I use a separate controller, an Aquacomputer Octo with Aquasuite on custom loop. the water temp sensor is attached to it so, even if Aquasuite service is terminated, the controller still works standalone in hardware mode (corsair commander pro does it too). WAY more customizeable than iCUE i used before, and Aquasuite doesn't heat up the water like running iCUE did :). I am not aware of a more customizeable cooling controller software. It's a tinkerer's paradise, try it! :p
I control CPU and pump through the bios and the GPU over MSI AB. However I control the case fans with Argus Monitor which let's you control the fans depending on the GPU temp and it's a real game changer. When the GPU warms up the case fans ramp up in order to provide more air.
This is why I like this channel it talks about things that most youtube tech channels assume you already know, But is extremely helpful for the new people
That's because this guy is low level knowledge himself. This is an ok channel for beginners, the other channels are for people who actually know a bit more than that. The problem with Greg is he looks down on just about everyone and thinks he knows everything. I've heard horror stories from many of the more well known tech tubers about this guy. It makes sense why non of them really pay him any attention.
@@rebeccateachworth2455 low level of knowledge ...ok give me any evidance that proves that.. anything at all ..otherwise youre just trying to look like smart guy
@@rebeccateachworth2455 Isn't Greg a licensed engineer? I've watched quite a few of his videos (among several other channels) and have never encountered anything like what you're describing.
General rule of thumb: the first node should be the maximum speed of your fans that’s silent (for me it was 40% speed for cpu fan and 50% speed for case fans). The temperature should correspond to a temperature that is 5 degrees C higher than your room temp. For example, I have my cpu fan set at 40% from 0 to 35 degree C as first node before ramping up. The the second node should be your “usual load” fan speed. For me i set it at 70% at 60C. The final node is your emergency anti-throttling fan speed. You need to set the fans at full speed at 15 to 20 degrees below your cpu’s throttling temperature to be safe. I set it at 100% speed at 75 degree C. Case fans generally should follow cpu fan mapping. But it’s also a good idea to set their speed up slightly higher (ramping up earlier) than your cpu fan to ensure cpu fan gets fed fresh cool air all the time.
2 years in the future and I'm adjusting my fan curve and this was the most eloquent yet simple explanation of the process I've seen. I'm on my first pc and I'm forever grateful.
I use flat fan steps as a constant speed is less noticeable. The ramping up and down is more annoying more then the sound itself. Start by moving all points to top right at 100% then drag the first/lowest temp one down to work out what pwm% = fan speed. I like 800rpm idle and 1200rpm gaming but adjust as needed. Then set first temp marker at top end of “idle temp”, i use 45’C/800rpm so anything under 45’ is at this fixed speed of 800rpm. Then next is gaming load area. Mine is set to 46’C to 65’C as a flat line holding at 1200rpm. Set per your system needs. Then depending on points left you can ramp up as needed above this. But during normal gaming loads the fans should stay constant. Then last set a warning temp and fans to 100%. I use 80’C with a little ramp up prior. You will hear this and know something isnt right temp wise and it will blast cool air in to help. If set right your pc will be very quiet at idle and watching movies but also Cool and at a constant volume during games.
Nice. Just made a 5600G build. I have all but the rear fan hooked to the CPU header. I want the rear fan at full power always and now I’m gonna set the curve for the rest. I want positive pressure inside my case. 2x120mm and 2x140mm even at low rpm should still be more cfm than than 1 120 at full speed. Thanks, Greg. You have taught me so much.
Worth mentioning if you're using 4 pin (PWM) fans, ensure PWM is selected in the top right (as seen in the video), if using 3 pin (Voltage control) fans, ensure "DC" or "Voltage" is selected in the top right toggle. If you have PWM selected and use 3 pin fans for example, it won't apply the curve.
great point. my fractal case has its own pwm power header, with room for the CPU fan and 2 other fans. right now, I only have 2 pwm fans that I used for exhaust, the others are 3 pin fans.
if i have some fans using 3 pin and others using 4 should i set each one independently from one another ? my 2 fans in front in instance are 3 pin, but the cpu cooler one and the top and rear one are 4 pin
This actually is the FIRST video I have seen on the internet that specifically addresses this issue and IT IS SO IMPORTANT! THANK YOU for making this video! I have been on the internet since 1988 and this is the FIRST video to take about this in-depth. no joke!
Personally, I find myself to be more sensitive to changes in fan noise than the noise itself. Hearing the fan repeatedly ramp up and down is far more intrusive to me than a constant white noise. So I set my curve with only 2 points. First, I experiment to find the fastest speed in which I can run the fans before they become annoying (55% for my QL120s). I then set the BIOS to maintain this speed up to the highest temp my CPU will hit during everyday use (say the 65C I see while gaming). Then I set the fans to 100% at 80C. The "curve" is therefore whatever slope that connects these two points. This slope may seem steep, but the whole idea is that during normal use you will never hit the slope to begin with. I'm doing this with a 360mm AIO so perhaps it won't work in a system with less headroom, but in my personal case at least, doing this ensures that outside of stress tests my fans pretty much never ramp up. Hope this helps
i recently got a amd cpu and fan speed was spiking all over the place whenever i did anything, i got pissed off really fast to the point i made the fans go at a fixed speed
This has to be the best video I have seen on fans! I have been watching u for years now and did not see this video! Glad I have now tho thankyou for ur help
I've also seen little manual fan controllers, where you can twist a nob like volume control to set the speed you want. These patch in between the fan and the board, and the nob is placed by the pcie slots.
