It’s so cool that he’s narrating his response to this scene. The only thing that could possibly make it cooler is if we could actually hear what he’s saying.
You need new scripts for schedule 2 controlled substances every month. 0 refills. I work in a mail-order pharmacy, and the angry and abusive calls we get from folks regarding these meds are intense.
@@cloyeyeman1995 I've never received so much verbal abuse. And granted, I'm sure some folks are in pain, but these drugs really do f**k these poor folks up.
ugh that's so upsetting cause (im sure you know) you have to sign a document when going on a schedule 2 that's says literally exactly that 🙄 my doctor can prescribe 3 months but that's the max and only because I was on them for over a year and signed an additional agreement, I cant imagine getting mad at my pharmacy for that 💀
There is a really big distinction between chemical dependency and addiction. They tend to occur in tandem and while dealing with people who have this going on with its important to 1. Level with them and establish clear boundaries and create clear communication that shows u fully understand the severity of the situation 2. Acknowledge the real effects this is going to have on this person just like u would with a common cold or a person who’s depressed. 3rd we are actually advise them call their insurance provider and request a case manager because they clearly can’t get to help to be referred them to facility/hospital that can help them and keep them safe if u know this person and you’d like to advocate for them and express ur concern it will help a lot. if someone had a fatal wound we would call ems, addiction and chemical dependency can also be life threatening so while we may not have a responsibility to help them we can advise them to get on the phone with someone who can on the back of the card. Lastly 4. During Mental health crisis we actually dial 988 in the US just like we call 911 during an emergency. Call, explain what u saw and ask if The person in crisis would like to speak to someone who can help them, because you, are not that person. Have a great day
I just want to say I think it’s absolutely disgusting that you would become belligerent with absolutely anyone on the phone let alone someone who is providing u with a service and there’s absolutely no excuse for that, It’s astounding to me that is a regular part of ur job, I am so sorry u have to deal with that
My favorite thing about pharmacists in movies/TV is how it’s always just a singular pharmacist working with no technicians and they’re always just waiting at the register and doing nothing else.
@@Volundur9567 if it's one of those tiny pharmacies or perhaps a hospital/clinic one, sure. But, I think we all know they're talking about the big corporation ones like CVS, WALGREENS, and RITE AID.
I had a pharmacist refuse to refill my clonazepam on the day it was due to be filled because she said I was acting like I had an addiction issue. She said I was very anxious and fidgeting. Well of course I was anxious. I have chronic anxiety disorder and panic disorder. I’m always anxious. I called my doctor and they had a long conversation and then she filled them. Now every time I go to the pharmacy I only go to this one location I found because they know me there. I won’t ever trust another pharmacy outside of theirs.
They said the same about my 80 year old Mother. Filled on time for years and has a severe neurological disorder. Pharmacists should mind their own business.
I do the same thing with the pharmacy I go to. I have ADHD and have been on the same dosage of the same medications for 6.5 years now. The reason I go to the same pharmacy is also because I have a prescription history that goes back the same length of time. There's always hangups and frustrations with it, but not because of the pharmacy. Those incredible people at that particular location have fought for me on many occasions, and have cheered for me when I had to chew out my insurance company for the formulary changes that happen at arbitrary times, which patients aren't informed about in any way. They know to expect stupid, complicated bureaucratic bullshit for me, and to my understanding, this is common with ADHD patients. It wouldn't surprise me if it were also true for people with chronic anxiety, bipolar disorder, PTSD... As well as people with chronic pain. Like people who have necrosis in their bones, people whose joint replacements aren't being accepted by their bodies successfully. I've seen elderly people in that kind of pain, and it literally is that serious. The way the DEA and FDA make and enforce rules is crazy.
@@amysolley4268 My first thought after reading you was "I'm glad I'm not the only one." But actually it's so sad having medical professional being so unprofessional and insurance making harder to access something that we wish we wouldn't need in the first place 😢. Keep your head up yall.
i used to do the same and i was indeed very addicted not just completely physically dependent as i convinced myself i only was for the 6 years on benzos … i hope you find your faith and feel comfortable and live yourself enough to quit these while you still might have some control .. because i promise they will cold turkey you soon
Yep my pharmacist tried the same shit. Told me I couldn't take get my Adderall filled because I had a prescription valium 2 months prior. Mind you I only had a month supply of valium so a whole month went by where I hadn't taken anything so I was not mixing medications my doc was trying to figure out what worked best. My anxiety was caused by my lack of ability to focus. So the Adderall was the solution for me instead of anxiety meds and he gave me a month to let one out of my system before we tried another but the pharmacist decided to play doctor that day and I walked out with nothing and had my shit transferred the next day. Lol I am not on anything now because I am a recovering addict of fentanyl and xanax but im sure all my fellow former addicts know the feeling of leaving the pharmacy empty handed. Lol
That actress really nailed withdrawal. Just the cadence of her voice brings me right back to the Hell of addiction. Ive never seen it portrayed so well. What a miserable journey it was to get clean but i wouldn't trade it for anything. There is nothing like being there for other people as they find their way out of that life and into the real version of themselves❤❤❤❤ We absolutely do recover
Her name is Florence Pugh if you didn't know and want to check out her other films. She's a very good actress! I'm glad you are doing better and are clean. You're doing great 😊
I’m so glad you recovered and are doing well!❤️ I’m hoping one day my aunt can be as well. She’s such a beautiful person with so much waiting for her once she’s ready❤️
I worked as a receptionist at a doctor's office and I could always tell who was calling to get appointments for refills on these kinds of meds before they even told me what they needed for exactly this reason! The way an addict talks is pretty distinct, but you're absolutely right, recovery is always possible!
A doctor would never take somebody cold, turkey off opiates if they’ve been on the long-term unless they were positive of abuse, and even then, it’s not advised it’s advised to wean them off or to switch them to a suboxen or methadone medication.
Wean means to slowly reduce the amount over a period of time. It's not cold turkey and likely this isn't even her prescription. (haven't seen the movie) My brother works in an emergency room, he has heard ALL the stories, repeatedly.
I hated getting clonazepam refills because they would always cancel or not fill it multiple times. I was in school in Austin and my psychiatrist was in my home town of San Antonio literally 55 minutes away, and they eventually told me that the separate city Dr was why they thought I was an addict!!!
Idk they may or may not be wrong. Took me almost half my life to figure out people saying that to me weren't wrong. K pins are the oxy's of the benzo world. I've been clean for almost a year ❤
Unfortunately, many people battling addiction start bec of real pain. They get a script for the pills and slowly they get hooked. My grandma was in constant pain (she had a congenital spinal issue and broke her back twice in her life and got 18+ surgeries on it) and her dr prescribed painkillers for her. Over time she got hooked, and she ended up passing away of an overdose. It’s terrible that this happens
@@Just_a_cat_0 Medications can have addictive qualities. Most of the time it’s not the drug itself that keeps people using, it’s what it does for them such as pain management. Once/ if the source of the need for the medication is resolved, the medication itself has side effects (withdrawals) that make people feel really ill. To resolve that pain/ sickness people will continue to use to make it stop. Most addiction can never be addressed until the source of the problem is addressed (reason for use/ what they get out of it) so alternative coping mechanisms can be explored. The sad part is people will go to detox and treatment but end up back in the same community that often encourages use/ doesn’t support staying clean. It’s hard once you get really deep in addiction to find like minded people outside of addiction even when relocating. Hence why people feel they can’t get away from “certain types of people” (another example is people getting into abusive relationships over and over). It’s what they know and it’s hard to connect to people of different walks of life sometimes. Then with the lack of supports to assist you with staying sober/ addressing secondary affects of addiction, people often turn back to something to numb the discomfort. If people are really in deep they could be tied into drugs sales/ other criminal activity. If they are caught trying to escape, if they owe money or someone thinks they owe them, they get a target in their heads. The often are forced to participate in illegal activities to stay alive or feed their addiction (street drugs). It’s kinda scary when you dive into it. There was a lot I was ignorant to even when I thought I understood. It’s a dark world out there but we all have the power to try to make it better. Little by little. Day by day.
He does just like my husband: talks ALL OVER movies, but is so soft spoken, you can't understand what he says...just sounds like a wasp buzzing around! 😂
Ikr, it baffles me how many people think “just don’t do them,” or “seek help.” Like the fool above my comment 🙄 I mean yeah, they could never know unless they get addicted themselves, which I’m SO glad they haven’t experienced that, because that is literally Hell. But at the same time, have some fking compassion people. 🙄🤨
@@grapefanta5975it really depends. You can try to check yourself into a rehab, you can get set up with a Suboxone doctor they make you go through therapy there and will determine if you need to have inpatient treatment, they usually get you in pretty quickly according to my brother, even when my mom went there for the pain side of the Suboxone clinic not the addiction they got her in quickly but you can always try talking to your doctor. Unfortunately so many are incredibly judgemental and worry more about saving their own ass than helping you. The worst think you can do is go buy from the Streets tho. Obviously yeah it's better than dying to do withdrawals but trying to get help should be the first option. My brothers Suboxone doctor told him she didn't expect him not to get something off the street when he was waiting to get in to see the doctor but they still don't recommend due to laced drugs
@@grapefanta5975That's a complicated question, as it depends on the addict & what steps they're ready to take... I'm not an expert, but I've known a few people w/ addictions throughout my life. Largely, if it isn't someone in your life, just treat them w/ kindness, but mind your business. Addicts are well aware of rehab centres, psychiatrists, Methadone clinics, etc. If they were ready to go & had the resources, you can safely assume they know where they can go to take the first step. If it's someone IN your life & they're not ready to quit, you unfortunately can't make them... But maybe you can help by being supportive of them getting treatment for other mental health issues, since those always pre-empt addiction. If they hurt you, set boundaries & stick to them, but don't lash out - it won't suddenly click for them to change because they're getting yelled at. If they're ready... Maybe vet a few places to make sure they're legit. Spend time w/ them so they're less isolated & less likely to hang out w/ their drug connections. And don't be surprised if they relapse; sobriety is not linear & they should have the chance to try again. That's just my cursory input. It's an illness that is well out of a loved one's ability to fix or do damage control on... But support goes a long way, if there is still a bridge that hasn't been burnt all the way through.
Ahhh thank you so much for mentioning the "you can't know that". I can't tell you how commonly I would get "the look" from pharmacists. I go to one now who gets it. I switched pain doctors in 2021 and l I've been on them for 10 years. I have CRPS. Specifically I've been on oxycodone and morphine for around 8, before that fentanyl while I was relearning to walk and rebuilding muscle.
how did you even get the meds? im assuming youre afab from your picture and they treat women badly in the medical industry. asking bc i have chronic pain from 9 conditions and the suboxone was to manage my urges that come from the pain, but i dont feel it at all anymore except for when i dont take it because obviously withdrawl....situationally, youre very lucky to not be treated like a junkie by docs.
