Only Murkrow - Pokémon Crystal Challenge - A decent Dark type?
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
- Another forgotten Pokémon! Murkrow got an evolution in gen 4 but in gen 2 it's only a single-stage Pokémon. Let's see how this little crow can do in Johto!
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10:13 There's an in-universe reason for how this fisherman got a level 10 gyarados! Canonically, the experiments Team Rocket was doing at Lake of Rage were attempts to use radio waves or that big machine in Mahogany town in order to make pokemon evolve at levels earlier than usual. This fisherman has just caught a poor magickarp that's been experimented on!
How Lance gets 3 dragonite. Though doesn't explain rock slide on his Aeorodacle (don't know how to spell the rock flying type Lance has)
@@greilthelegendaryhero252 i see the lance dragonites as them being his evolved dragonair from gen 1 but they nerfed the levels cause it would be over 100 otherwise.
you can actually catch level 10 gyarados in lake of rage as well while surfing. Edit they are min level 15 in gen 2 but in remakes u can catch lvl 10s.
@@greilthelegendaryhero252
Don't forget the Barrier Dragonite in gen 1.
For Yanma, I'd highly recommend going back in time to March 2002, and popping over to the NYC pokémon center. Steel Wing would be pretty helpful.
When another Yanma was sent to Washington DC but they knocked out that Yanma somewhere in Pennsylvania
Either way he still sucks
@@iantaakalla8180 wasn't that 2001 though?
Ooh, this one looks like it’ll be interesting to watch. Murkrow is one of those Pokémon that is actually kind of decent in Gen 2, unlike a certain Ice-Dark type...
Murkrow is hardly any better than sneasel, neither are good btw.
Since the girl is near the Sudowoodo, what about Sudowooman? No? Ok
@@et34t34fdf Actually, you're wrong. While neither pokemon are very good, Murkrow is loads better overall than Sneasel, at least in Gen 2. It actually has decent special attack and attack (85 apiece) to take advantage of its STAB moves, whereas Sneasel only has good physical attack and really shitty special attack. Both of Sneasel's STAB types are special attacks in Gen 2, making it considerably worse than Murkrow, and not just by a little either.
@@james_ford86 Its not considerably worse, that is just wrong.
If Murkrow had crunch then it would be a good mixed attacker, but STAB faint attack of 85 base is okay for in-game, though fairly lame competitively.
If we are talking in-game, both gets past the ghost trainers with their dark typing, so its not as big of a bonus as you think, murkrow just turns 2hks into ohks against Morty more often, while Sneasel will have to do another hit because its special attack is terrible, but seeing as Gengar basically cant touch dark types makes that a moot point anyway.
Another point on the special side, murkrow doesnt really have anything beside faint attack to use its decent special attack for, icy wind and if you want, hidden power? Thats about it.
Sneasel doesnt get good stab, but it does have better coverage in fighting and ground moves(mud slap doesnt count), so there is that, its also lightning quick, though murkrow is fast enough to rarely go last anyway.
Neither can take a hit is my point, which is mainly why both are awful.
@@et34t34fdf Having STAB Moves that the Pokemon can actually make use of, even if it's only a few moves, compared to a Pokemon that lacks any decent STAB moves due to its stats being too low is a HUGE improvement. Sure, Sneasel is faster and hits slightly harder on the physical side, but it can't use that good physical attack stat for anything that gains STAB. This makes Murkrow a much better option, whether we're talking in-game or competitive, than Sneasel.
No one is saying either Pokemon belongs in the upper tiers of competitive battling for Gen 2 as, like you said, both Pokemon are pretty frail, but that still doesn't change the fact that Murkrow is clearly superior to Sneasel in Gen 2. When you're talking about Pokemon as frail as these two, the stats necessary to achieve OHKO's instead of two-hit KOs is a HUGE difference and can win or lose you the battle. That's why Murkrow is better than Sneasel.
"these pokemon aren't brought up in public discourse"
*shows dunsparce*
excuse me
Whats a dunsparce?
@@Pyxis10 20 years later and we still aren’t entirely sure.
Finally some love for the crow! Also, I really like the display of information around the screen. It's worth mentioning it
The overlay will improve in the coming months ;)
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Can't wait to see that ;)
If there was something i wish could happen is that Falkner has a Murkrow on his first gym battle, it’s a good way to introduce a new typing early in the game.
