You had Prior Deals Before the Lunatics, and you were a manager, but yet you convinced everyone in the group to sign a Horrible deal that handed over 100% of their Publishing, Nelly was Lacking Self Esteem 🤔🤔, but he was the Only One From the Group that was Offered A Solo Record Deal in which he made sure that All group members would be compensated as a collective and as individuals, fast Forward you mad about not receiving publishing and wanna create this narrative That Nelly did you wrong Because you didn't get the same slice of the pie as the Mega star did.. Ain't nobody coming to See you Otis, the same way you had a plan to make sure the group prospered, you should have taken the initiative to secure your personal business affairs.. Not blame Nelly.. let it go bro..
It’s easy it’s about the look 👀 the timing ⏱️… and who’s choosing who should get exposure… Nelly was just more marketable…. It was the obvious choice… but you can appear to be confident and charismatic… but still don’t feel good about yourself
Nelly did everything he could do for them. They didnt take advantage of the solo deals he laid out for them. They didnt use the right Strategy in the music game. If they attempted the Solo projects and had Success like Nelly, Universal would of saw their $$ potential and would of bought them out of the old D2 deal. Look... If Silkk the Shocker can go Platinum, all those guys could have too. Nelly could have supported their albums as well as each other Lunatic member for it to succeed(esp if everyone already contributed to Nellys album, keep it going). Those old No Limit albums had features on every song from members damn near, thats why every album went Platinum no matter who or how Bad the artist was. Also, For example how Murphy Lee had a Big look from Diddy & Nelly on Tail Feather, then he blew up. No one sucks, Just gotta play the game right even if it means piggybacking off your labelmates which They didnt even try.
Scottie said MJ was a horrible player before he came, Keefe D said he kept Diddy alive and he owes him, now this man saying he wrote majority of a diamond album and couldn’t write hits for nobody else. This shit getting out of hand, everyone ain’t meant to be in the spotlight or be rich we all have to find our own way in life.
What artist like Ali fail to realize is this: The FANS make you famous. You can write all the “hits” you want but if the fans don’t like YOU it really doesn’t matter. Ppl loved Nelly not the Lunatics
Tru. Cuz I can write and record a song and people hear it and don't like. Then you can turn around and record the same exact song and it sounds 100 times better. On top of that you got to have the look in the swag. Bottom line is you gotz to have that it factor.
Idk about all that. People loved the st.lunatics. Some of nellys biggest earlier songs had the tics on in. Ride with me,batter up,air force ones and im prolly missing a few. Lets just be honest…..nelly was the STAR. Just like with cash money,niggas loved the hot boyz and bg and juvenile but Wayne was the STAR.
Nelly did the Super Bowl twice and brought all y’all with him. How was he holding y’all back. He made sure y’all all got solo deals but you didn’t want to do the work
He might be telling the truth, I’ve looked up a lot of they situation and everybody involved backs his story and Nelly ain’t did nothing musically since they all fell out so🤷🏾♂️
Lying. Lying. Ali keeps coming back to interviews (why?). Because he can't say what he wants to say. He wanted to be Nelly. That talented, business minded, much adored by fans...,,yeah that Nelly. The part of Nelly he did not want to embrace is the ONE he can't talk about. Nelly paid a much bigger price than he did for all that has occurred since Ali JOINED the tics. Oh, I agree, Nelly NOT the less esteemed one. I have watched several interviews and initially I thought he is upset because he wanted Nelly to pay for his mistake (the D2 deal) forever. Continue to Take care of the group for life. He made the mistake. All of them had chances to record and be famous. But, after this interview, it couldn't be the reason. He wants Nelly erased. One more interview and maybe he will say once and for all what he really wants the fans to know. He can stop that big brother little brother crap. How long has he despised Nelly ?
I just heard Nelly whole side of the story let me save y’all some time……Ali was still in that bad publishing deal that they all signed when the record company owned 100% of their publishing in 97 or whatever yr but when country grammar came out Nelly was the only one to buy his publishing back for $75,000 that he didn’t have universal paid for it….so when it came to Ali admitting to writing some of the songs on country grammar he didn’t say anything because of the company he was signed too back in the day still owned 100% of his publishing therefor they would get paid for his part of the publishing on “Country Grammer” so basically he is mad at Nelly because he feels he should basically had paid him under the table….but this the tricky part Ali was in a rush to sign that bad deal back in the day and Nelly signed it last because he was skeptical knowing it was bad business but still signed it but had to buy his way out of it later on down the line….now Ali is coming out saying he wrote it all which may be true but Nelly not denying that he had a part of writing on the album basically Ali is butt hurt I’m sure he made more than enough off Nelly from 03-2018 he just in his feelings because they fell out😂💯
Exactly. They didnt take advantage of the solo albums deals laid out for them. If Silkk the Shocker can go Platinum, all those guys could have too. Nelly could have supported their albums as well as each other Lunatic member for it to succeed. Those old No Limit albums had features on every song from members, thats why every album went Platinum no matter who or how bad the artist was. No one sucks, Just play the game right..
