Twilight Princess is my personal favourite Zelda game. The story is amazing and heartfelt, the soundtrack is by far my favourite and has soooo many tracks. I listen to it most nights to sleep. Thanks for the coverage of one of the best and darkest Zelda games ever 👏
...imagine there being an undiscovered part of the map, completely excluded from any storyline but being accessible through an obscure darksouls-like questline, where you fight a twilight assassin. It hasnt been discovered until this day.
I Personally am not that big of a Fan of the bug catching sections, but the vibes of the twilight sections are immaculate, wish we got to explore more of the twilight realm than just the Palace of Twilight.
"Probably cause they were lazy" to me is not a great analogy for why content doesn't make it in. It ignores that games have deadlines to meet and "neat features / extra enemies" don't have as much a priority as getting a functional product out on release. It's Nintendo expertise on this kind of management being why We get games with very few game breaking bugs compared to something like Cyber Punk for example that was TOO fixated on less important features that they ran out of dev time to polish what they had. (Not gonna pretend I know a lot about that game though, just a disclaimer) Polish is the last part before a games release and a lot of companies are willing to take the loss on a buggy release than lose the money it would take to keep the game unreleased and polish it further. Hence day 1 patches that are far less common with Nintendo games since Nintendo understands how to manage a games development to make sure a polished product is what makes it to store shelves, even if that means underdeveloped features (Link's Awakenings Dungeon Maker comes to mind, was that in-house? still applies regardless) That kind of management requires sacrifice, which includes features that "Would've been neat." Ocarina of Time planned on having 6 elemental arrows but considering how little utilized even just the 3 that made it in. 6 would've just bloated that and took dev time away from the polish the game DID have. All for a feature that wouldn't have been fleshed out enough to be worth it. That's the great thing about a series is immediately after the concept was able to be realized in Majora's Mask and is an aspect of the game People praise rather than what it would've been in OOT. But Majora's Mask had a very strict deadline so they needed to cut it down to only 3 arrow types. Still the concept was able to realized since they decided to hold off for a better opportunity to flesh it out more proper, OOT had other things to worry about. *[ TL;DR ]* This really turned into a long comment about Game Development but meh I wanted an excuse to talk about this since calling devs lazy is a commonly said thing, Not saying it's NEVER laziness just that game devs have way more things to worry about and sometimes cutting a neat feature is necessary to get to the finish line Hopefully I didn't sound overly criticizing of what You said, I wanted to give a different perspective on it since lots of People say this, no biggie. Your videos are great 😀
Imagine if, instead of the standard Yiga assassins, at least some of the random travelers you talked to in Breath of the Wild transformed into Twilight Assassins. Or heck, maybe have it so that during the Blood Moon some of the normal NPCs do so, but will revert to normal if you defeat it or the sun comes out
2:20 - So Twilight Princess was gonna do the whole Yiga murder-you-at-random thing before BOTW was even a thing? Huh. Neat. 5:23 - That's ambitious! 8:12 - Goron Smash!
I just finished playing through Twilight Princess again last week so it's interesting to see this now. Imagine you no sooner defeat Mayor Bo and then you have to defeat that Goron golem!
I would’ve loved if the Twilight Assassin was a fully functional enemy that randomly attacked you in Hyrule Field. I feel like it should’ve been an insanely resilient enemy like that bird from Majora’s Mask that steals your sword.
I feel like a lot of this stuff was scrapped due to limitations of various sorts. Given that they already delayed the release a few times and overhauled the Twilight Realm appearance, I could buy that an open-world forest and lake were deemed too ambitious for the time and any progress on them contributed to Breath of the Wild. Regarding the pupper in the canoe, I have to wonder if they wanted some sort of feature where the dog somehow helped Link hone in on fish. My bet for the Goron golem is that they wanted that to be the obstacle Link fought while scaling the mountain for the first time, but again had to scrap it because of kinks they weren't able to fix. It looks like there
Was planned for a crowd of Gorons to assemble and block Link's path, but the assembly animation is clearly a bit... awkward and I doubt there's an easy way to have a boulder fly up to form the upper parts of the golem.
Wild that my grandpa just bought me this for my 8th birthday and nobody thought to look into just how dark the game actually was lol. I played a little bit of OoT so I knew the Zelda series and liked it, and then I saw the new one had a wolf and went "Ooh puppy" and played through that entire game only mildly creeped out at times, and needing my older brother to do a few late game timed puzzles for me cause those floating hands that chase you down after you move an orb were kinda freaky
I was replaying TP before watching this video and noticed that the Eldin light spirit said “You are now hunted by the shadows” after giving you the vessel of light. At first, I didn’t know what this meant. Now after watching this I believe that the “Shadow Assassins” were originally meant to “hunt” you while you tried to gather tears of light.
