I have a rumour that I’ve heard of: When Rusty Wallace was going to retire at the end of 2005, Kurt Busch was tapped in to replace him in the blue duce. But a rumour went around that Kurt could sign for Chip Ganissi Racing’s 40 car, and that the 2 car would have gone to Travis Kvapil. Could you imagine that!
I had never heard Kvapil to the 2 car, but that would have been wild in my mind! I would have loved to see the 2 car go to Jamie McMurray though and apparently that could’ve happened. I have a whole video on that
Oh god as a kurt busch fan that would of been a disaster especially of what we know how he acted wouldn't of gone down well and travis in his alone season in the 77 car 33rd in points was bad enough imagine that in the #2
I actually heard that one recently and it would’ve been an interesting fit I think. Not to mention the fact that there are some jokes you can make about the fact that he would’ve been coming back with Jack Daniel’s after being sponsored by Miller all of those years. “I need something stronger for this…”
I remember the Evernham Kyle Busch rumor. I also remember Ray being publicly disappointed that KB didn't sign with the team. Almost like they went all in on Kyle to save the team, probably to the detriment of its long term plans
I actually hadn’t remembered that rumor, but I can see why they wanted him. I wonder how much they threw into trying to get him and what Busch saw/knew because man did they take a nose dive after that
@@RuffMotorsports93 I'm not saying it's the reason, because it all traces back to the Erin Crocker/Mayfield scandal. But Kyle could have been the saving grace for a team on the verge of loosing sponsors. Kasey was really good but a build up frustration was beginning with that stuff.
Oh for sure that scandal was the big factor. Actually, if you haven’t listened to Jeremy Mayfield tell the story of that on Dale Jr’s show it is pretty wild. Can’t remember if he said it was a Christmas party or a New Year’s party but he said something about it coming out at a company party
Oh it was great. And by the end of it, I honestly didn’t even know what to think of the whole Jeremy Mayfield situation anymore, I still am not really sure what I think about it.
Jayski in the 2000s is something that people just had to be there for 1 board where every leak/rumor/announcement all congregated along with pictures of race cars throughout the decade, the team chart, and much more I remember specially before Tony Stewart announced he was creating SHR there were numerous rumors of where he would go
Oh yeah, and those rumors were fun to go back and read through too. Saw one about him going to the 5 car that I had forgotten about. No secret he wanted to go back to Chevy after JGR switched to Toyota. Which was one of the reasons why I was so surprised when SHR switched to Ford
@@signalboost9636 thank you! I’m really glad people are enjoying this video, I had a lot of fun putting it together, I’ve already started finding more weird rumors for a second video, there’s a lot to choose from!
@@JasonRamme-g9w yeah, I think he even acknowledged that he and everyone else in the garage were interested in the 5 car when they announced Mears was out
I don't recall the Sebastian Bourdais rumor, but I do know of a similar rumor: With no full-time ride in 2011, there was a rumor that Dan Wheldon would give the Truck Series a try with Kyle Busch Motorsports. Being a fan of both Dan Wheldon & Johnny Benson _(Who mentored the KBM drivers of that time),_ that means there's an alternate universe where Benson mentored Wheldon in the Truck Series.
I was literally just about to make a channel dedicated to reading through the Jayski's archives and discussing the old rumors... It looks like you beat me to it lol. Good video
Haha sorry, but thank you for the compliment. Video two is in the works. You should make a channel though, this has been a fun hobby over the last few years.
great video man silly season and the what ifs of nascar is one off my favorite things about the sport. one of my personal favorites is what if Greg Biffle went to the 20 car i think in 2010, anyway ive been enjoying your vidoes and id personaly like to see some more what if story's in the future i think there cool.
Thank you! I’ve actually had a Greg Biffle to the 20 car video in mind for a while but just haven’t actually done it yet for whatever reason. I even crunched all of the numbers to find out how much better off he would have been at JGR, I really do need to finally sit down and make it I guess!
He did, it was a really interesting interview. I think her would’ve certainly been better at JGR than Logano was, but I also don’t think we ever would’ve gotten to see Kenseth at JGR
Yeah, that could have been the a similar feeling really, but honestly, I think a Knaus-Toyota deal would’ve ended better than the Evernham deal did. Just a gut feeling
@@PaperBanjo64 my gut tells me they still would have. Red Bull was still around for a while after Gibbs went to Toyota. I think that Toyota really needed an established, winning team and the closest they have to that in their first year was Bill Davis Racing, which hadn’t had much success at all since 2002.
