Eight Years Into Matthews' Era, Leafs Need to Change Course

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  • @KevinJL
    @KevinJL 9 месяцев назад +420

    Changes should've been made after that Montréal series.

    • @Junketsuadidas
      @Junketsuadidas 9 месяцев назад +34

      Yeah that was an unreal collapse, even by Leafs standards

    • @michaelrudd1927
      @michaelrudd1927 9 месяцев назад

      My idea back then was trade with the Wild for Dumba (a year after his 50 point season) Zucc and their 1st for Marner and Holl. Wild get game-breaking offense and D depth Leafs would have got at the time a top pair right D and essentially what Domi was for them replacing Marner this year and a 1st in the teens or early 20s I can't recall. Plus a couple mil in cap room like $3M I think

    • @DanielC__
      @DanielC__ 9 месяцев назад +4

      @@Junketsuadidas and they have very high standards lol

    • @videomanking
      @videomanking 9 месяцев назад +6

      Nous sommes allés à la coupe cette année là 😎, mais on est tombé sur Tampa en repeat... fuck

    • @goose5462
      @goose5462 9 месяцев назад +1

      Bring in Reeves, lose a pylon.

  • @g_gator_g9417
    @g_gator_g9417 9 месяцев назад +417

    The Tavares deal was a curse in disguise. he is simply not worth the cap hit for someone who has at most average 80 points a season. Not bad by any means but certainly not worth 11 million a year.

    • @OhYaSure
      @OhYaSure 9 месяцев назад +27

      As a sharks fan, I’m very happy he chose TO over SJ. I think that contract is going to be harder to move than EK65

    • @Jerry-lw6uf
      @Jerry-lw6uf 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@OhYaSurenot really JT basically makes nothing this year as to most his money was in bonuses, with a year left I’m not to sure he would waive it unless they strip him of C

    • @McSomething15
      @McSomething15 9 месяцев назад +35

      It wasn't even much of a disguise. I never understood the amount of hype that signing generated. Especially for the amount it was worth.

    • @lelouchvibritannia4028
      @lelouchvibritannia4028 9 месяцев назад +8

      What do you mean disguise?

    • @lail8262
      @lail8262 9 месяцев назад +21

      I was baffled at that signing when it happened. Sure JT is really good, but they already had three elite forwards. Sign JT with big money and now you "had to" sign the trio with big money too. You could have traded Nylander or Marner then instead of just kicking the can along the road to where we are now

  • @Vladimir_Poutine710
    @Vladimir_Poutine710 9 месяцев назад +55

    The answer is clear. Leafs need to bring back Phil Kessel on a one year contract to settle the bad juju and end the curse. Do it now before it is too late.

    • @yuris4489
      @yuris4489 6 месяцев назад

      @@Vladimir_Poutine710 Phil was really great player ... a couple of years ago. It could be a great idea if you propose this way ten years earlier.

  • @alex75521
    @alex75521 9 месяцев назад +200

    Not so secret recipe to win a cup: depth, defense, goaltending

    • @teapea8184
      @teapea8184 9 месяцев назад +30

      And classic Toronto fashion they got none of those. You could argue Woll to be a good goalie, but he seems to get injured a lot.

    • @alex75521
      @alex75521 9 месяцев назад +12

      @@teapea8184 pretty much

    • @fubartotale3389
      @fubartotale3389 9 месяцев назад +12

      Spot on, a lot of people downplay Cory Crawford's contributions the Hawks cup teams, but look at his stats for those playoffs.
      They beat a lot of goalies in the HOF.

    • @martinzyka6432
      @martinzyka6432 9 месяцев назад +7

      nah the most important thing is to sign young players and overpay them to get 8 years out of them, and hoping they will become underpaid as soon as possible as that contract age. Then you have money and can afford the rest.
      or you cna put some players on LTIR :D

    • @derapalum6692
      @derapalum6692 9 месяцев назад +5

      Yes you are correct.
      And Maple Leafs have had some decent goalies. But they can´t afford world beater due to their salary structure. And that structure hurts the defence even more badly.
      Lack of depth in offense. I don´t fully agree that is the case. Bertuzzi and Domi can be called sand paper, but both have scored this or previous season 20 goals. Järnkrok scored 20 last season. Knies and Robertson has showed lot of promise. What kind of army of potential 20 goal scorer they need to bring that we will say "now there is depth".
      This team is build for offense and it makes nice regularseason stats. It is not made for playoff hockey when goaltending and defense matters. And their offense has been fairly consistently shut down in playoffs.

  • @rmyoung87
    @rmyoung87 9 месяцев назад +66

    This is how I define the problem with the Leafs' core forward group (not going to bother with the other issues, many of which we all know). They have great players, but not a great team. These guys can score on their own, but when they have to play as a team, it doesn't click. Regular season, teams don't generally plan for you specifically in their construction or methods, just trying to see what works best for them generally and run it for 6 months. That's how Mathews and Marner can stack up a crapload of points. But when they have to play as a team on the same page in the playoffs, it always falls apart. The fact that teams don't need to "respect" their depth makes it even harder on them. Doesn't have to be all that sexy either, just a couple guys on the bottom six who are good for 15 goals a year, enough that when the top lines are at an impasse, the bottom lines are what determines the final push. Might only determine a couple games in a finals run, but it'll be those games that determine who advances.
    Just to take the Hawks during their heyday since they're my team but you can use similar examples for any cup winner. They had Bickell and Bolland in 2013, Saad and Shaw in 2015 (among others like Teravainen and Vermette). Role players for the most part, but everyone knew their names and can name at least one "big goal" they were apart of. When you got that lurking beyond Toews, Kane, Hossa and Sharp--who themselves came in clutch often enough--that's deadly. Leafs aren't deadly, they're an amalgamation of good players who can MAYBE beat you in a best of 7, IF everything goes their way (like Tampa deciding to collapse in 2023 as they did in those games). That's not built for success.
    This isn't to say a team can't win while being top heavy. Oilers I see as a similar team, but their players play well as a team. That gets them to the 2nd round regularly and (once) in the 3rd. Oilers live and die by their team philosophy. Leafs don't have a team philosophy though, just a bunch of players that you hope can win on their talents, and in the playoffs they rarely do.

    • @colecolettecole
      @colecolettecole 9 месяцев назад +8

      totally agree ~ my sentiments exactly ~ well said ~

    • @whoshotashleybabbitt4924
      @whoshotashleybabbitt4924 9 месяцев назад +1

      Vermette was totally worth that first round pick.