Murphy should’ve been bigger yet he’s not bitter towards Nelly and doesn’t blame Nelly and how could the pretty boy of the group who had Ashanti in her prime would have low self esteem ? I find that hard to believe
There's no excuse for this dude not to be a star on his own if it was meant to be may I remind u besides the fts he had on Nelly albums there were the st lunatics songs were he did his Thang but Nelly n Murphy were clearly the star power think about it he was on monster hit like grills n still stucc
you heard this man keep referencing an exit plan... but its based on someone's else success. we never heard HIM be successful on his own, but he's still crying out for help or someone who would listen. its' sad!
No doubt Ali has been wronged, but there is also no doubt in my mind that he is also jealous and hating. Being a successful rapper is more than writing lyrics. Thats just part of it. Some things you just born with or without and cant do nothing about it. Not everyone has the components needed to be famous. Some people are just blessed and Ali has to learn to accept it
As a man from the hood LISTEN, no man from our neck of the woods will ALLOW this much shit to be done to them! Idc if u was raised to not fight or Muslim or what. Lol all the stuff he saying he just accepted from beginning til now because he was a friend is hard to believe ! So imma call cap n some of it and it’s jealousy . I would fight my blood brother if he TRIED to do SOME of that Shit to me! We would be coo after might mess up the family reunion for a few years 😂😂. But we will make amends .
The interviewer is asking the questions, he's just answering them. Ain't no way I would've got played like that. We would've got it shaking forreal, forreal. Brothers, friends, or not, you ain't gonna hold me back from eating. One of the rules of the 48 laws of power is You don't exceed the master. It's alot of people that don't mind people succeeding but they don't want them having more success then them.
What makes these dudes talk about another man like this? Especially over 25 years later. The hate within some is wild. Imagine spending most of your life blaming another human for your situation.
" When I was on the road doing our Lunatic thing. Where you at ? You in my house. In my basement. You and my lil brother y'all over thurr eating my food." Ali when he was talking about Chingy on beef 3 😂😂😂
Nelly is like any other artist that sales, He had charisma, the look, He had the it factor, If Ali wrote all those songs like he said he did,Then he made a bad business decision. It’s sad to think that your friends would keep it 100 with you, But we all seen and heard these stories before. Friends and business don’t mix.
Well if you watch nellys interview you’ll see the difference. He admits that he wasn’t the front man from jump and that the group wrote the SONG country grammar together. He was very humble and candid about his group memebers contributions and how the management chose him to get the solo deal.
Ali f'd himself when they rushed and signed that contract, and that's what he's sore about. He want some backpay, but there's no paperwork to validate his claims.
Bruh I honestly can’t believe that folks really been believing this dude lmaooo bruh the hero & mastermind in every situation & Nelly is the bad guy with some kind of issue in every situation 😭😭😭🤦🏾♂️
As someone that don't put nothing past nobody, it's more of not allowing yourself to be in a situation where someone can do you harm than feeling like I would do someone else harm🎯
Like Eminem with D12, they were successful with him but their solo shit bombed because people weren’t there for them, they were there to hear Em. Sure they were all talented(except Bizarre), but if you don’t have that X factor it doesn’t mean a thing.
To be honest Nelly's draw was his delivery, yes it might have been Ali's lyrics but no one wouldve thought to perform them like Nelly. Kinda like how Tarantino said he puts Sam Jackson in all his movies because only he could bring that type of life to his own characters he created
I know the d2 Publishing deal was holding them back but what they(St Lunatics) should of done is the Solo albums Nelly lined up for them. If those solo albums took off, Universal probably would of bought them out of the d2 deal like Nelly as them seeing their $$ potential. They didnt take advantage of the solo projects that was on the table for them, so Its their own fault. You cant depend on Nelly to take care of you forever bc you didnt take of your business from jump.
Ali did a bad business deal in the beginning. Nelly did not trust him after that. Why would Nelly sign anything Ali brought to him after that without having his lawyers read it over? Nelly’s advisors probably told him that it was another bad deal. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Nelly wasn’t going to get fooled again by Ali.
@@otarzan ppl that right hits for ppl like Ali claiming can write them for their self and other for example Jermaine Dupri I can lots of others that’s just one example
@@Drejac1 True. I honestly don’t know how people get by without being able to communicate effectively. The way I see it is, if you can’t spell or form cohesive sentences then I’ve already disregarded anything you’re saying.
I don't put nothing past nobody and it's not because I do people dirty. It's because I've been f^@ked over by people I never thought would do me like that. Life teaches you that lesson.
Nelly had a high-pitched country rap voice, great production that made his vocals stand out, and a catchy hook like in E.I. I see why that album went Diamond.
Wen Nelly first came out he sholl was faking a persona. He used to try to hard to sound country in interviews. like boi u do not talk like that😂 and he didn't have to do that cause we got our own distinct accent in da Lou anyway. It was almost like a STL /fake New Orleans accent. Go back and look at a old 106 & Park interview then look at a new one. He don't talk like that no mo.