Yeah, it's really important to have a good relationship w/ your pharmacy when you're on a controlled medication. I've had a Dr accidentally screw up my usual pain RX [1x/day instead of 3x/day]... If I wasn't known by my pharmacy, I could have gotten the "the Dr is right & you're just upset they're reducing your dose" or flagged for drug-seeking behaviour. But they actually contacted my Dr's office for a corrected RX & they received & filled it. I'm eternally grateful to have pharmacists that do their jobs well & stay in their lane by not judging my Dr's decisions for my healthcare. Do I love being on such stigmatized & potentially dangerous meds? No, but I have a life to live & I can't live it when I'm in constant pain, so I'm going to do what I can to thrive as much as is possible. I wouldn't be able to cook meals or do my PT if I wasn't on pain meds. I hope you're doing as well as you can. 💕
I also have CRPS, I was fortunate enough to get into a special rehabilitation program got the condition when I was 17-18. It was the hardest program I’ve ever done. A whole team of doctors, three types of counselors, occupational and physical therapy, art therapy, and a tutor for school, plus a bunch of nurses making me do stuff with exercise and desensitization. It was rough. But painkillers don’t work well for this condition so forcing blood flow and desensitizing nerves to reset the pain signals as best as possible was good. Unfortunately because it’s impossible to keep up that level of work all the time I did have a relapse but at least now I know how to control it better when it flares up. Mine is full body and it sucks. My teeth can’t be desensitized so idk wtf to do about that. Sorry for rambling I don’t get to talk to a lot of others who get what this condition is.
I have CRPS/RSD in my right leg and went through the gammit of therapy, way too many injections, and continuous increases of oral opioid meds. By the Grace of God, I found the most amazing pain mgmt specialist who implanted an intrathecal pain pump. Got my life back and no longer take oral pain meds nor need increases due to “tolerance”. Going on my 8th year, never met a Doc with more compassion and understanding, I’d follow him to the moon ❤
As someone who takes oxycodone for my cancer, I'm honestly tired of pharmacists who think they know better than my doctor and try to intervene. I have large tumors that are incredibly painful, and yes I'm very young for someone who needs morphine AND oxycodone.
Ok, as a person that has to be in pain meds because of GI failure, and the horrible about of adhesions and scar tissue in my gut, and that pain is just the beginning. My intestines are so badly damaged to even flush my feeding tube can be agonizing. There is nothing more insulting than someone accusing you of being a drug addict. I’m lucky now in the way that docs and pharmacists don’t treat me like crap, but it took me getting way signer for that to happen. Now an ER doc comes in and asks what we need to do for pain. My chart reads that it’s a miracle I’m still here because of how jacked up I am physically. Not like they days before where I’d be septic, in excruciating pain and no meds at all. I have severe medical ptsd and if can be so hard
My daughter has problems with gastroperesies (spelled wrong) and Superior Mesenteric Something Syndrome. SMAS. Sorry, brain fart. I’m old. anyway she has a lot of eating issues and can’t gain weight. She’s had a feeding tube a couple of times and needs another one. I’ve been worried about the scar tissue that could develop. What do you think? It’s so hard to get help for cuz this disorder is so rare. Im so worried for her. Thanks.
I’m so glad my local pharmacists know me, plus one of the pain meds I’m on is only for use in patients with extreme chronic pain. It can’t be used for anything short term. I’ve been on narcotics for ages, so no one in my town blinks an eye. But man, the fear if my fill date falls during a vacation…. I’m always petrified I’ll run into an abusive pharmacist. (I have severe full body CRPS.)
I also have GI failure, but I was an a motorbike accident that crushed me from the chest down. Unsurprisingly those injuries give me a lot of pain as well - yet doctors will question my meds ALL the time!
Girl yes. I have Crohn's disease the only time i feel good is npo pain meds on the hospital. At least they are nicer now that the mris show the big clump that is my small bowel.
It’s such a shame how so many times Drs don’t understand how horrible GI pain can be. I almost died waiting for my gtube and at 90lbs so many told me I would be just fine if I would eat 🫠
I have severe chronic pain for years from a genetic condition. Yes, we do need doctors and pharmacists. But the relationship between pain doctors , pharmacists and long term, true chronic pain patients…is like an abusive relationship! I just went out of state to visit my daughter and the hoops I had to go through to get my controlled substances refilled was stressful and ridiculous! I am sick of being treated like a drug addict when I have followed every instruction to the letter and haven’t ever done one thing wrong in 30 years of pain meds!
I’m so sorry! You described it so well. I wish drs would stand up against the government as most overdoses are on street drugs! I’m a long time pain patient and they make it so hard on me….the pharmacy harassing my dr!
Funeral just happened for a guy that tried to detox without telling anyone. He secluded himself to try and fight it off and died from withdrawal. No one found him until days later.
You cannot die from opiate withdrawal but obviously it’s not a good idea to do it completely alone because you can definitely die from things like dehydration if you aren’t able to keep water down or get yourself something to drink. I just think it’s important to inform people that opiate withdrawals can‘t be deadly when done under the right conditions. Nothing I‘m saying is meant to minimize the hell withdrawals are tho and I‘m sorry that your friend/ acquaintance had to pass like that.
Please, do a little more research before you incorrectly educate people. People die all the time from strokes, high blood pressure, heart attacks and other serious side effects of withdrawal if they aren’t closely monitored by a physician and their symptoms treated. I’ve been sober 12 years and I had seizures coming off of opioids and that is not in the normal “literature.” Not every patient is the same.
@@AshleyKopituk I guess your comment is meant for me… I had a seizure going into opioid withdrawal not even that long ago and multiple doctors (you know experts) have told me that they aren’t deadly. I know that things can happen that could eventually lead to death like dehydration (that’s why I said that I would never recommend to do it alone - I don’t take this lightly and I know from personal experience how bad it can get) but the withdrawal from opiates/ opioids itself isn’t deadly. To me that is a massive relief (especially after I‘ve had the seizure) but I guess some people would rather spread horror stories🤷🏻♀️
@@Froggele ok thanks for the nitpick about dehydration but essentially he secluded himself which led to his death. Moral of the story, if someone is struggling with addiction, secluding themselves can lead to more problems. Asking for help (from the right ppl obv) can save their life.
@@nachaelaflores4307 I don’t disagree with any of that. It’s still important to me as an opioid addict myself to let people know that withdrawal from opioids/ opiates itself can’t kill you
Unfortunately I know many elderly people that are dependent and they were prescribed for real issues but now are physically dependent and when they are almost out of run out too soon to refill they call in freaking out...with complaints about how Bad they hurt,,,not even realizing that it's withdrawal starting. And since we're a cardiology office we don't call in the scripts for them.and the prescribing doctor won't or can't because it's too soon.
To be fair, my pharmacist calls my adderall scripts refills even though they arent. I fought hard to not call them that but honestly its just easier. Even if it isnt technically what they are.
In Australia we don't even have a distinction between a refill and a prescription, I didn't realise there was a difference until I read your comment. Here we just have "repeats" that are authorised per prescription. Say you get a prescription that has 30 days worth of medication, your doctor could add "3 repeats" to that prescription, meaning you can get your medication dispensed again after 28 days (sometimes sooner, depending on the medication) 3 more times before needing to see your doctor again. Is that not what a refill is in the US? How do refills work?
@biosparkles9442 In the US, it's like, you can use the same script several times. Whereas what youre referring to is multiple scripts. At least, that's my surface level understanding of the system.
Idk I’ve always had it called refills for the meds I took not sure what other way it could be called? Idk I live in the US as well maybe there is a difference idk.
Thank you for allof those who listed the movie. Mine started with teeth issues during pregnancies. I thought it helped so much until i couldn't get them anymore. Then came buying off the streets, and the came H/Black! EVERYONE OF US HAS SAID TO OURSELVES, I SHOULD BE STRONGER THAN THIS!!! MILLIONS OF PEOPLE HAVE DEALT WITH THIS BEFORE AND WILL CONTINUE AFTER US. WHY AM I SO WEAK!!!! I GET YA!!! I'M RIGHT THERE WITH YA!!!!
I have a chronic illness and have been on opiates for 10+ years. I am lucky that I am taken seriously by my doctors but I am in constant fear of being cut off or running out.
Agreed! I say this as well. I was on the same amount for years. I never asked for an increase, was just happy I had something to b able to b normal and then they took it away. And guess what happened? Yup ..to the streets ...
Almost always both... The mental aspects of the addiction are the worst part of weaning. Otherwise, it should be pretty easy to wean off of it, if you do it properly.
And we get judged and treated like crap by the pharmacy and staff. The worst part is you can't say anything about their abuse because they have control of the meds and can make matters worse just out of spite.
some people are like myself. i have intractable pain, i am on palliative care. im 25. for the past decade i have seriously struggled with my pain management because everybody i see ends up saying to avoid meds and im on too many pills. addiction needs to be taken seriously but so does chronic pain. some people can have a pretty "normal" life on meds if they cam get on the right meds. ive had over 50 back procedures at this point im literally a lost cause
My mother has had her entire spine fused and it's still disintegrating from osteoarthritis, if she's addicted to anything its being able to walk around and still care for herself because these sorts of medications alleviate her pain enough to manage daily tasks with difficulty.
the sad thing is i know if i was prescribed opiate pills i would be fully functional and could even work a job....I lay in bed and csnt even take care of myself, my poor parents have to take care of their worthless 24 year old deadbeat who cant even do simple chores like putting dishes away because the pain puts me in bed for days. :'/
I been taking Suboxone for years. They always look really worried when they see it's not gonna be covered by insurance like I'm gonna freak out about the $300. Always a sigh of relief when I tell them Ik here's the money
I was on it for 7 years. I have so much extra laying around my house that I could have gotten away with never going to the pharmacy. Finally off it 2 months though. Feels okay. I'll be honest, after 7 years I was somewhat tired of the judgement.
@@squarebear619 $300/month is a drop in the bucket compared to a $200/day addiction to anything else. People are paying even more out of pocket for weight loss meds.
Ending someone’s prescription is not “weaning them off”. Dependence specialists dictate that patients should have a MAXIMUM of a 10% cut in dose PER MONTH. But this comments section wouldn’t be poppin if they did things safely and compassionately when it comes to the meds they hooked people on in the first place so…
I have severe sleep apnoea, my GP kept telling me to relax and stay off my phone before going to bed. They took ages to refer me to the sleep clinic. I STOP BREATHING OVER 30 TIMES PER HOUR ON AVERAGE!!! Health care providers can be a nightmare when their personal prejudices come through. When i was referred to my psychiatrist the gp also ordered a translator to accompany me to it....ive been fluent in english for almost 20 years.... i was like wut.
ohey! I have central sleep apnoea as well! I only found out after I shared a hotel room with a friend, and he told me he woke up in the middle of the night to find me not breathing. He was about to call an ambulance when I started breathing again, and after that he was too anxious to sleep so he just stayed awake. He said I stopped and started breathing every few minutes for the rest of the night. It scared the shit out of him, but I had no clue at all, I just thought waking up tired was normal. Are you on any treatment for yours now? I've read the only thing that really works is a BiPAP.
@@biosparkles9442i have severe obstructive sleep apnea and my cpap takes my apneas down to 1-2 an hour (the safe rate is below 4). i don’t know about central as well but cpap is the only treatment for OSA and i assume bipap is the first line of treatment for central. i also have narcolepsy, which was diagnosed after my sleep apnea was treated because im still exhausted and HAVE to nap every day, as well as taking hours to fall asleep and waking up a lot at night. cpap hasn’t helped me feel any better, but getting my apnea under control is healthier for my heart and blood so i use it anyways.
LMAO that reminds me of high school when so many of us were mentally ill that the guidance counselor gave a lot us referrals to full therapy clinics (I guess we were that messed up idk) in the form of these these paper brochures 💀 used to do all kinds of origami and paper airplanes with them.
