, between the time of that commercial and when Sora meets the Nameless Star, she had already lost her form. Which means a lot has happened since that commercial. We don't even know how long ago that commercial was for Yozora and the Nameless Star. But I'd wager something most likely happened to Yozora between that commercial and when Sora meets him, whatever it was that caused him to be changed beyond recognition, and that's why he's confused. And remember, we know for a fact the Nameless Star Is from the same world as Yozora, and we also know that she's waiting for him specifically to rescue her (she whispered his name into Sora's ear). So we know that she needs saving, we know that Yozora needs to save someone called Sora, and we still don't know what the Nameless Star's name is yet but we know she needs to be saved by Yozora
I don't see why, but some people believe that the MoM set up all of this. So if that's true, I suppose the only way I see this being possible is if MoM is originally from the other side, and basically somehow created Daybreak Town, and the book of prophecies to specifically create an entire universe (the KH universe) and Sora was part of his creation, and maybe he was based on the Sora from the other side, but I'm not sure if that means he took her name, or if it would just explain why they have the same name. But personally I think it's unlikely at this point, but not impossible
You are slightly off with the Days trio. In German Roxas means "Twilight Sky", Lea means "Land", and Xion means "Tide". Making the once again fit the theme of air, earth, water. Sora, Riku, Kairi - Ventus, Terra, Aqua - Roxas, Lea, Xion.
Ah okay, I could see their names fit a convention but I didn't realise they were from an actual language. I should have because I already knew Axel and Xion are real names... Anyway, thanks for the correction!
@@NextGenNovelist So... Aqua- water Terra- earth/dirt/land Ventus- wind Kairi- sea Riku- land Sora- bird Xion- tide Lea- land/stone Roxas- red light of the day/ has a heart sharing a bird and wind
This has to be the truth of it! I believed the nameless star was Streletzia until Melody of Memory. Then I was like maybe its that girl Yozora was trying to save but then I wondered why her name was missing. In all honesty, with just the "facts of the matter" section of the video you could EASILY justify this theory. But you gave more evidence than just that. This makes a lot of sense so even if it turns out you're wrong, you bloody well shouldn't be! Consider me a new subscriber. I look forward to your future videos.
I think this name question is a lot simpler than people think. I believe you are right the nameless star is probably going to have the name Sora. Point 1 is that she states that her name and everything was stolen. Point 2 Yazora needs to fight KH Sora to save his Sora. The logical outcome of the two points is that if KH Sora states he's Sora in a universe where name theft is a thing that KH Sora stole VR Sora's name. I don't believe we should use verses 13 to gain much insight into the next Kingdom Hearts game since the context for the games are completely different. If anything the Nameless Star would have a name meaningful for Kingdom Hearts. Sora is the best fit and is the type of confusing thing the director is kind of known for.
Stella is the Star in the Night Sky(Noctis) [or rather, the Light in his Dark Kingdom]... I feel like if we follow THIS type of train of thought(where nearly EVERYTHING is a message with more than one meaning), we'll get to the bottom of the Nameless Star's name... So, (Nameless Star)_____ is the _____ in the Night Sky (Yozora) Potential: Luna? is the Moon? in the Night Sky ... I feel this could fit, as it fits the Light in Darkness motif, and the name follows the Latin motif
This makes a lot of sense. I could see this being the case and I like the metaphors, particularly to do with her being the reflection of the light, which might imply some sort of connection with the Master as well as Yozora. So that's a very good suggestion. Do you have any thoughts on the "Sora confusion" that's going on with Yozora (him wondering why he's using Sora's name/having an emotional connection to the name Sora) and how that might fit into this if her name is something like Luna?
I kinda think that the master of masters is using yozora to accomplish his goals, and if the nameless star’s real name is sora, he’d use that to his advantage. If yozora had to go through some trials, you can infer that someone had to give him those trials to begin with, so it’s possible that the master of masters gave him trials and then told him to save sora, which could mean a multitude of things if the nameless star is ALSO named sora and would make it difficult for yozora to know which sora the M.O.M is talking about. Also how did yozora get the the final world (night time) in the first place? Unless he was shown how to get there by someone👀 most likely the m.o.m yet again.
It makes sense from your points especially since one of your points was the fact that they represent light and dark or yin and yang and since sora means sky and yozora means night sky then yeah it’s definitely possible that her name is sora also look at how he reacted when he said “Your Sora”
Exactly. He has a very strong reaction to that name when he hears it which means he knows someone who goes by that name. And I suspect that it is, at least, the nameless woman’s nickname.
Very nice theory! Your analysis is great no doubt about it. I personally hope her name to be Stella or the japanese version of Stella just because it is already so complicated as it is right now... Somebodies, nobodies, people looking the same but being different people, data versions of people, new timeline versions of people and so on... If we start having same names it will just be very overwhelming. I have anyway an alternative that I have not seen anyone talking about: the nameless star will be named.... SHIBUYA :D (joking of course)
How abt this for a theory. Just as MOM had luxu as his apprentice, what if AVA also had an apprentice (yozora) and AVA read the book of prophecies. She wanted Sora to live on and not allow darkness to win as predicted in the book. So she gave yozora and luxord a task. Luxord had to give sora the card and yozora had the task to save sora so that sora can battle MOM when time comes as MOM had not planned for sora to live on. Yozora reacting to sora name is due to his whole mission from AVA is that this guy can change history
There’s one hole in your theory. The Nameless star doesn’t introduce herself nor claim the name Sora for herself because when we first meet her she says “they took away my name” meaning she can’t remember who she is.
I don’t think that’s a hole in his theory. I think it was Nomura’s way of having these two characters meet without her immediately going “Oh! My name’s Sora too! Tee hee!” I mean, the guy does label this as a theory of his, so he’s not denying the ambiguity still surrounding the question. He knows there isn’t a conclusive answer so there’s no real way to say that a non-answer to a question about her name creates a hole in his theory. It just neither confirms nor denies the theory’s validity…
Lol I'm not sure if you realize, but not only did he address this like 2mins into the vid but that entire point actually supports his theory if anything. I came to this vid cos I'd heard someone who disagreed with it say that she doesn't reply saying her name is sora so it doesn't make sense, which I agreed with, but this guy actually addressed that in this video and made a pretty logical case for it. If her memory is gone or something similar then that explains why she doesn't say her own name is Sora even though she heard the name
I imagine it was just a fun thing that was thrown in to create mystery, but I'll look at it a bit more and if I see more in it then I'll certainly make a video about it
Kingdom Hearts 4 Dream Drop Distance 2.8 Final Mix Union Cover 3D coming to PS5 and PS5 pro. Transgender Sora confirmed !! Plot twist Nomura just want to connect FF character to KH world parallel world confirmed Versus 13 is organisation 13 Zexion/Noctis/Yozora/M.O.M= same shit Luxord/Ignis/Magia= same shit Luxu/Xigbar/Gladiolus=same shit Aegis/Prompto/Demyx=same shit
Actually a person on tumblr actually pointed out that the nameless woman (who is 99.95% the nameless star) has similar features to our Sora, particularly in the brows. So I wonder why the nameless woman was made to have similar features to Sora? It might be something as simple as Nomura liked the aesthetics for that character but this is Nomura, he has something in mind. I can’t see her being a doppelgänger (a person who looks a lot like another person without necessarily being related) but perhaps she’s Sora’s parallel self. If so then it would make it especially poignant if the nameless woman was indeed named Sora because she was what Sora would be if he had been a female. Of course I’m probably overthinking this.
I was thinking ... What if yozora and the Nameless Star are alternate version of riku and sora theirself? The girl we see in verum Rex fake trailer may seems a ripoff Kairi, but if you look closely, she has brown hair, and her face is very much similar to sora's face as we see it in cinematic cutscenes (like the secret ending for example ). And talking about the secret ending, we see riku and sora wake up in different places (the different colors make us understand that), but yozora is in the riku side, and he's looking him. Then, in the cutscene before sora and yozora fight, there's a clear shot on yozora fist as he talk about saving sora. That is a riku tipical gesture, the framing and the way he clenches and then extends his fist, and he usually always does when it comes to sora. And then riku and yozora are practically identical, which is pointed out twice, during the toy box level, and in the kingstagram post, where sora himself says that "yozora looks so much like riku" (he event put the hashtag riku 🤣) . I think it would be strange if it was just a sentence thrown at random
Yep I agree with everything you've said, and I've seen others say something similar But also something that I think is very important that I personally haven't emphasised enough, is that Yozora has an emotional connection to the name Sora. The fist clench is one thing that shows it, but also as soon as he hears the name Sora his entire mood changes, then when he asks "why are you using Sora's name?" he sounds almost offended by it, again another strong emotion, and then in the bad ending when he turns Sora into a crystal he gently places his hand on it, closes his eyes and then has this determined look and genuinely says "I will save you". The thing that no theory that claims her name isn't Sora ever answers, is why he reacts like this if he blatantly doesn't know KH Sora but he cares strongly about the name. Also why would Nomura write it so that Yozora is confused about the name Sora at all if there isn't someone else with the name? Even if somehow its not the Nameless Star, thinking there's absolutely nobody else with the name "Sora" doesn't add up if you're paying close attention to the scene
@NextGenNovelist I also believe that the girl's name is Sora, and I added that in my opinion she is not only called sora, she is an alternative version of him. And it goes without saying that yozora is that of riku in my opinion, mostly because of the bond between him and the girl, riku spends half the saga trying to save his friend, they have many things in common
@@scarlettross3862 Great minds think alike. I too believe she is a parallel version of him from an alternate universe. In fact the similar facial features have been noticed by a Tumblr user who has blogged about the similar facial features. I have to warn you the post is biased towards the SoRiku fan pairing so if you’re not a fan of that pairing you don’t have to read it. It’s very interesting however. (Sorry I’m posting so late. I just discovered this post and I am thrilled someone else on RUclips picked up on the similar facial features between the nameless woman/nameless star and Sora. You have no idea how happy this makes me.) marcirose.tumblr.com/post/618825488452993024/say-it-louder-for-the-people-in-the-back-but (post about the similar facial features between the nameless woman and Sora)
@@mirandagoldstine8548 don't worry, I'm totally soriku 🤣 it's not a ship, it's a reality hidden by etheronormativity. However, i saw that image, and it's even more evident. People who says that yozora and star are alternative version of sora (because yozora means night sky) and kairi are blind. She isn't even red haired, it's a shallow resemblace, but if you look closely they don't look alike at all, kairi had even changed haircut so... and they say 2 time that yozora is identical to riku, and in the secret ending yozora looks riku, so... maybe, and I say maybe, nomura put these two characters together cause he knows that he can't do the same with sora and riku, but the last is just speculation 😜
its obviously NOT sora. you even say that she doesnt respond to that name. it might not necessarily be stella(though it 99% likely is) but its 100% not sora.
