Game of Thrones Cast React To Season 8 Fan Backlash
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Charles Dance must be so happy he left the show at its peak
And now he gets to do Godzilla instead of being in this wreck.
His character's death pretty much heralded the end of the good writing for the show, largely because they ran out of source material but also because they lost their greatest antagonist.
Though I do like the last seasons, Charles Dance's presence WAS the show's peak. When the show started focusing on characters like Daario, it truly felt like they had killed off most of the interesting characters and had to rebuild from there.
He never understood it
Ironically, the show still had 2 books of source material after his death. The showrunners shot themselves on the foot when they attempted to cram both books in season 5 while cutting just about everything that made them work.
sophie was the only one defending because she got to be the queen, lol.
Sophie talks about being disrespectful. Meanwhile she gaslighted kit for his drinking problem on television for the world to see at the awards. She's a fucking troll!!
After I seen the horrible person she actually is it started to make me hate the characters that she portrays.
@@crazierthings3022 yeah her character was the worst. Yes the worst for what she did to Jon and Dany. She was selfish, greedy and only thinks about her personal gain
Yh that actual episodes were decent but the story doesn’t make sense… Drogon leaves with Danerys body to god knows where and never seen again. Jon goes beyond the wall at the end with the free folk without any context…. Don’t know what he’s doing. Arya goes elsewhere and we don’t know anything about it. So much is left to be explained
@@crazierthings3022 I felt bad for her when I listened to the podcast about how she was body shamed and criticised for her acting, both of which I disagree with - she's beautiful and did a good job on the show - but she does come across as a real-life Sansa Stark, ie highly unlikeable.
@@crazierthings3022 Huh?! Are you talking about the hug at the Emmy's? She hadn't seen Kit since they filmed and this was after he had to get professional help for his deteriorating mental state. Kit is her friend and he was in a bad place she was happy that he was okay.
And why is Sophie the only one being called out? Kit said fans complaining should go fuck themselves. Both were supporting the crew who worked so hard to put this season together.
I never see hate directed his way though. I wonder why.
I love how when Masie told her boyfriend about her character killing the Knight King, he immediately called it out for being bad. Most boyfriend's would just support the person they're dating so not to hurt their feelings. But this dude was like, "Nope". 😂
Legend has it, he's still sleeping on the couch.
they're* dating
For some reason when she says he says, "should have been Jon though really" I read it in karl pilkintons voice lol
Should've been Jon and Bran and maybe Melisandre. Jon guards the realms of men from the White Walkers. Bran and the Night King are linked and the Night King, for some reason, sees the Three Eyed Raven as his primary target. Melisandre has magical fire powers that are counter to ice, and her big secret is she's super old. NK's downfall being a team effort makes sense for multiple reasons: - It helps Jon be a hero so his hero arc isn't just a fizzle right at the end. - It helps Bran's powers serve a purpose. It helps makes us believe Bran is a true threat to the Night King. It helps us become more accepting of his reign. - Melisandre's old age could serve a purpose if she provides info to our heroes as to how to defeat the White Walkers, like recounting how they were defeated the first time around. This would give us some of the lore we so desperately expected but lacked in the actual season. - It would make the Night King seem like a properly threatening big bad if it took a concentrated effort to take him down rather than a shank from behind.
His response was disgusting. It was just misogyny.
The cast saying the ending was great sounds like Sansa in season 2 saying “I love King Joffrey with all my heart”
I don't agree with Sophie Turner's statement at all, people hate the final season for a just reason.
Besides, nobody is blaming the cast, crew or anyone else except for the writing department.
Everyone did a wonderful job, yet the fact still remains that season 8 felt rushed, unsatisfying and hilariously and frustratingly stupid at some points.
I think it's disrespectful to the fans for calling them out like that.
I'm happy dark phoenix flopped
@Master Devoe plus we can't forget we all subscribed and paid for this show boosting them up to the point of fortune and fame. Everything they have and will do because of GOT they owe to us. Who cares if they think it's disrespectful, we as a whole paid for something and we were given garbage. In our normal consumer lives we would never stand for that. Hence the petition and all the other negative fame. Our only hope is they learn from their now known mistakes vs being arrogant and thrashing the people that loved the show. Smh
@Master Devoe I guess... bad example imo but I see what you're saying. My point still stands, hopefully they "learn" is all can we can hope for. When we watch D&D written Starwars maybe they'll try harder and not leave plot holes.
@Master Devoe you realised that no one who signed the petition thought a redo would happen, because we knew it would never happen. The petition was an outlet for us fans to show how disappointed we are with the writing.
Master Devoe Jesus you're arogant, and hyporcritcally disrespectful to more people than there on the cast of got
"I think it will stand the test of time"... as the biggest disapointment in tv i guess...
It’s been like 3 years and people are still pissed 😂
@@Ivorysky00 I am still pissed off now.
@@demonbasher23 not gonna lie me too 😆 I'll stay mad forever
@@Ivorysky00 to this day I’m still confused as to why they had Arya killed the night king when she literally never met him 1 time. D&D aka dumber and dumber 😂
@@Ivorysky00 Even now I'm getting pissed when I consider a rewatch and know how literally every character gets butchered in the end.
"the best they could under the circumstances"
Circumstances of endless resources?
Right? They were literally offered more time and episodes. They refused. These "circumstances" were self-created.
