@@johnrobinson7666because he stopped running with Jefferson to cover the flat but nobody was in the flat. There was a check down coming but it’s the responsibility of Woolen to stay with Jefferson, LB had the check down. It’s why Love is sprinting over trying to make a play, Woolen screwed him.
@@gregq8553 woolen has not been good yes but its COV.2 bro thts Love love is guarding NOTHING no crossing routes or anything so wth was he doing back there ? A check down was coming if he stayed with JJ he played it correctly could have jammed him more but he played it right thats on your safety..
I was at this game and man was this a punch in the gut . Geno and woolen gotta be so much better and Grubb needs to go back to college . The amount of Vikings fan I saw there was disgraceful
Yup same, too many rich bratty season tickets holders . I sat next to a group that had season tickets and left after the missed field goal. Those are the types that sell there tickets to visiting teams
Same when I went to the rams game. People were leaving after that pick 6 Geno threw. It sucks but there isn’t much we can do as a fan base out side of just not going to the games as protest.
dude it’s crazy!!! i hate going to games man seen them lose so much this year it’s wild. Fucking bs. And dude there are so many fans who tell you to sit down and not yell it’s wild. Love Brian, he’s totally wrong about the fans they are FUCKING SORRY. They are genuinely Anti Fan man wtf 😂
If you take 12-16 throws out for runs, do the interception still happen? Do the sacks still take place? We will never know at this point. This loss falls squarely on Grubbs inability to run the ball.
I feel like Grubb is just a very self-indulgent person. I think he doesn't enjoy run plays and is obsessed with the pass. So I think he only calls runs when feeling pressured to. I would not be surprised if MacDonald dictated to Grubb on that one great running drive that we are going to run the ball. Grubb needs to be fired after the season.
I'm completely over Grubb. He's shown time and time again he doesn't understand the pro game. In the NFL, you can't get away with just passing on every down. That'll never, ever work. Balance is the key to an effective NFL offense.
I think he's deliberately going against Macdonalds wishes. There's just no other way of reading this. Grubb is more service to self than he comes across, no doubt.
@@AbbeyRoadkill1 Right it's baffling how grubb doesn't seem to understand that Literally EVERYONE knows that except him??? It's more likely that he's doing it on purpose for some reason Sounds kinda crazy but that's sure what it LOOKS like
Imagine the trade value of a Woolen + DK trade, assuming we can unload the payment of DK's contract. That's at least a first and second round pick, plus stocking stuffers
A top afc team might do it A team that's basically sb ready now and could use another big weapon to really give them that extra edge to keep them on top for a couple more seasons Kc, buffalo, texans, pitt, ravens etc
People are way overvaluing the dk trade value, he’d probably get a late 2nd early 3rd because receivers are easier to draft now and he has a huge contract associated with the trade.
@@iron_bison Hahahaha right Walker has missed 4.5 games outta 15 THIS year alone Not including the game they only ran him like 4 times He's a good player WHEN he plays but hawks definitely should not give him the big money if his body isn't durable/or they aren't even gonna use him enough
My hope is that Seattle cleans house this off season, unapologetically. Too much of Pete’s stinch still hovering over this team. It’s a few players playing the assume Mike Macdonald way. And ALOT of them who are not!
Tre Brown needs to be gone. Woolen made plays today and got beat. I also saw Witherspoon beat a few times. I think its growing pains. This team is not that far away from competing. They should've won against a 2 loss team today, and I am excited for the future.
Brian I think the part of the problem is Grubb wants to run the offensive operations differently than Mike, he kind of hinted that on one of his interviews. Grubb probably wants to run more offensive plays in practice.
Thank you for being honest about geno I swear the people who like Geno,You can't say one wrong thing about him or they freak out. When a team mate Breaks your jaw, You might not be The most like guy in the locker room.
I hear what Brian said about the defense not showing up in key moments. I think it was really just the secondary. Jefferson is a HOF talent but they let him run amok today. As for the offense I still think they need another reliable weapon. Since DK likes to disappear at times, it can’t just be JSN.
