I also think it's possible if Kaido returns he'll fight alongside Joyboy in the final war against the World Government since him and King have been waiting for Luffy their entire lives and Kaido figured out Luffy was Joyboy the moment Luffy defeated him and when he was falling into the Earth's magma core because he was thinking of that moment he told King Joyboy would be the man to defeat him someday.
@@mirrorreflectionchange7076 Of course because he’s been knocked somewhere and no one knows where. If Kaido is alive it’s clear that he’s happy where he is.
Yo Daks you cooked with this one. Bb pirates vs Kaido would be insane. Kaido being a sapphire like dragon because of his awakening and his fruit allowing him to swim. Also if its sapphire it might buff your power is a brilliant idea, Luffy and him being a sun god in different ways is fantastic. I would like to add if this happens and Bb take out Kaido I would like to see Yamato have a moment with Kaido, it would be very emotional. Im very inetrested in the idea of Yamato getting scabbards similar to Oden. Having some of Kaidos crew being a scabbard to Yamato would be a nice touch aswell.
Yooo imagine Yamato seeing Kaido actually die! That would be insane!! Sort of a bitter sweet moment. But I love the idea Yamato makes kaido’s members into scabbards. Maybe the cover story shows Yamato finding all of them and recruiting them almost
Or all the remaining Beast Pirates leave Wano join up with different pirate groups or form Wano's Navy , staying landlocked in Wano makes no sense for pirates
also the idea of the sapphire scales becoming stronger in the sun for Kaido what if its not literal like the actual sun but also metaphorical like Luffy, he becomes stronger when hes fighting alongside Joyboy the Sun God and gets a power up just like the ancient robot and also it doesnt make sense for Kaido to lose to BB
@@partyboypartysover Yamato leaving could also be how Wano finds out Blackbeard is going to attack, Momo is keeping the nation closed atm Blackbeard might force it open
My pet theory has been that Big Mom survived, with Kaido being on the verge of dying. First I was thinking that she might infuse his soul into the lava and attack Elbaf with her strongest homie ever. After the Pluton reveal my theory changed to her infusing this ancient weapon with his soul and attacking Elbaf with it, calling it Ragnarök. All in accordance with the giants viking theme, and finally giving us that Big Mom vs Luffy fight we never got. This video really made me reconsider that though, very convincing!
i think instead she would take the favor she says Kaido owns her (of a semi dead Kaido), and that would be to take his life-expectacy to be back at her prime, then she would seek revenge against luffy and the giants, and in elbaf, she is defeated definitively and katakuri becames the new captain of the tottoland pirates, i think that would be (along with another villain, not as strong as a yonkou, such as a figarland garling or prince lokki) or maybe even characters like Akainu or greenbull too, make elbaf more of a multi scoped arc as Luffy and strawhats are now too strong to just have a single yonkou/crew as the enemy (wano already fullfiled that check), in a battle where luffy is the target or just in general the 4th poneglyph
This is super interesting, Dak! Seeing this end-product of your stream's comments on the subject really ties things together well from last week and other earlier discussions. The 1111 reaction vod was painful but it must have been much more frustrating live. A great video comes out of those trials so I hope you're not discouraged too much by the tech problems! Been enjoying your stuff since your first few videos, and you and people like you are much appreciated for making stuff to mull over like this. You guys are going to be instrumental in a lot of OP addicts making it through yet another span of weeks with no chapter coming. Thanks!
One idea for where Kaidos devil fruit ends up could be with Koby. How? X Drake is still missing and could be alive on Wano Why? Drake knows the force of the fruit and how it would benefit sword. He’s already been shown to be close with Koby-they also both grew up as pirates that weren’t interested in the pirate life style before joining the marines. Then start adding in the connection between Luffy and Koby. Started their journey together and both had Garp as mentors. Would be fitting for them to fight Blackbeard together and for Koby to have his DF powered by the sun since he found his inner power through the metaphorical sun, Luffy
"I don't think Oda would do that without saying".. Have you forgotten that Oda literally said he FORGOT to reveal Kaido's and Kid's DF's names in the manga? That's why we never got a text box for them. There are two things that people need to keep in mind and keep separate, what goes on IN THE STORY vs THE REAL WORLD Following EVERYTHING we've learned from the story, Kaido is 100% already awakened: 1) Kaido is a ZOAN first and foremost. Being a mythical just means he has "paramecia abilities" such as shooting fire. He fits the literal definition of a zoan awakening given by Crocodile in Impel Down ages ago: stronger, tougher, recovers fast, etc. 2) "Show, don't tell". In Egghead we learned by VISUAL CUES that an awakened zoan has the hagoromo (the haki cloud) thanks to Lucci's text box. However in the same chapter we saw Kaku's awakening WITHOUT the text box. Show, don't tell. The power of HINDSIGHT. In Onigashima we saw Hybrid Yamato with the same hagoromo when fighting against Kaido. It's clear that in the real world Oda hadn't fully decided that "hagoromo = zoan awakening" yet but the clues have been there since GREAR 4's reveal in Dressrosa, and we now know the gomu gomu is actually a zoan. 3) The Design. Kaido's design physically changed. Someone made a great comparison side by side at the subtle design changes such as the sharper teeth by Kaido and Lucci got during awakening. You can see for yourself at Kaido's brow design even got the swirl resembling the hagoromo. You can see for yourself at @12:12 and @13:04 Every other time his teeth are flat and no brows. Such details are extremely important, they're as subtle as Sanji's brows swirling to the other side when his Germa genes activate. 4) The narrative. Think about this for a second. In what world would a COMMON CAT like Lucci be awakened and Kaido isn't? Kaido is much older, much more experienced and has been a pirate for decades. Plus he name dropped awakening to Luffy. Kaido. IS. AWAKENED. Lastly, the df being called "Fish Fish" is irrelevant, it's the MODEL that determines the creature. Does Lucci look like a persian cat to you? No, he's MODEL LEOPARD. Does Kaku look like a cow to you? No, he's MODEL GIRAFFE. Does Jbra look like a chihuahua to you? No, he's a MODEL WOLF. Kaido never was and never will be a "fish". He's MODEL SEIRYU.
There is now a little part of me that wants to see a reveal of where Kaido and Big Mom came out of the lava, with their foot prints and Kaido leaving black spikes of rock from where he blew his nose to clear the lava when he got to shore... I will say Gloriosa and Stussy can provide everything Kaido and Big Mom could about Rocks, and we do know Stussy was headed to Egghead with Marco last we saw of them long before the transmission went out. I doubt Big Mom is dead if Zeus is still around, Elbaf would be interesting to tie in too good point. Kaido I don't know. Storywise he could provide all sorts of things, but Luffy could have given him the rest he wanted as well.
2:14 theres soooo much I have to say about MY MOM returning, theres sooooo much of her character arc missing AND she has a daughter, Smoothie who needs a purpose- what better purpose than to squeeze lava out of BIG MOM !
I was with the commentator in the first half, lost me in the second half. I don’t think Kaidos fruit is nearly as important as this theory suggests. I think it’s just an absurdly powerful fruit plain & simple. I don’t think Kaido was waiting for Joyboy to awaken his fish fish fruit either. Why would he want to become stronger when he is already miserable being the “world’s strongest creature”? I think the man just wanted to either feel defeat or overthrow the government himself & knew Joyboy was his best option for both so he waited in Wano for a couple decades. Kaido reallyyyy despised the world government so meeting Joyboy is a double win for him. Defeated by a literal god figure & knowing the world government was gonna be toppled afterwards. That seems more like Kaido to me. I’m with you on the Kaido just chilling in water waiting to be released when pluton is excavated theory though
@@chancemcmahan8621 Yeah, it's way more straightforward to think that YAMATO cover story will include a conclusion with her father (duh) than some convoluted awakening theories. -BB attack Wano -Yamato fight BB -BB destroy Wano's wall -Pluton and Kaido are freed -Kaido defend his daughter -BB flee Wano with Pluton -Father and daughter reconciliation -Kaido become Wano guardian -Yamato sail off Wano That just wrap up everything nicely, imo.
