Ali on Not Being Paid as Pres. of Derrty Ent., Goes Off on People Saying Nelly Put Him On (Part 7)
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In this clip, Ali discusses the evolution of his relationship with rapper Nelly and the St. Lunatics. Ali acknowledges Nelly’s impressive achievements, selling 10 million records and securing a record deal for the group. He recounts the process of writing songs for the group, revealing how Nelly often claimed credit for songs that were written collaboratively. He expressed frustration, highlighting a perceived lack of recognition for his own contributions. Despite tensions arising from disagreements about credit and control, Ali maintains he harbors no resentment, even though their last interactions - exchanges of text messages - suggest a complicated dynamic.
Interview by: Shawn Prez
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This is why you should have everything written in paper to receive credit.
Facts
he signed of 100% of his publishing that why didn't get writing credits.
@@snakeplissken5209 exactly, Nelly was right about something not right about the first contract and now it camback to bite Ali
When Shawn said "Excuse Me?! I don't think you understood my question." That had me rolling. 😂😂
🤣
BRUHHH LMFAOOOOO. 😂
On my soul i jus said what is he tlkn abt he a narcissist be js made it abt him
I respect Shawn Prez for not holding back his opinions and saying what all of us were already thinking. Dope interview.
The bottom line is that Ali was horrible at handling his business. Let this be a lesson to others for what not to do. 🤷🏿♂️
I’ve been saying this since bro started talking. Granted Nelly fucked him over but at the end of the day he shoulda been on top of his business instead of depending on loyalty
He wasn't horrible at handling his business per say. The "Country Grammar" album had to be wrote by Nelly due to the way the publishing deal was structured. He basically gave the rhymes to Nelly so that he fulfills the parameters of the deal. Ali wrote the biggest selling album of his career. A smart man and also being his brother would protect him at all costs and make sure that he is taking care of, so that the success continues and could have paid him on the side. This is what happens when you have a bunch of guys together and none of them came from money. They see green and forget about how they got the money. Nelly and St. Lunatics should have had another album. I love watching these videos because you find out the real of what came into the making of these songs and albums that we all love.
@@joetroxler6487 Ok, so in other words. Ali was bad a handling his business. You can't give your rights to your work away and complain about it later. That's on him. This is a very hard lesson learned, but the good news is that others can learn from his terrible mistakes. A smart man learns from his own mistakes. A wise man learns from the mistakes of others. 🎯💯
This is the downside of putting niggas on or having business relationships with niggas you considered friends. Nelly looked out for dude for 20+ years and he's on Vlad airing out shit niggas not supposed to be hearing. You can't win.
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....shit...if he would of got that publishing off that diamond cd...he would of never needed Nelly after that....he wrote most the cd.
It can be looked at that dude looked out for Nelly to help him get in position for those 20 years as well. They need to have a closed door meeting and iron out some finances.
@@NIGGA4LIFE He's the one that sold off his publishing when he signed that first shitty deal. nelly
He never properly paid him. Just had him on tour. His solo record was basically him for the most part as well. He got screwed if you ask me. Kinda like how Cashmoney did Turk when his album came out
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I like Ali...I was raised by my dad i dont make descions out of emotions..!!! Thats some real stuff!!!
The reason why Ali ain’t get paid publishing from Country Grammer because one he made St. Lunatics sign it away to D2 and two St. Lunatics forced Nelly to pay them out of his budget for there verses on Country Grammer or they were going to take they verses off. If I was the St. Lunatics I would’ve told Nelly instead of paying us upfront for are verses (which that payment was probably a work for hire payment) pay off D2 so we can get our publishing back. They was gone eat on the road from shows, the backend of the publishing and group/individual albums. I guess they thought holding Nelly album up for hostage was good idea 😂
If I’m not mistaken he signed away publishing for music before country grammar. Not country grammar. Nelly wasn’t signed to D2 as a solo artist.
Universal bought tje publishing bck for Nelly from D2 fpr 75k.....The Tics didnt handle their business b4 Country Grammar or their solo projects
He talked about that. Universal brought back Nelly's publishing but once he blew up the company was basically asking for a ridiculous amount of money to sell back the rest of the groups publishing.
@@xDreMack why did they sign the pub away to begin with?