I love that people are being more aware Of the addiction epidemic but it also sucks because as someone with a chronic condition I now have to take them as prescribed. I use to only take the pain meds when needed but now if I don’t take them and I go to the Dr and my pill count is off by being more or it’s Not in my system I get in trouble. Then having to get them refilled all the time I get judged. You can’t win. And if I have a bad month (usually winters are harder on me and summers with the heat I do a lot better) i can’t even have a conversation anymore with a Dr about proper pain control. It’s become ridiculous. Not to mention I work for the state so THC in my state is not an option.
Yep. They created the problem by over-prescribing and now to cover themselves they are under-prescribing. Chronic pain patients suffer and it does nothing to help addicts. It’s not about the individual patient anymore.
Time to get crafty so they leave you be. Remove pills out daily so the pill count in bottle is right. But doesn’t mean you gotta take them. And a few days before appointments, start taking the pills as prescribed, so they’re in your system.
Some pharmacists can be complete jerks about filling opiates. It’s like every bottle comes with snide remarks and dirty looks along with Narcan being forced on you. “Guess what George, I am 100% aware of the dangers of opiates and am also allergic to almost every freaking one of them so risking building a tolerance with overuse isn’t in my plans, just hand over the bottle and keep your mouth shut.”
Lots of ins in my state REQUIRE narcan to be dispensed. Many won’t pay for opiates past a certain point UNLESS narcan is dispensed. Why are you angry at the pharmacist? “Keep your mouth shut” over Narcan???
I have a spinal issue, back in the day my Dr's, Neurologist's and pain management Physician put me on Oxycontin, it was a nightmare, it only relieved the pain for about 2-3 hours, no matter the dose. Its the only pain medication that was so ineffective. If you truly suffer there are pain medication that work the way they are meant to, don't give up.
I broke my hand and ended up with 33 screws and three plates, ibuprofen worked fuck ton better when they finally allowed me to use it. I loved that. I asked for non-opioids pre-surgery and a single 200 mg ibuprofen, after surgery they gave me morphine and hydrocodone as well as the oxy. I have never felt so much fucking pain my entire life. I hope that's what a 10 is.
If you truly suffer theres things that work. Oh yeah smartass, like what? I have 9 pain and nausea causing conditions and im only a junkie because they refused to treat my pain because they were scared of addiction. congrats, it had the opposite effect and i became actually addicted to street opiates because of the medical neglect and abuse, its the only thing that stopped the constant pain and throwing up, the only meds i can really take are lyrica and tizanidine and medical marijuana but i am still in so much pain and fatigue that i can only stay awake for maybe 4 hours before needing to take a long sleep
People also have little compassion for opioid addicts and fail to realize that all it takes is a bad accident or a major surgery to wind up in the same position. Every person I've met struggling with substance abuse all had the same story - it started with a Dr's prescription...
Not just drug addicts but because they themselves are addicted. It’s such a fvcked loop. I feel so much sadness for people in real pain who are prescribed drugs that are so addictive yet so helpful to them. The cycle is scary.
@@nenamichelle I have a severe pain condition. I've been on opioid painkillers for a decade. My body is dependent on opioids, but I'm not psychologically addicted. I use them as prescribed. After a year or so the effects that get people hooked go away. While people with pain conditions will need increases on medication and need to switch from one opioid to another through the years, addicts will want increases on their medication everytime the fun psychological effects go away due to tolerance, so every month or every other month. Severe pain patients get increases MAYBE every 5 years IF THEY'RE LUCKY. So no. We aren't addicts. My body is dependent, my mind isn't. I don't like being tired 24/7 but without them, I will end myself because my particular condition makes me feel like I'm on fire constantly and my skin blisters as if it's on fire too. I still feel like I'm walking on burning hot broken glass all the time, but the meds make it a little easier to ignore.
honestly they say anyone needing intense pain meds have an addiction. my mom gets accused of it all the time when in reality doctors aren’t properly treating her and she is in pain every day. it’s a sad reality for many black women.
Blame the fact that doctors were the reason for all the pills in the market before and now they are overly cautious because they used to over prescribe...
Not just black women. All women- all people in America- aside from those uber wealthy that have concierge physicians. This really isn’t a race issue. You are treated just as badly if you are white- often by black/brown pharmacists
I’ve got ruptured disk and retrolisthesis at L5/S1. Getting pain meds became such a PITA, my doctor would only give me 15 days worth at a time, and wanted me to take a drug test for every script, to make sure I was taking them and not selling them. That’s great and all, but the drug test was $150, and insurance wouldn’t cover it because it wasn’t “medically necessary”. I finally just learned to live with the pain. Sometimes it will get so bad that I need to go to the ER to make sure I’m not about to paralyze myself. Every time I’ve gone in it’s not been life threatening, but the ER docs always look at the CT scans and wonder how I’m walking, and ask me what I want for the pain. I just decline meds now, they give me just enough that I quit hurting for a couple of days and feel normal, but then have to learn how to deal with the pain all over again once the script runs out.
I worked at a store that had a pharmacy in it. All the mgmt knew the meds i was on. All the mgmt told the staff. Everyone knew my personal business. Pharmacist should not be able to make judgment calls. It should be illegal. It makes me feel sick that your health is in the hands of a person who can decide if they dont like the clothes you are wearing and deny you the mediation that AN ACTUAL DOCTOR prescribed. WHY IS THIS A THING!? And we wonder WHY people are addicted to drugs they can easily get on the corner down the block. #DOH 🤷♀️
If she is having withdrawls its the Dr's fault and DOES have a obligation to her his patient period. Look up patients rights. NEVER ALLOW PPL TO TREAT U LIKE THIS!
Alright, for all you naysayers that are against taking strong pain meds, after a botched surgery and removal of my galbladder I was supposed to get them for 3 weeks after (oxy, 1-2 a day). It helped me live and sleep better. My doctor stopped it, and had me walk there in excruciating pain, from a man who couldnt sleep at nights because it felt like the pain was choking me. Imagine being so tired but not being able to lay down. Doctor was proud to inform me they reduced chronic users in NL from 53 to just 3 people, and thats why they wouldnt give em. They treated me as a junkie, and im so happy that they just told me to live in pain, and perhaps die, because itd be better (especially for the statistics) over being a junkie. Thanks guys, I feel really human knowing that I have to be pampered by the government against myself, since they know me oh so much better right? After 2 months of usage, im happy I dont need it anymore, or rather choose not to use them. But fuck the medical world, fuck people treating me like a junkie, and fuck you if you feel as if pain is a more humane way for people over them having a relief from pain. You never knew pain if this is you.
I do want to say this. I was going to a psychiatrist after my second child was born. I was sent for postpartum issues and by the end of 2 months i was prescribed 5 different medications. I went to a large name brand pharmacy for about 3 months and every i went they treated me horrible. I live 30 minutes in a smaller city and if i had to wait 2 to 3 houra for my medications to be filled i would end up in the city ALL DAY. Including the Dr. Visit then waiting on meds. Anytime i would set it up so it would work out better for me time wise, its like the pharmacy would give me the hardest time. I would call my Dr and they would say no reason there should be a hold up. No your PA is fine. No the paper work is fine. . It got to the point where i would have to print my own PA from the DR office just to keep them from giving me crap about it. Im not saying all places are like that but if you think for 1 second that there isnt a biased standard when it comes to younger people and ANY schedules drugs you are lying. I went to the same place for 10 years and never had a problem until then. I eventually switched to a local mom and pop place and was treated so respectful and like a human being. I literally broke down in tears. The lady behind the counter gave me a big hug and told me no one should be made to feel that way. Ita not thier place to judge whose doing right or not. I been going to the small pharmacy every since. Even years later after i no longer to any kind of medications. Just the occasional iron pick up or antibiotics.
This totally pisses me off. Just because some people abused pain killers, those of us in chronic pain deal with debilitating, quality of life altering pain. When smug doctors go on the local morning news and smile when they suggest an asperin and sniffing pepermint, I could just scream.
Pharma lady you have no idea why i am on this med nor are you privy to my care plan. I hate. Hate questioned and looked at like a criminal for getting my rx’d med that require to keep the pain of RA ripping apart my joints and disfiguring me that i have had since childhood. The laws and reqs change every month and now that the medication is working and i can walk a little so i can travel i have to be back every month at the same time to get this med because you can’t change pharmacies within my own hometown much less out of state or country. 35yrs of different meds failing now i have one that works and im treated like poo my the professionals who are supposed to help fill the meds that do work Yes its a rant im frustrated. Talked to docs and legislators re these concerns and i get shrugs. Bad apples ruined life, medical care, access to medication for all of us.
Can’t help but feel for pharmacists after watching that video. (I’m not talking about the pharmacist in the film, as it’s a shitty representation) I know it’s just a movie, but it definitely evokes an experience I’m sure a lot of people have had working in healthcare. You wouldn’t believe the amount of abuse/vitriol you have to just shrug off from patients on a day to day process. You get demeaned every day by patients who don’t know how the healthcare system works, yelled at for things that aren’t in your control and of course, screamed and cursed at and just treated like a not a human being when you tell someone they need a prescription for narcotics, to name a few. Pain is a beast of an emotion and physical feeling, and I don’t wish it on anyone. As healthcare workers it’s our job to empathize with patients and do what we were trained to do. But those micro aggressions and sometimes even full out abuse add up over time. I’ve seen too many people burn out, depressed and suicidal working in this field. I’m not saying people should stop advocating for themselves - by all means, please do. The healthcare system is so frustrating to deal with and it’s so important to stand up for yourself and increase our healthcare literacy. But it’s never right to abuse the healthcare workers who are just trying their best to do what they can from within our broken system. I’m talking about pharmacists, nurses, techs, receptionists, therapists and so much more. (For real, you wouldn’t believe the stupid things some doctors prescribe, pharmacists are literal life savers with their knowledge of contraindications) My point is, please don’t see your everyday pharmacists, clinic staff etc as your enemy. If they’re straight out refusing to do something for you, there’s probably a good reason. A pharmacist literally cannot give you that medication you’re not authorized to take. They will lose their job, and means of supporting themselves. If something doesn’t make sense to you, it’s your right to question it. But please don’t resort to the immediate abuse that I’ve seen too many workers have to endure. Oldest rule in the book - kindness begets kindness. Not everyone you’re kind to will be kind back to you - but you sure as hell get better results when you treat people with respect. Sorry for the random internet paragraph guys - stay cool my internet peeps. TLDR; don’t cuss at your pharmacists, they’re people too. (P.S. - Talk to your local municipalities and representatives - you’d be surprised at the amount of impact a small group of people can make)
“if they’re refusing to do something, there’s probably a good reason.” -stupid, bs chain pharmacy rules (walgreens, cvs, etc) that aren’t the case at most pharmacies -personal bias are the top two reasons i’ve experienced. like when walgreens lies and says, “it’s against the law to discuss whether the pharmacy has a particular medication in stock,” even though there’s a national shortage of that medication, and it can be very difficult to find.. and i shouldn’t have to spend my days driving around looking for a pharmacy that has them. also, it’s not against the law. it’s against Walgreens policy, and it’s a stupid policy. if enough people complain to the techs and pharmacists, perhaps they will step up to the people above them and say, “exactly what does this rule accomplish, except sending business to our competitors who will answer the question over the phone?” but seriously, i’ll be nice when they stop lying. that seems like a fair deal. ps: i found an amazing mom and pop pharmacy that i go to now for years, and they have been incredible. they are kind and honest, and so i kind and appreciative. imagine that. hehe.
