The New Nissan Frontier Hardbody Edition Recreates a Legend: Here's How It Compares to the Original!
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- Опубликовано: 1 апр 2024
- ( www.alltfl.com/) Check out our new spot to find ALL our content, from news to videos and our podcasts! In this special video, Kase compares the brand-new 2024 Nissan Frontier Hardbody Edition -- a recreation of iconic cues on the original truck -- to an actual 1990s Nissan D21 Hardbody to see just how much Nissan's small (and now midsize) pickup has changed over the decades!
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That's me! Thanks to TFL for giving me the opportunity to show off my Hardbody! Been watching you guys since high school. Great crew!
Absolutely love your truck man!
Your truck has the sport package. It included the fender flares, chrome 15 inch wheels and LSD. Also timing belt service is 105,000 miles not 60,000 as the host mentioned
Sweet rig brother
@@jaredoaks6317 Thanks for the info!!
Good job! Maybe you have a future as a TFL presenter?
Love how this video has no pomp or ego. Just honest side by side views between old and new.
What a find! A 95 V6, 5Spd, 4x4 with LSD, and with an intact frame. Nice truck!
Dont do the drugs and drive pal.
The 90s was an amazing time in automotive engineering. Vehicles were advanced enough to be reliable starting and driving in all weather conditions with electronic fuel injection. They were all low compression and could run on any octane gas. Manuals truly were "standard" on basically everything with automatics as optional. Even the 4 speed electronically controlled automatics were miles ahead of the old 3 and 4 speed slushboxes people were used to in the 70s and 80s. Cars were new enough to come with CD players and great factory stereos but not vomiting "tech" everywhere like todays cars. They had basic safety crumple zones/airbags, and usually ABS, but no intrusive traction control/lane change systems yet. It was truly the peak of automotive technology before automakers went all in on tech (much of which is unnecessary but government mandated). All that being said I would take a new Frontier over every other offering today in the mid size truck market.
this comment should be pinned and you should have your own review channel
I have owned (between myself and my sons) 7 Frontiers ranging from 2001 to my present 2022 PRO4-X, all have run 200,000-300,000 miles with regular maintenance (zero major failures). They have been great trucks! I have just installed a Frantz by-pass oil filter on my Pro4-X because I intend to run it for the rest of my life (I am retired)! The Frontier has always been a great truck at a good price. My new truck is a very nice upgrade over the last series.Than You guys for your Great work, throughly entertaining this old Motorhead.
I agree!! I bought a new 2022 Frontier and it’s a GREAT truck. Smooth, refined, powerful. I keep my trucks for 15 - 20 years and I’m very confident the Frontier will perform.
Also retired now and still have my 2006 Frontier SE 4x4 (6MT) and 2015 Xterra PRO (6MT) both purchased new. Always have used full synthetic oil, no reason to buy a new one...
That '95 HB is amazing... Good find. When trucks were reasonable and tough...great for every day and more.
I have owned a 93 Hardbody then sold it 01 when my second child was added. It was a regular cab we needed upgrade but it was a fantastic truck. Over the years I have owned Dodge, Ford trucks even had a 2017 Titan but finally I bought certified 22 Frontier last October. I forgot how useful a midsize truck can be. My only complaint would be I wish they had kept the size down some. A modern midsize truck is about the same size as a 1/2 ton from the 90’s.
Nisssan has done a great job of keeping the Frontier a good size.
I have a small taocma 2001 and Tacoma 2022, and I see the huge difference. I use my little taco for Home Depot and around town driving. The 4x4 bigger midsize truck is for overlanding. I love both but it makes me smile to drive a smaller truck. They are so easy to maneuver and stuff load straight into the truck bed bc it's not lifted.
Fun fact. 1995 was the last year Nissan offered the v6 engine in the d21. They were gearing up for the launch of the frontier with the new optional 3.3 v6. All 1996 and 1997 hardbody’s have the ka 2.4. I have a 1993 d21 v6 se 4x4 5mt king cab that I have owned for many years.