I’m happy that you mentioned these points because these were mysteries I pondered about since childhood. Btw you can play fetch with the dog in castle town and the cats can play with the ball nearby
If Faron woods looked that different, I can only imagine how the rest of Hyrule was originally formatted, Perhaps Hyrule field wouldn’t have been broken up into so many chunks, or perhaps death mountain would’ve been an ACTUAL mountain, I don’t even know what to call the final result
6:30 that is just a reskin of the Moblin's from Windwaker. These dudes move and attack just like the WW monsters. So I think they where just a placeholder in the trailer. Nothing more nothing less. You should watch the trailers first!
I hope there is a HD Switch port of twilight princess with the unused open-world rpg content and the twilight assassin implemented into the game in the near future. Nintendo would not regret that decision, many of us including myself grew up with this game since we were kids and I personally think that having a large expansion to the game in a remaster for the Switch would be a dream come true!
I saw the trailer when it was coming out and i got super hyped, especially when Link was running away from Armogohma. I got it for Christmas and played nonstop. My all time favorite zelda game. I was disappointed when several bits from the trailer were never in the finished game, but i still love it.
@@tumultuousv majora's mask had a heavier air to the entire game but didn't boast the same direct maturity that twilight princess has. Majora's mask seems more mature than it really is due to the sense of impending doom and severe steaks. But in term of violence that didn't pertain directly to game mechanics like combat, twilight princess takes the cake, along with the pure dark themes the twilight realm boasts. Not to mention the initial transformation of wolf link that could be considered graphic for the time period and graphical limitations
The Canoe was most likely placed in Ordon so that peple who tested the game at E3, could get a feel for it. I don't think it was ment to ever be there, because there is no real reason for it. It is a small river. I believe that they made The Goron giant just for fun during the making of the game, they were just playing around a bit.
Thank you for bringing up the Twilight Assassin; that enemy’s absence despite appearing kind of prominently in a cutscene has always bothered me immensely despite(or I guess because of) being a fan of the game.
@@n1nj4l1nk you are wrong lol oot doesn’t show too much that reaches Inside the mature zone. Oot is a mature but not mature type of game as for TP it’s more mature than Oot do to the Npc and great fairy.
I belive you do fight the twilight assassins there's only 2 of them and there's 2 phantom Zants on the way to the real Zant always figured Zant turned them into the phantom because they're stronger then the others.
The spinner should have been able to rotate the day cycle (It could contain the God of Rotation.. or something). This would have made the spinner actually useful (besides the bits of track shoehorned in every now and again). It also lines up quite nicely, as Arbiter's Grounds is the point where Poe hunting is really introduced, and being able to control the day/night cycle would be a huge convenience.
the shadow beast assasin kind of give me the yiga clan spys that attack you after you talk to them in npc form maybe they work like that where there a wondering npc and after your done talking to them they attack you
I don't think that the Goron golem would have been a placeholder for Fyrus. Its too complex a design. The Arwing was used in place of Volvagia because it was a model they could easily access that flew around, and I believe the AI was even based on that of the Arwings in Star Fox 64 (might be wrong but I believe that's the case), making it perfect as a placeholder for a boss with a then unfinished model. But the Goron golem would have required making a full model, including some special animations for the Gorons merging together. And all of that just to scrap it for the model later? They'd be better off using a wire frame or just enlarging Link's model or that of a single Goron. Its more likely that it was a scrapped boss, probably ending up replaced by Fyrus but perhaps in an entirely scrapped dungeon, or even a mini boss that was replaced by the Goron guard blocking the Hero's Bow. They got the model and some unique animations, tested out the AI and design concept, then decided it was too weird and replaced it with something else, or scrapped it entirely from somewhere unknown or alongside an entire dungeon.
I think the reason why faron woods was so linear in the final version of the game was because of the game cube limitations. If they have try to make twilight princess an open world game it could not fit the GameCube disk.
The only thing dark in twilight princess are the graphics. The story is just "oh no hyrule is covered in shadows". The game is what a kid thinks of what is mature and dark. Even BotW is more dark and mature with its post-apocalyptic world full of the ghost of your dead friends. And don't get me started on Majora's Mask.
Man, they really wanted to get an open forest in these games. From the Ocarina of Time beta, to Twilight princess now? Good thing they did what they did with BotW, I guess.
so the goron golem used the same movement as the armos titan? based on its stance, also did anyone else see that shimmering enemy linked killed in the scrapped faron woods segment, what was that?
i never liked Twilight Princess as much as other Zeldas. One reason is that we never got to explore some environments they showed in pre release trailers
@@tumultuousv Going out of your way to use extra syllables just to exclude a population you don't understand, you must be a nice person who makes a positive impact on the lives of others /s
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How do you figure TP is the older brother of OoT?