@@Richard_Nickerson Exactly! George wanted 8 seasons, D&D wanted 7. So they made the seasons have less episodes and, therefore, less time to expand on the story. All because they wanted to fuck off to Star Wars.
@What ?
Ummm... care to provide your sources? This "forced fake narrative" has multiple sources, including HBO itself.
If you somehow have a more legitimate source than HBO, I would LOVE to see it.
@@kee1755
George wanted a dozen seasons.
@What ?
Still waiting for that source that knows more about HBO than HBO.
Sophie does know that the fans never criticized the actors or actresses for season 8 but only and only the writers?
Welcome to Hollywood. Where fake people try to give right answers instead of real thoughts and opinions.
She was probably just offended that people didn't like something she was involved in.
She wasn’t talking about anyone criticising the actors, she was talking about the disrespectfulness of the people petitioning to remake season 8
@@Socius- she was just getting offended because she had the best ending and she is happy with that
@@Socius- it was made clear it had nothing to do with the actors but the write3r. Heck even i would Love to have a rewrite of season 8 since the two Idiots managed to almost ruin the last season if it where not for the amazing cast.. just because they wanted to turn toward their new project, which ended with them not even beeing on said project for long.
The Acting, Music, VFX and Cinematography was perfect. The Writing is the only problem
Don't forget the stunts, sets, costumes and editing.
Daniel Jon perfect!!!? Could NOT see the battle!
Acting?
Except for the battle, I could’ve spot the difference between the two sides
Nah. Even the directing was off. Battle at Winterfell was directed by the same man who directed Winds of Winter, Hardhome, and Battle of the Bastards. It was nowhere near that level of quality directing, plus it was difficult to see wtf was going on.
Fans have a right to be upset about the ending because it didn’t make sense honestly. All the cast & crew were AMAZING but D&D 101% butchered the ending to move onto Star Wars faster. They could’ve let someone else finish the show if they were that eager to leave, GRRM wanted to go up until 10-13 seasons-D&D didn’t so it was rushed.
Yep, it was disrespectful to the audience.
Their handling of the show frankly baffles me. It was the most popular show, and had plenty of story left for 10 full seasons. Why would they not bring in people to run it out?
Hubris and ego are the only things I can think of.
Loud and wrong...it was always going to be 8 seasons but y’all pick up these sound bites off comments and run with them. This has zero to do with Star Wars. If you had actually watched interviews with GRRM years ago you would know that it was always going to be 8 seasons as that’s what they agreed upon. It was supposed to be a season a book and GRRM wanted more so they compromised with 8. I can’t stand people that have no original thoughts of their own either. You probably watched for the dragons. The ending made total sense if you were paying attention. If you are pissed at the ending and wanted more context, be mad at GRRM because he didn’t finish the books like he said he would when they started this project. They are working from his outline so most of what we saw was his ending without all of the context because he didn’t do what he said he would do. Don’t understand the logic of people wanting them dragging out the seasons when he still hasn’t produced a book and this is supposed to be an adaptation not original work. Be lucky they didn’t pull the plug in season 4 / 5 after it became clear he wasn’t going to publish the books.
MikoButter Watch GRRM’s recent video...a reporter asks him why did GOT end at S8 and George says “Ask David & Dan, they were the only ones that wanted to end it. HBO said how ever many seasons we could’ve gone to 13” So settle down SIR. I’ve watched the series many times and I’m very familiar & up to speed on the show because I’m a huge fan. I can give a shit less about dragons tbh, take them out and I’d still watch the show. Regardless of how the show ended it was still very rushed and sloppy, many plot holes, and teleporting within scenes. If Daenerys was going to become mad then D&D should’ve transitioned that and showed us more of her being mean oppose to 2/3 episodes. Character development has been shredded within some characters, IQ scores dropped on others. It’s okay to be honest and speak up on something, no one is bashing the cast & crew at all everyone did amazing.
Felt like a mad dash to a set of preconceived plot points with almost no regard at all for story flow, wrecking Jaime and Daenarys in particular. Then at the end, it just seemed less like "Here's how the surviving characters move on with their lives" and more like "Uh...well, we gotta give them something to do..."
My main complaint is that the ending did not make sense, and if they went the non sensible route they could at least make it satisfying.
The only way to salvage the end was not write such a shitty entire season.
I disagree. The entire season was terrible. The first 2 or 3 episodes were ok, but they also didn't really progress the plot.
i love that quote" everyone did the best they could" , really D&D wrote the best script they could ?
StormtrooperYD that was probably their best script they’re awful writers
They need to be fired ! These two stupid guy destroy the show.
I think they did. They were really good, if not for the fact that they forced themselves into a schedule that basically required to use plot holes as plot devices.
They are excellent writers. They wrote Battle of the Bastards and Winds of Winter which are two of the highest rated episodes in the series without the book. People seem to forget that this was supposed to be an adaptation. There is no scenario in which this ends well for them without GRRM finishing the books. They were going off his outline to wrap the story up and I’m guess didn’t want to deviate too far from that. GRRM will have the benefit of seeing the reaction to his thoughts for the ending and taking his sweet time to churn out the books and change things based on what y’all are complaining about and you’ll will call him a genius. This hate train for D&D is too much. If you hate the ending then you hate what GRRM told them the ending was, not what they came up with.
