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You’re right about living for the now. Many religious people think us atheists have nothing to live for, but it’s actually the opposite. We have nothing to die for!!
very wise words
excellent sentiment!
Exactly
Besides
Have you ever looked at the latest translations of the creation event
God's where the people growing on the mountains causing all of that beautiful microorganisms to spread all over the world
To make it green not actually create a planet
I know which I believe
The ancient sumerian tables are also totally forgotten about in any religion
However nearly every pre Jesus story out there come from them same tablets they totally refute
Work that one out
@@rebeccat94 definitely!! If any of this is true and they’ve got the ‘rules’ right, then it sounds like all the cool people are going to the basement anyway 😂
@@emmae4602 "I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints, the sinners are much more fun." - Billy Joel, Only the good die young (1977).
Norway salutes Fry and his intellect👍👍👍We happily trade religion with a lenghty education, its a sort of a vaccine against dangerous alternative realities like that
Helt enig 👍😁👍
Canada agrees
@@skyhighjaysly3623 I would say „Germany also“, but I can only speak for myself.
@@ludwigsonline3499 i speak for every Canadian...😉
It's hard to argue against Fry's logic. He delivers it brilliantly
Always enjoy watching Stephen Fry and your reactions. His voice is so pleasant to listen to and his depth of knowledge and understanding so impressive. We should all strive to do our best for ourselves and others in the here and now and not worry about what may or may not exist beyond that. Peace ✌️
Stephen is the man i would pay a lot of money for to read me stories at night till i fall asleep 👍🏻👌🏻
well lucky for you he has done audio books!
@@DatDirtyDog I meant in person hahaha, yeah i sure he has a few
I love Stephen Fry. Very intelligent man. I’m an atheist too and always enjoy what he has to say on the subject.
Psalm 14:1
The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, their deeds are vile; there is no one who does good.
Roman 1:18-22
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Claiming to be wise, they became fools.
Not saying this with a hateful heart but you really need to humble yourself and repent, because if you were honest with yourself you know God exists. You know you have fallen short and the only way to be forgiven is through surrendering yourself to Jesus. When you stand before God you will have no excuse - you will not be able to say to Jesus you were never given an opportunity to know Him.
I get it, this message sounds restrictive and offensive but that's because our sinful flesh is opposed to God. Jesus really is the only way and if I didn't care i would have kept this to myself in fear of rejection. I'll leave this with you, the choice is yours. God bless.
Yeah quoting a bible with 0 evidence is pretty stupid I can quote sentences from Harry Potter doesn’t mean Barry potter is real.
Atheism was invented by freemasons to pull you away from God.
Even Darwin himself believed in the Devil and therefore God. Him and his friends mock you and call you 'the profane' -- the dirt on their shoe....
@@annother3350 Atheism is the natural state, the default position. People can’t believe in a god until they’ve been made aware of the concept by other people, so it wasn’t ‘invented’ by anybody. As long as there have been people who believe in god(s), there have been people who don’t. And why would I care what Darwin did or didn’t believe in, what’s that got to do with me and why would I care? I don’t think your comment had quite the effect you were expecting it to have. You do you, and I’ll do me. Thanks.
@@emmae4602 Darwin's whole theory of evolution was invented to influence gullible people such as yourself into atheism.
Sure, you dont have to care but you'll be in denial.The whole evolutionary timeline is demonstrably false. Do you really think the human reproductive system with all the pieces of the puzzle it needs to work, happened in one generation, in male AND female in parallel -- by accident!?? You cannot be this stupid -- intelligent design is the MOST LIKELY choice -- anything else is a billion billion coincidences!!!!
It is funny how these religions think that they are the holders of morality yet their actions show otherwise.
Only subverted religions. The original intent was very different.
Think you're conflating religion with belief.
@@annother3350 Because your religion is the 'real' one isn't it? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@AlBundyOz I dont have a religion. All the evidence points to intelligent design. In your evolution theory you dont even know what we were before ape -- thats pathetic
@@annother3350 dude what? Would you like me to link you a good explanation of evolution or would you like to remain blissfully ignorant
He always has an interesting take on things, i'm not religious but i have no problem with it as long as they don't try and force it on others, many religious people do turn out to be great people, but equally many none religious people are good people. The problem i have is with the "human running and control" aspect, especially as the top people of the church preach from golden churches claiming love for everyone while so much bad goes on around them.
