Do You Trust Brad Treliving To Make The Leafs A Contender? | SDP
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- Опубликовано: 7 май 2024
- Steve Dangle, Adam Wylde and Jesse Blake discuss the moves Brad Treliving has made in his tenure as Maple Leafs GM so far and whether or not they believe he can get them over the hump.
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He hasn't been here long enough yet, in my eyes. Give him a few more years and come back to this.
No need to wait. Just look what he did in Calgary! A total disaster!
@@user-gk7ri1em4xkeep in mind .. the owner I think has his hands all over that team
Only issue with that is there’s no getting the cores prime years back if we don’t trust him with the job. Needs to be discussed/decided now. The core of your idea I agree with, we can’t know how he’ll be without giving him a shot. However, the decision on him or not needs to happen now
The Leafs should definitely keep Domi.
Most overrated Canadian born player ever
@@Holyshit12347 That played well against Boston when it matters the most for the Leafs ... during the playoffs. How many face-offs did he win ... in the offensive zone? 6 consecutive wins in game 7 alone. Then Sheldon, dumb, dumb Keefe stops putting him in for the face-offs.
His first season with the Habs he was a little over 70 points. Next season 44 points. Domi? No thanks
Id give domi 4 mill on a 3 year deal thats fine with me , but marner and reilly i still want gone along with keefe and shanny
I trust Treliving to recreate the team into an entirely new beast. Contender? Only if he’s willing and permitted to make major moves to change the core mindset. Pun intended.
What pun? Don’t know what a pun is?
"core" mindset is the pun
I enjoyed the core mindset pun!😊
Treliving also signed Jones, which turned out to be crucial when the goaltender injuries piled up. Tre basically understands the issues now confronting the Leafs.
Treliving had built quite a good team in Calgary but when most of your stars are asking for trades what the f do you expect him to do??? He did as good as anybody could have done with the options he had...Tkachuk wanted out.
Yeah but those good teams he built only got out of round 1 twice, and even then 2015 had a lot of leftover pieces from Feaster
The Huberdeau deal is one of the worst ever. He basically smashed a hole in his boat in Calgary and jumped off to watch us sink.
@@SaskTransferit’s obviously not a great trade but come on Weegar scored 20 goals this season and Huberdeau is waay overpaid but he’s still a middle six winger it’s not one of the worst ever.
@@SaskTransfer I do agree with you, but it honestly seemed like a great return at the time. I think everyone was legit surprised how bad Huberdeau has worked out in Calgary.
I don't trust anyone until it's done. I've been a fan for almost 50 years and trusted many only to be disappointed and have high blood pressure.
i agree with you i also have listen to so many presidents and Gms since 67 and not even one had the correct answer I'm tired of all the bs that goes on i need a change, cheer for a team that cares about winning not about making money
agree
I have more trust in Brad than I did Kyle
Based in what Brad did in Calgary... you absolutely should not
They both have made god awful decisions (Dubas with the Leafs, Treliving with the Flames). This offseason will be enormous.
I think we should give Brad at least a few years. In his first year 90% of his moves worked out. He also realized the serious lack of size on our team and addressed that. He also didn't think this team should go all in and he was right and we kept our first.
Idk about you, but klingberg and reaves were a complete fail in my eyes
@@jonathangordon448 Klinberg, yes. We got lucky he was hurt and needed the surgery, but Reaves has been a good presence and played pretty well after the initial issues. At the end of the season, whenever he was on the ice, the other team respected him and didn't throw the body as easily or frequently. And that's his job.