The worst part is they actually can write good stuff, idk why they stopped giving a fuck after the S6 finale. I'd honestly have prefered if they ended the show with that season.
Disrespectful, Sophie Turner? I'm sorry...but the writing for season 8 was disrespectful towards all the fans that supported the whole show for 10 years!
...It has nothing to do with the actors. They are the reason why I was still able to watch it.
It is their production - they can do anything they want with it and it's not possible to please all the fans. While I wasn't expecting the show to finish how it did there were parts of series 8 that required 'a suspension of disbelief' - the dothraki army that had fairy obviously almost wiped out with the battle against the undead reappeared in the next episode. As was stated in the interviews - any series that kills the best known actor in series 1 can do anything it wants.
@@simonkevnorris Sure they can...and so can we as we are the ones paying for it. So I'm saying the last season was a disgrace...but so has everyone their own opinion. ^^
@@AteezStar1117 thank you! Enough with this 'disrespectful' thing. Fans have every right to complain about something they love, that was rushed and done simply to surprise rather than to be coherent. Also without the fans this show wouldn't have exploded and she wouldn't have had a job, so chill out Sophie.
I can understand why she said it though. The petition does basically say they need to redo the entire season. Which means everyone involved needs to redo it, not _just_ the writers. Even though the writers fucked it up, everyone else did a fantastic job with what they had to work with, and the amount of money and time it'll cost and take away from everyone cannot be understated. It's basically punishing everyone by asking for a redo and that's not right or fair. Rather, I think asking for padding on the scenes would've been better, so that things are fleshed out more.
@@roseofthegarden_ Look I'm a Sansa fan myself but I'm not gonna sit here and think its acceptable for the actor to be blaming/accusing fans of the show by apprehending that we all wanted a petition just because it was for example 'shit acting' or because it was 'too dark to see anything'. To make a good show it has to make sense, it has to stick to storylines/plots, build up and not destroy good character arcs just like Jaime's, Jon's and Dany's. I know its just a show but you can't end the most popular TV show in the world like that, you just can't, it was lazy, it was rushed, it didn't make any fucking sense at all. Sophie Turner's a brilliant actor and she killed it this season and I know the cast/writers/directors are all like a family to her but she doesn't have to defend them 24/7, most of the cast think Season 8 was terrible. People are going to have opinions and she cant make them change their minds about what was on their screens. I love Sophie but she really needs getting her head checked sometimes.
Sophie Turner defending the show because her character is one of the very few who had a satisfying ending (besides Arya). SMH🙈
Sophie sounds like more of a shrewd Sansa Stark in real life too.
i guess playing a character with brain damage affects you irl
Yes
Living near where GOT was filmed and randomly bumping into cast sometimes, she was super cool with my friends who met her. Also the Hound. Some others were much less so
@@catrionabean ShE wAs SuPeR cOoL mY fRiEnDs mEt HeR, SHUT THE FUCK UP
@@thenotorious844 k
Stand the test of time? - few weeks later and it's deader than the people of kings landing. It will forever be remembered as something that ended very badly. It will be in those top 10 worst ending vid's....It's only legacy will be endless memes.
Erm not really? People are still milking it every way then can lol, pushing out videos and articles everywhere on the Internet. Evn though the writing has clearly gone downhill, I believe a little distance will allow people to process it a bit more, and it will lead a lot of people to be more charitable. That's what happened in my case. And nothing beats what came before - the worst season in Game of Thrones is still better than most of the TV shows (yes, I'm including the really good ones like the Succession here too) and major films that are coming out now. I believe it will stand the test of time.
If that happens, I honestly think it would be just petty viewers not being able to get over themselves. The show was great, especially in the beginning, and even the obviously subpar ending we got was written better than many other shows.
@@EIizabethGrace It's sad but i'm fairly certain this is what has/will happen. If you think about some other great shows that garnered world wide attention - such as 'Lost', which ended very badly - no one talks about it now other than as an example of how to end something badly. GOT will join it's ranks.
Maybe for some, such as yourself, the final 3-4 episodes were not that bad, perhaps you binged watched it late on its life or watched it casually over the years so you were not that invested in the show. For those who were invested, the overwhelming majority see the final season has something horrendous, an awfully disappointing series of endings.The final season destroyed so many character arc's, with characters acting completely out of character, their actions unearned (due to a rushed plot or just plain illogical plot points in some cases).
There was no development for many of the characters sudden, coin flipping turn - as such this season has retroactively destroyed previous seasons, and along with it any legacy that this show could ever have.
Many, such as myself, can never watch it again knowing what happens and what these beloved characters, absurdly, become. It has undone so many seasons of character and plot development through the mockery that was this final season.
@@blower1 Maybe it's cause I watched Lost all at once after in haired, but I never got why the ending was SO widely hated. I didn't mind it. That definitely does not apply to GOT, which I've been watching since I was probably too young to watch it (I think maybe 7-8 years ago). I think it's still better written than many other shows, but it was rushed, with plot holes being used as plot devices. That said, once I accepted that, I was able to enjoy the well-written dialogue and the good plot points that were the pillars of a rushed storyline.
I also didn't see anything straight-up inconsistent with any major character arc. Arya and Bran were blatantly smacked onto the scene out of nowhere, but even then it's not like they ended anywhere it was unrealistic for them to end, they just lacked foreshadowing and development. Others that were shunned, in my opinion, were absolutely consistent with previous seasons and well done, aside from being rushed.