    • @TheBalls2thewalls
      @TheBalls2thewalls 9 месяцев назад +2

      Very well put. That is why my team, the habs, were able to come back and beat them, because while MTL lacks the talent of top heavy teams, they play a hard grinder game in the playoffs. It's also how we beat Boston a few times in the 2000s we had no business winning. Team philosophy, well put.
      Maybe the Leafs news new management and a sort of culture change, allowing real passionate fans to buy tickets at lower prices. Make it a fun atmosphere to play there. Look at MTL, it's always a party, that has to come to marketing and PR

    • @danialholland784
      @danialholland784 8 месяцев назад +3

      Yup. Bolland was a 3rd line center who blew up the Canucks almost by himself in the playoffs.

    • @BasePuma4007
      @BasePuma4007 8 месяцев назад +2

      A lot of it was the versatility of a lot of those core players. Toews, Sharp, Hossa, Saad, those guys were very dependable when not possessing the puck on defense. Kane was the only one that wasn't great on defense, but his takents made up for that. No bottom 6 players in that era on the blackhawks would ever get close to dressing if they didn't defend well, regardless of which one of the 3 cup winning teams from that era you choose from. Toronto on the other hand has a lot of offensively gifted players llsimilar to Patrick Kane, that suck playing defense, and a bunch of depth that isn't dependable offensively or defensively.
      The blackhawks also had a top D-man (Duncan Keith) that could play 25-30 minutes a night, and defend really well on the PK need be, while also quarerbacking the PP really well. After Keith, they had a top 4 of really solid, defensively responsible, puck moving defenseman. Toronto's D-core is awful in comparison to most cup winning squads.
      Other cup winning teams of the last number of years can be described that way, whether you're talking about Vegas, Colorado, Tampa, or St Louis.

  • @stefaniverson2739
    @stefaniverson2739 9 месяцев назад +65

    MacKinnon after elimination (before he got his cup): “I haven’t done S*** in this league.”
    Draisaitl after elimination: “It’s cup or bust”
    The core four after elimination:
    “I think we’re right there” “it’s not the core that’s the problem” basically begging please don’t break us up. It’s not our fault! They don’t have that competitive fire and they’ll never get it done with this group because of it.

    • @brandonflooren5373
      @brandonflooren5373 8 месяцев назад +8

      They just need a few more million each that’ll help!!!

    • @norklas
      @norklas 8 месяцев назад +6

      *Wins one series in like 8 years*
      Marner: “We’re basically thought of as gods here.”

    • @tromedl
      @tromedl 8 месяцев назад +1

      It sounds like they lack the drive.

    • @BobbyBoucher228
      @BobbyBoucher228 7 месяцев назад

      @@brandonflooren5373I’m sure the Leafs front office would hire you with that mentality. Congratulations your about to be Kyle Dubas 2.0.

  • @connyjohnson855
    @connyjohnson855 9 месяцев назад +8

    A new THG video always makes me happy 👍Thank you Shannon!

  • @TheKornheaD
    @TheKornheaD 9 месяцев назад +24

    best hockey content on yt, thanks man

  • @Zazskatchenews
    @Zazskatchenews 9 месяцев назад +5

    I’m telling everyone I know that you are one of the best hockey channel out there. Thabk you for all the hard work. Great video!

  • @McSomething15
    @McSomething15 9 месяцев назад +49

    Unfortunately Toronto is either gonna have to "lose" a trade to make some moves, or they have to ride out some contracts.

    • @mattmackie9298
      @mattmackie9298 9 месяцев назад +1

      Imo as a non-leaf fan, any trade involving Marner you cannot lose. He only has one year left and you’re not going to renew him anyways. You likely make the playoffs without him (only situation where I see them losing the trade is missing) and you free up all that cap to actually get someone. Problem is, is finding a team he’s okay with going to and can afford him. How many teams have the assets to trade for Marner (not picks, not prospects, win now kinda guys) and Marner is also willing to join. Probably only a handful. Going to be interesting to see where he goes.

    • @100Thebobchannel
      @100Thebobchannel 9 месяцев назад

      ​@mattmackie9298 reports already say multiple teams are inquiring about Marner and picks and prospects are not the end of the world. Mostly what leafs need is cap space and teams trading for him will only have to pay him $750,000. They will just have to manage the cap space

    • @mattmackie9298
      @mattmackie9298 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@100Thebobchannel NMC complicates things though. He’ll get control over his destination and finding a team that he’s okay with and can afford the cap hit is definitely the biggest obstacle. It’s not about what he’s worth, teams can offer whatever they want but if he says no it’s dead on arrival.

    • @bskinny9009
      @bskinny9009 9 месяцев назад

      Wow, someone spelled lose the right way.

    • @korbendallas7181
      @korbendallas7181 8 месяцев назад +1

      None of them want to admit they were wrong and made terrible decisions.... things won't change until one more playoff...

  • @GabbyBabby-pp1lx
    @GabbyBabby-pp1lx 9 месяцев назад +3

    Glad you're finally catching on.... been saying this for a long time now, and people kept saying give it more time.

    • @Ryan-yi5ro
      @Ryan-yi5ro 9 месяцев назад +1

      Just need more time. Maybe coach number 28 will help?

    • @SaunaPerkele_5
      @SaunaPerkele_5 9 месяцев назад +1

      Don't give up. It will work. Trust the process. Give it just more time.

    • @cringle7413
      @cringle7413 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@SaunaPerkele_5 I'll stick to football for the next two years 😊

    • @pomerlain8924
      @pomerlain8924 8 месяцев назад +1

      You got people still saying give them more time. They haven't had a proper coach yet. Some people are deluded into thinking that Marner is not a problem in the playoffs. They think him having 50 points in 57 games is good. And really, for a guy making $10.93M, that's below average. He should be well over a point a game. McDavid has 96 points in 60 playoff games. Leon Draisaitl has 100 points in 60 playoff games. MacKinnon has 48 goals and 114 points in 88 playoff games.
      Marner is getting paid like they are, even more than Draisaitl, and he's hasn't come close to producing at the rate those 3 are. But "you can't trade a talent as good as Marner because you'll never be able to replace what he does."

  • @DannOfSteel
    @DannOfSteel 9 месяцев назад +32

    Dom’s article in The Athletic was pretty interesting. It makes sense that the risk-averse mindset would contradict the strengths of the team’s identity.

    • @habinations
      @habinations 9 месяцев назад

      what does that mean?

    • @GoodMenstruationAttitude
      @GoodMenstruationAttitude 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@habinations more athletic "only offense matters get more 115 lb players go go go" bullshit 🤣

    • @gregorybiestek3431
      @gregorybiestek3431 9 месяцев назад +1

      You know what would be super Leafy? Toronto gets rid of Marner & Taveras, they both do extremely well on other teams, and the Maple Leafs continue to suck in future playoffs because a certain someone who stays behind only cares about his paycheck and his regular season records.

