OMD - I literally wanted to include that bit - that was craaazy!!! I couldn't believe it when I was watching the footage. James Hunt being Hunt even in the junior formulae. Gonna pin your comment mate so everyone see it 🙌🏼
Vietnamese here, ill give you update on the track, basically the government have taken down everything, to my knowledge there is no racing there anymore, all that is left is a ghost grand stand at the finish line and a ghost pit lane
@@AlanFormula12022 The layout's a bit, small, narrow, repetitive curves (roundabouts, chicanes or 90º)... Well, city circuits, you know, running around an harbour... Formula 1 is not Formula E, particularly modern Formula 1 where the cars are as big as pickup trucks... And Monaco only stands for its historical meaning.
And Valencia Street Circuit had bringed a iconic F1 Race in its last year, that amazing Race in 2012, the Fernando Alonso masterclass, a podium with 10 Championships (Alonso, Raikkonen and Michael Schumacher), Hamilton vs Maldonado...
@@szybkiwojtas7895 on sims it's enjoyable, trashing the car around those medium speed corners and nail them perfectly is kinda fun. The problem is that when racing in reality (in any class of cars) the construction of the corners, their sequence and the tightness of some sections basically make for a single lane around the middle part of the track, and every attempt of attacking the car in front makes you waste a lot of time and momentum. Add to it the huge dimensions of the F1 cars of this era and the fact that the previous generation was horrible in dirty air and the racing was a snoozefest. Could have been rather interesting with the cars of today about handling in dirty air, but the sheer size of the cars could have remained a very limiting factor...
@@Deicture No it couldn't. It's not even close to F1 "standard". Don't forget you need to 20 miles of concrete run-off these days so that all the mistakes are forgotten and they just carry on...
At the French Grand Prix of 1972 those volcanic rocks littering the track affected the race. First, Helmut Marko (the director of Red Bull today) had one of them fly into his face which blinded him in one eye and then later on Chris Amon, who was leading the race by some distance, got a puncture after running over a rock and ended up third....costing him a well deserved maiden win.
Valencia was abysmal as a racing track, but it had the great 2012 race. Again showing that a poor track can also sometimes produce something special, the conditions just have to be right. Oh, and Crystal Palace and Reims are/were great in Grand Prix Legends. The former for F2 or 65 mod stuff, and the latter for the original 67 cars with slipstreaming and speeds up to 330 kph.
I would have loved to see that race happen in Vietnam. And i would love to see a race happen again in South Africa. But the one i really miss the most of the old Hockenheim.
I went to Valencia in 2008. When we got to our numbered grandstand, lots of fans couldn't find their seats. They just weren't there. Apparently when the grandstand was erected and after the seats were bolted into place and numbered, someone realised there wasn't a gangway in the middle. They removed a swathe of seats but didn't re-number the remaining ones. The unlucky fans were told that the stewards knew about this and directed them to another grandstand where they would find seats. After about half-an-hour they all trooped back as there were no other seats so they sat on the steps where their seats would have been. Understandably the stewards weren't happy for health & safety reasons but the fans stayed put and we had to negotiate our way round them. Later, I walked miles to the merchandise area but was told only those fans with seats opposite the pits had access. As you can imagine the stall holders were furious. It was sorted by race day but by then I CBA to go back. I never went again.
Valencia is one of my favorite tracks, it is very fun to drive on the sims and the nostalgia aspect from the early 2010s and late 2000s really adds to it. Also being abandoned and “lost” sort of, just really adds to the specialty of it.
Ahh thanks bro. Appreciate the support. I’m really trying to find a way to make this take off. The best way is just for everyone to tell a friend about the channel. Got big plans, but ultimately it’s about creating the right community first and foremost. Let’s see how the next 12 months goes 🙌🏼
Bring back these 4 circuits please.. *Kyalami* (genuinely impressed with layout and long run into T1, African race is needed), *Istanbul* (instead of Baku seeing how many yrs left on its contract, Turkey deserves a track more than Azerbaijan street circuit), *Mugello* (instead of Imola where middle part of track is SOOO much better, also long straights and tire degradation is medium-high unlike Imola's 1 stop race) and *GERMANY* (any one, Hockenheim is great if you can widen the track at stadium section and T1 and hairpin area since cars are wider nowadays, Nurburgring can easily be widen in sector 3 chicane and T1 needs the older layout, make it 77 laps with 1:05 laptimes, tire wear is often high). I would remove (based on contract lengths otherwise Miami being the worst U.S. track can go), Imola, Baku, Mexico. 25 race season until Miami gets the sack. The sport is able to sell out venues around the world and the popularity has grown a lot in the last six years, mostly in North America. *I love Sepang* but its very unlikely to return for financial reasons despite offering long straights, wide track, long run into T1 and gravel traps. I visited the track in May 2024, had a tour of the back straight and final turn + podium, control room etc. Very enjoyable tour and friendly, warm-hearted people as is often the case in Malaysia.
