The HYPOCRISY of Forced Speech & Trigger Warnings - Tom Nash (4K) | heretics 63

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  • Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024

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  • @andrewgoldheretics
    @andrewgoldheretics  2 месяца назад +46

    Do you have examples of unhelpful and unnecessary 'micro-aggressions'? Can you relate to the gamification of victimhood? Let me know below, and hit like and subscribe!

    • @jwsuicides8095
      @jwsuicides8095 2 месяца назад +20

      I'm looking forward to this and "meeting" your friend..
      As a disabled person (tiny violins) life has been effing dangerously hard at times. I wouldn't say it's been down to "micro-aggressions" though. Maybe I'm misreading what they are but I don't give a sh*t about micro-aggressions as my problems have been the in-your-face-prejudice-and-blocking-of-the-basics-needed-to-live. I had to fight to be fed, watered, clean, have human contact. That might not seem credible in the West but, believe me, it's been true and the lack of such nearly killed me.
      As for the word "victim" it has become overused. A "victim" is, for example, a murdered child or an elderly person scammed out of their life savings, etc. Nowadays if you get Covid-19 you're classified as a "victim"...no, you're not a victim. Look at msm news reports as to whom they classify as "victims', it's bloody ridiculous.
      There are still real struggles and victimisation out there and when we whine and cry about the non-things we disrespect those who really should be heard and considered with how we move forward.
      Yes, everyone IS "special" but the problem is that so many have been told it is their right to be SEEN to be "special", and victimhood can publicly fast-track someone to that public status. Many people claiming to be victims just need to grow up and get some real problems...
      ...ooh, I sound hard but there's only so much poop someone can listen to.

    • @rottsandspots
      @rottsandspots 2 месяца назад +13

      @@jwsuicides8095I agree. I am disabled but it never stopped me doing anything until it did. Suddenly I couldn’t work - or get out of bed, wash, feed myself etc then the ‘help’ was non existent or in a form which was useless.
      I don’t care about micro aggression- being autistic I’d never notice anyway. I care about having dignity in my life. About having a washing machine, a cooker, a fridge, a bed, as if you are long term disabled there’s no saving up for these items once they break, and the promised help? You know what I will say. Micro aggression v a fridge. No contest. I’ll take that micro aggression for all of the white goods I need.Sticks and stones etc.
      I now train dogs, when I can, including assistance dogs, - for medical alert and other tasks, so people can live independent lives.
      Should be an excellent episode.

    • @rottsandspots
      @rottsandspots 2 месяца назад +5

      To answer Andrews question- I suppose the micro aggression most autistic people have would have, would be ‘ you don’t look autistic’ or ‘ everyone’s a bit autistic’ in the same way everyone is a bit pregnant 😂 - oh bad example- that will set the woke people off. I don’t care. Why should I? It’s well intended not any sort of insult.

    • @christianschmidt5744
      @christianschmidt5744 2 месяца назад +4

      Don’t get me started.. I’m a public school teacher… I have been attempted to be re educated… kids don’t deserve this nonsense .. love

    • @rationalbacon5872
      @rationalbacon5872 2 месяца назад +8

      Micro aggressions are imaginary slights. The term only exists to justify crybaby behaviour.

  • @colinclement2752
    @colinclement2752 2 месяца назад +177

    This is a man who could legitimately cry victim every day if he wanted. Instead he CHOOSES to be strong and overcome. Hats off to you sir.

    • @NotLikeLee
      @NotLikeLee 2 месяца назад +4

      A little condescending,this is a micro aggression 😂 nice one

    • @EyeofSekhmet
      @EyeofSekhmet 2 месяца назад +7

      The real victims are not yelling it from the rooftops...they mostly keep quiet because talking about it constantly makes it feel worse. Just trying to live life and get by.

    • @davidmcnaughty4889
      @davidmcnaughty4889 2 месяца назад

      Yeah, don't you wish black people would do the same?

    • @j_freed
      @j_freed 2 месяца назад +1

      Yes and no, taking the "pity prize" in life shuts you off from the world.
      We have all met negative people, so we should know that attitude influences our reality. This could be the supreme lesson of our entire life.😊

    • @lil-al
      @lil-al 2 месяца назад +3

      @@NotLikeLee micro aggression - another made up term describing nothing.

  • @Beard_Hood
    @Beard_Hood 2 месяца назад +141

    That is an excellent quote "it's a form a soft bigotry to say that disabled people don't have the agency to determine if what another person is saying is ment to be offensive or not."

    • @souxcasa
      @souxcasa 2 месяца назад +16

      As someone with hidden disabilities I've found the people more aggressive towards people with disabilities are the people who use language like "micro-aggressions". Particularly if your disability is neurological or linguistic. They are the worst for treating people badly for having a disability

    • @Sarah-with-an-H
      @Sarah-with-an-H 2 месяца назад +9

      ​@@souxcasaMy disabilities arent as invisible as they used to be. My biggest problems are that people tend to police things like handicapped parking and flowery language like differently abled wich indicates somebody's hangup with the truth and needing to cushion the language. I find that more offensive than being honest.

    • @skepticusmaximus184
      @skepticusmaximus184 2 месяца назад +5

      Especially if your disability is impotence. *SOFT* bigotry is such a cruel thing

    • @souxcasa
      @souxcasa 2 месяца назад +5

      @@Sarah-with-an-H I prefer the truth too.

    • @uptownonfriday
      @uptownonfriday 2 месяца назад

      ​@@skepticusmaximus184😂😂😂

  • @trishlangford5773
    @trishlangford5773 2 месяца назад +198

    This whole aggressive speech thing about pronouns, ableism, trans, pride, gender nonsense has only made people LESS understanding and MORE hostile. Certainly hasn't brought the majority around to their causes. How unpredictable
    NOT.