@TheCuttyBrown it was pretty much a standard industry practice back then for artist to sign a portion of their publishing over when they gor their deal. It wasn't until guys like Suge, Master aP, Diddy, Dame Dash came along and started signing distribution deals where they kept their publishing and only used the record labels to distribute their music. The labels countered that by creating the 360 deal where they get a percentage of everything.
Ali was like most struggling artist desperate for money and to get on so he signed a deal not fully understanding what it would mean in the long run.
Him not having his publishing together really came back to bite him. But something is not adding up. Like how could Nelly stop Ali from being involved in a management company that was interested in him? It seems like they were interested in working with Nelly and Ali tried to middle man it. Nelly just signed directly. But if they were interested in working with Ali, how would Nelly be able to stop that since he signed with them? That's a huge company. Nelly is not even the most popular person signed...
Good point but if Nelly could of did that for him why did t he just do it like he said win win for both
AT THE END OF THE DAY THESE "HUGE COMPANIES" ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS AND GIVE 2 SHTS ABOUT ANYONE ... ITS BUSINESS AND THEY WANT THE BIGGEST PIECE OF THE PIE...AND DOESNT MATTER HOW BIG A COMPANY IS... THERE'S ALWAYS PPL MOVIN FUNNY... AND WILLING TO CUT CERTAIN PPL OFF... IF IT MEANS A BIGGER PIECE OF THE PIE ... IT'S NOTHING HARD ABOUT FIGURING THIS SHT OUT...
IT HAPPENS EVERY SINGLE DAY...FROM UR STREET HUSTLER TO THE TOP COMPANIES THAT EXIST...
PEEP GAME N BE ON TOP OF UR BIZ... ONLY WAY YOU'LL SURVIVE IN THIS GAME WE CALL "LIFE"...
BUT AGAIN...JUST ONE GUY'S OPINION
@@ldube6897He probably has his reasons. Clearly if Ali had him sign a bad deal in the past why would he want to go into another deal with him? Ali could still sign with them and introduce other artists st.Louis has plenty of them.
Let this be a lesson to people who have talent and are looking out for the whole team and are to nice if you keep being around people that do you dirty you will end up the one in the background and once someone does you dirty the first time no matter who it is you do not take that disrespect
Y'all both had opportunities, Ali say he wrote all this $hit but fumbles his opportunity for not getting his publishing right. That's the thing I want to hear Ali explain.
Exactly why I don’t feel sorry for him….. How can you be the oldest and the most educated and still allow yourself to be played….. 🤷🏾♂️ I don’t get it…..
He won't. Bruh sound like Turk. He never has a problem. But he always has a problem.
Exactly and if he wrote all Nelly hits why can’t he write some hits for his self or others
@@deesee2051he don’t have the looks charisma Nelly had. Not saying he couldn’t have made the hits and performed them. But that’s human beings most people would take fitness advice from a cut muscular man vs a obese man. They say the same thing but the appearance makes a huge difference. Ali been bald since he was a young man and likely knew to a female fan base Nelly would sell more I mean Nelly 50 years old and still has a great head of hair lol. And no looks and hair ain’t everything but it matters when you tryna sell to women. Hell ll cool j been bald since forever and was still is a top sex symbol but Ali didn’t have the confidence in himself. Ali just needed more confidence in himself back then. He didn’t do his paperwork back then and thought Nelly would pay him accordingly and he didn’t. Sometimes life teaches hard lessons.
@@ceeb107 that’s not how ghost writing works 50 cent was writing songs for puffy before he blew up he know to do the paperwork Ali’s story doesn’t make sense
The man said he got no salary for being president but put out a solo album and he dropped the kenfolk album with big Gipp 😂. Dude is mad cause nelly stopped taking care of him in 2020.
What video did you watch?
Despite The Negative Comments This Brother Speaking Volumes ✊🏿✊🏿 Much Respect
What negative comments?
@@cipriandobrea7369 i being seeing alot of people commenting negative about his interviews. He definitely hurt behind not receiving his just dues and he put in major work
He’s bitter
@@thegreatdel9679i don't see bitter. I see someone that was cut out of somes millions multiple times and was hurt. Now he telling his side on a major platform. Go back and listen to what he is actually saying
@@thegreatdel9679 I couldn't imagine knowing that I wrote/co-wrote 90% of a diamond-plus album and have nothing to show for it. Hindsight is 20/20 but that would hurt and haunt anybody
When Ali was making the decisions and leading the group they signed there publishing away and couldnt pop, when nelly became the front man they blew up worldwide dropped a successful group album AND all got solo deals.