Therefore u got the AVUS Track in it, i love the Video. It was a racetrack where i was Till the end and Till the end there was no F1 Race, only DTM. And the Curve which was 43 degress was later not anymore and i stand there with my father. It was a legendary track. Great Video 👍
@@jakemorganGP I believe It was Johnny Herbet who almost had a foot amputated after a crash at Brands Hatch in a F3000 race - but Martin Brundle did break both ankles at Dallas during practice. And one reason why F1 never went back to Dallas was due to one of the race race organisers absconding with the cash box.
Some currently used tracks had crazy layouts back in the day. The Monza oval is absolutely insane. Steep banking, extremely bumpy surface. It's a death trap. Old Spa also was nuts.
If you're planning another video featuring abandoned tracks, you can include the Buddh International circuit in India that hosted the Indian GP in 2012 and 13, and its also the track where we got the iconic pic of Vettel bowing down to his RedBull after winning the GP
One interesting fact with Circuit de Charade is that Helmut Marko's racing career ended on that fateful day in the 1972 season when a piece of volcanic rock thrown by Ronnie Peterson's car struck his helmet visor, pierced it, and left him permanently blind in his left eye. Marko had the misfortune of a blue shell striking him, and ended his racing career, never able to share the track with his fellow Terminator Niki Lauda.
Good list and a good video. You definitely have to do more circuits/track videos. If you are up to it you should make your own in Assetto Corsa. I am more of a new-track type of person. I want to see new ones and then they return old ones per se. De Charade is cool though. Pretty crazy how they had almost zero safety back then.
I wouldn't mind seeing F1 return too Watkins Glenn's international layout, its fast and flowing on the back end with lots of technical sections on the front end.
Road America - I'd love to see their little F1 faces crying the moment they go off and realise they actually have to pay a price for it. ruclips.net/video/M7yc9AoR-7k/видео.html
About Sochi being a Bottas circuit, he did get his first win there in 2017, maybe should've won the year after when he lost out to team orders, but that 2020 race you showed was the one that was pretty much gift-wrapped for him when Hamilton compromised his own race before it even started in a classic "not knowing the rules" moment. It was not the hardest-fought victory, and I remember him getting mocked a little bit for celebrating like it was an Australia 2019-type performance, but I guess he was owed one after what happened in 2018.
That's fair - in a straight fight, I think Bottas would have had Hamilton in 2020 (possibly?) but team orders to hold position probably would have applied and Bottas may never have won in that scenario. But it was definitely a Bottas track iygwim
@@jakemorganGP Looking at the Wikipedia page for that race, I had forgotten that Verstappen split the two Mercedes in qualifying, so I guess that was one hurdle Bottas had to clear during the race. I'll have to go back and watch to see just how easy it was for him in that Mercedes compared to what it's like trying to get past Verstappen in today's F1. **cough** Lando **cough**
As a vietnamese fan i really want to have GP in VN so much, the circuit rn actually being used for public, u pay 10 bucks to get in the track and travel around bout 2/3 of the track. Honestly the corruption was the guy who make F1 to VietNam was taken the money make the circuit and keep it for his own 😂. The track layout was really interesting but i think the time VietNam hold a GP is long haha
Dutch privateer Carel Godin de Beaufort actually went over the top of the AVUS banking during the Grand Prix of Berlin sportscar race on August 1st, 1959 as part of the support events of the German GP that was held there the next day. He tumbled down and somehow kept his Porsche in good enough condition to drive, rejoining the track at the end of the corner before being disqualified because the official felt his car was a bit too damaged from the drop. However, in the very same race at the very same spot Jean Behra lost his life.
Personally, I would put Valencia A tier. Yes, like you said, the racing wasn't very good, 2012 race aside, but it did have genuinely imaginative and nice touches. The reusing of the Americas Cup facilities to form the paddock and a former Fish Market building being used as the pit building and podium location, plus the fact that near the swing Bridge, it had miles and miles of beautiful sandy beaches
Interesting to have Indianapolis in the thumbnail but not in the list? And it should come back, as the grounds for the track have been updated and it's central US location and of course, racing history, make it an ideal spot for the sport. The only reason I imagine it hasn't returned is that Roger Penske owns both the track and IndyCar series, and probably doesn't want competition at the track for now.
Ahh haha. Good point. I’m actually running a thumbnail test right now lol. That was an older thumbnail from the proof-of-concept stage of this video project but I’m just testing out different things. If you check the community tab of my channel you can see the actual thumbnail that I am using 😁. But I would love for F1 to race at Indy again 😍😍
I wouldn't mind if the calendar would only consist of Melbourne, Monza, Monaco, Spa, Silverstone, Old hockenheim, Old nurburgring, Magny Cours, Brazil and Suzuka.