    • @markshepperson3603
      @markshepperson3603 2 месяца назад

      Original sin is alive and well. Grovelling to some cause in a show of virtue to apologise for the crime of coming out of your mothers vagina.

    • @super_morto
      @super_morto 2 месяца назад +6

      That was the point.....

    • @pearlosibu
      @pearlosibu 2 месяца назад +12

      @thenuntno

    • @tensaijuusan4653
      @tensaijuusan4653 2 месяца назад +1

      @thenunt No one more intolerant, divisive, and racist than the virtual signalling, self hating, "woke" SJW.

    • @BennyMcGibbon
      @BennyMcGibbon 2 месяца назад +11

      I've definitely noticed a more nasty hard culture out there even though there's this constant barrage of faux niceness.

  • @EyeofSekhmet
    @EyeofSekhmet 2 месяца назад +32

    "Disabled" is not an insult. It is a word to describe not being able to do what able-bodied people can, plain and simple. I have a chronic illness, physical disability and autism and because of this, I can't do certain things that others find easy, but there are some people who can't even manage what I can. I resent a lot of things that I cannot do, but I am at the same time, grateful for what I am capable of. My kids are very much aware that I am not quite like the other mommies, but they don't know anything different.

  • @ingridioanahuma6470
    @ingridioanahuma6470 2 месяца назад +53

    A Romanian joke with Jews:
    Hitler asked an astrologist to foretell him when he was going to die.
    The astrologist: "On a Jewish holiday."
    Hitler asked: "How so?"
    The Astrologist: "Because no matter what day it is, it will be a Jewish holiday."

    • @RuthGorst
      @RuthGorst 2 месяца назад +6

      I like this joke simply because it is funny.

    • @Madonnalitta1
      @Madonnalitta1 2 месяца назад +1

      😂 Thanks for sharing.

  • @Deepfake820
    @Deepfake820 2 месяца назад +83

    Control masquerading as compassion

    • @katrines9281
      @katrines9281 2 месяца назад +6

      bingo

    • @Sarah-with-an-H
      @Sarah-with-an-H 2 месяца назад +5

      Real compassion is honesty mixed with kindness

    • @justlorelle4249
      @justlorelle4249 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@Sarah-with-an-H& has boundaries ❤

    • @ninagohlsson6053
      @ninagohlsson6053 2 месяца назад

      Well put. And a lot of manipulation in stead of communication (as Michael Malice puts it).

    • @JohnSmith-lk8cy
      @JohnSmith-lk8cy 2 месяца назад

      100% gaslighting by narcissists.

  • @HukkitukkiUK
    @HukkitukkiUK 2 месяца назад +62

    Never trust anyone who won’t offend you.

  • @user-cn1zc6jx8n
    @user-cn1zc6jx8n 2 месяца назад +26

    Hi loved listening to Tom. My adopted daughter was profoundly disabled, she was born in 1984. In those days children like Kate were put into long term hospitals, which were awful (I'm not over stating). She would have died at a very early age The doctors explained to me that she would probably not live past 5. I was a single parent, I had no experience of issues around disability and there were plenty. I wanted her to have a normal a life as possible, but we were segregated in all aspects of life. People would shun us, they wouldn't allow us to come into there spaces or buildings. So I decided to go to those spaces. I was never angry with them, I allowed them to say what they thought and try to answer their questions. I never expelled or cancelled anyone. I later found out that this was called 'inclusion'. I invited people into Kate's life so they could learn from her and expand their views of people with disabilities, eg they didn't need to be frightened of them or saying the wrong thing.
    Kate and I accomplished this she went to mainstream school, she made loads of friends and we used all the community facilities. This was with person who couldn't see, talk, walk and loads of other things, but by encouraging people to enter our circle they could see that Kate was not a threat, they could see and feel her beautiful strong and positive character, she had a great laugh and she had an aura of love, happiness and joy and best of all she lived until she was 25. Nowadays I don't recognise the term inclusion, its been turned into something that is horrible, poisonous and decisive. That's why I loved listening to Tom, it so represents our dream - living an inclusive life.

    • @RuthIreland-qk4cp
      @RuthIreland-qk4cp 2 месяца назад +4

      Thank you for telling us about your lovely daughter. I agree with you about the warping of the word/concept of inclusion.

    • @Madonnalitta1
      @Madonnalitta1 2 месяца назад

      People often cannot see with their eyes, it takes a heart to really see.
      It sounds like that is what your daughter gave them.

  • @rivka8576
    @rivka8576 2 месяца назад +24

    This man is an example of you receive the energy you put out into the world.

    • @jwsuicides8095
      @jwsuicides8095 2 месяца назад +1

      There is a problem though when you're so disabled and paralysed and without speech and not being helped that you cannot put out energy into the world...every breath is hard.

  • @pegm5937
    @pegm5937 2 месяца назад +28

    "The soft bigotry of low expectations" I love that! ❤

  • @rightwing707
    @rightwing707 2 месяца назад +27

    Not 4 minutes in and Tom handily sums up my views on the concept of policed speech. What an absolute legend. I've been watching the channel for a good while now and find the show to be great background noise while I do other stuff. This has to be my favourite episode to date, what an incredible guest. People really need to wake up to the reality of victim complexes and the epidemic that's been plaguing the west for years now. If Tom can push past his experiences and come out a solid bloke with a sense of humour, why can't more able-bodied victims?