Seems like he would most likely awaken if he swam up a waterfall, or after another analogously impossible task. Maybe Kaido has to waken his fruit to be able to counteract the water weakening him. Maybe the requirement is to be a capable protector for Wano (a gargantuan task for Kaido imo) , like the role of the the myththilogical figure, and he therefore comes out of the water somehow awakened and, after heavy reflection of his past oppression, now be a true hero for Wano. It seems unlikely to me that mono could awaken the power in the timeframe of the series imo, so this feels plausible to me
I think one thing Dak's Sake forgot is that Dragons bring thunderclounds, which is why when Momo became an adult the clouds were worse stopping Sulong. I think it might be the opposite where the Azure dragon gets strength when not in sunlight
Imma be honest there is a huge flaw with this theory. We just spent 3 real life years fighting a dragon. I don't think Oda wants to spend more time with an extra strong dragon. But besides that i'm pretty sure the trigger for awakenings is aligning yourself with the dream that created the fruit. Luffy awakened in a moment of great stress where all he wanted was to free Wano, Yamato awakened as she became the guardian angel of Wano. If the trigger was being strong and dying I don't think that would be interesting.
I have to Agree. Too much time with dragons already. ... The only viable option I see is him (Kaido) being defeated and devoured by Im-sama in some (fast and easy) way to set up the power scale even higher at one point in the end saga.
I've been rereading the manga as of late, and in chapter 967, there's one panel that I've been really curious about, and it's really similar to the sake cups with Sabo, but I haven't seen anyone cover it specifically, so I was wondering if you had anything to say about it. Its on the last page of the chapter, and you can see Roger holding something, maybe a piece of paper or something, after he says ge wished he was born into Joyboys era. I know this might seem a bit far fetched but could you check it out?
I like the theorie, that saphire scale is a STD for preventing genetic mixups of Celestial Dragon an "normal" Humans. Like "okay, have fun with the slaves, but there has to be no offspring!"
If the walls are torn down by Blackbeard freeing Kaido and Pluton, then maybe we'd get to see Kaido and Pluton AWAKEN at the same time. vid as usual Dak! btw was that "Hidden" Celestial Dragon pic from the void century lol
Except, there's nothing down there since everything in the story is clearing point at Momonosuke being Pluton since he can COMMAND ZUNESHA. That's the exact same power as Shirahoshi who can COMMAND THE SEA KINGS. What a crazy similarity huh Both countries are former allies of the Ancient Kingdom. Both can talk AND command their respective creatures. Both are the respective ROYALTIES of their countries. Both countries also have the identical dragon statue. Momo is Pluton. It has never been clearer.
Well if kaido's fruit is eaten by bb's ship..then a legendary sunny vs saber of zebec would happen...like both could blast from their mouth ...both could fly ( at least partially sunny could be considered flying)
Hey, I hope you see this comment, but essentially, where pluton (the ship) is located is near where a Geological Pluton can form. Geological plutons form near magma chambers
Top tier theory. Only thing i would add is I could see blackbeard using the “zombie kaido” as a counter to the goresei or large scale foes like Ancient robot, Zunisha, or the giants.
Could Kaido take this moment to reconcile with Momo and Yamato, training Momo to get almost as strong as his dad. Joining the side of Luffy and healing his relationship with Yamato
I could see kaido helping indirectly luffy win a difficult fight. You gotta remember he said joy boy would be the one who beats him so if that's true he knows about joy boy. He would respect the fact he was beaten and acknowledge him as joyboy
Kaido is NOT a fish. The model is what determines the creature. Does Lucci look like a persian cat to you? No, he's MODEL LEOPARD. Does Kaku look like a cow to you? No, he's MODEL GIRAFFE. Does Jbra look like a chihuahua to you? No, he's a MODEL WOLF. Kaido never was and never will be a "fish". He's MODEL SEIRYU.
I have a theory that the DFs are actually made with technology so advanced it seems like magic to the present time, most probably utilising that “free energy” Vegapunk was talkin about. I think there used to be “gods” from other worlds with unique abilities, and when they die this technology allows their wills and abilities to be converted into the form of a fruit, for someone to eventually inherit that will and power and if they’re good enough they awaken the fruit, basically bringing it back to its former glory, what it used to be. And I think this technology was inspired by none other than Poseidon, who was the mythical being originally inhabiting the blue planet, which was eventually invaded by foreigners who built the red line to reside upon it. The blue planet used to be mostly water and barely any land mass. Then one day, the “aliens” ran out of resources and looked to the blue plant. And the ruler/god of the blue planet at the time, was Poseidon. So these aliens created Pluton and Uranus to combat this force of nature, defeated it and built the red line to live on the planet. However not all of the invaders share the same vision, some, including Nika, were just trying to find resources and a new world to live in, hopefully coexisting with Poseidon and her people. But some of his comrades, likely Imu, the gorosei and some others decided otherwise and wanted to rule with an iron fist instead. And that’s when the conflict arose, and Nika (or Joyboy, likely a name given by the blue planet inhabitants) lost, and apologised to Poseidon for what they did to her world, hence why the need to destroy the red line which was never meant to be there to begin with. Then Poseidon accepted his apology and promised to pass down her abilities and powers as well so that someday they can fight back. And during this span of time, the aliens have developed the DFs based on what Poseidon can do, that is pass on her will and power to future generations, likely something that has been done multiple times before, and the one current having the power during the invasion was a princess named Poseidon. So the concept of creating the DFs was based on that but Imu and the gang were not a fan of it, and since they can’t destroy the fruits completely, they instead placed a curse upon those who passed on their wills so that they cannot coexist with the Poseidon freely and hopefully preventing them from reuniting, hence why DFs have that weakness, which Imu and the gorosei probably do not.
As you said, Saphires come in many colors, including pink. A little known fact is that rubies are made of corundum, the same material saphires are made of. Rubies are technically just pink saphires. All this to say, i dont think there will be a problem with Momonoske awakening.
what if blackbeard has a conjoined twin. He just fed the conjoined twin the Gura Gura no mi and they share the same nervous system so he can use the power too. We never see the conjoined twin because it's been on his back the whole time, and even now he hides it with the yami yami no mi. Maybe his conjoined twin doesn't like him so he wanted the yami yami no mi so he could suppress him. His conjoined twin is the one with the will of D. not Teach. Of course you could also say the exact same thing but with a split personality instead of a conjoined/parasitic twin, but the way Marco said it's due to his weird body makes me think it's something physical.
Wish that would be true, but its too unrealistic, One Piece is wrapping up soon and Oda has no time to dedicate more panels to Kaido, while we have a number of characters that need them.
Taking Pluton from Wano is not an easy job. Because first of all Wano is now Luffy's territory and known for Samurais. Also they're specialised in the ryou haki. So picking a fight with the warriors of Wano will bring the attention of Straw hats and Marines. So the outcome will be disastrous. Also fighting with an emperor of the sea will shake the world and bring the attention of world government to Wano. Blackbeard knows this. So he'll not come to get it directly. They can get Pluton in two ways. First way Kuzan can freeze everyone like he did in whole cake island. The second thing is with help of Shiryu's Clear clear fruit they can sneak into Wano by becoming invisible and when they find Pluton with help of Van Ouger's Warp warp fruit they can teleport Pluton to outside of Wano without any casualties and their knowledge.
Kaidou wakes up and just takes over Wano again would be so stupid yet hilarious. I guess he would have to face some equal opposition for it to make sense narratively.
taking a look at the shot of where the poneglyph is located, and the shot of where big mom and kaido fell down to the magma, it would seem as tho that red arrow at 5:40 is just pointing straight at pluton
That scene with Kuzan was so out of left field that when I saw a pic of it before I seen the episode, I thought it was fanart, because that is NOT how Oda generally does things.