Stephen Fry's wit and intellect are indeed a national treasure of Britain. I would love to hear his comments on the incredible advances in cosmology due to the Hubble and James Webb Space telescopes, but I don't know if he's ever discussed that topic. Good job Joel. Best, John
As a person who has tried Herione and Cocaine... I would honestly say, you are right. You don't need to try everything to experience the world in all its beauty. Some things are better left alone.
Absolutely. The problem with trying everything is that sometimes those things might impact the duration of, or your enjoyment of, the rest of your life. I am a firm believer in living life to the fullest, but you need to make your decisions in an informed and responsible way.
Heroin*
I love him and the way he so eloquently expresses his thoughts.
Stephen Fry is fantastic - I'm agnostic and agree with everything he said.
And as a gay agnostic who was raised strict Irish Catholic (explains why I have 2 grown up daughters), I find his mind so erotic too!
Of course, but his "empirical" diagnosis ignores belief. And if, like me, you believe in something ineffable, then Fry's mundane "scientific" analysis is, well, meaningless - it assumes a world view that ignores anything else. "Scientific"? If you like. Catholic (in its original meaning) - comes up short. However, these days, he'll be sure of lots of backing from those who only want their own world view and the inane cheers of the stupid.
@@tonyves I'd never deem a human being infallible. Especially ones that cover up child abuse. Sad to see that you think the actions of the infallible Pope are part of what you consider perfection.
I'd pray for you if I thought any good other than a placebo would happen.
@@tonyves you spew your raging hate with many soft words.
Good try though sweetie.
@@tonyves Whenever I hear or see the word 'ineffable', I can't help thinking about this quote from the late, great, Douglas Adams. “Let's think the unthinkable, let's do the undoable. Let us prepare to grapple with the ineffable itself, and see if we may not eff it after all.”
The most charismatic entertainer you will ever hear. Done so much for so many people over so many years
Met Stephen Fry many times in the mid to late 90s when I was a student at the university of Dundee, Scotland. Stephen Fry was voted by the students to be our Rector (non religious representative for students at the university council etc) he was really great.
The correct answer to not knowing is "I don't know". Knowledge is demonstrable.
Four o'clock in the morning and how I'm enjoying, Stephen Fry! Peace!
Joel you are so refreshing. Stephen talks so much sense it is a shame that so many have their heads in the sand and can't listen to common sense or else can't or won't recognise it as such. I really enjoy your channels please keep it up. Greetings from Newcastle, Australia.
You are so respectful of these difficult subjects 😁
Good to see a young American appreciating the words of Stephen Fry (and his late colleague Christopher Hitchens). Both know more about religion than people who claim to be religious. Their superb intellect and oratory enables them to run rings round the opposition - as well as being very entertaining!
I love your thoughtful take on this topic JPS (John Player Special) cigarettes in my youth! You're a very sensible, considerate young man. Long may you reign! 🤩
Having served in the Armed Forces, I have seen and experienced what Stephen Fry had said, especially in the middle east. He states my understanding , as with his, more eloquently than I could have and held his ground with losing his temper over the more insidious events of religion, I would have pop my cork as you Americans say.
Love Stephen Fry well done 👏 your a very wise you man JPS. LOVE YOUR CHANNEL
You give me hope in the youth of today. You seem to have a good grip on life. You will get better with age. Take it from a 71 year old 🇬🇧.
That was an excellent video mate. Take care. Steve.
I learned so much from Stephen. When I started questioning religion I found his debate on the Catholic church, and I was blown away by the disparity between the two sides.
Agree with everything he said, and with the comments made so far, I was born with deformed feet and wore special boots with iron bars on them for the first 15, years of my life obviously I was bullied at school and couldn't plays sports incase I injured someone, where we're the so called God loving religious people then when I needed comfort.
Stephen is an unqualified credit to our species.
It's as Christopher Hitchens said about religion, you can have your toys, you can do what you want with them...But you don't get to make the rest of us play with your toys.