Even if I would personally prefer her to be named Stella your comment made no sense at all. He explained very well WHY she did not respond to the name "Sora" EVEN IF that could be her real name. I mean, even if you are not in agreement with someone's theory you cannot say that they are wrong 100%. I personally would prefer the "Stella" (or japanese version) name, but this does not mean that I cannot listen and appreciate others theories and the good thinking they apply to their toughts!
I'm on the fence thanks to your theory but something is holding me back. What's holding me back is I believe Yozora is supposed to contrast and be the mirror for KH Sora. Heck if you look at the meaning of the companions names, Magia and Aegis, it's Magic (Donald) and Shield (Goofy). Removing their names, while drawing attention to it, seems justified because it supports how obvious that trinity element is. Further, if Yozora is supposed to have his own trinity, then his love interest should be something water related or in a loose way, be like water. The name Hoshi seems a bit plain and it's right on the nose of course, meaning Star. Hoshino meaning Star Field, Hoshina has various meanings but typically Star (Tree) or Star (Green), Star (Beautiful) or Star South. There are other variations that can give it a water type meaning.
I responded to your latest comment already, but I'll just say here again that I also think Sora looks similar to the Nameless woman, and Yozora looks similar to Riku. And I guess the parralels between Yozora and Sora are possible, but if that's all true, then that means this world probably has a parralel of everything/everyone (at least important) from KH. So is there a parralel to Xehanort that Yozora has to face? Who is the Riku parralel? I guess you could say the Nameless woman is the Kairi parralel, but that still leaves Riku currently unaccounted for. And the people who think the Nameless woman is Kairi's mirror are basing it on their looks, but then they say Sora and Yozora mirror when Yozora looks almost identical to Riku rather than Sora. Still, I'm not really opposed to the idea the world's mirror, I think it could be very cool, and it doesn't entirely conflict with my theory, so both of them could be true, one possibility then is that Sora's parralel might be the Nameless woman rather than Yozora like Nomura is leading us to believe, or she's a parralel to another character, but her name is still Sora for whatever reason
Well in the first kh game, Riku was originally supposed to get the keyblade and be the protagonist. Had he gotten the keyblade, donald and goofy would have been teaming up with him, as that's the mission the king gave them. So in a world of fiction, aka a world of 'what if', what would happen if their worlds equivalent of riku, got the keyblade and met donald and goofy instead, instead of embracing darkness and losing the chance. Now think what would have happened to sora in such a senario. No keyblade, defenceless, and without his two greatest supports in unknown worlds filled with heartless. He likely would have lost his heart to the darkness, much like the othersides version of sora isn't able to defend herself, only stand there as events take place, and eventually lose her heart.
I honestly don't think her name is Sora, 'cause in the Melody of Melodies' ending, she seems to recognize that "Sora" is referring to the boy she met and not herself, as when Kairi asked if she knew him, instead of pausing to think or saying something along the lines of "Oh, you meant him.", she immediately replied with "Yes. He was here." without a single pause, implying that he was the first person she thought of when she heard the name "Sora" and not herself, and I don't think she would have known that Sora was from the same side as Riku and Kairi.
Remember, Nameless Star has got everything "stolen" from her, including her name. Nameless Star probably doesn't know her name or is not allowed to use her name for some reason unknown (because it was "stolen" by somebody). If she did say her name, our KH Sora will not say "that girl, she told me about you" when he met Yozora. Plus, our KH Sora didn't introduce himself to Nameless Star, but Nameless Star knew Sora's name. Watch the cutscenes of Nameless Star and Sora, then also watch Nameless Star talking to Fairy God Mother, Riku and Kairi. Meaning, Nameless Star knew "Sora".
@@horrorpill Except A, she still had her memories, and B, what Nameless Star told Riku and Kairi was there and that he encouraged her not to give up, *which is what the very same Sora that Riku and Kairi were looking for did!* Also, I just rewatched the extra cutscenes of The Final World in KH3, and while yes, Sora never directly told her his name, *Namine* mentioned his name while in star form, so that might be how she got his name. As for the reason why she didn't say her own name, I don't think it was because she wasn't allowed to or didn't remember. I think it's simply because someone else was using it, and she probably figured that if anyone told Yozora that "[Name] is waiting for you in the Final World", he probably wouldn't believe them. At least, that's my take on it. Could be wrong, but point is, Nameless Star knew they were talking about Kingdom Hearts Protag Sora specifically, not any other Sora.
I honestly think that Yozora was asked to save sora by the master of masters not that it's the nameless girls name. I believe the nameless girl to be Strelitzia.
Nameless Star whispered the name "Yozora" to our KH Sora, and our Sora had a "surprised" reaction to the name. This is proven even more in the cutscene between Yozora and our KH Sora before the DLC battle. If Nameless Star is Sterelitzia, she should say Lauriam instead. She has no connection to Yozora. Since our KH Sora doesn't know Lauriam, he shouldn't have a surprised reaction to the whisper. Our KH Sora never introduces himself to Nameless Star. But Nameless Star knew he is "Sora". Nameless Star got her name stolen by "somebody", so she either doesn't remember her name or cannot use her name anymore.
You have a lot of really good points and if if it wasn't the name "Sora" I might even agree with you. However having your main character share a name with another important character in your story is such a stupid thing to do that I just can't believe that they would really do it. The only way to really do something like that is to have one of the characters in this case the Nameless star have a nickname that everyone in lore as well as in fandom call them. But can the name Sora really be nicknamed? Besides the opposite of night sky isn't just sky. The Sky is always the sky no matter the time of day and Sora has been compared to both the strength of daylight and the worlds that shine at night. No if anything the opposite of Night Sky should be something like Dawn or Noon Sky you know translated into Japanese. Even "The Moonlit Ground" world make more sense as an opposite. Now all that isn't to say that I don't agree that Yozora thinks that the Nameless Star is the Sora that he is meant to save. However what we have to remember is that Yozora isn't all himself. His heart has been attacked by another and Nameless Star even claims that he doesn't really remember her. So his heart has been replaced with another, he has memory problems, and what we see isn't what he really looks like. Sounds like we have something close to a Terranort or Xemnas on our hands. Both characters where untrustworthy with names of important people from their lives before. Why should Yozora be any different. You know... although Sora can't be nicknamed it might be a nickname. Since Yozora most likely has memory problems and they most likely where close in some way calling a loved one "My Sky" is something that people do. After all Kairi almost does it in her letter at the end of KH2. In that way Nameless Star will have her own name and not be confusing as well as have a reason for Yozora to call her that.
I kind of agree and disagree. Normally having two important characters having the same name would be stupid, because it is a stupid thing to do. The part I disagree with you on is the fact that "it's so stupid i can't believe they'd really do it." If this written by any other guy, you'd be right. This is Nomura we are talking about. It's so stupid and that is why it's probably true.
@@chloemarlowe3817 I have thought about it more and I really think that Nameless Star is really a mirror for Kairi. So her name is likely very close but not exact to Kairi's. Kind of like Yozora and Sora. There is likely a third character with a name close but not exact to Riku and given how Yxora looks at this point it might even be the person that took over Yozora and changed how he looks. This would mean that Riku's mirror might be a villain at lest at first but he could also be a victim that Yozora agreed to help that went wrong somehow. As for Yozora knowing Sora's name there are honestly so many ways he could and reasons to be upset about it that doesn't seem likely it has anything to do with a girl that he might not remember at all. You remember the secret movie "another side, another story" it starts with a girl on a beach that most people say is Kairi. Well her coloring and even the length of her hair makes her a much closer match to Nameless Star. Which means people have most likely been confusing Kairi and Nameless Star for years. Also at about the same time we get a voice for nameless Star we also star getting the back story for Kairi. I wouldn't be surprised if we also got clearer back stories for Sora and Riku as well. So that that the back stories for the Destiny trio can be compared and contrasted with what seems to be a broken trio on the "other side" or Reality 2 as I have been calling it.