Thanks for the info. I have a 97 with the 2.4 4cyl. I would like to swap to the 3.0 v6 but not sure if it would fit directly to the 4cyl trans.
I own a 95 in this same spec, its a v6 3.0,4wd, with LSD, manual. With 300 k miles runs great and its super reliable
I have the current generation and used to have a 1994 hardbody this one brings back memories.
I love my 1992 D21. I also have the SE V6 4WD Manual model. No rust, and it's a blast to take on the trails. I will never get rid of it. Best purchase I've ever made. ❤️
Sorry Kase, the Hardbody started in 1986.5 - 1997. I had the 1986.5 SEV6 5 speed 4x4. I tried out a new model like shown here when mine was destroyed by a person running a red light. And this truck with the extended cab has a horrific turning radius compared to what I drove. So I never bought another. I wish I had stuck with it and bought another one just like mine. Was great. Except by todays standards, the MPG and the tank size would be crap. Was crap back then TBH. And it had no rear locker. But it was fully loaded with the AC, slider windows, power everything, pop up/removable sun roof. Was fantastic. Yes, the timing belt every 60-62K miles. Past that and you are pushing your luck. Had a roommate whom had a Sentra and at 62.3K it snapped and ruined his engine. Had to rebuild. Cannot speak to this guys truck, but once you remove the "canopy" (which I had also) which reduces weight (obviously) that sucker got up and went out of its own way more than adequate for the day. I never did a 0-60 on it, as back then, it was not an obsessive measuring point on 4x4's. But estimate about 8-11 seconds.
I had a 92 and 94 Nissan. Great trucks. I wish I still had them. Nothing fancy back then. You could get a fully loaded se v6 for under 20 grand.
I’ve always liked Nissan trucks. Love my 22’ frontier. Only Nissan I’ve owned and I’m impressed all the way.
“I’m a right lane queen” love it!
I had a ‘92 Sentra w the 1.6L. Did use a bit of oil nor any leaks after 265k miles. Now, I went thru 3 trannies and 5 clutches, that tells you I wasn’t nice to it😁. And now I’m building an ‘08 tundra 4x4 w the 5.7 as a trail truck. Good for you on the hardbody!
Simple and lovely trucks. .....wish they were made still.
My step dad had a 93 regular cab 4 cylinder automatic he drove it till it died.
I actually owned a 87’ and a 95’…then a 2000 and then after 2 Tacomas…a 2022 Pro 4x. I also still have an 08’ lifted Titan that has over 300k and runs strong. I think Nissans best vehicles overall have always been trucks. Thanks for the content boys.
Mpg loop and drag race comparison is needed.
I owned both of these trucks! A ‘95 Hardbody (in metallic Barney purple), and currently, a 2022 Frontier SV. Even back then, the Hardbody was very crude and uncomfortable. The bench seat had almost no padding and you could feel the wire supports poking your backside. Bulletproof reliable tho!
The Frontier feels luxurious in comparison. Smooth, quiet, refined, and powerful.
What a great vid! I had a D21 and now have a 2023 frontier. I would rather have the D21 any day of the week. It was so much fun to just drive around and to head up to the hills with and the damn things were indestructible.
I can relate. I still have my '95 Chevy S10 Zr2, 2 door regular cab with the 6 foot bed. It came from the factory with a 3" lift and wide bodu option to fit the 31" tires. The 195 hp engine is tired but starts right up every time. Manufacturers need to produce smaller pickup trucks again and I don't mean the crew cab with tiny useless bed variants.
Those retro wheels are 🔥
We had a 2007 Xterra & 2009 Pathfinder. Both bought brand new & super reliable.
That D21 is an absolute unicorn in that condition! He’s so lucky to have it! It’s too bad the EPA killed the compact truck in the USA, but maybe before too long we will have some EV small truck options, since they can’t set unreasonable fuel economy standards for those.
David Tyler was great.He was a natural on this video.
Cooll truck!