Dany's storyline, for example, was totally warranted and consequential. She's shown signs of having a Messiah complex and an obsession with the throne from the get-go, and this worsened in season 8.
At first it was about her being upset at the Northmen for not seeing her as their rightful queen, then it was about putting her quest for the throne before Jon's values, then before Missandei's life, then the unchecked show of vengeful anger against those who had challenged her/harmed her and those who hadn't rebelled in her favour. Everything was topped off by the ultimate expression of her true nature: essentially referring to herself as an enlightened leader whose authority was the absolute solution to all the issues of the world, as could be expected from a well-meaning megalomaniac who thought so highly of herself that she saw everything that led to her victory would be ultimately justified.
It was insanely rushed, far too much to be convincing without a lot of creativity on the audience's part, but if you look at the skeleton of the storyline, it was the logical consequence of her evolution throughout the show. She started as the underdog, but it became more and more clear that as time went on she was just becoming more of an embodiment of the DSM's definition of a narcissist and that her intention of "breaking the wheel" was about definitely stopping it through what she thought of as an enlightened dictatorship.
Jaime was also a huge disappointment to many, but I don't personally think his arc was thrown away. He went back to Cersei, which makes 100% sense given their mutually toxic, genuinely loving, co-dependant relationship. That doesn't take away his growth. He broke away from his family, realized how his upbringing had fucked up his perception of the world and of himself, reinvented himself, fought honourably against the dead despite Cersei's wishes, developed connections with people he would have despised beforehand, he chose to take care of his sister and their baby instead of committing the umpteenth, unnecessary murder in Westerosi history. He ended his life in the same place he started it, but as a very different man who had had quite literally changed the world, and I found it satisfying. I especially thought this was embodied by his last words being "nothing else matters", which had always been his way of putting is family above everyone else, and ended up becoming a wholesome statement he used to calm the woman he loved seconds before dying, when truly nothing else mattered.
Cersei was also reflected in her death. That human side of her that we saw so rarely, but that was at the core of everything she did, visible once everything else was stripped away. Even just from a psychological point of view, people like Dany are often so charming they're mistaken for great leaders, while those like Cersei are often mislabeled or even misdiagnosed as narcissists or antisocial people. I found it great that they were put in such stark contrast as we kind of got to see the most hidden, and potentially the most real part of their personality.
Sorry for the super long reply btw.
@@dipannitajannat2202 You say that like it's a good thing. Spiderman 3 stood the test of time too, to this day people remember how shitty it was.
Emilia tried so hard to say it was good but you could clearly tell from her reaction that what she said wasn't true
Conleth Hill's face says it all....
Discount Pirates of the Caribbean music + typos + most reactions actually NOT being reactions to fan backlash = terrible video
Somehow, still better than season 8 though.
@@Mike_Dubayou underrated comment
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« Disrespectful for the crew »...
Because this isn’t disrespectful for the fans to do 7 fantastic seasons to finish with that?!
I love Sophie but honestly she comes out with some bullshit I tell you. We've watched this show for 7 fucking years what does she expect people to react like when they end this once brilliant show like that? Like you said its got nothing to do with the cast/actors its D&D.
I’m not saying I agree with D&D just tossing the show aside to go do something else, but you must admit there’s a difference.
On one side, we’re talking about people who’ve dedicated pretty much every waking moment of the last 10 years to it all. On the other, we’ve dedicated to it maybe three days of passive attention overall?
You do understand you don't own the show. Right? You can definitely complain about the season. I do too. But you absolutely can't start a petition to fire D&D. Was the writing bad? Yeah it was fucking terrible. Is it the fans' responibility to fix it at the ecpense of other people's jobs amd dignity? Fuck no
The guy who made the petition edited the details very soon after it started to gain traction and added that it wasn't meant to be an attack on anyone apart from the writers, and that he didn't expect them to actually remake it.
Unfortunately I don't think he was able to edit the petition title lol
It was an impulsive move but honestly who can blame him. They could barely write Cersei, the Big Bad of the whole series essentially, doing anything other than ****looks down at city****
The books will end the same way, but it will be well written. Characters will develop into what they came to be that last season, not just change overnight.
No way the ending is the same.
They will not. Martin is clearly not interested anymore by himself. He will die before or just refuse to write futher.
@@gloriaregali9090
Ha what? Martin is clearly no longer interested? What the fuck kind of assumption is that?
I am not sure if the books are going to end in the same way.
I mean, maybe but in the books we have so much more plot points, characters and arcs that they might very well end completely different.
@@Richard_Nickerson he is doing everything, but not the main series.
All I know after following the show for all these years, I couldn't stand any one of the characters after season 8. I did feel sorry for Drogon when he lost his mother.
Good point. It made me hate all my favs .Jon /dany/the starks. I was exasperated.
Nathan Goddard Not trying to come across as patronizing here, but it think it’s because you’d idealized them. GRRM always meant everyone to be a gray character, sometimes disguising some as something else at first and then revealing their ambiguous nature. The show also missed that memo a bit and made especially Dany and Jon a sort of heroic heroes with few, unimportant/endearing faults. Coming back to George’s plot points, therefore, made it even harder to adapt for people who had picked them as pretty obvious favorites, which would already been problematic in the books.