    • @hookie
      @hookie 2 месяца назад +5

      Thanks for the kind words!

  • @Do_Not_Comply_V
    @Do_Not_Comply_V 2 месяца назад +8

    We REALLY like this guy. It's awful he's so injured as life can be hard enough. He talks absolutely nothing but COMMON SENSE and he's RIGHT. TOTALLY RIGHT WITH FREE SPEECH.

  • @HenryThree
    @HenryThree 2 месяца назад +18

    I watched his speech at Dissident Dialogues and he got more laughs than the people who were there specifically to do comedy, he is a truly excellent speaker. I got to speak to him a bit after the event, and he is such a chill yet intelligent guy.

    • @hookie
      @hookie 2 месяца назад +1

      You’re too kind! I can’t recognise you through your handle but I’m sure we had a great chat! Thank you for watching!

  • @tchocky71
    @tchocky71 2 месяца назад +12

    Great thanks to this lovely fellow, Tom Nash, for representing Australians is a positive manner! I could listen to him talk for hours.
    This conversation has been intelligent and enthralling. Regarding Andrew's words at approximately 34:40, I hope that we will see more attention or followers given to you RUclips journalists who tell the truth, which is a relief after the biased and homogenised commercial news we have been subjected to.

  • @Namelbmert
    @Namelbmert 2 месяца назад +12

    "Bold decision not to become a paralympian..."
    Brilliant!

  • @stephanieoconnell2343
    @stephanieoconnell2343 2 месяца назад +31

    Andrew this channel is brilliant!! Love watching you grow!!

  • @trixie-bellfaith5380
    @trixie-bellfaith5380 2 месяца назад +6

    Bless you Tom. So glad to see you after 23 years and you are still inspiring people! I last saw you at Newington Prep in Lindfield in 2002 when you came to talk to the boys. I was junior primary teacher aide at the time and you made such a strong impression on me. I’ve never forgotten your amazing testimony. All the very best.

  • @pilatesrebalance
    @pilatesrebalance 2 месяца назад +9

    What a brilliant attitude and intelligent approach to adversity. Great conversation. Inspiring man. Much love ❤️

  • @tchocky71
    @tchocky71 2 месяца назад +8

    Great thanks to this lovely fellow, Tom Nash, for representing Australians is a positive manner! I could listen to him talk for hours.

    • @hookie
      @hookie 2 месяца назад +1

      You’re welcome to if you wish 😂❤

  • @christianschmidt5744
    @christianschmidt5744 2 месяца назад +9

    Honesty is alive and well.. thank you Mates

  • @LillianEmerald
    @LillianEmerald 2 месяца назад +38

    I work in Tier 2 support and was recently told by our very woke company that we can no longer say "disabled" so as to not offend anyone. I now have to say "deactivate". Can not WAIT for the robots to take over and grow a conscious so that we can figure out what comes next. Tom is an absolute legend! It's not my job to police someone else's feelings or worry about what they are offended by. If you don't like the words that come out of my mouth, walk away? There are far greater things in life we should be focusing on!

    • @realMaverickBuckley
      @realMaverickBuckley 2 месяца назад +7

      Deactivate???? Surely that IS offensive ? Or at least more offensive.

    • @jillruben8924
      @jillruben8924 2 месяца назад +6

      Deactivate doesn’t even make sense.
      Are disabled people truly offended with that word?

    • @joss8558
      @joss8558 2 месяца назад +6

      "Walk away" ??! That's an ableist
      micro-aggression right there.

    • @thewhiterabbituk
      @thewhiterabbituk 2 месяца назад +1

      deactivated? in the UK?

    • @Sarah-with-an-H
      @Sarah-with-an-H 2 месяца назад +5

      ​@@jillruben8924no most disabled people peeffer the honesty of the word disabled.

  • @lj1529
    @lj1529 2 месяца назад +13

    'i think there is a tendency in big companies to obsess about language and the diversity of their staff and how it makes them look at the expense of the practical. As a disabled person what do I want ?,Chairs, chairs everywhere! So I can rest mid supermarket shop. My employer not to change the coffee holders from a lift up lid to a jar I can't effing open with my hands. Its the little stuff that grates not language and micro aggressions

    • @BettyWhite2171
      @BettyWhite2171 2 месяца назад

      Chairs all over would be cool. But here we have little carts that we drive. Very helpful! I wouldn't be able to food shop without those. Unfortunately only a few stores have them.

  • @Uncivilize
    @Uncivilize 2 месяца назад +5

    Here's a word play: I realized we no longer say "marginal" groups, we say, "marginalized" groups. There's a clear indication that it was done TO them. In other words, the oppressor/oppressed model within language.