@@PaperBanjo64 I think so too because Gibbs needs the manufacturer support that would be available at Toyota moreso than anywhere else at the time. They don't have the connection to the auto business that Hendrick has so they would've been second or third rung on the Chevy ladder
On the Penske Toyota rumor… Penske had been a team that was linked with Toyota before Toyota officially announced the move to NASCAR, and at the time Penske was running Toyota engines in IndyCar.
I hadn’t remembered that. Penske would’ve been a prized target for sure. I’d argue they were more of a B tier team at the time, but that would’ve been a lot better than what Toyota had coming out of the gate. I think it is interesting to think about Penske having the trajectory that Gibbs eventually had.
Glad you enjoyed! Thank you for leaving a comment. I’ve actually already started gathering some more weird rumors to make another video. Hope to make more soon!
As a Harvick fan, I remember hearing about the Red Bull rumors. I think it was a better idea to stay his path, but I’d wonder if Red Bull would’ve survived if a driver like Harvick was there
Speaking of Harvick, I remember there was a possibility of going to the 5 car at Hendrick to replace the underperforming Kasey Kahne after SHR announced they were switching to Ford for '17 but it never materialised and Harvick stayed put.
@@alexpeak16 I remember that and it seemed like everyone just couldn’t stand the thought of Harvick in a Ford. I think most of us got used to the idea though haha
Waltrip-Penske Racing: 2:Kurt Busch 12:Ryan Newman 44:Dale Jarrett 55:Michael Waltrip JGR would've switched to Ford instead,meaning Penske would've been a Toyota team.
Honestly, as a Gibbs fan and a guy who drives a Toyota, the idea of seeing Gibbs in anything other than a Toyota makes my head spin. But that Penske-Waltrip lineup would be solid for a year or two until Jarrett and Waltrip retired and then they could grow. Not sure if Newman would’ve still left, but I think Kurt was going to be the Kurt he was at the time. Hard to find a driver with a bigger contrast between his younger days and older days than Kurt haha
That would have been a strange moment if you put Ryan Newman and Dale Jarrett because they had a history when newman made Jarrett spun and Jarrett got his payback on Newman but this time several cars were involved that was bristol I forgot what year it was I think it was the 2005 season
Rusty Wallace and Robby Gordon to DEI Kyle Busch to SHR Kyle Larson to SHR (The biggest rumor in the 2020s so far) Dale Earnhardt Jr to RCR Jeff Gordon to Evernham Dale Earnhardt to Robert Yates Casey Mears to Penske Tony Stewart to Headrick Kasey Kahne to SHR Matt Kenseth to Headrick Mark Martin to Robert Yates
I also recall on This Week In NASCAR Mikey or Schrader mentioned the spring weekend at Talladega would become Viagra weekend with the Busch race being titled “The Viagra Mini-Pack 250” and the cup race would be The Viagra 500. Obviously this never happened but can you imagine
I do remember the rumors of where Kyle busch was gonna go I actually knew it was gonna be Gibbs just because of the success with Stewart and Hamlin seeing him at Ginn or Ganassi would have been weird
If Kyle Busch goes to Evernham,I could see him rebuilding that team. He probably gets them a championship in 2015 and 2019. Evernham could've gotten Tyler Reedrick and Noah Gragson. Who would've gotten the 18 car? For me,it's Aric Almirola. I could've saw him win 19 races. But sadly,that happened.
So I always chalked that up (with absolutely no proof, but it’s what I like to tell myself) that that number was the consolation Stewart got from Haas. If memory serves, Stewart thought they were struggling with 3 cars and was against the idea of adding a fourth. Then while he’s recovering from a broken leg, Haas goes out and signs Busch for a fourth car. Haas seemed to be in love with 00, but I imagine he gave the number yo Stewart saying “fine, I know you didn’t want this, but I’ll at least let you match all of the numbers together”. Again, no proof or evidence that that is really the reason for the number, but I like to imagine it happening that way
I don't think David Reutiman would have been the odd man out. He was a promising prospect. I think he stays on with Jarrett opting to go part time and sharing the 44 with other potential prospects while Waltrip steps back. Clint Bowyer might still go to Penske-Waltrip Motorsports but truex probably doesn't. But there is one more HUGE change that might not happen. Gibbs might not have gone to Toyota, which means Tony Stewart stays. SHR never forms so who knows if Harvick leaves RCR or even wins a championship.