    • @DannOfSteel
      @DannOfSteel 9 месяцев назад

      @@habinations select quotes:
      “While McDavid and MacKinnon are out there thriving in the playoffs because they assert their tempo, Toronto’s top duo seems to prefer to accept whatever tempo their opponent throws at them instead in the name of responsible defending. It’s the distinction between focusing on your own arsenal rather than obsessing over what’s on the other side of the fence. While the percentages may be similar, the actual differences are, well, the difference.”
      “Instead, they made sacrifices at the altar of “defense wins championships” - an unworthy mantra for a pair of players with otherworldly offensive ability.
      Safe is death, and in this case, it’s the death of what should be elite offense. Some of the negative offensive change is a result of continuously struggling on the power play, too, but even that feels like a result of taking fewer risks and being far too predictable.”
      “This change in playing style feels like the smoking gun of everything wrong with the last decade of Leafs hockey. You can take Mike Babcock away from the Leafs, but everything the team has done since feels to have been in servitude of the Babcockian way where a 1-0 win playing The Right Way somehow feels better than a 6-3 win with a couple of defensive breakdowns.”

    • @rmyoung87
      @rmyoung87 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@GoodMenstruationAttitude Pretty sure just about every cup winner in the last 10 or so years had at least 2 "go-to" defensemen who could either help the offense or stop the puck when you need them to. Leafs got Reilly and... who? Yeah this year it wasn't really defense that did them in but generally great teams have key scoring generated from their blue line as well (even if only as a secondary assist, or making a key pick off that creates an odd man rush).

  • @CreamyWheat
    @CreamyWheat 9 месяцев назад +122

    It’s pretty simple I think tbh. Marner and Tavares make too much money and they lack depth. Plus they’re cursed with injuries. Not easy to fix but also not super complicated.

    • @darthvader3742
      @darthvader3742 9 месяцев назад +4

      Exactly. What they need to do is get some more depth scoring and fix the blue line, and get someone to back up Woll.

    • @jeremytaft8247
      @jeremytaft8247 9 месяцев назад +16

      Seems more like they just an overrated group of stars who get out scored bye their “lack of depth” other teams stars make big plays in big moments. Leafs just hear crickets from their stars in those moments.

    • @people3865
      @people3865 9 месяцев назад +3

      JT isn't going anywhere, nor does he need to. He signs a team friendly deal and becomes 3C or moves to the wing.

    • @Neon002121
      @Neon002121 9 месяцев назад +4

      I agree it’s a simple problem, but because those contracts are going to be so miserable to move, it’s going to be really hard to fix.

    • @michaelb4590
      @michaelb4590 9 месяцев назад +5

      Cursed with injuries ??? That’s bullshit

  • @cYYAN88
    @cYYAN88 9 месяцев назад +161

    Leafs blaming Andersen has been such an easy cop out. What is it with Toronto and always blaming their goalies? Its not just the fans, its also the media up there. Its insane.

    • @thenewpollution2
      @thenewpollution2 9 месяцев назад +30

      It’s not just Toronto my friend. I’m a Bruins fan and the amount of blame Rask got for not “winning them” the cup in 2013 and 2019 is insane. However, you would never hear any other fans cite Rask as the reason they lost, and rightfully so. It doesn’t matter how elite your goaltender is, they get blamed if the team loses.

    • @adamjosey1543
      @adamjosey1543 9 месяцев назад +5

      Nobody's blaming Woll. In fact it's been Marner who's been getting the blame over the past few seasons for being a pushover. "push where there's mush" and Marner is mush.

    • @Asp_nn
      @Asp_nn 9 месяцев назад +1

      As a leafs fan I love Woll and Samsonove(I have no clue how to spell his name) 🤣

    • @Machine3499
      @Machine3499 9 месяцев назад +3

      Ugh, Andersen defenders. Like you're not allowed to say Andersen is not good in the playoffs. There is nothing wrong with saying, they were never gonna win anything with him and say he wasn't the sole reason.

    • @davidmollenhauer7580
      @davidmollenhauer7580 9 месяцев назад +4

      Refereeing is too often blamed for losses by the Toronto media.

  • @ryannarine5309
    @ryannarine5309 9 месяцев назад +4

    Hit the nail right on the head with this one

  • @dmwehrer7094
    @dmwehrer7094 9 месяцев назад +5

    Well played, sir .. well played

  • @hughjass1044
    @hughjass1044 9 месяцев назад +11

    You're right that the team has to change course but unfortunately, they have proven to be one of, if not the, most unwilling and unable to change teams in the league and maybe even in all of sports.
    Sid Seixeiro is not a person who I usually respect enough to quote but his rant on BT the other morning was spot on! There is a certain culture in Toronto where sports figures are almost deified and as a result, get quite comfortable and lack any real drive to do the dirty work to succeed.
    There is a distinct lack of accountability for management across all of Toronto's teams with few if any consequences for failure. Most observers will say that both the Blue Jays and the Raptors should have had much more success over the years than they've had, and they would have if ownership cared enough to make management answer for their lack of results.
    There's one more thing I'll say; if fans are going to continue to drop dump truck loads of cash at the doors of Toronto sports teams and not demand better for their investment, they WON'T get it! Harold Ballard even said so himself in the old days - "People will buy tickets no matter what so why should I care how poor the team is?"

  • @djd2819
    @djd2819 9 месяцев назад +2

    Wow, when THG lays enumerates the feeble streaks (eg. not finishing first in the league since 1963), it really hits home.

  • @almVancouver
    @almVancouver 8 месяцев назад

    Thank you. I'm beyond impressed with your knowledge and insights. You didn't sell out. The world needs more like you.

  • @JohnWeichel
    @JohnWeichel 9 месяцев назад +105

    Brendan shanahan next

    • @chrisbelos2834
      @chrisbelos2834 9 месяцев назад +11

      the best reason i'd fire Shanahan is for willing to re-hire Dubas last year and firing him after a press conference he didn't like.

    • @DanielC__
      @DanielC__ 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@chrisbelos2834 No $hite, that was bad optics for Shanahan.

    • @quincee3376
      @quincee3376 9 месяцев назад +2

      Please.

  • @user-xn5me8iz7c
    @user-xn5me8iz7c 9 месяцев назад +16

    Shannon we need a mock draft!!!

    • @defaultuser1447
      @defaultuser1447 9 месяцев назад

      Way too early for that. There are deals yet to be made. He does it right before the real thing.