Thank you so much! I bought an AIO thinking it would be better than normal air cooler. It was, in regards to the temperatures, but the fan curves were set too aggressively and it was too loud. I did what you explained in the video, and now it's much better. Thank you again.
I use Argus monitor. It can controll every pwm fan in regards to ANY sensor, or a combination of several sensors instantly or on an average temperature over a given time that you can define. It's really configurable, and it is resource friendly. It's really cheap, and you can skin it if you want to. You can also add your own sensors and fan controllers using arduino as they provide the communication protocols, and you can interface this with nzxt, corsair ect.. controllers. I just love it, it's the best piece of software i ever bought!
I usually select silent, then manually tweak the 100% down to about 65 degrees, because if it's getting that warm I'm either gaming, or doing something CPU intensive... I'll also put in a 2 or 3 second delay as well so it doesn't ramp them up for a small spike in temperature.
hello good sir, how did you set up a delay? is it possible to do that on GPU, i play a game that gets my GPU just warm enough to turn on the fans then turn right back off and it makes this horrible sound. is it possible to make it so if the fans come on they stay on for atleast 30 seconds or something?
@@nuknuk128 In MSI afterburner this is called Hysteresis. And you select how many degrees of temperature above your target you want the fan to stay on for. For example my GPU has a hysteresis of 3 degrees, so when I pause a game, it will stay at the speed set for three seconds even though the GPU has already dropped in temp. I've never found a way to make this work in reverse. I also dislike the fans going from 0 to 100 very quickly, but it's probably a good idea to let the fans speed up quick so as not to overheat the die.
@@nuknuk128 I'm talking about the CPU and case fans, the delay is in the BIOS with the fan temperature settings. I don't know if all MB's offer this. As stated by John below, what you are wanting to do can most likely be done in afterburner, I know you can set your own curve which I do similarly to the CPU.
For the aio pump it is highly recommended to leave it at 100%, as changes may have to deal with the water mass in movement and "force" on the impeller when going from a lower speed to full speed again.
Thank you very much Greg I havent notice anything however dosent hurt to wait your great at what you do so thank you again your great and amazing and hope your family and friends are well and safe I have so much respect for you and I lov u for what you do thank you very much again I appreciate for what you have contained in this video thank you ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️
I have used bios uefi to control fan curves. I have an air flow focused case, the cooler master nr 400. I have aftermarket fans and tower cooler. I have found that by closely matching the curve of the intake and outtake fans with the RPM curve of the tower cooler lowers the temperature of the case and CPU by 3°C I Both the case fans and the tower cooler curve adjustment are set to the CPU temperature.
Thanks a lot. It's my first time building a PC and my CPU hit temps as high as 112C. I've set my fans and CPU cooler to 100% once the CPU hits 60C and my temps are 70-80C during gaming.
I agree with Greg. Use BIOS settings and avoid extra software whenever possible. I tried using some ASRock software to adjust my fans from Windows, but it would often glitch out. BIOS seemed most reliable. My voltage/DC fans will go as low as 20% duty. I'm often surprised to hear how much people discredit DC fans (some even implying DC fans have *no adjustment*), but I've never had much for issues.
DC fans have almost no torque at low speeds, so they can sometimes stop or fail to start entirely if set a bit too slow. That's why some aftermarket controllers have a "kickstart" function just for DC fans, to spin them faster at startup. Also, using DC fans heats up the headers controllers chips a lot because they drop voltage. with PWM they stay dead cold. more chances of failure (owners of Corsair Commander pros killed by running DC fans will know about it).
okay. lmfao. ive been searching on random frank p's channel, techsource's channel, and jayztwocent's and i couldnt find a single bit about the super duper cheap windows key, which is hysterical. ended up going to google search, and some random digital journal and buying a windows key for around 35 bucks, which isnt bad still considering the common price you seem to find pretty much anywhere else. all the while i was doing this i had this video open on a different tab i wasnt paying attention to so i could work on getting my new gaming rig fully set up and good to go. spent a solid 20 minutes searching. i didnt go to this video because i was busy searching on a different tab. all the while this video was sitting right here, yelling at my deaf-ass-self to go to this youtube tab and find what i didnt find. im lightly amused at myself. good day.
I use the BIOS settings to keep my pc under ambient noise unless i do intensive tasks. Its set to the lowest (400)RPM all the way up until 55°C. Then it makes a jump to around a 1000RPM just by going to 60°C, because i found it never goes over 55 on daily tasks, and is always above 60 while gaming. It requires a lot of tweaking but was worth it for me. That is the ideal setting for my silence focused setup rocking a BeQuiet gold PSU & arcic P12 on case & CPU.
I genuinely enjoy the entirety of your Channel. Can I ask one small favor please? If you reference a previous video, please link it in the description below. Please and thank you.
How much rpm fans should spin while idle? My PC has 4 case fans that always spin at 1200 rpm while idling in bios I don't know if it's normal speed but for me it's noisy and I can't change it...
Hey Greg! I have that same Asus Bios, I wonder why the exhaust fan (chasis) is not kicking in(on) not even when I'm playing games.Does it should start as soon I turn on the PC ? I will appreciate help.
Good info dude! I'm running 24/7 100% CPU doing art stuff.... so now I just keep mine at 100% ALL THE TIME! But my BeQuiet case on the desk is still quiet, and my Torrent is pushing out LOTS of air a few feet away... in fact, feeding filtered air onto the BeQuiet. And I rigged a 24" fan with a HEPA filter to blow filtered air onto my computers. LOL.