@@jillybeangaming Hi, I can totally understand your frustration with situations like that, and I’m sorry you’ve had bad experiences with pharmacies in the past. Seems like you have more of a problem with the chain stores themselves - which is not who I’m defending here. I assume Walgreens is a ?grocery store? (Correct me if I’m wrong, I’m not familiar with American stores) that contains a pharmacy? I can’t speak for everyone as I only have my experience here in the Canadian healthcare system, however again it seems like we’re debating about a systemic problem with larger corporations, big pharma and pharmacological companies, which I 100% agree exists. Their frankly absurd and money hungry policies are a pain in the butt to deal with for the average Joe and genuinely horrifying for people who are dependant on life supporting medications. From the old to the young, everyone is affected by this. Heck, just take a look at Novo Nordisk and the international shortages of diabetic medications we’ve had for years now - Hollywood actors pay thousands to get Ozempic and all its clones (Rybelsus, Wegovy etc) whereas millions of diabetic patients struggle to get their monthly supply. Novo Nordisk made a ridiculous $18 billion last year!!!!! That’s an insane profit margin - considering it takes less than $5 to make, compared to the US listing price which is around $1000. However, my point was that regardless of your feelings towards the larger systemic issues at hand, healthcare workers are a cornerstone of our society and don’t deserve to have your frustrations directed towards them. I’m not saying to stop advocating for yourself - I can see you’ve already done well by going to a pharmacy that works great for you. But at the end of the day, a pharmacist doesn’t control a chain store’s awful policies. You don’t get results by complaining to and harassing pharmacy workers - they just end up quitting and chain stores still win. Corporations will never stop doing something that benefits them unless people actively boycott and make it unprofitable.
awww the baby is upset that she got bitched at in a job she CHOSE and STUDIED FOR and KNEW she would be around people who are hurting. Im sure its so much worse thab all the medical abuse and neglect patients go through who have no choice but to depend on the medical system because the only alternative is street drugs. How do you think it makes all the patients feel? Its like a firefighter being scared of fires. Youre putting your life at risk in any job you do, just in different ways. Im sure cashiers and mcdonalds workers get the same amount of verbal abuse, and they work for minimum wage. Why the fuck are you blaming the hurting patients and not the system that leaves them like this? Be mad at the evil people controlling this shit show and profiting from chronically ill people and people with cancer
I refuse to use opioids, ever, because I know it really only takes once and I don't need some lazy doctor to leave me having to feed my new drug dependency on the street. Even when I was hit by a car, I refused to take them.
It's beyond me how easily the American healthcare system prescribes these incredibly addictive painkillers and then lets patients go cold turkey. Doctors in my country tell you to walk it off and maybe take an aspirin even if you come in with a severed leg.
2016 they ceased prescribing opioids for most things. There were even cancer patients being denied pain killers. The rate of opioid prescriptions is a fraction of what it was. But one extreme isn’t really better than the other. Now you’d be hard pressed to get a prescription for anything above tramadol, 2-3 days, for broken bones and kidney stones.
As someone who works in a pharmacy, (not a pharmacist but an assistant) if she had no refills, we would fax or call the dr for refills or the patient would be due for an appointment with the dr to see if they should be continuing the medication or starting to take lower doses. I am also genuinely so sorry to hear how many people have problems with getting narcotics or other medications refilled.
@@Likvidera buy limestone - crush it and put it in a glass with water. Than drink the water. You don’t have to drink the rock bits but your stomach and organs will thank you either way.
I know her pain. My ex rolled my car 9 times with us barely surviving and I had a TBI fractured a few bones and lost my left ear drum and I kept telling Dr my back was hurting and not right so instead of trying to solve my issue he gives me Hydrocodone and uses the words can be “habit” forming. In my 22 year old mind habit and addiction were 2 words that didn’t relate. Well 5 years go by and I can’t quit these pills without feeling like I wanted to crawl out of my skin. I finally got to a Dr that cut some nerves in my back and the pain is no more. But to get off of the pills has been a hell of a ride!
As a pharmacy tech I feel like you have to be a complete moron to think that. Do they think you just decided one day to have seizures. Geez, I'm sorry that happened to you
Idk what it's like in NA but in Australia the doctor can't prescribe repeat prescriptions for opiates, but then again we also don't have to pay hundreds of dollars per consult 😅
Sweating, out of breath, leg aches, nausea, diarrhea, mental turmoil.. I'm so glad I got clean and don't have to go through withdrawals anymore!! Maintenance meds worked for me I couldn't have done it without subs.
Transcript: "Oh it's an old prescription" "You can't assume that!" "Definitely [...looking for a refill?] right now" "Oh jeez" "Getting something for her at least" "Oh jeez" "Definitely has to let the provider know"
Been in recovery for 12 years from pain killers after getting addicted from having 13 brain surgeries and 200+ spinal taps. I thought I was hopeless but I was wrong! WE DO & CAN RECOVER!!! Don’t lose hope!!!
I was not into taking drugs, smoking, or drinking alcohol. I took xanax as prescribed by my doctor from 1996 to maybe 2005. I took myself off them.. I never knew people abused xanax until 2004. My friend told me a girl hat was at the same convention was asking around for xanax. I said she should have her own prescription. My friend told me people buy xanax to get high. I only knew people took prescription opioid pills for abuse. That's what I heard on tv.
There's a difference between addiction and dependency. She's obviously chemically dependent. I was this person, I couldn't wait to get my prescription. I would 180 10mg hydrocodone, and they would last maybe 5 days. I'm 4.5 years sober. I'm so happy that I freed myself from that prison.
You USED to be able to get refills… at least to my recollection…on Percocet and Vicodin at least… As sick as that is… I’m talking 20yrs ago. Pretty sure… That’s also back in the paper script days… I wanna say you could have 1 refill… I could be wrong… Either way, I’ve wanted to watch this but the CPTSD says it’s not a great idea. I DID openly weep tears of vindication when hearing the news of the drug co pleading guilty IRL tho…mine was a textbook case, and I was someone who didn’t smoke, drink, ect…went to the gym 7 days a week, ran 6 miles a day, went skydiving to take the edge off of life, and didn’t take advil for a headache…oh, and was a militant vegan. My dirty crime was a broken back.
Yep. I take prescription narcotics😮 daily for my EDS joint & muscle pain, as well as gastroparesis stomach pains & neuropathy. I figure, after being on hemodialysis for over 20 years, I'm literally dying anyway. I don't abuse my meds though; in fact I'm very grateful I get anything at all with the whole War on Drugs thing still going and all.🤷♀️
No verbal refills, especially narcotics! Paper only for those! Regular prescriptions can be sent over by the doctor's office though! My sis was denied decent painkillers (at least Tramadol) by the orthopedic doc she saw. He stated the ex ray didn't look that bad. She said you're not the one walking on it! Btw, she had both knees replaced. Not that bad!
Being a chronic pain patient can be so difficult. Not all of us are addicts. I've had pharmacists hand me similar pamphlets along with my schedule 2 meds. I've got an incomplete spinal cord injury and survived a septic MRSA infection that ate into my spinal bones and got into my spinal fluid. I take just enough morphine to keep me from constantly crying curled up in a little ball. Addiction is a hell of a disease. It destroys everything in your life, including you. I have a family history of addiction. Thankfully I don't have the urge to over use my meds.
When I was pregnant, my "therapist" wanted me to stop taking methadone, quit smoking, and stop smoking medical Marijuana could turkey all on the same day. Like "is today the day?!" I'm like "is today, what? the day you kill my baby?"
Using the rehab pamphlet to close your wound is wild
Do you know the name of this movie?
@Ruby Escobedo no I just no the people in it are wild
Taking metafore to a whole new level
I need some oxy.....oxy-gen ! LoL
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It’s so cool that he’s narrating his response to this scene. The only thing that could possibly make it cooler is if we could actually hear what he’s saying.
Issac I was thinking the same thing. I couldn't understand him other than 2 or 3 words.
Exactly my thoughts! He could've used subtitles to show his response at least!
Right?
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You need new scripts for schedule 2 controlled substances every month. 0 refills. I work in a mail-order pharmacy, and the angry and abusive calls we get from folks regarding these meds are intense.
Same here.
@@cloyeyeman1995 I've never received so much verbal abuse. And granted, I'm sure some folks are in pain, but these drugs really do f**k these poor folks up.
ugh that's so upsetting cause (im sure you know) you have to sign a document when going on a schedule 2 that's says literally exactly that 🙄 my doctor can prescribe 3 months but that's the max and only because I was on them for over a year and signed an additional agreement, I cant imagine getting mad at my pharmacy for that 💀
There is a really big distinction between chemical dependency and addiction. They tend to occur in tandem and while dealing with people who have this going on with its important to 1. Level with them and establish clear boundaries and create clear communication that shows u fully understand the severity of the situation 2. Acknowledge the real effects this is going to have on this person just like u would with a common cold or a person who’s depressed. 3rd we are actually advise them call their insurance provider and request a case manager because they clearly can’t get to help to be referred them to facility/hospital that can help them and keep them safe if u know this person and you’d like to advocate for them and express ur concern it will help a lot. if someone had a fatal wound we would call ems, addiction and chemical dependency can also be life threatening so while we may not have a responsibility to help them we can advise them to get on the phone with someone who can on the back of the card. Lastly 4. During Mental health crisis we actually dial 988 in the US just like we call 911 during an emergency. Call, explain what u saw and ask if The person in crisis would like to speak to someone who can help them, because you, are not that person. Have a great day
I just want to say I think it’s absolutely disgusting that you would become belligerent with absolutely anyone on the phone let alone someone who is providing u with a service and there’s absolutely no excuse for that, It’s astounding to me that is a regular part of ur job, I am so sorry u have to deal with that
My favorite thing about pharmacists in movies/TV is how it’s always just a singular pharmacist working with no technicians and they’re always just waiting at the register and doing nothing else.
Wait til u hear about bar tenders lol
Our store is like that. At most, there were 3. Now we only ever see 1 behind a protective barrier.
@@Volundur9567 if it's one of those tiny pharmacies or perhaps a hospital/clinic one, sure. But, I think we all know they're talking about the big corporation ones like CVS, WALGREENS, and RITE AID.
Welcome to Walgreens! 😂
Exactly and in reality you're up to your neck in paperwork keeping up to date with the latest literature and trends!
i wish i could hear your commentary lol
Right
Seriously
Yeah that would be helpful probably.
😂😂😂😂😂 literally what was the point in him being there.
I thought it was just me not being able to catch his words. Very frustrating.
No one has listed the title of the movie: A Good Person(2023) directed by Zack Braff
Thank you!!
Directed by ZACK BRAFF?!? From Scrubs?? Daaaaang!
@@fulltimeonfire8536he directs quite a lot of movies tbh and they’re usually quite good
I only know Zach Braff from bojack horseman
Thank you
I had a pharmacist refuse to refill my clonazepam on the day it was due to be filled because she said I was acting like I had an addiction issue. She said I was very anxious and fidgeting. Well of course I was anxious. I have chronic anxiety disorder and panic disorder. I’m always anxious. I called my doctor and they had a long conversation and then she filled them. Now every time I go to the pharmacy I only go to this one location I found because they know me there. I won’t ever trust another pharmacy outside of theirs.