I feel that after a certain point, falling from HIGHER up doesn't even matter, and MOST people who could be considered strong in the OP verse probably CAN'T be killed by falling.
This all makes so much sense. When you tie in the fact that the government was trying to replicate fruits with Caesar or use one fruit for many with Bonnie.. 👀 that dragon army theory really does raise some eye brows. Makes you wonder why they called themselves “Celestial Dragons” to begin with.
Since its been proven that Kaido could not kill himself, it should mean that lava should not kill him. And he wasn't dead while in the lava. I think both Big Mom and Kaido are alive and got expelled by the eruption. They probably need to recouperate for some time. Also Kaido now know Luffy is Joyboy since he beat him. This might mean that Kaido wants to join/help him. And Big Mom will return to Whole Cake and learn that Blackbeard attacked them, prompting her to want to join/help Luffy.
The azure in azure dragon is just a translation artifact. What i'm really curious is whether we'll get vermillion bird, black turtle and white tiger fruits
Blackbeard could probably transport a shadowless person by using his dark-dark fruit power to block out the sunlight. Maybe that might've even been another reason he wanted the dark-dark fruit so bad, because of the interactions it could have with an army like Moria's.
I know this is out of topic but hear me out. I feel like the weapon Uranus was foreshadowed during whole cake.When sanji was arriving at whole cake there was rhis one dude who told about germa story in the past. In that comic strip they said that the germa's army was fighting Sora warrior of the sky. And since Uranus is something related to the i figured that Sora created Uranus and since germa was obsessed with technology it makes sense for them go after it. The only reason i think Sora lost was because he was not cut out to battleor was very old. Who knows. Also i think that the weapon Uranus will be found on Elbaf since Uranus wast the husband of gai who fathered the first generation of titans Aka in one one piece "giants". Correct me if wrong Plesde make this popular I want people to see this
I was with you in the first half, lost me in the second half. I don’t think Kaidos fruit is nearly as important as you think it may be. I think it’s just an absurdly powerful fruit plain & simple. I don’t think Kaido was waiting for Joyboy to awaken his fish fish fruit either. Why would he want to become stronger when he is already miserable being the “world’s strongest creature”? I think the man just wanted to feel defeat or overthrow the world government & knew Joyboy was his best option to get both so he waited in Wano for a couple decades to taste defeat at Joyboy hands & also to confirm Joyboy is as powerful as the legend says. Kaido despised the world government so meeting Joyboy is a double win for him. Defeated by a literal god figure & knowing the world government was gonna be toppled afterwards. That seems more like Kaido to me. I’m with you on the Kaido just chilling in water waiting to be released when pluton is excavated theory though
Ever since G4 Luffy has unlocked flight, something that Teach depended on Doc Q vs Law. His next DF must allow for air movement. While Kaido's fruit and even Marco's as many had speculated that it would be salvaged after Payback War were nice picks, they don't compliment his colour theme( both blue) .alternative picks are Dragon Storm Bird or Quetzcoalt but the issue is the theme ( green) . A zoan with Black theme can be the case with Imu and potentially the man scarred by flames . Cant recall a mythical flyingn creature causing fisures unfortunately.
I believe the dragons were the creatures to carry Uranus in the sky. Sea kings pull the Noah. Zunesha probably with pluton. Hence why they need a dragon. If all the dragons were killed it would make sense the next option be the devil fruit
Shirahoshi coomands sea kings. Momonosuke commands Zunesha and other land creatures (Zunesha is deifnitely not the only one since he was banished, which implies a herd) A winged person commands dragons. Dragons are definitely not killed. They likely live in sky islands the same way sea kings live in the depths of the oceans and the other elephants/land creatures live in god knows where in this huge Jupiter-size planet "Earth".
The story felt like something you wanted it to happen in the story not what is going to come. Be little bit more creative, like Kaido will become Luffy's ally now that he knows Luffy is Joyboy. According to Kaido, the one who can defeat him will be Joyboy and now that he has been defeated by Luffy, he can confirm it. He fights with Bleackbeard's crew who came to take Pluton. Yamato, who is on a mission to explore Wano meets Kaido and helps him fight BB's crew and BB himself. Yamato confirms to Kaido that Luffy is Joyboy..... Also tells about Zou's claim about Luffy.... Maybe BB gets his hands on Pluton maybe not but Kaido and Yamato with Momonosuke and the Scabbards join Luffy in the final war. Well... This is what I want it to happen... It's not going to but..
21:04 Kaido’s zombie would be pretty weak compared to when he was alive. In Thriller Bark, we did see that corpses were extremely weaker than when they were alive so i don’t see the point of doing that. Besides, doing that would be a really bad idea since it would only obey Moriah and not Blackbeard directly (if Garp’s shadow actually lets himself controled of course. We don’t know if the Shadow fruit can take any shadow since when Moriah took Luffy’s shadow, he didn’t know haki yet)
Regarding the ancient weapons. Is Poseidon an object to you? We know it's a living being. What makes Shirahoshi the "weapon"? The fact that she can COMMAND GIANT ANCIENT CREATURES. Momonosuke can also COMMAND A GIANT ANCIENT CREATURE. Oda does things in SETS. If one "weapon" is a living being, ALL of them are. We got that confirmation since Zou when Momo COMMANDED ZUNESHA. SHOW, DON'T TELL. I'm not denying the battleship to exist, it IS a weapon. It's just not an ANCIENT weapon. It's a COUTNER as mentioned in Water 7. Meaning it's from the WG SIDE, not the Ancient Kingdom's side. The biggest proof are the very Poneglyphs. We know that the WG DOES NOT HAVE PONEGLYPH TECH. Where are all the info about the ancient "weapons" written? IN PONEGLYPHS. Where are the blueprints written? Ponelgyphs? No. In BURNABLE PAPERS. Maybe there is "something" down there, but it's not Pluton the ancient weapon because Momo is Pluton. Sukiyaki saying it's down there is just a story passed down in his family. He has never seen whatever is down there himself. He has never seen Momo command Zunesha. Momo reading Oden's journal saying Momo is special. Kaido never found "Pluton" which he knew is in Wano and why? Because Momo was time-travelling 10 years in the future so he was literally not present in Wano. Breaking down the borders is metaphorical. It's announcing to the WG. "I'm Momo, and I'm Pluton, I can command a giant elephant."
I’ve said it time and time again, Big Mom and Kaido could be dead when just looking at their feats, but NARRATIVELY they’re dead. It makes zero sense for them to just get back up when a major theme of the whole story is out with the old generation and in with the new. Sure, both of them could probably survive an attack like this, but for the narrative of the story, it’s nonsensical and is just a situation like Igram or Pell. Just objectively bad writing if they return.
Nvm, Dak you’re cooking man. A through-line with BB getting Kaido’s fruit while attempting to get Pluton would be hype and fitting for the story. However, this is really the only way for Kaido to come back in a meaningful way, and he would also need to have taken heavy damage from Luffy’s fight to still fit well in the story. Just saying.
I’m assuming Momos fruit can’t awaken because as a copy/fake dragon fruit it probably doesn’t have a will in it. Awakening a zoan involves matching personality with and overcoming the will of your fruit, if there’s no will there’s nothing to awaken.
It would make sense if Kiado never awakened his fruit. There's a dragon statue under Wano that resembles Momo's dragon form more than Kaido, and we know that zoans have a will of their own, so it doesn't make sense that the man who oppressed the people of Wano will awaken a fruit modeled after one of its deities or gods.
That's definitely related but based on the story itself and obvious subtle design change such as his sharper teeth and such, and most importantly, the NARRATIVE, Kaido has always been awakened.