Factz what this nigga crying about
He lyrics got them signed.
@@jaimainelee3609His lyrics didn't help him on his solo project or his album with Gipp. Nor has it helped him in the 15 years since......
@@datoinetate6275so what he wrote a diamond album for Nelly he was just stupid to believe friendship is Trump over money
@sireastside6210 That's not what the credits say. How was he the "leader" with no business sense? And after being cheated he stuck around for 20 years....
6:15 not true, Universal wasnt interestd in the group. The label only gave the others a deal was because Nelly was trying to get them a deal. The agreement was if Nelly first album sold over 250000 copies or more, the group gets a deal and solo deals.
nobody wanted to hear from them niggas.
Facts
Ali has selective memory
How u know tho… don’t tell me “he say she say” cause it seem like you talking factual?
@@lerah8777 that you own opinion
The only inconsistency to me is how come Ali never wrote, produced or worked with any other artists that were above local rapper level (c-list or higher) especially after all this time? Dr. Dre left death row and found new artists to put on, Quentin Miller even found new artists he wrote for and was Grammy nominated, EPMD same thing when they split they found new artists, etc. Nelly denies the claim and Nelly don't strike me as the type to just take credit just because. That's the only problem with Ali.
EXACTLY!!! If he writing all this shit he shoulda been making bread cause the south was poppin!! He coulda at least got Chingy or J-Kwon some more hits
@@danieltanner2198nigga j kwon was.🗑 and the tyranny fucked up Chingy career
I think it's because he stayed loyal to Nelly for too long. By the time he did go his own way his style of rap was done. It's no point in paying Ali for verses when most songs today are 8 bars, a bridge and chorus.
Thank you! If you listen to all of Ali’s music, it’s mid. He was the weakest link on all they songs as far as verses. How come you never wrote hits for yourself? It doesn’t make sense to me 🤦🏽♀️
He claim he wrote all this music yet he couldn’t none of his sole projects off the ground 😂 he needed so much help 🤣
When it comes to helping and supporting others, I often ask myself.... When's enough, enough?
Enough is never enough 😔
He crazy for not taking any writing credits at all. He supposedly read the hip hop hand book and still didn't know how important writing credits were? Even if they didn't have publishing at the time that shit comes back around. But I know they were young and not thinking like that I get it. But of he was the key and he knew it he should of done some things differently. Couldn't nobody get out of pocket cuz he writing everything!!
I concur@@derald614
True indeed...@@robertarthur9890
Everybody wana be Nelly somebody gotta be the st. Lunatics
Everybody wana be 50 cent somebody gotta be g-unit
Everybody wana be quavo somebody gotta be migos
Everybody wana be eazy e somebody gotta be nwa
If mfs jus play they part everybody can eat forever
Bone Thugs and Harmony
DMX Rough Rydaz lOl
ice cube was better than eazy e
@@alxfonso4924that's debatable!! The voice!!!
Remember at the time he died, eazy was bigger than cube!!
Everybody want to be Eminem... Somebody got to be D12
I just heard Nelly whole side of the story let me save y’all some time……Ali was still in that bad publishing deal that they all signed when the record company owned 100% of their publishing in 97 or whatever yr but when country grammar came out Nelly was the only one to buy his publishing back for $75,000 that he didn’t have universal paid for it….so when it came to Ali admitting to writing some of the songs on country grammar he didn’t say anything because of the company he was signed too back in the day still owned 100% of his publishing therefor they would get paid for his part of the publishing on “Country Grammer” so basically he is mad at Nelly because he feels he should basically had paid him under the table….but this the tricky part Ali was in a rush to sign that bad deal back in the day and Nelly signed it last because he was skeptical knowing it was bad business but still signed it but had to buy his way out of it later on down the line….now Ali is coming out saying he wrote it all which may be true but Nelly not denying that he had a part of writing on the album basically Ali is butt hurt I’m sure he made more than enough off Nelly from 03-2018 he just in his feelings because they fell out😂💯
If he wrote half the album then he wasn't living off Nelly, bc that record went diamond. He was owed that.
I believe Ali helped Nelly with the Country Grammar album, but I don't believe he wrote the whole album. Ali the type to help you do something and then want more credit then he should get.
