In the early 80s,I worked for an oilfield cementing company. After one job,I still had cement to dispose of. Instead of returning in to the yard for the trash container, I took it home and spread it on my gravel driveway. After bringing truck back and clocking out,I went home and sprayed water on drive. The cement was high strength and fast setting. Driveway is still there.
With my 1" crusher-run driveway, I dumped Portland cement out of a drop spreader, very thin coat, before a rain. A few years of doing this, and I have a concrete driveway for cheap.
Had a hole in a dirt and gravel drive way where a small tree was pushed out ( young pine about 15 to 20 ft tall). Couldn't keep it filled. Filled it in for 2 yrs and would still come back. So, got the idea to fill it with some dirt and poured about half bag of of quickcrete over then watered it down real good. Problem sovled. Reappearing hole ceased to reappear! Lived there for 8 more yrs before moving and hole never did come back over the time i lived there.
Same. Thought it would just turn into a speed bump. But it meshed well with the surrounding dirt and makes me want to add more concrete all over yo make everything stronger
Did this at my place of employment. At the end of the gravel driveway, the refuse truck wore a deep rut into the gravel, I leveled it while dropping 2 50lb bags in. That was 5 yrs ago and it's finally starting to open up again.
I was thinking of doing the same thing but instead of the entire surface, do two paths about 18” wide x 4 inch thick, and place rebar or a 4x4 wire mesh to reinforce it…. Also use straight Portland cement if the local gravel is clean enough. Might be better if I dig the 18” path in a bit so it’s not sitting on top of the existing lane…your in a tight turn so a 18” path might be too narrow. Well I’m interested to see how it holds up. A lot will depend on how stable the ground is under that new concrete…it doesn’t like to flex.
Purchase straight Portland cement, anything else is full of filler rocks, you already have the rocks. In Australia they use latex polymers for road stabilization, probably just floor wax tilled and packed down.
If you decide to do more. Get a bulk delivery of sand. Mix sand and lime and cement..( no stone ) because you already have that. And you can cover more area ...
Adding the cement to your gravel driveway doesn’t address the real driveway problem which is the ridiculously steep grade on the uphill side. If you bind the existing gravel together with cement at that existing grade, you likely are just going to have larger chunks of displaced gravel. The grade is also likely to be disadvantageous when adding the water because it is going to cause the water to run with the cement fines before it can bind together to form concrete.
After seeing your film but done already, i wonder if racking it in with the rock it would hold better. Everyone can't afford lots of concrete for driveways.
It takes 28 days for concrete to cure to its full design strength, i.e. 3,000 PSI. Walking and driving over this, just an hour after you placed it, will result in cracking or pulverizing the cement. Tight compaction of a gravel road requires the proper balance of aggregate sizes, combined with optimum moisture content. If your road or driveway gets muddy and squishy after a good rain, you need more medium and large aggregate. The medium aggregates fill in the spaces between the larger aggregates, and the fine aggregates (the dirt), fills in the smaller spaces. Even if you run a roller over the proper aggregate balance when it's too wet or too dry, you will never achieve good compaction, but if you roll or sled it with just the right amount of moisture, it will compact more solidly. Too dry and everything will be loose. Too wet and it will just mush. Slowly adding water as you compact in small layers is the best way to achieve good compaction. Often times, people will grade out for a driveway and dump some gravel on it and think it's good, ...until all that gravel seems to disappear over time, with ruts, mudholes, etc. What happens is the ground gets wet from repeated rains and the ground underneath the gravel gets mushy, so the gravel sinks into it. Instead of waiting until most of your gravel has been absorbed into the ground, add some more gravel, and you may have to do this over and over until your gravel ratio is balanced with the amount of loose dirt underneath it. You can speed up the process by mixing different sizes of gravel, like mixing some pea gravel with 1" minus gravel or 3/4" minus, or all three. Remember balance. If you have loose dirt and larger gravel, you probably don't have enough smaller or medium sizes of aggregate to properly fill in the voids for best compaction.
Cuz it’s quik set concrete. You don’t pre mix. Just water. But what he is doing will clump up and not be solid . Depends on amount used. I’m curious to see it now
I have thought about doing my driveway which is on a really steep hill, But now im thinning it would be a waste of time and money! Because when you drive over that several times it is gonna loosing the gravel and still wash away!