  • @Aengus42
    @Aengus42 2 месяца назад +13

    Sheltering from torrential rain in a shop doorway a woman said to me "My feet are soaked!"
    I said "Mine too! I can't feel my toes!" as I looked down at my prosthetics purely so she'd look down & giggle when she saw the carbon fibre, stainless steel & aluminium as in; "Of course you can't feel your toes, you ain't got any feet ya wazzock! 😂".
    But it didn't go that way.
    Instead I got a stern lecture on "You Shouldn't Laugh at Disabilities!" 😯
    Even when it's your own disability it seems! Ridiculous!
    07:40 An incredibly drunk, very broad Glaswegian woman came up to me in the street... (I won't type the accent, but it was cliché "See yoo Jimmeh" impenetrable Glaswegian & the alcohol turned it into performance art! I could've listened to her for hours!) ... and she asked how I'd lost my legs. I said "Well, you know the Spanish island with the feral hamsters, erm... Isla de los Hámsters?" When she said "Yeah!" I knew she was mine (there isn't such an island btw).
    I went on; "We were having a beach party & I got pretty hammered & passed out away from the fire under some bushes..."
    "Bin there Jimmeh! (Bugger! I said I wasn't going to do the accent...)
    "Well, the feral hamsters started on my legs poking into the undergrowth. I didn't feel anything until it was too late. Then someone heard me screaming & frightened off the hamsters, now in a feeding frenzy, with flaming torches..."
    "Oh my god!"
    "Yup, and even by hovercraft to the mainland it was too late to save my legs. Tgey actually found hamster incisors in my shin bone!"
    "Jeeeeezus!"
    "Look, they even got these two fingers as I tried to fight them off!" (I'd lost legs & fingers to sepsis, but that's not very exciting ur funny to tell.)
    She went for it, disappearing back into the shoppers muttering after shaking my hand saying "It's amazin' you're here with us!"
    That was my most successful BS story to date.
    I wear British Army combat shorts because they're easy to get on & off over prosthetics & I used to live in long combats anyway (was big into camping).
    But I've had to say "No! They weren't blown off! I was never in the army, they kinda rotted off with sepsis." whenever someone says that cringeworthy americanism "Thank you for your service!" & shakes me manically by the hand.
    And to a person they look like they want to say "Only sepsis? Oh dear." ☹️ They look like they dropped fifty quid & found a fiver. They really wanted my legs to have been blown off! 😆 I think they want a tale of derring-do. But that's one story you won't catch me making up, that's not right at all. Those people get the truth, no matter how much it disappoints them...

    • @Camille_Anderson
      @Camille_Anderson 2 месяца назад +1

      As a Glaswegian, I can imagine that happening!! We try to face adversity with humour, lol!! It keeps us from getting too morbid! One thing though, I've never heard any one of us actually say See you, Jimmy!!! 😂😂

    • @Aengus42
      @Aengus42 2 месяца назад

      @@Camille_Anderson I used the cliché as it's now an international cliché & describes the exact accent in a few words.
      It was easier than howling Tramps & Hawkers! 😆

    • @Madonnalitta1
      @Madonnalitta1 2 месяца назад +1

      Damn, I'm looking at my daughters hampster in a totally new light.
      If the dog disappears, I'll know who to blame!

    • @Aengus42
      @Aengus42 2 месяца назад

      @@Madonnalitta1 Once those seed eatin' vegetarians taste blood... 😱

  • @whatevs1700
    @whatevs1700 2 месяца назад +2

    What a legend. Perfect example of a positive mindset.

  • @281992pdr
    @281992pdr 2 месяца назад +59

    The concept of 'Microaggressions' is one of the more silly labels that our modern society has invented. I have travelled to some really interesting places. For nearly twenty years I have known that asking someone, especially say, someone who does not look or sound like they are from the dominant culture, "Where are you from?" is verboten, a 'microaggression'. I have been asked by strangers in Papua New Guinea's Bougainville province and (the unrecognised country of) Somaliland "Where are you from?" I took no offence. Why should or would I? They asked because they were curious, nothing more. Why on earth would anyone take offence at being asked where they are from?

    • @sportysbusiness
      @sportysbusiness 2 месяца назад +11

      100%! "Where are you from" doesn't even have to be about colour, race, accent or appearance, it's simply an easy question to start a conversation with a stranger, even if they are from that region. To treat it as something negative means you clearly don't have many friends.

    • @sebastiansirvas1530
      @sebastiansirvas1530 2 месяца назад

      They want to make you believe it is offensive because they wanna weaken national sovereignty and push the whole global citizen nonsense.

    • @NekoArts
      @NekoArts 2 месяца назад +11

      I agree. I was a "digital nomad", as they call it, and traveled nonstop before covid. Now I live in Japan (I'm European) and "Where are you from?" has been (for over a decade) and still is one of the first questions someone asks me when they first meet me. It never occured to me that I should be offended by it, on the contrary, it feels like a compliment that someone is interested enough to know more about me and my background.
      I feel like, with "microaggressions" today, it's just a way for people to look for a reason to be offended by just about anything, even the most innocent comment or action.
      The other day, I made a post on a different social media platform asking for advice. I'm currently very pregnant and missing food from my home country so my post was in regard to that ("where can I find XYZ?"). I returned to the post to see the replies a few days later and was surprised to find people offended by the fact that I live in Japan (and not home in mom's basement like they do, I guess), making all kinds of assumptions and lobbing insults at me. And all that over an innocent question about food. It would be funny if it wasn't so damn sad.

    • @AnneAndersonFoxiepaws
      @AnneAndersonFoxiepaws 2 месяца назад +3

      I am a Scot living in London and, because of the huge amount of different nationalities here, "where do you come from" is one of the first things people say, it never bothers me and doesn't seem to bother anyone I have asked. My partner is from North Africa and it doesnt bother him, but occasionally he has been asked "what are you doing here?" and that has other connotations.

    • @lil-al
      @lil-al 2 месяца назад +3

      @@AnneAndersonFoxiepaws I think it is one of those things that doesn't actually bother anyone except the thought police who think that they can speak for anyone they want, even without asking.

  • @erstwhile6163
    @erstwhile6163 2 месяца назад +4

    Such lovely men having a chat. Great viewing and listening. Thank you.

  • @janturcott4766
    @janturcott4766 2 месяца назад +4

    What a lovely man, very interesting. Goodness just shines out of his eyes

  • @michal88gno
    @michal88gno 2 месяца назад +2

    It was very nice conversation. Made me again appreciate Chris Hitchens. And thank you for memorizing stoicism - on and on and it is greatest attitude for everyday life no matter what we are struggling with.