Yeah, the Penske-Waltrip merger changes A LOT I think. No SHR, no Gibbs with Toyota. I do agree with you that Reuitmann was a solid prospect, but I think the reason why he is the odd man out (at least temporarily, maybe they send him to the Xfinity Series), is because Dale Jarrett had the champion’s provisional, which Toyota really wanted at the time
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I have a rumour that I’ve heard of:
When Rusty Wallace was going to retire at the end of 2005, Kurt Busch was tapped in to replace him in the blue duce. But a rumour went around that Kurt could sign for Chip Ganissi Racing’s 40 car, and that the 2 car would have gone to Travis Kvapil. Could you imagine that!
I had never heard Kvapil to the 2 car, but that would have been wild in my mind! I would have loved to see the 2 car go to Jamie McMurray though and apparently that could’ve happened. I have a whole video on that
Oh god as a kurt busch fan that would of been a disaster especially of what we know how he acted wouldn't of gone down well and travis in his alone season in the 77 car 33rd in points was bad enough imagine that in the #2
Rusty said he almost came back after that to drive the 07 for RCR....he didn't make up his mind in time and they signed Bowyer
I actually heard that one recently and it would’ve been an interesting fit I think. Not to mention the fact that there are some jokes you can make about the fact that he would’ve been coming back with Jack Daniel’s after being sponsored by Miller all of those years. “I need something stronger for this…”
@@pok30306Rusty in the Jack car on Dale's old team would've been cool
I remember the Evernham Kyle Busch rumor. I also remember Ray being publicly disappointed that KB didn't sign with the team. Almost like they went all in on Kyle to save the team, probably to the detriment of its long term plans
I actually hadn’t remembered that rumor, but I can see why they wanted him. I wonder how much they threw into trying to get him and what Busch saw/knew because man did they take a nose dive after that
@@RuffMotorsports93 I'm not saying it's the reason, because it all traces back to the Erin Crocker/Mayfield scandal. But Kyle could have been the saving grace for a team on the verge of loosing sponsors. Kasey was really good but a build up frustration was beginning with that stuff.
Oh for sure that scandal was the big factor. Actually, if you haven’t listened to Jeremy Mayfield tell the story of that on Dale Jr’s show it is pretty wild. Can’t remember if he said it was a Christmas party or a New Year’s party but he said something about it coming out at a company party
@@RuffMotorsports93 best podcast Dale has had so far lol
Oh it was great. And by the end of it, I honestly didn’t even know what to think of the whole Jeremy Mayfield situation anymore, I still am not really sure what I think about it.
Jayski in the 2000s is something that people just had to be there for
1 board where every leak/rumor/announcement all congregated along with pictures of race cars throughout the decade, the team chart, and much more
I remember specially before Tony Stewart announced he was creating SHR there were numerous rumors of where he would go
Oh yeah, and those rumors were fun to go back and read through too. Saw one about him going to the 5 car that I had forgotten about. No secret he wanted to go back to Chevy after JGR switched to Toyota. Which was one of the reasons why I was so surprised when SHR switched to Ford
@@RuffMotorsports93 cant wait for part 2 man, subbed 👍
@@signalboost9636 thank you! I’m really glad people are enjoying this video, I had a lot of fun putting it together, I’ve already started finding more weird rumors for a second video, there’s a lot to choose from!
I think there were rumors of him going to Hendrick
@@JasonRamme-g9w yeah, I think he even acknowledged that he and everyone else in the garage were interested in the 5 car when they announced Mears was out
I don't recall the Sebastian Bourdais rumor, but I do know of a similar rumor:
With no full-time ride in 2011, there was a rumor that Dan Wheldon would give the Truck Series a try with Kyle Busch Motorsports.
Being a fan of both Dan Wheldon & Johnny Benson _(Who mentored the KBM drivers of that time),_ that means there's an alternate universe where Benson mentored Wheldon in the Truck Series.