You could never have a race at the old 14 mile Nurburgring. Lauda and other drivers didn’t want to race there in ‘76 because there weren’t enough marshals to properly manage it. It’s just really hard to run a GP on a circuit of that length, especially when most of the spectators out in the country got in for free.
Part two would def be worth doing, and if you did I'd nominate Aintree for inclusion. Not many places that have served dual purpose as both horse and car racing tracks.
So you guys really enjoyed this (which is awesome, thank you!) Like this comment if you want to see a part 2... And reply with your nominated tracks for it... 😁
Behra went over the banking, was thrown out of the car (because drivers didn’t wear seatbelts back then) and hit a flagpole head first, destroying his paper-mache crash hat and causing instantly fatal head injuries. And he had just been fired from Ferrari because he punched the team manager Tavoni in the face during an argument in a restaurant.
Hockenheim, Malaysia and Sochi. I loved all of them. I wish we could just pick up the Sochi track and move it to another country. I started watching F1 when I was a young kid back in seb domination years so those tracks are nostalgic for me
Reims, full straight, little turn, fast car and no very hard turn Bad track Avus If you Tyre, wheel, hand, anything fail, you die, responsible for a lot of death people = S tier
I actually went to the valencia streat circuit half of it was a apart of the road (main strait and pits) and other half purpose built which was faded and had a bunch of litter on it
@@jakemorganGP well the pits are now like a bike path and the main straight is a road so there was a few people but the purpose build part was completely deserted. But there was considerably less people in that part of the city which the track was located. Its quite a surreal feeling walking around an abandoned F1 track however it was extremely hot.
@@jakemorganGP the part which was built fot the GP is completely deserted. When i was there 2022 i drove on the abandoned part with a bike. Was super fun.
I'm from Valencia and the only thing the circuit did was wasting public money. But hey, my friends and I used to grab our bikes, get in after it was abandoned and race there, so not that bad
I enjoyed your video, and your comments on the circuits. I'd love to see the Charade circuit return. As to Dallas, I lived there and did not even try to go there in July. Whereas I used to go halfway across the continent to Mosport for the grand prix races there. (Sadly, I DID attend Caesar's Palace in its first year, but in my defense I had press passes for that one. Hot as it was, it was October and no where near the debacle Dallas was.)
For the pronunciation of Reims-Gueux you can just say "rains (like in Romain [Grosjean] but without the "main" and with the "s" at the end) ge (like in haagen-daas... but without the "haa" "n-daas")
God i wish the Buddh Circuit wasn't created in India. Such a good track wasted over some mismanagement and one of the most dirtiest places in the world.
I'm new to F1 ans I wonder how dot f1 tracks work? Are they specifically build for f1 or are they just for normal racing like nurburgring and then f1 starts using it one day. And does fia rent the tracks and who gets the ticket money? And what does a track need to be able to be used for f1 or are there no specific rules?
I am surprised Bremgarten wasn't in there another fact it was originally planned for Avus to have 2 banked corners but thanks to WW2 it was never finished
10:09 wtf are you serious rn I’m gonna find you 😂, nah seriously Reims gueux was one off the coolest and beautiful race track back in the days the fast corners of the track make it special and now the remaining part of the track are renovated by an association of fan and if you visit the track one day you can understand why it’s special like the atmosphere is unbelievable one of my favorite race track
@4:56. If you just let the clip play a little longer you’d see James Hunt punching Dave Morgan to the ground after the last corner shunt
OMD - I literally wanted to include that bit - that was craaazy!!! I couldn't believe it when I was watching the footage. James Hunt being Hunt even in the junior formulae. Gonna pin your comment mate so everyone see it 🙌🏼
Vietnamese here, ill give you update on the track, basically the government have taken down everything, to my knowledge there is no racing there anymore, all that is left is a ghost grand stand at the finish line and a ghost pit lane
Hong Kong City Circuit should be added into F1 calendar.
That’s very sad. The layout wasn’t very good imo but I think a reworked shorter layout that went around the nearby stadium would have been great
@@AlanFormula12022 The layout's a bit, small, narrow, repetitive curves (roundabouts, chicanes or 90º)... Well, city circuits, you know, running around an harbour... Formula 1 is not Formula E, particularly modern Formula 1 where the cars are as big as pickup trucks... And Monaco only stands for its historical meaning.
I want Istanbul, Malaysia and Hockenheim back!!😭😭😭
Same dude 😭
Sad Hanoi noises
@Soccerunder60 😓
The *old* Hockenheim is what I’d like (would certainly take some doing though! 😅)
And Istanbul!
As a Bottas suporter since his Williams days I miss Sochi, dude channeled his inner Hakkinen there.
Bro - Williams Bottas was the GOAT - Him and Massa silverstone 2014 (i think) - top tier driving
I’m kind of disappointed Sochi will not come back. My only complain with the track was the lack of elevation change made the course a little boring
Fun fact?: Helmut Marko lost his eye in charade after a rock went through his visor into his eye.