  • @jillruben8924
    @jillruben8924 2 месяца назад +6

    Tom Nash. Thank you!
    It’s out of control

  • @Neo_Red_Pill
    @Neo_Red_Pill 2 месяца назад +4

    Completely agree with this man🙏

  • @JacobTheAmish
    @JacobTheAmish 2 месяца назад +3

    I love that Andrew talks about his tiny hands in every episode.

  • @yerbudspud
    @yerbudspud 2 месяца назад +14

    Don't try to force people to walk on eggshells and don't allow aholes to police people about it since that power goes to their heads.

  • @Barfield-cg7iq
    @Barfield-cg7iq 2 месяца назад +3

    I haven't even watched this yet but I'm going to jump in. My son has epilepsy. When he was at school he listened to a guest speaker talking about disablities and at some point said never use the word 'epileptic'. Say 'person with epilepsy'. He was too shy to speak at the time but later in class to his teachers explained that not only did he not object to the being called epileptic, he used the word himself and he felt vaguely offended that people might think it was somehow a dirty word to be avoided. It's basically being offended by proxy.

    • @Madonnalitta1
      @Madonnalitta1 2 месяца назад +1

      I've had it for 21 years but I've never referred to it as a disability. It's not, it's a symptom.

    • @Lily_The_Pink972
      @Lily_The_Pink972 2 месяца назад

      It's often the case that others like to speak on behalf of the people they 'advocate' for. Brain storm is another phrase supposedly offensive to epileptics. How does your son view that?

  • @ruthhorowitz7625
    @ruthhorowitz7625 2 месяца назад +9

    No, but I would like to know his thoughts on workplace accommodations, and how difficult it is to get them for invisible disabilities. The common attitude is ' you're just not trying hard enough ' rather than providing the needed accommodations.

  • @Sarah-with-an-H
    @Sarah-with-an-H 2 месяца назад +12

    Differently abled is softly padded language for the person using that language becuse they have a hang-up about disabilities. I have the disability and living with it i don't need the soft cushion it doesn't change having disability

  • @FallenRobot
    @FallenRobot 2 месяца назад +3

    What a nice guy Tom is, great interview.

  • @healgrowlovecommunity8397
    @healgrowlovecommunity8397 2 месяца назад +3

    Wonderful interview - thank you Andrew and Tom.

  • @SheLoves2Learn111
    @SheLoves2Learn111 2 месяца назад +16

    I like it already just from the teaser.

    • @hookie
      @hookie 2 месяца назад +1

      I like YOU

  • @KnottyCeltic
    @KnottyCeltic 14 дней назад

    What a beautiful story of how Tom got sick, lost his limbs and then kept moving forward to design prosthetic attachments so that he could carry on playing guitar with both 'hands'. Every kid or adult person who loses limbs needs to hear stories from people who have gone before them and flourished in their lives through perseverance.

  • @linzilou3714
    @linzilou3714 2 месяца назад +4

    great interview, super guest

  • @jessestevens_aka_jesus
    @jessestevens_aka_jesus 2 месяца назад +7

    The lamps not being level is really distracting.

    • @pheonix72
      @pheonix72 2 месяца назад +1

      Well, it wasn’t, but now you mentioned it…

  • @ricwebber3951
    @ricwebber3951 2 месяца назад +3

    I must admit the thumbnail did draw me in, then the intro, "so tell me about this shark attack"...that said enjoying alot..great stuff.

  • @christianschmidt5744
    @christianschmidt5744 2 месяца назад +6

    This gonna be a treat !!! G’on

  • @cestmoi4532
    @cestmoi4532 2 месяца назад +2

    Great conversation, thank you!

  • @43nostromo
    @43nostromo 2 месяца назад +3

    Great channel. I'm hooked!

  • @MrFIRESEAL117
    @MrFIRESEAL117 2 месяца назад +3

    The late great George Carlin had a great bit about "softening Language"
    It goes along the lines of..
    During the first world war there was a condition called "shell shock" due to a fighting person's nervous system being stressed to the absolute limit.
    An entire generation went by and faced the 2nd WW. Very same battle condition, the language was softened to "Battle fatigued"
    Korean War - "operational exhaustion"
    Vietnam -" post-traumatic stress disorder disorder"
    So basically taking a condition and softening the language doesn't change the condition at heart.
    "disabled" - differently abled" 🙄

    • @Sarah-with-an-H
      @Sarah-with-an-H 2 месяца назад +3

      Softly padded language doesn't protect anyone, what it does is shine a spotlight on who has the hangup about the subjects they choose to use softly padded language about. Rarely does it have anything to do with the actual thing being discussed.

  • @karentracey9948
    @karentracey9948 2 месяца назад +2

    Excellent interview, what a good guy ❤

  • @sfrwriter
    @sfrwriter 2 месяца назад

    This is so true. I generally avoid people who look "offendable" just to protect myself.

  • @illjusthavecoffee
    @illjusthavecoffee 2 месяца назад +1

    I love his concept of anti-fragility, "I try to be the immune system."

  • @CatcachuToo
    @CatcachuToo 2 месяца назад +1

    Another amazing interview! Thanks for bringing such great guests on your channel. So inspiring!