This and that he picked the Hoothoot line instead of the Pidgey line.
Really love Murkrow. If he was available at the start of the game, would be a permanent part of my team in G&S.
First a Chaotic Meatball premier, now a Scott's Thoughts premier - truly this Sunday is great for Pokemon
Agreed
It's nice to see another Dark type bird in Gen 2. Murkrow faired much better than the Dark/Ice Pokemon that we both definitely know is a Bird and not a monkey.
"Theres no way he caught a level 10 gyarados without a gameshark"
Bro do you not know the plot?? 😂😂
Pretty sure the lowest level Gyarados you can catch is around lvl 15 in Lake of Rage
@@Medabee8 I looked it up. You're right. Damn 😂😂
Can't he just have used a Waterstone?
@@Nathan_Moor Not on a magickarp
@@Medabee8 For some weird reason, though, the wild Gyarados at Lake of Rage are level 10-20 in the Gen 4 remakes.
19:47 "I'm starting this fight at a NICE level" is level 69... NICE!
yeah that's the joke
I always wished murkrow houndour and sneasel were available before the elite four. It astounds me that johto exclusive pokemon were all the way in Kanto post game.
I think pokemon like Murkrow, Gligar, Sneasal and now Stantler can be considered a little less forgotten since they received evolutions. In their debuts they certainly were underappreciated but they have since received more attention and love.
As a gen 2 lover who mainly shiny hunts in these games it is so much fun watching you do these runs with all of my favourite pokemon that get so little love! It's really cool to see all these pokemon in situations that I'm used to going through with the same old strategies!
You should do a venomoth run where it's type is randomized after every level.
Scott needs to do a playthrough with Venomoth, but it keeps changing types on a regular basis.
What do you mean ? It's always been Steel and Poison
I love this idea there has to be a mod for that somewhere right?
Steel/Poison? I always thought it was Psychic/Dragon :U
@@silverwindyaku9859 Nah but I can see the confusion. Venomoth was always fairy/fighting
Y’all trippin. Venomoth is clearly a Bone type
*props to anyone who gets the reference*
skiploom is by far one of my favorite Pokémon, solely because I actually found a full (old) odds shiny hoppip by complete accident at one of the wild poke spots, and decided to use it on my team to catch Pokémon. Its when I got to learn just how powerful this little guys was, as it was amazing for putting shadow pokemon to sleep, as well as poison and leech seed Pokémon that I needed out of the way. Just remember, 75% is 100%, skiploom will always go first, and leech seed, poison powder, and giga drain is an amazing combination.
Edit: forgot to add In Pokémon: Gale Of Darkness, which had a shiny chance of about 1 in 8000, to that crazy hoppip encounter. Even better, when you encounter it, it actually shows up as shiny in the overworld when you see it eating, which was very crazy for me.
0:25 "grumpy little magpie". Ah yes, Murmagpie. I also love how Murmagpie has white spots in its feathers, like magpies tend to have. Can't stand those all-black crows.
EDIT: Oh my god you even called it Murmagpie. I didn't even notice until 3 minutes into the video. You're the best. Love you, man. Keep rocking.
Murkrow's battle sprite is adorable in Gen 2!
2:00 I was just about to ask where the stat sheet was. It's so neat to see you adding these as they become relevant (along with your moveset).
10:20 I think there's lore reason why a fellow so close to the Lake of Rage has low level Gyarados, remember that Team Rocket is sending out a radio wave that makes Pokemon evolve faster in the area.
If I could make a suggestion, perhaps you could colorcode the Hidden Power based on the type it is?
I have to say that I enjoyed the how the background was introduced. Letting the information get onto the screen when the script starts to talk about each piece just works for me.
Yeah, I'm trying to eliminate the introduction entirely. Start with footage asap, and then bring the graphics up onto the over lay as I begin discussing them. This vision will slowly show up over the next few videos.
19:12 Ghost being physical makes sense from a gen 1 perspective though, the only Ghost moves were Night Shade and Lick.
I do so enjoy these videos.
Over time they've become more and more scientific and anecdotal to the point where I feel I'm listening to a lecture at college on a subject I'm infinitely fascinated about by a fun professor
Wow, this was a really interesting run! Love how creative you got with the movesets. I also like seeing that your subscriber count is increasing!