They said the same about my 80 year old Mother. Filled on time for years and has a severe neurological disorder. Pharmacists should mind their own business.
I do the same thing with the pharmacy I go to. I have ADHD and have been on the same dosage of the same medications for 6.5 years now. The reason I go to the same pharmacy is also because I have a prescription history that goes back the same length of time. There's always hangups and frustrations with it, but not because of the pharmacy. Those incredible people at that particular location have fought for me on many occasions, and have cheered for me when I had to chew out my insurance company for the formulary changes that happen at arbitrary times, which patients aren't informed about in any way. They know to expect stupid, complicated bureaucratic bullshit for me, and to my understanding, this is common with ADHD patients. It wouldn't surprise me if it were also true for people with chronic anxiety, bipolar disorder, PTSD... As well as people with chronic pain. Like people who have necrosis in their bones, people whose joint replacements aren't being accepted by their bodies successfully. I've seen elderly people in that kind of pain, and it literally is that serious. The way the DEA and FDA make and enforce rules is crazy.
@@amysolley4268 My first thought after reading you was "I'm glad I'm not the only one." But actually it's so sad having medical professional being so unprofessional and insurance making harder to access something that we wish we wouldn't need in the first place 😢. Keep your head up yall.
i used to do the same and i was indeed very addicted not just completely physically dependent as i convinced myself i only was for the 6 years on benzos … i hope you find your faith and feel comfortable and live yourself enough to quit these while you still might have some control .. because i promise they will cold turkey you soon
Yep my pharmacist tried the same shit. Told me I couldn't take get my Adderall filled because I had a prescription valium 2 months prior. Mind you I only had a month supply of valium so a whole month went by where I hadn't taken anything so I was not mixing medications my doc was trying to figure out what worked best. My anxiety was caused by my lack of ability to focus. So the Adderall was the solution for me instead of anxiety meds and he gave me a month to let one out of my system before we tried another but the pharmacist decided to play doctor that day and I walked out with nothing and had my shit transferred the next day. Lol I am not on anything now because I am a recovering addict of fentanyl and xanax but im sure all my fellow former addicts know the feeling of leaving the pharmacy empty handed. Lol
That actress really nailed withdrawal. Just the cadence of her voice brings me right back to the Hell of addiction. Ive never seen it portrayed so well.
What a miserable journey it was to get clean but i wouldn't trade it for anything. There is nothing like being there for other people as they find their way out of that life and into the real version of themselves❤❤❤❤ We absolutely do recover
Her name is Florence Pugh if you didn't know and want to check out her other films. She's a very good actress! I'm glad you are doing better and are clean. You're doing great 😊
And the rage when they won't give it to you. I felt that. Happy to be clean today!
I’m so glad you recovered and are doing well!❤️ I’m hoping one day my aunt can be as well. She’s such a beautiful person with so much waiting for her once she’s ready❤️
I’m so proud of you ❤
I worked as a receptionist at a doctor's office and I could always tell who was calling to get appointments for refills on these kinds of meds before they even told me what they needed for exactly this reason! The way an addict talks is pretty distinct, but you're absolutely right, recovery is always possible!
Do doctors think going cold turkey is the only way to wean someone off something cuz that's how people die or do hard drugs that do the same thing
Well she’s a pharmacist so that’s not up to her
A doctor would never take somebody cold, turkey off opiates if they’ve been on the long-term unless they were positive of abuse, and even then, it’s not advised it’s advised to wean them off or to switch them to a suboxen or methadone medication.
Wean means to slowly reduce the amount over a period of time. It's not cold turkey and likely this isn't even her prescription. (haven't seen the movie)
My brother works in an emergency room, he has heard ALL the stories, repeatedly.
@@PhancyPants12unfortunately yes they would.
They probably tell you to reduce the daily dose but she didn’t do that because she was already addicted
I hated getting clonazepam refills because they would always cancel or not fill it multiple times. I was in school in Austin and my psychiatrist was in my home town of San Antonio literally 55 minutes away, and they eventually told me that the separate city Dr was why they thought I was an addict!!!
You are
@@stephaniealfred1297 😂 you’re hilarious
Either way if you are addicted or not it's not their business... If people can't get meds they will turn to illegal drugs
Idk they may or may not be wrong. Took me almost half my life to figure out people saying that to me weren't wrong. K pins are the oxy's of the benzo world. I've been clean for almost a year ❤
Can't the cold turkey of that kill you? It the generic of Klonopin, right?
Unfortunately, many people battling addiction start bec of real pain. They get a script for the pills and slowly they get hooked. My grandma was in constant pain (she had a congenital spinal issue and broke her back twice in her life and got 18+ surgeries on it) and her dr prescribed painkillers for her. Over time she got hooked, and she ended up passing away of an overdose. It’s terrible that this happens
That's what happened in this movie. She did have an initial accident but then kept taking them as an escape
@@Hoppypoppy21that’s really terrible
Can you be addicted to the lack of pain? Or is it just 100% the substance?
@@Just_a_cat_0 Medications can have addictive qualities. Most of the time it’s not the drug itself that keeps people using, it’s what it does for them such as pain management. Once/ if the source of the need for the medication is resolved, the medication itself has side effects (withdrawals) that make people feel really ill. To resolve that pain/ sickness people will continue to use to make it stop. Most addiction can never be addressed until the source of the problem is addressed (reason for use/ what they get out of it) so alternative coping mechanisms can be explored.
The sad part is people will go to detox and treatment but end up back in the same community that often encourages use/ doesn’t support staying clean. It’s hard once you get really deep in addiction to find like minded people outside of addiction even when relocating. Hence why people feel they can’t get away from “certain types of people” (another example is people getting into abusive relationships over and over). It’s what they know and it’s hard to connect to people of different walks of life sometimes. Then with the lack of supports to assist you with staying sober/ addressing secondary affects of addiction, people often turn back to something to numb the discomfort. If people are really in deep they could be tied into drugs sales/ other criminal activity. If they are caught trying to escape, if they owe money or someone thinks they owe them, they get a target in their heads. The often are forced to participate in illegal activities to stay alive or feed their addiction (street drugs). It’s kinda scary when you dive into it. There was a lot I was ignorant to even when I thought I understood. It’s a dark world out there but we all have the power to try to make it better. Little by little. Day by day.
@Just_a_cat_0 .."lack of pain"??? You mean "Relief"? Addicted to the relief from withdrawal....I could see that.
This would be a better "react" if we could hear you, my friend 🧡
He does just like my husband: talks ALL OVER movies, but is so soft spoken, you can't understand what he says...just sounds like a wasp buzzing around! 😂
Haha @@ajrod441
Lmfao. Thats liteally a fu whn ppl think its easy to get off opioids wen your body is physically demanding them. Smfh.
seek help
Ikr, it baffles me how many people think “just don’t do them,” or “seek help.” Like the fool above my comment 🙄
I mean yeah, they could never know unless they get addicted themselves, which I’m SO glad they haven’t experienced that, because that is literally Hell. But at the same time, have some fking compassion people. 🙄🤨
@@billyblastoffi was wondering, in a situation like this, how should one navigate it?
@@grapefanta5975it really depends. You can try to check yourself into a rehab, you can get set up with a Suboxone doctor they make you go through therapy there and will determine if you need to have inpatient treatment, they usually get you in pretty quickly according to my brother, even when my mom went there for the pain side of the Suboxone clinic not the addiction they got her in quickly but you can always try talking to your doctor. Unfortunately so many are incredibly judgemental and worry more about saving their own ass than helping you. The worst think you can do is go buy from the Streets tho. Obviously yeah it's better than dying to do withdrawals but trying to get help should be the first option. My brothers Suboxone doctor told him she didn't expect him not to get something off the street when he was waiting to get in to see the doctor but they still don't recommend due to laced drugs
@@grapefanta5975That's a complicated question, as it depends on the addict & what steps they're ready to take... I'm not an expert, but I've known a few people w/ addictions throughout my life.
Largely, if it isn't someone in your life, just treat them w/ kindness, but mind your business. Addicts are well aware of rehab centres, psychiatrists, Methadone clinics, etc. If they were ready to go & had the resources, you can safely assume they know where they can go to take the first step.
If it's someone IN your life & they're not ready to quit, you unfortunately can't make them... But maybe you can help by being supportive of them getting treatment for other mental health issues, since those always pre-empt addiction. If they hurt you, set boundaries & stick to them, but don't lash out - it won't suddenly click for them to change because they're getting yelled at. If they're ready... Maybe vet a few places to make sure they're legit. Spend time w/ them so they're less isolated & less likely to hang out w/ their drug connections. And don't be surprised if they relapse; sobriety is not linear & they should have the chance to try again.
That's just my cursory input. It's an illness that is well out of a loved one's ability to fix or do damage control on... But support goes a long way, if there is still a bridge that hasn't been burnt all the way through.
Ahhh thank you so much for mentioning the "you can't know that". I can't tell you how commonly I would get "the look" from pharmacists. I go to one now who gets it.
I switched pain doctors in 2021 and l
I've been on them for 10 years. I have CRPS. Specifically I've been on oxycodone and morphine for around 8, before that fentanyl while I was relearning to walk and rebuilding muscle.
how did you even get the meds? im assuming youre afab from your picture and they treat women badly in the medical industry. asking bc i have chronic pain from 9 conditions and the suboxone was to manage my urges that come from the pain, but i dont feel it at all anymore except for when i dont take it because obviously withdrawl....situationally, youre very lucky to not be treated like a junkie by docs.
Yeah, it's really important to have a good relationship w/ your pharmacy when you're on a controlled medication. I've had a Dr accidentally screw up my usual pain RX [1x/day instead of 3x/day]... If I wasn't known by my pharmacy, I could have gotten the "the Dr is right & you're just upset they're reducing your dose" or flagged for drug-seeking behaviour. But they actually contacted my Dr's office for a corrected RX & they received & filled it. I'm eternally grateful to have pharmacists that do their jobs well & stay in their lane by not judging my Dr's decisions for my healthcare. Do I love being on such stigmatized & potentially dangerous meds? No, but I have a life to live & I can't live it when I'm in constant pain, so I'm going to do what I can to thrive as much as is possible. I wouldn't be able to cook meals or do my PT if I wasn't on pain meds.
I hope you're doing as well as you can. 💕
I also have CRPS, I was fortunate enough to get into a special rehabilitation program got the condition when I was 17-18. It was the hardest program I’ve ever done. A whole team of doctors, three types of counselors, occupational and physical therapy, art therapy, and a tutor for school, plus a bunch of nurses making me do stuff with exercise and desensitization. It was rough. But painkillers don’t work well for this condition so forcing blood flow and desensitizing nerves to reset the pain signals as best as possible was good. Unfortunately because it’s impossible to keep up that level of work all the time I did have a relapse but at least now I know how to control it better when it flares up. Mine is full body and it sucks. My teeth can’t be desensitized so idk wtf to do about that.
Sorry for rambling I don’t get to talk to a lot of others who get what this condition is.
I have CRPS/RSD in my right leg and went through the gammit of therapy, way too many injections, and continuous increases of oral opioid meds. By the Grace of God, I found the most amazing pain mgmt specialist who implanted an intrathecal pain pump. Got my life back and no longer take oral pain meds nor need increases due to “tolerance”. Going on my 8th year, never met a Doc with more compassion and understanding, I’d follow him to the moon ❤
Guess I gotta be the hero in this comment section….movie name is: A Good Person (2023)
Thank you!