I did see some stuff on the Dan Wheldon rumor and couldn’t help but think “we wouldn’t have had the tragic end”
I was literally just about to make a channel dedicated to reading through the Jayski's archives and discussing the old rumors... It looks like you beat me to it lol. Good video
Haha sorry, but thank you for the compliment. Video two is in the works. You should make a channel though, this has been a fun hobby over the last few years.
great video man silly season and the what ifs of nascar is one off my favorite things about the sport. one of my personal favorites is what if Greg Biffle went to the 20 car i think in 2010, anyway ive been enjoying your vidoes and id personaly like to see some more what if story's in the future i think there cool.
Thank you! I’ve actually had a Greg Biffle to the 20 car video in mind for a while but just haven’t actually done it yet for whatever reason. I even crunched all of the numbers to find out how much better off he would have been at JGR, I really do need to finally sit down and make it I guess!
Biffle talked about that with Dale Jr I think
He did, it was a really interesting interview. I think her would’ve certainly been better at JGR than Logano was, but I also don’t think we ever would’ve gotten to see Kenseth at JGR
@@RuffMotorsports93 and Joey probably would have never gone to Penske because he would have had time to develop at Gibbs.
Exactly, I think his Gibbs days would’ve been WAY different if they had let him stay in the Xfinity Series for a couple of years
Wow, chad knaus to red bull-toyota could've been like evernham to dodge.
Yeah, that could have been the a similar feeling really, but honestly, I think a Knaus-Toyota deal would’ve ended better than the Evernham deal did. Just a gut feeling
Would Toyota still pull Gibbs from Chevy?
@@PaperBanjo64 my gut tells me they still would have. Red Bull was still around for a while after Gibbs went to Toyota. I think that Toyota really needed an established, winning team and the closest they have to that in their first year was Bill Davis Racing, which hadn’t had much success at all since 2002.
@@PaperBanjo64 I think so too because Gibbs needs the manufacturer support that would be available at Toyota moreso than anywhere else at the time. They don't have the connection to the auto business that Hendrick has so they would've been second or third rung on the Chevy ladder
On the Penske Toyota rumor… Penske had been a team that was linked with Toyota before Toyota officially announced the move to NASCAR, and at the time Penske was running Toyota engines in IndyCar.
I hadn’t remembered that. Penske would’ve been a prized target for sure. I’d argue they were more of a B tier team at the time, but that would’ve been a lot better than what Toyota had coming out of the gate. I think it is interesting to think about Penske having the trajectory that Gibbs eventually had.
I enjoyed this video. I would love to see more of these videos.
Glad you enjoyed! Thank you for leaving a comment. I’ve actually already started gathering some more weird rumors to make another video. Hope to make more soon!
i never understood why jarrett left yates 20 million makes sense
As a Harvick fan, I remember hearing about the Red Bull rumors. I think it was a better idea to stay his path, but I’d wonder if Red Bull would’ve survived if a driver like Harvick was there
I thought the same thing. But I wonder if Harvick would’ve moved on eventually whether they became great or not
Speaking of Harvick, I remember there was a possibility of going to the 5 car at Hendrick to replace the underperforming Kasey Kahne after SHR announced they were switching to Ford for '17 but it never materialised and Harvick stayed put.
@@alexpeak16 I remember that and it seemed like everyone just couldn’t stand the thought of Harvick in a Ford. I think most of us got used to the idea though haha
Waltrip-Penske Racing:
2:Kurt Busch
12:Ryan Newman
44:Dale Jarrett
55:Michael Waltrip
JGR would've switched to Ford instead,meaning Penske would've been a Toyota team.
Honestly, as a Gibbs fan and a guy who drives a Toyota, the idea of seeing Gibbs in anything other than a Toyota makes my head spin. But that Penske-Waltrip lineup would be solid for a year or two until Jarrett and Waltrip retired and then they could grow. Not sure if Newman would’ve still left, but I think Kurt was going to be the Kurt he was at the time. Hard to find a driver with a bigger contrast between his younger days and older days than Kurt haha
That would have been a strange moment if you put Ryan Newman and Dale Jarrett because they had a history when newman made Jarrett spun and Jarrett got his payback on Newman but this time several cars were involved that was bristol I forgot what year it was I think it was the 2005 season
I had actually forgotten about that
Rusty Wallace and Robby Gordon to DEI
Kyle Busch to SHR
Kyle Larson to SHR (The biggest rumor in the 2020s so far)
Dale Earnhardt Jr to RCR
Jeff Gordon to Evernham
Dale Earnhardt to Robert Yates
Casey Mears to Penske
Tony Stewart to Headrick
Kasey Kahne to SHR
Matt Kenseth to Headrick
Mark Martin to Robert Yates
I genuinely wonder if SHR could have been saved by either Busch or Larson
I also recall on This Week In NASCAR Mikey or Schrader mentioned the spring weekend at Talladega would become Viagra weekend with the Busch race being titled “The Viagra Mini-Pack 250” and the cup race would be The Viagra 500. Obviously this never happened but can you imagine
@@BCanterbury42 oh I can only imagine the memes if that happened today. They would be hilarious!