He also focused more on signing draft age kids to help the young ones we keep to develop this year, he didn't just blow the bank on rentals to get a quick cup and look good to MLSE
@jonathangordon448 klingberg I don't think I saw enough of to make that decision. I felt that way about bert and domi for the first few months. More so bert. But then they found their groove. I think new management and coach first. And if the coach can work with them great. I not then bye bye marner. Tavares to penguins for 50% retention (after July that's 350k) for Crosby. That's a playoff captain that wants to win again and knows how
@@peacebringer8 reaves for one year at 37 would be fine, 3 years made absolutely no sense and still doesn’t. Regardless of the contract isn’t that much money you can’t have a guy like reaves on your team anymore in this day and age. Keefe sat him for the majority of 3rd periods and even when he did play reaves was awful, and made countless mistakes that cost us games and leads. No thanks
It’s hard to say if you can trust Brad given he’s only had this job for a year and his hands were severely tied. If they finally move on from Shanahan and bring in a president that will allow Brad to do what is needed to be done, then you’ll get a chance to really judge him
To me, this year is what I'd call a "tryout year" for Treliving and the Leafs. He was brought on late, too late to make any major changes to the roster, and brought on BECAUSE they didn't want major changes. So he stuck with the core, brought on his own pieces for what he'd like the team to look like in the future, and gave them this year to audition for the future of the Leafs. A lot of his moves paid off, some of them didn't. I don't think the Leafs were ever gonna be cup contenders this year, but another first round exit definitely puts into perspective where priorities need to lie in the future.
I agree with what you guys said: this off season is REALLY what will define him moving forward. If he can find those crucial pieces and make those tough decisions, he just might be what's able to finally put this team over the hump they've been stuck on for nearly a decade.
We need players like Darcy Tucker, Gary Roberts and tie Domi on this team. That Max guy whats his name kinda reminds me of Tie. Those players played with passion and were tough to play against. Matthew Knies is sort of like this.
So many teams wanted to acquire a center to cover that position well in the playoffs..many times centers are kicked out during key faceoffs Domi can jump in to cover those.
here is my take, pardon my rant. When shanahan was first hired and as long long time leafs fan going back to the harrold ballard days i was so excited i thought finally here is a guy who played in some of the dirties brutal hockey in his era who knows how or what it takes to win a hockey game and what it takes to win the playoffs and the cup. finally a guy who can bring fortitude to this team because of his experience throughout his career. all we get is a dud, while growing in high school and watching hockey night in canada my friends and i looked up to this dude and all the great players in his era who played with grit, heart and passion and you could see it was for the love of the game and you can see it in their eyes and it wasnt about money. unfortunately now its about money. what a shame what a waste. i dont know what outcome this friday' meeting or announcement will bring. I'm getting close to retirement and the last time leafs won the cup was when i was born and all i can say is I DONT GIVE A CRAP! No doubt it will be the same fecal crap over and over and over again.
The Leafs blueprint is the same as the Jays blueprint. False hope for revenue.
@@danielmaloney946 god well put and now I’m worried the ghost of Harold Ballard is haunting the MLSE
Shanahan should thank God that he played for Scotty Bowman because that is the only reason that he is where he is now.
Shanny may have played 'dirty brutal hockey' but he hired a young soft GM who hired young soft players. This city changes everyone for the worse.
On paper Shanahan has made the right moves.
When the core 4 cannot score in the playoffs, it's time for a change.
They NEED a 1A goalie and a 1A defenseman
Dont forget the goalie. And we are surprised we didnt beat the team with 135 points last year?
Marner for Saros type deal or the return you get from Marner you use to acquire Saros!
@@dmonsefElite goalies are so far and few between. We won't score an Elite like Saros. If I were the Leafs I'd try to find a way to work a deal with Utah to snatch up Vejmelka since he only has 1 year left on his contract and Utah is very likely to rebuild what Arizona had.
@@dmonsef I agree
@@thereaversden6847 Too much gray area with Vejmelka. He had a strong 1st year and then a sophomore slump. He’s not a $2.75 million goalie. Woll health in question until he proves the Leafs wrong. No way do you want Vejmelka as ur playoff starter. They need a more established goalie. Saros should be the target and he’s very affordable with his remaining contract. Preds need more offense and Marner fits their need.
Brad Treliving built a very good team in Calgary. I think the mistake was extending Sutter at the owners' behest. Players wanted out.
they had their best seasons with sutter , any coach treliving brought in didnt do so well
@@donniedoesdishes Well, whatever impact he had was fleeting, and led to the departures of players.
@@ariea.devalois1564 which players? johnny g didnt sign because of treliving, not sutter, if it was sutter why not sign and trade, matt wanted out because of money
@@donniedoesdishes You're just flat out wrong.