😯😯
Actually it was a spring from when car in front of him😊
@@ryangaming321 you're confusing Marko with Massa
@@andreysab3432 and the fact one happened in France and the other happened in Hungary
That's an interesting fact, but pretty much the opposite of fun.
AVUS and that epic "Wall of Death" as it was called back in the day.
AVUS is like Daytona plus SPECIAL STAGE ROUTE 7.
I live a 10 minute walk away from Avus
Wish we could get Malaysia , Istanbul, Kyalami , Nurburgring GP layout , Fuji and Hockenheim back
Istanbul ok
The rest nope
@@Ariespradana13mate sepang fuji hockenheim and especially kyalami are incredible i want kyalami back so bad
@@Ariespradana13 Fuji and Hockenheim were damn fine
Don't see the fuss about Istanbul. The track wasn't that good and Turkey doesn't really care about F1 and F1 doesn't need them.
@@Ariespradana13 Istanbul? F8ing crap.
The old Hockenhiem was a proper circuit.
Ranking a track with Zero on track overtakes a C is an insane take. That should be banished to an F- tier
C was my bottom tier 😅
But I agree 😂
And Valencia Street Circuit had bringed a iconic F1 Race in its last year, that amazing Race in 2012, the Fernando Alonso masterclass, a podium with 10 Championships (Alonso, Raikkonen and Michael Schumacher), Hamilton vs Maldonado...
Because of 2012
Fun fact: Russian GP was supposed to be moved from Sochi to Igora Drive in St. Petersburg in 2023 but due to the obvious reasons that didn't happen.
this saddens me, could have been a great race. I hate politics....
@@donovanyoung1220 Also unpopular opinion: I love Sochi Autodrom. This is a good track. I enjoy driving on it in my modded Assetto Corsa.
@@szybkiwojtas7895 on sims it's enjoyable, trashing the car around those medium speed corners and nail them perfectly is kinda fun. The problem is that when racing in reality (in any class of cars) the construction of the corners, their sequence and the tightness of some sections basically make for a single lane around the middle part of the track, and every attempt of attacking the car in front makes you waste a lot of time and momentum. Add to it the huge dimensions of the F1 cars of this era and the fact that the previous generation was horrible in dirty air and the racing was a snoozefest. Could have been rather interesting with the cars of today about handling in dirty air, but the sheer size of the cars could have remained a very limiting factor...
And because such a street circuit isnt that attractive 😂
The reason why it’s not there anymore is because of there war on Ukraine. Russia is now never allowed to be in F1 anymore.
Charade might not be used in F1 anymore but it is still being driven and maintained and a really cool track to drive with a classic car.
A small section of it.
@@heliofaros1344the "small" version is still over 4km long and could be used by itself for an F1 track
@@Deicture No it couldn't. It's not even close to F1 "standard".
Don't forget you need to 20 miles of concrete run-off these days so that all the mistakes are forgotten and they just carry on...
At the French Grand Prix of 1972 those volcanic rocks littering the track affected the race. First, Helmut Marko (the director of Red Bull today) had one of them fly into his face which blinded him in one eye and then later on Chris Amon, who was leading the race by some distance, got a puncture after running over a rock and ended up third....costing him a well deserved maiden win.
The track seems to have a crazy history - everyone should do some more research on it tbh. Some crazy things happened
Yes, and that handed victory to Jackie Stewart, who just got back after weeks of having mono
Valencia was abysmal as a racing track, but it had the great 2012 race. Again showing that a poor track can also sometimes produce something special, the conditions just have to be right.
Oh, and Crystal Palace and Reims are/were great in Grand Prix Legends. The former for F2 or 65 mod stuff, and the latter for the original 67 cars with slipstreaming and speeds up to 330 kph.
I'm so glad Vietnam didn't happen. That track PISSED ME OFF in f12020
lol - tell me you're bad at F1 without telling me you're bad... jkjk... ;P
If Valencia is C tier then Monaco is quintuple Z bottom tier.
Monaco is absolutely garbage.
@@PhonySopran0Garbage for racing, amazing for qualifying. Monaco can be improved for racing however
@@hmdwgf I guess. I just think it’s overvalued for what it is. And things like COTA are hated on for no good reason.
@@PhonySopran0 COTA is hated on because it’s in the big bad US of A. Makes no sense
@@PhonySopran0 it's hated for a good reason. It's awful
I would have loved to see that race happen in Vietnam. And i would love to see a race happen again in South Africa. But the one i really miss the most of the old Hockenheim.
I wouldn't. Spent some time in Hanoi and the whole place is a scammers paradise.
Corruption led to its demise, which I was very pleased about.