  • @nickydavis9308
    @nickydavis9308 Месяц назад +1

    Just started watching this episode and wanted to mention as someone who has epilepsy. I am NOT offended when people want to use the term ‘Brainstorming’. The reason behind this ludicrous censorship is that apparently I’m too stupid to know that brainstorming is a term used to describe using your brain to storm out an idea. No, instead, apparently I’m so weak and feeble minded that the mere mention of brain and storm will send me off into bouts of hysteria and self loathing!
    So whilst trying to protect us poor people with epilepsy they have instead super insulted us. And before anyone asks. I am not the only one that thinks this. Just take a look at the epilepsy society for conformation.
    I did cause a bit of a ruffle of uncomfortableness in a large meeting one day when I popped my hand up to stop the lady who was teaching the group what to say instead (can’t remember what the replacement was, not important). She looked shocked, fumbled a bit and then said that what I was saying was not in her training manual so I would have to accept it!
    Needless to say I didn’t stay their long.

  • @chloedemure
    @chloedemure 2 месяца назад +3

    Great interview!

  • @suepowell5008
    @suepowell5008 2 месяца назад +27

    Hey Andrew. No need to apologize to us 50's kids, we don't get offended by every little thing. Actually, we don't get offended by much of anything. Oh, the good old days of smacking your kids around.🤣

    • @jillruben8924
      @jillruben8924 2 месяца назад +1

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @toxicwaltzn8175
      @toxicwaltzn8175 2 месяца назад

      You spoiled 50’s CHUDs are the exact reason why the world is going to hell 😂

    • @RaefonB
      @RaefonB 2 месяца назад +2

      ...and all that. 😄

    • @rebeccao8895
      @rebeccao8895 2 месяца назад +1

      😂 Oh dear!🤣

    • @NotLikeLee
      @NotLikeLee 2 месяца назад

      Why are you lot so angry if you don’t get offended by anything. Older people think they’re lovely, some are, some aren’t. But they all smell musty.

  • @dlloydy5356
    @dlloydy5356 2 месяца назад

    Fantastic refreshing interview & guest. I can’t agree more with his general stance. So much of what he says is absolutely how I think/feel....completely get the Stoicism shout out too.

  • @Guyjharrison
    @Guyjharrison 2 месяца назад +1

    bring back "sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me" and problem solved - feelings got pushed to the forefront, because of - sorry can't say because people can't handle the truth - and with all those feelings security was prioritized over freedom and when that happens that society deserves neither security nor freedom. You made your bed, now lie in it, ladies.

  • @rael1999
    @rael1999 Месяц назад

    Spot on Tom...When you create an environment where people are frightened of saying the wrong thing to a person then people will avoid having contact with those people. It's making people separatist.

  • @olafdossier7897
    @olafdossier7897 2 месяца назад +8

    @Tom Nash, no offence but, you are amazing ;)

    • @user-pf7mj7om2n
      @user-pf7mj7om2n 2 месяца назад

      😂

    • @hookie
      @hookie 2 месяца назад +2

      No offence but I love you 😂

  • @StanKayA
    @StanKayA 2 месяца назад +4

    Hi Andrew, congrats on your big day! Very happy for you both. ☺️
    I’m sure it’s been pointed out already but I think the art behind your head is slipping from the frame?

    • @missychan63
      @missychan63 2 месяца назад +4

      The lampshade is just crooked.

    • @StanKayA
      @StanKayA 2 месяца назад +1

      @@missychan63 thank you. I watch from Australia…middle of the night….3am in the morning. And it’s just been bothering me. Just couldn’t make sense of it. I see it now….thank you!

  • @loopylou6841
    @loopylou6841 2 месяца назад +1

    I’ve had a lot of things not go my way through life and have a disability too, im No victim, nor a survivor, life just is what it is, hopefully with some peace to come at some point. Which I’m working on as nothings for free! I can’t get over how sensitive some people are these days , sometimes I’m worried about saying anything in case I unintentionally offend anyone in my orbit.

    • @jwsuicides8095
      @jwsuicides8095 2 месяца назад

      The problem is that the term "disability" covers thousands upon thousands of variations. When you've been spat on, beaten, laughed at and left to die because you're disabled it becomes a different ball game. Having said that I enjoy jokes about my situations and keep things open.

  • @andy62501
    @andy62501 2 месяца назад +1

    "the soft bigotry of low expectations" is an amazing phrase I will absolutely be stealing

  • @nursejoed
    @nursejoed 2 месяца назад

    Thank you for this. The information about RUclips psychology and business issues was particularly interesting.
    On another note, the pressures on policing speech also include eliciting "correct" language- the trend now to REQUIRE people to announce their pronouns in various situations drives me crazy...

  • @silo_fx3182
    @silo_fx3182 2 месяца назад +3

    Somewhat related parallel here in New Zealand is our second official language of Te Reo Maori. I see so many people ashamed or 'guilty' because they don't speak Te Reo. There is zero need to feel guilt. Its ok if you don't speak a language. Learn if you want to, but never feel ashamed because you are not trained or skilled in something.

  • @BrittishCats
    @BrittishCats 2 месяца назад +1

    I remember back in 2004 when danish psychologist Bent Hougaard coined the terms 'curled kids' and 'curling parents' describing the problem with this 'cuddeling'.
    Obviously we learned nothing, since 20 years later people are now standing in rows to curl everyone and everything everywhere and everytime.

  • @steadmanuhlich6734
    @steadmanuhlich6734 2 месяца назад

    Outstanding guest speaker! Great interview. Good humor, informative, humane. Well done to both Tom and Andrew! Hats off! Bravo.