Treliving left the Flames in an utter mess and was summarily fired. He was supposed to have a great relationship with his assistant GM Craig Conroy who succeeded him yet they didn’t conduct even one transaction between them in 2023/2024. Tre could have traded for Tanev, Hannifin, Markstrom and even Kadri.
Tre not having a good relationship with Conroy has nothing to do with Conroy and more to do with Flames ownership being salty.
Ownership forced him to re-sign Sutter, whereas he didn't want Sutter as he was losing the room. Sutter lost the room and players wanted him gone and Tre wanted to fire him but ownership wouldn't let him. So he left and joined the Leafs. Ownership got super salty and sent a team wide message that they won't be doing the Leafs any favors in the future.
@@ShishiriouslyTre was fired by the Flames. Wtf are you talking about?
@@sublimedhaze7792 lol no he wasn't. It said "mutually agreed to part ways" but there's no way the Flames wanted to fire him 3 weeks before the draft. He quit and all Flames fans know this.
@@Shishiriously he was fired, they paid out his contract to get rid of him.
You're the first person I've ever seen that takes PR at face value. What a life you must live 😂
Any interest in buying some oceanfront property in Arizona?
Honestly also Treliving had a rough end in Calgary but it wasnt really his fault, he lost 2 50 goal scorers the same offseason, Gaudreau he had no chance of keeping because his family wanted to leave (I still think he would of stayed otherwise), and Tkachuk I will blame him more since he has said he wanted to stay but they didnt work it out but also in theory the trade wasnt bad at the time, it sucked to lose him but they got a 70 point player and a good defenseman but hindsight the trade was insanely one sided (Huberdeaus decline has been shocking to everyone) but I dont think its his fault it turned out that way, if anything the extension before the season is the part that he is most to blame for, he also got Kadri that same offseason which has been a top player on the team since.
He also has always been solid at making a D core and getting competent Tending... even tho yaknow Markstrom in that last year became a sieve after having an amazing year but thats not his fault. I think he can build a playoff team consistently on paper, but a contending team i dont know about
Joseph Woll is not a 1st string goalie. Gets hurt too many times.
I agree 💯 percent
Totally. Woll is a great backup, but you cannot assume he will stay healthy.
Brick Woll is really Glass Woll
I agree but also question why every goalie for Toronto has injury problems. I would look into the whole program of the goalie development and training. There has to be a weak link in there somewhere
Dubas traded away all the picks and prospects for a run last year. They won one round. The cupboards are empty and Tre made some good moves and signings with what he had available. As a Calgary fan and Leafs fan(1st), I saw this guy make some bold moves. He isn’t afraid to pull the trigger on a massive trade. Be aware of that when he has some options available to him.
As a leafs-liker (i am a fan of another team but i root for them) on a less emotional level, i feel like treliving did really well in roster construction in what was given to him in such a short time. Klingberg was the only bad signing, and that was a high risk/high reward signing anyway. The depth was the best the leafs had in years, he couldn‘t move the core guys because he got there too late last year and he just didn‘t have enough cap space to spend for the BIG holes on the top defensive pairing and goalie situation left. If he could have moved marner he could have signed a 6mio goalie and use the rest plus klingbergs money for defense. That‘s like 8-9mio
I like his moves so far - Domi n Bertuzzi were great additions, but Dewar and Edmundson were great pickups. He was very limited this year. I think he isn’t afraid to make the difficult choices/moves. So, I am willing to give Tre a chance to see what he can do.
Steve mentioned that hockey fans said we would love domi for the same reasons why we would hate him(or something like that). That was partly true. I think last year was a turning point for domi. We saw more of what we wanted domi to be than what he was. The leaf fan in me loved to see the name back, but the hockey fan in me loved to see a player take that step with the team he would do anything to play for. I would sign him to a three year and see how much more he can change.
If Brad does what he did in Calgary the leafs won't go anywhere. I hope I'm wrong
He was kind of handicapped there. His relationship building with players may fix the Marner NMC issue.
agree
I mean judge Tre’s time in Calgary all you want. But it’s a whole different game out there and was his first gig.
He built an elite D, and not to mention it’s a lot harder to get guys to sign in Calgary (without over paying), let alone keep them, compared market like Toronto.