It could be a nickname. Someone here suggested her name being Hoshizora (Starry sky) and it would fit with her star motif as well as make it sadder. Because when we learn that the person she is waiting for (Yozora) would call her Sora because it was easier to say that’ll hit hard as it would be a sign that even though Yozora has been through a lot he still remembers an important person he would call Sora. After all Yozora reacted strongly to the name Sora which does hint he has a history with a person who was called Sora.
@@mirandagoldstine8548 I don't mind Sora being a nickname. So long as Yozora is the only one that calls her by it. However the more I think about it the more I am hoping that Nameless Star is more a mirror for Kairi then Sora. And Yozora is a mirror for Sora who for some reason is holding the mirror of Riku's heart but it is causing trouble to the point that it is changing how Yozora looks and other things. I will admit that this is a hope not a true theory because we know next to nothing about any of these characters or Reality 2 but it is a very strong hope.
I think her having the same name as the main protagonist would be a very shit idea honestly. We already have Ansem Seeker Of darkness and Ansem the wise, and it worked for them but we’re talking about the main character right? So imagine us calling them Sora the main character and Sora from Quadratum. Sounds stupid. I think her name may be Japanese for Star? Suta I think? Cuz Stella means Star in Italian, therefore Suta would make sense and Noctis means Night Sky in Italian, therefore Yozora makes sense. Pretty solid theory though, it has credibility, good job.
To me, her name being Stella/Hoshi/Suta would be "a very shit idea". It's weak writing. How are you gonna hide a character's name for basically two games (implying it's a significant reveal) and then it turns out her name is just another way of describing what she literally is? "The Nameless Star's name is...... Star (in japanese/latin/Italian)!" Lmao. That's trash. Even if I'm wrong, Sora is the only name that fits that would make hiding her name for this long even justified. But thanks for the comment! We might both turn out to be wrong
NextGenNovelist Hahaha, yeah we might both be wrong. Maybe nomura just wanted to hide the name, but as I said before, your theory and evidence does make sense. I also thought her name would most likely be sora, and while playing MoM I was shouting at the screen “Say your name is sora!” Like a crazy person, I was that sure. But personally I think it won’t work too great in terms of naming another character the same name as the main character and being able to differentiate them just by name may be hard. If we could come to an agreement, I hope they call her Sora Hoshi or sora with any last name or title aka (Ansem the wise), cuz then that would differentiate her from the normal Sora who doesn’t have a last name/ title. So Sora Hoshi would be a great idea. Sky star, pretty epic.
@@sharpshooterxigbar5713 Damn that'd actually be a really good idea and very plausible. Also kinda gives everyone what they want. I actually hope this ends up being the case
NextGenNovelist It’s great that we came to a conclusion where we’re both satisfied with the result, meanwhile combining our ideas and theories while remaining civil. I love this part of the internet, imma subscribe to you :)
Sure, we probably aren't getting Versus XIII, but we are getting something that is blatantly based on it. To ignore the Stella comparisons I've made in this video means we have to ignore everything else that's similar to Versus then. And that doesn't seem sensible because there's way too many deliberate similarities
@@NextGenNovelist I understand but your whole theory is based off a game that never game out , we don’t know what that world is or what’s in it. And to think it’s going to be similar to a game we never played just makes no sense to me. We have no idea how FFX13 Versus was going to play out and to base a theory on it seems misleading and wrong
@@chrisc7528 I get why you feel that way, which is why I mentioned a few times how Verum Rex is not Versus, but the connections are undeniable. Maybe I spent too much time on it for your liking, but to be fair, that's only evidence 1. Evidence 2 barely relies on it, evidence 3 is about Nomura's naming conventions specifically in KH, and if you watch evidence 4 (16:20) and onwards, none of that relies on Versus at all, but instead just the hard facts. I probably should have put those at the start of the video lol
I should have put the spoiler warning at the very start of the video. But hopefully the title will be enough. Also, I meant to say "Stella & Noctis" at 5:53 not Yozora lmao. That's what happens when you gotta swap between all these names for over 20mins.
And yeah, I know I've covered this theory before, but I wanted to expand upon it in a way that I think will make it very easy to understand. I could still be wrong of course, but I think I've provided enough evidence to justify my (and everyone else who believes) belief in this theory. Either way, we probably won't know until 2022 at the earliest, so I guess we'll hopefully have our answer around then. But till then, I'm ride or die for this theory!
Shoutout to damo279's for his very insightful video:
ruclips.net/video/M-SRybe9yZE/видео.html
Wait! The name, “Stella” means “Star” in Spanish/Latin Spanish!
I like this theory. It adds more "spice" to whole plot. Instead of just having a "randomly named" girl that will help Riku go to Quadratum and save Sora, we have a girl named Sora that will help Riku to save Sora. But there's also this guy named Yozora who wants to save Sora but he didn't find the Sora he was expecting. Yep, that's very Kingdom Heartsy so I really like this theory.
Let's wait some years and see how it goes
One important thing to back up your theory aswell, would be that we think Yozora tries to save Nameless Star from the purple beacon in the Verum Rex commercial. What wouldn't it make more sense for this scene to be her being responsible for the destruction of this world? They're still opponents, who have to act out their part, one way or another. I now see this scene as in her destroying the world, while he's trying to both save his loved one & having to stop her from existing, to ensure the worlds safety. Sounds kind of like Versus, doesn't it?
To me, this would also explain Yozora fighting Sora - He thinks KH Sora is VR Sora.
This would also bring the Sora-Riku parallel into play. Riku & Yozora do share alot of similarities aswell, while Nameless Star & Sora would be the opposite to them. It just further supports your theory.
But why is Yozora not the opposite to Sora, but rather Riku, when he's implied to be the main character? Magia & Aegis do mirror Donald & Goofy, after all?
We mustn't forget, that Sora wasn't the chosen one by the keyblade. It was Riku. In the Verum Rex story however, this switch-up never happened & Yozora remains the main character.
And, well, Yozora has silver hair, as does Riku. Nameless Star has brown has, just like Sora. If she were "just" a reused Stella, she'd still be blond.
Almost everything you've said is stuff I considered after making this video, so I appreciate you putting it into words. There are some things I would adjust, like the beam thing. She literally shatters reality or something, and yet everything is back to normal.. Not sure what she did exactly, but it doesn't seem she destroyed the world, and it seems whatever she was doing she was being pressured to do it by the enemy, just like Stella/Lunafreya. Especially Luna because she had to summon the Leviathan at the behest of the side opposing Noctis
One thing you mentioned that I never considered though was Yozora being the Protagonist of VR, because the switch never happened for him, so he's like Riku rather than Sora, and exactly as you said, the Nameless woman resembles Sora more than anyone else, even Kairi. And every time I saw people say "Sora is a parralel to Yozora and the nameless woman is a parralel to Kairi", I always wondered okay, then who is Riku's parralel? Even if its true that Yozora is a parralel to Sora, and the Nameless woman is a parralel to Kairi, that still leaves Riku unaccounted for.
I mean.. Yozora literally looks like Riku. He looks nothing like Sora. His personality is even closer to Riku's. Idk.. I'm just not seeing the Sora/Yozora parralel people keep pointing out, and honestly, would Nomura make it that obvious? This is the same guy who literally took the word 'remake' to another level. I highly doubt he'd be so straight forward
@@NextGenNovelist There’s just one tiny difference. Both of Riku’s eyes are bright blue/turquoise. Yozora’s left eye is blue while the right eye is red! And VR means “Virtual Reality!”
@@jeffkoenig4250 In this case, it just means "Verum Rex", "True King". It could be that when written in initials, "VR" seems to imply "Virtual Reality", but that'd not something that'd been hinted at.
Also, there's no need to go too far with thr differences in eye-color. Heterochromia is pretty much genetic, but wether Yozora has it natyrally or not, that's another story, since both colors heavily represent both of his attack types. Regardless, it doesn't mean he comes from any "Virtual Reality". In fact, though implied to be "unreality", it's actually another part of reality.
Basically, KH as a whole is comprised of countless universes that together comprise the multiverse of KH. Further beyond that is a whole new level of multiverses that are divided between each other, in an even higher degree of reality. Where would Quadratum/Verum Rex take place in reality? Not really known, but it id true that KH as a whole was defined by the dreams children had that restored the worlds, though not as it used to be, as a unified, single superworld that comprised all "universes", so it's highly likely that one of the core fundamentals is the ability for people to be able to bring anything thet dream of to life as a manifestation of creativity. Basically, the entire world of KH was brought by something that, by far, surpassed even the most advanced magic in existance.
Takr the dream worlds, for instance. Eacg of the exist in their own degree, outside of what would be KH's "real" world, and yet, they arr just as real, just not to the point of existing to the same degree.
In essence, KH and Verum Rex are simply seperated by an even higher barrier because their existances are almost as if thet were both entirely different existancrs altogether.
To put it into perspective, one could say that the contrast between KH and VR is closer to two parallel videogames existing close to one another, just that Verum Rex hasn't had a videogame prior to it's reveal in KHIII.
So, what I mean is that Verum Rex, as more than just a parallel to Kingdom Hearts, is the closest to a crossover between two franchises than anything else, within it's own existance.