He didn’t want to be on the road tho. U heard him say out his mouth he wanted to be home every chance he get. He was out! Why would Nelly just give him free money without him working
This is why PAC the 🐐! The outlawz were childhood friends and family members. Pac always looked out for his homies. Pac would let everyone jump on his album. Thank you PAC for being THE GOAT!
I can’t say what Ali is saying is all false, the truth probably falls somewhere in the middle. But I definitely see a lot of resentment and envy towards Nelly.
Ali has had 4 or 5 deals even before nelly and none of his situations worked out the way he wanted. If i were nelly I wouldn't want ali managing me either.
Damn bruh you can always tell the dudes who have to lie to themselves about how things actually went down, cause it's common fact that the group didn't make it if they didn't go all in on Nelly. Like bro, your biggest hit is a Nelly feature.
I don’t put anything past anybody either not because I would do them dirty but because I’ve been done dirty in the past by someone I thought would never do me dirty!
I just found a video where some guys from st Louis came to a radio station to press Ali kyjuan and Murphey Lee ( the guys were lame) but on that video they asked " who have nelly and st lunatic put on after they got famous" Kyjuan looked in the camera and said "with all honesty Nelly put us on universal did not want us" and guess who was right there agreeing...Ali. mind you these guys were pressing them in a lobby not interviewing them. So i agree with Murph they need to just sit amongst themselves and talk it out.
This is sad..Ali is out here taking credit for making Nelly, the St Lunatics, writing all the hits…if you did it once you can do it again! Put your talents & gifts to good use and show everyone..But what he’s doing is only making everything Nelly said sound truthful. Nelly is living rent free in his head. But what I know for sure, while this man is complaining & taking credit..Nelly is out here working..his tour schedule is full! Hard work+persistence=Star=$50M
I agree that Murphy Lee should of been bigger but Nelly explained that you chose to put you and Big Gipp album out before Murphy Lee 2nd when he had already proved he can stand on his own.
Royalties come twice a year... He was getting paid on schedule, and didn't even have his publishing. Ali complains too much, and already said he's a Cancer... Him and Nelly are EMOTIONAL men, so u have to take some of it with a grain of salt. Ali is literally in his feelings, and lets them guide him too much tbh.
Gotta love when fanboys will ride with an artist they like whether right or wrong. I believe Ali is telling the truth in certain parts and Nelly the same. Just like in court, there’s 2 sides to a story and somewhere in the middle is the truth. Could Nelly be slime in certain ways? Absolutely. Could Ali have been too passive about his money? He was. Point is, stop riding with the more successful person just bc YOU like them or they inspire you. Seek to actually be non biased in situations and look for what’s actually right and true as opposed to siding with ppl based off feelings.
😂😂 exactly.. you know ppl believe the most popular or who they like and don't know nothing about nothing of wutz really goin on but if u frm u city and kno them u kno Ali was the head of the snake and the man wit the bars. But the fans don't know that, they only know what they'd seen on TV and that's Nelly. It was a long road way before that.💯
@@k-9inethaboss780 Bro! And they do this regularly like the artist knows them or will ever think about them or do anything beneficial for them in their life smh 🤦🏽♂️.
Excellent question that was asked: Nelly is rich...so what benefit would it give him to hold Ali back this much. Unless Nelly is just an evil mf then it don't make sense. This where he lose me
@@sycomantzthat's different. 50 has a contract on Buck. Nelly never signed any of the Lunatics. They signed to Universal. The management company story seems like the company told him something just to get Nelly to sign. Once he was signed, they lied to him. Nelly doesn't own Maverick,l. Hell, he's not even the most popular act with the company. Even the Country Grammar publishing, that has nothing to do with Nelly. That's the label. The label didn't give him credit...
"the people highest up have the lowest self esteem. The prettiest people do the ugliest things. For the road to riches and diamond rings" - Kanye West.
My homie left my ass 😅...he got a producer deal with Sony and was spose to bring me...soon as he got that 800,000$ check...I haven't heard from him since...I thought we was a team...but he showed my ass...😅
This is SAD ... Ali sounds bitter... all this goes off of emotion which is how Nelly said he was in the interview years back. If he allegedly wrote the entire Country Grammar album that was filled with hits then why couldn't he have done the same with his Heavy Starch album? Nelly repeated the success with Nellyville... I don't know trying to take credit for someone's success 23 years after the album dropped is bugged out. I wish these brothers the best and I hope that they resolve their issues.
