as a romanian ,of course i give huge respect to ion cause he is a great armwrestler but john is out of this world.huge respect to ion for winning that fight but in fair and square john is little bit higher that ion!!
@@kaganturktur Actually you're right, I missed that his match was in the open weight category and not in 95KG. John won 95KG left, 95KG right, and open right. This is the only category he didn't win.
@@vaishaligujar199 Brzenk, in his prime, defeated opponents way more heavier than him. Oncescu faced Cyplenkov once and was defeated without giving much of a fight.
@@thecrazygamerletsplay9727 you're talking like you've had a succesful career in armwrestling, Both Ion and Brzenk were beasts, so stop trash talking and do your homework.
Totally wrong, John was looking for a slip out + his elbow went off the pad. It was a bad lose for John, by elbow fouls....it is clar that John is stronger then oncescu on left hand
@@seyerus well, just now i saw this fight. My mistake man....i like old vids with legendary armwreatlers at their Best form. Tell me what armwrestling fights should i watch în this f***ing 2020 year ?
Don't be ignorant, his foul was on the same level with cheating especially since John was the bigger guy physically. If Ion was already 5% better than naturally by default, as soon as John lifted his elbow, it unfairly gained him advantage that nulled Ion's edge. Ion must've been aware of this that's why he celebrated, he knew he was the better and smaller guy. Don't tell me that if you whoop a bigger guy's ass you don't feel any extra ego gratification.
costinvaly1 of course I would feel great if I beat a bigger guy, but if it was from fouls it would not even feel close to as good as actually winning. And actually, John didn’t lift his own elbow. Did you see what Ion did? He lifted johns elbow off the pad for a split second when he was adjusting his hook. I am 100% positive that John didn’t want that to happen. “Ion must have been aware of this that’s why he celebrated he knew he is the better and smaller guy”. “Must have” wow you can read minds? He celebrated because he got off with an easy foul win. I’m not saying he had no possibility of winning, but it would have been damn harder than just winning by fouls.
@@djdojo1440did you see Ion's challenges he took in his country, going against 500 or 1000 guys (huge, big, and small) in one day? The dude is a freak not just an ordinary competitor. Also how can you accuse Ion on "he lifted John's elbow"? do you even listen to yourself how stupid that sounds. You're assuming that "Ion had God like power to override John's by lifting his elbow deliberately". Don't you realize that John was already engaged full throttle and it's HIS responsability to keep his elbow down at all times, not his opponent's, that's why it was his foul (cheat related). Can't you see how logic-less you sound like? Watch them hug, Ion is smaller than his opponent, he also recovered from an awkward position in which John was almost about to win,. That hook adjustment turn in itself was supper impressive keeping in mind that John had his hand close to the pad for quite some time. You readjust your hook after some time pinned close to the pad and go up from there then come back and tell me how it went. You have no idea how hard that is. By the moment he readjusted from such close almost-loss was like a win in itself. I don't need to read anyone's minds, it's as simple as common sense. You'd also celebrate in his shoes i promise you, even though you say you wouldn't.
costinvaly1 man you act like I haven’t armwrestled or come back from a losing position before. Of course it’s hard, I can see how difficult it is, but it’s not like I’m not capable of doing the same thing. And of course John was straining a ton. It’s very clear. So was Ion. Oh and excuse me when I said he lifted his elbow off the pad, it was more like a nudge, and they still called it. His elbow barely moved! Yes, it’s Johns responsibility to keep his elbow on the pad, but when your opponent makes certain adjustments very quickly, it’s enough to move your own elbow, and you might not even be ready for it. I never claimed that Ion has God like strength, because he really doesn’t. Johns left is nothing compared to his right, and Ion was struggling like crazy. And again, he never legitimately beat John. If the match were to have continued, the outcome most definitely would have changed. I’m not saying Ion wouldn’t win, because he had a really good chance of winning, it could have gone either way, but the match ended in fouls. So it’s not a legitimate win, just a win by the rules. I’ve come back from losing positions multiple times. Some super difficult ones including the kings move. So yeah, I’ve had experience with those sorts of things. Logic-less you say. I think you’re the one who’s not grasping what happened.
costinvaly1 also I’ve been in a position where the guy I was going against elbow fouled twice, and I technically won the match. He was a pretty good competitor from my area ranked higher than me. It didn’t feel good winning against him that way. Not one bit. And if it were I in the same position as Ion, I really wouldn’t feel like I won. So you can’t say that I would celebrate too, because you’re dead wrong.
Bogdan Ryker ion e bun la amatori . Atât . La profesioniști e doar un concurent bun , redutabil , dar atât . Erau mulți care îl duceau cu ușurintă plus ca nu a câștigat niciodată un titlu la profesioniști și nici nu a bătut in vendeta vreun nume greu din Skandenberg . Asta e adevarul
Bogdan Ryker prea multă publicitate pentru Oncescu încât și eu am crezut ca e cel mai bun din lume pana am văzut cum îl rupeau Liliev , puschar , Todd, cheplenko și altii . Puschar și Liliev chiar l-au umilit , l-l țineau in Brat și i-au dat secunda . Iar pe Chellenko nici nu l-a urnit un milimetru . Brzenck i-a dat 5 -1 , Todd 6-0 și pe Todd l-au pus mulți la profesioniști . Despre ce vorbim ?