I own one in Costa Rica, it was imported in 2008, it has 400k miles and still going strong
I love the trucks but hate the VG's water pump gasket on the 4wd.
Very cool! Great find bro!
Bring back the original as a smaller truck next to the Frontier. Guaranteed sales.
Back when nissan made good vehicles. My first vehicle was a 1986 nissan hardbody. Most basic model. No power steering, no AC. But was a great truck.
They still make good vehicles. Nissan gets a lot more hate than they deserve.
@@AB-coyote I've owned several and had issues with every single one. But nothing is made like it used to
@@AB-coyotethey deserve the hate they get. The unreliability factor still stands for most of their lineup except their pickup trucks and the armada.
Awesome review
Hard body started in 86 1/2. Half way through the model year. I know this because i had one of the first
My 110 hp 1982 S-10 in a similar configuration makes me think that 150 would not be so bad!
I had a 97. Never should have sold it. Looked almost exactly like that one.
Presenter makes the comment that the new Frontier is almost the same size as older full size trucks.
My 2022 Frontier long wheel base model is, in fact, larger in every dimension (except 2.5” narrower) than my 2003 Tundra SR5.
Most notably, my ‘22 Frontier LWB is a full foot longer than my 2003 Tundra. Crazy how “compact” trucks have grown. I’m a small guy (5’4 @ 130lbs) and I can’t drive the new full size trucks. They feel like giant school busses. I physically don’t fit correctly within the dimensions of the truck.
T100 and first gen Tundra weren't as big as a F150 or Dodge Ram.... but yes Dakota came out w/ midsized truck in early 90s and everybody else did a decade later
That presenter is just outstanding. He is calm cool and knowledgeable. Also very talented. And photogenic
Agreed. He’d be a great fit as a regular.
Beautiful, I had the first gen Frontier, it’s very similar to that old Hard Body.
Great job Kase !!!!!!!
Such a great vehicle. Thanks for sharing.
VERY COOL Fell'as.... Thank you... really enjoyed that.
I had a 1995 new. It was red. Great truck.
Cool comparison. Had a 2002 Ranger FX4 5 speed and watching this makes me miss that thing! Also Tyler is a natural on camera!
Thanks!
Id take the old one anyday !
Great video.
Loved this comparison! Thanks for making this video. I really like both trucks, but I'd take the old one all day over the new one. Simple, solid, and useful for truck things. Trucks used to be tools, not toys, unlike today's much bigger and vastly more expensive pavement princesses. Nissan Hardbody and Frontier never developed the following that the Tacoma developed, but they are, in the least, just as good. The smallest new trucks have gotten entirely too big and too expensive. There's a new slot opened up for truly compact, more affordable trucks. Manufacturers just need to make them. The Maverick has done exceptionally well, which shows that there is a market for them.
Nissan's are the best!
Love those old Nissan trucks!
86... HARD BODY...CAME OUT.. MY FRIEND...I HAD A 87 .TWO WHEEL DRIVE.. IT WAS A GREAT LITTLE TRUCK....I LIKE THE NEW ONES... BUT JUST A KING CAB.. WOULD BE BEST...I THINK.. MY 87 WAS ...$6900 O.T.D...👍
My Hardbody Pathfinder is very similar. Ifs not the fastest thing but its a simple basic little truck. The only 2 options I have is the XE pack and cruise control
You guys mention how the new model has come a long way with double the horsepower. However, you dont take into account that the old hardbody nissan weighs about 3600lbs and the new one is pushing just under 5000lbs. Still an improvement in power but the power to weight ratio isnt as drastic as most people would think.
That Frontier with the Hardbody edition is the best looking midsize currently.
Cool seeing the old hardbody. My first wife’s dad had one and he put a load of miles on it.
Kase is imho the best presenter on TFL now. But I like the rest of the dudes too 😂
I have a 2010 frontier. 293k miles and still my daily driver. Basicly doesn't have any isuues. Such a great truck I would absolutely buy a newer one when this one finally gives up. Hopefully not for a few more years. Trying to clock 500k
It would of been a way better if you found a crew cab hardbody to side by side them i know hard to find still great video love hardbodys and 720s!!