Thanks for this video helped heaps my fans where stuck at 125000 rpm for this entire year just found this video gave it ago and now it’s fixed but see the issue was I didn’t know what to search to fix it so I just typed fan tachometer high rpm fix and now it’s from 125000 to 1683
I have an mATX in an mATX case. mATX is the best in-between that provides the cheapest cost at most times, some expandability (like the ATX) and smaller form factor as ATX and EATX.
Can you suggest an affordable fan kit that will not require me to wrangle an octopus behind my case? My fans are using sata power and i cant control them at all. Shopping for fans is such a pain.
Great video, I try to fix the speed in the bios, it accepts it but every time I'm moving I open an app or use the browser it accelerates for a while and stops, what could it be? It doesn't follow the bios
I always oversize my cooling system so I can keep fans low and keep PC extremely quiet. I know it costs a bit more but I really like a quiet PC. Always try to use big fans at low speed. For example for an office PC I built, I used a darkrock4 cpu cooler on a 65Watt TDP CPU (AMD 5600g). That cooler is ridiculously oversized for that cpu. Honestly that cpu never gets more than 17 degrees Celsius above room temperature, even at full load, with fans hardly audible. Big case fans at low speed too. I enjoy the challenge of builds focused as close to silent as possible. You can use decibel meter like Spectroid (for Android phones) to help with noise measurement experiments whilst you are finding optimal settings.
Hello sir, I have an asus x670e e gaming motherboard and an asus lc ii 360 liquid cooler. The liquid cooling fans are connected to the CPU opt socket and the pump is connected to the Aio pump socket. Aio Pump is in full speed mode in the bios, but when I go to the desktop, it does not appear to be running at full speed in the Armor Create program. It seems to vary depending on the temperature values of the processor, but did I do everything correctly in full speed mode in the bios setting? Please write me an answer.
Why is my AIO pump working with all my fans ?? As soon as i put it in 100% my fans go to max rpm... Its the only setting that "does" anything to my pc. The Cpu fan, chassi fan 1,2...5 does nothing. Did i plug anything wrong ? Thanks for the help
Hey Greg, If you manage to find some time, would you mind making a video on how to build a pc and set it up completely to a state where it's ready to play games and stuff.... since you're always informative and you explain everything clearly, it'd be a huge help :)
Is there any way to lock my Msi rx6800 x trio fans to around 800-1000 rpm, I’ve tried but afterburner and adrenaline won’t allow me to run fans lower then 20%, I want the fan stop to kick in at 35c but it’s locked to 50c so the fans turn on n off every 5-10 minutes or so which is frustrating and not good for the fans apparently
Honestly I found the fan control in the Asus Bios to be extremely lackluster, it just doesn't seem to work out for me. I use the L Connect software for my Lian Li Unifans, its gotta be there for the RGB anyways, might as well make use of it's very effective fan curve control. And I have no issue with it, the fan curve is always applied whether I close the software or not and the curve is so much more accurate than the Asus Bios to set. My Intake fans idle at 1300 Rpm and exhaust is set to the minimum of 900 Rpm, this theoretically keeps the case positively charged with airflow to prevent vacuuming in dust.
i want to ask my motherboard has only 2 fan headers (cpu+chasis) and i have 3 front fans that are linked directly to the PSU through a molex fan splitter and my 3 front fans are 3 pins and at the end of the molex splitter there is a 4 pin header that i think is supposedly goes into an additional fan header on the mobo for controlling the speeds of the 3 front fans? as my question is how to control them since they don't show on the bios.
Ok I have a question. great video. My fans are ok, everything is in iddle pretty quit. But it ramps up to quick, meaning that in idlle every 30 sec or so it ramps up for a sec or 2. I think that's annoying. Is it possible to give the fans a delay in the reaction time to avoid that?
When I select "manual" in qfan I am unable to set the speed below 50 or 60% full disclosure I am using an AIO (arctic freezer ii) with the pump on one header and the rad fans on a different header. (cpu fan and chassis fan 1) I'm trying to set my pump speed low, because it's loud as all get out, and compensate with slightly higher fans since. I have a big rad. how can I get the cpu fan speed down lower.
I have a corsair hydro h100x water cooler and its rpm is between 600 and 1700 but I currently have it running at 4000rpm all the time and also when it is idl and the bios adjusts the curve but still the cpu fan runs at 4000rpm and everything else seems normal. What could be causing this and how can I fix this?
Of the 4 system fans I'm running, bios and MSI Center only show one system fan. For the fan that is showing, it runs at 100% all the time, no matter what settings I use in bios or in MSI Center. Any ideas what may be the cause of these issues? My motherboard is a MSI B650 Tomahawk. The 3 fans not recognized are Lian Li AL120 Uni fans, connected to the mb's 'SYS_FAN2" slot. The recognized fan is a DeepCool FC120, connected to the mb's 'SYS_FAN4' slot. Thanks for any help!
Some people think that your fans should be running at 100% RPM all the time, but I've always thought that was silly. Like, you don't need to have your fans running at 100% RPM if you're browsing the internet or whatever. Plus, from an engineering perspective, fans are moving parts. The more strain you put on them (like running at 100% speed 24/7) is just going to shorten the life of the motor or AIO pump. Thanks for making this.
My pc has some 3 pins case fans that aren't adjustable. Would buying a controller or an Y adapter fix the problem and make them adjustable? It sucks to hear the pc at "idle" mode.