@@EIizabethGrace I accept that ..the grey area between character personalities and that we became too personally attached to them - idols is a good word to use. I guess I felt different endings to thier characters would have felt better as we became too involved and got swept up in our own dreams for them. Still it was too much, too soon and too impotent for some of the characters.
@@nathangoddard6082 I agree on the too much, too soon part of it. It was definitely rushed, and the whole thing could have easily taken up ten seasons without feeling like it was being dragged on for too long. That definitely didn't help. On the "too impotent" part, I assume you may be talking about Cersei, perhaps Jaime, Varys, Tyrion and maybe even Dany in an odd way. At least, those are the ones people seem to think were sort of messed with improperly. I would agree with Varys and Tyrion, cause they were definitely dumbed down, and I guess Cersei in that she realistically would have put up a better fight. Ultimately, though, I don't think that was the case. I loved how Dany and the twins died, for example, and Tyrion ended up pretty much on top, so that also helps.
George's answer explains why he is so slow in writing the books
He made a seriously complex story, and if the end he has in plan really IS similar to the show... he's got to be able to convincingly get the characters there - Up to the last season, we don't see Daenerys being mad (insane). We do see her being brutal to her enemies, which is not the same.
Through very unbelievable story (she kinda forgot about Euron's fleet, etc), they tried to pile things up that would make her snap... but there was no real underlying evidence that she would, or what she would be like if she did.
I could definitely see her being angry AF and going after the source - Cersei - directly... but slaughtering the entire city? Nope. Didn't make sense for her character at all, not to that point in the course of the show.
Jon Snow was also spineless and barely an extra. Tyrion was stupid. I figure Tyrion would have understood that if he could have gotten Jon to pull his head out of his ass, Jon could have stopped Daenerys from doing something drastic.
Ah, Sophie. As intelligent and as likable as her character…
The problem was the writing, my sweet summer child. No one gave the crew a hard time. They all did a fantastic job What D&D did was what was disrespectful to all those folks, yourself included, who worked tirelessly for over ten years.
They ran out of material, they were working with close to nothing for the last two seasons, the last book wasn’t written, stay quiet if ur dumb like that. They did a good job with what they had, not to mention the previous seasons that were really good.
I don't really think she said what she thought, there's simply nothing that they can do as actors, and as much as some of them have the personality to probably speak out about it, most of them know that the best to do is to defend the work they participated in. They're just actors after all...
Yeah, she didn’t pass the vibe check.
@@JoeyAGamer i’ve been looking for got actors who spoke up about the dumbsterfire this show had truned out to be, but yeah… you are right. They have to say these things in order to hve a carrier in the future. Movie industry is full of corruption, perversion and greed. It’s just sad how they ruined a show becasue those two fools had 0 skill in writing and had such arrogance they didn’t listwned to anyone.
@@RikTaa could’ve at least worked with George RR Martin, but D&D decided to ignore him and write their own ending. Completely their fault it failed, and as we can see they’ve barely produced anything since.
When all the fan responses were raving how good the show was, the crew was accepting it all. Now that pretty much everyone is seriously disappointing all the justifying comes out. Now fan's should not be disrespectful by giving their honest opinions? Now it is "some like it, some do not. Just accept it". If you want to bask in the glory of praise, also accept the critique from the same fans if it becomes crap.
Acting was still great. Production quality superb. The writing was objectively very bad in many instances. Just to name two: 1) Daenarys turns entirely out-of-character without any build up, and 2) everyone dies in episode 3 and episode 4 tries to sell us it was only half of all forces. No, it was not. We saw the crypts, inside of the castle, and the aerial shots of Winterfell ... a handful of people stood on many times more corpses.
Will George RR Martin end it basically the same? Probably. But I expect it to be without the enormous flaws. It is not the plot itself.
In this video, Kristofer Hivju (Tormund Giantsbane) perfectly summarizes the promise GoT made its viewers: "GoT does not follow the rules of storytelling, it follows the rules of life". That promise was broken. Dany's unexplained turn does not follow the rules of life. People do not change like that for no good reason. Yada yada, etc etc.
Perfectly said.
I hope you pay better attention to your own life. If not, then you deserve to meet a Daenerys of your own. Good luck.
3:03 "GoT doesn't follow the rules of storytelling, it follows the rules of life", is the best thing about the GoT *books*.
It's so funny that Sophie Turner called the fans disrespectful as she goes back to her huge mansion and we struggle to spend $15 a month for HBO. Fans deserved a better season. Honestly, her and Kit's responses were pretty despicable. At least Isaac Hempstead Wright acknowledged the season was rushed in his Oxford interview.
Actually Kit Harrington said in an interview that the ending was disappointing, plus he he go to a rehabilitation center. If you watch the live reaction of the cast reading their scripts Kit was in total shock. Sophie Turner was the only one who disrespected the fans: not kit. :)
Pity much
I mean it is disrespectful to petition for redoing it etc... Art isn't easy to make...we're lucky GOT was as good as it was for 4-5 seasons...it's very VERY rare we get very good shows like this that come around a couple times a decade...Breaking Bad, Lost, Better Call Saul, The Walking Dead...that's pretty much what we have and Game of Thrones is on that list of top 10 shows of all time.
In addition, fans don't actually deserve anything...you like it because some creator made it...if you don't like it anymore...than go and do something else with your time and your money. You aren't entitled to anything, and especially art.
