Honestly the realest take I've heard about Rush in this hearing so far. I can totally see this being the case. He refused to accept criticism or failure to a wild degree and often seemed "high on his own supply" when talking about Oceangate to media or anyone interviewing him
Rush was incredibly selfish, he knew his sub was dangerous & he took an innocent father & his son down with him. The other two men were more experienced deep dive explorers & should've known better.
There’s some great interviews of Karl Stanley out there - he’s an interesting guy. He has built subs for years and is passionate about the subject and repeatedly warned Rush would he was doing was dangerous. He even went on a test dive on Titan and told Rush that popping noise was the carbon hull delaminating. People like him and ‘Big Jim’ Cameron are genuinely fascinated by what’s down there - Rush looked at undersea exploration as just something to exploit and make money from. If he thought you could frack the ocean floor he would have done it.
This is exactly what I think. I think it was intentional, he didn't want to go out alone and the weight of the generations of his accomplished family before him finally convinced him to go out with a bang.
I don't believe it was intentional. Considering all the near misses the Titan had, it was only a matter of time that a sudden catastrophic hull failure would occur sooner or later. Sadly, five people lost their lives due to arrogance.
I think it was both. He might have been money motivated and greedy, but his sub was definitely deteriorating with other dives and sounds it made, he knew it was eventually going to implode but, improving it or redesigning it was out of the question because it would cost money. Gluing together something that has to withstand extreme pressure is eventually going to fail, and this was his answer to all his problems amounting.
No, to deliberately kill 4 other people would've been monstrous and not at all clever in that precarious situation. We know what a narcissist he was, but I think he had no intention of dying that day. (The others on the Titan had paid him a huge amount of money each too).
He was too proud to admit he'd designed a junk sub. He knew he'd go out instantly without having to face the earthly consequences. He was probably in denial up to the end. Narcissists aren't right in the head.
I think he wanted to be part of a large rescue operation or other drama. He more or less intentionally got a sub stuck before on the Doria believe. It seems like deliberate negligence
If he was a classical, stereotypical psychopath he wouldn’t have gone in there with his victims, so like the above poster said. He was more of a standard sociopath who thought he was smart enough to be a psycho and failed at it!
The youngest person on the sub when it imploded was only 19. You have to be really wicked to take the life of someone that young just to fuel your own delusions.
Karl Stanley knew him the best. And Karl knew that deep down Rush actually knew the truths/ dangers of what he was doing. But he needed Fame, and this gave it to him. Rush was Horribly self, narcissistic, and cared not for those he killed next to him.😊
Basically Stanley was saying to Rush your sub has so many faults it needs scrapping you need to go back to square one and follow sound engineering for these types of craft. Not what a narcissist self proclaimed inovating genius wants to hear. Probably thought he'd get one over on Karl by continuing to dive in his death trap. 13 dives picked up 118 failures and faults. Only Rush would have continued with "That thing"-as Titan has been aptly described.
@@infrasleep I’ve seen many other interviews by Karl. He had many phases of grief. But he said Rush knew it would end in catastrophe, and that Rush expected to die this way, but he was so desperate for fame or infamy, he was ok with that. Karl, like most others, was pissed that Rush knew a catastrophe was going to happen, but cared NOTHING about the people he took with him.
Honestly the man was so pathetic he would have taken infamy as a success. He is now the most well known person in his families lineage and to him that is the ultimate boner-fuel.
@@sky_pirate Ah yes, didn't she supposedly drown in a toilet bowl?! I think it's an urban myth, but it was a great story! Good call. I'd rather be infamous for dying with my head down the crapper, than the infamy Stockton Rush achieved - taking four innocent people to oblivion with him, inside a carbon fibre coffin.
Stockton throwing the controller at Lochridge's head makes more sense with this context in mind, he wanted to die down there and didn't want to be saved from his suicidal trips.
According to an interview with Karl Stanley Rush was attending secret society parties in bohemian Grove. AKA "Swingin' with the big dicks" he felt presured to prove himself to his peers.
Since the beginning of this disaster I’ve been thinking to myself that this all sounds like a very elaborate way to commit suicide and take others with him.
I think Paul Nargeolet was getting Old and wanted to visit Titanic again knowing he would not return home. I have watched Video of him and he looked sad, almost like he knew he would never see Titanic again on an expedition. I think he knew he would not Return this time
That’s what I don’t get! Nargeolet wasn’t just some mega rich thrill seeker, he was an experienced diver who had been in many submersibles, he must have had concerns about the Titans safety, surely it would have been against his basic ethics as a professional to have not said anything, if not for himself but for the lives of others!
@@goldedrag111 sorry but I don’t buy that, do you think he looked at that young lad who was only going on the dive for his father and thought….I don’t care if you die! There has to be more to this!
