Pleb to Pro: How to Flat Hop
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- Опубликовано: 28 дек 2014
- Pleb to Pro: How to Series is a series of instructional videos from Amped Airsoft helping players from all walks of the game with questions they have regarding Airsoft! Stay tuned for more helpful info!
Episode 3 features an in-depth explanation on how to properly install a flat hop for your airsoft replica.
*Bucking*
Prometheus Purple (Used in video)
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Prometheus Blue Flat
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*Nubs*
FireFly Namazu (Used in Video)
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ORGA Dimension
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Roller Bar for Nub
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*Hop Up unit*
Prowin M4 (Used in video)
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Retro Arms M4 Unit
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Maxx Hop Unit
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Maxx Hop Unit with LED Tracer Element
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Orings to lock in hop unit:
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thanks as always for posting, I see how to make the flat hop now, however my guns are all rhop complete and I love it. next build I will test it out. still excited to see you all here in Mississippi in January. keep in touch!
I've really been hoping for this. Thanks!
I personally like the Maple leaf nubs, I use them in most of my AEGs. I use them either alone on a stock bucking that i cut the fin and bump off of or in conjunction with a maple leaf bucking which has the flat bump to match the nub. Air seal on the Maple leaf bucking is also good with the ribs.
would this work in a H&K UMP Elite
I love seeing this video right after starting to tech on my rifle with a prommy Blue
good stuff! Really helpful info since I am running this exact setup on my Polarstar :)
you guys are awesome..loving the 2 tippmanns i got from you guys. lauched a few videos of what i did to them plus game play. waiting to rag out my helmet but thats out of stock.
Thanks Bro! Glad you love your two tippys! Which color are you looking for? It appears we have everything but digital woodland atm. Looks like I need to get a restock of those. Every other one is in stock though. 8) Here is a direct link for reference: ampedairsoft.com/search.php?search_query=ragnar§ion=product
Let us know! 8)
Thanks!
Kurtis
Great video, I would suggest writing down the names of the parts in the description, kinda hard to know the exact names of stuff
Done and done! Parts list now in description! Thanks for the advice! -Kurtis
I installed a modified a maple leaf bucking into a flat hop bucking and installed a namazu flat hop nub. Worked great my WE M4 GBBR, but on my WE SCAR-L GBBR, I didn't have enough hop, had to add an F-key as a spacer between the nub and bucking. I know it's a derpy solution, but it worked.
hey, thank you for this video! helped me alot already.
just one question. you leave a little bit of rubber at one edge of the nub.
where is that for? is it important to point that longer part to beginning or to the end of the barrel? or is this just to have the right length of your nub? thanks alot already!
So most of these items are not in stock anywhere.. what are your direct replacements you would choose for the ones that are not in stock?
Just throwing this out as a suggestion G&G green buckings are also good I've never had an issue fitting one into any barrel or hop up and they perform great
The G&G Green buckings are definitely good as well. 8) At the time this was filmed (2014) we had not really carried them and they weren't as popular back then. Thanks for your input!
Great video guys! But I have a question, would the configuration of hop up, that you guys are running, work on a katana m4? And how do you tell if a certain hop up can work for a gun?
Thanks a lot, you guys seem to know your stuff.
I have a snow wolf barrett, and I want to flat hop it. It has an m150 spring and a madbull 6.01, so it's shooting very hot. I haven't chronoed it yet, but the previous owner said it was about 570 fps. I want to buy a PDI 6.05, and a prowin chamber, or a laylax neo strike chamber. Does the hardness of the bucking matter if you're flat hopping it? Should I flat hop a harder bucking for an AEG that's shooting this hot? What bucking would you recommend?
Thanks, great video.
Hey guys, great video. Just wondering what your second choice would be instead of the Firefly nub? It's just kind of expensive. Thanks
I used the prommy blue with an s-hopped barrel and it works great. Think it might work even better with a hard spacer.
Hi ! again my bucking got problem with the bb can go through it without stoping unless you push down the nut to hold it , if not the bb will come out from the barrel just like that , so I wonder why ?