Given all that, still waiting for Slowbro vs Slowking. Request #5
Oooh, a Slowking vs Politoed challenge would be really fun, too! :D
I love your videos man, super satisfying for people who grew up with the early gens like me. I remember being a kid and walking through the early routes with recently hatched eggs post game, this is the closest thing to what I was going for. Keep em coming!
I remember trying that too. I always wished they would let you re-battle gym leaders because then you could try out playthroughs with other Pokemon without reseting.
Hello Scott! Thanks again for another upload; I really enjoy your content! I tend to listen to the audio while working my overnight shift, so it helps keep things fresh!
Btw, I thought a suggestion for your content you might consider: a Nuzlocke solo playthrough! ("Squadlocke?" Working title.)
The idea is that you create a team of one Pokémon (e.g. Murkrow), and have 3-6 of them for a playthrough. The number of X Pokémon will depend on the generation and HM Pokèmon needed to progress through the game and optimize your actual team.
You can the alter the in-game EVs/IVs/Nature/etc to make variants of the same Pokémon for coverage. You can also let viewers comment and/or vote on names for upcoming Squadlockes (blessings for the algorithm)!
E.g. Murkrow Squadlocke: "Bulkrow" (Def & Sp.Def), "Sky Pie "(Attack, Speed), "Witchbird" (Sp. Attack, Speed)."
You can also adjust the use of common Nuzlocke rules in combination with your existing solo-run ruleset for difficulty settings.
This allows another method of playthough that uses your improves knowledge of battling/movesets/speed running while bringing a fresh spin to already successful content!
Best of luck and keep up the great work!
I gotta say, I really enjoy your use of save editor to set hidden power, nature, abilities, and stats. It sets you apart from other youtubers that does pokemon challenges.
Abilities and natures don't exist in Gens I and II, the gens Scott has done his playthroughs in.
Seeing Ursaring in the early montage reminded me that I did a solo run of Crystal with it a while back, and it had an extremely easy go of things from what I remember. I think I ran it with a normal type move, two of the elemental punches, and Feint Attack as its move set for as much coverage as possible.
Nice! Great vid.
Perhaps you could name the yanma “libel”, and remember that venomoth is dragon/fairy
Nice to see some love for Murkrow, the second best dark/flying type of the early generations (best being Venomoth obviously)
I need to stop putting these on as soon as I wake up xD Your voice is soothing, so I end up falling back asleep, had to watch it again today.
On the gyarados there is a small chance of finding immposibly leveled pokemon. For example in pokemon rby and lgfr you can find a level 8 or 9 pidgeoto in any grass between pallet and pewter.
there is also a chance to find an under leveled gyarados level 15-19 by surfing in the lake of rage
There are plenty of impossible leveled pokemon in gen 2
the Pidgeotto is only in Yellow version and is a reference to the anime, since Ash captures a Pidgeotto in Viridian Forest so you can do so in the game too ^^
I remember some other examples in other games too, and rarely even ways to catch 3rd stage evolutions like gengar!
@@Wildtrexkid It's nice if you get it early-game and it can wreck Erika with STAB Fly along with Charmeleon and its STAB.
WOW!!! This guy is great at the game. He really has a good thought process around the game and he puts together really intelligently done videos. The data and the methodology and stuff is rigorous and we trust his results.
Just finished watching Murkrow in action, that was so fun! Great video sir :)
Love the idea of giving every Pokémon a desirable Hidden Power rather than perfect stats.
You've got STAB Drill Peck coming from a good attack stat. Its going to be really good. Though, I can see problems with Jasmine big time
Umm... hate to burst your bubble, but Murkrow has never been able to learn Drill Peck without breeding.
@@dwanedibly8129 okay you watched the video. So did we by this time
@@gregsoon521 Actually, I knew that offhand.
@@dwanedibly8129 watched too much competitive to think that it has Drill Peck at this point
Hidden Power Fire can cook her Pokemon. Fire or Water are probably the best to use over all.
For what it's worth you inspired me to do these after mentioning your setback two uploads ago I plan on steam rolling trough gen 1 and so on to gen 3 (only one's I have on my phone and frankly want to play). My first was Blue with Grimer because again, your situation, and wanted to walk a mile in your shoes. No spoilers for how that played out. Keep up the good work!