Hey greg I was wondering if there’s a way to control aio pump speed if there’s no aio pump header on the motherboard? ( I have it plugged into the cpu header)
I have a corsair airflow. But the fans always at startup are at the maximum speed no matter what. Have to pass like 3 minutes of max speed and then the fans just stay as configured in the bios. I need a software to configure fan speed inside windows.
It won't allow me to apply a new rpm fan speed to the cpu fan. All the others it allows me to apply but for the cpu fan it won't allow me to apply. I want to turn it down cause it's running very high. How can I get this to work?
Cool Video ! I have ben Into Computers(Enthusiast) for Years & ive had my own Business of Electronics Repair For as long as i can Remember & i Saw First Hand What Heat will Do ! Heat Is Electronics #1 Enemy & it will Kill Them Quicker Than Any Thing So The Cooler You Can Keep Them The Better They Will Run & The Longer They Will Last No Mater What Any One Says I
I got fans I can't connect to my mainboard (they are only connected to my PSU) they constantly run on full speed and I can't change it. Is there any way to fix it?
Thank you this helped so much! My pc has the exact bios so it was so easily to follow. My husband who built my computer won’t help me change the fan speed and it’s driving me nuts so I did it myself 🎉🤣
I have a question. I just bought a new aftermarket gpu, haven't recieved it yet, it's MSI, I went on their site for drivers and it said go to amd website. So I'll be using amd software suite for an MSI card? Does that not defeat the purpose of an aftermarket card with different clock speeds and such? Or is that stuff locked into the card and the amd program is just to literally get it working on the pc?
I doubt you'll see this. I understand you're busy but I'm a new Ryzen owner and not use to how toasty the R9 5950x is. I have a Noctua Dh15 what curve should I use?
Hi, I have a question but it's not about my CPU fan, it's all about my Gpu fan which is GTX 1650 Ex deluxe edition with ddr6 4Gb 8pin by colorful. I just noticed that fan keeps spinning even in idle. I did try to control using its program but unfortunately still doesn't work. I tried also in the nvidia experience, manual tunning but the lowest number is 26%, is this normal for this GPU? TIA
Hi! I'm attempting to do this for the exact opposite reason, my PC's fan curve is very low, and I'd like to raise it. However, in the BIOS, i don't have the Qfan tab, and the chassis fan isn't even detected
I just built my pc yesterday. My PC has the fan speeds at the highest rpm. I cannot control it from the bios nor the NZXT cam software as well as the msi after burner. I am at a loss and its really bugging me not to mention it is really loud. May you please help me with my issue?
I’m stuck with my fan says it’s disabled, I then enable it, it says enabled, and then it disables after reboot , I got a new battery nothing is working, I have Asus TUF Gaming B550-PLUS
Curious! Do you control CPU and system fan curves with your BIOS/UEFI or third-party software? If the latter, which one specifically?
I use bios for system fan curve. GPU curve is set by afterburner
I use a separate controller, an Aquacomputer Octo with Aquasuite on custom loop. the water temp sensor is attached to it so, even if Aquasuite service is terminated, the controller still works standalone in hardware mode (corsair commander pro does it too).
WAY more customizeable than iCUE i used before, and Aquasuite doesn't heat up the water like running iCUE did :). I am not aware of a more customizeable cooling controller software. It's a tinkerer's paradise, try it! :p
I control CPU and pump through the bios and the GPU over MSI AB. However I control the case fans with Argus Monitor which let's you control the fans depending on the GPU temp and it's a real game changer. When the GPU warms up the case fans ramp up in order to provide more air.
@@1051F Worth every penny spent. Tons of features and zero issues.
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This is why I like this channel it talks about things that most youtube tech channels assume you already know, But is extremely helpful for the new people
That's because this guy is low level knowledge himself. This is an ok channel for beginners, the other channels are for people who actually know a bit more than that. The problem with Greg is he looks down on just about everyone and thinks he knows everything. I've heard horror stories from many of the more well known tech tubers about this guy. It makes sense why non of them really pay him any attention.
That's very true. Even though I know a lot about this stuff, I still watch them. You might still learn, plus Greg is just a cool dude overall.
@@rebeccateachworth2455 low level of knowledge ...ok give me any evidance that proves that.. anything at all ..otherwise youre just trying to look like smart guy
@@BrownStain_Silver i think youve mentioned wrong person ?
@@rebeccateachworth2455 Isn't Greg a licensed engineer? I've watched quite a few of his videos (among several other channels) and have never encountered anything like what you're describing.
General rule of thumb: the first node should be the maximum speed of your fans that’s silent (for me it was 40% speed for cpu fan and 50% speed for case fans). The temperature should correspond to a temperature that is 5 degrees C higher than your room temp. For example, I have my cpu fan set at 40% from 0 to 35 degree C as first node before ramping up. The the second node should be your “usual load” fan speed. For me i set it at 70% at 60C. The final node is your emergency anti-throttling fan speed. You need to set the fans at full speed at 15 to 20 degrees below your cpu’s throttling temperature to be safe. I set it at 100% speed at 75 degree C.
Case fans generally should follow cpu fan mapping. But it’s also a good idea to set their speed up slightly higher (ramping up earlier) than your cpu fan to ensure cpu fan gets fed fresh cool air all the time.
followed your advice . and i shaved 5 celsius off my temp 😭. thanks
70% at 60C… EW 🤢
thank you sooooo much 🫶
@@Azzy_Mazzy stfu kiddo boO! 👻👻
2 years in the future and I'm adjusting my fan curve and this was the most eloquent yet simple explanation of the process I've seen. I'm on my first pc and I'm forever grateful.