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Yes you are 😊
As someone who takes oxycodone for my cancer, I'm honestly tired of pharmacists who think they know better than my doctor and try to intervene. I have large tumors that are incredibly painful, and yes I'm very young for someone who needs morphine AND oxycodone.
Ok, as a person that has to be in pain meds because of GI failure, and the horrible about of adhesions and scar tissue in my gut, and that pain is just the beginning. My intestines are so badly damaged to even flush my feeding tube can be agonizing. There is nothing more insulting than someone accusing you of being a drug addict. I’m lucky now in the way that docs and pharmacists don’t treat me like crap, but it took me getting way signer for that to happen. Now an ER doc comes in and asks what we need to do for pain. My chart reads that it’s a miracle I’m still here because of how jacked up I am physically. Not like they days before where I’d be septic, in excruciating pain and no meds at all. I have severe medical ptsd and if can be so hard
My daughter has problems with gastroperesies (spelled wrong) and Superior Mesenteric Something Syndrome. SMAS. Sorry, brain fart. I’m old. anyway
she has a lot of eating issues and can’t gain weight. She’s had a feeding tube a couple of times and needs another one. I’ve been worried about the scar tissue that could develop. What do you think?
It’s so hard to get help for cuz this disorder is so rare. Im so worried for her. Thanks.
I’m so glad my local pharmacists know me, plus one of the pain meds I’m on is only for use in patients with extreme chronic pain. It can’t be used for anything short term. I’ve been on narcotics for ages, so no one in my town blinks an eye.
But man, the fear if my fill date falls during a vacation…. I’m always petrified I’ll run into an abusive pharmacist.
(I have severe full body CRPS.)
I also have GI failure, but I was an a motorbike accident that crushed me from the chest down. Unsurprisingly those injuries give me a lot of pain as well - yet doctors will question my meds ALL the time!
Girl yes. I have Crohn's disease the only time i feel good is npo pain meds on the hospital. At least they are nicer now that the mris show the big clump that is my small bowel.
It’s such a shame how so many times Drs don’t understand how horrible GI pain can be. I almost died waiting for my gtube and at 90lbs so many told me I would be just fine if I would eat 🫠
I have severe chronic pain for years from a genetic condition. Yes, we do need doctors and pharmacists. But the relationship between pain doctors , pharmacists and long term, true chronic pain patients…is like an abusive relationship! I just went out of state to visit my daughter and the hoops I had to go through to get my controlled substances refilled was stressful and ridiculous! I am sick of being treated like a drug addict when I have followed every instruction to the letter and haven’t ever done one thing wrong in 30 years of pain meds!
I’m so sorry! You described it so well. I wish drs would stand up against the government as most overdoses are on street drugs! I’m a long time pain patient and they make it so hard on me….the pharmacy harassing my dr!
Funeral just happened for a guy that tried to detox without telling anyone. He secluded himself to try and fight it off and died from withdrawal. No one found him until days later.
You cannot die from opiate withdrawal but obviously it’s not a good idea to do it completely alone because you can definitely die from things like dehydration if you aren’t able to keep water down or get yourself something to drink. I just think it’s important to inform people that opiate withdrawals can‘t be deadly when done under the right conditions. Nothing I‘m saying is meant to minimize the hell withdrawals are tho and I‘m sorry that your friend/ acquaintance had to pass like that.
Please, do a little more research before you incorrectly educate people. People die all the time from strokes, high blood pressure, heart attacks and other serious side effects of withdrawal if they aren’t closely monitored by a physician and their symptoms treated. I’ve been sober 12 years and I had seizures coming off of opioids and that is not in the normal “literature.” Not every patient is the same.
@@AshleyKopituk I guess your comment is meant for me… I had a seizure going into opioid withdrawal not even that long ago and multiple doctors (you know experts) have told me that they aren’t deadly. I know that things can happen that could eventually lead to death like dehydration (that’s why I said that I would never recommend to do it alone - I don’t take this lightly and I know from personal experience how bad it can get) but the withdrawal from opiates/ opioids itself isn’t deadly. To me that is a massive relief (especially after I‘ve had the seizure) but I guess some people would rather spread horror stories🤷🏻♀️
@@Froggele ok thanks for the nitpick about dehydration but essentially he secluded himself which led to his death. Moral of the story, if someone is struggling with addiction, secluding themselves can lead to more problems. Asking for help (from the right ppl obv) can save their life.
@@nachaelaflores4307 I don’t disagree with any of that. It’s still important to me as an opioid addict myself to let people know that withdrawal from opioids/ opiates itself can’t kill you
Unfortunately I know many elderly people that are dependent and they were prescribed for real issues but now are physically dependent and when they are almost out of run out too soon to refill they call in freaking out...with complaints about how Bad they hurt,,,not even realizing that it's withdrawal starting. And since we're a cardiology office we don't call in the scripts for them.and the prescribing doctor won't or can't because it's too soon.
To be fair, my pharmacist calls my adderall scripts refills even though they arent. I fought hard to not call them that but honestly its just easier. Even if it isnt technically what they are.
In Australia we don't even have a distinction between a refill and a prescription, I didn't realise there was a difference until I read your comment. Here we just have "repeats" that are authorised per prescription. Say you get a prescription that has 30 days worth of medication, your doctor could add "3 repeats" to that prescription, meaning you can get your medication dispensed again after 28 days (sometimes sooner, depending on the medication) 3 more times before needing to see your doctor again.
Is that not what a refill is in the US? How do refills work?
@biosparkles9442 In the US, it's like, you can use the same script several times. Whereas what youre referring to is multiple scripts. At least, that's my surface level understanding of the system.
Idk I’ve always had it called refills for the meds I took not sure what other way it could be called? Idk I live in the US as well maybe there is a difference idk.
@@biosparkles9442 HI Pharm tech here. What you call repeats, we call refills. It's just different words. Means the same.
Just a little constructive criticism. Maybe next time think about subtitling your voice or turn up your volume and lower the volume in the movie
Thank you for allof those who listed the movie. Mine started with teeth issues during pregnancies. I thought it helped so much until i couldn't get them anymore. Then came buying off the streets, and the came H/Black! EVERYONE OF US HAS SAID TO OURSELVES, I SHOULD BE STRONGER THAN THIS!!! MILLIONS OF PEOPLE HAVE DEALT WITH THIS BEFORE AND WILL CONTINUE AFTER US. WHY AM I SO WEAK!!!! I GET YA!!! I'M RIGHT THERE WITH YA!!!!
im so sorry the neglectful doctors never told you to start taking iron....childbirth and pregnancy are traumatic
I have a chronic illness and have been on opiates for 10+ years. I am lucky that I am taken seriously by my doctors but I am in constant fear of being cut off or running out.
Those of us on Narcotics for chronic pain are dependent not addicted.
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Agreed! I say this as well. I was on the same amount for years. I never asked for an increase, was just happy I had something to b able to b normal and then they took it away. And guess what happened? Yup ..to the streets ...
Almost always both...
The mental aspects of the addiction are the worst part of weaning. Otherwise, it should be pretty easy to wean off of it, if you do it properly.
A little louder for the people in the back please!
And we get judged and treated like crap by the pharmacy and staff. The worst part is you can't say anything about their abuse because they have control of the meds and can make matters worse just out of spite.
some people are like myself. i have intractable pain, i am on palliative care. im 25. for the past decade i have seriously struggled with my pain management because everybody i see ends up saying to avoid meds and im on too many pills. addiction needs to be taken seriously but so does chronic pain. some people can have a pretty "normal" life on meds if they cam get on the right meds. ive had over 50 back procedures at this point im literally a lost cause
My mother has had her entire spine fused and it's still disintegrating from osteoarthritis, if she's addicted to anything its being able to walk around and still care for herself because these sorts of medications alleviate her pain enough to manage daily tasks with difficulty.
the sad thing is i know if i was prescribed opiate pills i would be fully functional and could even work a job....I lay in bed and csnt even take care of myself, my poor parents have to take care of their worthless 24 year old deadbeat who cant even do simple chores like putting dishes away because the pain puts me in bed for days. :'/
The movie is called a good person. Tear jerking but definitely recommend
I been taking Suboxone for years. They always look really worried when they see it's not gonna be covered by insurance like I'm gonna freak out about the $300. Always a sigh of relief when I tell them Ik here's the money
Lol like a lmslight hiccup in acquiring your suboxone is gonna throw you into junkie tirades..... uhhh hello I’m over that shit.
Oh, didn't know the 1% got on random shorts to make comments. Fancy that.
@@squarebear619 I'm not part of that at all I make just enough to not qualify for subsidized healthcare
I was on it for 7 years. I have so much extra laying around my house that I could have gotten away with never going to the pharmacy. Finally off it 2 months though. Feels okay. I'll be honest, after 7 years I was somewhat tired of the judgement.
@@squarebear619 $300/month is a drop in the bucket compared to a $200/day addiction to anything else. People are paying even more out of pocket for weight loss meds.
Ending someone’s prescription is not “weaning them off”. Dependence specialists dictate that patients should have a MAXIMUM of a 10% cut in dose PER MONTH. But this comments section wouldn’t be poppin if they did things safely and compassionately when it comes to the meds they hooked people on in the first place so…
i guarantee you it's not that deep.
Perhaps you should check the volume before you publish. If I want to hear what you say my neighbours hear the movie.
And on top of that captions are unavailable
I have severe sleep apnoea, my GP kept telling me to relax and stay off my phone before going to bed. They took ages to refer me to the sleep clinic. I STOP BREATHING OVER 30 TIMES PER HOUR ON AVERAGE!!! Health care providers can be a nightmare when their personal prejudices come through.
When i was referred to my psychiatrist the gp also ordered a translator to accompany me to it....ive been fluent in english for almost 20 years.... i was like wut.
ohey! I have central sleep apnoea as well! I only found out after I shared a hotel room with a friend, and he told me he woke up in the middle of the night to find me not breathing. He was about to call an ambulance when I started breathing again, and after that he was too anxious to sleep so he just stayed awake. He said I stopped and started breathing every few minutes for the rest of the night. It scared the shit out of him, but I had no clue at all, I just thought waking up tired was normal.
Are you on any treatment for yours now? I've read the only thing that really works is a BiPAP.
@@biosparkles9442i have severe obstructive sleep apnea and my cpap takes my apneas down to 1-2 an hour (the safe rate is below 4). i don’t know about central as well but cpap is the only treatment for OSA and i assume bipap is the first line of treatment for central. i also have narcolepsy, which was diagnosed after my sleep apnea was treated because im still exhausted and HAVE to nap every day, as well as taking hours to fall asleep and waking up a lot at night. cpap hasn’t helped me feel any better, but getting my apnea under control is healthier for my heart and blood so i use it anyways.
LMAO that reminds me of high school when so many of us were mentally ill that the guidance counselor gave a lot us referrals to full therapy clinics (I guess we were that messed up idk) in the form of these these paper brochures 💀 used to do all kinds of origami and paper airplanes with them.
OxyContin doesnt have refills. You have to have your doctor refill it every month.
I love that people are being more aware
Of the addiction epidemic but it also sucks because as someone with a chronic condition I now have to take them as prescribed. I use to only take the pain meds when needed but now if I don’t take them and I go to the Dr and my pill count is off by being more or it’s Not in my system I get in trouble. Then having to get them refilled all the time I get judged. You can’t win. And if I have a bad month (usually winters are harder on me and summers with the heat I do a lot better) i can’t even have a conversation anymore with a Dr about proper pain control. It’s become ridiculous. Not to mention I work for the state so THC in my state is not an option.