If you look at Attack on Titan, and the controversy around the ending of that series...look at what that backlash did to the author who didn't deserve that kind of treatment at all and fell for said backlash. The ending prior to the revisions he made was perfect in my view, and even after the revisions it's still perfect...and the fans still complain about it. Isayama has no obligation to change the creation he made from his brain...because it was always his story...it's not his fans story. It's his. That's the end of it really.
Cheers,
@@NightmareCourtPictures yeah, its disrespectful to create jobs to hundreds of workers... its not like everyone who worked in season 8 got paid and they would get paid again... such evil fans....
@@ultratronger It is disrespectful, to think they owe you anything. They don't owe you jack, jack. You pay their service to watch the shows they make...don't like it? Then go switch to another service or whatever little "protest" you want to do...because its a free country and we have freedom here in America, to make these choices.
Also imo...if you feel that you are owed something being a fan...you aren't really a fan in the first place. A true fan would never want the artists they admire to become indentured slaves...and that's basically what you are asking for. "We pay you therefor you must do what we say." = indentured servitude.
all Sansa did at the end was sit back home relax and let other people do the dirty and in the end she got to be queen of her own kingdom? what did she do to deserve that? because she’s a stark? it’s no wonder Sophie (the actress u who played Sansa) was defending the writers, cos her character got a good ending 😒
She's just like her shrewd character
Yup Sansa did nothing. The only good thing she did was bring the knights of vale in time for the battle of the bastards but other than that she whined and bitched at Jon and Arya and nothing else.
@@bhargavipbaactually even bringing the knights of the vale was selfish because before the battle she was complaining to Jon about not having enough men to win and Jon told her he knows but he asked everyone in the north but Sansa didn’t tell him she could bring the vale so she did it In secret for some reason to undermine him or something
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1) Sansa was not certain that the Knights of the Vale would come, or if they would arrive in time.
2) She did not know what Jon's reaction would be if he knew she had asked for Baelish's help.
3) Not everything is a conspiracy theory.
I like how most actors are acting like they deserve praise for just trying
They aren't practically at liberty to say anything against the show, and we shouldn't blame them for avoiding gossip. Deep down however anyone would agree that it was a rushed Season that failed to give a well-deserved ending to such a phenomenal show. Sophie shouldn't have gone down that specific avenue, it's much owed to the fans worldwide for having made all this possible; the criticisms are testament to how much love we had had for the show. While the petitions may seem to somewhat undermine the crews' hard work, they are mostly criticizing D&D's abominable writing and little else. Even if such were not the case, saying something like that disrespects the fans and actually the crew too, as much as she thinks the petitions disrespect the crew. The fans have every right, and any filming crew know that if they are not prepared for negative feedback they should not be in the filming industry.
I think Sophie is biased because she got to be queen and she was happy about it
I mean, the fans also invested their time and subscription for the show. The fans is part of why the show kept running, for them to disappoint the fans with an ending that didn't really have much attention and tought given to it is sad. Still it's pretty disrespectful how the fans act in my opinion.
The fans are the ONLY reason why the show kept running, why any show keeps running. The petition to remake S8 is somewhat disrespectful, yes, but what D&D did with the show and it's characters is even more so. But in today's world it's sadly normal for people to think that they don't have any right to criticize a product they paid for. Also, the fact that Kit Harington told fans to pretty much go fuck themselves if they don't like it just because the cast and crew are bigger fans than the rest of us and they are doing the show for themselves is unforgivable and shows that the guy is a selfish prick.
It's not disrespectful to call out a nonsensical and rushed ending for being nonsensical and rushed. Several plot points that went nowhere, many characters that had entire arcs of character development just completely ignored in mere seconds, "danny kind of forgot about the iron fleet despite literally talking about it with her council just the day before"... GoT season 8 was just objectively bad storytelling by the writers. And we know that D&D rushed on purpose because they wanted it to be over sooner and to get to work on some star wars movies.
Absolutely none of them were enthused or excited. How could they be?
The season was not disappointing. It was just straight garbage. So bad it destroyed the series; knowing nothing matters devastates the mysteries, world, and character building over many years.
I loved how the only actors defending the show are those who got the most screen time and prestige in the last episode,but were not expected to get such an high point at end. I.e Sophie Turner, Maisie Williams, That Euron actor, and Brienne of Tarth.
Actually, Euron actor said wasn't sure whether he was going to watch the final episode when he was asked, so I wouldn't say he was defending the show.
Euron didn't like it he said he wasn't even gonna watch the last episode in a interview and you could tell he was so disappointed.
That I didn't know. Okay Euron is good then.
Maisie wasn’t defending it, you can tell that they’re all obligated to say nice things about it, but some truly defend it like Sophie & some truly despise it like Peter Dinklage. It’s all in their face expressions.
Most fans have praised the cast and crew, Sophie... It's only the writers that have gotten criticism, rightfully so!
Cast and crew : it sucked
Sophie : to say it sucked it disrespectful to the cast and crew
I think shopie just forgotten that we as the audience are the one who made got so great and successful.....her statement is really mean 🙄
Only the main characters with terrible deaths are truly unsatisfied. The rest of the cast got to have more screen time or a big ending, like Sansa and Lady Brianne, so they’re supportive of the writing!