I trust Brad to try to make the Leafs a contender. I don't trust Shanahan to let him, if he's still there. With Shanahan there, he will make him prioritize the Core 4 over the team.
This is coming from a GM mode Nerd. You really need three goalies. And when I say that I mean minimum what you want is a franchise guy a high-level backup + a young goalie that can turn into a backup if you need them. Exactly like what Vancouver did. We had demco true Elite starter, we had silovs a backup that was young that will probably turn into a legitimate starter and we picked up Casey deSmith who's a very good backup. Especially considering you can get backup goalies that are okay-ish for League minimum. There's no reason not to have wall as a 1B, pickup a 1A and pick up two league min goalies who can play at the NHL level if needed. There's always a few goalies you can get for basically nothing. Even if you have to trade like a six or a seventh round pick, I'd much rather have a goalie than a pic. And even if they can't get rid of Tavares if they can trade Marner for something like a Thomas Chabot they could use that last little bit of extra cap to resign guys like Domi and bertuzzi
I blame the reeves issue on Keefe for not knowing how to utilize a goon, I’m a fan of reaves on the leafs
I'm a fan of Reaves too. Yes he's a goon but he has a certain finesse. Toronto needs him.
@@mikesmith6543 I like that given the opportunity he can control a game with his physicality
@@RookieHockeyCollector And he can keep his emotions in check. Domi looses his cool and takes a lot of needless penalties
You can't understate or forget about Martin Jones' mid-season contributions, without his clutch play the leafs might have missed the playoffs. Yet another great signing, on short notice by Brad. He dramatically improved your roster, even though it was/is fundamentally broken due to core-4 cap constraints. Give Brad 2 more years and no interference, and you'll see the second round again. Might need a new coach too.
Brad Treliving is the new assistant manager.
Can someone explain why Steve brought up the Penguins around 2:25?
If Dubas is making decisions like that with the Leafs, I think he's saying Penguins fans are going to have to worry about those kinda shenanigans too. Turning away a player like Domi who could be lights-out for a city like toronto, basically being a legacy from harrisburgh(animal house reference) is an insane decision. Pens fans should be worried
The problem I have with comparing a GM's performance from one team to another is much like comparing palyers on one team to another.. it's not black and white... a GM, just like players, will largely succeed or fail depending on support.. owners, shareholders, etc have a large say in what gets done.. I am sure Treliving ( like most GM's in the league) would love to get X player or have certain coaches, etc on the team but if the higher ups say no, then you're hands are tied. Look at Pelley.. previous years they were so comfortable running this same core back again and again and again. Now Pelley comes in and says absolutely not.. we're not here to sell jerseys... Shanny and Dubas consistently said " we can win with this group and we will win with this group"... well, nothing's happened... I trust Tre for now.. until he proves he can't be trusted. I get frustrated hearing all these rumours and armchair GM's saying what this team needs and who we should get.. listen, it's nowhere near that easy. You think these GM's don't know what kind of players they need? What is needed to win?? Of course they do.. but there are many obstacles like salary cap, player protection, NMC's, etc... I really liked hearing that virtually nobody is safe.. I know they commited to Matthews and Nylander but hearing that some of, a lot of the players, will be walked to free agency is refreshing. Hearing that possibly 3 out of 5 core players are very likely to be gone.. maybe not this year, but they won't be re-signed. That's refreshing.. Seeing Shanny in the media availability was refreshing simply due to the look like he was on an extremely short leash and has very limited time to turn this around. For me, I trust Treliving until I feel he can't be trusted. What will that take? Not recognizing the need to change and making the necessary changes.
If the hope is to have Woll eventually become the starter, what about trying for Nedelijkovic?
While I wouldn’t commit big money long term to him, he could be a great partner for 2 years. He’s capable of having great stretches which would challenge Woll to fight for the net.
Gotta give him a year or two to earn or lose trust, but he deserves more time. Even the best gm is going to have trouble given the cap and goalie sitt
How did he do in Calgary?