OoT is an adult, TP is an edgy teen both in age currently and in content/style.
Twilight Princess is my personal favourite Zelda game. The story is amazing and heartfelt, the soundtrack is by far my favourite and has soooo many tracks. I listen to it most nights to sleep. Thanks for the coverage of one of the best and darkest Zelda games ever 👏
Same
I love this game
...imagine there being an undiscovered part of the map, completely excluded from any storyline but being accessible through an obscure darksouls-like questline, where you fight a twilight assassin.
It hasnt been discovered until this day.
now that would be sick
Ik ppl may not agree with me but I wish we had more twilight sections I really enjoyed them
Omg I have the same feeling! Especially the Twilight Realm. The lack of a Twili village frustrates me because I love the Twilight Realm stuff!
There should have been a twilight dungeon
@@earthbounder200x The Palace of Twilight is a twilight dungeon...
I Personally am not that big of a Fan of the bug catching sections, but the vibes of the twilight sections are immaculate, wish we got to explore more of the twilight realm than just the Palace of Twilight.
"Probably cause they were lazy" to me is not a great analogy for why content doesn't make it in. It ignores that games have deadlines to meet and "neat features / extra enemies" don't have as much a priority as getting a functional product out on release. It's Nintendo expertise on this kind of management being why We get games with very few game breaking bugs compared to something like Cyber Punk for example that was TOO fixated on less important features that they ran out of dev time to polish what they had. (Not gonna pretend I know a lot about that game though, just a disclaimer)
Polish is the last part before a games release and a lot of companies are willing to take the loss on a buggy release than lose the money it would take to keep the game unreleased and polish it further. Hence day 1 patches that are far less common with Nintendo games since Nintendo understands how to manage a games development to make sure a polished product is what makes it to store shelves, even if that means underdeveloped features (Link's Awakenings Dungeon Maker comes to mind, was that in-house? still applies regardless)
That kind of management requires sacrifice, which includes features that "Would've been neat." Ocarina of Time planned on having 6 elemental arrows but considering how little utilized even just the 3 that made it in. 6 would've just bloated that and took dev time away from the polish the game DID have. All for a feature that wouldn't have been fleshed out enough to be worth it.
That's the great thing about a series is immediately after the concept was able to be realized in Majora's Mask and is an aspect of the game People praise rather than what it would've been in OOT. But Majora's Mask had a very strict deadline so they needed to cut it down to only 3 arrow types. Still the concept was able to realized since they decided to hold off for a better opportunity to flesh it out more proper, OOT had other things to worry about.
*[ TL;DR ]*
This really turned into a long comment about Game Development but meh I wanted an excuse to talk about this since calling devs lazy is a commonly said thing, Not saying it's NEVER laziness just that game devs have way more things to worry about and sometimes cutting a neat feature is necessary to get to the finish line
Hopefully I didn't sound overly criticizing of what You said, I wanted to give a different perspective on it since lots of People say this, no biggie. Your videos are great 😀
Imagine if, instead of the standard Yiga assassins, at least some of the random travelers you talked to in Breath of the Wild transformed into Twilight Assassins. Or heck, maybe have it so that during the Blood Moon some of the normal NPCs do so, but will revert to normal if you defeat it or the sun comes out
I always assumed the goron golem was just suppose to be a ultimate sumo match
2:20 - So Twilight Princess was gonna do the whole Yiga murder-you-at-random thing before BOTW was even a thing? Huh. Neat.
5:23 - That's ambitious!
8:12 - Goron Smash!
I just finished playing through Twilight Princess again last week so it's interesting to see this now. Imagine you no sooner defeat Mayor Bo and then you have to defeat that Goron golem!
the goron golem defeats all
I would’ve loved if the Twilight Assassin was a fully functional enemy that randomly attacked you in Hyrule Field. I feel like it should’ve been an insanely resilient enemy like that bird from Majora’s Mask that steals your sword.
When content is cut out from a GCN game, 2 words come to me very fast:
Disc space.
true, that was a big problem with wind waker
I think they couldn’t wait to port it to Wii
That goron golem is so sussy. I hope I would never see that again 🥶🥶
Bring it on...
I have seen enough.... I need to self destruct because of what I have seen.
I feel like a lot of this stuff was scrapped due to limitations of various sorts. Given that they already delayed the release a few times and overhauled the Twilight Realm appearance, I could buy that an open-world forest and lake were deemed too ambitious for the time and any progress on them contributed to Breath of the Wild.