Murphy lee already confirmed this about Ali so what's to believe exactly 😂
Nelly said they all helped with country grammar
@@terraf3257He did not he said they all wrote on that album including Nelly. His interview with vlad ain’t the first interview to mention this either.
I hear Ali say he's the coach, the leader, the teacher, the writer, the beat maker , the concept maker. Too much ego coming across for me. I can see why Nelly would want to get from under that type of person.
Never make decisions outta anger is a gem!!
Bruh said “then he changed the subject” about that 100k he never even got. I would’ve forced that convo to continue wtf 😂
Factz ain’t no changing the subject
If you listen to the very end he tells on himself though “bro you don’t even have to pay me no more they gonna pay me”. Clearly Nelly was paying him for something up until that point.
Facts. I would've been like bro what's up with that 100k lol.
Nah. I seen stuff like this in real time. I have two cousins who are both millionaires.
A lot of people helped them get to where they are now.
Your not going to do anything to make them mad or they just cut you off and everyone chooses the side of the rich person in all situations. I have an uncle who hasn't been to the family reunion in 6 years because 1 wealthy relative
has black balled him and since big mama is gone everyone follows the money.
@OzonebxGaming this is so true. I’ve seen this too. When Big Mama or Grandad dies, the older siblings can blackball any member they don’t like and rest of family fall in line. Seen it with my own eyes
Ali is the Quentin Miller of the Lunatics. He better as a writer than a rapper
So he did all the writing......yet he needed Nelly to help him with his album?? He hasnt made sense this entire interview.
I don't know whether or not I agree with what Ali is saying here, but to be fair, sometimes artists write better for others than they do for themselves.
@jaylouis8227 that's true
he needed help brainstorming. nelly was successful at the time and could've at least offered advice, production ideas whatever. there's way more to an album than writing
I believe 90% of Nelly and 10% of Ali. Nelly just makes more sense
The same way Drake can write for others but need people to write stuff for him. Its just how the industry is. When Ali was about to drop, having Murph and Nelly add some of their sauce to it would go a long way.
I feel his pain, but I feel like he should have been more responsible for his position within the industry.
Now its a joke all that hard work put in for a bunch of nothing ass people online get to say you lying smh or hating on nelly the person/artist you created
What happened was the company who originally owned Nellys publishing learned from their mistake from selling back Nellys publishing for 75k and wasn’t about to do it with Ali’s publishing and that messed him up.
Boom!
That was a excellent point, never thought about it that way
when Nelly got his publishing back...that got everyone who signed the deal got out of the deal with D2 also not just Nelly...I believe that's what Ali said in the B High interview
@@DGCCTVthats bs, only person who got their publishing back besides nelly was city spud
@@DGCCTVnaw after Nelly got his back the rest of the members had to hold out to see how Nelly situation panned out. Soon as Nelly situation produced enough money to possibly negotiate getting everyone else’s publishing back the value of the crew went up because his album did beyond its expectation. Nelly success turned them into walking licks just knowing they were attached to Nelly.
How you write someone else a Diamond album but couldn't write yourself a Gold Album
Exactly and just by coincidence he couldn’t write any hits for nobody but Nelly that doesn’t make any sense
Lyrics don’t sell everything. Papoose don’t even have a wood album. Lol
Heavy Heavy Starch
Facts!!
@@jaimainelee3609pap went double plastic in da hood!! And triple plywood in da skreets!!
Nelly had that "it" star quality. My crew went through the same thing. Major label wanted to sign me, solo. Not the group. I turned it down and now, you dont have a damn clue who i am. Keeping it real! PS. Wlthe crew aint even cool anymore
Bro this interview has me laughing for all the wrong reasons @10:25 .. my album aint do good ..shii which one lmaoooo
@ 10:55 what was your salary .. (ali) Nothing.. NOTHING ..(interviewer) maybe you didnt understand my question lmaooooo
I’m screaming !!!!! 😂
I dnt think any real hip hop head ever thought Nelly was a dope mc. Soo the fact he didn't write his dopest shit makes sense.
Like I said him Nelly and Spud been in competition since the group started. Ali had the lyrics, Nelly had the voice and swag along with Murphy, Ke was Turk of hot boys in the Lunatic group. Ke got better as the group got famous. Nelly wanted to be the one to put the city on before anyone else. He conquered that goal. He don't give Chingy or anyone else credit for putting on for the city the hardest.