Hey guys, informative video and all. I was going to purchase a tippmann. M4 and was wondering if I'm able to flat hop it, also what kind of Barrel would you recommend for it? Thanks!
hey so i have a kwa km4 ris would it work well in it? and do i need to get anything else with it or does it come with everything?
Great Video
I saw you guys at ballahack recently! Great work! Keep it up!
Hi, I am looking for my hop up chamber, and saw a hole in the upperside of it. Can I to close it? Can It maybe do a leak? It is an gray hop up unit G&G used in M4. Thanks!
Hey Justin. I was learning how to take out hopup and reinstall it in gun, just so I can learn ya know. I was having feeding and jam issues after the fact. Can the feeding and jam issues be because my spacer was to far forward? Does adjusting really cause stuff like that to happen? I have a polarstar fusion engine by the way. Thanks!
I used this Flat Hop Video as a guide for me to upgrade my Ares Amoeba AM-013.
This worked perfectly. The ProWin, Prommy purple bucking and namazu nub fits like a glove. Thanks for the info.
I want to do this exact Flat Hop upgrade on my KWA SR7. The problem is, a lot of parts are proprietary on this AEG. Is it possible to fit a prommy purple bucking with the namazu nub in the excisting hop up chamber of the KWA?
Really appreciate any tips and help!
Hi guys.
I have the Firefly bucking. Do I also need to remove the fins and ridge from the inside? Do I do this in the same way as my Promy?
Do you guys know the best nub to run with a modify xrange ive tried a promi flat blue i was really over hopping with it even with the tdc knob out of the the chamber on. 36 never tried it with .40 and higher, factory tti round nub, acted more like it should, but i have major curving issues, still on .36, and mapleleaf omega, that i still have slighly better curving with but still over hopping slightly .36 feeds consistently but curves too much, .40 feeds ok, with slightly better curving. . 45g curves way less but doesnt feed as well Vsr 10, tti TDC aa teflon cylinder, aa piston, modify ssx 6.03 inner barrel. Thanks
So I have two questions on the flat hop nub do you have to cut one side completely and leave one with a little bit material and for the bucking do you completely trim off the guide in that little nub that's on there
For a tippmann m4 with a tdc mod would I need a different nub or could I just cut down my bucking?
So if we have only a tight bore barrel we need to cut the ridges then put the bucking on inside out?
Would you recommend flat hopping the Tippman or just getting the Prommy purp bucking and the TDC drop in mod for the Tippman?
Quick question - I'm having issues with three different flat hop setups, all are hooking badly to the left after 40 ft. When used through an aeg they shoot fine. any ideas on how I can fix this for my HPA setups? I use a Wolverene Inferno
barrels: madbull black python 2x 363mm , 300mm
buckings: 2x madbull red , lonex
nub: namazu
units: 2x prowin, g&g
just flat hopped along with you guys, and must say that it was easier than expected. can't wait to see how it has changed the hop on my gun
Awesome! So glad this helped you out! Let us know! -Kurtis
Will the prowin work in my lvoa-s? Iv heard they don't fit in krytacs? I wanted to do this exact set up.
Does anyone know if the ORGA nub will fit in the ProWin unit without modification? Thanks!
should i go with the wide bore if im going to put a protech in my gun and want to do this?
The G&G Green bucking is also a good choice for this mod from what I've used.
Are you guys still going with the flathop these days and still think it's the way to go? What do you think about the barrels that come with one already installed?
have you guys tried out the Orga v shape hop up nub? if so, how did it perform?
Do you have to trim the namazu nub on an ak type hop unit and can you use the g&g green bucking?
This is a GREAT tutorial!
I'm fairly new to Airsoft (My kids got me into it). I've been playing around and learning the in's and outs of gearboxes....
I have an Umarex G36C.... I see you guys sell those. What's your experience doing a flat hop on them? I really want to turn it into a DMR.... Semi-only mod, 18" barrel.... Do the Umarex G36's take a specail hop? I see you have the prowin in M4 and AK.... The AK should also be a V.3 gearbox... is it interchangeable by any chance?
Thanks for your feedback and welcome to the sport!