@@PA-lf8sdwell that’s the thing with most countries like Vietnam, innit? It’s not just about a particular country imho
My personal favorite is mugello. Fast, smooth corners topped of with good overtake zones, qualifying is cool too
I have been waiting for this vid from some time now from other creators!!! U actually are underrated and amazing
Haha thanks dude. Sorry it’s been so long since the last upload 😭
I went to Valencia in 2008. When we got to our numbered grandstand, lots of fans couldn't find their seats. They just weren't there. Apparently when the grandstand was erected and after the seats were bolted into place and numbered, someone realised there wasn't a gangway in the middle. They removed a swathe of seats but didn't re-number the remaining ones. The unlucky fans were told that the stewards knew about this and directed them to another grandstand where they would find seats. After about half-an-hour they all trooped back as there were no other seats so they sat on the steps where their seats would have been. Understandably the stewards weren't happy for health & safety reasons but the fans stayed put and we had to negotiate our way round them.
Later, I walked miles to the merchandise area but was told only those fans with seats opposite the pits had access. As you can imagine the stall holders were furious. It was sorted by race day but by then I CBA to go back.
I never went again.
Reims-Gueux (three straights) : nothing interesting 😑
AVUS (two straights) : look at this bad boy 😍 looks so difficult 😮💨
AVUS domination could bore fans 🗣️🗣️💥💥
Valencia is one of my favorite tracks, it is very fun to drive on the sims and the nostalgia aspect from the early 2010s and late 2000s really adds to it. Also being abandoned and “lost” sort of, just really adds to the specialty of it.
excellent video as usual, i hope you start getting more of the views you deserve soon bro
Ahh thanks bro. Appreciate the support. I’m really trying to find a way to make this take off. The best way is just for everyone to tell a friend about the channel.
Got big plans, but ultimately it’s about creating the right community first and foremost. Let’s see how the next 12 months goes 🙌🏼
Bring back these 4 circuits please.. *Kyalami* (genuinely impressed with layout and long run into T1, African race is needed), *Istanbul* (instead of Baku seeing how many yrs left on its contract, Turkey deserves a track more than Azerbaijan street circuit), *Mugello* (instead of Imola where middle part of track is SOOO much better, also long straights and tire degradation is medium-high unlike Imola's 1 stop race) and *GERMANY* (any one, Hockenheim is great if you can widen the track at stadium section and T1 and hairpin area since cars are wider nowadays, Nurburgring can easily be widen in sector 3 chicane and T1 needs the older layout, make it 77 laps with 1:05 laptimes, tire wear is often high).
I would remove (based on contract lengths otherwise Miami being the worst U.S. track can go), Imola, Baku, Mexico. 25 race season until Miami gets the sack. The sport is able to sell out venues around the world and the popularity has grown a lot in the last six years, mostly in North America.
*I love Sepang* but its very unlikely to return for financial reasons despite offering long straights, wide track, long run into T1 and gravel traps. I visited the track in May 2024, had a tour of the back straight and final turn + podium, control room etc. Very enjoyable tour and friendly, warm-hearted people as is often the case in Malaysia.
Therefore u got the AVUS Track in it, i love the Video. It was a racetrack where i was Till the end and Till the end there was no F1 Race, only DTM. And the Curve which was 43 degress was later not anymore and i stand there with my father. It was a legendary track. Great Video 👍
11:02 the track almost looks like special stage route X (10)
I was really looking forward to seeing the Vietnamese grand prix
Very nice edit while the info is a banger 😂 did you do all that by yourself?
Yeah dude. Takes so long 😅. My full time occupation is editing videos
Dallas was also the track that Martin Brundle nearly tore his left foot off at just 8 races into his career.
Crazy - that didn't come up in my research - maybe I'll have to do a Top 5 worst injuries video or something in the future...
@@jakemorganGP I believe It was Johnny Herbet who almost had a foot amputated after a crash at Brands Hatch in a F3000 race - but Martin Brundle did break both ankles at Dallas during practice. And one reason why F1 never went back to Dallas was due to one of the race race organisers absconding with the cash box.
Some currently used tracks had crazy layouts back in the day. The Monza oval is absolutely insane. Steep banking, extremely bumpy surface. It's a death trap. Old Spa also was nuts.
There was a street circuit in Cuba as well, it was through Havana and was won by Fangio
Great track. I’ve got a part 2 list but it’s not definitive and if it’s still popular I’ll do a part 3 with fan entries for the videos
Valencia, as bad as it was, hosted one of the most memorable races in recent history, the 2012 European grand prix
7:42 as a Texan, I can confirm that it’s regularly in the 90s-100s in the summer. But hey, it’s still cold, even in March!
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@@jakemorganGP eh, we’re used to it.
Fun fact about Reims Gueux: the grandstands and old pits are still there and there is a committee that protects it from being destroyed
I think Avus would have been S tier if it had more corners. That wall of death is awesome, but it only needed one giant straight, not two.