I had 2 an 87 hit a cow & it was totaled, bought another one a 95 low mileage, it was a gas guzzler so I sold it
I have been looking at the new Frontiers. The Tacoma now has a turbo 4 cylinder and is almost $10K more than a comparably equipped Frontier. Add the inevitable market adjustment of up to $10K by the greedy dealers and the Frontier is even more attractive.
Theyre both overpriced junk designed to wear out and liquidate you of your money
I miss that era of trucks (the Toyota & Nissan trucks with no name).
High quality workhorses that people could afford that'll get things done.
Instead of gimmick laden, over-regulated and outrageously expensive cars in truck form.
That break as soon as the warranty runs out.
God i miss my old black on black hardbody 4x4 i sold way too cheap a decade ago. Mine was older and better tho
Nice seeing the old Nissan truck bring back when I had one just like that. Wish Nissan still offered a manual transmission in their trucks and cars not just two cars. Nissan needs bring back affordable prices.
Good video
Pity the truck manufacturers still don't work to squeeze out a few more inches between the wheel wells to make then a full 48.5 to accommodate sheet rock and plywood sheets flat on the bed floor. Would eliminate the need for a full size truck for many who don't need or want the extra bulk of a full size truck. I mean these "mini" trucks have grown to midsize in size but still end up with the same few inches short of 48 in width between the wheel wells as their 80's and 90's mini truck counterparts do/did.
Whats nice about the old hard body trucks you could get a 4 cylinder engine with a single cab and a stick shift. The new Nissans don't give you these affordable options anymore.
I have the same truck but automatic 4wd
Nice hardbody
My brother had that exact Hardbody, but 1993 I think.
I have a 2wd 4 cyl hardbody. Ez on fuel, upkeep and the insurance.
Under oil w/ Fluid Film and that hardbody will last even there in mountains.
I purchased the Pro-4X for $42,500. It has all the packages except leather seats, moonroof and premium audio. Much nicer than the Hardbody and less expensive. I know they go the Hardbody for free to compare to other trucks, but I cannot understand why anyone would want the lesser optioned Hardbody model at a higher price. Why not get the Pro-4X for comparison and review?
Nice 👍🏻 video 🇺🇸💯
On the hardbody edition that should have put the grill in there and with the three vents in the hood
Ironically a new pathfinder at the local dealer has the 3 slots in the hood. I had to show the young sales guy the resemblance to my nearby 1987 HB.
They don't call them truck hardbody for nothing!
Wh are all the new beds so short?
🤷🏼♂️we need 6'+ beds!...It's as if the feds told manufacturers not to make them anymore
The new Frontier is available with a 6' bed, both king cab and long bed crew cab..
I really wish Nissan brought some retro touches to the interior of the new hardbody edition of the Frontier like different seat upholstery. Even a special splash screen on the display on startup and some retro designed digital inclinometer would be cool.
Does anyone know how to get rid of the auto stop start on a 2017 f150 ?
I had a 96 single cab 2wd in dark red it’s tan and brown interior plus a 5 speed but it got totaled in2018 then I got a 16 king cab and it has 156k currently
My dad has the same truck in green bought new in 95 thing has only 50 thousand miles on it
Seams like a dohc vg30 would be a nice little upgrade
What's funny is that old truck gets better fuel mileage than a new truck.
Solid rigs. The New one looks great. Would be a wise investment for sure. ✌️💙✌️
It would be neat to get the new hard body in Canada but it looks like Nissan Canada has decided to only sell Pro4X Frontiers in Canada. Sadly these are piling up at dealers and I think the MSRP on the Frontier has really killed the sales here at least.
Agreed! I’m in Alberta and Nissan is the only import brand name trucks with any inventory you can choose from. Even GM doesn’t have much inventory! Toyota, is Toyota! Haha. #1 in sales.