Regarding the pupper in the canoe, I have to wonder if they wanted some sort of feature where the dog somehow helped Link hone in on fish.
My bet for the Goron golem is that they wanted that to be the obstacle Link fought while scaling the mountain for the first time, but again had to scrap it because of kinks they weren't able to fix. It looks like there
Was planned for a crowd of Gorons to assemble and block Link's path, but the assembly animation is clearly a bit... awkward and I doubt there's an easy way to have a boulder fly up to form the upper parts of the golem.
Wild that my grandpa just bought me this for my 8th birthday and nobody thought to look into just how dark the game actually was lol. I played a little bit of OoT so I knew the Zelda series and liked it, and then I saw the new one had a wolf and went "Ooh puppy" and played through that entire game only mildly creeped out at times, and needing my older brother to do a few late game timed puzzles for me cause those floating hands that chase you down after you move an orb were kinda freaky
am I the only one slightly frustrated that he referred to twilight princess as ocarina of times "older" brother
You aren't the only one.
Why? It’s supposed to be like a sequel and more mature theme to ocarina
@@bf7391 because it is younger. That is why.
@@bf7391 you said why it is in your response, it's a sequel, so it would be ocarina of times younger brother
Well. It is.
I was replaying TP before watching this video and noticed that the Eldin light spirit said “You are now hunted by the shadows” after giving you the vessel of light. At first, I didn’t know what this meant. Now after watching this I believe that the “Shadow Assassins” were originally meant to “hunt” you while you tried to gather tears of light.
2:30 I hope those twilight get into a port for the Switch.
I’m happy that you mentioned these points because these were mysteries I pondered about since childhood.
Btw you can play fetch with the dog in castle town and the cats can play with the ball nearby
If Faron woods looked that different, I can only imagine how the rest of Hyrule was originally formatted,
Perhaps Hyrule field wouldn’t have been broken up into so many chunks, or perhaps death mountain would’ve been an ACTUAL mountain, I don’t even know what to call the final result
6:30 that is just a reskin of the Moblin's from Windwaker. These dudes move and attack just like the WW monsters.
So I think they where just a placeholder in the trailer. Nothing more nothing less. You should watch the trailers first!
I hope there is a HD Switch port of twilight princess with the unused open-world rpg content and the twilight assassin implemented into the game in the near future.
Nintendo would not regret that decision, many of us including myself grew up with this game since we were kids and I personally think that having a large expansion to the game in a remaster for the Switch would be a dream come true!
Good job man love ur stuff
I saw the trailer when it was coming out and i got super hyped, especially when Link was running away from Armogohma. I got it for Christmas and played nonstop. My all time favorite zelda game. I was disappointed when several bits from the trailer were never in the finished game, but i still love it.
I have never seen this… I think this a proto-boss.
could be
I’ve been watching your videos since that majoras mask is good video
Cool Video Bro!
The Twilight Assassin’s design lowkey reminds me of the unsettling concept designs for the BOTW Guardians.
I guess the twilight assassin are hiding like Sheika? But hiding a bit too much.
Twilight princess was the only legend of zelda game with a teen rating. So most mature legend of zelda game is fitting
Majors mask is more mature.
@@tumultuousv majora's mask had a heavier air to the entire game but didn't boast the same direct maturity that twilight princess has. Majora's mask seems more mature than it really is due to the sense of impending doom and severe steaks. But in term of violence that didn't pertain directly to game mechanics like combat, twilight princess takes the cake, along with the pure dark themes the twilight realm boasts. Not to mention the initial transformation of wolf link that could be considered graphic for the time period and graphical limitations
7:20 someone at Nintendo read In The Hills The Cities by Clive Barker
Majora's Mask was alot more darker than Twilight Princess
In a trailer. Skulltula could bind Link in webs and pounce onto him.
The Canoe was most likely placed in Ordon so that peple who tested the game at E3, could get a feel for it. I don't think it was ment to ever be there, because there is no real reason for it. It is a small river. I believe that they made The Goron giant just for fun during the making of the game, they were just playing around a bit.
Thank you for bringing up the Twilight Assassin; that enemy’s absence despite appearing kind of prominently in a cutscene has always bothered me immensely despite(or I guess because of) being a fan of the game.
How can Twilight Princess be the older brother of Ocarina of Time when it's actually younger?
I missed this when I commented pretty much the same.
What i meant by that is that tp is like the mature version of oot. It feels like an older brother also because the age rating for it is higher
@@drwily I disagree 100%. TP is in no way more mature than OoT, it just has a darker colour palette and is edgy.