NO! DON'T DO IT. This is horrible when it comes time for maintenance. And yes that time will come no matter how much concrete you put on it. You are just making it much worse to maintain with chunks of concrete everywhere. Cut and grade your driveway once a year or fund someone that does gravel driveway maintenance and that can renovate your driveway with your existing gravel.
This is a waste of time and money. It wont last very long. If this was a good idea people would have been doing this for years. But it is not. It will crumble every time you drive over it.
I have a gravel driveway as well and have a hard time plowing the snow. I want to get a snow blower but I know the blower will spit the rocks out. But I want to rent a compactor and get a bunch of bags of sand and cement. My driveway is more leveled than yours and I don’t have any hills. Our winters in Montana can be brutal and they last a long time.
Most people use cement and concrete interchangeably. They are different. Concrete (redimix) is a mixture of cement, large aggregate (gravel) and small aggregate (sand). You already have more than enough aggregate, so you’re wasting your money buying redimix. If you want to do this you would be much better off just buying cement.
Bigger Stone like number 2s That’s just gonna break up when you drive over it and you’ll be right back where you started you’re kind of pissing in the wind
@@bleumeanyontherampage2136 Because he has created like a half inch thick concrete slab over loose gravel that he is going to drive heavy trucks on. It will crack almost immediately and will then be loose large sheets of concrete.
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Not meaning to kick you in the shin please if you could invest in a better camera. The one you have when you move around it’s hard to look at without getting dizzy. Thank you sir for sharing.
@@Defender_Tom Yep. I'd get a solid surface. But given my 1/4 km long and steep driveway, and that we get snow, I'm ok with gravel. Solid surface would be a schit show when icy.
To fix my place that washes out on a hill, the cheapest estimate was $6000. I make less than $1500 a month social security. I sorted and place aggregates by hand, used fines made of cheap torn bags of concrete mixed with hand sifted limestone fines. A dumpster dive piece of 4" conduit for a culvert pipe. I pretended I was a kid in a sandbox. Never washed out again.
I hope you do a follow up in a few months, I'd be interested in it. Good video!
Don’t hold your breath.
He doesnt want to show the speedbumps
@@Nobody-n2mtell me you don’t live on a dirt road. It’s all bumpy. This will be solid under the tires
In the early 80s,I worked for an oilfield cementing company. After one job,I still had cement to dispose of. Instead of returning in to the yard for the trash container, I took it home and spread it on my gravel driveway. After bringing truck back and clocking out,I went home and sprayed water on drive. The cement was high strength and fast setting. Driveway is still there.
Thanks for the video, I’d love to see how it’s holding up!
With my 1" crusher-run driveway, I dumped Portland cement out of a drop spreader, very thin coat, before a rain. A few years of doing this, and I have a concrete driveway for cheap.
Had a hole in a dirt and gravel drive way where a small tree was pushed out ( young pine about 15 to 20 ft tall). Couldn't keep it filled. Filled it in for 2 yrs and would still come back. So, got the idea to fill it with some dirt and poured about half bag of of quickcrete over then watered it down real good. Problem sovled. Reappearing hole ceased to reappear! Lived there for 8 more yrs before moving and hole never did come back over the time i lived there.
Same. Thought it would just turn into a speed bump. But it meshed well with the surrounding dirt and makes me want to add more concrete all over yo make everything stronger
Did this at my place of employment. At the end of the gravel driveway, the refuse truck wore a deep rut into the gravel, I leveled it while dropping 2 50lb bags in. That was 5 yrs ago and it's finally starting to open up again.
Guessing the end of your driveway doesn’t have the steep grades shown here.
You don’t need 8 bags. You need 800 bags. Or a concrete truck
Or more realistically to raise the downhill side of the driveway to reduce the grade of the uphill side.
Lol
Any updates to the rest of the driveway?
No followup video on this sketchy repair. Never take advice from a person who does not understand the purpose of shoe laces.
🤣
He said he didn't wanna half ass this
I was thinking of doing the same thing but instead of the entire surface, do two paths about 18” wide x 4 inch thick, and place rebar or a 4x4 wire mesh to reinforce it…. Also use straight Portland cement if the local gravel is clean enough. Might be better if I dig the 18” path in a bit so it’s not sitting on top of the existing lane…your in a tight turn so a 18” path might be too narrow. Well I’m interested to see how it holds up. A lot will depend on how stable the ground is under that new concrete…it doesn’t like to flex.