Stephen Fry is one of my favourite people on the planet. I could listen to Stephen and Neil DeGrasse Tyson all day and sometimes do!
Cristopher Hitchens had a wonderful analogy about the religious imposing their beliefs on others, "I don't mind you playing with your toys at home or inviting your friends with the same toys to play with yours but when you try and force me to play with your toys, then we have a problem and I'm likely then to break your toys". Christopher was a wonderful man and will always be missed for his thoughts, ideas, the way he spoke and his ability to turn a phrase.
Your views mirror mine pretty nearly exactly. Stephen Fry is very intelligent, and extremely articulate, and he puts his points across very well indeed.
The problem is that for things we still don't know, religion doesn't answer those either. They replace the mystery with an even bigger mystery. (e.g. A god) and without any evidence. So the honest things to say when confronted with something currently unexplained is to say "I don't know".
Listening to Stephen Fry talking is always a joy. The guy is Brilliant.
Stephen Is a very well educated man, i totally agree with his views on religion.
Excellent choice of video and your take on what Stephen Fry says is simply spot on. Thanks for sharing.
I love his quite " You're offended? Well so f***ing what! "
That's not always the best response as one day you come across the person who when they are offended respond in a violent manner.
@@RushfanUK blah blah blah?
Stephen Fry is also hugely humble, & quick to blush. The sign of a gent, is that he under sells himself.
Jps, I know you probably won't have much time for reading books at the moment - given all your studies - but when you get a chance please take a look at Stephen's books on Greek mythology - Mythos and Heroes. His love for the subject is very clear and the books are an easy read.
I saw where he did this huge debate against the Catholic Church with Christopher Hitchens. It was a great debate to watch.
I'm so glad I found you, just by chance! As an American married to a British, I really enjoy all of your videos! Steven Fry is just an amazing person. I enjoyed all of his videos as well! Keep up the great work!
I love Stephen Fry thanks Joel for your comments ❤
My ideal dinner party guests would be Stephen Fry and Miriam Margolyes. I could listen to them talk all day
I love you JPS we are so aligned, I am not saying religious people are wrong in their views, just dont force it on me! Same as I will not tell them religion is nonsense!
Stephen Fry is such an articulate and interesting man, I don’t necessarily agree with absolutely everything he says but I always enjoy listening to him and I respect his point of view.
Great man , and a great mind .
Love this
Genuine reaction too
I sit in waiting for people to push religious views on me
Preloaded with the highest level of logic
Who MADE GOD ¡!¡
I think Stephen himself described the nature of his debate as the "Oxford way of playing nicely with ideas" I've always thought that this is the ultimate social accomplishment that one should aspire to. Beyond 'freedom of speech' or the dubiously fact-checked no-man's-land, there is a Hilbert space where humans can engage without prescribed agendas! Fry owns this space seemingly without effort, though it must have taken a lifetime of study to get there.
Stephen Fry wrote three great books on Greek Mythology (Mythos, Heroes and Troy) and I'm looking forward to the fourth book based on The Odyssey.
OMG. So well spoken.
Thanks bro! Stephen is absolute amazing! In the first clip he was with Richard Dawkins, amazing too. And Hitsch also (RIP). Have you seen movie called "Spotlight"? It is about the newspaper journalists which discovers the thing you mentioned you learned at school. Great Movie! Best Regards From Finland! Ps. F FIFA and F Qatar.
As an atheist, if I do something good you can be 100% sure I'm doing it because I want to do good and there is no doubt that I'm not doing it to end up in "The Good Place" or out of fear of "The Baaad Place"
Yep, Mr. Fry makes very valid points but in the nicest, scalpel-sharp way.
Suppose if there was a label then I would be classed as an Atheist. I respect that other folk choose differently, I ask for that respect back. Unfortunately many religious people think we all should believe no matter what.
Life is for living. Do it!
You mention Boston, I recommend the film Spotlight to all out there, a light on the church in itself but more so a great film.
The debate about the Catholic church is really good. It lasts about 2hrs with Christopher Hitchens and Stephen Fry aginst 2 members of the Catholic church. When they start out the majority of the audience believe that the Catholic church is good for mankind. Then you see the end result. Glorious. Fry and Hitchens make a formidable debate team. All facts no BS.