Whoo first time being mentioned in the credit sequence! Keep it up man, your videos are the best. I'd say even Jrose levels by now
Thanks so much for supporting me and the high praise!
Murkrow is a serious hero lol 😂
This one was awesome. Like psychic Pokémon In Gen 1, I think that Game Freak didn’t realize how broken Dark type would be in Gen 2. Nice job on explains everything again Scott, I tend to learn at least one new thing every time I watch your videos. Thanks.
-Scott
I've been doing some scattered Gen 2 shiny breeding throughout the year, and Murkrow was on the list. I made sure it knew drill peck so it could actually have a decent STAB move to use with its alright attack stats. I just really wish there was a Switch version of Stadium 2 to use this stuff with.
One of the major problems with a lot of these pokemon is you have to work too hard to get them. They are either super rare, on a route late in the game, possibly after you beat the elite four etc. All for a pokemon that you'd have to level up from nearly nothing to even use on your team.
"I'm starting this fight at a nice level, so I'm hopeful of Murkrow's chances of getting lucky" lmaoooo
Murkrow was way stronger than I anticipated and you did a great job in this run showing that strength off :D
Awesome videos as always and pretty funny how you mentioned forgotten Pokémon and then Stantler gets an evolution
murkrow is underrated almost as much as your channel, you are doing a great job, keep going! :D
murkrow is my favorite pokemon so it's nice to see two videos on youtube that do murkrow only runs! I did a dark type only run in heart gold back in the day and murkrow was my champ!
I'm glad I used it! Flying moves in the early portion of Johto really impressed me. Certainly a bird that I'd like to use again.
Awesome 👌
I do like your forgotten pokemon series. Generation 2 was a huge part of my childhood as well. I did a ground type only nuzlocke challenge recently. My third attempt finally worked, though! 😊😊
Another great video. Nice work. Love how positive and informative your content is.
Glad I'm able to provide some positivity and knowledge :)
Murkrow and houndour were always favorites playing through and I always wanted them from the beginning
Murkrow was one of my favorite mons as a kid, so I'm very happy to see it get its shot in the spotlight.
Also, your videos have inspired me to make tier list-style videos of my own, so thank you for making such great content.
conversely, what do you use to set up this interface? I'd love to use something similar.
I’ll be making videos about how I create my content in the very near future.
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon That would be so nice to have. Can't wait!
Murkrow has always been one of my favorite pokemon. I've always had a tendency towards glass cannons, I love Dark types, and whenever I've played on randomizers and a Murkrow shows up I've always found it provided a lot of value.
Level 10 magikarp in lake of rage makes sense. Remember, team rocket is using radio waves to make Pokemon evolve. Always loved that touch to be honest.
To be fair to Fisher Marvin, underleveled Gyarados actually exist in this game. Not quite as low as lv10, but lake of rage actually holds Gyarados specifically from lv15 to 19 (presumably as subtle hint that these were force-evolved by the radio signal of Mahogany hideout). Thanks Team Rocket.
Regarding the AI: I actually constantly run into trouble when it comes to using Fly against Bruno because his Hitmontop tends to use Dig and Detect seemingly specifically to counter that move. Until seeing your Murkrow just blowing it away, I genuinely thought Bruno was a big brain.
I've really enjoyed watching the content just get better and better! You'll be doing full-time in no time.
Thanks so much Connor, glad you're enjoying the videos :)
Love that you've been adding bloopers and the consistency runs at red at the end are great! Hope you make it full time man, big fan!
That fisherman’s Gyarados actually makes canonical sense. Team Rocket’s weird broadcast was forcing Magikarp to evolve early.
I’m loving these and need to go back through what I’ve watched on my PC to comment.
On the topic of having lower level than they evolve Pokémon: You can catch a legitimate level 10 dragonair in gold/silver/crystal in the route below blackthorn city by fishing with the super rod in the small pool in the mountains next to the berry tree with a 1% chance. In fact if it’s female you can trade it to the girl in blackthorn city for a level 10 Rhydon (G/S) or Dodrio (C). I managed to do it on my virtual console versions pretty quickly and just cloned the dragonair to keep both. Not to mention all the lower level evolutions available in kanto I.e. rock tunnel, etc.
I love watching your videos during work
Excited to watch the video about the original Crow Pokemon!