@@WavyWes Vikings fan here: Jets does this to literally every defense. He looks open because he's unbelievably good at getting talented and well-positioned defenders to look like rookies. Fwiw, Seattle played him the way I would play him: let him get his yards and focus on shutting down down the other guys. The games they lost this year and their closest wins, this is largely the strategy the teams have gone with.
@@iron_bison Idk.. I saw some flashes from Williams, Reed, Mafe, Murphy II minus the facemask penalty.. but I do think they need to find a way to convert some of those pressures into more sacks.
Vikings fan: my perspective is, what is the point of DK? JSN is clearly a #1 from my eyes and a guy you can build around. Watching the game, i never worried about DK. I absolutely worried about JSN.
I was at a loss at how Grubb went back to calling pass plays relentlessly after K9’s 11-yard run. Like is he up there calling plays and then not even watching what’s happening on the field? Is he up there drawing up the next play in the middle of a play?
You should do an episode on "Who is more stubborn: K9 or Grubb?" Both are unwilling to change for the good of the team. I hope Big Mac strikes the fear of God in both their unchanging hearts
@@darkrider962 He should be much more of a downhill runner than he is (power back) And his body isn't durable I won't go so far as to say he's sof But definitely doesn't break as many tackles as he SHOULD
Walker dances around behind the OL like a princess. Charb, on the other hand, finds his gap and hits it like a sledgehammer. We need a ferocious North South runner. Charb is it.
All the Grubb and Geno frustration is so warranted. But good lord, the lack of flag on the Jefferson final TD as Derick Hall rushes the passer bothers me. The LT had a hold & hands to his face. That’s a flag. This league truly picks and chooses what’s a flag and when it’s a flag. It’s a problem.
What about the eagles game or the Vikings game a couple years ago? JSN isn’t making a 1 on 1 prayer ball and he wouldn’t have half the stats if dk wasn’t covered all the time
Seems like the easiest solution for those kind of fans because DK is the biggest star on the team. Geno should take the blame for being a one read quarterback.
It's not remotely insane. DK might be even more inconsistent than Geno, and that's saying a lot because Geno's been inconsistent as feck the last 2 years. DK has never come remotely close to fulfilling his potential. He's responsible for as many bad plays as good plays. If the Seahawks can get a 1st round and 3rd round pick for him, they'd be idiots not to take it.
@@lukeschilperoort9934sure. Not geno just throwing to a spot like he's playing for west virginia. Not the bad sack taking out the field goal. But dk....
I get needing to vent frustration. We should have won the game, and Geno making several stupid mistakes in a very important game is unacceptable... But Geno was also responsible for the drives that got 24 points. Everyone wants to point at an easy thing to fix, but easy fixes get you a shit team. Getting rid of Geno right now makes us objectively worse. Even if we draft a QB, trotting them out right away *as the team solidifies under a still new coach*? That's a terrible idea. MM is supposed to be a defensive genius. We've seen a lot of promise, but inconsistency late in the season is not good. Unified coaching and front office, players getting more disciplined, that's what I hope happens this offseason. Wild, dumb moves are exactly the opposite of that. You don't get rid of Woolen. You bench him until he proves he has the drive and discipline. If he doesn't *then* you trade him. Be angry. Be frustrated... but please don't be dumb.
Which is insane given that he should be playing for his 2nd contract right now! If he can't even give consistent effort before he gets paid, imagine how bad it'll be after he gets paid!
I like jeff but you gotta sift through the whacky takes. What else is different about GB?....lets see they have a qb. They can draft oline. They have a run game.
How many times did Geno run in the Vikings game?? The Vikings knew he would not run and just laid back their ears and feasted! A mobile QB would have made a big difference. POMO
I'm a big dk fan and it doesn't get better. But i don't think this team is close to contending. In say 2 more like 3 years will many if these guys be part of that team? If john had a future qb riding the pine and a clue what an oline does i'd be stoked. But he doesn't have either and as such i'm not sure DK's timeline and the teams timeline matchup.