Tre lost Johnny Hockey Gaudreau to free agency and got nothing in return. He traded Matthew Tkachuk for Jonathan Huberdeau who sucked that season and took a bigger bite out of the cap. He signed Jacob Markstrom who didn’t excel. He signed (overpaid) Nazem Kadri. He should’ve never hired Darryl Sutter. Grade: D
@@WW3_Soon He also got a top line right hand shot d man who can run the top PP and he scored 20 goals from the blueline last year.
They make thenplayoffs? Lol. L bro. Admit it.@@bradbradbury8561
Hildeby and the prospect that plays in Russia are the future good goalies for the leafs
Domi 3 million times 3 would be a great deal.
Treliving will need time to put his stamp on this team as it's filled with Kyle Dufas🤓mistakes.
Treliving hands were tied in Calgary as Tkachuk wanted out so he did what he could nobody thought Huberdeau would turn out to be a tire fire. 🔥
Another major issue with the Leafs organization is the pro scouting department has seriously let them down in combination with the Leafs constantly trading away all the #1 draft picks in senseless deals this is how bad Kyle Dufas left the team traded away all the #1 picks & got fleeced on every contract negotiation.
Shanascam & Kyle Dufas set this franchise back 10 years ontop of the rest of the years the fan base has been suffering for the cup! 🏆
I wish they would have kept Lou Lamarillo back than instead of hiring a nerd like Kyle Dufas who had zero gm experience & it now shows why you go with veteran management & coaches bc how many more years do they want to set the organization back & the fans suffering even more the Maple Laughs are exceptionally CRUEL to Leafs nation.
I've said this before but they just need to sign a decent veteran for a year (DeSmith or Talbot) and the 2025 UFA goalie class is stacked, Shesterkin, Ullmark, Saros, hell Freddie Andersen but he's old and has health concerns. Adin Hill, Logan Thompson, Joey Daccord are decent goalies on the next tier that are also UFAs. If they can't find a goalie via trade next season, waiting could be an option.
I trust Brad. I think if you look at the moves he made as a whole, he had way more good moves than bad. He knows what this team lacks and what it needs. It really depends on if he has the freedom to do his job or if he’s being controlled by upper management.
Flames have a future goalie in Wolf. Markstrom could be a trade option!
In my opinion it's going to be a disastrous season, people will continue to make fun of this team
Bertuzzi going to Calgary they want some players he needs a long term deal it makes sense
I think Treliving is being setup to trade away a big player, and in this case it's probably Marner for some other 29 or 30yr old player, just like the Tkachuk trade in Calgary...
I also like it how this panel is saying they'll re-sign this Leaf, this Leaf, and that Leaf at discount rates even though some of them are UFAs...
Shanahan is a suit. He signed off on every decision of Dubas' marketing plan. What happens if and when Treliving aren't on the same page?
Not sure I agree with the assessment of Domi. I think he showed where he fits well and next year he will be a great addition. Tyler I wasn't seeing it until the playoffs of the value he brought. He was running around the ice being a menace and making plays. I think they should resign him. Reeves is not a resign at all once his contract is up, maybe even trade him away if possible to free up some money if needed. Marner is the hard question. If you convince him to trade away, then you have to replace his numbers, if he walks then you can sign from the free market maybe. Tavares you run it out and convince him to resign a friendly contract or you let him go and use the money to fill the voids. Not sure, but hard choices a head.
Leaf's are looking to restock the cupboards with prospects. It's not surprising they seek 3 first round draft picks for Marner.
My experience with Treliving as a flames fan, he'll build a competitive team, make moves that look really good on paper. But come playoff time the teams he builds cant get over the hump
Trade Tavares if you can.....for Mason MacTavish. Use the cap space to bring in Montour and resign Domi and/or Bert. Cowan, Weber and Minten on board next year. Trade Timmy Liljegren if he wants a penny more than he makes currently. Sign Brossoit long term for cheap if possible. I know you all think Marner is the issue, but in my mind you don't move 100 point playmakers, especially Hometown Boys. You make him see the light and take a discount.
Knies/Matthews/Marner
Bertuzzi/MacTavish/Nylander
McMann/Domi/Robertson
Cowan/Kampf/Minten
Reaves/Dewar
Rielly/Montour
Benoit/McCabe
Eddie/Boosh
Weber
Woll/Brossoit
made improvements, deserves a chance
I’ve said it for a long time… I’d love to have Torts as the Leafs head coach
LB would be the best goalie the Leafs have had for many years. The Leafs could probably sign him for $4.5M in the off season.