It is ego
Why should Nelly give Chingy credit. He ain't his cheerleader. Let the fans decide and fight about who did what first!! Why y'all act like business is fair, it's every man and woman for themselves. Nelly was and is the biggest rapper to come out of St. Louis, I wouldn't give any one any juice or credit if I was Nelly. Get it on your own, all they would get is the ✌🏾sign 🤣😂
@@BigMike1784 Chingy put on for the hood of Walnut Park. Everybody know that is the dangerous area in our city and Chingy put on for the Bloods and Duece Crips over there. Chingy got songs mfs ain't never heard mainstream because he went so gangster and crazy on the song, record label was scared to promote it. Nelly was the first to turn us up music wise but not the best.
I think he is bitter but he have some points also. The lesson is that you can’t expect people to do for you the way you do for them.
If you was in his shoes you'll be bitter too
Maybe he's bitter cuz he has a point ... like who wouldn't be
This is why I feel like the people that came before them should do a better job of educating these youngins in the industry.
This is why the most selfish in the game are the most successful it seems to me. Not in every case but mostly. When there is millions on the line most aren't gonna have that group mentality. On top of that you got the white people telling nelly he's the one etc.
It's NOT being bitter IF you are correct. He is correct. He as well as ALL people with fame get to a point where fan gossip and industry dealings get to you and you have to speak on it to set shit straight.
From listening to Ali it seems as though he might not have got all his writing credits and he might not have been properly compensated for the work he did. He should have hired a lawyer or something back then to make sure that he was being properly compensated. Nelly was looking out for himself when it came to the business and the money. Ali should have looked out for himself.
That why Nelly was more business smart than Ali
Ali didn’t own his publishing another company did. Ali supposedly knew the business
Great questions. This interviewer read my mind. Asked the questions I wanted to ask exactly how I would've asked them.
Yeah, dude ask the real shit
If Nelly was begging him for help on the album well how can Nelly help him 🤷🏿♂️
I could have swore Murphy Lee said on vlad that universal signed the st lunatics as a favor to nelly and nelly said the same thing in an interview 2 years ago 😮😮😮. So somebody lying😅😅
Can we all just get along? And yall give us one more Saint lunatics record. Called the retirement 💯💯
Naw the group was trash
Murphy Lee the only one who don’t seem bitter towards Nelly and shows love to everybody
He was the youngest. He's grateful for the run they had. Ali older so he got more of a chip on his shoulder about shit. But Murphy was the young nigga of the group. I wouldn't be bitter about shit either. Had a good run!
Murphy went a signed a deal behind Nelly back he can't be bitter
Because Murphy was happy to be part of the group and didn’t contribute as much as Ali is claiming. Ali managed the group and claims to have written most of Nellys debut album and came up with concepts for the songs. If that’s all true then yes it makes sense for Ali to feel the way he feel.
He has no reason to be. He was the youngest and just happy to be apart of St Louis history.
Murphy said Nelly shit on him too look at bhigh interviews
Did anyone else catch the part where he said he lied about his Grandma death 😮 this dude will lie about anything if he lies about that
He said they told him he couldn’t get off the flight, thts when he told them his grandmother was dead; which she passed away in 1984..😂Ali a wild boy
😂😂😂😂
I remember Nelly saying how Universal records passed on the St Lunatics but picked him out for a solo project as he had the right 'look'. That alone would have caused a lot of resentment and jealousy amongst the group. The fact of the matter is they all wanted Nelly's spot. Seeing Nelly enjoy huge fame, wealth and groupies and benefits of fame must have been sickening for them, if they're being honest. Eminem even said jealousy is what breaks up a lot of these rap groups. One gets huge and the others get jealous.
Your comprehension is very limited this man repeats over and over he’s not for the glam and gluts he wanted to go home after putting in the work he didn’t want fame and parting with stars …he wanted to see him win
They didn't want his spot dummy they just wanted to go on the ride with him like they did coming in the game Nelly didn't give them their credit for helping him
@@sireastside6210 Are you an Internet tough guy?
Facts!
@@acepeso6083and Ali is clearly lying.. leading to group to sign away their publishing to his record could get off the ground clearly shows he wanted to be famous. He just ain’t have the star power or work ethic. So now he running around looking for credit.. for fame.. it make no sense to be a president for any company and not get paid anything .. this mfer lying.