Lol this shows the lunatics was ALL jealous… do you see D12 out here crying em didn’t make them successful and Mr porter with em everywhere and d12 stay loyal …. Nelly never had real friends…. Ali said ima be alright lol the only reason anybody talking to u is to talk about Nelly lol this is funny
Seems like he wanted to ride Nelly coat tail instead of actually doing the work to get a deal.. 1 member shouldn’t have to oversee the well being of everybody in the group. And u can feel the envy coming from Ali
You had Prior Deals Before the Lunatics, and you were a manager, but yet you convinced everyone in the group to sign a Horrible deal that handed over 100% of their Publishing, Nelly was Lacking Self Esteem 🤔🤔, but he was the Only One From the Group that was Offered A Solo Record Deal in which he made sure that All group members would be compensated as a collective and as individuals, fast Forward you mad about not receiving publishing and wanna create this narrative That Nelly did you wrong Because you didn't get the same slice of the pie as the Mega star did.. Ain't nobody coming to See you Otis, the same way you had a plan to make sure the group prospered, you should have taken the initiative to secure your personal business affairs.. Not blame Nelly.. let it go bro..
@@sharese3282so why Ali didn’t blow?
@sharese3282 how you write a diamond album, 7x platinum album, and another platinum album and can't write yourself a gold album
It’s easy it’s about the look 👀 the timing ⏱️… and who’s choosing who should get exposure…
Nelly was just more marketable…. It was the obvious choice… but you can appear to be confident and charismatic… but still don’t feel good about yourself
Nelly did everything he could do for them. They didnt take advantage of the solo deals he laid out for them. They didnt use the right Strategy in the music game. If they attempted the Solo projects and had Success like Nelly, Universal would of saw their $$ potential and would of bought them out of the old D2 deal. Look... If Silkk the Shocker can go Platinum, all those guys could have too. Nelly could have supported their albums as well as each other Lunatic member for it to succeed(esp if everyone already contributed to Nellys album, keep it going). Those old No Limit albums had features on every song from members damn near, thats why every album went Platinum no matter who or how Bad the artist was. Also, For example how Murphy Lee had a Big look from Diddy & Nelly on Tail Feather, then he blew up. No one sucks, Just gotta play the game right even if it means piggybacking off your labelmates which They didnt even try.
Exactly this dude is just blaming Nelly for everything
Scottie said MJ was a horrible player before he came, Keefe D said he kept Diddy alive and he owes him, now this man saying he wrote majority of a diamond album and couldn’t write hits for nobody else. This shit getting out of hand, everyone ain’t meant to be in the spotlight or be rich we all have to find our own way in life.
😂😂😂
The biggest facts
They all claimed they made hov,but can't make another hov 😂
@@Yaro79plenty of dudes out here like dude they just ain’t axx kissing and getting carried by the industry like dude
Lmaooo
What artist like Ali fail to realize is this: The FANS make you famous. You can write all the “hits” you want but if the fans don’t like YOU it really doesn’t matter. Ppl loved Nelly not the Lunatics
Tru. Cuz I can write and record a song and people hear it and don't like. Then you can turn around and record the same exact song and it sounds 100 times better. On top of that you got to have the look in the swag. Bottom line is you gotz to have that it factor.
Facts! Unfortunately he’ll never comprehend that
Fans like what they are told To like.
Idk about all that. People loved the st.lunatics. Some of nellys biggest earlier songs had the tics on in. Ride with me,batter up,air force ones and im prolly missing a few. Lets just be honest…..nelly was the STAR. Just like with cash money,niggas loved the hot boyz and bg and juvenile but Wayne was the STAR.
@@MIGGYME1 right..& its not like Murphy Lee didnt get any shine himself..Ali just didnt have what it took; star power wise
Nelly did the Super Bowl twice and brought all y’all with him. How was he holding y’all back. He made sure y’all all got solo deals but you didn’t want to do the work
Nelly had more charisma than Ali in his own video😂😂😂😂😂
u r a nobody at home watcing ali though 😂🤡
Ayooooo🤣😭😂
Next clip going to be like
Ali: Nelly was the only one who didn't get some after the Tip Drill video
Something bout buddy…He the hero in every story and he was always the only one 100% solid 🤔
Keefe D syndrome
@@IceRockPolarlmfaoooooo
@@IceRockPolardaymmmmmn
@@retroesso😂😂
He might be telling the truth, I’ve looked up a lot of they situation and everybody involved backs his story and Nelly ain’t did nothing musically since they all fell out so🤷🏾♂️
S/O Nelly for putting 2 kids through college every year.
Yeah ok, it sounds good
Tax write off
Get off his dik lol it ain’t your kids
Which college?
You believe everything you read. Management plants stories intentionally for good publicity.
Nelly was definitely had the most energy and charisma
This whole interview should be titled... "Ali: Scorned!
"Nelly" and "low esteem" can't be uttered in the same sentence
Lying. Lying. Ali keeps coming back to interviews (why?). Because he can't say what he wants to say. He wanted to be Nelly. That talented, business minded, much adored by fans...,,yeah that Nelly. The part of Nelly he did not want to embrace is the ONE he can't talk about. Nelly paid a much bigger price than he did for all that has occurred since Ali JOINED the tics. Oh, I agree, Nelly NOT the less esteemed one. I have watched several interviews and initially I thought he is upset because he wanted Nelly to pay for his mistake (the D2 deal) forever. Continue to Take care of the group for life. He made the mistake. All of them had chances to record and be famous. But, after this interview, it couldn't be the reason. He wants Nelly erased. One more interview and maybe he will say once and for all what he really wants the fans to know. He can stop that big brother little brother crap. How long has he despised Nelly ?