I remember reading some of these in Jayski back in the day I had forgotten about. PLEASE make more of these videos in the future
Second video is currently in the works! Hoping to have it out soon!
83 because of the 8.3 oz cans. I think Dodge would of lasted alot longer if they went with gibs.
Right you are! I was starting to think. No one was going to take a guess!
If Harvick went to Red Bull,I could see him winning only 36 races. He probably never gets his championship.
2014 would've been Gordon instead.
0:41 Aw Yes Heaven Harvick
It's Kevin Harvick
@@JasonRamme-g9w I know it’s just the way he pronounced it sounding like Heaven instead of Kevin 🤣
I do remember the rumors of where Kyle busch was gonna go I actually knew it was gonna be Gibbs just because of the success with Stewart and Hamlin seeing him at Ginn or Ganassi would have been weird
Yes I enjoyed it you may also try a video of the weird silly season's of the past
If Kyle Busch goes to Evernham,I could see him rebuilding that team. He probably gets them a championship in 2015 and 2019. Evernham could've gotten Tyler Reedrick and Noah Gragson. Who would've gotten the 18 car? For me,it's Aric Almirola. I could've saw him win 19 races. But sadly,that happened.
I remember Kurt was supposed to go to the 00 instead of the 41
So I always chalked that up (with absolutely no proof, but it’s what I like to tell myself) that that number was the consolation Stewart got from Haas. If memory serves, Stewart thought they were struggling with 3 cars and was against the idea of adding a fourth. Then while he’s recovering from a broken leg, Haas goes out and signs Busch for a fourth car. Haas seemed to be in love with 00, but I imagine he gave the number yo Stewart saying “fine, I know you didn’t want this, but I’ll at least let you match all of the numbers together”. Again, no proof or evidence that that is really the reason for the number, but I like to imagine it happening that way
Can you do what if Tony Stewart went to Headrick?
I can add that one to the list! I’ve got video number two for the series research and written and ready to be put together! More to come soon!
A Red Bull #97 would be my dream..
Well, looks like there may be some possibility that at some point you could get a Red Bull 88!
SVG would've won another race at the Chicago street course with Red Bull as a sponsor.
I’ve got a feeling he’ll get another one next year. My question is do you see SVG getting multiple wins next year? I think he’s got a good shot
@@RuffMotorsports93 Absolutely the Giz can get multiple wins next season. No doubt about it.
@@JasonRamme-g9w what do you mean?
Ironically Kyle Busch would eventually end up at childress
I don't think David Reutiman would have been the odd man out. He was a promising prospect. I think he stays on with Jarrett opting to go part time and sharing the 44 with other potential prospects while Waltrip steps back.
Clint Bowyer might still go to Penske-Waltrip Motorsports but truex probably doesn't.
But there is one more HUGE change that might not happen. Gibbs might not have gone to Toyota, which means Tony Stewart stays. SHR never forms so who knows if Harvick leaves RCR or even wins a championship.
Yeah, the Penske-Waltrip merger changes A LOT I think. No SHR, no Gibbs with Toyota.
I do agree with you that Reuitmann was a solid prospect, but I think the reason why he is the odd man out (at least temporarily, maybe they send him to the Xfinity Series), is because Dale Jarrett had the champion’s provisional, which Toyota really wanted at the time
Honestly, if I had the chance to go to formula one or nascar I would probably go to a formula one because more exposure worldwide
Stay tuned for an old NASCAR/F1 rumor in part two of this series. Hoping to have the video out on Friday.
Tony Stewart might have stayed at Gibbs with Dodge especially since he ran Dodge sprint cars.
Please do more
Video number 2 is in the works!
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Um, no.
Yes