If you're planning another video featuring abandoned tracks, you can include the Buddh International circuit in India that hosted the Indian GP in 2012 and 13, and its also the track where we got the iconic pic of Vettel bowing down to his RedBull after winning the GP
Ive had the comment a lot. I would definitely include it but it’s not actually abandoned (MotoGP use it) so it doesn’t count unfortunately :(
Buddh isnt abandoned at all. Its still used for some purpose or another. Including MotoGP.
One interesting fact with Circuit de Charade is that Helmut Marko's racing career ended on that fateful day in the 1972 season when a piece of volcanic rock thrown by Ronnie Peterson's car struck his helmet visor, pierced it, and left him permanently blind in his left eye.
Marko had the misfortune of a blue shell striking him, and ended his racing career, never able to share the track with his fellow Terminator Niki Lauda.
Good list and a good video. You definitely have to do more circuits/track videos. If you are up to it you should make your own in Assetto Corsa. I am more of a new-track type of person. I want to see new ones and then they return old ones per se. De Charade is cool though. Pretty crazy how they had almost zero safety back then.
Defo gonna do a part 2. Will probs be in a month or so tho. I have another video in the works about team orders after that disaster in Hungary
@@jakemorganGP Sounds good. I look forward to whatever videos you have coming up.
F1 stopped racing at AVUS exactly because of what you said, Jean Behra fatally crashed on AVUS' banking in 59.
😅 that’s awful. I was legit just reading about him for the part 2 of this video 😬
Cool video!
Glad you enjoyed it
I wouldn't mind seeing F1 return too Watkins Glenn's international layout, its fast and flowing on the back end with lots of technical sections on the front end.
Road America - I'd love to see their little F1 faces crying the moment they go off and realise they actually have to pay a price for it.
ruclips.net/video/M7yc9AoR-7k/видео.html
About Sochi being a Bottas circuit, he did get his first win there in 2017, maybe should've won the year after when he lost out to team orders, but that 2020 race you showed was the one that was pretty much gift-wrapped for him when Hamilton compromised his own race before it even started in a classic "not knowing the rules" moment. It was not the hardest-fought victory, and I remember him getting mocked a little bit for celebrating like it was an Australia 2019-type performance, but I guess he was owed one after what happened in 2018.
That's fair - in a straight fight, I think Bottas would have had Hamilton in 2020 (possibly?) but team orders to hold position probably would have applied and Bottas may never have won in that scenario. But it was definitely a Bottas track iygwim
@@jakemorganGP Looking at the Wikipedia page for that race, I had forgotten that Verstappen split the two Mercedes in qualifying, so I guess that was one hurdle Bottas had to clear during the race. I'll have to go back and watch to see just how easy it was for him in that Mercedes compared to what it's like trying to get past Verstappen in today's F1. **cough** Lando **cough**
The VTB sponsors plastered around the track made it more hillarious as if it was meant to be Bottas' circuit
0:47 "shanghai" - not the crash
As a vietnamese fan i really want to have GP in VN so much, the circuit rn actually being used for public, u pay 10 bucks to get in the track and travel around bout 2/3 of the track. Honestly the corruption was the guy who make F1 to VietNam was taken the money make the circuit and keep it for his own 😂. The track layout was really interesting but i think the time VietNam hold a GP is long haha
Dutch privateer Carel Godin de Beaufort actually went over the top of the AVUS banking during the Grand Prix of Berlin sportscar race on August 1st, 1959 as part of the support events of the German GP that was held there the next day. He tumbled down and somehow kept his Porsche in good enough condition to drive, rejoining the track at the end of the corner before being disqualified because the official felt his car was a bit too damaged from the drop. However, in the very same race at the very same spot Jean Behra lost his life.
Personally, I would put Valencia A tier. Yes, like you said, the racing wasn't very good, 2012 race aside, but it did have genuinely imaginative and nice touches. The reusing of the Americas Cup facilities to form the paddock and a former Fish Market building being used as the pit building and podium location, plus the fact that near the swing Bridge, it had miles and miles of beautiful sandy beaches
Interesting to have Indianapolis in the thumbnail but not in the list? And it should come back, as the grounds for the track have been updated and it's central US location and of course, racing history, make it an ideal spot for the sport. The only reason I imagine it hasn't returned is that Roger Penske owns both the track and IndyCar series, and probably doesn't want competition at the track for now.
Ahh haha. Good point. I’m actually running a thumbnail test right now lol. That was an older thumbnail from the proof-of-concept stage of this video project but I’m just testing out different things. If you check the community tab of my channel you can see the actual thumbnail that I am using 😁.
But I would love for F1 to race at Indy again 😍😍
Another reason for why F1 won’t go back to Indy is because of THAT race in 2005.
13:20 AVUS (Auto Versuchs- und Übungsstrecke = Car Test and Exercise Track) was and is today just a German Autobahn (A115 to be exact).