You can definitely install a flat hop into the G36. It utilizes a standard nub to our knowledge. When it comes to hop units for the G36, there aren't a ton out there. Prowin does make one, but I'm not 100% sure if it's compatible with the Umarex G36. For all intents and purposes it should be though. The gearbox internals are interchangeable with V3 type parts for the most part. Hope this helps!
Quick Question, So on a normal barrel besides the orga, you install the bucking inside out even after you shave off all the nub thingies in it? essentially making the bucking completely flat right? Is this done on all buckings besides the Prommy Purple? say if i use a mapleleaf or even the firefly buckings?
when i turn the purple bucking inside out and shave off rubber do turn the bucking back right side out before installing on the barrel or do i install the bucking while it is inside out????
Hey amped. Could you please tell me if a flat hop will work with a miracle barrel?
As far as the nub direction does the longer side go toward the end of the barrel side or does it go facing the stock of the gun? Or does it even matter?
do I need a roller bar for the prometheus nub?
any tips on how to do this with a G&P M14? they have weird hop-ups, and i can't dig up anything on them.
Does is matter what hop up you get? I want to turn my AEG to HPA what hop up should I use.(Its a lancer tactical gun)
Can you leave nubs uncut? Or does it depend on barrel window size, just for clarification.
If I use this setup with the Prometheus bucking will I have feeding issues for my f1 due to the lips?
Do Pro Win hopup units like you're using here fit/work inside a G&G top tech?
So would you recommend getting the Orga over a normal 6.03 tightbore? The extra work for the tighbore isnt that hard but would the price of an Orga be worth it over a Madbull 6.03?
Do you keep it inside out once the little knob has gone
are the rotary type and sidewheel type of hop unit interchangeable?
will the rotary type fit a g3?
Hi... great tutorial but I have question, from where i can get this little thing "firefly..."?? ... thx for answer. :)
I got a question, why is it required t shave off the bottom to the rubber bucking? sorry if I seem to be a newb with this stuff but I recently just got into teching
After it is flat hopped is the Nub supposed to be uneven on both sides? if so, does anyone have some close up pictures so I can get a better look so I can flat-hop it correctly
It doesnt fit in my ares amoeba am 014, do you know a hop up house that will?
How do you know how to position the inner barrel in the Chamber?
would this flat hop be suitable for a jack polorstar hpa m4
To which side does the little lip you left on the nub face, toward the arm or away?
Can you use any orga barrel so you don’t have to shave the bucking?
With a 363mm 6.02 tightbore barrel flathopped with a prowin and prommy bucking (using the namazu nub) at 400 fps with .3s perfect compression ect any estimates on range? Any reply is greatly appreciated!
Are the Prometheus nubs wider than the firefly? Are they still thin enough to fit in a prowin?
Hi, Great video! I am looking to upgrade the Hop-Up in my Umarex Elite Force ( vfc ) hk416 a5 w/avalon gearbox. are these parts compatible ??
can you list all the products used in the video a link would be great thanks!
how long with this last compared to general oem stuff and Rhop fancy stuff
Does someone has a link to where can I buy the firefly nub
what is the point of shaving off the alignment ridge? i assume you turn the bucking back to its correct side after shaving off the bucking nub. do shaving off the ridge do anything?
Can you use an r hopped barrel with a flat nub?
just found this video & channel subbed and hit the gong. After this video when I go to your channel you better still make vids
We appreciate it! We will be making more videos. We have been unable to to with COVID going on.
How do you know what kind of hop up your gun uses
can i flat hop a miracle barrel 6.06 mm with a purple prommy soft??? and would that be a good setup???
Will Promy purple + Promy Flat hop nub fit to AK chamber? With Madbull black python v.2 or Madbull steel both 6.03 as well?
What size bore do you guys recommend for the orga barrel
Im purchasing a P* cm16 mod0 from you guys, would it be possible for you to install a prommy prowin, flathop and new bucking
Greetings Amped Airsoft... My question to you - What is the retail cost of the items you used in this video?? i am looking to add a bit more performance, and this seems ideal...