@@goldedrag111 so what! You can be depressed about losing a loved one and still function as a rational human being! All I am saying is that it is just not as black and white as that, you just don’t neglect your own life and that of others just because you are grieving!
„…what will you say to your Investors if its not working…“ thanks don’t need to hear anymore… absolute crazy shit, ignorance on so many levels killed these people…
Actually, I don't think success was a possible outcome. It's unlikely the money paid by the passengers was enough to cover operations. Failure, implosion, was the best outcome for Rush.
This was fantastic testimony about the Titan. (When will the news org's realize people are sick to death of 12 year olds relating the story to their viewers.)
@@xvhkgreen6297what’s fake? The titan implosion? The hearing? It’s literally not fake. Not everything is fake unless you believe we live in a simulation and to you literally everything actually is fake. Why would anyone fake this? Nobody benefits. There’s no motive.
😅 what I don’t understand is that OceanGate produced videos that they took down many private. One was literally called “Fathet and Son” showing a father and Son bonding on a trip to Titanic. How dare they not make these videos public.
Poor reporting from the media once again.. You people keep referencing the Titan, well there were basically two of them - same end caps, different carbon fiber hull... The trip Mr. Stanley took and is referencing is the Version 1 vessel, not the 2nd version that imploded at the Titanic site..
Uh, yes the most famous, but also famous for being a reckless fool. And if he was a billionaire, does it matter if his submersible company failed? He would still have more than enough money to enjoy himself for several lifetimes. I don’t go along with it. He could have lived and become famous for something else. Something that didn’t kill 4 other people and himself. Unless he was also insane? It might make sense if he had severe mental problems.
I think you would be angry too if someone took you on a ride and didn’t disclose all the risks. Karl takes safety very seriously, does regular maintenance on Idabel. He’s done over 2,000 safe dives. What have you done with your life?
The editing on this video could be better. His interview sounds so quiet, and then it is interrupted regularly by the woman screaming the details. Lower her volume so the overall video is more consistent in volume. That will make it easier and more enjoyable to watch.
Honestly the realest take I've heard about Rush in this hearing so far. I can totally see this being the case. He refused to accept criticism or failure to a wild degree and often seemed "high on his own supply" when talking about Oceangate to media or anyone interviewing him
There’s another clip of this guy, you’ve probably seen it, going on about country clubs etc and his dad’s obituary
how did rush afford all this?
Rush was incredibly selfish, he knew his sub was dangerous & he took an innocent father & his son down with him. The other two men were more experienced deep dive explorers & should've known better.
Yeah it sounds like others involved with these vessles like James Cameron were mythed Nargeolet was aboard knowing the danger
They were too rich to be innocent
They all should have known better
@@SMGJohnwtf........ grow up
@@jolttsp
Thank you, I will do so instead of diving to Titanic in a plastic box and putting my kids at risk ontop of it.
Imagine seeing a chance to have the whole world think you're a massive moron and deciding "at least they'll know who I am"
taking 4 other ppl life to make a name for his own as daredevil in diving world. except he is known as narcist criminal
Yeah but thats what he'll go down for
There’s some great interviews of Karl Stanley out there - he’s an interesting guy. He has built subs for years and is passionate about the subject and repeatedly warned Rush would he was doing was dangerous. He even went on a test dive on Titan and told Rush that popping noise was the carbon hull delaminating. People like him and ‘Big Jim’ Cameron are genuinely fascinated by what’s down there - Rush looked at undersea exploration as just something to exploit and make money from. If he thought you could frack the ocean floor he would have done it.
Except, he's now INFAMOUS. 👏👏👏 Way to go, bud.
Like the Three Amigos “He’s not just famous - he’s infamous!”
This is exactly what I think. I think it was intentional, he didn't want to go out alone and the weight of the generations of his accomplished family before him finally convinced him to go out with a bang.
I don't believe it was intentional. Considering all the near misses the Titan had, it was only a matter of time that a sudden catastrophic hull failure would occur sooner or later. Sadly, five people lost their lives due to arrogance.
I think it was both. He might have been money motivated and greedy, but his sub was definitely deteriorating with other dives and sounds it made, he knew it was eventually going to implode but, improving it or redesigning it was out of the question because it would cost money. Gluing together something that has to withstand extreme pressure is eventually going to fail, and this was his answer to all his problems amounting.
No, to deliberately kill 4 other people would've been monstrous and not at all clever in that precarious situation.
We know what a narcissist he was, but I think he had no intention of dying that day. (The others on the Titan had paid him a huge amount of money each too).
He was too proud to admit he'd designed a junk sub. He knew he'd go out instantly without having to face the earthly consequences. He was probably in denial up to the end. Narcissists aren't right in the head.
I think he wanted to be part of a large rescue operation or other drama. He more or less intentionally got a sub stuck before on the Doria believe.