@@n1nj4l1nk And a higher age rating.
@@n1nj4l1nk you are wrong lol oot doesn’t show too much that reaches Inside the mature zone. Oot is a mature but not mature type of game as for TP it’s more mature than Oot do to the Npc and great fairy.
I belive you do fight the twilight assassins there's only 2 of them and there's 2 phantom Zants on the way to the real Zant always figured Zant turned them into the phantom because they're stronger then the others.
yeah but thats not the same as fighting the twilight assassins
Good video!!:)
The Goron golem could’ve been either a test for Fyrus or a secret/Easter egg boss that was their for fun. We will probably never truly know why.
The spinner should have been able to rotate the day cycle (It could contain the God of Rotation.. or something). This would have made the spinner actually useful (besides the bits of track shoehorned in every now and again). It also lines up quite nicely, as Arbiter's Grounds is the point where Poe hunting is really introduced, and being able to control the day/night cycle would be a huge convenience.
NOOO THE DOG BOAT RIDE WAS STOLE FROM US!!! STOLEEEN!!!!
twilight princess and majoras mask are my favorite 3d zeldas. link to the past is my fav 2d game
Tha k you for the sequel man.
no problem love you
Twilight Princess isn't the older brother of Ocarina of Time, it's the edgier younger brother....
I’m guessing it would have been like the faron woods in skyward sword
Heres a cool used feature. I think ts only in the wii version, but if you slash a cucoo enough, you take it over!
good job :)
5:30 that enemy isn’t in game?
the shadow beast assasin kind of give me the yiga clan spys that attack you after you talk to them in npc form maybe they work like that where there a wondering npc and after your done talking to them they attack you
could be, would have been cool imo
I don't think that the Goron golem would have been a placeholder for Fyrus. Its too complex a design. The Arwing was used in place of Volvagia because it was a model they could easily access that flew around, and I believe the AI was even based on that of the Arwings in Star Fox 64 (might be wrong but I believe that's the case), making it perfect as a placeholder for a boss with a then unfinished model. But the Goron golem would have required making a full model, including some special animations for the Gorons merging together. And all of that just to scrap it for the model later? They'd be better off using a wire frame or just enlarging Link's model or that of a single Goron. Its more likely that it was a scrapped boss, probably ending up replaced by Fyrus but perhaps in an entirely scrapped dungeon, or even a mini boss that was replaced by the Goron guard blocking the Hero's Bow. They got the model and some unique animations, tested out the AI and design concept, then decided it was too weird and replaced it with something else, or scrapped it entirely from somewhere unknown or alongside an entire dungeon.
I think the reason why faron woods was so linear in the final version of the game was because of the game cube limitations. If they have try to make twilight princess an open world game it could not fit the GameCube disk.
The only thing dark in twilight princess are the graphics. The story is just "oh no hyrule is covered in shadows". The game is what a kid thinks of what is mature and dark. Even BotW is more dark and mature with its post-apocalyptic world full of the ghost of your dead friends. And don't get me started on Majora's Mask.
Maybe a lot of content was cut because of the GameCube disc size?
The Goron Golem reminds me of the Stone Talus world bosses from Breath Of The Wild.
Iconic voice
Man, they really wanted to get an open forest in these games. From the Ocarina of Time beta, to Twilight princess now? Good thing they did what they did with BotW, I guess.
It's not even that open in botw you only have one real path
I wish Moblings were in Twilight princess. They're like a Stable enimy
I assume you mean the Moblins are a staple enemy.
@@xinpingdonohoe3978 yes, I had a Typo.
@@kasothronos4434 okay
Champ ! Champ !
twilight princess would be the younger brother not older
so the goron golem used the same movement as the armos titan? based on its stance, also did anyone else see that shimmering enemy linked killed in the scrapped faron woods segment, what was that?
i never liked Twilight Princess as much as other Zeldas. One reason is that we never got to explore some environments they showed in pre release trailers
No judgement but out of curiosity what kind of accent do you have?
The Twilight assassins attacking Link is not interesting, that's just annoying, I don't need another Yiga Clan.
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Ocarina of toime
Did you know there is a hidden weegee in the video? Find it and respond to this comment with a timestamp
I don't see it 🚫
@@orangutan8125 it is hidden duh
@@orangutan8125 you need a hint to find it?
@@kotlolish nvm
Weird to say they were lazy
Hi
hey :)
Dude, don't say "his or her" just say "their" :/
No.
@@tumultuousv Going out of your way to use extra syllables just to exclude a population you don't understand, you must be a nice person who makes a positive impact on the lives of others /s
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