At 15:01 When koga used double team/baton pass, you only had to use faint attack, that move ignores accuracy checks, just like swift. I also forgot those kind of things when i play xD. Cheers from Costa Rica!
Murkrow is my favorite Pokémon I’ve been waiting for you to get to it
Glad I got to it!!
Murkrow's evolution was fairly commonly used in competitive battles in later generations, but prior to that it was definitely forgotten. That ended up happening to a lot of gen 2, where they gave the Pokemon a new evolution to boost their profile. Excited to see them used in their forgotten gens though, Aipom seems like it will be fun
I'm excited for Aipom! Normal types are really good in gen 2 so I expect it to do well.
Honchkrow got banned from UU in its debut generation because it was pretty damn broken and uncounterable with stuff down there due to its high attacking stats, wide type coverage and high powered moves.
“Feel the pain Whitney, there’s a reason that you cry”
Said so passive aggressively after the years of pain she’s caused players 😂
I find it interesting tgat yanma, gligar, murkrow, sneasel and tangela all got evolutions later on - and all of them are pretty powerful. Incidentally, i also like all of them, despite being pretty picky when it comes to Pokémon.
If you are up for a race in a later gen, it'd be rad to See a face between all their evolved forms.
10:13 I mean he could’ve just gotten that lvl 10 Gyrados while in vacation in Alola and found it during an S.O.S. Battle, geez not everyone is a hacker ( 😂 love your videos!!)
So, my favorite flying type finally gets the spotlight. I am so happy to see him be used. So, thank you.
You're welcome Shiny Misty
I love Yanma, can’t wait for the video. It’s adorable, although you cant deny, it definitely needed Yanmega. Forretress is really cool too.
Ooo Scott throwing sand at Falkner, love it.
2:45 Nightmare actually has competitive use in Gen 2, even on Pokémon that don’t learn sleep moves, Starmie in particular. The Rest and Sleep Talk combo is so ubiquitous and powerful that many opposing Pokémon, the unbreakable and unwallable undisputed best Pokémon in the game Snorlax included, are often able to be hit by Nightmare. It’s not a ton of damage, but in the slower-paced Generation 2 metagame, every bit of reliable chip damage is helpful for forcing opponents into KO range.
RestTalk was also busted because if Sleep Talk proc'd Rest, it would heal you.
Well done, Scott and Murmagpie. I had high hopes seein' that thumbnail.
Also of note, Scott - worth guaging every now and then when and if grinding in the early-game has any long-term payoff. Perhaps the time you skipped grinding earlier may have affected the roadblocks down the line. It's not necessarily the case, but sometimes those extra early levels save a lot more time later, if your vs. Races are any indication
Having rest at all before red was a bad idea it seems. The only time it helped was when you had mud slap though. So for another run with a low def. Pokemon dont even try rest without accuracy or evasion altering moves with it.
I remember catching a Murkrow back in the day. I thought it was cool but when I got a Houndoom and eventually Tyranitar, I even had a Umbreon (I had the official strategy guide by Nintendo about G/S but I didn't understand what I was reading and didn't know Eevee had day/night evolutions). The Yanma video should be good or bad. You're getting consistent at how EVIL the Kaiju known as Venomoth truly is.
Murkrow is my favorite Pokémon, adorable and his shiny is top tier
Scott isn't just on my top 5 fave poketubers. He's on my top 5 fave youtubers overall
Awwww thanks Seann
For future reference, ice type is special, which is strong against most rock types, and it’s super effective against ground type, it might have one shot Rhydon in blue’s gym.
It's strong against most Rock-types from the first two Gens _because_ they're either Ground-type or Aerodactyl. >:3
Finally my favourite pokemon. I've done this run and beat Red and honestly it doesn't disappoint
Dark is strong in gen2, especially being immune to psychic
I subscribed to your channel a few months ago and I am happy to see that the quality of your videos improved a lot! And also your strategies and knowledge about the games are better
I feel like a completely different Pokemon player now... It's staggering just how much I didn't know 6 months ago.
Ohh I have special one..
When I was a child a friend of mine constantly claimed there is a place where you can catch a gyarados at lvl 15 in pokemon yellow
I didn't believe him cause I trained ma Karp from 5 to 20 just to have one big snak.....
well he was right, u can catch a lvl 15 gyarados in fuchsia city in yellow and showed me the place and I couldn't believe my own eyes.