The Nissan really didn’t change much other than looks from the 2020. It was dated on its release date. I like the looks, but if the dealers would negotiate $2500 - (preferably) $5000 off then it’s a comparable purchase vs Toyota. The Nissan is likely to be #1 in quality for the next few years at least though! The Frontier,,, maybe not the rest of the line.
I wish we could get the p4x king cab in the states, it’s all built on the same factory line. Don’t know why they can’t just sell all versions in either country. At least make it a special order option.
I would take that D21 over the frontier anyday of the week.
A generational thing; I'm old enough to remember those trucks when they were new in the 1980s. I would never want to go near one. Extra bonus, they are 100% deathtraps in a collision
I saw a 89 that tangled with an F250 of about the same year and the Nissan faired better than the Ford. Offset headon collision at that.
Everyone blames the manufacturers for the change in vehicles.
The government sets the parameters.
They try to give the people what they want, within the parameters the government allows.
That's not the way it's supposed to be.
But we keep on allowing it.
Caaarrrs annd Biddss 🤷🏾♂️
not gonna lie, i'm not here because I'm choosing between an old and a new truck. I'm here because the old truck is my only financially responsible choice and I want to see how it stacks up versus what I can't afford.
It's like listening to old vinyl LPs. 😏
I love good used vehicles. The depreciation of new trucks is not for me.
Personally not dropping almost $4K on an appearance package, but it's still nice to have the HB Package available...
I would take that old hardbody over that new one any day.
Although I'm a little biased because I have a 1997 V6 five speed just like that one except for black, 337,000mi on it. Only money ever spent on it it's had two clutches in it and two starters
And Tyler let me tell you one thing if you ever have to replace that starter on that V6 it's almost easier to pull the engine then fight getting around that pumpkin in the front drive system
Good to know! This one is sitting at 156k miles.
@@tylerkstevens I purchased it brand new, they did replace the wiring harness in it at about 8000 miles but that was under warranty.
Nissan and their roof bars.
More of this. Less Roman. Please.
I live in California the reason. That truck is so nice is the same reason. My 94 Silverado is no salt on the road that truck will rust to death in 5 years in Colorado because of the salt on the road, California cars are prestined.
Yeaa we still got our old maxima since 1998 😁. Recently got an ole sentra in great condition too. Both 0 rust.
You guys always say we will have you back to run some trials but ive never seen it actually happen lol
See if the guy is willing to do a this, vs that off-road mash-up.
I'm down!
If Nissan's plan to more than triple its sales is going to work, they'll need to watch this video and take a clue from Tyler's 1995 Hardbody here; NOT follow Ford and Hyundai's formula for a compact pickup.
A truck-based, non-turbo 4 cylinder powered extended-cab with a true 6 foot box or a crew with a 5 foot box and a standard manual transmission with either rear or four-wheel-drive (automatic optional) would be the smarter way to go here. A hybrid, rather than a Turbo, would be the only optional powertrain I'd offer, and if Subaru can do a hybrid/AWD/Manual combination (not anymore, but they did) then so can Nissan. If they build that type of compact pickup, neither Ford nor Hyundai nor anyone else going the FWD/AWD, one size fits all thing would stand a chance in this country. Amazing what rabbits know, huh? 🐰!
The Ford Maverick is a great seller. It has been a big hit for Ford. Nissan should follow Ford and build a similar vehicle.
The Maverick is fine as is. Needs a modest price drop and that’s it.
@@shiftymcgee9359
All vehicles need a price drop.
You are 100% correct.
@nm-qt2hb No, they shouldn't. That's the problem with "trendy thinking," by offering the same product, Ford continues to dominate. Doing something different by giving buyers a distinct choice is a far better approach.
@shiftymcgee9359 Yes, but no one here actually said that the Maverick should change, did they?
This good old girl need rear cab bushings... I own one exactly like this but more abused.
Where’s David?! He should be doing this one!
Is there a softbody? Just curious...
I'll take the hard body!