I just heard Nelly whole side of the story let me save y’all some time……Ali was still in that bad publishing deal that they all signed when the record company owned 100% of their publishing in 97 or whatever yr but when country grammar came out Nelly was the only one to buy his publishing back for $75,000 that he didn’t have universal paid for it….so when it came to Ali admitting to writing some of the songs on country grammar he didn’t say anything because of the company he was signed too back in the day still owned 100% of his publishing therefor they would get paid for his part of the publishing on “Country Grammer” so basically he is mad at Nelly because he feels he should basically had paid him under the table….but this the tricky part Ali was in a rush to sign that bad deal back in the day and Nelly signed it last because he was skeptical knowing it was bad business but still signed it but had to buy his way out of it later on down the line….now Ali is coming out saying he wrote it all which may be true but Nelly not denying that he had a part of writing on the album basically Ali is butt hurt I’m sure he made more than enough off Nelly from 03-2018 he just in his feelings because they fell out😂💯
Okay I had it wrong I thought country grammar didn’t count under that deal
I look at the facts, bro ain’t use his opportunities wisely and that’s the bottom line.
Exactly. They didnt take advantage of the solo albums deals laid out for them. If Silkk the Shocker can go Platinum, all those guys could have too. Nelly could have supported their albums as well as each other Lunatic member for it to succeed. Those old No Limit albums had features on every song from members, thats why every album went Platinum no matter who or how bad the artist was. No one sucks, Just play the game right..
@@Skatin24z2 big facts, a grown ass man don’t want to take accountability for what he did not do🔥💯
Lol leaving voicemails on Nelly phone crying. Put all yo faith in another grown man to save u backfires nearly 90% the time
@@pesocheco big facts
Murphy should’ve been bigger yet he’s not bitter towards Nelly and doesn’t blame Nelly and how could the pretty boy of the group who had Ashanti in her prime would have low self esteem ? I find that hard to believe
When the man who doesn't mind being behind the scenes doesn't get his fair due, it feels worst.
There's no excuse for this dude not to be a star on his own if it was meant to be may I remind u besides the fts he had on Nelly albums there were the st lunatics songs were he did his Thang but Nelly n Murphy were clearly the star power think about it he was on monster hit like grills n still stucc
Well Ice Cube didn't need NWA so Ali should have try to survive on his own
Right. “MF said they made Hov well go make another Hov”😂
@@thekenyonlongshowniggas wasn't playing they day role, so we parted ways like Ben and j lo 😅😅
🤣🤣🤣@@jman1562001
I should have been did it but I been in a daze though/I put friends over business end of the day though 🤣🤣@@jman1562001
you heard this man keep referencing an exit plan... but its based on someone's else success. we never heard HIM be successful on his own, but he's still crying out for help or someone who would listen. its' sad!
The full interview gon be “Ali talking shit about Nelly”
No doubt Ali has been wronged, but there is also no doubt in my mind that he is also jealous and hating. Being a successful rapper is more than writing lyrics. Thats just part of it. Some things you just born with or without and cant do nothing about it. Not everyone has the components needed to be famous. Some people are just blessed and Ali has to learn to accept it
As a man from the hood LISTEN, no man from our neck of the woods will ALLOW this much shit to be done to them! Idc if u was raised to not fight or Muslim or what. Lol all the stuff he saying he just accepted from beginning til now because he was a friend is hard to believe ! So imma call cap n some of it and it’s jealousy . I would fight my blood brother if he TRIED to do SOME of that Shit to me! We would be coo after might mess up the family reunion for a few years 😂😂. But we will make amends .
This grown ass man needs to grow up take some accountability and get on with his life - the whole interviews been about Nelly
Yea dudes old and overweight,,,none of this mattered back in the day ,
The interviewer is asking the questions, he's just answering them. Ain't no way I would've got played like that. We would've got it shaking forreal, forreal. Brothers, friends, or not, you ain't gonna hold me back from eating. One of the rules of the 48 laws of power is You don't exceed the master. It's alot of people that don't mind people succeeding but they don't want them having more success then them.
He probably sit up at night rethinking. How Nelly play him. It's easy to say get over it.When it's not u.
@@Dogbreath921what does his weight have to do with anything?
@@justice4896 dudes lazy
What makes these dudes talk about another man like this? Especially over 25 years later. The hate within some is wild. Imagine spending most of your life blaming another human for your situation.
💯
He’s a Bozo
It's easy for you to say.