Yo what If Blackbeard also wants the Devil fruit cus of the abillity to not drown. That would make him a monster without basically any weaknesses. Negating devil fruits, being able to swim under water with the only weakness absorbing extra pain
Real question, or flaw I guess, in you saying pluton is a mole. How the fuck could a ship built at water 7 be anything akin to a counter to something that is far more comfortable underground than at sea. An advanced battle ship that can sink an island in one shot would be utter useless against a digging pluton and we know the form of the counter already.
Speaking of devil fruits I hope we get some light shined upon Page 1 and Ulti and their pirate dad in the cover story as I would love to see that backstory get expanded upon.
I think that even tho Vega punk says momos devil fruit was a failure his will become the perfected one and manifest the true form and power of the fruit but will be shown through hints in the cover story maybe maybe the last parts to far
Hoping for Kaido and Big Mom return. Also love the idea that Kaido’s fruit can come back and be more important. It would be cool to see how it is able to operate in the ocean.
Yeah. Unlike Whitebeards fruit we only saw pretty little of we saw the dragon fruit more then enough. And Luffy already beat the a guy whealding this power. Beating another dragon would be just redundant and not very exciting or creative. But the Kraken theory would only make sense if BB already had this power. (because having multiple hearts to wield multiple powers is the reason for this theory to exist in the first place...)
I gotta say of all the theories I've ever heard this is one that stuck with me. Not necessarily kraken but it would make sense as legendary, hearts, legs/bones on flag, 10 legs 10 Commanders, etc... He has to be hunting(or already have) some super special zoan right? I just assume he wants Imu's whatever it is Zoan fruit, then BB can power up his crew similar to Imu powering up the Gororsei. But Kraken makes sense if he needs to swim for the One Piece, which is why Roger and Shanks crews didn't have Devil Fruit users so they could swim.
@@thefearhawk8805 and having the fruit before does make sense, though I do kind of wonder if Blackbeard is multiple people in one body like DiD or something really weird. Just spitballing ideas for why it isn't a DF to begin with, because it seems like he did have one earlier than when he got the Dark dark fruit. At the same time, weird another fruit would "pick" him first because Zoans supposedly pick users and I assume his 3rd fruit is a zoan.(kraken makes too much sense, just theorizing for fun) I assume Blackbeard was very similar to Ace and Robin in having to fear the world knowing they exist, because they will be hunted if discovered, which could explain why he didn't sleep when he was young like Shanks and Buggy referenced. Maybe Blackbeard originally ended up in some messed up situation where his personalities split, and due to the Dark Dark fruit he can compartmentalize his personalities and make each manifest independently with different fruit? Or maybe someone with Charlotte Puddings memory ability implanted stuff? Or another devil fruit like Laws swapped 3 consciousnesses into 1 young Blackbeard? Or Blackbeard was a clone of Rocks, preceeding Stussy, but they hadn't figured out lineage factor and he went mad? Or someone like Dr Hogback mashed triplets into 1 Blackbeard? Like Ace shouldn't exist, but the Dr was mad who helped? Any other wacky ideas? Just spitballing to see if anything triggers some tie into the story.
I'm 100% sure Blackbeard is already a zoan. The yami yami is CLEARLY not a logia and that is more apparent now that we know that the gomu gomu is NOT a paramecia but a Zoan. BB's DF is also nearly identical to the "gomu gomu" so the yami yami is most definitely one of the other 3 "gods" mentioned in Skypeia. My vote is for the "god of earth" as alluded by his Black Hole attack, an allegory for the earth "swallowing everything".
Chapter 612 (fishmen island arc) : Neptune explains why they have sun at the bottom of the sea. Ancient ancestors decided to live there because of the sun The roots of the Sun Tree Eve. Enjoy blessings of the Sun even in the Dark depths of the sea. Ussop mentions: it might have connection to the jewel tree Adam that SUNNY was made from. His whale has a crown. Ryugu Castle has litteral dragon on top of it. Your welcome! (Hopefully you saw my message)
I just thought of something terrifying. Imagine seraphim's with hobby, hobby powers World government could have an unlimited army of people who could make anyone disappear from memory and existence They can disappear the entire population of a country and force them into slavery without anyone anywhere in the world ever knowing they existed
In my opinion, Kaido couldn't awake his devil fruit because of how the Azure Dragon is depicted in chinese mythology, it is supposed to be a benevolent creature after all and in Japan it's the protector of the city of Kioto Kaido doesn't really fit into any description so maybe it could have been that, since zoans have a will of their own, Kaido wasn't simply fit to awaken his devil fruit (Edit): As you mentioned, if Kaido were to play the role of 'Savior of Wano', maybe he could awaken his devil fruit? idk it could be possible
Considering the fact that Nami still has Zeus and Mother Caramel's Sun died when she did I think it's safe to say Big Mom is not dead
wasn't it 50/50 about the fact that Prometheus wasn't the same sun ?
Not really df power is different its like saying punk hazard wil return to normal after akainu death
@@JeromeFZBut she creates souls ... So they're then separate from her and her devil fruit ... Stop.
So then why the sun die?
@@JeromeFZ I believe Carmel's sun was named Pandora, not Prometheus
I also think it's possible if Kaido returns he'll fight alongside Joyboy in the final war against the World Government since him and King have been waiting for Luffy their entire lives and Kaido figured out Luffy was Joyboy the moment Luffy defeated him and when he was falling into the Earth's magma core because he was thinking of that moment he told King Joyboy would be the man to defeat him someday.
I've thought that too.
He is most likely dead since momonouske said he is no longer a threat
@@mirrorreflectionchange7076 momo is literally like 8 years old, mentally at least
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Of course because he’s been knocked somewhere and no one knows where. If Kaido is alive it’s clear that he’s happy where he is.
Yeah it would be fitting that kaido defends wano and makes big mom help him too. I believe he will help luffy too.
Yo Daks you cooked with this one. Bb pirates vs Kaido would be insane. Kaido being a sapphire like dragon because of his awakening and his fruit allowing him to swim. Also if its sapphire it might buff your power is a brilliant idea, Luffy and him being a sun god in different ways is fantastic. I would like to add if this happens and Bb take out Kaido I would like to see Yamato have a moment with Kaido, it would be very emotional. Im very inetrested in the idea of Yamato getting scabbards similar to Oden. Having some of Kaidos crew being a scabbard to Yamato would be a nice touch aswell.
Yooo imagine Yamato seeing Kaido actually die! That would be insane!! Sort of a bitter sweet moment. But I love the idea Yamato makes kaido’s members into scabbards. Maybe the cover story shows Yamato finding all of them and recruiting them almost
Or all the remaining Beast Pirates leave Wano join up with different pirate groups or form Wano's Navy , staying landlocked in Wano makes no sense for pirates
@@aleccampbell7707 they wont be landlocked, Yamato is starting her journey like Oden and like him she will also leave Wano
also the idea of the sapphire scales becoming stronger in the sun for Kaido what if its not literal like the actual sun but also metaphorical like Luffy, he becomes stronger when hes fighting alongside Joyboy the Sun God and gets a power up just like the ancient robot and also it doesnt make sense for Kaido to lose to BB
@@partyboypartysover Yamato leaving could also be how Wano finds out Blackbeard is going to attack, Momo is keeping the nation closed atm Blackbeard might force it open
My pet theory has been that Big Mom survived, with Kaido being on the verge of dying. First I was thinking that she might infuse his soul into the lava and attack Elbaf with her strongest homie ever. After the Pluton reveal my theory changed to her infusing this ancient weapon with his soul and attacking Elbaf with it, calling it Ragnarök. All in accordance with the giants viking theme, and finally giving us that Big Mom vs Luffy fight we never got.