    • @Art29Art29
      @Art29Art29 9 месяцев назад

      He basically does it when doing the prospect videos, he wears jersey of the team he thinks might draft the player.

  • @eerokinos6213
    @eerokinos6213 9 месяцев назад +46

    I can imagine Marner getting traded and then scoring a series clinching goal against the Leafs next year.

    • @larrygrassinger2819
      @larrygrassinger2819 9 месяцев назад +5

      That won't happen, because he would (almost certainly) be moving to the western conference (if anybody is stupid enough to take him).

    • @Ryan-yi5ro
      @Ryan-yi5ro 9 месяцев назад +4

      More importantly it would never happen with the Leafs making the finals.

    • @huey166
      @huey166 9 месяцев назад +1

      How could anyone imagine Marner scoring a clinching goal 😂😂😂

    • @yukoncorneliusthelegendhim9751
      @yukoncorneliusthelegendhim9751 9 месяцев назад

      marner is going to get traded to a bottom feeding team
      he wont be in the playoffs next year if he's traded

    • @gabrielrockman
      @gabrielrockman 9 месяцев назад +1

      I could see the Capitals trading for Marner and making the playoffs as a wild card and knocking out Toronto in the first round next season.
      As a Capitals fan, I'd be happy to trade Jensen or Van Riemsdyk (but not Fehervary or Sandin) for Marner.

  • @mcal9854
    @mcal9854 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for how detailed you are Shannon!

  • @QuazarCyclone99
    @QuazarCyclone99 9 месяцев назад +12

    The problem with toronto is Shanahan the minute dubas hinted at breaking up the core 4 Shanahan fired him.

  • @MikeWh0
    @MikeWh0 9 месяцев назад +1

    Always the best content, Ty for the in depth discussion 🤝

  • @J_Aaron_L
    @J_Aaron_L 9 месяцев назад +5

    A future Mitch Marner assist on a Matvei Michkov goal sounds fun to me.

  • @RichardTavilla
    @RichardTavilla 9 месяцев назад +7

    I’m a Bruins fan and even I’m like jeez their fans deserve better

    • @cringle7413
      @cringle7413 8 месяцев назад

      Haha we have better, it's called your favorite NFL team 😅

  • @stephenstill9487
    @stephenstill9487 9 месяцев назад +2

    Good analysis that too much dough goes to core 4. Common knowledge but well said here compared to other teams

  • @TheLegend21D
    @TheLegend21D 9 месяцев назад +1

    This was a great straight forward video

  • @mizer9510
    @mizer9510 9 месяцев назад +14

    The fact that Matthews and McDavid haven't won a cup yet just goes to show that you need a well balanced team and a 60 goal scorer does not guarantee success.

    • @css666
      @css666 9 месяцев назад +3

      Absolutely. And they haven't really been close either. Toronto has won 1 playoff series with this group. Edmonton, despite getting to the conference finals 2 years ago, was still 8 wins away from a cup (since they were swept by Colorado). Like you said - well balanced & depth seems to be the keys to success.

  • @CacheTaFace2
    @CacheTaFace2 9 месяцев назад

    I love watching these year after year man

  • @pushstartsports1697
    @pushstartsports1697 9 месяцев назад +1

    Love the content! Keep up the good work. I'm a leaf fan sadly lol

  • @TheDolfanar
    @TheDolfanar 9 месяцев назад +17

    The obvious issues are the dollars locked into the core four… but what do you do? Tavares is untradeable at that cap hit and that contract solves itself at the end of next season. Matthews and Willy are signed long term and no one in TO wants to see them gone…
    So everyone is pointing at Marner… who has a NMC. The Leafs will have no leverage in any deal… are Leafs fans ready to see him leave for a major downgrade?
    I’m calling it, if Marner goes the leafs go half way the way the Flames went post Goudreau/Tkachuk departure…

    • @gregorybiestek3431
      @gregorybiestek3431 9 месяцев назад +4

      You know what would be super Leafy? Toronto gets rid of Marner & Taveras, they both do extremely well on other teams, and the Maple Leafs continue to suck in future playoffs because a certain someone who stays behind only cares about his paycheck and his regular season records. The Leafs only win when that someone decides he wants to play with grit.

    • @ianhall6614
      @ianhall6614 9 месяцев назад +1

      That’s the thing, just by complete circumstance, their marginally best playoff performer is the only one contract and performance wise that is moveable. It’s a shit sandwich either way you look at it and Toronto is going to have to make a painful decision soon or later. Even if they clean out upper management, the new brain trust will have to deal with the same ailment.

    • @mikepiccolo32
      @mikepiccolo32 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@gregorybiestek3431no

  • @xtrickster6556
    @xtrickster6556 9 месяцев назад +8

    They NEED a 1A goalie and a 1A defenseman

  • @CrimsonicStorm
    @CrimsonicStorm 9 месяцев назад +28

    I have a real sinking feeling that the only change will be Keefe getting fired.
    I hope Im wrong, I really do, but if Shanahan wouldnt change it last year, why would he change it now? I just have zero confidence in that, however I would do anything to be wrong. Marner just doesnt have "it".

    • @people3865
      @people3865 9 месяцев назад +8

      Nope. That's exactly what will happen. I don't think they have much choice though. Dubas gave out way too many bad contracts

    • @gregorybiestek3431
      @gregorybiestek3431 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@people3865 Unless Shanahan is let go as well, nothing will change. The soft core players will just go cry to Brenden that the new coach is mean to them & he will stop it & force the coach to backtrack just like he did numerous times to Keefe.

    • @people3865
      @people3865 9 месяцев назад

      @@gregorybiestek3431 I agree, but Shannt won't go. He makes to many good moves off ice.

    • @teapea8184
      @teapea8184 9 месяцев назад +4

      And people wonder why it didn't work. Right now without trades, they have 18M left next year with basically needing to sign a full 2nd line, top 2 defenseman, 2 top 4 defensemen and a goalie. Good luck if you don't get rid of at least one of the "core four".

    • @gregorybiestek3431
      @gregorybiestek3431 9 месяцев назад

      @@teapea8184 Instead of trades, the gutsy move that would provide instant results is just buy-out Marner & Taveras, get $11 immediately, and go shopping for decent players. Yes Toronto would struggle to win in the regular season, maybe get the 2nd wildcard, but they could be built to actually win in the playoffs. Unfortunately Leaf fans would NEVER stand for anything like that. They want lots of winning all the time in the regular season plus playoffs. They are delusional.

  • @anthonym6078
    @anthonym6078 9 месяцев назад +4

    It’s wild that 6 years later the results are still the same. I’m an Avs fan so I’m indifferent to the Leafs success, but it’s super interesting to watch the entire process. In my opinion, they need to get rid of one of the core 4 contracts and spend that money on only defenseman as that seems to consistently be their weak spot. Will be interesting to see what other moves they make this offseason.