Oh man! I was totally wondering about this recently, great timing!
I can’t tell you how your videos have saved me from headaches and money. Keep doing what you’re doing. Oh yeah, move to Massachusetts lol
It’s like you read my mind sometimes with the videos you make! Great one!
I use flat fan steps as a constant speed is less noticeable. The ramping up and down is more annoying more then the sound itself.
Start by moving all points to top right at 100% then drag the first/lowest temp one down to work out what pwm% = fan speed. I like 800rpm idle and 1200rpm gaming but adjust as needed.
Then set first temp marker at top end of “idle temp”, i use 45’C/800rpm so anything under 45’ is at this fixed speed of 800rpm.
Then next is gaming load area. Mine is set to 46’C to 65’C as a flat line holding at 1200rpm. Set per your system needs.
Then depending on points left you can ramp up as needed above this. But during normal gaming loads the fans should stay constant.
Then last set a warning temp and fans to 100%. I use 80’C with a little ramp up prior. You will hear this and know something isnt right temp wise and it will blast cool air in to help.
If set right your pc will be very quiet at idle and watching movies but also Cool and at a constant volume during games.
Nice. Just made a 5600G build. I have all but the rear fan hooked to the CPU header. I want the rear fan at full power always and now I’m gonna set the curve for the rest.
I want positive pressure inside my case. 2x120mm and 2x140mm even at low rpm should still be more cfm than than 1 120 at full speed.
Thanks, Greg. You have taught me so much.
Thanks for the help! My CPU fan was running like an helicopter even after tuning it in the BIOS, but now it's way better
Good guide Greg. There are many ways to set up fans, yours is a very simple and effective method pretty much the same as I've been doing for years.
Worth mentioning if you're using 4 pin (PWM) fans, ensure PWM is selected in the top right (as seen in the video), if using 3 pin (Voltage control) fans, ensure "DC" or "Voltage" is selected in the top right toggle. If you have PWM selected and use 3 pin fans for example, it won't apply the curve.
great point. my fractal case has its own pwm power header, with room for the CPU fan and 2 other fans. right now, I only have 2 pwm fans that I used for exhaust, the others are 3 pin fans.
if i have some fans using 3 pin and others using 4 should i set each one independently from one another ? my 2 fans in front in instance are 3 pin, but the cpu cooler one and the top and rear one are 4 pin
You da man cprwhite, added an extra fan to the back and it went to the moon
This actually is the FIRST video I have seen on the internet that specifically addresses this issue and IT IS SO IMPORTANT! THANK YOU for making this video! I have been on the internet since 1988 and this is the FIRST video to take about this in-depth. no joke!
Thanks Greg, This video is perfect, I was always curious on how to set up the most reasonable fan speed to temperature graph in the BIOS.
Personally, I find myself to be more sensitive to changes in fan noise than the noise itself. Hearing the fan repeatedly ramp up and down is far more intrusive to me than a constant white noise. So I set my curve with only 2 points. First, I experiment to find the fastest speed in which I can run the fans before they become annoying (55% for my QL120s). I then set the BIOS to maintain this speed up to the highest temp my CPU will hit during everyday use (say the 65C I see while gaming). Then I set the fans to 100% at 80C. The "curve" is therefore whatever slope that connects these two points. This slope may seem steep, but the whole idea is that during normal use you will never hit the slope to begin with.
I'm doing this with a 360mm AIO so perhaps it won't work in a system with less headroom, but in my personal case at least, doing this ensures that outside of stress tests my fans pretty much never ramp up. Hope this helps
Same..
i recently got a amd cpu and fan speed was spiking all over the place whenever i did anything, i got pissed off really fast to the point i made the fans go at a fixed speed
Damn this is a great comment, I'm going to have a go at this and see how it goes, thanks for the insight...
@@chrisnoble7765 Glad you found it useful!
Exactly. My pc is quite noisy even at idle, but it doesn't really bother me since they pretty much never ramp up or down.
This has to be the best video I have seen on fans! I have been watching u for years now and did not see this video! Glad I have now tho thankyou for ur help
Glad you enjoyed it!
Super helpful. I installed new fans and never thought about this. It’s always so loud
Thanks a bunch man! Gave me some confidence to start my fan speed settings adventures.
Thank you for this video! Not enough techtubers cover this topic.
I've also seen little manual fan controllers, where you can twist a nob like volume control to set the speed you want. These patch in between the fan and the board, and the nob is placed by the pcie slots.
love ur videos I even like ur fix or flop series, ur the only person I've come across that does pc videos.
Its amazing how u put out this video, the day I made my first PC haha great timing!!
Thank you so much! I bought an AIO thinking it would be better than normal air cooler. It was, in regards to the temperatures, but the fan curves were set too aggressively and it was too loud. I did what you explained in the video, and now it's much better. Thank you again.
Glad I could help!
I use Argus monitor.
It can controll every pwm fan in regards to ANY sensor, or a combination of several sensors instantly or on an average temperature over a given time that you can define.
It's really configurable, and it is resource friendly.
It's really cheap, and you can skin it if you want to.
You can also add your own sensors and fan controllers using arduino as they provide the communication protocols, and you can interface this with nzxt, corsair ect.. controllers.
I just love it, it's the best piece of software i ever bought!
absolutely. I think Argus is so undervalued/unknown. Best thing there is.
I got a Windows 10 pro key for 15 bucks Canadian! So glad I watched this video!