Yep. They created the problem by over-prescribing and now to cover themselves they are under-prescribing. Chronic pain patients suffer and it does nothing to help addicts. It’s not about the individual patient anymore.
Time to get crafty so they leave you be. Remove pills out daily so the pill count in bottle is right. But doesn’t mean you gotta take them. And a few days before appointments, start taking the pills as prescribed, so they’re in your system.
@mystearicanohr9521 They take at least 3+ days to get fully out of your system. They also can't tell if you had 1 pill or a 100.
Some pharmacists can be complete jerks about filling opiates. It’s like every bottle comes with snide remarks and dirty looks along with Narcan being forced on you. “Guess what George, I am 100% aware of the dangers of opiates and am also allergic to almost every freaking one of them so risking building a tolerance with overuse isn’t in my plans, just hand over the bottle and keep your mouth shut.”
Lots of ins in my state REQUIRE narcan to be dispensed. Many won’t pay for opiates past a certain point UNLESS narcan is dispensed. Why are you angry at the pharmacist? “Keep your mouth shut” over Narcan???
I have a spinal issue, back in the day my Dr's, Neurologist's and pain management Physician put me on Oxycontin, it was a nightmare, it only relieved the pain for about 2-3 hours, no matter the dose. Its the only pain medication that was so ineffective. If you truly suffer there are pain medication that work the way they are meant to, don't give up.
Do you mean OxyContin or oxycodone. Nurse here and oxytocin or pitocin is a hormone used to induce or expedite labor
@@ukmary1968 Thanks
I broke my hand and ended up with 33 screws and three plates, ibuprofen worked fuck ton better when they finally allowed me to use it. I loved that. I asked for non-opioids pre-surgery and a single 200 mg ibuprofen, after surgery they gave me morphine and hydrocodone as well as the oxy. I have never felt so much fucking pain my entire life. I hope that's what a 10 is.
@@ajb779 Wow!
I hope you're better now
If you truly suffer theres things that work. Oh yeah smartass, like what? I have 9 pain and nausea causing conditions and im only a junkie because they refused to treat my pain because they were scared of addiction. congrats, it had the opposite effect and i became actually addicted to street opiates because of the medical neglect and abuse, its the only thing that stopped the constant pain and throwing up, the only meds i can really take are lyrica and tizanidine and medical marijuana but i am still in so much pain and fatigue that i can only stay awake for maybe 4 hours before needing to take a long sleep
This is me when I'm trying to get my Advair and Albutetol 1 day before the insurance allows. I CAN'T BREATHE!😢
Cant hear you over the audio. Can you add captions?
People with extreme pain get treated badly because of drug addicts
People also have little compassion for opioid addicts and fail to realize that all it takes is a bad accident or a major surgery to wind up in the same position. Every person I've met struggling with substance abuse all had the same story - it started with a Dr's prescription...
Not just drug addicts but because they themselves are addicted. It’s such a fvcked loop. I feel so much sadness for people in real pain who are prescribed drugs that are so addictive yet so helpful to them. The cycle is scary.
most are addicts because they were that person in extreme pain.
What’s worse than pain is the withdrawals
@@nenamichelle
I have a severe pain condition. I've been on opioid painkillers for a decade. My body is dependent on opioids, but I'm not psychologically addicted. I use them as prescribed.
After a year or so the effects that get people hooked go away. While people with pain conditions will need increases on medication and need to switch from one opioid to another through the years, addicts will want increases on their medication everytime the fun psychological effects go away due to tolerance, so every month or every other month. Severe pain patients get increases MAYBE every 5 years IF THEY'RE LUCKY.
So no. We aren't addicts. My body is dependent, my mind isn't. I don't like being tired 24/7 but without them, I will end myself because my particular condition makes me feel like I'm on fire constantly and my skin blisters as if it's on fire too. I still feel like I'm walking on burning hot broken glass all the time, but the meds make it a little easier to ignore.
It's amazing you don't put the name of the movie in👍
I can only hear the conversation but it’s hard to hear your comment
honestly they say anyone needing intense pain meds have an addiction. my mom gets accused of it all the time when in reality doctors aren’t properly treating her and she is in pain every day. it’s a sad reality for many black women.
Blame the fact that doctors were the reason for all the pills in the market before and now they are overly cautious because they used to over prescribe...
Not just black women. All women- all people in America- aside from those uber wealthy that have concierge physicians. This really isn’t a race issue. You are treated just as badly if you are white- often by black/brown pharmacists
I've heard that black people don't have their pain treated as well as white people do, and that is so wrong!!
Florence Pugh is hilarious
OMG!!! That is her, isn't it😮
I’ve got ruptured disk and retrolisthesis at L5/S1. Getting pain meds became such a PITA, my doctor would only give me 15 days worth at a time, and wanted me to take a drug test for every script, to make sure I was taking them and not selling them. That’s great and all, but the drug test was $150, and insurance wouldn’t cover it because it wasn’t “medically necessary”. I finally just learned to live with the pain. Sometimes it will get so bad that I need to go to the ER to make sure I’m not about to paralyze myself. Every time I’ve gone in it’s not been life threatening, but the ER docs always look at the CT scans and wonder how I’m walking, and ask me what I want for the pain. I just decline meds now, they give me just enough that I quit hurting for a couple of days and feel normal, but then have to learn how to deal with the pain all over again once the script runs out.
this movie absolutely WRECKED me!! florence pugh is incredible!
Every sign of a raging addict but too stupid to realize theyre fgiving themselves away!!
Oh you’re right she should just will her withdrawals away. You are not stupid at all....
@@malcontentplays2625 Ahahaha right?!??! People are so fking dense, it like me.
I worked at a store that had a pharmacy in it. All the mgmt knew the meds i was on. All the mgmt told the staff. Everyone knew my personal business. Pharmacist should not be able to make judgment calls. It should be illegal. It makes me feel sick that your health is in the hands of a person who can decide if they dont like the clothes you are wearing and deny you the mediation that AN ACTUAL DOCTOR prescribed. WHY IS THIS A THING!? And we wonder WHY people are addicted to drugs they can easily get on the corner down the block. #DOH 🤷♀️
Audio is a little hard to hear from the commentator :/
If she is having withdrawls its the Dr's fault and DOES have a obligation to her his patient period. Look up patients rights. NEVER ALLOW PPL TO TREAT U LIKE THIS!
Alright, for all you naysayers that are against taking strong pain meds, after a botched surgery and removal of my galbladder I was supposed to get them for 3 weeks after (oxy, 1-2 a day).
It helped me live and sleep better. My doctor stopped it, and had me walk there in excruciating pain, from a man who couldnt sleep at nights because it felt like the pain was choking me. Imagine being so tired but not being able to lay down.
Doctor was proud to inform me they reduced chronic users in NL from 53 to just 3 people, and thats why they wouldnt give em.
They treated me as a junkie, and im so happy that they just told me to live in pain, and perhaps die, because itd be better (especially for the statistics) over being a junkie.
Thanks guys, I feel really human knowing that I have to be pampered by the government against myself, since they know me oh so much better right?
After 2 months of usage, im happy I dont need it anymore, or rather choose not to use them. But fuck the medical world, fuck people treating me like a junkie, and fuck you if you feel as if pain is a more humane way for people over them having a relief from pain.
You never knew pain if this is you.
I do want to say this. I was going to a psychiatrist after my second child was born. I was sent for postpartum issues and by the end of 2 months i was prescribed 5 different medications. I went to a large name brand pharmacy for about 3 months and every i went they treated me horrible. I live 30 minutes in a smaller city and if i had to wait 2 to 3 houra for my medications to be filled i would end up in the city ALL DAY. Including the Dr. Visit then waiting on meds. Anytime i would set it up so it would work out better for me time wise, its like the pharmacy would give me the hardest time. I would call my Dr and they would say no reason there should be a hold up. No your PA is fine. No the paper work is fine. . It got to the point where i would have to print my own PA from the DR office just to keep them from giving me crap about it. Im not saying all places are like that but if you think for 1 second that there isnt a biased standard when it comes to younger people and ANY schedules drugs you are lying. I went to the same place for 10 years and never had a problem until then. I eventually switched to a local mom and pop place and was treated so respectful and like a human being. I literally broke down in tears. The lady behind the counter gave me a big hug and told me no one should be made to feel that way. Ita not thier place to judge whose doing right or not. I been going to the small pharmacy every since. Even years later after i no longer to any kind of medications. Just the occasional iron pick up or antibiotics.
Took me awhile to find but the movie is called a good person
Thank you
This totally pisses me off. Just because some people abused pain killers, those of us in chronic pain deal with debilitating, quality of life altering pain. When smug doctors go on the local morning news and smile when they suggest an asperin and sniffing pepermint, I could just scream.
the movie needs to be louder, we can still hear you
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Pharma lady you have no idea why i am on this med nor are you privy to my care plan. I hate. Hate questioned and looked at like a criminal for getting my rx’d med that require to keep the pain of RA ripping apart my joints and disfiguring me that i have had since childhood. The laws and reqs change every month and now that the medication is working and i can walk a little so i can travel i have to be back every month at the same time to get this med because you can’t change pharmacies within my own hometown much less out of state or country. 35yrs of different meds failing now i have one that works and im treated like poo my the professionals who are supposed to help fill the meds that do work
Yes its a rant im frustrated. Talked to docs and legislators re these concerns and i get shrugs. Bad apples ruined life, medical care, access to medication for all of us.
Can’t help but feel for pharmacists after watching that video. (I’m not talking about the pharmacist in the film, as it’s a shitty representation) I know it’s just a movie, but it definitely evokes an experience I’m sure a lot of people have had working in healthcare. You wouldn’t believe the amount of abuse/vitriol you have to just shrug off from patients on a day to day process. You get demeaned every day by patients who don’t know how the healthcare system works, yelled at for things that aren’t in your control and of course, screamed and cursed at and just treated like a not a human being when you tell someone they need a prescription for narcotics, to name a few.
Pain is a beast of an emotion and physical feeling, and I don’t wish it on anyone. As healthcare workers it’s our job to empathize with patients and do what we were trained to do. But those micro aggressions and sometimes even full out abuse add up over time. I’ve seen too many people burn out, depressed and suicidal working in this field. I’m not saying people should stop advocating for themselves - by all means, please do. The healthcare system is so frustrating to deal with and it’s so important to stand up for yourself and increase our healthcare literacy. But it’s never right to abuse the healthcare workers who are just trying their best to do what they can from within our broken system. I’m talking about pharmacists, nurses, techs, receptionists, therapists and so much more. (For real, you wouldn’t believe the stupid things some doctors prescribe, pharmacists are literal life savers with their knowledge of contraindications)
My point is, please don’t see your everyday pharmacists, clinic staff etc as your enemy. If they’re straight out refusing to do something for you, there’s probably a good reason. A pharmacist literally cannot give you that medication you’re not authorized to take. They will lose their job, and means of supporting themselves. If something doesn’t make sense to you, it’s your right to question it. But please don’t resort to the immediate abuse that I’ve seen too many workers have to endure. Oldest rule in the book - kindness begets kindness. Not everyone you’re kind to will be kind back to you - but you sure as hell get better results when you treat people with respect.