I'd be open to the Seahawks pursuing Darnold in the off-season, but if that doesn't work out, I have to say, despite his flaws, I'd still like to see Geno with a different OC and an improved o-line. I'm not saying the offensive has to be full of All-Pros, but if they can at least improve them to average, and if we have an OC who understands how to call games in the NFL with a balanced attack so Geno doesn't feel pressured to be the hero every game, I think he'd be much better. If those things change and Geno still does Geno shit, then I'm done. I also just don't think there are better options in the draft or free agency, other than Darnold, right now. And I don’t think Geno will attract enough interest that Seattle would have to break the bank for him.
@@HawksFanMattMan I'm hoping they can get Dillon Gabriel in the 2nd or 3rd round. I think he's underrated because of his size. If they can't get Darnold or Gabriel then we might be screwed. Inability to replace Geno with our next franchise QB is Schneider's greatest failure, along with his complete inability to build a competent OL.
2022: 9-8 record. 2023: 9-8. 2024: ........9-8. You diehard Seahawks fans need to wake up, face the facts, and stop dreaming about the Lombardi. The Seahawks are a barely above average, 9-8 team. The Hawks need a new QB, O-line, and now, evidently, CBs. The solution is obvious...draft what you can, and clear up cap space by cutting DK, Lockett, and Geno to pay for some fresh talent. Oh, and go ahead and release Schneider, Jody, Any random Hawks season ticket holder could straighten this team out faster than he ever could.
Big picture. Always frustrating to lose but we looked like we can not only hang with a team but beat them straight up. This is how big games go. Scrapping and clawing and it just went their way. Not giving up the hope. 2025 Super Bowl bound baby!!! 💚💙🦅🙌🏻
They just aren't good enough. Get what we can for Riq and Dk. Probably Dre mont Jones, Lenard Williams, and k9. Let Geno test free agency. Cut locket. Get an o-line. Wish we drafted Carter. John is on the block. Probably wouldn't even extend cross we can't beat a good team. Need an offensive coach. Fant goodbye. Alot of holes to fill but I can't watch this anymore. Clean house. Accumulate picks and money.
Seattle could free up some big money on players who have contributed very little this year. I love Lockett, but he's no longer anywhere remotely close to being worth the 30m cap he's due next year. Dre'Mont Jones' 115th ranked self is outright robbing Seattle next year for a cap hit of 25m, Nwosu is far too injury prone and inconsistent to risk a 21m cap hit on him next year. Noah Fant can't block and contributes very little for a 13m cap hit next year. Those 4 players have contributed very little this year. Then there is Geno, who is due a 38m cap hit next year, yet he's not doing much better than Sam Howell's first year as a starter. Getting rid of those players will clear up 70m after dead cap hits.
@@shanehargus3707 Reed was actually a good value for this year, he only had a cap hit of 6.5m, he isn't under contract for next year, Hankins only had a cap hit of 1.9m and he also isn't under contract for next year.
I have a hard time seeing Grubb being gone. Unless another oc gets fired who do you go get? Another person who has never called plays? Also, why do we look so much more dominate in away games. Even with Arizona we looked like slouches at home but then we go to their house and look like a playoff team, so weird.
Should of won that game? You guys were down all game couldnt get a 3rd down conversion you took the lead for a min and you say should of won?? Wow just homerism
Why not let Sam Howell play the rest of the season? You won't find out what you have in him unless he gets to play more than he got against Green Bay! It will also give Seattle a clearer view of what they need to do at the QB position. Save your job, Grubb, Make the switch and live with it. If you don't you will be fired at the end of the season. What have you got to lose? It's your last chance to save your job!! POMO
Is Sam Darnald a free agent next year…? Nota Geno supporter anymore.. His decisions are good, then terrible? He has thrown an Interception, nearly, Every Game.. but his Interceptions Take Away Points n Give Opponents the Ball Back, Again! Can’t Defend Continual, Interceptions! So many, Why, plays throughout the game by several players…why face mask,ya had him.. n not running the ball More?
Yes, though it hasn't been reported that Darnold has a no-tag clause, so MN can exercise that option as far as we currently know. As a Vikings fan, I love what Sam is doing, but want them to let him go and move onto JJ McCarthy
This is an undisciplined football team and if that does not improve next year drastically it'll be time to move on from Mike McDonald. Jody won't cuz it'll cost her money but she should
Don't even know why Tre Brown played. We all know he sucks! Hope they trade Wollen and DK. They are talented but their lack of efforts hurting our team too much! Trade while they are still somehow worth it.