Bogdan Ryker am uitat . Și Babayev care e mai ușor decât Ion , i-a dat secunda. Deci...sa nu confundam campionatele Profesioniste de Skandenberg cu cele de amatori
as a romanian ,of course i give huge respect to ion cause he is a great armwrestler but john is out of this world.huge respect to ion for winning that fight but in fair and square john is little bit higher that ion!!
A little bit John basically beat this guy the other shit head won cause of fouls
Ion is the Romanian equivalent for John
Even he won on fouls, I like this win because of Ion's fighting spirit!!
Ion onescu!! FORTZAAAA ROMANIA!!!!
A bit of extra info - Brzenk ended up winning the category anyway.
a bit more detailed info : he won HİS 95kg category and ended up losing here. winner of this category was pushkar. 2nd is ion and 3rd is john.
@@kaganturktur Actually you're right, I missed that his match was in the open weight category and not in 95KG.
John won 95KG left, 95KG right, and open right. This is the only category he didn't win.
@@kaganturktur yes but here brzenk should win here, ioncescu had button as we use to say in italy
@@riccardosanti7738 Also in that first match where is Ion even holding on to that the hands are not slipping out :D That is looking so weird
the other guy just couldnt believe it lol
RANT the other guy is also legend name ion onsescu different weight category though now
Ion knew who he is, John beated him in the past that's why he was surprized to win against him.
" the other guy":)))) 2 times world champ u mean
@@LimiTLesSGaming9mm beat him*,
not beated him.
@@LimiTLesSGaming9mmI mean he won on fouls lol but I guess a win is a win
Neam de mizerii asta suntem. Va meritați soarta, nu știți aprecia un om de al nostru, rău sau bun cum o fi el pana la urma!!!
john brzenk is certainly our legend
1:03 That is a huge fuckin arm John got there.
Did this guy never did weight trainining? Holy fuck...
Power Oncescu!!!
If Ion would have juced like the rest, he would have become legend
I don’t think so
what did i watch
this referee may be made in china lol
When was this
2007
John was above Ion, strengthwise
shouldn't it have been best 3/5 ?
the best Oncescu!
Ez ro 😎👌
Jonh was better anyway, there is a big gap bet the two armwrestlers, ioncescu was more than lucky
John was more juiced😂
No hate,he is a legend,but don't say another legend isn't great.
This is a joke?
Darren Picone the big man is king and big man
That's a steal
Oncescu is the king
Nah, he is strong, but he is not match for arm wrestlers like Larratt, Bagent, and especially Cyplenkov.
@@assman7218 he is middleweight while those are heavyweight
@@vaishaligujar199 Brzenk, in his prime, defeated opponents way more heavier than him. Oncescu faced Cyplenkov once and was defeated without giving much of a fight.
Sa fim seriosi........Ion a fost doar norocos nu se poate compara cu John.
Cn a castigate??
@@sibiking2962 John, era normal sa castige el.
Marian Ionescu asa e dar totuși a câștigat.In sportul asta nu întotdeauna cel mai bun câștiga
Razi nu gluma Ai dreptate.Trebuie și oleacă de noroc, nu doar 💪
De fapt Ion a castigat meciul asta, nu te pricepi si nici nu ar trebui sa comentezi pe tema asta @@mariani2242
Todo Matheus Ceará kkkkkkkkkk
ion lost anyway xD fake win for him
DJ ORKHAN yeah. Ion so weak
The Crazy Gamer Let's play Ion so weak? He kills you if he punches you
suck
@@thecrazygamerletsplay9727 you must be kid If if you think ion is weak he will beat you one second
@@thecrazygamerletsplay9727 you're talking like you've had a succesful career in armwrestling, Both Ion and Brzenk were beasts, so stop trash talking and do your homework.
To be fair, John was clearly much stronger it should have been his match...
But also clearly much bigger. Watch them hug, Ion looks way smaller.
ridficulous...
friggin bs
I can’t believe he was happy to get a win that way smh
That's what happens when you win against ur idle🤭
Nu io fost rușine la oancea sa se pună la scandenberg cu regele scandenbergului
Regele e Voevoda..doar ca s-a retras
dc sa i fie ?
Brzenk almost did him with one finger! Oo-er...but he almost did! 😏
Totally wrong, John was looking for a slip out + his elbow went off the pad. It was a bad lose for John, by elbow fouls....it is clar that John is stronger then oncescu on left hand
@@munteanucosmin7237 It’s a 2 year old joke lololol
@@seyerus well, just now i saw this fight. My mistake man....i like old vids with legendary armwreatlers at their Best form. Tell me what armwrestling fights should i watch în this f***ing 2020 year ?