" When I was on the road doing our Lunatic thing. Where you at ? You in my house. In my basement. You and my lil brother y'all over thurr eating my food." Ali when he was talking about Chingy on beef 3 😂😂😂
😂😂😂
Lgendary, every time i see this dude i think about that. Chingy is at home laughing now LOL
Murphy being bigger ain’t Nelly fault, he wasn’t signed to Nelly, he got his deal outside of Nelly
Say it louder for the people in the back!!!!! 😮😮
I’ll take low self esteem with the biggest bank account every time 🤷🏾♂️
There's a reason Nelly made it solo......
Nelly is like any other artist that sales, He had charisma, the look, He had the it factor, If Ali wrote all those songs like he said he did,Then he made a bad business decision. It’s sad to think that your friends would keep it 100 with you, But we all seen and heard these stories before. Friends and business don’t mix.
Exactly they don’t mix Nelly had the look & he had the talent
I’m just here to read the comments of people that don’t even know Nelly defending Nelly …
Well if you watch nellys interview you’ll see the difference. He admits that he wasn’t the front man from jump and that the group wrote the SONG country grammar together. He was very humble and candid about his group memebers contributions and how the management chose him to get the solo deal.
@@sycomantz if that’s what happened…
And people that don't know Ali believe anything he says 😂
samething can be said about Ali
Murphy lee even said they nelly wrote his own bars aside country grammar that was originally a group song they didn’t wanna do and he kept the verses
I'm sure Shawn Prez is doing everything in his power to control his laughter from all these lies Ali's telling.
Ali f'd himself when they rushed and signed that contract, and that's what he's sore about. He want some backpay, but there's no paperwork to validate his claims.
Sounds more like he’s agreeing with him
He is telling the truth you fool he is exposing Nelly for the fraud he is
Nelly in his booghetto video was so funny. Like he knew it was trash
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Nelly had low self esteem?! 😂
Bruh I honestly can’t believe that folks really been believing this dude lmaooo bruh the hero & mastermind in every situation & Nelly is the bad guy with some kind of issue in every situation 😭😭😭🤦🏾♂️
FACTS!!! "You should see better than you hear".
On god yo. That just shows how gullible people can be. All this and I STILL don’t know what he’s talking about
How he do everything for Nelly and nothin for himself lol. Bro was the leader. Them publishing and writing credits should have been on lock.
He fuked that up Wit D2 signing that bad contract. publishing is whats hurting Ali.
As someone that don't put nothing past nobody, it's more of not allowing yourself to be in a situation where someone can do you harm than feeling like I would do someone else harm🎯
Exactly!!! Lol I think you just proved his point
Well said
This just shows how money destroys relationships between friends/family. You have to get everything in writing nowadays or risk being fucked over.
Not even nowadays. Bro shoulda got everything in writing back then too
Exactly don’t do no business without a contract
Nelly was the only one out of the lunatics who had the IT Factor
Like Eminem with D12, they were successful with him but their solo shit bombed because people weren’t there for them, they were there to hear Em. Sure they were all talented(except Bizarre), but if you don’t have that X factor it doesn’t mean a thing.
To be honest Nelly's draw was his delivery, yes it might have been Ali's lyrics but no one wouldve thought to perform them like Nelly. Kinda like how Tarantino said he puts Sam Jackson in all his movies because only he could bring that type of life to his own characters he created
I know the d2 Publishing deal was holding them back but what they(St Lunatics) should of done is the Solo albums Nelly lined up for them. If those solo albums took off, Universal probably would of bought them out of the d2 deal like Nelly as them seeing their $$ potential. They didnt take advantage of the solo projects that was on the table for them, so Its their own fault. You cant depend on Nelly to take care of you forever bc you didnt take of your business from jump.
Murphy lee did he just never followed up after his first album
Ain't nothing like a grown man speaking on another grown man picking on him 😂
Ayooooo🤣😂😂
Ali did a bad business deal in the beginning. Nelly did not trust him after that. Why would Nelly sign anything Ali brought to him after that without having his lawyers read it over? Nelly’s advisors probably told him that it was another bad deal. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Nelly wasn’t going to get fooled again by Ali.
If Ali wrote all Nelly hits why couldn’t he write hits for anyone else. This worse than a hurt / scorn ex girlfriend
Cuz Nelly sounded unique when he was rapping. His delivery helped make them hits
@@otarzan ppl that right hits for ppl like Ali claiming can write them for their self and other for example Jermaine Dupri I can lots of others that’s just one example
@@deesee2051You might want to focus on forming rudimentary sentences first.
@@gamingbytetv665exactly because none of that bs was English
@@Drejac1 True. I honestly don’t know how people get by without being able to communicate effectively. The way I see it is, if you can’t spell or form cohesive sentences then I’ve already disregarded anything you’re saying.
I don't put nothing past nobody and it's not because I do people dirty. It's because I've been f^@ked over by people I never thought would do me like that. Life teaches you that lesson.
Ali blames nelly for everything he’s failed at smh
Nelly had a high-pitched country rap voice, great production that made his vocals stand out, and a catchy hook like in E.I. I see why that album went Diamond.