Same old same old.... Slow start, got to play catch up again which means error free football...... not when you have a BACK UP Qb ... Where is #14 when you need a clutch play ? he supposed to be our star man....Vikings took 30 secs to move the ball when it mattered we stop, start, go backwards, ultimately get sacked or just freeze in the red zone as usual...cant wait for the season to end....
Should have won this game? Sorry, but no. Not at all. If they'd shown us that they're a consistent, formidable offense all season, sure. They did exactly what they should have done and that's what they've done all year: repeated self-inflicted wounds.
I’m so tired of hearing Geno say, “I got to protect the ball better”.
Geno and pete. Together in spirit forever. Just gotta clean things up. Guys always fighting.
Get rid of Woolen, teams know they can throw his way and win. I don’t care how fast he is… he can’t tackle, and the lack of effort is infuriating.
Him walking on that TD to Jefferson infuriates me
Where did Woolen get beat that throw over the top was cover 2
@@johnrobinson7666
Woolen definitely gave up lmfao
Do your eyes not work?
@@johnrobinson7666because he stopped running with Jefferson to cover the flat but nobody was in the flat. There was a check down coming but it’s the responsibility of Woolen to stay with Jefferson, LB had the check down. It’s why Love is sprinting over trying to make a play, Woolen screwed him.
@@gregq8553 woolen has not been good yes but its COV.2 bro thts Love love is guarding NOTHING no crossing routes or anything so wth was he doing back there ? A check down was coming if he stayed with JJ he played it correctly could have jammed him more but he played it right thats on your safety..
Geno got lucky today. He shouldve had at least 2 more ints
🤣🤣
he was horrible dude! Insane how you can just chalk him up for a few Awful plays every game smh 😂
I don't want to see Geno play anymore, I really don't. I'm not going to watch them trot this same shit-sandwich of a team out next year.
Yeah ive definitely already seen a lifetime of smith
I was at this game and man was this a punch in the gut . Geno and woolen gotta be so much better and Grubb needs to go back to college . The amount of Vikings fan I saw there was disgraceful
Yup same, too many rich bratty season tickets holders . I sat next to a group that had season tickets and left after the missed field goal. Those are the types that sell there tickets to visiting teams
Same when I went to the rams game. People were leaving after that pick 6 Geno threw. It sucks but there isn’t much we can do as a fan base out side of just not going to the games as protest.
dude it’s crazy!!! i hate going to games man seen them lose so much this year it’s wild. Fucking bs. And dude there are so many fans who tell you to sit down and not yell it’s wild. Love Brian, he’s totally wrong about the fans they are FUCKING SORRY. They are genuinely Anti Fan man wtf 😂
If you take 12-16 throws out for runs, do the interception still happen? Do the sacks still take place? We will never know at this point. This loss falls squarely on Grubbs inability to run the ball.
Facts
Exactly
Geno is done.
I feel like Grubb is just a very self-indulgent person. I think he doesn't enjoy run plays and is obsessed with the pass. So I think he only calls runs when feeling pressured to. I would not be surprised if MacDonald dictated to Grubb on that one great running drive that we are going to run the ball. Grubb needs to be fired after the season.
I'm completely over Grubb. He's shown time and time again he doesn't understand the pro game. In the NFL, you can't get away with just passing on every down. That'll never, ever work. Balance is the key to an effective NFL offense.
I think he's deliberately going against Macdonalds wishes. There's just no other way of reading this. Grubb is more service to self than he comes across, no doubt.
@@AbbeyRoadkill1
Right it's baffling how grubb doesn't seem to understand that
Literally EVERYONE knows that except him???