Treliving is the same dude who traded Matthew Tkachuk for Jonathan Huberdeau right?
Adam: the perfect goalie the leaf’s need is the Vezina winner from last year. 🤣
If the organization trusts Woll, I think extending Jones to be his back up is all the organization needs.
I doubt the leafs would have liked Domi years ago. He had one really good year with Montreal, but the rest he was just another bottom 6 guy with a lot of mins in the box. He would have been eaten alive in the 2021-2023 era by the leafs media.
He's grown a bit, still a hot head, but at least can sorta focus that energy more efficiently on the ice. I'm a habs fan, loved that 70pt year of his, but man when the other team would get to him you were better off benching him
The teams been built backwards. Dont build around the core 4. Look at the domi bert line. Its better because it does the opposite. Instead of a line that caters to one players style, its a tough line that you can plug any elite player into. If you need a willy on the top line you put him between. If you need a sniper, then 34.
Build versatile pairs of wingers that can be lethal in multiple ways based on elite players driving it. Instead of lines whos ability is all funneled through that one player and limited to doing what that core player does best.
Have a physical and big body line, a quick legs line, a "just shoot the puck" line etc. Then swap around your core based on where each one adds the most lethality in that game situation. Don't make a "matthews" line. Put him or willy or marner if he stays with whatever line that game calls for.
Here we go again 'Summer of Brad'
The problem with saying an Ulmark or someone like him would work in Toronto - your team is not built as well to support him - and as soon as things go south, you will run him out of town just like you did with Freddy.
If he keeps Domi then I will cut him some slack. Will it be his decision though?
Put it this way...i have more faith in Tre' than i ever had in the boy wonder Kyle Dubious.
Joseph Wolll has been great many times..... right before the injury. He, unfortunately has been injured at least 2 times right after he has played brilliantly. Seems like a trend.
How come no one comments on how incredibly average Morgan Reilly has been for his 7 milliion.... Lybushkin, Edmundson and for sure Benoit played as good or usually better. Reilly couldnt be more average and doesn'g earn his dollars at all. The leafs D can be scrutinized for not being defensive, I think it is a result of the game plan the coach uses (offense only). But ffs score a goal once in a while. How easy is it to defend against a team that never scores from the blue line.... and only 1 guy, maybe 2 need to be watched on the power play.
Maybe don’t allocate the majority of your cap space to 4 players and get a guy or two who can actually play decent defense and you might have a shot in the playoffs. Key word MIGHT.
Hes a darn good GM. He has to clean the crap Dubas left. I cant wait too see the return for Marner and Reilly.
You'll be paying to move Marner, no one's taking that cap hit for a guy that doesn't show up in playoffs
We cant have samsonov in our social club anymore
I thought Treliving left the Flames in a free fall with a few huge mistakes. I think he did just fine in his first year with the Leafs though.
Isn't ulmark a UFA?
The Hubredeau anchor hurts us but honestly, my opinion of Treliving's tenure is generally positive. I think his departure was at the right time - when the team needed a new face to figure out the next era - but what Treliving built was a modest team. Not a contender but Gaudreau is no Matthews (at least, outside of a contract year) and Tkachuk was no Tavares (he is now and we knew he would be and Tavares isn't but my point stands).
Flames haven't been in cup contention for 20 years. Treliving didn't fix anything for the Flames and then left them with horrifying contracts. Flamed are in a deep hole atm. I don't know why Leafs hired him. I'm quite sure it will not work out.
4 of those 6 teams that started more than 1 goalie in the playoffs that Jesse listed were eliminated in the first round… not exactly the argument he thought he made.
Marner for linus ullmark?
Marner for Ullmark?
The Leafs are a contender - in that they successfully contend enough to at least make the playoffs. Why not just be content for who the Leafs are? 😀
When Reeves pointed to his biceps on opening night this clown laughed and ate it up.
Nuf said.