The reason Verum Rex is called "unreal" is because, by the point of discovery, already has all it's realms, or in this case, dimensions covered, so a completely foreign dimension would be "outside of their realm of possibility", but that doesn't mean it can't exist, it just means it cannot within the existance of KH's reality, so, in this sense, "VR" is just as "unreal" to them that cannot comprehend, as, say, Zelda, Mario, Sonic; it exist as a completely seperate part of reality as a whole within Kingdom Hearts.
if nomura can use verum rex to realize the noctis/stella story from versu 13,id be immensly happy
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I agree 100% with your theory because like you said the nameless star said she had her name taken away and when Yozora meets Sora he reacted to his name. Then asked “Why are you using Sora’s name?” So the nameless star’s name have to be Sora.
Exactly. Remember when Sora said his name Yozora reacted strongly, as if he recognized the name as someone he cares about. That could be a strong indication that the nameless star’s name is indeed Sora. After all why would Nomura have Yozora react so strongly to the word Sora if it doesn’t mean something to him?
@@mirandagoldstine8548 Yeah, that’s Nomura for us. Knows how to add something secretive and interesting at the right moment. I just can’t wait to play as either Yozora or Riku in the next Kingdom Hearts. But that’s not gonna happen until 2021 or 2.
@@sora034 Hopefully we’ll get more information in the next game. So far we are now certain that the nameless star and the nameless woman are one and the same. I wonder who she is to Yozora? A dear friend? A lover? A sibling?
@@mirandagoldstine8548 the fact that she doesn’t have a name or is referred to as nameless just goes to show that really may be the case
Kingdom Hearts in 2002: We can't put Rikku from FFX in the game, we already have a character called Riku!
Kingdom Hearts in 2020:
Lol, hey I could be wrong though
Kh2 ffx Riku was there lol
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They weren’t explicitly named Riku though. Yes, we can all say that Riku from Final Fantasy X-2 made an appearance, but Sora was never told what her name was to avoid both confusion and the need to have dialogue addressing this.
Jimmney’s journal didn’t address it ?
This was my theory when I first saw the Yozora cutscenes. I think this is very likely. Yozora sees himself as someone else but Sora can see him clearly. Yozora on the other Part thinks his girl Sora also took another body and now looks like our Sora. Someone manipulated Yozora pretty badly and hes not clear whats real or whats a dream (car scene).
As we saw MoM in his Secret Ending Quadratum it was pretty much the work of the MoM hinself to "challange" Yozora as he said he had to go trough somd trials to get to safe his girl Sora.
These trials are gonna be Rikus trials in the next game to get to Sora.
This is basically where I'm at with it too
You may be right. After all Yozora reacted strongly to the word Sora which means that name means something to him. Perhaps that is her name.
or riku told yazora to find sora
@@MrSkatebox09 But wouldn’t Riku describe Sora?
@@vins2030 Still Luxor could have surely described Sora’s appearance to Yozora. I’m still certain that the Sora that Yozora clearly seems to know is the nameless woman. If you look at his body language he is clearly in shock that there is another person by the name of Sora, plus there’s the fact that the nameless woman looks a fair amount of what Sora would look like if he was female. Clearly seeing Sora’s appearance plus hearing that name triggered a memory in Yozora.
Oh shit!! I'm riding with this theory, it's dope!!
"What would be the opposite of a night sky?"
Daytime earth
This was a good theory video. Another thing I'd like to point out is that Riku and Sora are unisex names in Japan so this only strengthens your point that the star could be called Sora or at least have it as part of her name. For example, she could be named Aozora (blue sky).
Yep. In fact there’s a character from the original Digimon, a female character, named Sora. So I suspect if Sora isn’t her first name it could be a nickname. After all Yozora reacted strongly to the name so he clearly knows someone who is called Sora.
Omg YES I’ve always loved your big brained take on this theory, and I’ve gone back to look at the old ones u made and honestly each time they make more an more sense, like I think you’re one of the few that actually uses their yt platform to put this theory into the light omg
Lol thanks I appreciate that. I've always believed this theory but I felt like nobody (including me) had really done the theory justice. Hopefully this video remedied that
Bruh none of this makes sense Ava is the star 🙄
If The nameless star's real name is "sora", then it would make sense for yozora to fight sora , as the nameless star mentioned that her "name" was taken away. Maybe Yozora fought Sora thinking he was the one who took away the nameless star's name?
Also I believe "Magia" and "Aegis" might not be their name. Probably it's their class like "Mage" and "Shield". I believe they have japanese proper names to fit in the naming convention.
If Aegis and Magia are their real names, then it's possible it might parallel Sora Donald and Goofy instead of the Island Trio.
Exactly! That's where I was going with my point about him having to fight her, because in my older theories about Yozora "Saving Sora", this is something I mentioned(albeit a bit messily). I believed that because her heart had been taken, Yozora was mistaking KH Sora for being the new form of his Sora, because he knows that he lost his heart and his form was changed, so he knows it's likely. The question I'm now asking myself is, who exactly is the threat in their world that is causing these problems? 🤔
Agreed. It’s why I think it’s her name or at least a nickname. Yozora reacted strongly to hearing the word Sora which means it has some significance for him.
The only thing that makes me question this is the “I went through some trials and was told to save sora” line. I have a feeling that the yozora battle takes place after Riku had been to Quadratum already.
That line was giving me some trouble with this theory too at first. I was also thinking that it's possible the Yozora fight may take place after Riku meets him, but that leads to a bunch of questions I've yet to see answered:
Why would Yozora be taking this mission so personally? Think about when he says "then my path is clear", you can see the way he clenched his fist (that's just one of a few examples). He seems almost upset he has to fight.
Why doesn't he recognise him and why doesn't he mention that Riku sent him?
Why does he decide to fight him in order to "save" him? I mean, would Riku really have said "when you find Sora beat him up and put him in a crystal"? (Maybe as payback for KH1? Lmao).
How could fate have brought them to this point if he doesn't even know Sora yet?
Why would he be getting offended and say "Why are you using Sora's name?" if he is supposed to be looking for him?
If it turned out it was Riku that sent him then there'd need to be some very good answers to all those questions.
My theory answers all those questions, and is even backed by the original purpose of the character a lot of us agree the Star is based on
Also, before Yozora says he went through some trials, he says "I wandered into this place". He isn't in Quadratum, which is where he would have met Riku. I'm sure he wakes up in Quadratum though but that's after the fight
@@NextGenNovelist which is why he would question if that sora. cuz he is in his dreams and not the real world
@@NextGenNovelist I think that Yozoora is in TWEWY world and his mission in order to be allowed to leave that world is that he has to save Sora. That could explain all of his reactions in relation to the dialogue with Sora.
The other point that I have to question your theory (which is still super well exposed) is this: the nameless star clearly states that Yozoora is not "himself" and that he kinda forgot her. So this would mean that the Yozoora we met maybe is not the real thing. Maybe he is possessed and cannot remember her. If he truly is in such condition, why would he react to the name "Sora" even if it was her real name?
@@Nyla_emotes It could be because his subconscious told him that a person with the name Sora, who was special to him, needed help. Memories are a powerful key. A single word, a scent, an action, a sound, can bring about a rush of memories. So by Sora saying his name something clicked in Yozora, a memory of a person who had connections with that name. Hence why he reacted so strongly to the name Sora.
As to why the nameless star was concerned about Yozora being changed, wouldn’t you be concerned if a person you were close to changed? It could be she witnessed a certain event that caused Yozora to be changed before she lost pretty much everything. So when Sora said she just needed to have some faith it probably kindled a flame of hope for her that Yozora would find a way to reverse the process that changed him and thus seek her. Here’s hoping that it follows that path.
You makes some really great points, and I never knew about the "Shibuya Sky" observatory bit- clearly Nomura chose that building on purpose. Whether it's a reference to her name, or to KH Sora (since Sora ends up where that building looks over, near Shibuya Scramble Crossing in the secret ending). I've been leaning towards thinking her name is likely Hoshi, because I just think it might be strange to have such similar names between Yozora and the Girl (Yozora and Sora, if that was her name) but I can't deny the evidence. The part in the secret episode that really trips me up is when Yozora says "Why are you using Sora's name?" implying at the very least that he didn't expect this "Sora" he was told to save to look like our Sora. I don't think he remembers the girl anymore (As nameless star mentioned that his heart had been replaced, also implying that he might not remember her), he just knows that this person was important to him and that he's supposed to save them. That's why after he defeats Sora, he gently touches Sora's knee and vows to save him (in jp he uses the same exact words as in the kingstagram post that shows beforehand, labeled with #/Chikai (Oath)). That's not something you would do with someone you thought was a complete stranger, even if you were told to save them. He now believes Sora (our Sora) is someone he knows personally and is precious to him- in other words, his memory is being messed with. Very similar to how in CoM Sora's memory was messed up to the point where he was convinced that Namine, a complete stranger to him, was a precious person to him and someone he had vowed to protect.
Great comment. I can tell you really paid attention to my points in the video and I appreciate that. I'm glad you noticed that subtle body language Yozora displays that demonstrates he is personally invested in "Sora" despite clearly not knowing this particular Sora. The observatory bit is almost always forgotten about when people disagree with this, but they use the building MoM stands on as evidence of his name/identity..