GREG STOP STALKING MY HISTORY, LAST WEEK YOU MADE A VIDEO OF SOMETHING I JUST WAS LOOKING UP/DOING AND NOW ANOTHER ONE! YOU SCARING ME
I just need to adjust one single fan that is at 100% but can't figure out how to change it I tried the I cue and it did nothing
I usually select silent, then manually tweak the 100% down to about 65 degrees, because if it's getting that warm I'm either gaming, or doing something CPU intensive... I'll also put in a 2 or 3 second delay as well so it doesn't ramp them up for a small spike in temperature.
hello good sir, how did you set up a delay? is it possible to do that on GPU, i play a game that gets my GPU just warm enough to turn on the fans then turn right back off and it makes this horrible sound. is it possible to make it so if the fans come on they stay on for atleast 30 seconds or something?
@@nuknuk128 In MSI afterburner this is called Hysteresis. And you select how many degrees of temperature above your target you want the fan to stay on for.
For example my GPU has a hysteresis of 3 degrees, so when I pause a game, it will stay at the speed set for three seconds even though the GPU has already dropped in temp. I've never found a way to make this work in reverse. I also dislike the fans going from 0 to 100 very quickly, but it's probably a good idea to let the fans speed up quick so as not to overheat the die.
@@nuknuk128 I'm talking about the CPU and case fans, the delay is in the BIOS with the fan temperature settings. I don't know if all MB's offer this. As stated by John below, what you are wanting to do can most likely be done in afterburner, I know you can set your own curve which I do similarly to the CPU.
@@yonson_racing did you find the program? Want to do it too..
@@destiycs2 It's not a program, you need to look in your Motherboards BIOS and see if it's there under the fan control settings.
you couldn't have timed this better. my fans are going crazy for some reason
Best ever tutorial one can have our of a tech channel..... Nice work 👍
For the aio pump it is highly recommended to leave it at 100%, as changes may have to deal with the water mass in movement and "force" on the impeller when going from a lower speed to full speed again.
Thank you very much Greg I havent notice anything however dosent hurt to wait your great at what you do so thank you again your great and amazing and hope your family and friends are well and safe I have so much respect for you and I lov u for what you do thank you very much again I appreciate for what you have contained in this video thank you ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️
I very much appreciate the encouraging words!
I have used bios uefi to control fan curves. I have an air flow focused case, the cooler master nr 400. I have aftermarket fans and tower cooler. I have found that by closely matching the curve of the intake and outtake fans with the RPM curve of the tower cooler lowers the temperature of the case and CPU by 3°C I Both the case fans and the tower cooler curve adjustment are set to the CPU temperature.
Thanks a lot. It's my first time building a PC and my CPU hit temps as high as 112C. I've set my fans and CPU cooler to 100% once the CPU hits 60C and my temps are 70-80C during gaming.
It's an improvement, but still rather hot. What is your setup? You might need more cool airflow throughout the case.
I agree with Greg. Use BIOS settings and avoid extra software whenever possible. I tried using some ASRock software to adjust my fans from Windows, but it would often glitch out. BIOS seemed most reliable.
My voltage/DC fans will go as low as 20% duty. I'm often surprised to hear how much people discredit DC fans (some even implying DC fans have *no adjustment*), but I've never had much for issues.
DC fans have almost no torque at low speeds, so they can sometimes stop or fail to start entirely if set a bit too slow. That's why some aftermarket controllers have a "kickstart" function just for DC fans, to spin them faster at startup.
Also, using DC fans heats up the headers controllers chips a lot because they drop voltage. with PWM they stay dead cold. more chances of failure (owners of Corsair Commander pros killed by running DC fans will know about it).
what if my trash motherboard dont have fan speed controll ?
Get a fan controller
will it still work if i have my fans going to a controller not my mobo?
thank you. this helped my pc from sounding like a jet plane while playing games :)
This is quality content. Thank you for explaining this
okay. lmfao. ive been searching on random frank p's channel, techsource's channel, and jayztwocent's and i couldnt find a single bit about the super duper cheap windows key, which is hysterical. ended up going to google search, and some random digital journal and buying a windows key for around 35 bucks, which isnt bad still considering the common price you seem to find pretty much anywhere else. all the while i was doing this i had this video open on a different tab i wasnt paying attention to so i could work on getting my new gaming rig fully set up and good to go. spent a solid 20 minutes searching. i didnt go to this video because i was busy searching on a different tab. all the while this video was sitting right here, yelling at my deaf-ass-self to go to this youtube tab and find what i didnt find. im lightly amused at myself. good day.
But what do you do with PWM pumps or AIOs where the fans and the pump are connected so only one cable running out of it
that dosent sound good for the fans cause my pump runs at a higher rpm like 4000 rpm compared to 1800rpm fans that cools the radiator
Question I don’t have a delete key well I can’t find one what else can you use
I use the BIOS settings to keep my pc under ambient noise unless i do intensive tasks. Its set to the lowest (400)RPM all the way up until 55°C. Then it makes a jump to around a 1000RPM just by going to 60°C, because i found it never goes over 55 on daily tasks, and is always above 60 while gaming. It requires a lot of tweaking but was worth it for me. That is the ideal setting for my silence focused setup rocking a BeQuiet gold PSU & arcic P12 on case & CPU.
This video didn't really affect me as i don't mind fans running loud but i do appreciate the in-depth analysis and instructions, so well done GS.
I genuinely enjoy the entirety of your Channel. Can I ask one small favor please? If you reference a previous video, please link it in the description below. Please and thank you.
This is first thing what i did with my first build.. Thank you
How much rpm fans should spin while idle? My PC has 4 case fans that always spin at 1200 rpm while idling in bios I don't know if it's normal speed but for me it's noisy and I can't change it...