This video really made me reconsider that though, very convincing!
i think instead she would take the favor she says Kaido owns her (of a semi dead Kaido), and that would be to take his life-expectacy to be back at her prime, then she would seek revenge against luffy and the giants, and in elbaf, she is defeated definitively and katakuri becames the new captain of the tottoland pirates, i think that would be (along with another villain, not as strong as a yonkou, such as a figarland garling or prince lokki) or maybe even characters like Akainu or greenbull too, make elbaf more of a multi scoped arc as Luffy and strawhats are now too strong to just have a single yonkou/crew as the enemy (wano already fullfiled that check), in a battle where luffy is the target or just in general the 4th poneglyph
This is super interesting, Dak! Seeing this end-product of your stream's comments on the subject really ties things together well from last week and other earlier discussions. The 1111 reaction vod was painful but it must have been much more frustrating live. A great video comes out of those trials so I hope you're not discouraged too much by the tech problems!
Been enjoying your stuff since your first few videos, and you and people like you are much appreciated for making stuff to mull over like this. You guys are going to be instrumental in a lot of OP addicts making it through yet another span of weeks with no chapter coming. Thanks!
All I'm really hoping for is that kaido survived as a fish fish man and he is sitting in the skull underwater being extra depressed
It’s becoming more and more obvious to me that Blackbeard is the final villain! Zehahaha!🏴☠️
Nah. IMU.
Zehaha
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@@GourSmithimu a lil fella
@@ramenking7055 On a big chair, with a big weapon, yeah.
One idea for where Kaidos devil fruit ends up could be with Koby.
How? X Drake is still missing and could be alive on Wano
Why? Drake knows the force of the fruit and how it would benefit sword. He’s already been shown to be close with Koby-they also both grew up as pirates that weren’t interested in the pirate life style before joining the marines.
Then start adding in the connection between Luffy and Koby. Started their journey together and both had Garp as mentors. Would be fitting for them to fight Blackbeard together and for Koby to have his DF powered by the sun since he found his inner power through the metaphorical sun, Luffy
"I don't think Oda would do that without saying"..
Have you forgotten that Oda literally said he FORGOT to reveal Kaido's and Kid's DF's names in the manga? That's why we never got a text box for them.
There are two things that people need to keep in mind and keep separate, what goes on IN THE STORY vs THE REAL WORLD
Following EVERYTHING we've learned from the story, Kaido is 100% already awakened:
1) Kaido is a ZOAN first and foremost.
Being a mythical just means he has "paramecia abilities" such as shooting fire. He fits the literal definition of a zoan awakening given by Crocodile in Impel Down ages ago: stronger, tougher, recovers fast, etc.
2) "Show, don't tell".
In Egghead we learned by VISUAL CUES that an awakened zoan has the hagoromo (the haki cloud) thanks to Lucci's text box. However in the same chapter we saw Kaku's awakening WITHOUT the text box. Show, don't tell.
The power of HINDSIGHT. In Onigashima we saw Hybrid Yamato with the same hagoromo when fighting against Kaido. It's clear that in the real world Oda hadn't fully decided that "hagoromo = zoan awakening" yet but the clues have been there since GREAR 4's reveal in Dressrosa, and we now know the gomu gomu is actually a zoan.
3) The Design.
Kaido's design physically changed. Someone made a great comparison side by side at the subtle design changes such as the sharper teeth by Kaido and Lucci got during awakening. You can see for yourself at Kaido's brow design even got the swirl resembling the hagoromo.
You can see for yourself at @12:12 and @13:04
Every other time his teeth are flat and no brows.
Such details are extremely important, they're as subtle as Sanji's brows swirling to the other side when his Germa genes activate.
4) The narrative.
Think about this for a second. In what world would a COMMON CAT like Lucci be awakened and Kaido isn't? Kaido is much older, much more experienced and has been a pirate for decades. Plus he name dropped awakening to Luffy.
Kaido. IS. AWAKENED.
Lastly, the df being called "Fish Fish" is irrelevant, it's the MODEL that determines the creature. Does Lucci look like a persian cat to you? No, he's MODEL LEOPARD.
Does Kaku look like a cow to you? No, he's MODEL GIRAFFE.
Does Jbra look like a chihuahua to you? No, he's a MODEL WOLF.
Kaido never was and never will be a "fish". He's MODEL SEIRYU.
kaido's fruit name was revealed in ch 999, it was uo uo no mi model azure dragon
There is now a little part of me that wants to see a reveal of where Kaido and Big Mom came out of the lava, with their foot prints and Kaido leaving black spikes of rock from where he blew his nose to clear the lava when he got to shore...
I will say Gloriosa and Stussy can provide everything Kaido and Big Mom could about Rocks, and we do know Stussy was headed to Egghead with Marco last we saw of them long before the transmission went out.
I doubt Big Mom is dead if Zeus is still around, Elbaf would be interesting to tie in too good point.
Kaido I don't know. Storywise he could provide all sorts of things, but Luffy could have given him the rest he wanted as well.
2:14 theres soooo much I have to say about MY MOM returning, theres sooooo much of her character arc missing AND she has a daughter, Smoothie who needs a purpose- what better purpose than to squeeze lava out of BIG MOM !
Real.
omg she's your mom too??
@@foul_ball7025 thank youuuu! And like I said there’s soo much more & I’ll have actual content coming soon!
@@unsent_racoon_podyessss lol ! I’m the 86th! 😎💋
Her part in the story is over she'd dead
I'm late but I think if Kaido or Big Mom come back it's going to be through turning the magma into a homie.
God could you imagine if big mom fully took the rest of kaidos life and made that homie
Depends on how long Law's silence was still active for
the "first" comment was Nine Hours Ago
lol wtf, plus its commenting as if it already seen the whole 24 min video within 4 mins
Maybe its perk for members of channel to get vids early
Isnt everyone watching videos in 4x speed 🤔
Ok
It's a member perk. They get videos early
This editing is fire omg 🔥 THE AGE OF SAKE IS HERE also w agenda 😈
ready to start another banger from the mind of Dak’s Sake
man thatd be dope if kaido and momo team up and fight off bb and then kaido ends up training momo and showing him how to fully utilize his df
Well kaido did always want to die so maybe he tried going into a volcano already and it didn't work
Kaido coming back for Momo training arc.
But seriously, I kind of hope Kaido stays dead. I like the fact he got his dream.
kaido better stay dead bro we all saw what luffy did to bra
I think Blackbeard will kill a weakened kaido e we hen he comes to wano
I was with the commentator in the first half, lost me in the second half. I don’t think Kaidos fruit is nearly as important as this theory suggests.
I think it’s just an absurdly powerful fruit plain & simple. I don’t think Kaido was waiting for Joyboy to awaken his fish fish fruit either. Why would he want to become stronger when he is already miserable being the “world’s strongest creature”? I think the man just wanted to either feel defeat or overthrow the government himself & knew Joyboy was his best option for both so he waited in Wano for a couple decades. Kaido reallyyyy despised the world government so meeting Joyboy is a double win for him. Defeated by a literal god figure & knowing the world government was gonna be toppled afterwards. That seems more like Kaido to me.
I’m with you on the Kaido just chilling in water waiting to be released when pluton is excavated theory though
@@chancemcmahan8621 Yeah, it's way more straightforward to think that YAMATO cover story will include a conclusion with her father (duh) than some convoluted awakening theories.
-BB attack Wano
-Yamato fight BB
-BB destroy Wano's wall
-Pluton and Kaido are freed
-Kaido defend his daughter
-BB flee Wano with Pluton
-Father and daughter reconciliation
-Kaido become Wano guardian
-Yamato sail off Wano
That just wrap up everything nicely, imo.
How did kaido get his dream? isnt the point of kaido his hypocrisy?
Oh man Kaido fruit in a ship. That would be dangerous. Can attack from the sea air and land. Deadly blast breath and tougher than dollar store steak.
very underrated channel, extremely interesting theories!