  • @rachelwebb2330
    @rachelwebb2330 2 месяца назад

    I have met ppl with obvious disfigurement I always ask what happened to you for the fact most ppl left it unsaid when the person knows they must be thinking about I always thought to not ask was rude. One person said thank you for asking so I have continued becoz of that so its great to hear what Tom Nash said coz it is its making it more of a division yet again mister gold another great episode, thank you

    • @wckd4u
      @wckd4u 2 месяца назад

      Just to reaffirm this, I also have an apparent disability/disfigurement, and i always appreciate when people ask. So long as its coming from sincere curiosity. Because most people will just avoid so not to be rude or fear of offending. But the staring or double takes are worse than not saying anything at all if your just curious. Not that you should ask everyone you see whats up, but if its someone you see frequently - it helps break down barriers.

  • @Messier45_Pleiades
    @Messier45_Pleiades 2 месяца назад +8

    When you have a disability, and you are struggling but get no help, it does not make you stronger. It makes you think no one cares. When you are struggling and people tell you you are whining and to 'get on with it' that doesnt help you. When you are suffering from exhaustion from struggling and people call you lazy, you start thinking you are lazy, when all you are doing is trying to get by. The expression 'give me a child until he is 7 and I'll give you the man' makes sense. If youve had a lifetime of good health a

    • @ASMRyouVEGANyet
      @ASMRyouVEGANyet 2 месяца назад +2

      This applies to everyone

    • @jwsuicides8095
      @jwsuicides8095 2 месяца назад +1

      @@ASMRyouVEGANyet Not quite sure what you mean but not "everyone" has to go without being able to eat and drink, be clean, pee and poo...or did I miss what you're saying? Thanks.

    • @BennyMcGibbon
      @BennyMcGibbon 2 месяца назад +1

      When someone tells me just to suck it up and stop being a victim I then ask why doesn't that apply to the African American community?

  • @KonaCalli
    @KonaCalli 2 месяца назад +11

    I WAS a Fifties Kid and I Was Hit. No offense taken. But I can assure you It Didn’t Make Me Stronger. Then as a mother I made sure I didn’t hit my kid.

    • @souxcasa
      @souxcasa 2 месяца назад

      It doesn't make people stronger it puts your nervous system into overdrive when you're taught to fear the person who's supposed to protect you

    • @realMaverickBuckley
      @realMaverickBuckley 2 месяца назад +1

      80s kid, and I was too. I feel like it made me better. I was lucky in that mine are golden and never needed it, but I did!

    • @jwsuicides8095
      @jwsuicides8095 2 месяца назад +2

      @@realMaverickBuckley My body was permanently damaged by the brutalities put upon it from being pre-school. It didn't make me better. I wasn't even doing things wrong but sadism used to be endorsed by society. It was a living hell.

    • @marmot-mr8mh
      @marmot-mr8mh 2 месяца назад +3

      My violent Mother made her inability to cope and therefore the hitting of her children all of our faults. I internalized her view of me and believed her. It made me think that I caused all the bad things that happened to me. “See what you made me do”. I started to get my life back when I really felt it. Felt the fear and stopped letting others tell me I caused their anger and abuse. Never hit your kids. They will either believe it’s deserved or need to shut down emotionally (and be unaware)to function. Every time I hear someone say-I got hit-and I turned out fine, I ask what would you have been if you had not been hit.

    • @jwsuicides8095
      @jwsuicides8095 2 месяца назад

      @@marmot-mr8mh Some good points.

  • @AnneAndersonFoxiepaws
    @AnneAndersonFoxiepaws 2 месяца назад +1

    Tom's a really nice guy and, watching this, I think it would be difficult for me to treat him as anything other than a friendly, engaging person. I'm have Aspergers and general anxiety but I know on first sight, practically, people I feel are going to be easy to get on with, or otherwise. Tom strikes me as friendly and easy going. I don't know if its part of my ASD but things like disabilities come way down on the list of things that make me feel comfortable with people. Obviously I notice things but its not important in my scheme of things and theres so many other, less tangiable things that are much more important to me. I understand what he is saying about being cautious not to offend making people more vulnerable in the end and I really think people should just communicate with each other and not over stress inoffensiveness because it can become more of a boundary for people and stop people even trying to talk to people with disabilities. Watching people do verbal gymnastics around trying not to offend makes me squirm, maybe its my "detatched, cold personality" as members of my family used to say, however I would rather be like me and blunt and straight to the point (within reason) than making the person with the disability feel embarrassed or even hurt by how I'm negotiating the conversation, I think ASDs sometimes help in coming across as real in situations like that. I think you get the real me with no frills in other words.

  • @adifferentwayuk3335
    @adifferentwayuk3335 2 месяца назад +2

    Wonderful to hear an interview about 'speech ' other than trans issues.

  • @PooperScooperTrooper
    @PooperScooperTrooper 2 месяца назад +1

    All this needs to END. If somebody gets offended over words - thye need to GROW UP. it's as simple as that.
    Words are just words

  • @1SpicyMeataball
    @1SpicyMeataball 2 месяца назад +1

    I was born with a learning disability. I've worked hard to be seen and treated as a normal person, so you wouldn't even know I had a disability.
    These terms like neurodivergent (which I hate) abelist etc are used like badges, putting someome's disabilities first because they don't want equal treatment but special treatment.

  • @matiaspizarro7960
    @matiaspizarro7960 2 месяца назад

    Love both of your sense of humor, got me struggling not to chuckle in the library!

  • @sandyelton9532
    @sandyelton9532 2 месяца назад

    Absolutely loved listening to you both tonight 🙏🥰

  • @karolinaxyz3790
    @karolinaxyz3790 2 месяца назад

    Excellent interview!

  • @tensaijuusan4653
    @tensaijuusan4653 2 месяца назад +3

    Tom seems like a great guy - not a drop of self-pity! Yes, small hands for a very tall man, but Andrew, what about your feet? Anyway, T-Rex had small hands too!