It seems like deliberate negligence
So he was a psychopath .. Got it.
Probably more narcissist and sociopath.
Do you know any more buzzwords? 😂 @@andrewtaylor940
If he was a classical, stereotypical psychopath he wouldn’t have gone in there with his victims, so like the above poster said. He was more of a standard sociopath who thought he was smart enough to be a psycho and failed at it!
I believe the medical term is cnut.
Yep 🤦🏾♀️
The youngest person on the sub when it imploded was only 19. You have to be really wicked to take the life of someone that young just to fuel your own delusions.
Karl Stanley knew him the best. And
Karl knew that deep down Rush actually
knew the truths/ dangers of what he was
doing. But he needed Fame, and this gave
it to him. Rush was Horribly self, narcissistic,
and cared not for those he killed next to him.😊
Basically Stanley was saying to Rush your sub has so many faults it needs scrapping you need to go back to square one and follow sound engineering for these types of craft. Not what a narcissist self proclaimed inovating genius wants to hear. Probably thought he'd get one over on Karl by continuing to dive in his death trap. 13 dives picked up 118 failures and faults. Only Rush would have continued with "That thing"-as Titan has been aptly described.
@@infrasleep I’ve seen many other interviews by Karl. He had many phases of grief. But
he said Rush knew it would end in catastrophe, and that Rush expected to die this way, but he was so desperate for fame or infamy, he was ok with that. Karl, like most others, was pissed that
Rush knew a catastrophe was going to happen, but cared NOTHING about the people he took with him.
But now he slumbers,
In a dark watery grave,
Wandering the depths.......
Bravo Sir. May I embroider it?
@@DL-cs6fz
That is what Narcissism is, isn’t it?
No empathy for others.
Stockton Rush hid cracks in the hull, by painting the outside with Flex-Seal, then refusing to remove the interior insert for visual inspection.
And using gorilla glue
@@12AB17 not at all like peanut butter..it had a more watery texture
Flex seal : )
That's a lot of damage!
Should have used only flex seal instead of carbon fiber
There's a lot of wisdom in this guy's conclusion. However, Stockton Rush didn't achieve fame, but infamy, a very different thing!
Actually to be infamous you must be famous, Famous means "well known" and Infamous means "well known for some bad quality or deed".
@@Nib_Nob-t7x That was my point!
Honestly the man was so pathetic he would have taken infamy as a success. He is now the most well known person in his families lineage and to him that is the ultimate boner-fuel.
@@glamdolly30You remember that Frasier Crane episode where Roz recounts Lupe Velez?
@@sky_pirate Ah yes, didn't she supposedly drown in a toilet bowl?! I think it's an urban myth, but it was a great story! Good call.
I'd rather be infamous for dying with my head down the crapper, than the infamy Stockton Rush achieved - taking four innocent people to oblivion with him, inside a carbon fibre coffin.
Struck by lightning? They never bothered about what that does to trees?
It got hit by lightning? Zeus himself was telling stockton not to do this.
Stockton throwing the controller at Lochridge's head makes more sense with this context in mind, he wanted to die down there and didn't want to be saved from his suicidal trips.
He brought innocent people with him to deflect that point away from him.
He didn't wanna die alone
This testimony only confirms my thoughts that Stockton Rush was mad and just wanted to be famous like his dad and grandfather.
now he’s infamous
According to an interview with Karl Stanley Rush was attending secret society parties in bohemian Grove. AKA "Swingin' with the big dicks" he felt presured to prove himself to his peers.
Stanley’s the one that said it sounded like small arms fire
Stockton rush is in hell right now
I noticed Rush spoke compulsively and blatantly,in interviews when someone would ask him a question about his sub. Kind of a, I don't care attitude.
the man was clearly done with life and other people.
Nothing of value was lost that day except for ocean gates workers losing their job
ABC, what is wrong with your volume levels?? Fix them properly, don't just use auto-leveling!
That is an excellent explanation of his motivation...
I mean I think most of us could deduce it was gonna end like this!!
OceanGate, Heaven's Gate.
Watergate 😂
Don't think that's where they're going...
SeaGate, worst hard drives.
Elongate, now Stocktongate
Since the beginning of this disaster I’ve been thinking to myself that this all sounds like a very elaborate way to commit suicide and take others with him.
This is wild to hear and really insightful into just what a piece of crap he was.
Nothing more reliable than the ego of a billionaire.
How they hell did he convince the two well know divers into the sub that’s the real question? They get a discount or something?
He was a fast talking saleman
I think Paul Nargeolet was getting Old and wanted to visit Titanic again knowing he would not return home. I have watched Video of him and he looked sad, almost like he knew he would never see Titanic again on an expedition. I think he knew he would not Return this time
That’s what I don’t get! Nargeolet wasn’t just some mega rich thrill seeker, he was an experienced diver who had been in many submersibles, he must have had concerns about the Titans safety, surely it would have been against his basic ethics as a professional to have not said anything, if not for himself but for the lives of others!