Sorry for the random internet paragraph guys - stay cool my internet peeps.
TLDR; don’t cuss at your pharmacists, they’re people too.
(P.S. - Talk to your local municipalities and representatives - you’d be surprised at the amount of impact a small group of people can make)
“if they’re refusing to do something, there’s probably a good reason.”
-stupid, bs chain pharmacy rules (walgreens, cvs, etc) that aren’t the case at most pharmacies
-personal bias
are the top two reasons i’ve experienced.
like when walgreens lies and says, “it’s against the law to discuss whether the pharmacy has a particular medication in stock,” even though there’s a national shortage of that medication, and it can be very difficult to find.. and i shouldn’t have to spend my days driving around looking for a pharmacy that has them. also, it’s not against the law. it’s against Walgreens policy, and it’s a stupid policy. if enough people complain to the techs and pharmacists, perhaps they will step up to the people above them and say, “exactly what does this rule accomplish, except sending business to our competitors who will answer the question over the phone?”
but seriously, i’ll be nice when they stop lying. that seems like a fair deal.
ps: i found an amazing mom and pop pharmacy that i go to now for years, and they have been incredible. they are kind and honest, and so i kind and appreciative. imagine that. hehe.
@@jillybeangaming Hi, I can totally understand your frustration with situations like that, and I’m sorry you’ve had bad experiences with pharmacies in the past. Seems like you have more of a problem with the chain stores themselves - which is not who I’m defending here. I assume Walgreens is a ?grocery store? (Correct me if I’m wrong, I’m not familiar with American stores) that contains a pharmacy? I can’t speak for everyone as I only have my experience here in the Canadian healthcare system, however again it seems like we’re debating about a systemic problem with larger corporations, big pharma and pharmacological companies, which I 100% agree exists. Their frankly absurd and money hungry policies are a pain in the butt to deal with for the average Joe and genuinely horrifying for people who are dependant on life supporting medications. From the old to the young, everyone is affected by this.
Heck, just take a look at Novo Nordisk and the international shortages of diabetic medications we’ve had for years now - Hollywood actors pay thousands to get Ozempic and all its clones (Rybelsus, Wegovy etc) whereas millions of diabetic patients struggle to get their monthly supply. Novo Nordisk made a ridiculous $18 billion last year!!!!! That’s an insane profit margin - considering it takes less than $5 to make, compared to the US listing price which is around $1000.
However, my point was that regardless of your feelings towards the larger systemic issues at hand, healthcare workers are a cornerstone of our society and don’t deserve to have your frustrations directed towards them. I’m not saying to stop advocating for yourself - I can see you’ve already done well by going to a pharmacy that works great for you. But at the end of the day, a pharmacist doesn’t control a chain store’s awful policies. You don’t get results by complaining to and harassing pharmacy workers - they just end up quitting and chain stores still win. Corporations will never stop doing something that benefits them unless people actively boycott and make it unprofitable.
awww the baby is upset that she got bitched at in a job she CHOSE and STUDIED FOR and KNEW she would be around people who are hurting. Im sure its so much worse thab all the medical abuse and neglect patients go through who have no choice but to depend on the medical system because the only alternative is street drugs. How do you think it makes all the patients feel? Its like a firefighter being scared of fires. Youre putting your life at risk in any job you do, just in different ways. Im sure cashiers and mcdonalds workers get the same amount of verbal abuse, and they work for minimum wage. Why the fuck are you blaming the hurting patients and not the system that leaves them like this? Be mad at the evil people controlling this shit show and profiting from chronically ill people and people with cancer
Correct.
I refuse to use opioids, ever, because I know it really only takes once and I don't need some lazy doctor to leave me having to feed my new drug dependency on the street. Even when I was hit by a car, I refused to take them.
I have been the person trying to get opioids refilled. Then going to rehab at 63.
And I have chronic pain and am expected to kill my liver, heart and stomach with obscene amounts of ibuprofen and acetominophen daily.
@@rickybobby5153lITERALLY
This depiction of pain medication patients is irresponsible and causes abuse by healthcare professionals.
my bday is august 24! and like 10 other ppl i know lol also i would yell at that lady to leave if she was cussing at me like that lol
What is this film?
Broke Back Mountain
Either pause the video when you're talking, or speak up lol
Oooh that’s my birthday!😊
I used to register patients in the ER and I got to see this a lot
It's so ironic that we have subtitles for the bit that we can actually hear
What’s the name of this movie
A good person.
This is either a really good reaction or a really bad one. Can't hear so I can't tell
It's beyond me how easily the American healthcare system prescribes these incredibly addictive painkillers and then lets patients go cold turkey. Doctors in my country tell you to walk it off and maybe take an aspirin even if you come in with a severed leg.
2016 they ceased prescribing opioids for most things. There were even cancer patients being denied pain killers.
The rate of opioid prescriptions is a fraction of what it was. But one extreme isn’t really better than the other.
Now you’d be hard pressed to get a prescription for anything above tramadol, 2-3 days, for broken bones and kidney stones.
I went in with a broken leg and got told to leave with ibuprofen. My dad needed spine surgery to get oxycontin
As someone who works in a pharmacy, (not a pharmacist but an assistant) if she had no refills, we would fax or call the dr for refills or the patient would be due for an appointment with the dr to see if they should be continuing the medication or starting to take lower doses.
I am also genuinely so sorry to hear how many people have problems with getting narcotics or other medications refilled.
More people need to know that they can eat limestone
Lmao, what's that do?
@@justfeeldbyrne2791 it’s limestone. It’s what your ancestors made their bone out of.
@@tvviewer4500 what are you talking about?
@@justfeeldbyrne2791 It tastes just like lime dude.
@@Likvidera buy limestone - crush it and put it in a glass with water. Than drink the water. You don’t have to drink the rock bits but your stomach and organs will thank you either way.
I know her pain. My ex rolled my car 9 times with us barely surviving and I had a TBI fractured a few bones and lost my left ear drum and I kept telling Dr my back was hurting and not right so instead of trying to solve my issue he gives me Hydrocodone and uses the words can be “habit” forming. In my 22 year old mind habit and addiction were 2 words that didn’t relate. Well 5 years go by and I can’t quit these pills without feeling like I wanted to crawl out of my skin. I finally got to a Dr that cut some nerves in my back and the pain is no more. But to get off of the pills has been a hell of a ride!
I had someone refuse to refill my SEIZURE MEDICATION because they felt like I was acting “addicted” to it….one of the worst days of my life
As a pharmacy tech I feel like you have to be a complete moron to think that. Do they think you just decided one day to have seizures. Geez, I'm sorry that happened to you
Dude my doc had me on oxy for 7 years i finally stood up and prayed about it and quit it all by myself 4 months now 🙏 🙃 😅 🙌
God is good
Idk what it's like in NA but in Australia the doctor can't prescribe repeat prescriptions for opiates, but then again we also don't have to pay hundreds of dollars per consult 😅
Opiate prescriptions are a single fill, one and done, here in the US.
You have never been able to get a refill on that.
I can’t hear anything you’re saying
Are we supposed to be able to hear you?
Couldn't hear a word you said
Is this the same actress as in midsommar?
I couldn’t hear a word he said
Sweating, out of breath, leg aches, nausea, diarrhea, mental turmoil.. I'm so glad I got clean and don't have to go through withdrawals anymore!! Maintenance meds worked for me I couldn't have done it without subs.
I watched the movie after seeing this clip- it’s a really good movie. A good person is the title 🖤
Omg I've been on Percocet for more than 10 years and I would ball my eyes out if a pharmacist talked to me like that 😭😭😔
Heres a great movie "The Pharmacist" its a great documentary
What is the guy saying? Lmao
Love love Florence Pugh! She's an amazing actress and absolutely nailed this.
Play the video louder, I can almost hear you 😂
Who is this actress? She kind of reminds me of Christina Ricci, who I love.
Florence Pugh. British actress. Very talented actor. Love her. And oh my I adore Christina Ricci too.
Happy Friday "Trouble".
💜 From Buffalo, NY 🦬
@@NadineWilliamsNadege oh ok I have heard of her before. Thank you!
Transcript:
"Oh it's an old prescription"
"You can't assume that!"
"Definitely [...looking for a refill?] right now"
"Oh jeez"
"Getting something for her at least"
"Oh jeez"
"Definitely has to let the provider know"
WHAT IS THE MOVIE???!!! I’m so sick of ppl never putting the movie title in the lower left description area!! WTF?!
Been in recovery for 12 years from pain killers after getting addicted from having 13 brain surgeries and 200+ spinal taps. I thought I was hopeless but I was wrong! WE DO & CAN RECOVER!!! Don’t lose hope!!!
I was not into taking drugs, smoking, or drinking alcohol.
I took xanax as prescribed by my doctor from 1996 to maybe 2005. I took myself off them..
I never knew people abused xanax until 2004. My friend told me a girl hat was at the same convention was asking around for xanax. I said she should have her own prescription. My friend told me people buy xanax to get high.
I only knew people took prescription opioid pills for abuse. That's what I heard on tv.
There's a difference between addiction and dependency. She's obviously chemically dependent. I was this person, I couldn't wait to get my prescription. I would 180 10mg hydrocodone, and they would last maybe 5 days. I'm 4.5 years sober. I'm so happy that I freed myself from that prison.
I have not seen this movie. But now that I know it exists I will see it!!! Addict in recovery here. Florence played this PERFECTLY.
I love Florence she’s such an Amazing actress
You USED to be able to get refills… at least to my recollection…on Percocet and Vicodin at least…
As sick as that is…
I’m talking 20yrs ago.
Pretty sure…
That’s also back in the paper script days…
I wanna say you could have 1 refill…
I could be wrong…
Either way, I’ve wanted to watch this but the CPTSD says it’s not a great idea.
I DID openly weep tears of vindication when hearing the news of the drug co pleading guilty IRL tho…mine was a textbook case, and I was someone who didn’t smoke, drink, ect…went to the gym 7 days a week, ran 6 miles a day, went skydiving to take the edge off of life, and didn’t take advil for a headache…oh, and was a militant vegan. My dirty crime was a broken back.
Yep. I take prescription narcotics😮 daily for my EDS joint & muscle pain, as well as gastroparesis stomach pains & neuropathy. I figure, after being on hemodialysis for over 20 years, I'm literally dying anyway. I don't abuse my meds though; in fact I'm very grateful I get anything at all with the whole War on Drugs thing still going and all.🤷♀️
No verbal refills, especially narcotics! Paper only for those! Regular prescriptions can be sent over by the doctor's office though! My sis was denied decent painkillers (at least Tramadol) by the orthopedic doc she saw. He stated the ex ray didn't look that bad. She said you're not the one walking on it! Btw, she had both knees replaced. Not that bad!
Being a chronic pain patient can be so difficult. Not all of us are addicts. I've had pharmacists hand me similar pamphlets along with my schedule 2 meds. I've got an incomplete spinal cord injury and survived a septic MRSA infection that ate into my spinal bones and got into my spinal fluid. I take just enough morphine to keep me from constantly crying curled up in a little ball.
Addiction is a hell of a disease. It destroys everything in your life, including you. I have a family history of addiction. Thankfully I don't have the urge to over use my meds.
When I was pregnant, my "therapist" wanted me to stop taking methadone, quit smoking, and stop smoking medical Marijuana could turkey all on the same day. Like "is today the day?!" I'm like "is today, what? the day you kill my baby?"