I addressed it in the video, but just to add my issue with Hoshi is that it's basically what everyone in Japan would be calling her anyway. "Na mo naki Hoshi". Nomura himself is Japanese so he doesn't say "nameless star" he says Hoshi anyway. Would he really call her that? It's like if it turned out her name was just "Star", like after all this build up that's what her name is? If that's the case, why hide her name? It's not like that's a twist or anything (we're already calling her star anyway). Her name has been hidden for two games now, which means it's being built up to like a reveal, which strongly implies her name has significance to the audience despite her seemingly being a brand new character.
She says her name was "taken" from her, and then Yozora says why are you "using" Sora's name. So if you take something from someone, it means you can now use it yourself, but they no longer can (which might also explain why she doesn't use/identitfy with her own name anymore).
@@NextGenNovelist I can see Nomura using the name Hoshi in a cheeky way; he loves to hide things in plain sight (like Riku’s Dream Eaters symbol in ddd) so him naming her “Star” when we’ve been introduced to her as a literal star, plus her necklace being a star, seems very in line with something he would do. But the evidence for her name being Sora does feel stronger for reasons you mention. But one more interesting thing to note, if her name was Hoshi, is that combining her name with Yozora’s, you would get the word “Hoshizora” which actually means “starry night sky”. I’m reminded of the kingstagram post with #/oath. So, the symbolism of the name Hoshi would still be pretty good- after all, the Night Sky without stars is nothing but darkness...
Either way, she has many parallels/similarities with Sora. It might also interest you that she also seems to be set up as a parallel to Riku (Nomura loves his layered parallels after all, so Yozora and NS both have connections to both Sora and Riku, not strictly one or the other). The theme of dreams and dreams coming true is becoming clearer as Riku’s new arc, it’s why Fairy Godmother appears and why Riku’s Kingstagram post in Limit Cut has a reference to Cinderella’s song “A Dream is a Wish Your Heart Makes” with “I believe in Sora” and “#/wish”. Then in khmom Fairy Godmother states that NS also has a precious dream, and Riku wants to help it come true.
In addition, in the novel we get insight into Sora’s thoughts when he meets Nameless Star, and interestingly, she reminds him of someone he can’t think of. He thinks of Aqua, but still he is reminded more of someone else and is bothered that he can’t think of who. It’s Riku- this is why he tells her Riku’s words- but he doesn’t remember it was Riku that said those words, which is made clearer in the jp version (Sora losing his memory of Riku’s sacrifice and also his memory of saving Riku’s heart may well be a clue to why Yozora looks like Riku, but that’s a whole other theory). Anyway, sorry for the long reply 😅 I think these characters are fascinating
@@CampingforCool41 Hoshizora was suggested by other commenters on this video back when I released it, and I immediately took a liking to it. I think it's a great way of both answering the "Sora confusion" (cos Sora could be like a shortened version of Hoshizora) and it removes all the issues people have with there being two Soras. I've considered before that she's like a parralel to Riku or like an alternate reality version of KH Sora. I don't view Yozora as this perfect parralel to KH Sora the way most people do. And you've made some interesting observations relating to that, that I've never heard before or considered. I certainly think your line of thinking is plausible. The dreams element is certainly coming into play again just like with DDD, and like you say, NS is supposedly someone who has a powerful dream/wish, one we still don't know about yet (I'd assume it's reuniting with Yozora and getting her identity back but could be a twist). But yeah very good points, I enjoy reading comments like this so don't apologise for making them
I already thought your videos on this before had merit, but after this one I'm totally convinced!! The only thing that had me doubtful before was in MoM she didn't respond to the name Sora, but you explained that, so now I'm sold. Very good insights and I like how you address possible issues with the theory too, it shows you've considered the alternatives. I like how the video was structured too!! 😊😁 Very much worth the watch!
Yeah, her not reacting to the name threw me off too, but I think that was partially classic Nomura misdirection, but then there's a possible reason for her not going by her own name too. Appreciate the kind words!
@@NextGenNovelist Nomura certainly loves to mess with us so it's no surprise he's creating confusion over the name Sora! He knows we'd overlook the Star and immediately think its KH Sora cos that's the only one we know!! And you're welcome 😊
Tetsuya Nomura named Noctis (night sky) to accompany the name Sora (sky) because Sora KH and Noctis V13 were "like a son" to him. The word "sky" was important for some reason to Nomura. There was an interview about it, it's even in wiki under Noctis' name.
The name Stella "Nox" Fleuret in Versus, especially the word "Nox" is another form of Noctis. Nomura name her to share something similar with Noctis. Yozora and Nameless Star could be in the same idea (Yozora and Sora).
At 10:49, Stella golden symbol is from God Pulse, while Noctis blue symbol is from Goddess Etro. Pulse (ally to God Bhunivelze) is not an ally to Etro. If Verum Rex shared the idea of Versus, then they're indeed opposite. Toy Box Rex told us about Bahamut (a summon of Final Fantasy, a being close to Etro). Rex also needs to get pass Bahamut (using the character Yozora). Nomura even added that car scene to tell us which Final Fantasy he meant with Yozora, that is Versus.
I think your theory is correct, even if you get big W or big L doesn't matter lol.
I was in the process of making this video when I saw your comment on my other video, so I thought you might appreciate the Versus portion of this video. I completely forgot about Rex mentioning Bahamut, but yeah even more evidence. You're much more familiar with the XIII/Fabula Nova Crystallis lore than I am. Hopefully I'm not wrong and the Nameless Star doesn't just become another Lunafreya, cos she does kinda seem closer to that than Stella in terms of personality lol
Very interesting comment. Actually you made me realize that I did not put too much attention to what the dinosaur Rex was saying. Might be important.
Just for being 100% correct, Stella Nox translates to "Star of the Night" (not into night sky) and Fleuret is a type of sword.
Anyway I totally agree with you in hoping she will be more like the "Stella" from Versus rather than like Luna from XV (and same for Yozoora I would add)
So when he says “I was told to save sora” could that mean he’s trying to save “sky” aka the nameless star. Interesting theory!
So Sora and Yasora in the Fictional World are their versions of Riku and Sora. One of Light the other of Darkness forced to fight each other only to have the light be the place of the enemy.
This is the video I’ve been looking for. I’m 100% on board. Exactly what I’ve been thinking. You worded it very well!
Maybe the nameless Star is dead. When she died, maybe she was reincarnated as our Sora. Or maybe after she died, Xehanort or the master of masters took a piece of her heart and put it in sora? Idk a bunch of speculation
The same exact thing that happened to yozora probably ALSO happened to her
“Been changed beyond recognition, heart replaced with another’s”
She did say that someone took her name and everything about her, which means someone in their world has stolen her identity. I believe it's possible that Yozora believes KH Sora is that person, and that's why he thinks he has to fight him in order to restore her to her original self. But that would mean her name is indeed Sora
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Big theory:
Sora may have her name or a peice of her heart. Our Sora definitely has nothing to do with it tho. I think the Master of Masters is behind that. He likely needed both our sora and yozora to meet for something big. Or at least he needs sora to be in quadratum. But since they are both in two completely different realities, it wouldn’t be easy for them to meet, unless fates were forcibly tied together. So the master probably took a peice of her heart that contains her name and put it inside KH sora’s so that sora would inevitably end up in quadratum when he dies or disappears... I can’t wait to see what else happens from here. I wonder what the master is planning for sora especially. And another big question, what is KH sora’s real name if all of this is correct? Could his real name possibly be “Yozora”?
The star is Ava Xigbar talks about he even looks up to the sky this theory is wrong
Alright I watched this video just out of curiosity not really believing you'd convince me but I'm pretty darn well convinced. Not enough to say this is definitely the answer but it has a very high probability of being totally right. Thanks for the quality content!
this duality between yozora and the nameless star definitely exists, but they've definitely set up some form of duality with sora and yozora as well
also why are sora's dreams connected to yozora's as well. there's a bigger link to them than just a name
When Yozora beat Sora which lead to him being frozen, he said he will save "Sora", he actually meant her, the Nameless Star.
The Sora we know as "Sora" is NOT the REAL Sora. He will transform into a the antagonist who is possed by Xehanort in KH IV. Yazora will have to save Stella who is actually Sora with her full powers Obtained. Yazora ask's Sora why he uses that name "Sora", because the Sora we know as Sora is NOT the REAL Sora. He is Quadratums' version of their dimension comparing to Unreality or Fiction. So Sora real name is actually Stella's Physical form, but her real name is Sora.
Thats why both Yazora and Sora claim "is any of this for real or not" and "none of this makes sense to me". Its because they don't remember the appearances of the REAL Yazora, and REAL Sora.
Square stole everything about Stella, obliterated her and replaced her with Luna. Square took Noctis and twisted him into another person. It's pretty meta and makes complete sense to me
the thumbnail make me remember into spider verse movie lol
p.s, nice vid
LMAO Spiderverse? Why? 🤣
I like your dedication to this theory, but here’s one major issue that I see should her name be Sora. In the secret episode, Yozora specifically says “I wanders into this place and did some trials, THEN, I was told to save Sora”. If Sora was the name of the girl and we assume that Yozora was trying to save her, why would it be brushed off by him as something that someone else seemingly told him he needed to do? A good amount of your theory is based on that it’s a core of Yozora’s mission to save her and not a passing thought. Now maybe it is a passing thought and Yozora grew to feel the need to save her after he was told to, but that would be kinda counter intuitive of the Verum Rex trailer where it seemed like he was really distraught by it.