    • @wandregisel6385
      @wandregisel6385 9 месяцев назад +1

      that's what many of us have thought for quite a while....
      Though it should also be mentioned that Freddy was the closest thing we've had to a consistent goalie in this era

  • @davidlinehat4657
    @davidlinehat4657 9 месяцев назад +1

    They remind me so much of my Caps between 2009-2017.

    • @cringle7413
      @cringle7413 8 месяцев назад +1

      Not for me, those caps won Pres trophies and actual playoff rounds

    • @pomerlain8924
      @pomerlain8924 8 месяцев назад

      The Caps did win playoff series during that period, and were the best team in the league 3 times. Their main issue was that they couldn't seem to solve the Penguins or the Rangers in the second round.

  • @mattstrass6144
    @mattstrass6144 9 месяцев назад

    10/10- no notes. I think you nailed every part of this conundrum

  • @gretzkey66
    @gretzkey66 9 месяцев назад +6

    This is from a reddit post i made the other day: "I love reading people state which "core 4" they'd get rid of. No one can admit that financial structure of this team is broken, and all 4 of them are to blame. None of them deserve a much as they're making.
    The "core 4" don't possess "core foundational characteristics" that make up a winning culture, including leadership and hard work. When it came down to brass tax, 2 of the core sat out for a collective 6/7 games in the 1st round. When all 4 were on the ice, a total of 1 goal was scored. So while everybody showed up, that's all they did - they showed up.
    With 40-50% of their salary cap going to these 4 players, their inability to either individually produce at a higher rate or to lead the players around them to generate higher production is financially inexcusable.
    Throw on Morgan Reilly and it's basically a core 5. Let me just say that he makes nearly as much as Victor Hedman 🙉🤣 the two are not even comparable"

    • @CC-pj7iy
      @CC-pj7iy 8 месяцев назад

      *tacks

    • @BobbyBoucher228
      @BobbyBoucher228 7 месяцев назад +2

      It’s poor roster construction for the Leafs and it’s been kinda a running joke here in St. Louis that hiring a coach like Berube is going to solve any of their problems. Berube was a highly effective coach with the defensive juggernaut of a team he had in 2019 and 2020 in St. Louis and he struggled with the Blues when they weren’t a defensive juggernaut from 2021 till when he was fired. Point being the Leafs are nowhere close to the complete monster of a roster that the Blues had during their cup window or even when they were still competitive in Berube’s final years. That’s why we find it so funny that the Leafs organization and their fans believe that with half a team that the Leafs will be able to replicate the Blues success with Berube now their coach. It will be another rude awakening when nothing changes for the Leafs and having a good coach means nothing if there isn’t enough talent up and down the roster for said coach to work with.

  • @tbell61
    @tbell61 9 месяцев назад +1

    Excellent analysis.

  • @dbassman27
    @dbassman27 9 месяцев назад +2

    Well done THG.

  • @JustBrowsing777
    @JustBrowsing777 9 месяцев назад +9

    I think Marner and Tavares made more than their worth in past seasons. It cost the team the chance to sign a better goalie and improve their blueline. There's more to it of course but those are my main points.

    • @geraldjohnson7435
      @geraldjohnson7435 9 месяцев назад +3

      Trade ghost Matthews then you can actually thrive as a team... Sure he's good in the regular season but he is a complete ghost when it comes to the playoffs

  • @SleepWalker88
    @SleepWalker88 9 месяцев назад +8

    It’s almost like when your glass cannon doesn’t fire you don’t win.

  • @RetroHondo67
    @RetroHondo67 9 месяцев назад +3

    Though Marner and Tavares cap hits are too high. On July 1st they both get large bonuses paid that are about 90% of their salary for next season. So as of July 1st the actual cash for their salary is less than a million. They will likely have to eat cap to trade to a contender who is at the cap, but any budget teams will likely see it as a bonus since they will be able to get to floor without spending the actual money. They both likely would not go to that type of team so the Leafs will eat some cap if they are traded but I severely doubt there will need to be sweeteners because both are still very good and in Marners case elite talents who can help any hockey club. Toronto likely eats 25% of the cap and will end up paying out 20 millions dollars in bonuses for next season but both are very tradeable with only the no move complicating things as I am sure they will not want to go to certain teams.

  • @MrRoundb
    @MrRoundb 9 месяцев назад +3

    I’m not going to comment on right or wrong, but I love the analysis

  • @Neon002121
    @Neon002121 9 месяцев назад +18

    I really agree with your analysis. I don’t think any of the core 4 are bad players… and the Leafs are undeniably a good team. The problem is that probably 20 other teams are good and have some good players. The teams that win the Cup are great and usually have a roster that works better on the ice than on paper: the Leafs have a lot going, but there’s some x-factors that are clearly missing.

    • @gregorybiestek3431
      @gregorybiestek3431 9 месяцев назад +1

      The greatest goalie in world can't stop pucks when you have a bunch of left-overs & has-beens as defensemen. But that's what Toronto has had for years since they decided to put all their cap space in just a few forwards. The Maple Leafs are all regular season supers and playoff pushover puppies. Getting rid of Marner will not change anything as long as a certain someone who wears 34 only cares about his paycheck and his regular season records. Only when he wants to play with grit will the Leafs win.

    • @donaldpaluga
      @donaldpaluga 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@GospelTestimonyHow many O'Brien Trophies has Toronto won since Kawhi left?

    • @crotalon
      @crotalon 9 месяцев назад

      ​@donaldpaluga how many wouod they have won with DeRozan? Probably 1 less than they got

    • @Jimi86
      @Jimi86 9 месяцев назад

      Yea. Decent to good team, but all contenders knows how to shut them down in a 7 game series. They're not even competetative enough to compete for top 4 in the east.

    • @gregorybiestek3431
      @gregorybiestek3431 9 месяцев назад

      @@GospelTestimony Getting rid of one or two of the core is a start, but not will never solve anything unless those that remain play with grit. Right now the Leafs lose when 4 players are targeted. It won't help if they have fewer core players as long as they ignore defense. Unfortunately Toronto fans aren't willing to stand for regular season mediocrity in order to have playoff success. They are stuck on pre-cap buy the best of everybody teams.

  • @mikeamaral8256
    @mikeamaral8256 9 месяцев назад +1

    I agree they need a number 1, 30 minute all situational Dman. Plus a true number 1 goalie.