It's more likely that he's doing it on purpose for some reason
Sounds kinda crazy but that's sure what it LOOKS like
@@Richard-il6wc
Right exactly theres no way grubs calling the best possible offense that he can
Impossible
@@Richard-il6wc😂😂😂😂
Imagine the trade value of a Woolen + DK trade, assuming we can unload the payment of DK's contract. That's at least a first and second round pick, plus stocking stuffers
Except teams don't trade that for a wr anymore. I'm confused if woolen isn't good and he's not who is trading big picks for him.
@@ST-mr9dd I wouldn’t want them in a trade.
A top afc team might do it
A team that's basically sb ready now and could use another big weapon to really give them that extra edge to keep them on top for a couple more seasons
Kc, buffalo, texans, pitt, ravens etc
@@Dreadeyeknightpitt apparently did call about DK. Truly weird they didn't do that move if true. Would be fun to see DK and Pickens with Russ.
People are way overvaluing the dk trade value, he’d probably get a late 2nd early 3rd because receivers are easier to draft now and he has a huge contract associated with the trade.
K9 is the Russel Wilson of running backs. Charb follows his blockers and takes what is there
Minus russ was good and played.
@@iron_bison
Hahahaha right
Walker has missed 4.5 games outta 15 THIS year alone
Not including the game they only ran him like 4 times
He's a good player WHEN he plays but hawks definitely should not give him the big money if his body isn't durable/or they aren't even gonna use him enough
@@Dreadeyeknightand just for extra laughs apparently he has an ankle injury....
My hope is that Seattle cleans house this off season, unapologetically. Too much of Pete’s stinch still hovering over this team. It’s a few players playing the assume Mike Macdonald way. And ALOT of them who are not!
Pete? Try john.
Agreed!!
Gonna take a few years to completely get the "carol virus" out of their system
Tre Brown needs to be gone. Woolen made plays today and got beat. I also saw Witherspoon beat a few times. I think its growing pains. This team is not that far away from competing. They should've won against a 2 loss team today, and I am excited for the future.
Brian I think the part of the problem is Grubb wants to run the offensive operations differently than Mike, he kind of hinted that on one of his interviews. Grubb probably wants to run more offensive plays in practice.
Brian, I agree with your statement re: resigning Geno vs. casual fan opinion.
It's not a good move by management at all.
Woolen's lack of effort is plainly obvious. He should be benched for a game and told if he wants to start he needs to give 100% every play.
Thank you for being honest about geno I swear the people who like Geno,You can't say one wrong thing about him or they freak out. When a team mate Breaks your jaw, You might not be
The most like guy in the locker room.
Hahahaha fr smith is like a cult with some of these people
I believe complimentary football is finding balance in the pass and run game and having complimentary defense to back up thenoffense
Well thank you captain OBVIOUS!!
I hear what Brian said about the defense not showing up in key moments. I think it was really just the secondary. Jefferson is a HOF talent but they let him run amok today. As for the offense I still think they need another reliable weapon. Since DK likes to disappear at times, it can’t just be JSN.
@@WavyWes Vikings fan here: Jets does this to literally every defense. He looks open because he's unbelievably good at getting talented and well-positioned defenders to look like rookies. Fwiw, Seattle played him the way I would play him: let him get his yards and focus on shutting down down the other guys. The games they lost this year and their closest wins, this is largely the strategy the teams have gone with.
Respectfully the dline did next to nothing today.
@@iron_bison Idk.. I saw some flashes from Williams, Reed, Mafe, Murphy II minus the facemask penalty.. but I do think they need to find a way to convert some of those pressures into more sacks.
Vikings fan: my perspective is, what is the point of DK? JSN is clearly a #1 from my eyes and a guy you can build around. Watching the game, i never worried about DK. I absolutely worried about JSN.
Geno had 4+ turnover worthy plays; Seahawks should not have won that game.
Seattle should trade DK for Parsons. Wasting DK in this scheme, get MacDonald a stud defensive playmaker.
That would be awesome!
The first time the Vikings had won in Seattle in nearly a decade.
Vikings fan here: our fanbase is well aware. Feels like we have been traveling to Seattle every year for over a decade, and losing every time.
We are who we are at this point. It’s sad but it’s reality. We have building to do
We should have won the game! We did self destruct
Nah, Sam Darnold and the Vikings beat you. It wasn't a meltdown. The Vikings are an elite team.