The Muskoka 5 will ALL be back! Matthews, 'Slick Willie' Nylander, Mitchie Marner, JT & Rielly
And Toronto will suck again if they keep them together.
Domi played ok. He did take some stupid penalties at some critical times during the series.
Woll is injury prone
I agree 💯 percent
So was UPL until this past season. 🤷
tre has teams that won 3 rounds and the Leafs have never won 3 rounds in over 50 years. hate the handcuffs Dubas put him in though. got 4 out of 5 players that worked out. Klingberg was an omen to the playoffs injuries, eh
ask the flames
Marchand was dominate in games 3 & 4. He was a pest in game one drawing penalties but never took any. Got his team goals by drawing the penalty, that’s making himself a factor
Guys - you're over-analyzing this. If Samsonov didn't shyt his pants in his games, TO wins the series. Simple. Signed: a massive Bruins fan.
I'm probably a minority here, but I'd rather see Nylander go than Marner, I know I know, we just signed him so very unlikely, but that's just the way I feel when I look at it from a high level. As for targets for Toronto (either trade or signings)
G: Brossoit, Pekka-Luukonen, Stolarz, Lankinen (or trade Marner for Saros LOL)
D: DeMelo, Hronek, Matt Roy and Pesce/Chatfield
F: Crouse, Trenin
Juuse Saros! He has 1 year $5 million left on his contract. Trade Marner for Saros(obviously not one for one)! The Preds can trade Saros because they have their future goalie in Askarov. Woll is only age 25 and not quite ready to be a #1. Bolts have Vasilevskiy, Panthers have Bobrovsky, Bruins have Swayman. The Leafs need a #1 goalie to compete in the division and especially in the playoffs!
Brissiot. And Woll
He is stuck with bad contracts no move clauses and 4 players taking up most of the payroll. Tough to do anything.
Didn’t like the hire, didn’t like his small off-season but he had a couple good moves in Calgary
Treliving is responsible for signing Ryan "Sucks at hockey" Reaves to a 3 year contract. How can you trust someone with such bad judgement?
How could you NOT trust Treliving. Just look at the fantastic job he did in Calgary. Duh......
what has treliving ever won?
No i do not. Front office never replaced muzzin, had 22 mil and signed klingberg, season ending injury on the LTIR never replaced him. Leafs have 1 top 4 D. Front office job to provide the coach the tools to win. He failed.
He’s done an amazing job the top players needed to perform and they didn’t Willy was good though and Matthews but not enough from Reilly and marner terrible
lol.. i like the title of this video...why??? because isn't this the same question where repeatedly asked when they hired shanahan or when they hire kyle dumba$$ and when they hired sheldon...
Ever hear of. Don sweeeeeeeeeeny. Wooooooooo GOOOOOOOOP BEEEEEEEEZ 2013 -2024
did he in Calgary? Ummmmmm No!
I tried to warn Leafs fans about Sammy as a goalie. He loses his stick ALL the time. He will Bungie back and forth when the opposition gets a good cycle going. He is very aggressive with coming out to challenge players at the top of the blue. There's a reason the Capitals let him go for literally nothing.
Stability in net?
Either you develop it from youth or you pay for it with a veteran. 🤷
I trust that you or I will not change anything by trading Marner no matter where He goes they get better and we down grade...You the same people that complain Hyman trade see what happens ffs ... Grow a pair and cheer for your team!!!
I have complete faith in Treliving. Just look at what he did in Calgary, he turned a contender into a bottom feeder in about a year an a half
No.
He made the old mistake of hiring an old guy [ J.T.] to lead the team.
Hiring old guy worked in 1967 (Red Kelly) BUT the game has changed !
How well did Own Nolan work out ?
He let Dumbguy hire Matt Murray and The Senators were happy
to cast the burnt-out out. He let W. N. wreck the chemistry of the TEAM
2 years ago with his incomprehensible greed. They missed out
on a great chance to go deep in the playoffs because the team did not
gel as a unit from September because W N. did not play until December.
The proof is in the pudding.
It is time for A. FRESH START ! ! !
Stop trading and gut management. Then do some building from within.
Trade mitch for a stud goalie ...
Yes that's a good idea. And don't forget to trade Reilly. And JT needs to be moved.