Step up and step down are super useful features too if you hate the constant changing in fan speeds.
This is the part I struggle to understand. What do you usually do for the step up/down?
This was GREAT! It helped me a lot.
Hey Greg! I have that same Asus Bios, I wonder why the exhaust fan (chasis) is not kicking in(on) not even when I'm playing games.Does it should start as soon I turn on the PC ? I will appreciate help.
I not sure what kind of configuration I will have to make to turn it on
Good info dude!
I'm running 24/7 100% CPU doing art stuff.... so now I just keep mine at 100% ALL THE TIME! But my BeQuiet case on the desk is still quiet, and my Torrent is pushing out LOTS of air a few feet away... in fact, feeding filtered air onto the BeQuiet. And I rigged a 24" fan with a HEPA filter to blow filtered air onto my computers. LOL.
Thanks for this video helped heaps my fans where stuck at 125000 rpm for this entire year just found this video gave it ago and now it’s fixed but see the issue was I didn’t know what to search to fix it so I just typed fan tachometer high rpm fix and now it’s from 125000 to 1683
Itx Vs mATX Vs ATX Vs eatx. Which do u have? I have mATX in an ATX case, see a vertical gpu
I have an mATX in an mATX case. mATX is the best in-between that provides the cheapest cost at most times, some expandability (like the ATX) and smaller form factor as ATX and EATX.
Can you suggest an affordable fan kit that will not require me to wrangle an octopus behind my case?
My fans are using sata power and i cant control them at all. Shopping for fans is such a pain.
This was super helpful. I just bought a prebuilt and the case fans at the front were running at max while idle, which was super annoying.
Didn't know about AIO pump curve idea of 100% or just under. Love the idea
Great video, I try to fix the speed in the bios, it accepts it but every time I'm moving I open an app or use the browser it accelerates for a while and stops, what could it be? It doesn't follow the bios
I always oversize my cooling system so I can keep fans low and keep PC extremely quiet. I know it costs a bit more but I really like a quiet PC. Always try to use big fans at low speed. For example for an office PC I built, I used a darkrock4 cpu cooler on a 65Watt TDP CPU (AMD 5600g). That cooler is ridiculously oversized for that cpu. Honestly that cpu never gets more than 17 degrees Celsius above room temperature, even at full load, with fans hardly audible. Big case fans at low speed too. I enjoy the challenge of builds focused as close to silent as possible. You can use decibel meter like Spectroid (for Android phones) to help with noise measurement experiments whilst you are finding optimal settings.
Hello sir, I have an asus x670e e gaming motherboard and an asus lc ii 360 liquid cooler. The liquid cooling fans are connected to the CPU opt socket and the pump is connected to the Aio pump socket. Aio Pump is in full speed mode in the bios, but when I go to the desktop, it does not appear to be running at full speed in the Armor Create program. It seems to vary depending on the temperature values of the processor, but did I do everything correctly in full speed mode in the bios setting? Please write me an answer.
My new Corsair 4000D Airflow case come tomorrow so very nice timing on video:)
Why is my AIO pump working with all my fans ??
As soon as i put it in 100% my fans go to max rpm...
Its the only setting that "does" anything to my pc.
The Cpu fan, chassi fan 1,2...5 does nothing.
Did i plug anything wrong ?
Thanks for the help
Hey Greg, If you manage to find some time, would you mind making a video on how to build a pc and set it up completely to a state where it's ready to play games and stuff.... since you're always informative and you explain everything clearly, it'd be a huge help :)
JayzTwoCents made a video regarding that, look for it
Is there any way to lock my Msi rx6800 x trio fans to around 800-1000 rpm, I’ve tried but afterburner and adrenaline won’t allow me to run fans lower then 20%, I want the fan stop to kick in at 35c but it’s locked to 50c so the fans turn on n off every 5-10 minutes or so which is frustrating and not good for the fans apparently
Honestly I found the fan control in the Asus Bios to be extremely lackluster, it just doesn't seem to work out for me. I use the L Connect software for my Lian Li Unifans, its gotta be there for the RGB anyways, might as well make use of it's very effective fan curve control. And I have no issue with it, the fan curve is always applied whether I close the software or not and the curve is so much more accurate than the Asus Bios to set. My Intake fans idle at 1300 Rpm and exhaust is set to the minimum of 900 Rpm, this theoretically keeps the case positively charged with airflow to prevent vacuuming in dust.
i want to ask my motherboard has only 2 fan headers (cpu+chasis) and i have 3 front fans that are linked directly to the PSU through a molex fan splitter and my 3 front fans are 3 pins and at the end of the molex splitter there is a 4 pin header that i think is supposedly goes into an additional fan header on the mobo for controlling the speeds of the 3 front fans? as my question is how to control them since they don't show on the bios.
Can I use a 2 or 3 wire fan, replacement of 4 wire fan originally? on my pc?
Cos I cant find same replacement.
Ok I have a question. great video. My fans are ok, everything is in iddle pretty quit. But it ramps up to quick, meaning that in idlle every 30 sec or so it ramps up for a sec or 2. I think that's annoying. Is it possible to give the fans a delay in the reaction time to avoid that?
When I select "manual" in qfan I am unable to set the speed below 50 or 60%
full disclosure I am using an AIO (arctic freezer ii) with the pump on one header and the rad fans on a different header. (cpu fan and chassis fan 1)
I'm trying to set my pump speed low, because it's loud as all get out, and compensate with slightly higher fans since. I have a big rad.
how can I get the cpu fan speed down lower.