Prez easily Vlads best interviewer on his roster
🤯Prez said hold up you must have not understood my question ⁉️ wow
He basically said “So you couldn’t beat his ass bro? You had to do interviews about it?” 😭😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I’m screaming 😂
@@ayeechase25 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm kinda lost. If you wrote all the music. Made all the hooks. Picked all the beats. What did you need them to help you with
As great of writer and creator that Ali was. He would’ve never sold millions of records as nelly. Nelly was a sex symbol. He had the look, the swag and the voice. All of that matters. Universal knew this, that’s why they really only wanted nelly. This still goes on till this day. Where the group is trying to get a deal but the label only wants one of them. Do you take the deal? Or do you stay in the projects with your homies? Easy to say I’m loyal to my friends until a million cash is in your face.
Facts and if neggas was really your friends they’ll let u do what u have to do ! Until u can create a platform for them like nelly did for st lunatics cause Ali ain’t do shit but fuck it up now he wanna keep crying hear after year
Universal ONLY wanted Nelly clearly. Nelly pulled rank to ride with the guys hence why Murphy and Ali got solo deals. Ali did messed up business. If what he says is true from the writing aspect, he would have DEMANDED more points on the album period. Ain't nobody contribute a huge amount of work and not asked for either money and/or points. They asked for the money, which came out of Nelly's budget and STILL got solo deals. But if you signed your publishing rights as a group to a local production group, but Nelly brought his back after Country Grammar blew up, whose fault is that???? And if you feel this way about getting your just due, why not call the man, WHY ARE YOU DOING PUBLIC INTERVIEWS spreading half-truths SMH!!!
People just say anything be quiet
Okay. This is a level head man. I'm going to hear this out completely.
Here is my story.
I used to work for a company I helped co-found. Truth be told, the white man invested 100% of the money. I only helped with the paper work and served as CEO.
A few years later, he had a painful conversation with me about seperation (due to the cries of one big client). With grace, I left the company I co-founded with nothing.
Today, I solely own an agribusiness and invested in a tech startup. Going solo helped me to focus on my stuff, apply my ideas and build wealth in the process.
Why Ali and others are not doing this is beyond me? Niggaz should stop crying over spilled milk. If you have the creativity and small capital, develop your lane beyond St. Lunatics. Nelly will respect you. Dre left Deathrow and developed Aftermath. Cube left Ruthless and created CubeVision. If you have the writing skill, build and business model around it.
I pretty sure he tried, and prolly didn't have the success that he wanted. Ali is hurt and the clock has ran it's course to be a rapper. Why he's not more vested in other artist and/or other content like movies, is a mystery to me. We are watching this grown ass man vent about the mistakes that he made. He could have directed his royalties towards a phantom company.
The MOST PROLOFIC AND PROFOUND COMMENT I HAVE EVER SEEN... MOTIVATION MU NIGGA....SALUTE
Factual 🫡🫡🫡
Yea cant stay n be used. I helped build companies and make millions and i was forced to walk away w a severance package. Nice check but I was the key. Gotta grow through what you go through.
Thing is, He is being interviewed and telling his side of the story. He doesn't sound that bitter to me, just sounds like he is telling his version of events. He should've def had his publishing together before he did the work though. Also he can retroactively claim any missing publishing and sue for any back royalties. That's definitely in the cards.
How Nelly Got Sky Scrapers and Islands and you spitt'n here loll😭🙌🏼💫
Ali got about every excuse in the world for why he didn't get himself outta that situation. Alot of this, he can only blame himself for
I pray to God ur best friend or ur bitch betrays u. And wen it happens don't make any excuse . Take it
"I was raised by my daddy" 😂 like dude
He was on B High saying "well I'm a Cancer". Even B High was like "ummmm...ok"
@@EddieisKrueger 😆😆😆
@@brandosmythe7259 😄😄😄
Shawn Prez always talking about playing Devils Advocate lol
Ali didnt need anyones help and did all of Country Grammar and Free City, but when it was time to do a solo album, he on Vlad whining about nobody helping him. Yeah....aight.
This dude is a piece of work
He should have worked better on the lies. Nothing he said made since.
I am Nelly and these are the St. Lunatics😂😂😂
😂😂😂
Ali gave all of his material to Nelly and all he get from Nelly is painted as bitter. Cold world.
That don’t make sense. If he gave him material he should be able to easily create more just like ice cube did.