  • @davidsturges3295
    @davidsturges3295 8 месяцев назад

    As a Tampa Bay fan I can tell you that stamkos taking a team-friendly deal has done wonders for the organization in their ability to continuously be in the running. I'm just for that he deserves to remain a bolt for the rest of his career.

  • @bdonaghu
    @bdonaghu 9 месяцев назад +10

    *grabs popcorn 🍿

  • @elwizschold
    @elwizschold 9 месяцев назад +4

    Also, by comparison: McDavid has played 55 games in the playoffs, has 88 points. So while none of the core 4 is at a point-per-game, McDavid is over an assist per game while also having scored 30 goals.

    • @chevelle1
      @chevelle1 8 месяцев назад

      McDavid (along with other playoff teams’ top players who have went deep) has tenacity and balls though. He’s willing to chip and chase if needed…playoff type hockey where often times it hurts and it’s hard. Core 4 (especially Marner) refuse to play that way. Call it tough, call it tenacity, call it testosterone, whatever….Nylander is closest, but those core 4 guys, especially Marner, won’t do it. He thinks he can dance around the neutral zone with time and space to backhand toe drag drop pass or whatever like it’s February in San Jose. Instead of gaining the red line and chipping it in and go to work. I’ve actually seen Mathews turn aside to get out of the way of a shot against, instead of sacrificing himself for his team. It was the epitome of the core 4’s entitled, celebrity, fashion magazine culture.

    • @pomerlain8924
      @pomerlain8924 8 месяцев назад +1

      McDavid has now played 3 more playoff games than Marner. He has 96 points in 60 games. Leon Draisaitl has also played 60 playoff games, and he has 100 points. Marner has 50 points in 57 games. So all these people talking about how he produces in the playoffs have the wool pulled over their eyes. He's making $10.93M and he's not even a point a game player in the playoffs.

  • @blakeythebendert114
    @blakeythebendert114 9 месяцев назад +16

    Trade Marner or Tavares for a 7th D and can of beans if you have too. The 11 million to spend is far more important

  • @bucketophil
    @bucketophil 8 месяцев назад +2

    Everyone talks about the money spent on those 4 guys and not having enough around them. That is NOT the problem. The depth players especially this year were enough for them to win. The playoff problem is (and always has been) that the core 4 do not produce in the playoffs. If they just scored even half of what they do in the regular season they would have had a lot more rounds won than they have. The third and fourth lines this year were great defensively. If the core 4 had averaged 3 goals per game on the regular they would still be playing. Stop complaining about the goaltending. Expecting the goalie to keep under 2 goals every game just so they can win isn’t realistic for any team in this league. No one would complain about half the cap spent on those 4 guys if they would just produce.

  • @davkatjenn
    @davkatjenn 8 месяцев назад

    One of the things that I loved about the Dallas Stars this year was that they had eight guys with 20+ goals. They did not have a 40 goal scorer. They had three lines that could score and their fourth line was also pretty darned good at scoring, and they were very good at scoring short-handed goals. Yeah, from the basic fan level it is really great with a guy like Mathews who can score 69 goals for a team, but when he isn't on the ice it's time to go the snack bar. I would much rather have a team like the Stars with scoring all over and on every line. That was the Avalanches problem against the Stars in that they did not have three lines that could score for them and when they lost Nichushkin they were down to four guys who could score. That was their weakness.

  • @christopherkuzek9816
    @christopherkuzek9816 9 месяцев назад +1

    great look brother

  • @CS58420
    @CS58420 8 месяцев назад +5

    Been saying it since they signed Tavares. Can't spend that much money on 4 forwards and win a cup. Haven't even won more than a single round. Proofs in the puddin

    • @CD-tk2oc
      @CD-tk2oc 6 месяцев назад

      Lmao thats like saying you can't win a cup with mcdavid since he hasn't done it yet. What asinine logic.

    • @CS58420
      @CS58420 6 месяцев назад

      @CD-tk2oc Edmonton has won 7 rounds with McDavid, appearing in a conference final and stanley cup final that went to 7 games. With better cap management they probably would have had more success. To be fair they did pay a d-man 10.4 who isn't living up to his salary so just spending money on different positions isn't the be all end all. The players you spend big on have to deliver results but generally it's really hard to win without good cap management. Toronto isn't currently comparable to Edmonton at all. 1 single round is absolutely abysmal. Once Johnny T is gone and with the cap going up, they can spend some money on goaltending and defence so maybe they will have a real shot if they get players who can deliver when it counts.

  • @jjmarz1001
    @jjmarz1001 9 месяцев назад +1

    Shannon makes more sense than the Maple Leafs management over the past eight years.

  • @johnnyhalf6558
    @johnnyhalf6558 8 месяцев назад +1

    Fantastic " Look at what's ailing Toronto ! Now are they going to Fix it ??

  • @mattyhfx
    @mattyhfx 9 месяцев назад +1

    2021 will always be one of my all-time fav series. Never change, Toronto.

  • @tobiasohlssonbolin7870
    @tobiasohlssonbolin7870 9 месяцев назад +23

    They should never have gotten Tavares in the first place

    • @TimHornblower
      @TimHornblower 8 месяцев назад +1

      Totally agree; they could have beefed up their defense with that money.

  • @martinperry5072
    @martinperry5072 9 месяцев назад +2

    It doesn't matter what Leaf management does. The Harold Ballard curse will thwart anything they do, since the curse affects management most of all.

    • @redlion45
      @redlion45 8 месяцев назад

      This is hockey, not Harry Potter.

  • @dpause10
    @dpause10 9 месяцев назад +2

    To me the Kadri-Barrie trade exemplifies the poor roster building the Maple Leafs have suffered from for all these years. In 2019, they gave up Kadri, a former 7th overall pick, to acquire Tyson Barrie along with Alexander Kerfoot. Due to the Maple Leafs' stacked offense, Kadri was only playing on the third line while Barrie was the best producer on the Avalanche's blue line. Kerfoot was a great addition since he was the exactly the type of depth forward the Maple Leafs needed instead of Kadri.
    So in the short term, it seemed like a good deal. But fast forward one year with Barrie exiting through free agency, all you were left with is Kerfoot for Kadri while the hole on defense remained as gaping as before.
    In the meantime, Kadri ultimately became a key piece of the Avalanche's dominant 2022 Stanley Cup run, not only filling that all important 2C position (that was originally left open when Duchene was traded), but also contributing with massive performances both against the Blues and the Lightning in the finals.

    • @BasePuma4007
      @BasePuma4007 8 месяцев назад

      That Colorado team was unstoppable and Kadri was a big reason why. He's also been BY FAR the best player on the Flames the last two years.