Seems like he would most likely awaken if he swam up a waterfall, or after another analogously impossible task. Maybe Kaido has to waken his fruit to be able to counteract the water weakening him. Maybe the requirement is to be a capable protector for Wano (a gargantuan task for Kaido imo) , like the role of the the myththilogical figure, and he therefore comes out of the water somehow awakened and, after heavy reflection of his past oppression, now be a true hero for Wano. It seems unlikely to me that mono could awaken the power in the timeframe of the series imo, so this feels plausible to me
ur cooking man
16:30 blackbeard opening up wano would be legendary
kaido not being awakened is crazy to think about.
I think one thing Dak's Sake forgot is that Dragons bring thunderclounds, which is why when Momo became an adult the clouds were worse stopping Sulong. I think it might be the opposite where the Azure dragon gets strength when not in sunlight
Imma be honest there is a huge flaw with this theory. We just spent 3 real life years fighting a dragon. I don't think Oda wants to spend more time with an extra strong dragon. But besides that i'm pretty sure the trigger for awakenings is aligning yourself with the dream that created the fruit. Luffy awakened in a moment of great stress where all he wanted was to free Wano, Yamato awakened as she became the guardian angel of Wano. If the trigger was being strong and dying I don't think that would be interesting.
I have to Agree. Too much time with dragons already.
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The only viable option I see is him (Kaido) being defeated and devoured by Im-sama in some (fast and easy) way to set up the power scale even higher at one point in the end saga.
Love your theories! Honestly still new to OP buy love checking out your channel for future predictions.
I've been rereading the manga as of late, and in chapter 967, there's one panel that I've been really curious about, and it's really similar to the sake cups with Sabo, but I haven't seen anyone cover it specifically, so I was wondering if you had anything to say about it. Its on the last page of the chapter, and you can see Roger holding something, maybe a piece of paper or something, after he says ge wished he was born into Joyboys era. I know this might seem a bit far fetched but could you check it out?
I like the theorie, that saphire scale is a STD for preventing genetic mixups of Celestial Dragon an "normal" Humans.
Like "okay, have fun with the slaves, but there has to be no offspring!"
Gross and I hate it lol
If the walls are torn down by Blackbeard freeing Kaido and Pluton, then maybe we'd get to see Kaido and Pluton AWAKEN at the same time. vid as usual Dak!
btw was that "Hidden" Celestial Dragon pic from the void century lol
No that was actually an image of Imu's face
(thanks for watching as always!)
My man commented 14 hours ago 💀
Guys,he probably has channel membership and got to see the video earlier
@@infinity5272 bingo
Except, there's nothing down there since everything in the story is clearing point at Momonosuke being Pluton since he can COMMAND ZUNESHA.
That's the exact same power as Shirahoshi who can COMMAND THE SEA KINGS.
What a crazy similarity huh
Both countries are former allies of the Ancient Kingdom.
Both can talk AND command their respective creatures.
Both are the respective ROYALTIES of their countries.
Both countries also have the identical dragon statue.
Momo is Pluton. It has never been clearer.
The people of Wano in the Wano arc did say that Kaido was a protector of Wano
It would be funny to see him technically being one.
Well if kaido's fruit is eaten by bb's ship..then a legendary sunny vs saber of zebec would happen...like both could blast from their mouth ...both could fly ( at least partially sunny could be considered flying)
13:19 kaido was awakened
Nowhere is that ever stated in the manga.
And it is always stated if you are.
Hey, I hope you see this comment, but essentially, where pluton (the ship) is located is near where a Geological Pluton can form. Geological plutons form near magma chambers
Top tier theory. Only thing i would add is I could see blackbeard using the “zombie kaido” as a counter to the goresei or large scale foes like Ancient robot, Zunisha, or the giants.
Totally agree with that.
Could Kaido take this moment to reconcile with Momo and Yamato, training Momo to get almost as strong as his dad. Joining the side of Luffy and healing his relationship with Yamato
Dak you cooked here sir 🔥🔥 I’m now on board with the significance of fish fish fruit thank you for this 💯
Awwwwwww yeaaa Dak dropped 😎
There have been theories that Nami has the ability to control Uranus and might be able to use it against the Blackbeard pirates
I could see kaido helping indirectly luffy win a difficult fight. You gotta remember he said joy boy would be the one who beats him so if that's true he knows about joy boy. He would respect the fact he was beaten and acknowledge him as joyboy
It would be cool if he could breathe like icy fire that freezes you on the spot like Brooks attack just stronger
Wow so many things i learned from this video Kaido info was great!
Kaido is NOT a fish. The model is what determines the creature.
Does Lucci look like a persian cat to you? No, he's MODEL LEOPARD.
Does Kaku look like a cow to you? No, he's MODEL GIRAFFE.
Does Jbra look like a chihuahua to you? No, he's a MODEL WOLF.
Kaido never was and never will be a "fish". He's MODEL SEIRYU.
PLUTON IS A MOLE! YA DIG?
Ah yes, after 4 years of a dragon antagonist I need another one!
Dont dragon usually protect treasures. Maybe Kaido will be that “dragon” that protects pluton when BB arrives
I knew from second 1 big mom wasn't dead just because zeus is still around
The volcano erupted after Kaido was smashed down into the lava. It's possible he and big meme were shot out far away from Wano.
I have a theory that the DFs are actually made with technology so advanced it seems like magic to the present time, most probably utilising that “free energy” Vegapunk was talkin about.
I think there used to be “gods” from other worlds with unique abilities, and when they die this technology allows their wills and abilities to be converted into the form of a fruit, for someone to eventually inherit that will and power and if they’re good enough they awaken the fruit, basically bringing it back to its former glory, what it used to be.
And I think this technology was inspired by none other than Poseidon, who was the mythical being originally inhabiting the blue planet, which was eventually invaded by foreigners who built the red line to reside upon it.
The blue planet used to be mostly water and barely any land mass. Then one day, the “aliens” ran out of resources and looked to the blue plant.
And the ruler/god of the blue planet at the time, was Poseidon. So these aliens created Pluton and Uranus to combat this force of nature, defeated it and built the red line to live on the planet.
However not all of the invaders share the same vision, some, including Nika, were just trying to find resources and a new world to live in, hopefully coexisting with Poseidon and her people. But some of his comrades, likely Imu, the gorosei and some others decided otherwise and wanted to rule with an iron fist instead.
And that’s when the conflict arose, and Nika (or Joyboy, likely a name given by the blue planet inhabitants) lost, and apologised to Poseidon for what they did to her world, hence why the need to destroy the red line which was never meant to be there to begin with.
Then Poseidon accepted his apology and promised to pass down her abilities and powers as well so that someday they can fight back. And during this span of time, the aliens have developed the DFs based on what Poseidon can do, that is pass on her will and power to future generations, likely something that has been done multiple times before, and the one current having the power during the invasion was a princess named Poseidon. So the concept of creating the DFs was based on that but Imu and the gang were not a fan of it, and since they can’t destroy the fruits completely, they instead placed a curse upon those who passed on their wills so that they cannot coexist with the Poseidon freely and hopefully preventing them from reuniting, hence why DFs have that weakness, which Imu and the gorosei probably do not.
As you said, Saphires come in many colors, including pink. A little known fact is that rubies are made of corundum, the same material saphires are made of. Rubies are technically just pink saphires.
All this to say, i dont think there will be a problem with Momonoske awakening.
what if blackbeard has a conjoined twin. He just fed the conjoined twin the Gura Gura no mi and they share the same nervous system so he can use the power too. We never see the conjoined twin because it's been on his back the whole time, and even now he hides it with the yami yami no mi. Maybe his conjoined twin doesn't like him so he wanted the yami yami no mi so he could suppress him. His conjoined twin is the one with the will of D. not Teach. Of course you could also say the exact same thing but with a split personality instead of a conjoined/parasitic twin, but the way Marco said it's due to his weird body makes me think it's something physical.
Editing app ?
DaVinci resolve !
Wish that would be true, but its too unrealistic, One Piece is wrapping up soon and Oda has no time to dedicate more panels to Kaido, while we have a number of characters that need them.