That’s cold
@@YouHearMe513Ali is a writer not an entertainer. And Nelly hasn't had a hit since Ali was out of the picture.
This is that old dude that always is the victim. He wrote every record for others but needed help with his. Ali never checked with the fans. He was not that dude. Nelly & Murph had the draw. Ali keeps talking about the group. You’re older than everyone but keep getting sonned. It’s painful to watch bc he’s removed from accountability and that he wasn’t as needed as he wanted to be.
@@WhitneySutton-dx8otright he got sonned from niggas ten years younger then him plus he was never really artist material
Damn Ali a stand up guy but bro got played smfh🤦🏾♂️😶
S/O my man for not being biased.
Ali ain’t telling y’all that the reason he never told anyone that he wrote for Nelly, is because he’d sold their publishing to the twins and they would have taken all the money anyway. So he had to just roll with whatever Mo gave him.
I told Ali after Shake Ya Tailfeather Nelly was gonna start acting like Diddy
-TK Kirkland
How was he the president of the label and didn’t get paid when he could pay himself. Get this mf outta here please 😂
I’m cryin 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Nelly is 50 YRS OLD !!
Let it GO !!! This man is hurt , I get it but it’s time to move on frfr
@@tiffneeizthe1 like c’mon!! If he was meant to be a star it would have happened. He was simply not a good rapper. Someone que up Boughetto 😂
Been knowing Ali since we were kids. I hate this for them
Documentation beats conversation all day everyday.
"Maybe you didn't understand my question..." 😂😂
What is it that Ali wants from Nelly? I’m confused? Is it money? Recognition for his work? What does he want? Cus eventually it’s comes of as rambling.
money. its always money
@@koreylrprobably so
Everything he feels he's owed i guess. Cutting a huge check would probably do nothing since the publishing would feed him for a lifetime.
From what I'm gathering, Nelly is the background blocking his moves.
He wants to disassociate from Nelly so that he can make his own moves.
@@ddavis8988 He has no moves, respectfully JR was never going to blow up. He couldn’t even get a buzz in ST Louis and he’s been out for years. He needs to ask Murphy Lee for money as well because he went gold. I’m sure he “wrote” on that project as well
I died laughing when he said “Good Lawd” 😅😅
The interviewer is perplexed 😂😂😂
He’s always asking deep, funny, weird questions… but necessary
Murphy went and wasn't even signed to Nelly but Nelly went out his way and marketed him like he was that the only issue Nelly had with him Murphy understand and regrets that
I hear what Ali is saying but this is what is bothering me. If he so called wrote 90% of Nelly's debut album. To include picking the beats. And he allegedly wrote the majority of the groups album. To include picking the beats for that as well. Then why would he need Nelly's or any other group members help for his solo project? Because let him tell it he was a one man band. He was the one writing everything. He was the one picking the beats. Now either he's lying and he didn't do everything he claims he did. Or he just happened to capture lightning in a bottle. And he just had lyrics for days. To write all of Nelly's and the St. Lunatics albums.
Murphy Lee said Ali did all tht in his interview too....
It’s called reciprocity
@@LetezOBey If you and me are in a group. And I allegedly write 90% of your raps and pick the beats for your debut album. And I allegedly did the same thing for our group album. Then wth would I need you to reciprocate? I did everything. So I should be able to do the same thing for my our debut album? According to Ali in a previous interview with Vlad. Ali said Nelly could only write one 16 bar verse. According to Ali Nelly could not write three 16 bar verses. So I'm assuming the same holds true for the rest of the lunatics. Because according to Ali he damn near did everything for Nelly and the lunatics albums. So I guess all Nelly and the other lunatics had to do was writing one 16 bar verse. And kick their feet up and let Ali do write everybody else's two 16 bar verses for every single song. Ain't no way. Ain't no fuckin way. If he has that much skill at writing. Then right now as we speak Ali should be ghostwriting. For damn near 85-90 percent of rappers in hip-hop right now.
Just like the dungeon family said outkast album actually everybody’s album, said Dre and big was in school half the time that album was being put together
How you write all those records but couldn’t write one for yourself 😂
Omg it happens all the time in the industry 😂 he not lying he wrote most of that album this generation don't care if the lie more entertaining
Writing and performing a song are 2 different talents. I kinda wish y'all would learn that already
His album didn’t get the push it should have..also Breathe in Breathe out wasn’t in his album it was in a soundtrack
Same saw Quincy Jones have wrote and produced hundreds of hit songs yet he knows that if he was the performer it wouldn’t hit the same.