Sophie Turner has missed the point of the lash out! Nobody is blaming the cast or crew! It's Dumb & Dumber's amateurish and lazy writing that fans are lashing out at! They alone ruined what was once the greatest show On TV!! I'm not even interested in re-watching the series again, which I was planning to do!
"i think it will pass the test of time".. well 1 year later, everyone kinda forgot about GOT or only remembers the failure, the 2 pre quels are canceled and the goodies are'nt selling anymore.. i think HBO is upset as the managers of the actors ^^
2 years passed and several prequels cancelled, still feel sour about ending myself)
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Sophie Turner is so arrogant. Can't stand her.
I bet Richard Madden, Iwan Rheon and Charles Dance are laughing to themselves now
The only issue I took with the best series ever was that it had to end. they could have ended it a half dozen ways. No matter how they ended it there would be fans taking issue with it. A tad rushed maybe but overall; it was the greatest series ever with good ending imo. also, they left it so a bunch of spin offs could happen if they wanted to and I sure as hell hope they do.
Exactly!! I will never understand the level of entitlement of the “fans” to think it should end the way they wanted or to sign a freaking petition. Mind blowing
I love Sophie but the way she explains the situation, she acts like we're saying its bad acting, we're not, it's BRILLIANT acting its got nothing to do with the actors at all. But you cant expect people to lie and pretend like it was a good SEASON and had good WRITING because quite frankly it wasn't/didn't. The writer's get payed thousand's, even millions, they started the show off brilliantly but ended it terribly. And that's coming from someone who is a die hard GOT fan. I'm sorry but its the truth.
I feel bad for all the actors who had to pretend to like it
I get where Sophie was coming from in the sense that it was disrespectful to the cast and crew when all the petitions went out but I think that was out of pure anger from the fans and purely directed at D&D. I’ve been watching GoT since 2017 and became SO addicted, I cannot even imagine what people who have watched it for 10 years must be feeling 😭
This video alone was better than the ending of the series. Notice how this was the BIGGEST freaking show on the planet for 9 straight years and suddenly.........nooooooobody talks about it anymore? I mean, people still talk about Breaking Bad and that show ended before this one. "Stand the test of time" my ass
I love how all of the defenders of this season think that the petition is disrespectful.
You're correct but it's not to the cast nor it's to the crew. It's to the arrogant morons who thought they could finish an extremely complex story like GoT/ASoIaF within six episodes when GRRM, the man who created the whole thing, hasn't finished it yet because of how complex it is (as well as being a bit lazy)
How much power does D&D have if no one dares speak their mind?
the reaction of Charles Dance is just the same as mine lol
0:20 "Best season ever!" And greyworm's actor was wheezing 😂
“Should be Jon though really” yep
Tormund hit the nail on the head. Game of Thrones doesn't follow the rules of storytelling, it follows the rules of life. Let it sink in. Then rewatch season 8.
“Mmm, should be Job though really, shouldn’t it?” Dude said what we all thought
holy can someone tell me the name of music ??
Disrespectful? Respect is something earned and should go both ways is it not? It's a show that became iconic due to its wonderful writing and a massive fandom who cares a lot about the work for years. It won't be where it's at if not for BOTH of those. So speaking of being disrespectful, well...
Sophie likes the ending.. that's convenient of her when her character is like the only one with a good ending or one that did make sense.
Bless all the rest of the actors too for pouring their blood, sweat and tears into this and the writers throw it in like that just as they didn't want to be predictable 😓 I would of rather predictable then what we got, the actors deserved so much better and so did the fans. Its been a year or two and I'm still like RE DO THIS
Make season 8 a bad dream of Bran and he wakes up and it's season 9 and we get the ending we all deserve!
It's like the characters lost all shred of development.. Like all the questions were left so unanswered. I will not watch the spin off , not a hope in hell. Not until they remake this mess
"some people were very happy"... NO, there is NOBODY that was happy with that last season
HBO should have cancelled the series after S06. It would be remembered as a timeless classic. Anyways whats done is done. Redditors have done a wonderful thing by donating to charities endorsed by Clarke and Harrington. To quote from another ruined Series- House of Cards- "What else can we do but take what seems meaningless and try to make something meaningful from it"
Oh for crying out loud all this fuss over the ending , it was never going to be a 'Disney ending' all through the whole series's characters who you didn't want to die, ended up dying, good characters got hurt, but George himself said that's what he likes about the whole show and he didn't want a typical happy ending. Also when you get to watch the whole show over again you get to realise why things happed the way it happened at the end. I loved the last season and ending because it wasn't what everyone expected, it made a refreshing and more realistic ending to the normal films
Sophie needs to understand that it’s actually very disrespectful to the fans to not give a fuck about the ending and leave us so dissatisfied. Without the fans there is no game of thrones.
Sophie Turner's statement is so tone deaf. I think the entire fandom respects the work the actors and production crew, it couldn't be anymore clear that the problem that people (including a good portion of the cast apparently) have is the writing and D&D flagrant disregard for ruining something people invested 10 years into for the sake of advancing their own careers.
its disrespectful to give customers a half finished product. those "fans" paid moeny for subscriptions for those 6 episodes. if only actors and writers were forced to give back money when they provide a shitty service. its the only industry were you pay before knowing what youre buying.
Season 8 was perfect !
Except for the writing.
How brilliant missandei wanted to be?, I mean wasn't she the major part of the distruction of kings landing after saying
"Darcayrs"???.