@@ryandaley3351 The Viqueens will get stomped in the playoffs like they always do.
I was at a loss at how Grubb went back to calling pass plays relentlessly after K9’s 11-yard run. Like is he up there calling plays and then not even watching what’s happening on the field? Is he up there drawing up the next play in the middle of a play?
Geno needs to go, we have too many penalties didn’t take advantage
K9 looked like he ran into tackles
You should do an episode on "Who is more stubborn: K9 or Grubb?" Both are unwilling to change for the good of the team. I hope Big Mac strikes the fear of God in both their unchanging hearts
I think k9 is hurting the team as well. He doesn’t need to be getting the bulk of the plays
Could you elaborate on K9 a bit for people who don't know what you're referring to?
@@darkrider962he can't/won't run forward. He looks to hit a homerun.
@@darkrider962
He should be much more of a downhill runner than he is
(power back)
And his body isn't durable
I won't go so far as to say he's sof
But definitely doesn't break as many tackles as he SHOULD
Walker dances around behind the OL like a princess. Charb, on the other hand, finds his gap and hits it like a sledgehammer. We need a ferocious North South runner. Charb is it.
Macdonald and his last 2 bosses (total yards allowed on the season):
Chargers: 5069
Ravens: 5070
Seahawks: 5074 🤯
Chargers are #1 on scoring defense.
John Schneider needs to step the F up and stop with this nonsense, it's time to actually build this team.
All the Grubb and Geno frustration is so warranted. But good lord, the lack of flag on the Jefferson final TD as Derick Hall rushes the passer bothers me. The LT had a hold & hands to his face. That’s a flag. This league truly picks and chooses what’s a flag and when it’s a flag. It’s a problem.
Charbs had 1 carry?
Gotta do end a rounds with jsn
Yep. One carry. Can you believe it? Grubb is dragging this team down like a anvil tied to a fish. The morale on the offense must be so low.
MIN 4 plays in 30 sec score a TD. OMG
Sam Darnold is elite.
What about the eagles game or the Vikings game a couple years ago? JSN isn’t making a 1 on 1 prayer ball and he wouldn’t have half the stats if dk wasn’t covered all the time
You guys remember Almost Live! You guys are the Seattle Heavy Metal community doing The Lame List.
Perfect. Evan on a phone call is like a skit on almost live.
It’s wild how they blame DK and want him gone….. insane really
Seems like the easiest solution for those kind of fans because DK is the biggest star on the team. Geno should take the blame for being a one read quarterback.
It's not remotely insane. DK might be even more inconsistent than Geno, and that's saying a lot because Geno's been inconsistent as feck the last 2 years. DK has never come remotely close to fulfilling his potential. He's responsible for as many bad plays as good plays. If the Seahawks can get a 1st round and 3rd round pick for him, they'd be idiots not to take it.
@@AbbeyRoadkill1watch his 2020 highlights and please shut up.
@@hostilewarrior03 DK deserves the blame. He quit on that route and it lost them the game.
@@lukeschilperoort9934sure. Not geno just throwing to a spot like he's playing for west virginia. Not the bad sack taking out the field goal. But dk....
I get needing to vent frustration. We should have won the game, and Geno making several stupid mistakes in a very important game is unacceptable...
But Geno was also responsible for the drives that got 24 points. Everyone wants to point at an easy thing to fix, but easy fixes get you a shit team.
Getting rid of Geno right now makes us objectively worse. Even if we draft a QB, trotting them out right away *as the team solidifies under a still new coach*? That's a terrible idea.
MM is supposed to be a defensive genius. We've seen a lot of promise, but inconsistency late in the season is not good. Unified coaching and front office, players getting more disciplined, that's what I hope happens this offseason.
Wild, dumb moves are exactly the opposite of that. You don't get rid of Woolen. You bench him until he proves he has the drive and discipline.
If he doesn't *then* you trade him.
Be angry. Be frustrated... but please don't be dumb.
Tariq just looked so lazy at times today, like he really just didn’t care
Which is insane given that he should be playing for his 2nd contract right now!