We Aussies are generally not particularly religious, but don't mind what others believe as long as they don't push it on others. Infiltration of evangelical religion into politics has been a feature of our politics over the last decade or so. Thankfully though, we may have turned the corner there ... I hope!
I completely agree about forcing people to adhere to religion.
Whether you agree or disagree with him, you have to respect the hell out of him. He's the master of words, everything he says has sense and meaning behind it, even if you dont agree with it
It's so encouraging to see a young intelligent you man like you who can recognize the bullshit spewed by hateful christians and churches. I myself was probably six year old raised catholic, when I started questioning the existence of god. I now, as a man in my sixties, see religion as a way for bigots to justify their hate and a force of evil which is destroying the world.
Something ricky gervais said about religion has stuck in my mind.
If humankind had its time again, religion would be different, it would take on a new form, a different collection of stories.
But all our scientific discoveries, all the tests and experiments, would turn out exactly the same.
He also said, i think to david letterman, of all the gods that people believe in, the greeks had their gods, other faiths have their gods, u David as a christian, believe in ur god and disbelieve in all those other gods.
Well david, ricky says, i just believe in one less god than you!
Its not exactly wat he said, but u get the gist of it!
i am a atheist as i don't believe in religion of any kind. Stephen Fry is in theses video clips is spot on on what he says. i do believe that religion is the root of most not all of the evil in this world.
Watch a program called QI if you want a laugh but also to learn its done by this man here he is a treasure of my country
We share most opinions and its hilarity. Stephen Fry is a brilliant, cultured, educated person of much wisdom. He is also a close personal friend to King Charles. He's a recovering non-drinking alcoholic and is married to a younger man.
Excellent actor too
Love love love Stephen Fry ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️😊👍🥰
You're 100% right about Stephen Fry. I'm 67 and I love this gentleman. He's is so eloquent, well-spoken, intelligent and empathetic ! Real humanist !
It's hard to disagree with Stephen Fry. He explains everything in such an easy to explain way.
my biggest thing to modern day religous people will always be - people worshiped the Norse and Greek just as much as modern religions and yet those are now called myths and legends, why do modern religous people not think the same will happen? and what makes current religon any different to those? in a few hundered/thousands years im sure many current religions will be looked at the same way - i would love a person of faith to please let me know why they are ok calling those old relgions myths and legends or silly stories but do not accept that the same is ture for their own
“Hey more for us” 😂😂 ma man! 🤣
"Exceptional Claims Demand Exceptional Evidence" > Christopher Hitchens
Who needs religion to be a good person?
Ut tibi sic aliis. That was my school motto and I think that is the way to live your life. You don't need to believe in myths and legends to be a good person.
Cannabis is a natural wonder drug...taken in moderation!
Ive suffered with chronic back pain for many years.
Prescription painkillers make the pain manageable at best.
I had some edibles a couple years ago, took 95%of the pain away!
It was such a relief and so amazing, i cried!
If anyone wants to balance this by listening to an absolutely wonderful Christian - take a look at Rev Ed Trevors' channel. I think he and Stephen would get on very well. Stephen would certainly be very welcome in his church.
Joel should do that. It's absolutely about balance. That is how you'll maintain your audience and not cut people out.
Stephen Fry telling it how it is.
In my school they Force us to pray
I'm sorry but is THAT the way Americans pronounce Qatar?
He wasn’t far off. I used to lived in Qatar and the second ‘a’ in Qatar is not pronounced. The correct pronunciation sounds more like cutter not catarrh
@@julianlayton733 I have noticed on the news that they pronounce it more like Catter, it is probably one of those words that we Brits have been saying wrong for years, now we are using the pronunciations of the country it's self
I remember when the Danish National Museum explained that finding in Germany of Neanderthal Graves just outside their cave. She said, well they most obviously believed in an afterlife and cared for each other.
Sure they cared. But how about this. They buried that freakin' body because a rotting corpse would attract wolves? I don't know if they believed in an afterlife. But they most certainly did care about this effin life!
1:31 whoa for a second I thought my iTunes just started playing - Ravel's Quartet "Assez vif, Très rythmé" Movement 2.
What a great choice of piece for a video called "The Wonderful Truth"!