"Soon" 😂 we've got at least 5 more years
Taking Pluton from Wano is not an easy job. Because first of all Wano is now Luffy's territory and known for Samurais. Also they're specialised in the ryou haki. So picking a fight with the warriors of Wano will bring the attention of Straw hats and Marines. So the outcome will be disastrous. Also fighting with an emperor of the sea will shake the world and bring the attention of world government to Wano. Blackbeard knows this. So he'll not come to get it directly. They can get Pluton in two ways. First way Kuzan can freeze everyone like he did in whole cake island. The second thing is with help of Shiryu's Clear clear fruit they can sneak into Wano by becoming invisible and when they find Pluton with help of Van Ouger's Warp warp fruit they can teleport Pluton to outside of Wano without any casualties and their knowledge.
That’s some pretty good takes actually, never thought about it like that.
Kaidou wakes up and just takes over Wano again would be so stupid yet hilarious. I guess he would have to face some equal opposition for it to make sense narratively.
taking a look at the shot of where the poneglyph is located, and the shot of where big mom and kaido fell down to the magma, it would seem as tho that red arrow at 5:40 is just pointing straight at pluton
That scene with Kuzan was so out of left field that when I saw a pic of it before I seen the episode, I thought it was fanart, because that is NOT how Oda generally does things.
I feel that after a certain point, falling from HIGHER up doesn't even matter, and MOST people who could be considered strong in the OP verse probably CAN'T be killed by falling.
Man, Moria really let himself go after that fight.
Really cool stuff!
BEST THEORY IVE SEEN ALL YEAR
Thank you bro! I hope you’ve been doing well my friend !
Kaido and Big meme will become Blackbeard’s puppet shadows
17:55 Oh my god yes, I've wanted to see a ship with a devil fruit for so long.
This all makes so much sense. When you tie in the fact that the government was trying to replicate fruits with Caesar or use one fruit for many with Bonnie.. 👀 that dragon army theory really does raise some eye brows. Makes you wonder why they called themselves “Celestial Dragons” to begin with.
Since its been proven that Kaido could not kill himself, it should mean that lava should not kill him. And he wasn't dead while in the lava.
I think both Big Mom and Kaido are alive and got expelled by the eruption.
They probably need to recouperate for some time. Also Kaido now know Luffy is Joyboy since he beat him. This might mean that Kaido wants to join/help him.
And Big Mom will return to Whole Cake and learn that Blackbeard attacked them, prompting her to want to join/help Luffy.
Kaido will probably get blasted in the face by Pluton might be how he loses, we know it's a island buster
Nice vid
Thats a wild thumbnail 😂
banger theory
Given that he breathed fire he's probably just immune to fire and lava.
The azure in azure dragon is just a translation artifact.
What i'm really curious is whether we'll get vermillion bird, black turtle and white tiger fruits
Marco's phoenix could be the "vermilion bird".
Marco just isn't big because he's not "Kaido size".
Blackbeard could probably transport a shadowless person by using his dark-dark fruit power to block out the sunlight. Maybe that might've even been another reason he wanted the dark-dark fruit so bad, because of the interactions it could have with an army like Moria's.
If Blackbeard takes kaido fruit I’m not watching Blackbeard v Luffy
The fuck I wanna watch another zoan fight vs the jump rope?
I know this is out of topic but hear me out.
I feel like the weapon Uranus was foreshadowed during whole cake.When sanji was arriving at whole cake there was rhis one dude who told about germa story in the past. In that comic strip they said that the germa's army was fighting Sora warrior of the sky. And since Uranus is something related to the i figured that Sora created Uranus and since germa was obsessed with technology it makes sense for them go after it. The only reason i think Sora lost was because he was not cut out to battleor was very old. Who knows. Also i think that the weapon Uranus will be found on Elbaf since Uranus wast the husband of gai who fathered the first generation of titans Aka in one one piece "giants".
Correct me if wrong
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I believe Garps haki is to strong for his shadow to be taken
Why does every straw hat member have only 2 syllables in the names but brook doesn’t
Because there is only 1 syllable in GOAT.
I was with you in the first half, lost me in the second half. I don’t think Kaidos fruit is nearly as important as you think it may be.
I think it’s just an absurdly powerful fruit plain & simple. I don’t think Kaido was waiting for Joyboy to awaken his fish fish fruit either. Why would he want to become stronger when he is already miserable being the “world’s strongest creature”? I think the man just wanted to feel defeat or overthrow the world government & knew Joyboy was his best option to get both so he waited in Wano for a couple decades to taste defeat at Joyboy hands & also to confirm Joyboy is as powerful as the legend says. Kaido despised the world government so meeting Joyboy is a double win for him. Defeated by a literal god figure & knowing the world government was gonna be toppled afterwards. That seems more like Kaido to me.
I’m with you on the Kaido just chilling in water waiting to be released when pluton is excavated theory though
Ever since G4 Luffy has unlocked flight, something that Teach depended on Doc Q vs Law. His next DF must allow for air movement. While Kaido's fruit and even Marco's as many had speculated that it would be salvaged after Payback War were nice picks, they don't compliment his colour theme( both blue) .alternative picks are Dragon Storm Bird or Quetzcoalt but the issue is the theme ( green) . A zoan with Black theme can be the case with Imu and potentially the man scarred by flames . Cant recall a mythical flyingn creature causing fisures unfortunately.
I believe the dragons were the creatures to carry Uranus in the sky. Sea kings pull the Noah. Zunesha probably with pluton. Hence why they need a dragon. If all the dragons were killed it would make sense the next option be the devil fruit
Shirahoshi coomands sea kings.
Momonosuke commands Zunesha and other land creatures (Zunesha is deifnitely not the only one since he was banished, which implies a herd)
A winged person commands dragons.
Dragons are definitely not killed. They likely live in sky islands the same way sea kings live in the depths of the oceans and the other elephants/land creatures live in god knows where in this huge Jupiter-size planet "Earth".
The story felt like something you wanted it to happen in the story not what is going to come. Be little bit more creative, like Kaido will become Luffy's ally now that he knows Luffy is Joyboy. According to Kaido, the one who can defeat him will be Joyboy and now that he has been defeated by Luffy, he can confirm it. He fights with Bleackbeard's crew who came to take Pluton. Yamato, who is on a mission to explore Wano meets Kaido and helps him fight BB's crew and BB himself. Yamato confirms to Kaido that Luffy is Joyboy..... Also tells about Zou's claim about Luffy.... Maybe BB gets his hands on Pluton maybe not but Kaido and Yamato with Momonosuke and the Scabbards join Luffy in the final war. Well... This is what I want it to happen... It's not going to but..
21:04 Kaido’s zombie would be pretty weak compared to when he was alive. In Thriller Bark, we did see that corpses were extremely weaker than when they were alive so i don’t see the point of doing that. Besides, doing that would be a really bad idea since it would only obey Moriah and not Blackbeard directly (if Garp’s shadow actually lets himself controled of course. We don’t know if the Shadow fruit can take any shadow since when Moriah took Luffy’s shadow, he didn’t know haki yet)
Regarding the ancient weapons.
Is Poseidon an object to you? We know it's a living being.
What makes Shirahoshi the "weapon"? The fact that she can COMMAND GIANT ANCIENT CREATURES.
Momonosuke can also COMMAND A GIANT ANCIENT CREATURE.
Oda does things in SETS.
If one "weapon" is a living being, ALL of them are. We got that confirmation since Zou when Momo COMMANDED ZUNESHA.
SHOW, DON'T TELL.
I'm not denying the battleship to exist, it IS a weapon. It's just not an ANCIENT weapon. It's a COUTNER as mentioned in Water 7.
Meaning it's from the WG SIDE, not the Ancient Kingdom's side. The biggest proof are the very Poneglyphs. We know that the WG DOES NOT HAVE PONEGLYPH TECH.