I personally feel like Yozora’s reaction to finding out Sora’s name is really more of him finding out that this is the Sora he’s looking for and be told to find when he entered some trials. “You’re Sora” seems to be intended to be read as him questioning if this is the person he was told to save and not as if he’s questioning why this random person has the name of the person I’m looking for or if this maybe is the person I’ve been looking for but stripped of their original identity.
But of course, there’s the “why are you using Sora’s name”, how can such evidence that suggests more of a same name not be the answer to which I reply, it’s the trails. Yozora mentioned how his form isn’t his real form yet he still retains his name to which many link it to the reapers game to which bodies are taken and swapped. Who’s to say that the same can’t happen where the name changes but the body stays the same. We literally went through an entire saga dedicated to understanding how this body of Terra is actually Xehanort, this heart of Xehanort is called Ansem, and these memories of Sora is called Xion. He’s likely disillusioned, he doesn’t know if what he sees is real. Is this person who says he’s Sora actually Sora or is it another trick to mess with me. He accidentally wandered and had to save Sora, he wants to go back and to have to keep questioning where is this Sora who’ll help me escape and probably came across many who toyed with him until he found the right one.
But that’s just my thoughts. Just a different interpretation to reading into the situation. Sure it doesn’t give an answer to the name but if does suggest why it may not with emphasis on the MAY. We have no clue what goes through Nomura’s head, so any line of reasoning could be taken.
Thanks for taking the time to write out this comment. Honestly, this is a great counter and it features some things I've had to wonder myself.
That line of "then I was told to save Sora," had bugged me because of how nonchalantly he said it. I also wondered why would he need to be told to save her, but the Nameless Star said herself she can't be sure he's coming for her because his heart was replaced with another's, meaning it's possible he won't fully remember anything, until as you said, it was mentioned to him and part of him was triggered by the name, still remembering.
He reacts so strongly to the name, and he is clearly taking the mission very personally. Look at the bad ending when he defeats Sora, the way he places his hand on the crystal, closes his eyes and says "I will save you", I just can't see him speaking that way about a stranger.
To your point about the commercial, its a good one. If he's so determined to save Sora in that scene, how did he forget by the time he meets KH Sora? This may also be because his heart was replaced with another's. Remember, between the time of that commercial and when Sora meets the Nameless Star, she had already lost her form. Which means a lot has happened since that commercial. We don't even know how long ago that commercial was for Yozora and the Nameless Star. But I'd wager something most likely happened to Yozora between that commercial and when Sora meets him, whatever it was that caused him to be changed beyond recognition, and that's why he's confused.
And remember, we know for a fact the Nameless Star Is from the same world as Yozora, and we also know that she's waiting for him specifically to rescue her (she whispered his name into Sora's ear). So we know that she needs saving, we know that Yozora needs to save someone called Sora, and we still don't know what the Nameless Star's name is yet but we know she needs to be saved by Yozora
YES I'VE THEORIZED THIS TOO!! So glad to see I'm not crazy!
You might be crazy, but if you are, we're both crazy!
Could Sora have taken the nameless star’s name?
I don't see why, but some people believe that the MoM set up all of this. So if that's true, I suppose the only way I see this being possible is if MoM is originally from the other side, and basically somehow created Daybreak Town, and the book of prophecies to specifically create an entire universe (the KH universe) and Sora was part of his creation, and maybe he was based on the Sora from the other side, but I'm not sure if that means he took her name, or if it would just explain why they have the same name. But personally I think it's unlikely at this point, but not impossible
Very good theory here NextGenNovelist! 👍🏽
You are slightly off with the Days trio. In German Roxas means "Twilight Sky", Lea means "Land", and Xion means "Tide".
Making the once again fit the theme of air, earth, water. Sora, Riku, Kairi - Ventus, Terra, Aqua - Roxas, Lea, Xion.
Ah okay, I could see their names fit a convention but I didn't realise they were from an actual language. I should have because I already knew Axel and Xion are real names... Anyway, thanks for the correction!
@@NextGenNovelist yes, Axel means "Stone man" still kinda the earth theme.
And so we are still missing someone fitting for the element of "Fire". Interesting
@@Nyla_emotes i've always wondered about that.
@@NextGenNovelist So...
Aqua- water
Terra- earth/dirt/land
Ventus- wind
Kairi- sea
Riku- land
Sora- bird
Xion- tide
Lea- land/stone
Roxas- red light of the day/ has a heart sharing a bird and wind
This has to be the truth of it! I believed the nameless star was Streletzia until Melody of Memory. Then I was like maybe its that girl Yozora was trying to save but then I wondered why her name was missing. In all honesty, with just the "facts of the matter" section of the video you could EASILY justify this theory. But you gave more evidence than just that. This makes a lot of sense so even if it turns out you're wrong, you bloody well shouldn't be! Consider me a new subscriber. I look forward to your future videos.
I think this name question is a lot simpler than people think. I believe you are right the nameless star is probably going to have the name Sora.
Point 1 is that she states that her name and everything was stolen. Point 2 Yazora needs to fight KH Sora to save his Sora.
The logical outcome of the two points is that if KH Sora states he's Sora in a universe where name theft is a thing that KH Sora stole VR Sora's name.
I don't believe we should use verses 13 to gain much insight into the next Kingdom Hearts game since the context for the games are completely different. If anything the Nameless Star would have a name meaningful for Kingdom Hearts. Sora is the best fit and is the type of confusing thing the director is kind of known for.
Very fair points. I'd be happy with all this being true. Tbh, I think I did overdo the Versus section a bit lol
Stella is the Star in the Night Sky(Noctis) [or rather, the Light in his Dark Kingdom]... I feel like if we follow THIS type of train of thought(where nearly EVERYTHING is a message with more than one meaning), we'll get to the bottom of the Nameless Star's name...
So, (Nameless Star)_____ is the _____ in the Night Sky (Yozora)
Potential: Luna? is the Moon? in the Night Sky ... I feel this could fit, as it fits the Light in Darkness motif, and the name follows the Latin motif
Double-Down: The Moon reflects the Suns light... Nameless Star could very well be the reflection of Light in Unreality... j/s
This makes a lot of sense. I could see this being the case and I like the metaphors, particularly to do with her being the reflection of the light, which might imply some sort of connection with the Master as well as Yozora. So that's a very good suggestion. Do you have any thoughts on the "Sora confusion" that's going on with Yozora (him wondering why he's using Sora's name/having an emotional connection to the name Sora) and how that might fit into this if her name is something like Luna?
I just remembered that Luna is the name she has in FFXV, which is short for Lunafreya.. Hmm. Maybe not Luna then lol. But I still like the idea
I kinda think that the master of masters is using yozora to accomplish his goals, and if the nameless star’s real name is sora, he’d use that to his advantage. If yozora had to go through some trials, you can infer that someone had to give him those trials to begin with, so it’s possible that the master of masters gave him trials and then told him to save sora, which could mean a multitude of things if the nameless star is ALSO named sora and would make it difficult for yozora to know which sora the M.O.M is talking about. Also how did yozora get the the final world (night time) in the first place? Unless he was shown how to get there by someone👀 most likely the m.o.m yet again.
Well holy shit. This works.
It makes sense from your points especially since one of your points was the fact that they represent light and dark or yin and yang and since sora means sky and yozora means night sky then yeah it’s definitely possible that her name is sora also look at how he reacted when he said “Your Sora”
Exactly. He has a very strong reaction to that name when he hears it which means he knows someone who goes by that name. And I suspect that it is, at least, the nameless woman’s nickname.
Very nice theory! Your analysis is great no doubt about it. I personally hope her name to be Stella or the japanese version of Stella just because it is already so complicated as it is right now... Somebodies, nobodies, people looking the same but being different people, data versions of people, new timeline versions of people and so on... If we start having same names it will just be very overwhelming.
I have anyway an alternative that I have not seen anyone talking about: the nameless star will be named.... SHIBUYA :D (joking of course)
Lmao you say you're joking, but who knows what madness Nomura could pull out
NextGenNovelist ahahah I hope my joke will be proven totally wrong xD
How abt this for a theory.
Just as MOM had luxu as his apprentice, what if AVA also had an apprentice (yozora) and AVA read the book of prophecies. She wanted Sora to live on and not allow darkness to win as predicted in the book. So she gave yozora and luxord a task. Luxord had to give sora the card and yozora had the task to save sora so that sora can battle MOM when time comes as MOM had not planned for sora to live on.
Yozora reacting to sora name is due to his whole mission from AVA is that this guy can change history
There’s one hole in your theory. The Nameless star doesn’t introduce herself nor claim the name Sora for herself because when we first meet her she says “they took away my name” meaning she can’t remember who she is.
I don’t think that’s a hole in his theory. I think it was Nomura’s way of having these two characters meet without her immediately going “Oh! My name’s Sora too! Tee hee!”
I mean, the guy does label this as a theory of his, so he’s not denying the ambiguity still surrounding the question. He knows there isn’t a conclusive answer so there’s no real way to say that a non-answer to a question about her name creates a hole in his theory. It just neither confirms nor denies the theory’s validity…
Lol I'm not sure if you realize, but not only did he address this like 2mins into the vid but that entire point actually supports his theory if anything. I came to this vid cos I'd heard someone who disagreed with it say that she doesn't reply saying her name is sora so it doesn't make sense, which I agreed with, but this guy actually addressed that in this video and made a pretty logical case for it. If her memory is gone or something similar then that explains why she doesn't say her own name is Sora even though she heard the name
Oh also I wanted to know if you could talk about that kingstagram post that shows up before the whole Yozora cutscene 😳 any idea how it connects?