For those curious.... (I doubt there are many though) - here is a link to the whole movement. It is a beautiful composition! ruclips.net/video/ZhN0RRlLhDg/видео.html
Stephen Fry is absolutely BRILLIANT!
I agree with him and you about religion and I also believe it needs to be kept completely OUT of government!
Being spiritually attuned to nature and life is where it's at and healthy ... but adhering to a mythical man-made-up religion is pointless and poison.
The most important thing to be taught and learn is the universal law of causality ... cause, intention and effect ... what you think, say and do ALL has consequences. One doesn't need a man-made-up religion or belief in a man-made-up god to be a good and kind person.
12:04 - What society are we living in?
That's simple my dear fellow:
"We live IN A SOCIETY! HAHAHAHA"
Beautiful reaction
Jps just like this video and listen to you right now
Advising my 2 offspring about whatever identity they realise they might have and anyone who might judge them, I remind them that FUCK OFF is a phrase that is always useful.
Our 2021 census in Australia showed the fastest growing belief was ‘no religion’ at 39% and in fact there’s now more non believers than Catholics at 20% and Anglicans at 9%, then other Christian beliefs like Pentecostal, Mormons and others which make up the rest taking Christianity to 42%. Followed by a smaller number of religions like Hinduism, Muslims, and Buddhism.
Australia is fast becoming more and more secular every year and by the next census atheism/non religion will overtake Christianity as there’s only a difference of 3%. Especially as younger people don’t believe in religious dogma compared to older generations.
I've been involved in a number of cults, both as a leader and a follower. You have more fun as a follower. But you make more money as a leader~Creed Bratton
I'm the exact opposite of Mel Gibson , I tend to look at the magnificence of the universe and see such perfections in symmetry and mathematics that I believe It had to be divinely created by some higher force many people refer to as God. I was as Atheist for the first 30+ years of my life but as I get older and the more I listen to physicists like Roger Penrose and Richard Feynman and seeing how little we actually understand, I believe in a creator, whether that be God or a 14 year old alien running a computer simulation in his moms basement. The more we accept that we just don't know would lead to more harmony between people, no-one knows the truth.
I’m not trying to be rude but the jump from ‘we don’t know’ to ‘therefore it must be god/ a creator’ is a far bigger leap in logic than you may think. There’s nothing wrong with not knowing the answers
I can totally believe we're in a computer simulation.
Quick point of fact: It is easier to change an idea than it is a belief. Have a good idea about religion, but do not entertain it with a belief, people would die over a belief, they would only need to amend an idea.
13:53 Have you seen ‘Spotlight’? It’s based on the story you’re talking about.
Also worth watching the recent Netflix documentary on the Catholic Church and the evil Mother Theresa
Hi JPS, enjoyed your reaction. There is a great interview of Fry made quite recently, that you may be interested in. The Diary Of A CEO-Stephen Fry. Hosted by Steven Bartlett.
ye ive met steven hes really nice guy i ussually opt out of conversation like this but ime interested live and let live is my moto
I'm Christian, not offended by what he says.
I am too a Christian. It's a difficult subject for this channel. I like Fry. I don't agree with him obviously but not offended. Not sure how I feel about a video like this on his channel or theses comments though. 🤔
@Matthew Hogarth Well we are in the minority. I'd challenge him to listen to someone who is religious for a difference of opinion
@@Sion67Productions Like who? The Holy Pope who demands his little sheep get on their bended knees to kiss his Holy Ring? What an IDOL!!!!
@@AlBundyOz I'm not Catholic
Thankfully in the UK religion is declining and less than 50% of people don't think religion is important, not far off that percentage are atheist.
"Cancer in children. What about that?" - S.Fry.
In the UK we have real trouble with the fundamentalist Bible Belt people. Don’t get me started on taking away woman’s rights over their bodies .
Very interesting video and reaction ;-)
according to the 2021 census in the uk for the first time the majority of brits are athiest with a large amount on top saying they have no real religi on its not just the uk its most of europe
Look up the Magdalene Laundries in Ireland, the cruelties by nuns, the evils, the mass graves of children found there.
Jps your cooler then I though, i agree with everything you! said in this video, watch it again afther shaving