Platinum
Diamond
@quentinmitchell4568 Correct me if I'm wrong. 2020 Counrty grammar became Diamond.
Ali wrote that shyt! 😂😂
@@quentinmitchell4568 10 x platinum = diamond. It went diamond I bought it twice
this would be like Mike Bivins getting mad at Bobby Brown for having success w/ the Dont Be Cruel Album lol
It's not Nelly's fault Murphy Lee signed a bad deal with Universal
Right... behind his back@ that!🙃
Right, sounds like they were always doing some ish behind his back but he still blew up. Now they need him, but I wouldn’t trust them
Low self esteem people fake their persona and put up a front to compensate and seek validation. Makes sense.
Is that 100% of the time?
Yea to someone insecure. Some people just actually have charisma, which u don’t
@@Money-dn6uq everyone has the potential to have charisma. All it is is being yourself 100% without fear of judgement.
Wen Nelly first came out he sholl was faking a persona. He used to try to hard to sound country in interviews. like boi u do not talk like that😂 and he didn't have to do that cause we got our own distinct accent in da Lou anyway. It was almost like a STL /fake New Orleans accent. Go back and look at a old 106 & Park interview then look at a new one. He don't talk like that no mo.
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He didn’t want to be on the road tho. U heard him say out his mouth he wanted to be home every chance he get. He was out! Why would Nelly just give him free money without him working
He should of gave him money for writing his hits fool
He said after the work was done he wanted to go home and Nelly wanted him to go to puffy parties, listen fool!
Ali put in work💯💯💯
He said he wanted to go home AFTER working. Basically Ali is a 9-5 dude were nelly was a entertainer.
He didn't right Nelly hits that's cap
Ali you shoulda burnt out when Nelly told you "If I had 3 wishes my first wish would be for nobody else to have no more wishes"I would've been gone 😂🤦
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
yoooo😂😂😂
🚴🚴🏃🏃🏃🔥
Oh Nelly needed you come on bro 😂😂😂
This is why PAC the 🐐! The outlawz were childhood friends and family members. Pac always looked out for his homies. Pac would let everyone jump on his album. Thank you PAC for being THE GOAT!
Eminem also let D-12 shine
50 Cent put all of his homies and made sure they made millions
Pac was broke
So Ali is saying out of all the Lunatics Nelly had the fewest h03s 😅😂. I don't know about that one bro 😂😂😂
I can’t say what Ali is saying is all false, the truth probably falls somewhere in the middle. But I definitely see a lot of resentment and envy towards Nelly.
I'm hoping this is an old interview and he's not STILL bitter about not being signed. I would have been happy for my friend & rode with him
Imagine this guy dressed like Nelly singing country grammar 😂
Sounds like Ali needs a hug 😂😂
Ain't no way I could get up there spill like this
Nexy he finna be like "i put the bandaid on first."
Ali has had 4 or 5 deals even before nelly and none of his situations worked out the way he wanted. If i were nelly I wouldn't want ali managing me either.
Real question is why not book shows without nelly? They made enough hits to keep the train moving
I don't think ppl would be checking for them like that without Nelly.
You’re right
Somebody hit the button "congratulations you played yourself"
Ion put nun pass nobody but that don’t mean I’m gone do slime shhh 😂😂 this old man Wylin
Right. That mindset comes from your trust being violated by people you never thought would.
I’m getting Scottie Pippen vibes
Wow!
I’m shocked he would say that.
That’s sad that he’s not loyal.
What you mean
Most people look for guidance out of their big homie but this shit is crazy 🤯 Where is his accountability for ANYTHING 👀🙄😂
Damn bruh you can always tell the dudes who have to lie to themselves about how things actually went down, cause it's common fact that the group didn't make it if they didn't go all in on Nelly. Like bro, your biggest hit is a Nelly feature.
This is probly the best interview this dude has ever done for VLAD
Yeah it is
I don’t put anything past anybody either not because I would do them dirty but because I’ve been done dirty in the past by someone I thought would never do me dirty!
I know nelly mad as a fool watching this like we are.. headed strait to the Bentley store to drop that 200k he owe ali
How you know all about the business but get played 😂
So is Nelly supposed to coddle you for the mistakes you made!?
Exactly
I hope dude been telling the truth if not he the biggest HATER EVER in the history of HATING EVER fr
He's definitely cappin 🤣🤣
Nahhhhhh, this dont make NO sense!
NELLY screws you over in EVERY Clip and you ALWAYS take the high road.?!?!?!
"But the people highest up got the lowest self-esteem" - Kanye West.