Getting blueshelled irl is wild😂
Biggest L. And it was Helmut Marko who got hit as well
I would like to see Aintree back! And it would be nice if Brand's Hatch and Donington Park could be upgraded to F1 standards.
I'm sorry but I can't get over how much this guy looks like Enzo Fitipaldi
haha - you're not the first person to say that lol. If this channel takes off, I'm gonna have to meet him some time for a video 😆
@@jakemorganGP I mean it as nothing but a compliment! He's one of my favourite F2 drivers, I hope that happens some day
There’s only one way to do that. Grow the channel/community! Tell a friend who likes F1. Word of mouth is so powerful
@@jakemorganGP oh definitely!
Who? Emmerson Ferrari???
I wouldn't mind if the calendar would only consist of Melbourne, Monza, Monaco, Spa, Silverstone, Old hockenheim, Old nurburgring, Magny Cours, Brazil and Suzuka.
Make the historic Monaco Grand Prix event into a Historic Formula One World Championship
You could never have a race at the old 14 mile Nurburgring. Lauda and other drivers didn’t want to race there in ‘76 because there weren’t enough marshals to properly manage it. It’s just really hard to run a GP on a circuit of that length, especially when most of the spectators out in the country got in for free.
Add Austria, Hungary and Montreal
You forgot Long Beach from 1976 - 1983. It's a street track! It's still used for Indycar, but F1 raced there once upon a time.
Yeah very true. I tried to focus on tracks that had been completely abandoned but maybe I should do a part two…
Part two would def be worth doing, and if you did I'd nominate Aintree for inclusion.
Not many places that have served dual purpose as both horse and car racing tracks.
Jacarepaguá
If you like insane banking, look up Sitges-Terramar.
Would love to see a race back at Kyalami sometime soon
Checkout my video '3 tracks we need back in F1' - I discuss Kyalami in that video
So you guys really enjoyed this (which is awesome, thank you!)
Like this comment if you want to see a part 2...
And reply with your nominated tracks for it... 😁
Old Brazillian GP (Rio de Janeiro - Jacarepaguá)
Can you do the Argentine GP? I know there had been multiple different configurations, but maybe you could do the last one (N°6)?
"You wouldn't want to go over the banking"...French driver Jean Behra did in 1959 with fatal results.
😅
Behra went over the banking, was thrown out of the car (because drivers didn’t wear seatbelts back then) and hit a flagpole head first, destroying his paper-mache crash hat and causing instantly fatal head injuries. And he had just been fired from Ferrari because he punched the team manager Tavoni in the face during an argument in a restaurant.
Hockenheim, Malaysia and Sochi. I loved all of them. I wish we could just pick up the Sochi track and move it to another country. I started watching F1 when I was a young kid back in seb domination years so those tracks are nostalgic for me
It's a real shame that F1 never got to race in Hanoi, would have been interesting to see how it raced.
1000%
I want Sochi becouse in f1 2020 i was playing it often
Niiice
When I think of the sochi circuit, I always think of the f2 accident where someone got buried under the barrier
That driver was Luca Ghiotto, in "collaboration"with Jack Aitken
Charade costed Helmut Marko an eye btw.
A little volcanic rock was sent straight by another car it pierced his visor and destroyed his eye
I'd like Adelaide back. Bookend the season with two Aussie bangers.
I want Brands Hatch back 😢
Will never ever happen. Impossible.
@@samuelgarrod8327 unfortunately 🥲. But in EuroNascar or other championships they still race there.
Reims, full straight, little turn, fast car and no very hard turn
Bad track
Avus
If you Tyre, wheel, hand, anything fail, you die, responsible for a lot of death people = S tier
Sports is just a modern version of gladiator events in Roman times - fans live for danger idk what to say lol
Where is indian gp ?
There are many of these tracks around 153 he said this are only 8 of them
And all these I think are not used at all
But the Indian gp is used by moto gp
In india for sure
7:05 that starting light 💀
Tracks like Charade, Rouen and the old Spa track are NOT street circuits, they are public road circuits.
Bro sounds like my legal team 😂 jk. Fair point
I actually went to the valencia streat circuit half of it was a apart of the road (main strait and pits) and other half purpose built which was faded and had a bunch of litter on it
Oh wow that’s so cool man. It would be cool to go see it in-person. Were there loads of people around or was it properly deserted?
@@jakemorganGP well the pits are now like a bike path and the main straight is a road so there was a few people but the purpose build part was completely deserted. But there was considerably less people in that part of the city which the track was located. Its quite a surreal feeling walking around an abandoned F1 track however it was extremely hot.
@@jakemorganGP the part which was built fot the GP is completely deserted. When i was there 2022 i drove on the abandoned part with a bike. Was super fun.
If The Circuit de Charade is Bowsers Castle, then AVUS is surely Luigi Circuit from Double Dash
12:13 still hurts😢😭
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Lando coul de a 2-time GP winner by now.😭😭😭
@Geomatikaktus 3-time imo
@@jakemorganGP ?