  • @christhornycroft3686
    @christhornycroft3686 9 месяцев назад +18

    One of the things the Cap era has done is make building a Cup winner a lot more difficult. The Canada vs US pressures aside, the cap hasn't changed the fact that top players will still get their money and those salaries have continued to go up exponentially regardless. If you're not careful as a GM, you could find yourself with a really top-heavy team. One of the reasons the Bruins have stayed competitive and a relative contender for so long is that they have never really had a "superstar" player. They've had very good players, but rather than having the McDavids of the world, they had Bergeron and Krejci, guys who were excellent at both ends of the ice, but also commanded significantly less in cap money. It's pretty hard to put together a complete, hardworking team when you have players like Matthews, Marner and Tavares eating into half your cap space. If those guys don't show up in the playoffs, you're in a lot of trouble. The problem is that guys like Bergeron and Krejci were hardworking players who actually had to outwork the opposition every night to be successful, which proves that having the most talented players doesn't always guarantee success if those players rely solely on that talent.

    • @anthonym6078
      @anthonym6078 9 месяцев назад +4

      Yup, the old saying “hard work beats talent when talent refuses to work hard” comes to mind when i think of this Leafs team

    • @OldRustySteele
      @OldRustySteele 9 месяцев назад +3

      Excellent points, Chris. You can also put the 2019 StL Blues Cup winner in that category. No top superstar (Tarasenko and Pietrangelo aren’t quite superstars IMO), but 2 solid forward lines and their 3rd and 4th lines were deep and played heroically.
      The other key was a big, mobile D-corps. Most were over 6’2”.
      Plus Binnington was on fire.
      So, to me that’s the model, rather than having 3-4 superstars and “a bunch of other guys”.

    • @ameliedewitte
      @ameliedewitte 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@OldRustySteelesounds like what our canucks have atm!! ✌🏼🔥

    • @OldRustySteele
      @OldRustySteele 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@ameliedewitte Good luck Amelie! As a long-suffering Blues fan (until June 12, 2019 😃), I’m rooting for Vancouver. It’s time for you guys to hoist The Cup!

    • @ameliedewitte
      @ameliedewitte 9 месяцев назад

      Appreciate it!! Was defs rooting for the blues during their cup run as well 🙏🏼🙏🏼

  • @omaha-mtl
    @omaha-mtl 8 месяцев назад +1

    Lol you probably would have told the red wings to move on from Yzerman too

  • @MikeSmith-vo2yt
    @MikeSmith-vo2yt 8 месяцев назад

    Big guy is the one you get the farm for,cheers

  • @Caennuck
    @Caennuck 8 месяцев назад +2

    I am not convinced that Kyle had any autonomy in the contract negotiations. It’s the Shanaplan.

  • @anubisgod23
    @anubisgod23 9 месяцев назад +2

    they need a proper stanley cup goalie and they need depth in the defense

    • @pomerlain8924
      @pomerlain8924 8 месяцев назад

      They needed that 6 years ago BEFORE they gave Tavares $11M a year. Now, they can't afford either of those things.

  • @SylvainCote-d3k
    @SylvainCote-d3k 9 месяцев назад +17

    The Toronto Maple Leafs are a remarkable team. With their speed and skill on the ice, the team is built for the regular season. they are not boring to watch but for the playoff, it's kind of funny the way you describe it historically

    • @jcoats5529
      @jcoats5529 9 месяцев назад +1

      What's remarkable about them? I'll wait.

    • @dangc8315
      @dangc8315 9 месяцев назад

      Read a little deeper. It’s easy to glean. The person said “built for the regular season”. Then says “but for the playoffs”. So when the person says “remarkable” they are pointing out how they are extremely good in the regular season and fall apart in the playoffs

  • @RattleheadVic73
    @RattleheadVic73 8 месяцев назад

    Well thanks for that! This is why I don’t look at time lines with this team! Now I feel even worse 😂

  • @grumpybogart
    @grumpybogart 9 месяцев назад +4

    Shannon made a business decision putting this video first. 😂 I agree, they need to trade at least one of them (not Matthews) and give Woll the net from the get go next year with more depth.

    • @gTuya11
      @gTuya11 9 месяцев назад

      I dont mind it. The first teams eliminated (Islanders, Lightning, Jets) are old news by now, why go in order of eliminated when this will get his name out there better?

    • @wandregisel6385
      @wandregisel6385 9 месяцев назад

      Problem with that last part is that Woll keeps getting injured

  • @chrisamphy
    @chrisamphy 9 месяцев назад +1

    I think the conversation with Marner starts on July 1st and you talk to him about where he thinks his next contract should be, if it starts with 11, you ask him where he would like to be traded and start working on a deal. If he's willing to come down to around 9.5 per, next year his money is down, Tavares money is down and salary cap goes up and you have the money to build a good team

  • @tigersharksvt
    @tigersharksvt 9 месяцев назад +2

    Just want to be clear. I’m a devils fan. Having said that. You are 100% right about the leaf’s construction with contracts. I’ve said it for a long time. And while the Devils have their own struggles. My number one fear has been that they too would give their players Toronto like contracts. Thankfully it hasn’t happened yet…
    PS…
    If the Devils go for Sheldon Keefe, I’ll sell my jerseys now.

    • @ianhall6614
      @ianhall6614 9 месяцев назад +2

      I would be hesitant too if I were you. Seems like the GM is on the hot seat though, hopefully you guys can figure it out.

    • @arlenstrauch
      @arlenstrauch 9 месяцев назад +2

      "Toronto like contracts" a new phrase is coined.

  • @Julian-pc8tu
    @Julian-pc8tu 9 месяцев назад

    Great video. I’m very curious to see what the leafs opening night roster looks like next season

  • @TelosBudo
    @TelosBudo 9 месяцев назад +1

    2021. Good times!

  • @mitchellhedden1978
    @mitchellhedden1978 9 месяцев назад +3

    That click bait hooked me hard.

  • @RJKYEG
    @RJKYEG 9 месяцев назад +1

    Leafs fans were pretty happy for the regular season.

  • @cliffbowls
    @cliffbowls 8 месяцев назад +1

    Morgan Reilly isn’t a step below makar he’s 3 steps below makar, which isn’t an insult because fox and Hughes are also a step below makar

  • @FoodFollow
    @FoodFollow 9 месяцев назад

    Well said! 🙌

  • @gameburn178
    @gameburn178 8 месяцев назад +1

    Every team needs to change. The question for Toronto is how much change and in what areas. I think getting rid of Tavares and his contract is the only thing I'd put on the essential list. I wouldn't dump any of their other stars with long-term contracts -- the cap is going up and the Leafs worked hard to negotiate these deals. Matthews and Nylander were injured or unavailable at times, as was Woll. They still almost won the series against Boston! I am not a Leafs follower so I may not feel the long frustration with this core, but I would not throw babies out with the bathwater on this. I think they are getting better and now cap space is coming.... a very small retool, not a massive rebuild is my feeling.