Daenerys went completely heart broken after that.
exactly!
She did not even try to save her. No bargaining, no pleading, not even an exchange (Varys for Missandei).
To bad we will probably never get their actual opinions because of what that can do to their careers. Sophie turner couldn't even look at the writers their entire table reading but still has to say that the petitions are disrespectful, knowing full well practically nobody is criticizing the actors, but to be fair, she was body shamed for years for no discernable reason so her statement is partially due to that fact as well. Conleth was openly depressed and angry about his character ending for months, and now George R.R. Martin's legacy is tarnished with the final two seasons.
0:12 Her reaction sums it up.
The fact that the authour GRR Martin is "vague" about the ending probably says it all. Sophie Turner, not living in the real(!!) world/ or the grown up world view?
I hope they know that the fans loved the actors and their performances even if they disliked the storytelling choices. Personally Varys dying got me the most pissed off.
Conleth Hill might as we have said, "LOOK AT HOW THEY MASSACRED MY BOY, " and he wouldn't have been alone 😊
I contrast this ending with the Supernatural ending after 15 years where not everyone was happy either, but at least it made sense. If you are a hunter long enough, you will die. That's real life. Plus there were a lot of limitations because of COVID-19 that last season. In GOT almost NO ONE was happy because it was just bad writing, the characters had their story arcs broken, and their actions didn't seem realistic. It's like they flipped a coin (or like in D&D games, dumb D&D just rolled the random dice) in deciding who would live & die, who would go crazy, and who would be made king.
nothing in the mess that is season 8 triggered my like rhaegals death. that was by FAR so mind blowingly unrealistic i will never get over it.
same content in vid but different title ? whaou
Lena Headey looks so much better with black hair it's actually insane
Where’s Kit?
You can see why George R R Martin is so adept at writing mysterious characters…
Tywin some sit up the best and clearly with the most honesty
Again. The team did a wonderful job, Miguel Sopochnick is one of the best tv directors out there, but that dosent make up for a terrible script absent of almost all logic.
every fan theory and fake ending is better than the final season's script, my heart goes to to everyone involved with the show but D&D.
Ok now release the real season 8
It’s so appalling that D&D had a goldmine of opportunity to make this such a good show- incredible actors, GRRM giving a fucking goldmine of a story to write and they still screw it up.
they def have a clause in their contracts where they cant trash talk d&d
I know im late to the party but i PRAY they redo the last seasons once GRRM finally writes them. The cast did an AMAZING job no one blames them. There are just too many holes and pointless character arcs
The Council of Surviving Characters was the best.
I have to agree. The fans attitude at the end mystifies me. The series is being called out for things which are allowed to pass in ALL other series and movies. Its meant to be entertainment NOT real life!
2:06 It's not disrespectful to the crew. It's only disrespectful to the writers cos they fucked up. An if they made the final season again the crew would just have more work and pay checks. Which is hard to get in the film biz.
HBO & D&D just don't want to admit they fucked up.
I understand perfectly well that "Got dosen't follow rules of storytelling, it follows rules of life", but you can't...Dany was powerful and merciful, what's happened at the last? 😭
Sophie Turner is ok with season 8 because she becomes Queen in the North 😅
For me the show was 7 seasons, all those episodes building up to winter is coming and then that is gone in one night and daenarys gets killed by John like wtf
Lol these actor defending the season with some half assed claim about the hours spent by the crew and whatever is like asking for an A on a paper you failed just cause you spent hours studying. Smh. Well I guess it isn't easy to throw shade at your boss anywhere 😂
Kristofer has the most amazing beard.
Name Change. Between him and his wife his kids must have insane red hair lol
I've seen so many interviews where the actors say something along the lines of "we worked really hard on this so you can't say it's bad because that's disrespectful"
Maybe it IS disrespectful. Maybe you DID all work really hard on it. But that doesn't mean what you did is good.
Let's say I go into the forest, cut down a tree, shave off the bark, cut the wood into boards, sand them down smooth, screw them together into a box shape, hinge a lid onto it, and paint it all up to make a chest. That's a lot of hard work. If the sides are uneven and the lid doesn't close properly, the paint job is bad and it's near unrecognizable as a chest, ot was still a lot of hard work. But it's a bad chest.
You czn work really hard and still put out a bad product. At the endnof the day that's what happened. You worked really hard, you did your jobs well, but the finished product was jot good.
Charles is like this is a load of shit
Let's be honest here they all were let down by the lazy writing and ending like Most fans, and would have like a happier and more meaningful ending !! But they probably didn't show their Disappointment with it for fear of future acting projects !! But you can see they were not all happy.
"50 something night shots" and they couldn't even light them properly for the audence to see what's going on in screen😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡ahem ok
Martin's final comment sound like:
Will it be the same?
Yes
Will it be executed the same?
No.. come on..
Sophie’s response is wierd. No one is saying the first 6 or 7 seasons of GOT was bad. It was really good for a long time. All we are saying is that season 8 was horrible and an example of why you shouldn’t rush the story when there was no logical reason. I would have rather they ended with the wall coming down in season 7 and leave it at that. Any of us could have imagined a far better ending than what was given.
Uh...... most are commenting on their reaction to the finale.... NOT the fan backlash. UGH
I think this is them just trying not to burn any bridges, they probably agree with fans.
When you have to convince the crew that shit is not shit.