@@Tawny6702He lost his wife and he didn’t care about his own well being.
@@goldedrag111 sorry but I don’t buy that, do you think he looked at that young lad who was only going on the dive for his father and thought….I don’t care if you die! There has to be more to this!
@@Tawny6702 There’s literally a conversation between Paul Nargeolet and a friend that has him sound depressed about his wife’s death.
@@goldedrag111 so what! You can be depressed about losing a loved one and still function as a rational human being! All I am saying is that it is just not as black and white as that, you just don’t neglect your own life and that of others just because you are grieving!
Starting making sense this madness !!!!
„…what will you say to your Investors if its not working…“ thanks don’t need to hear anymore… absolute crazy shit, ignorance on so many levels killed these people…
A very literal illustration of the sunk costs fallacy.
I think it was just a huge oversight. Some of the smartest people I know are also the dumbest because they think they know it all.
😂 true, sad but true . . . 😅
I like how you edited out ALL MENTION of bohemian club people funding this....
From Rush’s perspective this was 100% safe bet (for him). Either it succeeds and he makes a ton of $, or he never knows it didn’t.
What a scumbag.
Actually, I don't think success was a possible outcome. It's unlikely the money paid by the passengers was enough to cover operations. Failure, implosion, was the best outcome for Rush.
Famous like 'the Mendez brothers', C. Manson, and the guy who missed Yoko Ohno.
This was fantastic testimony about the Titan.
(When will the news org's realize people are sick to death of 12 year olds relating the story to their viewers.)
when you realize its fake.
@@xvhkgreen6297what’s fake? The titan implosion? The hearing? It’s literally not fake. Not everything is fake unless you believe we live in a simulation and to you literally everything actually is fake. Why would anyone fake this? Nobody benefits. There’s no motive.
Rude, just so rude.
He's definitely the most famous but not in a good way
Adolph Hitler syndrome ? . . . 😂
When you are creating a new path alone it’s impossible for some to differentiate the difficulty from the bad ideas.
What a terrible man
Karl is such a smart man
😅 what I don’t understand is that OceanGate produced videos that they took down many private. One was literally called “Fathet and Son” showing a father and Son bonding on a trip to Titanic. How dare they not make these videos public.
Rush -is- was the quintessential tech bro…
Poor reporting from the media once again.. You people keep referencing the Titan, well there were basically two of them - same end caps, different carbon fiber hull... The trip Mr. Stanley took and is referencing is the Version 1 vessel, not the 2nd version that imploded at the Titanic site..
Hey knew what he was doing... "he knew it was going to happen and he will be the most famous of his family" facts cause he is now
Uh, yes the most famous, but also famous for being a reckless fool. And if he was a billionaire, does it matter if his submersible company failed? He would still have more than enough money to enjoy himself for several lifetimes. I don’t go along with it. He could have lived and become famous for something else. Something that didn’t kill 4 other people and himself. Unless he was also insane? It might make sense if he had severe mental problems.
Stockton Rush wanted to be remembered as an innovator. I guess he is remembered that way but not for good reason
Rush is a goddamn murderer
From a guy who also does not certify his subs. He seems angry that this has hit his own business because of the focus now on safety.
Haha! Good to know
I think you would be angry too if someone took you on a ride and didn’t disclose all the risks. Karl takes safety very seriously, does regular maintenance on Idabel. He’s done over 2,000 safe dives. What have you done with your life?
Def a planned evil
And getting the WEF partner on there?
Karl running own unlicensed sub
Can you please let us hear the testimony instead pf the annoying female voice
Stubbornton cRush 🤷🏼♂️
why all this talk abound it? move on. it is clear what happened for a loong time.
Why is this getting SO much attention? 🤨 is the diddy trial going to be recorded like these hearings are?
Pfft
This person is a at a federal hearing WEARING A T-SHIRT?????? Are you joking?
imagine caring about what cloth someone puts on their body
@ArakkAttack when someone points out an obvious problem and you blame the guy, that's basically what Stockton did all the time.😂
Arrogance
He was a Democrat, so that right there shows he was not wrapped too tight.
Stockton Rush was exclusively a Republican donor, consistently, over a long period of time.... lol. lmao.
This has nothing to do with politics.
@@nb6175 he supported DEI. He was Californian.
Shut up.
@@NalaRichenbach100% has to do with politics, we know democrats are all feelings no logic
So it makes sense he was a democrat
The editing on this video could be better. His interview sounds so quiet, and then it is interrupted regularly by the woman screaming the details. Lower her volume so the overall video is more consistent in volume. That will make it easier and more enjoyable to watch.