  • @shiektal
    @shiektal 9 месяцев назад +1

    As a canes fan - I don't feel nearly as bad after watching this

  • @somebody9112
    @somebody9112 8 месяцев назад

    you're right on that.

  • @leftcoaster67
    @leftcoaster67 8 месяцев назад

    When Dangle says the mix isn't right. You know it's time for a change.

  • @MikeHart72
    @MikeHart72 9 месяцев назад +1

    Toronto played very well without Mathews. Toronto needs a legitimate goalie. I would contact mediocre teams with a very strong goal tender and say something like….”Jimmy Jack, man he is great in net. What would it take to pull off a trade for him “.
    If their reply included Austin Matthews I would seriously consider making the move.

  • @GB-ob5zx
    @GB-ob5zx 9 месяцев назад

    18:30 we all remember that Marner’s 9.5 mil in Florida is the same as say 12 million in Ontario

  • @ericwilliams1845
    @ericwilliams1845 8 месяцев назад +1

    Trading marner for the right players (either a goalie upgrade or a combo of defensive upgrade and tandem goalie) and letting JT leave after next year would allow the leafs to continue to build and ice a team capable of playoffs. Eventually a mix will work. And with minten and Cowan as two really nice offensive pieces I think focus on defense and net via draft/trade/free agency has to be priority

  • @dbassman27
    @dbassman27 9 месяцев назад +1

    One of the depth issues relates to all of the players (like Kadri and Hyman) that were moved because they couldn't afford to keep them. Add to that all of the bad trades Dubas made, including all of the draft picks he squandered. Next year (2025), they don't pick until the 5th round! You need to be able to have good young players on entry level contracts.

  • @oldhab7890
    @oldhab7890 9 месяцев назад +19

    No as a totally neutral Habs fan I think they should run it back again. To paraphrase a former GM "They can and they will."
    Seriously defence has always been a problem name one of the teams they have played in the first round that feared their defensive group.

    • @steve8803
      @steve8803 9 месяцев назад +5

      They scored 12 goals in 7 games this year. The D and goaltending actually did well. The core forwards failed. 1 for 21 on the pp!!

    • @JamesCrosby87
      @JamesCrosby87 9 месяцев назад +1

      As a Leafs fan, they were so good defensively this year that they have a lot to build on for next year

  • @RJKYEG
    @RJKYEG 9 месяцев назад +1

    I am pining for a an NHL playoffs in which we get multiple Canadain franchises in the 3rd round. If the Sens and Habs could just shape up ...

  • @rubinadam3896
    @rubinadam3896 8 месяцев назад

    @4:55 that was pure roast 😆

  • @jackson2583
    @jackson2583 8 месяцев назад +1

    LMFAO tampa mentioned go bolts

  • @jonathanbrown8733
    @jonathanbrown8733 8 месяцев назад

    The things I’ve noticed in this era…we play one style and it’s not one that works well in the playoffs. The last 4 games of the Boston series we played a different style but it didn’t stick

  • @SomeNativeOfficial
    @SomeNativeOfficial 9 месяцев назад +2

    The Toronto script writers seems to have found what they like. Good, but not great, never to make a deep run because it still makes them money.

  • @kylejohansen689
    @kylejohansen689 9 месяцев назад +1

    This year they wouldn't have needed more depth scoring if the PP could have converted a few more. As much as the cap numbers are better for COL, you just can't compare the difference in performance between MacKinnon, Rantanen, Nichushkin, and Makar, and the Leafs core 4.

  • @johnpaulgeorgeandringo3559
    @johnpaulgeorgeandringo3559 8 месяцев назад +1

    Even if Marner signs for less with a no state tax team, it will balance itself out due to the higher taxes in Ontario.

  • @jamesmcmullen3283
    @jamesmcmullen3283 9 месяцев назад

    I'd love a video on players that left Toronto, then won a Stanley Cup with another team

    • @jacobdill4499
      @jacobdill4499 9 месяцев назад

      There are a handful on just the 2019 Blues roster.

  • @mariovaccarella6854
    @mariovaccarella6854 9 месяцев назад

    Great Video, as usual, Shannon - I'd like to get your view of the Mitch Marner situation. I think, that, it Logically flows that the firing of Sheldon Keefe & the changes would tend to be A Contradiction, because, if they make the changes, it's like the team saying that they didn't do the right thing & give him The Players that he needed to win, beyond The Regular Season. I think that the firing is to keep The Core Four together, at the very least, until The Deadline (Trade Deadline). Therefore, given the reasons mentioned, I see them keeping things as they are for nearly one more year (by the way, doesn't this seem like Deja Vu of what was the case in Calgary, with The Darryl Sutter situation - Brad Treliving as GM). Let me know what you think & if I got The Analogy right.

  • @Diamondback0006
    @Diamondback0006 9 месяцев назад +2

    I honestly don't know if this team can be fixed, they have so many holes trading Marner and letting Tavares' contract expire after next season probably won't fix them. Nobody seems to bring up that they suck at drafting. Their homegrown big 4 were all selected in the top 10 in the draft. Where is there Pavelski, Guentzel, Kucherov, or Point? Heck the Sharks top D-pairing for most of the 2010s was Vlasic and Braun. Vlasic was picked in the second round and Braun the 7th. The Maple Leafs haven't drafted anyone like that outside of the top 10. A big reason they can't support the core, is because they haven't really drafted any impact players outside of the first round. You can't do that in the salary cap era have success in the playoffs.

  • @luvslogistics1725
    @luvslogistics1725 9 месяцев назад +1

    Would you rather have 6-7 20 goal scorers or 3-4 50 goal scorers? Having 3-4 deep lines like Vegas did, wins championships.

  • @mossly9785
    @mossly9785 8 месяцев назад

    Leafs fan here - I agree with your assessment and I agree with your suggestion of what action they need to take (change philosophy, move off the core).
    My question for you is: do you think they can actually make the moves they need to make and end up with a competitive team?

  • @gsipp00
    @gsipp00 9 месяцев назад

    The other interesting thing about the Leafs last Stanley Cup in 1967 is that was the last year of the original six so they only had to win two rounds of the playoffs to win a Cup.

  • @andersbondensson2042
    @andersbondensson2042 9 месяцев назад +2

    Sooo… The Leafs are paying Tavares the same as Kreider and Shesterkin combined. That is just genius. (No wonder the rangers are good)