So if i have a krytac and get a Prometheus tightbore barrel do i have to do the bucking mod or will the promy purple already work with the barrel
If you are looking to do a flat hop, you will need to modify the bucking. So far the only Barrel on the market that doesn't require modification to the bucking are the ORGA barrels and Penn Yann barrels. They allow you to simply rotate the bucking and then you are good to go. 8)
can the prowin hop up chamber fit in a tm hk 416.?
Hey amped airsoft I was wondering what the rest of that reply you sent me about my question it started with "we "
And cut off. Some reason I couldn't scroll down to see the rest of the reply
10/10 video
If i do an s-hop on my barrel what nub do i use. I also have the bucking with no bump inside only the long ridge and i have a flat nub that came with it.
Or do i even attempt to do the s hop with the sugru?
I just got prommy flat hop.but it doesnt include roller bar.what am i gonna do?
Hmmmm I my bucking don have the range inside so I don have to trim it off . MB is the new version or something ??
I have a modify flat hop and nub have you guys tried that out?
Quick one, but once you remove the insides of the bucking what's stopping the air from leaving out the thin channel on the barrel?
Tia
leonard hawken Good question - the answer is typically nothing is stopping it. On my barrels I typically just put a dab of super-glue in the channel, and then use the floss tying mod to secure the bucking if it doesn't fit tight in the hop up chamber.
I used the Promy Blue bucking and can attest it sucks.
No comment.
Yet he did't comment on mine.
Yeah prommy blue hop bucking hasn't done too well for us. The prommy purple is infinitely better than the blue from our experience. -Kurtis
Even the red Prometheus Air Seal Hop-Up Hard Type very very bad, i had problem today the gun it doesn't shot (the gearbox sound) looks like using died battery the won't go out the barely can't reach 5 meter..
I don't understand, when u flat hop does the bb float up then gradually fall or does it fly straight further compared to stock?
how do you flat hop a krytac? The hop up arm doesn't fit them and I heard Prowin hop up chambers don't work in krytac
i have a polarstar jack and does my barrel length have to do with anything- im using all flat hop parts ^ in the video i started using a standard nub instead of the firefly because it didn't work like a flathop- but it works now like a regular hop
When it comes to barrel length, the longer it is, the more FPS it will have. So essentially the longer the barrel, the more efficient it can be since you can run at a lower PSI and achieve the same FPS per given PSI.
Hmmm the fire fly didn't work like a flat hop? Not sure I follow. Did you remove the nub inside your bucking, rotate it, so that the flat part of the bucking was touching the BB when the Firefly was depressed?
Please let us know if you have any questions.
Thanks!
Kurtis
hi amped, i took your advise and use the purple soft bucking Prometheus with the prowin house and the fire fly nub, i have serious feed jam where the bb pull the lip up and in itself and jams the bb stuck!
both my dmr and cqb does this!
Sacred Sweden Airsoft did you find a fix?
how do you flat hop a jg g608 im with you up til the large nub
please help
Does this increase the range of an aeg significantly?
Are they the same installation as a regular hop?
They didn't specify the orientation of the nub. They cut it with one side a bit longer so it makes a difference which orientation you install it in. Can someone clarify please!
are the modify ryoski hopup nub and bucking good?
Is the roller bar necessary? My nub did not come with one
can you not mod the bucking with a tightbore angel custom barrel?
anyone have you trying for amoeba am 014? I fear the emergence of feeding problems and hitting problems...
Installed a Modify flat hop soft bucking and nub and my gun jams on full auto, should i cut a notch or sand down the back, the bucking is protruding into the path of the bbs coming from the mag
Max theRoofer if it is protruding into your hop feed, you will want to sand down the bucking lips evenly until they no longer show in your hop feed. I personally use a drill with a barrel chucked in it with a fine grit sand paper. This typically allows for even sanding.
Check out the maxx model hop up. Im curious to see what you guys think
We love it so far. Typically we have them in stock. More are on the way currently.
Thank you for the video..btw whart type buffer rubber namazu firefly do you use.? Hard or super hard? Thx's before.
We use the Namazu Red, which is the Hard variant. This helps with heavier weight BBs.