I'm from Valencia and the only thing the circuit did was wasting public money. But hey, my friends and I used to grab our bikes, get in after it was abandoned and race there, so not that bad
I enjoyed your video, and your comments on the circuits. I'd love to see the Charade circuit return. As to Dallas, I lived there and did not even try to go there in July. Whereas I used to go halfway across the continent to Mosport for the grand prix races there. (Sadly, I DID attend Caesar's Palace in its first year, but in my defense I had press passes for that one. Hot as it was, it was October and no where near the debacle Dallas was.)
ahhh that's so cool - do you work in F1/motorsports media then?
Idk why but I loved Paul Richard circuit
"You wouldnt wanna go over that banking, thats for sure" 😭 oh my god, you didnt.
bahaha - I had to 🤣
That comment is a bit over the top 🖖
I’m actually watching this from Valencia rn
there is igora drive autodrom in Saint Petersburg ??? it should be hosted races starting from 2023, but we all know what happened
Harsh on Riems as you didn't even mention the fact you can still visit the grandstands and pit area today.
What's the last track in the thumbnail? I'm sure I've seen that layout somewhere but can't remember.
It's Indianapolis - I might have to do a part two of this series...
Also, Its said that Mercedes and Auto union reached 400 km/h at Avus in the 1930s with their streamliners.
Isnt Korea also abandoned? That circuit was amazing imo
Sort of. Stay tuned for part two 😉
nice video👏
Did you know that San Jose California had a planned street track but it was never raced on?
For the pronunciation of Reims-Gueux you can just say "rains (like in Romain [Grosjean] but without the "main" and with the "s" at the end) ge (like in haagen-daas... but without the "haa" "n-daas")
Lol. Thanks
You should watch best overtake of 2010. It was in Valencia done by Kubica
God i wish the Buddh Circuit wasn't created in India. Such a good track wasted over some mismanagement and one of the most dirtiest places in the world.
I'm new to F1 ans I wonder how dot f1 tracks work? Are they specifically build for f1 or are they just for normal racing like nurburgring and then f1 starts using it one day. And does fia rent the tracks and who gets the ticket money? And what does a track need to be able to be used for f1 or are there no specific rules?
imagine avus was a track now and you didnt have drs on the straight 💀💀
Chaos
7:02 whats that guy from
Team Fortress 2 I believe 😁
@@jakemorganGP definitely not I forgot what the programme is called
Oh sorry. I was looking at the “kilometer” picture a couple seconds before lmao. That’s borat
Wawaweewa guy. “King of the castle, king of the castle” 🤠
@@jakemorganGPit’s borat, ty ty 🙏🙏
@8:43 - "TIRE STOLEN FROM MOVING CAR IN DALLAS"
Headline checks out.
I am surprised Bremgarten wasn't in there
another fact it was originally planned for Avus to have 2 banked corners but thanks to WW2 it was never finished
10:09 wtf are you serious rn I’m gonna find you 😂, nah seriously Reims gueux was one off the coolest and beautiful race track back in the days the fast corners of the track make it special and now the remaining part of the track are renovated by an association of fan and if you visit the track one day you can understand why it’s special like the atmosphere is unbelievable one of my favorite race track
Have u looked at the Adelaide Australia track/races before?
Great track
Love Valencia due to the thrill I had watching Barrichello win on 2009
AVUS with current cars would be a blast.
Id be curious to see how modern cars went along Kyalama
Valencia wasn't that bad. The 2012 race was awesome and had the best podium ever in F1
Lando refusing the switch tyres will never be unfunny, till now he still doesnt learn
Avus would be a cool thing. I live a few minutes away
Former F1 tracks:
S: Nordschleife, Charade, Pescara, Brands Hatch, Watkins Glen, Long Beach, Rouen, Buenos Aires (#15 variant), Spa (old), Interlagos (old), Montjuic, Adelaide, Osterreichring, Kyalami (old), Mosport Park
A: Reims (1951), Bremgarten, Mont-Tremblant, Boavista, Monsanto, Dijon, Indianapolis, Sebring, Riverside, Paul Ricard (80s), Istanbul, Fuji (70s), Estoril, Mexico City (80s), Hockenheim (old)
B: Reims (1953), Kyalami (90s), Dallas, AVUS, Ain Diab, Detroit, Sepang, Jarama, New Delhi
C: Phoenix, Yeongam, Fuji (2000s), Jerez, Le Mans Bugatti, Anderstorp, Pedralbes, Buenos Aires (#6, #9)
Complete shit: Sochi, Caesars Palace, Valencia
Drive Reims in a period race car and you'll change your tune. It has great flow.
I may have to do this... been tempted to do some sim videos lately as well tbf...
What so good about street tracks? The fact that the owners pay a lot of money to let F1 race there.