If he can't even give consistent effort before he gets paid, imagine how bad it'll be after he gets paid!
@@darkrider962exactly, don’t draft players with his personality
@@darkrider962RIGHT!!!!!
Mentally weak and service to self.
Mentally weak and service to self.
The f'n penalties!! 😢
All those cheap Greenbay receivers are all going into contract years, they can’t afford to keep them all. None of them are also not as good as DK.
I like jeff but you gotta sift through the whacky takes. What else is different about GB?....lets see they have a qb. They can draft oline. They have a run game.
How many times did Geno run in the Vikings game?? The Vikings knew he would not run and just laid back their ears and feasted! A mobile QB would have made a big difference. POMO
How does this offense get better with DK gone? Hope someone inside that building tells him a local beat reporter is constantly talking crap about him.
I'm a big dk fan and it doesn't get better. But i don't think this team is close to contending. In say 2 more like 3 years will many if these guys be part of that team? If john had a future qb riding the pine and a clue what an oline does i'd be stoked. But he doesn't have either and as such i'm not sure DK's timeline and the teams timeline matchup.
I'd be open to the Seahawks pursuing Darnold in the off-season, but if that doesn't work out, I have to say, despite his flaws, I'd still like to see Geno with a different OC and an improved o-line. I'm not saying the offensive has to be full of All-Pros, but if they can at least improve them to average, and if we have an OC who understands how to call games in the NFL with a balanced attack so Geno doesn't feel pressured to be the hero every game, I think he'd be much better. If those things change and Geno still does Geno shit, then I'm done. I also just don't think there are better options in the draft or free agency, other than Darnold, right now. And I don’t think Geno will attract enough interest that Seattle would have to break the bank for him.
@@HawksFanMattMan I'm hoping they can get Dillon Gabriel in the 2nd or 3rd round. I think he's underrated because of his size. If they can't get Darnold or Gabriel then we might be screwed. Inability to replace Geno with our next franchise QB is Schneider's greatest failure, along with his complete inability to build a competent OL.
2022: 9-8 record. 2023: 9-8. 2024: ........9-8. You diehard Seahawks fans need to wake up, face the facts, and stop dreaming about the Lombardi. The Seahawks are a barely above average, 9-8 team. The Hawks need a new QB, O-line, and now, evidently, CBs. The solution is obvious...draft what you can, and clear up cap space by cutting DK, Lockett, and Geno to pay for some fresh talent. Oh, and go ahead and release Schneider, Jody, Any random Hawks season ticket holder could straighten this team out faster than he ever could.
Well said!!
I completely agree
You are delusional....
Big picture. Always frustrating to lose but we looked like we can not only hang with a team but beat them straight up. This is how big games go. Scrapping and clawing and it just went their way. Not giving up the hope. 2025 Super Bowl bound baby!!! 💚💙🦅🙌🏻
They're definitely headed to the SB next year... if they could trade Geno for Josh Allen.
@@AbbeyRoadkill1
Yeah allen or mahomes
And the lions o line
And like 5 or 6 new defense guys
@@Dreadeyeknightso youre telling me there's a chance!
We had time at the end, didn’t need to throw the ball he panicked
They just aren't good enough. Get what we can for Riq and Dk. Probably Dre mont Jones, Lenard Williams, and k9. Let Geno test free agency. Cut locket. Get an o-line. Wish we drafted Carter. John is on the block. Probably wouldn't even extend cross we can't beat a good team. Need an offensive coach. Fant goodbye. Alot of holes to fill but I can't watch this anymore. Clean house. Accumulate picks and money.
Seattle could free up some big money on players who have contributed very little this year. I love Lockett, but he's no longer anywhere remotely close to being worth the 30m cap he's due next year. Dre'Mont Jones' 115th ranked self is outright robbing Seattle next year for a cap hit of 25m, Nwosu is far too injury prone and inconsistent to risk a 21m cap hit on him next year. Noah Fant can't block and contributes very little for a 13m cap hit next year. Those 4 players have contributed very little this year. Then there is Geno, who is due a 38m cap hit next year, yet he's not doing much better than Sam Howell's first year as a starter. Getting rid of those players will clear up 70m after dead cap hits.