I imagine it was just a fun thing that was thrown in to create mystery, but I'll look at it a bit more and if I see more in it then I'll certainly make a video about it
I just hope we get a pink-haired girl named Ikazuchi or something of the like
its too bad we'll not know until 2022. if even lol
This is all so very interesting and compelling 😍
Maybe her name will be Aoi or Aozora, witch means Blue Sky, or Misora, beautiful sky
So you are saying Yozora is the Riku counterpart and "Stella" is Soras counterpart AND alsi genderbend Sora. Huh! Spicy!
Absolutely agree with you.
aight im totally convinced
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Transgender Sora confirmed !!
Plot twist Nomura just want to connect FF character to KH world parallel world confirmed
Versus 13 is organisation 13
Zexion/Noctis/Yozora/M.O.M= same shit
Luxord/Ignis/Magia= same shit
Luxu/Xigbar/Gladiolus=same shit
Aegis/Prompto/Demyx=same shit
LMAO
So.......if this is true then I guess the nameless star and yozora is the SoRiku ship if Sora is a girl. 😅
Actually a person on tumblr actually pointed out that the nameless woman (who is 99.95% the nameless star) has similar features to our Sora, particularly in the brows. So I wonder why the nameless woman was made to have similar features to Sora? It might be something as simple as Nomura liked the aesthetics for that character but this is Nomura, he has something in mind. I can’t see her being a doppelgänger (a person who looks a lot like another person without necessarily being related) but perhaps she’s Sora’s parallel self. If so then it would make it especially poignant if the nameless woman was indeed named Sora because she was what Sora would be if he had been a female. Of course I’m probably overthinking this.
Yozora is gonna be the second act boss and he’s a key blade hunter . He has the key blades on his jackets with a skull ☠️
"Sure, ive heard of you"
Im looking forward to seeing Kairi and Sora reunited!
I was thinking ... What if yozora and the Nameless Star are alternate version of riku and sora theirself? The girl we see in verum Rex fake trailer may seems a ripoff Kairi, but if you look closely, she has brown hair, and her face is very much similar to sora's face as we see it in cinematic cutscenes (like the secret ending for example ). And talking about the secret ending, we see riku and sora wake up in different places (the different colors make us understand that), but yozora is in the riku side, and he's looking him. Then, in the cutscene before sora and yozora fight, there's a clear shot on yozora fist as he talk about saving sora. That is a riku tipical gesture, the framing and the way he clenches and then extends his fist, and he usually always does when it comes to sora. And then riku and yozora are practically identical, which is pointed out twice, during the toy box level, and in the kingstagram post, where sora himself says that "yozora looks so much like riku" (he event put the hashtag riku 🤣) . I think it would be strange if it was just a sentence thrown at random
Yep I agree with everything you've said, and I've seen others say something similar
But also something that I think is very important that I personally haven't emphasised enough, is that Yozora has an emotional connection to the name Sora. The fist clench is one thing that shows it, but also as soon as he hears the name Sora his entire mood changes, then when he asks "why are you using Sora's name?" he sounds almost offended by it, again another strong emotion, and then in the bad ending when he turns Sora into a crystal he gently places his hand on it, closes his eyes and then has this determined look and genuinely says "I will save you". The thing that no theory that claims her name isn't Sora ever answers, is why he reacts like this if he blatantly doesn't know KH Sora but he cares strongly about the name. Also why would Nomura write it so that Yozora is confused about the name Sora at all if there isn't someone else with the name? Even if somehow its not the Nameless Star, thinking there's absolutely nobody else with the name "Sora" doesn't add up if you're paying close attention to the scene
@NextGenNovelist I also believe that the girl's name is Sora, and I added that in my opinion she is not only called sora, she is an alternative version of him. And it goes without saying that yozora is that of riku in my opinion, mostly because of the bond between him and the girl, riku spends half the saga trying to save his friend, they have many things in common
@@scarlettross3862 Great minds think alike. I too believe she is a parallel version of him from an alternate universe. In fact the similar facial features have been noticed by a Tumblr user who has blogged about the similar facial features. I have to warn you the post is biased towards the SoRiku fan pairing so if you’re not a fan of that pairing you don’t have to read it. It’s very interesting however. (Sorry I’m posting so late. I just discovered this post and I am thrilled someone else on RUclips picked up on the similar facial features between the nameless woman/nameless star and Sora. You have no idea how happy this makes me.)
marcirose.tumblr.com/post/618825488452993024/say-it-louder-for-the-people-in-the-back-but (post about the similar facial features between the nameless woman and Sora)
@@mirandagoldstine8548 don't worry, I'm totally soriku 🤣 it's not a ship, it's a reality hidden by etheronormativity. However, i saw that image, and it's even more evident. People who says that yozora and star are alternative version of sora (because yozora means night sky) and kairi are blind. She isn't even red haired, it's a shallow resemblace, but if you look closely they don't look alike at all, kairi had even changed haircut so... and they say 2 time that yozora is identical to riku, and in the secret ending yozora looks riku, so... maybe, and I say maybe, nomura put these two characters together cause he knows that he can't do the same with sora and riku, but the last is just speculation 😜
@@scarlettross3862 Oh thank you. I’m a Soriku shipper as well so when I looked at the side by side comparisons I was shocked! I think it’s a sign.
Makes sense.
Nomura should straight up release Verum Rex as a standalone game
its obviously NOT sora. you even say that she doesnt respond to that name. it might not necessarily be stella(though it 99% likely is) but its 100% not sora.
Even if I would personally prefer her to be named Stella your comment made no sense at all. He explained very well WHY she did not respond to the name "Sora" EVEN IF that could be her real name.
I mean, even if you are not in agreement with someone's theory you cannot say that they are wrong 100%. I personally would prefer the "Stella" (or japanese version) name, but this does not mean that I cannot listen and appreciate others theories and the good thinking they apply to their toughts!
@@Nyla_emotes he didn't really explain that
@@flygonkerel781 He did, they took everything away from her "including her name".
I'm on the fence thanks to your theory but something is holding me back. What's holding me back is I believe Yozora is supposed to contrast and be the mirror for KH Sora. Heck if you look at the meaning of the companions names, Magia and Aegis, it's Magic (Donald) and Shield (Goofy). Removing their names, while drawing attention to it, seems justified because it supports how obvious that trinity element is.
Further, if Yozora is supposed to have his own trinity, then his love interest should be something water related or in a loose way, be like water. The name Hoshi seems a bit plain and it's right on the nose of course, meaning Star. Hoshino meaning Star Field, Hoshina has various meanings but typically Star (Tree) or Star (Green), Star (Beautiful) or Star South. There are other variations that can give it a water type meaning.
I responded to your latest comment already, but I'll just say here again that I also think Sora looks similar to the Nameless woman, and Yozora looks similar to Riku. And I guess the parralels between Yozora and Sora are possible, but if that's all true, then that means this world probably has a parralel of everything/everyone (at least important) from KH. So is there a parralel to Xehanort that Yozora has to face? Who is the Riku parralel? I guess you could say the Nameless woman is the Kairi parralel, but that still leaves Riku currently unaccounted for. And the people who think the Nameless woman is Kairi's mirror are basing it on their looks, but then they say Sora and Yozora mirror when Yozora looks almost identical to Riku rather than Sora.
Still, I'm not really opposed to the idea the world's mirror, I think it could be very cool, and it doesn't entirely conflict with my theory, so both of them could be true, one possibility then is that Sora's parralel might be the Nameless woman rather than Yozora like Nomura is leading us to believe, or she's a parralel to another character, but her name is still Sora for whatever reason
Well in the first kh game, Riku was originally supposed to get the keyblade and be the protagonist. Had he gotten the keyblade, donald and goofy would have been teaming up with him, as that's the mission the king gave them. So in a world of fiction, aka a world of 'what if', what would happen if their worlds equivalent of riku, got the keyblade and met donald and goofy instead, instead of embracing darkness and losing the chance.
Now think what would have happened to sora in such a senario. No keyblade, defenceless, and without his two greatest supports in unknown worlds filled with heartless. He likely would have lost his heart to the darkness, much like the othersides version of sora isn't able to defend herself, only stand there as events take place, and eventually lose her heart.
I honestly don't think her name is Sora, 'cause in the Melody of Melodies' ending, she seems to recognize that "Sora" is referring to the boy she met and not herself, as when Kairi asked if she knew him, instead of pausing to think or saying something along the lines of "Oh, you meant him.", she immediately replied with "Yes. He was here." without a single pause, implying that he was the first person she thought of when she heard the name "Sora" and not herself, and I don't think she would have known that Sora was from the same side as Riku and Kairi.
Remember, Nameless Star has got everything "stolen" from her, including her name. Nameless Star probably doesn't know her name or is not allowed to use her name for some reason unknown (because it was "stolen" by somebody). If she did say her name, our KH Sora will not say "that girl, she told me about you" when he met Yozora. Plus, our KH Sora didn't introduce himself to Nameless Star, but Nameless Star knew Sora's name. Watch the cutscenes of Nameless Star and Sora, then also watch Nameless Star talking to Fairy God Mother, Riku and Kairi. Meaning, Nameless Star knew "Sora".