  • @jackimuir7393
    @jackimuir7393 2 месяца назад +1

    Great chat & Hitch would be my chosen heretic too!

  • @johndillinger5142
    @johndillinger5142 Месяц назад

    What a g, great conversation.

  • @keishaofficer9063
    @keishaofficer9063 2 месяца назад

    With our daughter, we teach her words and thoughts aren’t off limits. Anything is open to discussion. We’re teaching her to read context of words and value action over speech.

  • @willgillies5670
    @willgillies5670 2 месяца назад +2

    Isnt it nice when you see the person first and not the disability? Even better you don't see the disability.

    • @Madonnalitta1
      @Madonnalitta1 2 месяца назад +1

      Don't be asinine, ofc you're going the see the disability. Smh.
      The idea is that you ought not to react differently because someone has a disability, but saying that you do not see it is a lie.

  • @sn4rff
    @sn4rff 2 месяца назад

    another really interesting discussion, thanks so much for these videos.

  • @Engrave.Danger
    @Engrave.Danger 2 месяца назад +2

    Apparently when school was indoctrinating his class he was out playing hooky, so instead of acting like a victim, he's straight up crushing it like that can. 😜

  • @ingridioanahuma6470
    @ingridioanahuma6470 2 месяца назад +1

    As long as we do not talk about obvious threatening, spiteful, contemptuous or hate-instigating discourse, I consider any attempts to regulate speech as being abusive and against fundamental human rights and a clear warning that some extremist ideology is creeping up to grab power. The jokes reflect the speaker's perception of certain aspects or features of the object or characters in the joke. They usually share observations that may be amusing, intriguing or annoying and can often reflect the views of people in a certain social group (be it a village, a nation, a generation or a race). The joke is a form of self-regulation of the social group. It has informative and educational value too. It may ridicule the traits considered out of the ordinary or acceptability in these social groups. Jokes have a great power to defuse tensions, even if they are about ethnicities, races, minorities or other specific human categories such as doctors, homosexuals, whatever... The joke is like a breather. During the communism in Romania, the political police called Securitate would spread political jokes with this intention and it obviously worked for quite a long time.

  • @thereselarfield7177
    @thereselarfield7177 2 месяца назад

    Another good one… I listened while cleaning out my garden shed ❤🇦🇺

  • @MsTrotwood
    @MsTrotwood 2 месяца назад

    Tom has a fantastic and sweet smile. In a minute you forget about his hands or legs

  • @andreapartytown
    @andreapartytown 2 месяца назад

    Most enjoyable video….. you looked so comfortable in each others company ❤

  • @ASMRyouVEGANyet
    @ASMRyouVEGANyet 2 месяца назад +3

    I just really want to ask him how he cleans the rear end after taking care of business 😂
    Is that wrong

    • @hookie
      @hookie 2 месяца назад +2

      It’s not wrong. I can do that with my hooks. Just using thick wet wipes rather than flimsy toilet paper. Also, at home - Japanese toilet. Boom 💥

  • @allosaurusfragilis7782
    @allosaurusfragilis7782 Месяц назад

    That joke about not becoming a paralympian amused me. I was a competitive cyclist, before a life changing road accident left me in a wheelchair after a long stay in hospital.
    I got the feeling becsuse i enjoyed sport and racing, people assumed i would start on the wheelchair racing. Sorry. I just felt no desire to do that. Good on those who do...more power to their elbows...but i didnt want to and still dont, 10 years later.

  • @commentarytalk1446
    @commentarytalk1446 2 месяца назад

    The forced speech thing seems like a verbal weapon, reminds me accidentally of the comic skit: "Air Africaans" where the two air stewardesses invariably invoke as their trump card: "Excuse me, madame! Can't you see I'm attending to a disabled child, back here?!" to put the passenger on the back-foot.

  • @TheLegionsofScipioAmericanus
    @TheLegionsofScipioAmericanus 2 месяца назад +1

    Genuinely found myself smiling and laughing along. Great discussion.

  • @sandrarios2253
    @sandrarios2253 2 месяца назад

    The worst is when people blame others.

  • @Uncivilize
    @Uncivilize 2 месяца назад

    The reason people think it might be offense to say, "What happened to you?", is because it implies something's wrong with you. It's logical, but they just take it too far, adding a little vitruol to top it off.

  • @andrewmullen4003
    @andrewmullen4003 2 месяца назад

    As a single amputee I can't even begin to imagine your journey, respect

  • @BlackMael
    @BlackMael 2 месяца назад +3

    I prefer to start my statements with... "I'm mildly racist, so..."

    • @user-pf7mj7om2n
      @user-pf7mj7om2n 2 месяца назад +4

      My comment is I’m culturally prejudiced. It’s how people behave not their skin colour that is important.

  • @katherinecollins4685
    @katherinecollins4685 Месяц назад

    Enjoyed this

  • @clmm7418
    @clmm7418 Месяц назад

    Stoicism for the win! Great interview with a couple of handsome fellas ☺️

  • @mademoiselledusfonctionell1609
    @mademoiselledusfonctionell1609 Месяц назад

    Mainstream media are not sluggish in engaging in topics.
    The people there are either woke or do not have any backbone.

  • @dominicscott9145
    @dominicscott9145 2 месяца назад

    Stoicism is truly inspiring, what a dude!

  • @EyeofSekhmet
    @EyeofSekhmet 2 месяца назад

    I think the disabled community and every other minority, need to speak for themselves ALWAYS. When privileged people say something about them on a platform, it feels insincere and like "virtue signaling".