Those 5 players would free up 70m next year, and their 59m dead cap hit would free up the following year, for a total of 129m.
@Jason-lk9yi Yes, nwosu gotta go too, + Reed and Hankens are sad but true just can't stand more of the same.
@@shanehargus3707 Reed was actually a good value for this year, he only had a cap hit of 6.5m, he isn't under contract for next year, Hankins only had a cap hit of 1.9m and he also isn't under contract for next year.
I have a hard time seeing Grubb being gone. Unless another oc gets fired who do you go get? Another person who has never called plays? Also, why do we look so much more dominate in away games. Even with Arizona we looked like slouches at home but then we go to their house and look like a playoff team, so weird.
Should of won that game? You guys were down all game couldnt get a 3rd down conversion you took the lead for a min and you say should of won?? Wow just homerism
The better team won definitely
Agreed no confidence
I expected less from seahawks in this game. At least it was entartaining.
Why not let Sam Howell play the rest of the season? You won't find out what you have in him unless he gets to play more than he got against Green Bay! It will also give Seattle a clearer view of what they need to do at the QB position. Save your job, Grubb, Make the switch and live with it. If you don't you will be fired at the end of the season. What have you got to lose? It's your last chance to save your job!! POMO
Is Sam Darnald a free agent next year…? Nota Geno supporter anymore.. His decisions are good, then terrible? He has thrown an Interception, nearly, Every Game.. but his Interceptions Take Away Points n Give Opponents the Ball Back, Again! Can’t Defend Continual, Interceptions! So many, Why, plays throughout the game by several players…why face mask,ya had him.. n not running the ball More?
Yes, though it hasn't been reported that Darnold has a no-tag clause, so MN can exercise that option as far as we currently know.
As a Vikings fan, I love what Sam is doing, but want them to let him go and move onto JJ McCarthy
B-Murph is mad and says it was a BS call. Welp don't grab the face mask, rook!!!
Dam he really said that?
The facemask was clear as day lmfao
This is an undisciplined football team and if that does not improve next year drastically it'll be time to move on from Mike McDonald. Jody won't cuz it'll cost her money but she should
Said it in the SDB gane stream but how much better is this team w/o the wall of penalties? Forget everything else. 1? 2? Wins better right now.
Macdonald is not the problem.
@@Richard-il6wcwhat's with the penalties
Don't even know why Tre Brown played. We all know he sucks! Hope they trade Wollen and DK. They are talented but their lack of efforts hurting our team too much! Trade while they are still somehow worth it.
Same old same old.... Slow start, got to play catch up again which means error free football...... not when you have a BACK UP Qb ... Where is #14 when you need a clutch play ? he supposed to be our star man....Vikings took 30 secs to move the ball when it mattered we stop, start, go backwards, ultimately get sacked or just freeze in the red zone as usual...cant wait for the season to end....
Simmons has the most pedestrian "takes" I've ever heard. Why is he on this show?
Grubb gone
We should have beat the Rams, Vikings…
We should beat the Rams. Vikings. Giants.
@@KosmicHeartBeatz lol losin to the giants is insane
Just a win against the Giants alone would mean that we would still be playing for the division in week 18!
Should have won this game? Sorry, but no. Not at all. If they'd shown us that they're a consistent, formidable offense all season, sure. They did exactly what they should have done and that's what they've done all year: repeated self-inflicted wounds.
I’m not out on DK, something’s off with Grubb n Geno to DK?!
Is Tyler too old? Or did he not get enough plays? He’s a spark plug for the fans
He’s the 3rd option or decoy or pick on a bunch of plays
He also has 2x in 2 weeks missed key first downs by not getting to the sticks.
Wouldn't be surprised it locket hangs it up after this year
Because he knows he's definitely never winning a sb in seattle
@@Dreadeyeknight He should hang it up or be let go, he's no longer even remotely close to being worth the 31m cap hit he carries next year.
@@Jason-lk9yi
Wow 31 mill is bonkers lol
Wish our first round pick was a blue chip. Big L and dont troll me with analytics bullshit