Concrete will just bust up in 2 pieces the first time you drive on it turn into dust
I was just thinking about if this would work. And yup. Someone has tried it. Thank you!
An update video for all the people who are about to try to fix their affordable gravel driveways with concrete would be nice (:
Purchase straight Portland cement, anything else is full of filler rocks, you already have the rocks. In Australia they use latex polymers for road stabilization, probably just floor wax tilled and packed down.
Can it handle to be plowed with a foot of snow and not move all the rock?
If you decide to do more. Get a bulk delivery of sand. Mix sand and lime and cement..( no stone ) because you already have that. And you can cover more area ...
Great idea, have you tried it. I have a 1/2 mile long driveway that is gravel and was going to try something like that.
Adding the cement to your gravel driveway doesn’t address the real driveway problem which is the ridiculously steep grade on the uphill side. If you bind the existing gravel together with cement at that existing grade, you likely are just going to have larger chunks of displaced gravel.
The grade is also likely to be disadvantageous when adding the water because it is going to cause the water to run with the cement fines before it can bind together to form concrete.
I wonder if theres a slighly liquid concrete mix that would bond with the gravel already their
After seeing your film but done already, i wonder if racking it in with the rock it would hold better. Everyone can't afford lots of concrete for driveways.
Looks like you are apply a bandaid plaster on a shot gun wound.....good luck!
It takes 28 days for concrete to cure to its full design strength, i.e. 3,000 PSI. Walking and driving over this, just an hour after you placed it, will result in cracking or pulverizing the cement. Tight compaction of a gravel road requires the proper balance of aggregate sizes, combined with optimum moisture content. If your road or driveway gets muddy and squishy after a good rain, you need more medium and large aggregate. The medium aggregates fill in the spaces between the larger aggregates, and the fine aggregates (the dirt), fills in the smaller spaces. Even if you run a roller over the proper aggregate balance when it's too wet or too dry, you will never achieve good compaction, but if you roll or sled it with just the right amount of moisture, it will compact more solidly. Too dry and everything will be loose. Too wet and it will just mush. Slowly adding water as you compact in small layers is the best way to achieve good compaction. Often times, people will grade out for a driveway and dump some gravel on it and think it's good, ...until all that gravel seems to disappear over time, with ruts, mudholes, etc. What happens is the ground gets wet from repeated rains and the ground underneath the gravel gets mushy, so the gravel sinks into it. Instead of waiting until most of your gravel has been absorbed into the ground, add some more gravel, and you may have to do this over and over until your gravel ratio is balanced with the amount of loose dirt underneath it. You can speed up the process by mixing different sizes of gravel, like mixing some pea gravel with 1" minus gravel or 3/4" minus, or all three. Remember balance. If you have loose dirt and larger gravel, you probably don't have enough smaller or medium sizes of aggregate to properly fill in the voids for best compaction.
Looks like no fines, just loose gravel on top.
How is it holging up?
Great job
Great job on your information and video.😊
That monster energy bottle cracked me up! Gotta get highdrated before the task, right on!
How's the drive way holding up?
You can use crush and run asphalt it packs in really nice
Sounds like Ron Swanson character on Parks and Rec.
Good job man
Please do an update video
You can use a tiller with dirt and mix concrete with it. This is called earthcrete and it works better than putting it on top.
You can always use a seed spreader to spread the concrete better and more evenly.
The water will come down faster now. How much are you dealing with?
Youre using clean gravel for the driveway it needs some fines in it and it will pack down and erode less
Right idea unsure why you didnt wet it and mix together????
Cuz it’s quik set concrete. You don’t pre mix. Just water. But what he is doing will clump up and not be solid . Depends on amount used. I’m curious to see it now
For some reason, I did not realize he wet it.
I know a guy who used plywood, to fix the hole in his dirt driveway. Yeah, he was a real "Winner".
I don’t believe it will last more then a day !!
I have thought about doing my driveway which is on a really steep hill, But now im thinning it would be a waste of time and money! Because when you drive over that several times it is gonna loosing the gravel and still wash away!
Not even going to rake the gravel even before you start? I’ve seen enough! Lmfao!😂😅😂
You're not intelligent enough to participate in this discussion
Ice melt spreader might disperse your quick set more evenly.