Greetings from Germany! Nice vid man
ooo yey another cool run, im currently doing a solo chikorita line run myself on crystal for fun because of your solo runs
The bloopers are pure gold. Anyone that doesn't watch all the way to the end is missing out. "It's important to deliver all of the pp with swagger." 😂
That moment was probably my favourite part from the recording session :P
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Keep up the excellent work my friend! I look forward to watching every Sunday!
Fun fact: the move rest isn't called rest because the pokemon is resting, it is a portmanteau of "REcover faST".
I love it.
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon many people don't know this, because they never deliver Kenya the Spearow like they promised, so they don't talk to the guy on route 31 that teaches this fun fact.
Scott, I absolutely love your thoughts! Please keep sharing them!
It's worth mentioning there's a Terry Pratchett villainous family of vampires that turn into Magpies. Their logic is that magpies are better than bats, seeing as Magpies can go out during the day as well as night.
Love this series. Seriously in my top five RUclips Channels.
Definitely a good video. The ending was unexpected. I watched this video immediately once I saw it. The only downside with these videos is waiting for a new one to be uploaded.
You are a stronger man than me for not naming your Murkrow Poe.
Also even though he's bad mechically I love Yanma. Dragonflies are so cool.
Analysis for the algorithm:
STAB spamming is nearly always your best option. Early game that was working out fine, but you seemed to struggle against Foretress a little by choosing HP Ground. It shares Scizor's best typing ever (fight me), so hitting it with your strongest neutral would be the best option. Fly in this case would probably work best. I don't think the AI is smart enough in this generation to Protect when you should be coming back down. Against Jasmine's infamous snek, I'd have experimented hitting it with Faint Attack due to your strong special and its weak special with the addition of it being STAB. Steelix has such lopsided defenses that it might have actually worked out for you alright despite being not very effective.
Also #domefossil
Love your videos man. Not sure what you have scheduled/planned but in the spirit of gen 2 let's see a vs. video of Umbreon vs. Espeon. The glass cannon against the best tank in Pokémon. Results may surprise us
I'm not trying to make this a negative comment but I just got out of a 6 year relationship and watching your videos have been a major help and I appreciate it so much
Hey robo603, I'm glad the videos have been helping. I appreciate you commenting!
Awful Koga AI - Using Self-destruct while the foe Pokémon is underground
Big Brain Koga AI - Max Double Team when Ariados can't do much, and then baton pass to forretress, set up spikes then spam swift until forretress get into KO range and then explode and KO the foe's Pokémon.
No doubt he got promoted to Elite 4 member
Sometimes you just need to blow up
Before i even start watching. I opened the youtube and forgot it was Sunday. Just seeing the video put a huge smile on my face! Super excited for murkrow! Btw you got your stantler evolution. Please address that 😂😂😂 i was so stoked seeing that. You manifested it into reality man!
Yeah this video was already recorded when the evolution was announced! I’ll have to talk about it sometime soon!
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon yeah, that shitty pipe laying problem. Sounds rough when it's not PP related 😂😂😂 i was excited to share. I haven't checked the patreon since it was announced to see either. I'm slacking boss 😂😂😂
Murkrow is one of those Gen 2 Pokemon that I like the voice of from the anime next to Apiom.
murkrow and honchkrow is my favourite pokemon :D badass, underrated pokemon!
0:19: Ah yes, the very forgotten, and above all very gen 2, Fighting-Bug type :).
"Feel the pain Whitney there's a reason you cry" damn bro lol
Great video, always watch your poke challenges at Sunday before another week of work
Also doesn't make sense that Dark type moves were special, as most Dark type moves at the time were things like biting, grabbing, striking, all things that one would consider physical.
I like that you showed your fried brain cells before Whitney, it shows that you're still human like the rest of us and is generally fun to watch. Hopefully your girlfriend gave you a hug to console you
I think the reason there are so many forgotten/underrepresented pokemon from gen II is because they decided to make most of the new pokemon either incredibly rare or unavailable until Kanto. How were we supposed to be able to use them in a normal playthrough, especially as kids? Haha
Tyranitar is *THEE WORST* example of this. You are not able to get a Latvitar until you get to *Mt. Silver.* The literal *END OF THE GAME.* ...After you beat both Johto *AND* Kanto and get all of the 16 badges! 💀💀💀💀