@@horrorpill Except A, she still had her memories, and B, what Nameless Star told Riku and Kairi was there and that he encouraged her not to give up, *which is what the very same Sora that Riku and Kairi were looking for did!* Also, I just rewatched the extra cutscenes of The Final World in KH3, and while yes, Sora never directly told her his name, *Namine* mentioned his name while in star form, so that might be how she got his name.
As for the reason why she didn't say her own name, I don't think it was because she wasn't allowed to or didn't remember. I think it's simply because someone else was using it, and she probably figured that if anyone told Yozora that "[Name] is waiting for you in the Final World", he probably wouldn't believe them. At least, that's my take on it. Could be wrong, but point is, Nameless Star knew they were talking about Kingdom Hearts Protag Sora specifically, not any other Sora.
What if “unreality” is where all of the final fantasy worlds are located.
I honestly think that Yozora was asked to save sora by the master of masters not that it's the nameless girls name. I believe the nameless girl to be Strelitzia.
Nameless Star whispered the name "Yozora" to our KH Sora, and our Sora had a "surprised" reaction to the name. This is proven even more in the cutscene between Yozora and our KH Sora before the DLC battle.
If Nameless Star is Sterelitzia, she should say Lauriam instead. She has no connection to Yozora. Since our KH Sora doesn't know Lauriam, he shouldn't have a surprised reaction to the whisper.
Our KH Sora never introduces himself to Nameless Star. But Nameless Star knew he is "Sora". Nameless Star got her name stolen by "somebody", so she either doesn't remember her name or cannot use her name anymore.
Idk if this matters but the nameless girl does have a star necklace. Also idk if you mentioned that already haha
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You have a lot of really good points and if if it wasn't the name "Sora" I might even agree with you. However having your main character share a name with another important character in your story is such a stupid thing to do that I just can't believe that they would really do it. The only way to really do something like that is to have one of the characters in this case the Nameless star have a nickname that everyone in lore as well as in fandom call them. But can the name Sora really be nicknamed?
Besides the opposite of night sky isn't just sky. The Sky is always the sky no matter the time of day and Sora has been compared to both the strength of daylight and the worlds that shine at night. No if anything the opposite of Night Sky should be something like Dawn or Noon Sky you know translated into Japanese. Even "The Moonlit Ground" world make more sense as an opposite.
Now all that isn't to say that I don't agree that Yozora thinks that the Nameless Star is the Sora that he is meant to save. However what we have to remember is that Yozora isn't all himself. His heart has been attacked by another and Nameless Star even claims that he doesn't really remember her. So his heart has been replaced with another, he has memory problems, and what we see isn't what he really looks like. Sounds like we have something close to a Terranort or Xemnas on our hands. Both characters where untrustworthy with names of important people from their lives before. Why should Yozora be any different.
You know... although Sora can't be nicknamed it might be a nickname. Since Yozora most likely has memory problems and they most likely where close in some way calling a loved one "My Sky" is something that people do. After all Kairi almost does it in her letter at the end of KH2. In that way Nameless Star will have her own name and not be confusing as well as have a reason for Yozora to call her that.
I kind of agree and disagree. Normally having two important characters having the same name would be stupid, because it is a stupid thing to do. The part I disagree with you on is the fact that "it's so stupid i can't believe they'd really do it." If this written by any other guy, you'd be right. This is Nomura we are talking about. It's so stupid and that is why it's probably true.
@@chloemarlowe3817 I have thought about it more and I really think that Nameless Star is really a mirror for Kairi. So her name is likely very close but not exact to Kairi's. Kind of like Yozora and Sora. There is likely a third character with a name close but not exact to Riku and given how Yxora looks at this point it might even be the person that took over Yozora and changed how he looks. This would mean that Riku's mirror might be a villain at lest at first but he could also be a victim that Yozora agreed to help that went wrong somehow.
As for Yozora knowing Sora's name there are honestly so many ways he could and reasons to be upset about it that doesn't seem likely it has anything to do with a girl that he might not remember at all.
You remember the secret movie "another side, another story" it starts with a girl on a beach that most people say is Kairi. Well her coloring and even the length of her hair makes her a much closer match to Nameless Star. Which means people have most likely been confusing Kairi and Nameless Star for years. Also at about the same time we get a voice for nameless Star we also star getting the back story for Kairi. I wouldn't be surprised if we also got clearer back stories for Sora and Riku as well. So that that the back stories for the Destiny trio can be compared and contrasted with what seems to be a broken trio on the "other side" or Reality 2 as I have been calling it.
It could be a nickname. Someone here suggested her name being Hoshizora (Starry sky) and it would fit with her star motif as well as make it sadder. Because when we learn that the person she is waiting for (Yozora) would call her Sora because it was easier to say that’ll hit hard as it would be a sign that even though Yozora has been through a lot he still remembers an important person he would call Sora. After all Yozora reacted strongly to the name Sora which does hint he has a history with a person who was called Sora.
@@mirandagoldstine8548 I don't mind Sora being a nickname. So long as Yozora is the only one that calls her by it.
However the more I think about it the more I am hoping that Nameless Star is more a mirror for Kairi then Sora. And Yozora is a mirror for Sora who for some reason is holding the mirror of Riku's heart but it is causing trouble to the point that it is changing how Yozora looks and other things.
I will admit that this is a hope not a true theory because we know next to nothing about any of these characters or Reality 2 but it is a very strong hope.
This trio could be ORA trio whose names end with ORA
Most likely the name is Sora as that would be some convoluted BS. Which has been the trend of KH since post 358/2.
I have one question is that a girl name that means sky?
I’ve love kingdom hearts but now final fantasy is getting involved which I’ve never played am I gonna have to now lol
I think it’s Hoshi. Hoshi means star in Japanese. Just like how Stella means star in Latin
I think her having the same name as the main protagonist would be a very shit idea honestly. We already have Ansem Seeker Of darkness and Ansem the wise, and it worked for them but we’re talking about the main character right? So imagine us calling them Sora the main character and Sora from Quadratum. Sounds stupid. I think her name may be Japanese for Star? Suta I think? Cuz Stella means Star in Italian, therefore Suta would make sense and Noctis means Night Sky in Italian, therefore Yozora makes sense.
Pretty solid theory though, it has credibility, good job.
To me, her name being Stella/Hoshi/Suta would be "a very shit idea". It's weak writing. How are you gonna hide a character's name for basically two games (implying it's a significant reveal) and then it turns out her name is just another way of describing what she literally is? "The Nameless Star's name is...... Star (in japanese/latin/Italian)!" Lmao. That's trash. Even if I'm wrong, Sora is the only name that fits that would make hiding her name for this long even justified.
But thanks for the comment! We might both turn out to be wrong
NextGenNovelist
Hahaha, yeah we might both be wrong. Maybe nomura just wanted to hide the name, but as I said before, your theory and evidence does make sense. I also thought her name would most likely be sora, and while playing MoM I was shouting at the screen “Say your name is sora!” Like a crazy person, I was that sure. But personally I think it won’t work too great in terms of naming another character the same name as the main character and being able to differentiate them just by name may be hard. If we could come to an agreement, I hope they call her Sora Hoshi or sora with any last name or title aka (Ansem the wise), cuz then that would differentiate her from the normal Sora who doesn’t have a last name/ title. So Sora Hoshi would be a great idea. Sky star, pretty epic.
@@sharpshooterxigbar5713 Damn that'd actually be a really good idea and very plausible. Also kinda gives everyone what they want. I actually hope this ends up being the case
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It’s great that we came to a conclusion where we’re both satisfied with the result, meanwhile combining our ideas and theories while remaining civil. I love this part of the internet, imma subscribe to you :)
@@sharpshooterxigbar5713 Yeah, I enjoy the discussion which is why I make these videos. And I appreciate the sub!
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bruh the nameless star is Ava the missing forerunner she even describes Luxu 🤦♂️
I think we have to stop lookin at FF13 and just stay focus on the facts they give up ... the game is dead we're never getting it
Sure, we probably aren't getting Versus XIII, but we are getting something that is blatantly based on it. To ignore the Stella comparisons I've made in this video means we have to ignore everything else that's similar to Versus then. And that doesn't seem sensible because there's way too many deliberate similarities
Sure, but Toy Box Rex said "Bahamut" inside Verum Rex. That is a giveaway to what Quadratum or Verum Rex might be inspired from (Versus).
@@NextGenNovelist I understand but your whole theory is based off a game that never game out , we don’t know what that world is or what’s in it. And to think it’s going to be similar to a game we never played just makes no sense to me. We have no idea how FFX13 Versus was going to play out and to base a theory on it seems misleading and wrong
@@chrisc7528 I get why you feel that way, which is why I mentioned a few times how Verum Rex is not Versus, but the connections are undeniable. Maybe I spent too much time on it for your liking, but to be fair, that's only evidence 1. Evidence 2 barely relies on it, evidence 3 is about Nomura's naming conventions specifically in KH, and if you watch evidence 4 (16:20) and onwards, none of that relies on Versus at all, but instead just the hard facts. I probably should have put those at the start of the video lol
nomura Obviously doesnt feel the same way dude
this theory makes zero sense my dude...
Ok I believe you