NO! DON'T DO IT. This is horrible when it comes time for maintenance. And yes that time will come no matter how much concrete you put on it. You are just making it much worse to maintain with chunks of concrete everywhere.
Cut and grade your driveway once a year or fund someone that does gravel driveway maintenance and that can renovate your driveway with your existing gravel.
Bro you’re telling him not to do something he already documented himself doing 💀
Everyone's a Genius in their own minds 😂
@@Nikosakii I laughed out loud at this
@@Nikosakiiseems to me he’s telling others not to do this.
@@gbpg2016 the guy in the video ALREADY DID IT. How can you tell him not to do it💀
With that steep of a grade I would think putting down a grid would work better to keep the erosion from happening.
If you're going to try this, get a fertilizer spreader and use that instead of just dumping It on the ground and then trying to broom it in.
This is a waste of time and money. It wont last very long. If this was a good idea people would have been doing this for years. But it is not. It will crumble every time you drive over it.
I have a gravel driveway as well and have a hard time plowing the snow. I want to get a snow blower but I know the blower will spit the rocks out. But I want to rent a compactor and get a bunch of bags of sand and cement. My driveway is more leveled than yours and I don’t have any hills. Our winters in Montana can be brutal and they last a long time.
Most people use cement and concrete interchangeably. They are different.
Concrete (redimix) is a mixture of cement, large aggregate (gravel) and small aggregate (sand). You already have more than enough aggregate, so you’re wasting your money buying redimix. If you want to do this you would be much better off just buying cement.
Should have used Portland, not quick Crete.
Any update Josh?
Thanks for sharing!
How does it look after driving on it for a week or two?😊
I hope you were not holding your breath
@@georgea6403I bet he needed about another 100 bags before noticing any difference.
Maybe 3/4” stone with the stone dust Called 3/4” minus or stay mat would be better
No no no bad idea
I’d be concerned about your lungs inhaling all this powder.
Good point. Siliceous…is real. Not as bad as asbestosis.. but still an issue. Respirator with HEPA filter would be recommended.
We wash all of our concrete tools, even the brushes.
Icemelt will break down whatever concrete you get to set with your gravel
Use Portland cement, the just powder no rock in it.
Looking forward to the update video on the dangers of silicosis
It woildnt ruin the broom it would wash out
Bigger Stone like number 2s That’s just gonna break up when you drive over it and you’ll be right back where you started you’re kind of pissing in the wind
Not even going to watch it. If it was such a great idea, why wouldn't the old-timers have shared it years ago?
I predict that this will simply break up and NOT be worth the expense or effort.
Definitely need a mask
This is some hillbilly shit for sure 😂
I wash my brooms every time we pour concrete
Why wouldn’t pave it
That would be great but my driveway is 1/2 mile long with hills , no way I can pave it
love it
When you don't have the money to do it right but you still want to do something... even when it's worthless.
why is it worthless?
if you have to ask
@@georgea6403 If I have to ask ,and you don't have an answer, guess it might just work.
I mean, it does work, it's just a gravel supplement
@@bleumeanyontherampage2136 Because he has created like a half inch thick concrete slab over loose gravel that he is going to drive heavy trucks on. It will crack almost immediately and will then be loose large sheets of concrete.
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I did this years ago, didnt do anything.
Crushed lime
short term fix
Yay
Just made a mess
Not meaning to kick you in the shin please if you could invest in a better camera. The one you have when you move around it’s hard to look at without getting dizzy. Thank you sir for sharing.
What a joke
I would have got a mixer and mixed it first lol.
Hillbilly driveway
Hack
Hire a reliable asphalt firm and have a proper 🖐drive chap
Maybe he can’t afford professional job.
@@lorihamlin3604 Or, like around here, "reliable asphalt firm" is a myth, like an honest roofing business......
Not everyone wants an asphalt driveway. Some people want gravel, even if they can afford asphalt, concrete, or pavers.
@@Defender_Tom Yep. I'd get a solid surface. But given my 1/4 km long and steep driveway, and that we get snow, I'm ok with gravel. Solid surface would be a schit show when icy.
To fix my place that washes out on a hill, the cheapest estimate was $6000. I make less than $1500 a month social security. I sorted and place aggregates by hand, used fines made of cheap torn bags of concrete mixed with hand sifted limestone fines. A dumpster dive piece of 4" conduit for a culvert pipe. I pretended I was a kid in a sandbox. Never washed out again.