Where are all the info about the ancient "weapons" written? IN PONEGLYPHS.
Where are the blueprints written? Ponelgyphs? No. In BURNABLE PAPERS.
Maybe there is "something" down there, but it's not Pluton the ancient weapon because Momo is Pluton.
Sukiyaki saying it's down there is just a story passed down in his family.
He has never seen whatever is down there himself.
He has never seen Momo command Zunesha.
Momo reading Oden's journal saying Momo is special.
Kaido never found "Pluton" which he knew is in Wano and why? Because Momo was time-travelling 10 years in the future so he was literally not present in Wano.
Breaking down the borders is metaphorical. It's announcing to the WG. "I'm Momo, and I'm Pluton, I can command a giant elephant."
I’ve said it time and time again, Big Mom and Kaido could be dead when just looking at their feats, but NARRATIVELY they’re dead. It makes zero sense for them to just get back up when a major theme of the whole story is out with the old generation and in with the new.
Sure, both of them could probably survive an attack like this, but for the narrative of the story, it’s nonsensical and is just a situation like Igram or Pell. Just objectively bad writing if they return.
Nvm, Dak you’re cooking man. A through-line with BB getting Kaido’s fruit while attempting to get Pluton would be hype and fitting for the story.
However, this is really the only way for Kaido to come back in a meaningful way, and he would also need to have taken heavy damage from Luffy’s fight to still fit well in the story. Just saying.
Why would oda make the Blackbeard fight look visually exactly like the already longest fight in the history of one piece. That's extremely boring.
also to parallel big mom saving kaido from drowning , it might happen again to both of them but idk in what way
I am no longer hoping for Big Mom to eat Kaido and become a kaiju, this is way funnier.
I think he should steal IMU’s fruit or powers at the end of an Maryjos Arc, like the whole Madara twist but done far better and actually good.
I’m assuming Momos fruit can’t awaken because as a copy/fake dragon fruit it probably doesn’t have a will in it. Awakening a zoan involves matching personality with and overcoming the will of your fruit, if there’s no will there’s nothing to awaken.
It would make sense if Kiado never awakened his fruit. There's a dragon statue under Wano that resembles Momo's dragon form more than Kaido, and we know that zoans have a will of their own, so it doesn't make sense that the man who oppressed the people of Wano will awaken a fruit modeled after one of its deities or gods.
His fruit is awakened
That's definitely related but based on the story itself and obvious subtle design change such as his sharper teeth and such, and most importantly, the NARRATIVE, Kaido has always been awakened.
Yo what If Blackbeard also wants the Devil fruit cus of the abillity to not drown. That would make him a monster without basically any weaknesses. Negating devil fruits, being able to swim under water with the only weakness absorbing extra pain
He wouldn't take much pain due to the zoan buff to the body and hybrid form durability
Real question, or flaw I guess, in you saying pluton is a mole.
How the fuck could a ship built at water 7 be anything akin to a counter to something that is far more comfortable underground than at sea.
An advanced battle ship that can sink an island in one shot would be utter useless against a digging pluton and we know the form of the counter already.
Speaking of devil fruits I hope we get some light shined upon Page 1 and Ulti and their pirate dad in the cover story as I would love to see that backstory get expanded upon.
I think that even tho Vega punk says momos devil fruit was a failure his will become the perfected one and manifest the true form and power of the fruit but will be shown through hints in the cover story maybe maybe the last parts to far
if devil fruits still work in water, how come sea prism stone handcuffs even work for logias?
imagine kaido has slightly starved and now he's mad with hunger and faster because he's lost weight
Hoping for Kaido and Big Mom return. Also love the idea that Kaido’s fruit can come back and be more important. It would be cool to see how it is able to operate in the ocean.
I think the Zoan fruit BB is looking for isn't Kaido's. It's something we haven't seen yet. BB is going after a devil fruit of the Kraken.
Yeah. Unlike Whitebeards fruit we only saw pretty little of we saw the dragon fruit more then enough. And Luffy already beat the a guy whealding this power. Beating another dragon would be just redundant and not very exciting or creative.
But the Kraken theory would only make sense if BB already had this power. (because having multiple hearts to wield multiple powers is the reason for this theory to exist in the first place...)
@@thefearhawk8805plus the Kraken is the king of pirate lore monsters. Pirates feared the ocean's before of the kraken
I gotta say of all the theories I've ever heard this is one that stuck with me. Not necessarily kraken but it would make sense as legendary, hearts, legs/bones on flag, 10 legs 10 Commanders, etc...
He has to be hunting(or already have) some super special zoan right? I just assume he wants Imu's whatever it is Zoan fruit, then BB can power up his crew similar to Imu powering up the Gororsei. But Kraken makes sense if he needs to swim for the One Piece, which is why Roger and Shanks crews didn't have Devil Fruit users so they could swim.
@@thefearhawk8805 and having the fruit before does make sense, though I do kind of wonder if Blackbeard is multiple people in one body like DiD or something really weird. Just spitballing ideas for why it isn't a DF to begin with, because it seems like he did have one earlier than when he got the Dark dark fruit. At the same time, weird another fruit would "pick" him first because Zoans supposedly pick users and I assume his 3rd fruit is a zoan.(kraken makes too much sense, just theorizing for fun)
I assume Blackbeard was very similar to Ace and Robin in having to fear the world knowing they exist, because they will be hunted if discovered, which could explain why he didn't sleep when he was young like Shanks and Buggy referenced. Maybe Blackbeard originally ended up in some messed up situation where his personalities split, and due to the Dark Dark fruit he can compartmentalize his personalities and make each manifest independently with different fruit?
Or maybe someone with Charlotte Puddings memory ability implanted stuff? Or another devil fruit like Laws swapped 3 consciousnesses into 1 young Blackbeard?
Or Blackbeard was a clone of Rocks, preceeding Stussy, but they hadn't figured out lineage factor and he went mad?
Or someone like Dr Hogback mashed triplets into 1 Blackbeard? Like Ace shouldn't exist, but the Dr was mad who helped?
Any other wacky ideas? Just spitballing to see if anything triggers some tie into the story.
I'm 100% sure Blackbeard is already a zoan. The yami yami is CLEARLY not a logia and that is more apparent now that we know that the gomu gomu is NOT a paramecia but a Zoan.
BB's DF is also nearly identical to the "gomu gomu" so the yami yami is most definitely one of the other 3 "gods" mentioned in Skypeia.
My vote is for the "god of earth" as alluded by his Black Hole attack, an allegory for the earth "swallowing everything".
Watch kaido come back and help lift because he realizes joy boy is luffy
They never mention Yamato awakening her devil fruit, but she has those cloud things around her.
Void month is HEATING UP!
Chapter 612 (fishmen island arc) :
Neptune explains why they have sun at the bottom of the sea.
Ancient ancestors decided to live there because of the sun
The roots of the Sun Tree Eve.
Enjoy blessings of the Sun even in the Dark depths of the sea.
Ussop mentions: it might have connection to the jewel tree Adam that SUNNY was made from.
His whale has a crown.
Ryugu Castle has litteral dragon on top of it.
Your welcome! (Hopefully you saw my message)
I just thought of something terrifying. Imagine seraphim's with hobby, hobby powers
World government could have an unlimited army of people who could make anyone disappear from memory and existence
They can disappear the entire population of a country and force them into slavery without anyone anywhere in the world ever knowing they existed
In my opinion, Kaido couldn't awake his devil fruit because of how the Azure Dragon is depicted in chinese mythology, it is supposed to be a benevolent creature after all and in Japan it's the protector of the city of Kioto
Kaido doesn't really fit into any description so maybe it could have been that, since zoans have a will of their own, Kaido wasn't simply fit to awaken his devil fruit
(Edit): As you mentioned, if Kaido were to play the role of 'Savior of Wano', maybe he could awaken his devil fruit? idk it could be possible