So you saying the member who wore the mask self esteem was higher….I don’t believe that
😂
Slo down was actually pretty popular
Come on Nelly was and is the Super Star ⭐️ of that group play your position and you might’ve still been able to get a bag
anybody that says they don’t put nothing pass nobody. don’t trust their self. they know what they would do to you if they was in that situation
I just found a video where some guys from st Louis came to a radio station to press Ali kyjuan and Murphey Lee ( the guys were lame) but on that video they asked " who have nelly and st lunatic put on after they got famous" Kyjuan looked in the camera and said "with all honesty Nelly put us on universal did not want us" and guess who was right there agreeing...Ali. mind you these guys were pressing them in a lobby not interviewing them. So i agree with Murph they need to just sit amongst themselves and talk it out.
with that being his boy he made it to these heights with i don’t feel like that should be said
He look like the angry janitor in the hood who talk about all his middle school accolades. Cuz tripping
Damn he said my dog hav low self esteem now not my Scorpio brutta
On God I'ma Scorpio
This man hurt bad lol let it go brah. Tell wifey stop bringing that man up on y’all bed.
This is sad..Ali is out here taking credit for making Nelly, the St Lunatics, writing all the hits…if you did it once you can do it again! Put your talents & gifts to good use and show everyone..But what he’s doing is only making everything Nelly said sound truthful. Nelly is living rent free in his head. But what I know for sure, while this man is complaining & taking credit..Nelly is out here working..his tour schedule is full! Hard work+persistence=Star=$50M
I agree that Murphy Lee should of been bigger but Nelly explained that you chose to put you and Big Gipp album out before Murphy Lee 2nd when he had already proved he can stand on his own.
Mfs was supposed to break bread the right way smh 🤦♂️
Royalties come twice a year... He was getting paid on schedule, and didn't even have his publishing. Ali complains too much, and already said he's a Cancer... Him and Nelly are EMOTIONAL men, so u have to take some of it with a grain of salt. Ali is literally in his feelings, and lets them guide him too much tbh.
Gotta love when fanboys will ride with an artist they like whether right or wrong. I believe Ali is telling the truth in certain parts and Nelly the same. Just like in court, there’s 2 sides to a story and somewhere in the middle is the truth. Could Nelly be slime in certain ways? Absolutely. Could Ali have been too passive about his money? He was. Point is, stop riding with the more successful person just bc YOU like them or they inspire you. Seek to actually be non biased in situations and look for what’s actually right and true as opposed to siding with ppl based off feelings.
😂😂 exactly.. you know ppl believe the most popular or who they like and don't know nothing about nothing of wutz really goin on but if u frm u city and kno them u kno Ali was the head of the snake and the man wit the bars. But the fans don't know that, they only know what they'd seen on TV and that's Nelly. It was a long road way before that.💯
@@k-9inethaboss780 Bro! And they do this regularly like the artist knows them or will ever think about them or do anything beneficial for them in their life smh 🤦🏽♂️.
My question Is if Ali wants the lunatics together why don't he bring them together with out Nelly under a different group name??
Excellent question that was asked: Nelly is rich...so what benefit would it give him to hold Ali back this much. Unless Nelly is just an evil mf then it don't make sense. This where he lose me
@@sycomantzthat's different. 50 has a contract on Buck. Nelly never signed any of the Lunatics. They signed to Universal. The management company story seems like the company told him something just to get Nelly to sign. Once he was signed, they lied to him. Nelly doesn't own Maverick,l. Hell, he's not even the most popular act with the company. Even the Country Grammar publishing, that has nothing to do with Nelly. That's the label. The label didn't give him credit...
Damn Ali…no man can continue to stop another man from eating!
How does Nelly has the lowest self esteem and he's the richest and was in the spotlight the most that don't seem possible this seems personal to me
"the people highest up have the lowest self esteem. The prettiest people do the ugliest things. For the road to riches and diamond rings" - Kanye West.
So nelly got Ashanti with low self esteem ? 🤦🏽♂️
My homie left my ass 😅...he got a producer deal with Sony and was spose to bring me...soon as he got that 800,000$ check...I haven't heard from him since...I thought we was a team...but he showed my ass...😅
This is SAD ... Ali sounds bitter... all this goes off of emotion which is how Nelly said he was in the interview years back. If he allegedly wrote the entire Country Grammar album that was filled with hits then why couldn't he have done the same with his Heavy Starch album? Nelly repeated the success with Nellyville... I don't know trying to take credit for someone's success 23 years after the album dropped is bugged out. I wish these brothers the best and I hope that they resolve their issues.
Country Grammer went diamond 💎
Heavy Starch went aluminum 😅
Then thought Nelly pose to just carry him, there's no carrying no grown man
Nelly twirls 10 year old girls hair on stage and whispers in their ear, what do you expect
Lol this shows the lunatics was ALL jealous… do you see D12 out here crying em didn’t make them successful and Mr porter with em everywhere and d12 stay loyal …. Nelly never had real friends…. Ali said ima be alright lol the only reason anybody talking to u is to talk about Nelly lol this is funny
Seems like he wanted to ride Nelly coat tail instead of actually doing the work to get a deal.. 1 member shouldn’t have to oversee the well being of everybody in the group. And u can feel the envy coming from Ali
Im hearing niccaz saying they made HOV ok make another HOV!!! Lol lol