I have a corsair hydro h100x water cooler and its rpm is between 600 and 1700 but I currently have it running at 4000rpm all the time and also when it is idl and the bios adjusts the curve but still the cpu fan runs at 4000rpm and everything else seems normal. What could be causing this and how can I fix this?
im building my first water cooled pc and i have 2 pumps should i get a splitter and have both plugged into my mother board cpu pump header?
been looking for this
Of the 4 system fans I'm running, bios and MSI Center only show one system fan. For the fan that is showing, it runs at 100% all the time, no matter what settings I use in bios or in MSI Center. Any ideas what may be the cause of these issues? My motherboard is a MSI B650 Tomahawk. The 3 fans not recognized are Lian Li AL120 Uni fans, connected to the mb's 'SYS_FAN2" slot. The recognized fan is a DeepCool FC120, connected to the mb's 'SYS_FAN4' slot. Thanks for any help!
Loved this content !
Some people think that your fans should be running at 100% RPM all the time, but I've always thought that was silly. Like, you don't need to have your fans running at 100% RPM if you're browsing the internet or whatever. Plus, from an engineering perspective, fans are moving parts. The more strain you put on them (like running at 100% speed 24/7) is just going to shorten the life of the motor or AIO pump. Thanks for making this.
Very useful especially about the pump, just picked up an arctic 240, first ever CLC. I was always air, thought I'd see what all the fuss is about
Just subscribed love the channel
My pc has some 3 pins case fans that aren't adjustable. Would buying a controller or an Y adapter fix the problem and make them adjustable? It sucks to hear the pc at "idle" mode.
Hey can you do a video of how to fix.
Code error : 0xc000000e
No one on RUclips explains it well or is outdated please!
Hey Greg, quick question, if I set up my fans and pump on the bios, does it conflict with my Corsair icue software? Do I need to uninstall icue?
Hey greg I was wondering if there’s a way to control aio pump speed if there’s no aio pump header on the motherboard? ( I have it plugged into the cpu header)
Why does my 4 pin pwm case fans only controllable via voltage control. I have pwm selected
I have a corsair airflow. But the fans always at startup are at the maximum speed no matter what. Have to pass like 3 minutes of max speed and then the fans just stay as configured in the bios. I need a software to configure fan speed inside windows.
My case fans are running nonstop but can’t be controlled or appear via a controller. I have to have them “ignored” in bios or I get a fan error
It won't allow me to apply a new rpm fan speed to the cpu fan. All the others it allows me to apply but for the cpu fan it won't allow me to apply. I want to turn it down cause it's running very high. How can I get this to work?
Cool Video ! I have ben Into Computers(Enthusiast) for Years & ive had my own Business of Electronics Repair For as long as i can Remember & i Saw First Hand What Heat will Do ! Heat Is Electronics #1 Enemy & it will Kill Them Quicker Than Any Thing So The Cooler You Can Keep Them The Better They Will Run & The Longer They Will Last No Mater What Any One Says I
I got fans I can't connect to my mainboard (they are only connected to my PSU) they constantly run on full speed and I can't change it. Is there any way to fix it?
I don't know why but that bar across the fan @0:29 is bugging the ocd like I'd get pair of tin snips and Dremel to fix it
Thank you this helped so much! My pc has the exact bios so it was so easily to follow. My husband who built my computer won’t help me change the fan speed and it’s driving me nuts so I did it myself 🎉🤣
Glad I could help!
I have a question. I just bought a new aftermarket gpu, haven't recieved it yet, it's MSI, I went on their site for drivers and it said go to amd website. So I'll be using amd software suite for an MSI card? Does that not defeat the purpose of an aftermarket card with different clock speeds and such? Or is that stuff locked into the card and the amd program is just to literally get it working on the pc?
Thank you very much. This video helped a lot.
I doubt you'll see this. I understand you're busy but I'm a new Ryzen owner and not use to how toasty the R9 5950x is. I have a Noctua Dh15 what curve should I use?
Hi, I have a question but it's not about my CPU fan, it's all about my Gpu fan which is GTX 1650 Ex deluxe edition with ddr6 4Gb 8pin by colorful. I just noticed that fan keeps spinning even in idle. I did try to control using its program but unfortunately still doesn't work. I tried also in the nvidia experience, manual tunning but the lowest number is 26%, is this normal for this GPU? TIA
Hi! I'm attempting to do this for the exact opposite reason, my PC's fan curve is very low, and I'd like to raise it. However, in the BIOS, i don't have the Qfan tab, and the chassis fan isn't even detected
The pc I built is a molex connector ? Can control the speed?
I just built my pc yesterday. My PC has the fan speeds at the highest rpm. I cannot control it from the bios nor the NZXT cam software as well as the msi after burner. I am at a loss and its really bugging me not to mention it is really loud. May you please help me with my issue?
I have 14 fans corsiar with commander my fans rmp is high i change to 525 rpm but still all on 620 614 dosent go down why can you help me
Quick question...can i still tweek fan speed when the fans are plugged into a fan hub and not motherbaord?
tried silent mode and manual my fans are still loud would that be a brand issue ?
I’m stuck with my fan says it’s disabled, I then enable it, it says enabled, and then it disables after reboot , I got a new battery nothing is working, I have Asus TUF Gaming B550-PLUS
Could u still do this in bios via a corsair commander core fan hub, hooked to the USB 2.0 header on the board though?
Where can i find the wallpaper he uses on his personal machine?