@@randomcharacter6501EXACTLY. Ali nobody was checking for him, he wasn't a star. U can have the hottest song but if It don't hit people ears it don't matter. That's not nelly fault.
So you telling me he wrote all the songs for nelly but was mad they didn’t help him make his own album so you telling me he couldn’t do what he did for nelly for himself or another artist?
Who wrote Nelly’s verse on “where the party at” -Jagged Edge
Love this interview and interviewer
This nigga bugging. They may have had local fame as a group. But to go nation wide it was Nelly who took em there. The Label chose to make Nelly solo which turned out to be great and yall ALL ate. What he did afterthat he need to blame himself 🤷🏾
The Shawn Prez dude is being semi disrespectful, because he sees Ali as someone who's coming from a place of weakness. That's some Ho shit.
If delusional was a person... make another HOV. I picked all the beats but show up to my session without beats.Brainstorm? I thought you wrote everything. But you need help? 😂
"the ngga is you out ya mind?" 😂😂 Prez right tho!
Who remembers Ali and gipp dropping songs?!
It was horrible
When he asked about his height & size Bro said “good lawd!” 😂😂😂
He like hearing his own self talk 😂😂😂
He sound so sincere i can hear the hurt in his voice its f*** up. . Damn bro lol im a cancer too so i feel him.
Basically Ali was for the team and Nelly was for himself. Loyalty can be a good and bad thing
Nelly put in his contract that if he sells 250k then the team gets a group deal and each member solo deals. If that ain’t for the team I don’t know what is 😂😂
Nelly did more for the team than Ali did his entire life lol
💯💯💯💯
@@innovativeVideoContentu saying that like he ain’t leveraging his contract terms without the TEAMS lyrics
Nelly was putting them on his shows later on an paying them out of his money. He let then eat but they should of hired there own lawyers
Interviewer started going in 12:10 😂
I just don’t understand what this man wants. After watching the Murphy Lee interview he clearly wants the ‘Tics back together. Ali is just complaining about nothing. He keeps claiming he doesn’t care, so then what does he actually want?!
13:41 "Go ahead and make your jokes..." no jokes fam
Ali was the Professor X of the group… mastermind 🧠
Facts he was basically RZA
@@zctv10 😂😂😂😂 my bad G
@@DonMally916yea & rza fucked over the rest lol
@@zctv10BONG!!!!! Never disrespect the RZA!!!! 😂😂
Unpopular opinion….nobody was EVER waiting on Ali to drop something….I’m 39, so I was there…we didn’t care then, we don’t care now😢
Nelly got them all in nba street 2
Man.. I ain’t gonna lie.. I’m hearing the real beef from Ali! He’s mad that his solo album flopped and he never blew up! Real Talk, Ali had his chances to shine and he just didn’t have the magic and charisma. In life, when you have a group of people who hang out and go everywhere together there’s usually always one person who is the star that others gravitate towards! Sometimes there’s two people! Everyone else is just along for the ride and have to accept that reality! In the case of the St. Lunatics, Nelly and Murphy Lee were those 2 guys! Period! Why Ali keeps saying that Nelly won’t let him leave to do anything else sounds ridiculous coming from a grown man.
The Student surpassed the Teacher.
The Teacher didn't expect or like it.
Ol boy always asks the right questions…..big ups
But who writes all them songs and not ask for a percentage of each song or album sells
He probably didn't know anything about all that
The Lighting💡 on this joint is 💯
Why would they help when you claim you wrote his entire album on your own ?
Exactly
Ion like how they cut my grass, they don’t make line n shit😂 boi I felt that😂😂
Nelly just had that star power the label backed Nelly and put money behind him that just was the difference
Well stars are what the business is built off.....but by his own admission Ali wanted to take the money and go home. How you not doing no interviews, promo, working the record, meet and greets, but yet want to still get checks and be a family man???? What part of the game is that🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
This dude said good lord.... 🤣 🤣
He helped everyone but couldn’t help himself 😌
Everybody got a part to play
That's the part that I don't understand. He allegedly did all this writing for Nelly's and the St lunatics albums. But when it came time for his solo project. Now all of a sudden he needs help?
The line about cutting the grass with lines had me tripping