WTF? John Won but the referee didn't do he's job
غش 😡
oncescu no le tiene vida a john jajaja, ion tuvo suerte
Imagine getting excited when you win because the other guy fouled. I wouldn’t feel like I really won
Don't be ignorant, his foul was on the same level with cheating especially since John was the bigger guy physically. If Ion was already 5% better than naturally by default, as soon as John lifted his elbow, it unfairly gained him advantage that nulled Ion's edge. Ion must've been aware of this that's why he celebrated, he knew he was the better and smaller guy. Don't tell me that if you whoop a bigger guy's ass you don't feel any extra ego gratification.
costinvaly1 of course I would feel great if I beat a bigger guy, but if it was from fouls it would not even feel close to as good as actually winning. And actually, John didn’t lift his own elbow. Did you see what Ion did? He lifted johns elbow off the pad for a split second when he was adjusting his hook. I am 100% positive that John didn’t want that to happen. “Ion must have been aware of this that’s why he celebrated he knew he is the better and smaller guy”. “Must have” wow you can read minds? He celebrated because he got off with an easy foul win. I’m not saying he had no possibility of winning, but it would have been damn harder than just winning by fouls.
@@djdojo1440did you see Ion's challenges he took in his country, going against 500 or 1000 guys (huge, big, and small) in one day?
The dude is a freak not just an ordinary competitor. Also how can you accuse Ion on "he lifted John's elbow"? do you even listen to yourself how stupid that sounds. You're assuming that "Ion had God like power to override John's by lifting his elbow deliberately". Don't you realize that John was already engaged full throttle and it's HIS responsability to keep his elbow down at all times, not his opponent's, that's why it was his foul (cheat related). Can't you see how logic-less you sound like? Watch them hug, Ion is smaller than his opponent, he also recovered from an awkward position in which John was almost about to win,. That hook adjustment turn in itself was supper impressive keeping in mind that John had his hand close to the pad for quite some time. You readjust your hook after some time pinned close to the pad and go up from there then come back and tell me how it went. You have no idea how hard that is. By the moment he readjusted from such close almost-loss was like a win in itself. I don't need to read anyone's minds, it's as simple as common sense. You'd also celebrate in his shoes i promise you, even though you say you wouldn't.
costinvaly1 man you act like I haven’t armwrestled or come back from a losing position before. Of course it’s hard, I can see how difficult it is, but it’s not like I’m not capable of doing the same thing. And of course John was straining a ton. It’s very clear. So was Ion. Oh and excuse me when I said he lifted his elbow off the pad, it was more like a nudge, and they still called it. His elbow barely moved! Yes, it’s Johns responsibility to keep his elbow on the pad, but when your opponent makes certain adjustments very quickly, it’s enough to move your own elbow, and you might not even be ready for it. I never claimed that Ion has God like strength, because he really doesn’t. Johns left is nothing compared to his right, and Ion was struggling like crazy. And again, he never legitimately beat John. If the match were to have continued, the outcome most definitely would have changed. I’m not saying Ion wouldn’t win, because he had a really good chance of winning, it could have gone either way, but the match ended in fouls. So it’s not a legitimate win, just a win by the rules. I’ve come back from losing positions multiple times. Some super difficult ones including the kings move. So yeah, I’ve had experience with those sorts of things. Logic-less you say. I think you’re the one who’s not grasping what happened.
costinvaly1 also I’ve been in a position where the guy I was going against elbow fouled twice, and I technically won the match. He was a pretty good competitor from my area ranked higher than me. It didn’t feel good winning against him that way. Not one bit. And if it were I in the same position as Ion, I really wouldn’t feel like I won. So you can’t say that I would celebrate too, because you’re dead wrong.
Must have been praying to Allah at the end...
bruh, romanians are christian xd
What? The Romanian was awarded victory?😂😂😂 Lol. The other one was better
Mizerie de meci ...John is the best...
De e mizerie de meci?
Yea, John is the best but Oncescu is the winner mate, fugi in alta parte sa plangi
Bogdan Ryker ion e bun la amatori . Atât . La profesioniști e doar un concurent bun , redutabil , dar atât . Erau mulți care îl duceau cu ușurintă plus ca nu a câștigat niciodată un titlu la profesioniști și nici nu a bătut in vendeta vreun nume greu din Skandenberg . Asta e adevarul
Bogdan Ryker prea multă publicitate pentru Oncescu încât și eu am crezut ca e cel mai bun din lume pana am văzut cum îl rupeau Liliev , puschar , Todd, cheplenko și altii . Puschar și Liliev chiar l-au umilit , l-l țineau in Brat și i-au dat secunda . Iar pe Chellenko nici nu l-a urnit un milimetru . Brzenck i-a dat 5 -1 , Todd 6-0 și pe Todd l-au pus mulți la profesioniști . Despre ce vorbim ?
Bogdan Ryker am uitat . Și Babayev care e mai ușor decât Ion , i-a dat secunda. Deci...sa nu confundam campionatele Profesioniste de Skandenberg cu cele de amatori
Победил судья.
Oncescu best
Oncescu won nothing
Like u have