@@GlupShitto05 Imagine if it had been widely promoted, and featured on Premium Screens. It might've been #2 at The Box Office. My estimation: By May 6th, ROTJ's run will end, amassing around $11 to $15 Million Dollars, Domestically.
It is quite obvious that Finn wanted to say to Rey that he loved her but that idea got scraped and they forgot to reshoot that scene or got lazy, as the rest of the movie, and J.J. hoped everyone would believe that what he meant to say is that he was force sensitive. Geez, the love declaration was completely telegraphed throughout the whole movie, as well as with scenes on The Force Awakens.
This movie is doomed from the start in my eyes. If this movie doesn’t end up like solo and bombs at the box office but to an even more extreme degree I will be amazed…
@@marketingIdeaslol ya I’m sorry you really lost me when you said Rey’s a popular character. Look mate you like the character fine but I’m sorry as a fan of Lego as far as I can tell anything with the sequels doesn’t sell well most of the sequel era sets sold pretty poorly and Lego hasn’t made sets for them in quite some time. As far as I can tell a lot of people didn’t want them. Even at the height of prequel hate Lego still made sets for them. Also wether you like it or not rey is biologically a palpatine and that’s something declaring herself a skywalker will never change…
@@Raygo. the difference is that now, this isn’t directly attached to the “Star Wars” title, and we all know the response to those films. The reason they succeeded at the box office was cause people are required to pay first before experiencing it.
Thats why she didn't train any apprentices.. she was just girl bossing over the entire galaxy until a new serious threat emerges and she's like ok my time is almost up, lemme pass on my epic greatness now.. lol. Joking aside, Rey is a terrible character, but its Darth Kennedy's self insert character so of course Rey would be coming back..
I just about choked on my water when you said "Path of Vengeance " and I had to do a double take. Path of Vengeance was the name of a fan film I made a few years back lol
They’re gonna rush out the movie, it’s gonna suck and they’re gonna blame the fans for hating the ST. It’s just a play by Kennedy to keep her job at the expense of these young actors careers.
I was waiting for the _lightning take_ on the Lindelof story. Anymore with every movie announcement from DLF I revert to the proverbial _I got a bad feeling about this._ I guess anymore it's just wait and see.
So one day while cruising about the galaxy, Rey flubs the Hyperdrive calculations and inadvertantly comes out of Hyperspace a little too close to a black hole. She manages to get a jump into Hyperspace in the knick of time before getting sucked in, however upon arriving at the nearest civilized planet she notices that the entire galaxy has changed and everyone she knows has long passed away. No one alive knows who she is, or believes that she is who she claims she is: that she indeed is the one Rey Skywalker who mysteriously vanished without a trace 60 years ago. Indeed she then realizes that what had been seconds around the black hole had in fact been decades across the galaxy. She must now begin anew...
Even the Lucasfilm crew and the KK cronies know that Rey is a disaster character that the public doesn't like... But the people in charge keep forcing her and the Sequels to appear in everything. It would be like HBO's Board of Directors insisting on putting Jared Leto's Joker in every product. This is so weird. Why can't they let it go? It's been 6 years since TLJ and 4 years since TROS and neither Rey nor the Sequels developed anything like a "cult following". I mean the "polite applause" Daisy Ridley received at Star Wars Celebration wasn't exactly a crowd going wild signifying mass interest.
Such a shame. Lindelof is a MASSIVE life-long Star Wars fan. His lucky shirt that he was wearing when he interviewed with JJ Abrahms for a the writing gig on LOST was his Bantha Tracks T-shirt. Bantha Tracks was the official Star Wars Fan club newsletter back in the 80's. As a big LOST fan I was pretty excited to see what he might do with/in the Star Wars universe.
@@donkeysaurusrex7881 Well, that wasn't Lindelof, it was Ridley Scott the director who did that. Lindelof re-wrote the existing script that had the space jockey stuff in it. Scott told him what he wanted not the other way around. LOST, the Leftovers and The Watchmen were all great, well reviewed and critically acclaimed.
@@marketingIdeaslol because it's on a downright trajectory and many people are slowly realizing that hitting the bottom of the barrel might be the only way up.
I am cautiously pessimistic... (Trying real hard not to have ANY hope in the new movie) If it ends up even just good and interesting I will be blown away.
It would be cheaper to just say KK went rogue and this nonsense isn't happening, but I guess Disney has grown fond of flushing money down the toilet. Bring it on! This will be epic....ly bad.
I’d actually be pretty interested in a Jedi Finn movie, just as long as it doesn’t suck… it would make sense to have his story continue soon after the sequel trilogy, and would feel less like just trying to “fix” the sequels than a Rey-focused movie would.
So here’s my way to early guess at the story based on Boyega and Ray coming back. Finn is gonna self train himself, and he’ll be one of these Grey Force users they try to keep making. Ray will new Jedi including Grogu, but he’s gonna be dark side real quick since he was raised by Mandalorians but worse still trained by Luke (and that point will be harped on). Grogu will kill the other students despite Ray seemingly sacrificing herself to try to save them. This will be the first in a trilogy, and in the second movie Ray is alive and uninjured. At the end Finn kills Grogu, but not before acknowledging Ray should be a better Force user than him but her failings are really Luke’s failings in training her. The Jedi are destroyed, and Finn and Ray will train some totally much cooler Force users who don’t follow stupid Jedi rules. Maybe they’ll even acknowledge that this is what the Knights of aren really believed.
Super stoked for Visions vol 2. Since I work in animation, I know the work of at least half of the studios involved, and boy ! You guys are not ready ! I've been looking forward to this ever since I saw the studios list last year ! Watch out especially to the work of Ireland's Cartoon Saloon, one of the best 2D movies studios in the world (Secret of Kells, Song of the sea, Breadwinner, Wolfwalker), S.Korea's studio Mir, the studio that animated the whole series of Avatar The Last Airbender, and most of the legend of Korra, and France's Studio La Cachette, basically the future french Ghibli.
I am so looking forward to seeing what happens with Visions this time around (also, workers in animation are never paid enough for what they're able to do, but that's another story)
Disney (corporate/Kennedy) involvement is the death of Star Wars. Lucas selling off the property will go down as one of the biggest business mistakes ever recorded.
@@achaudhari101 More saying, facetiously, that most Disney/Lucasfilm productions are pretty subpar, and I'd say most of the great ideas and stories have been rejected in favour of the dross we eventually got with the sequel trilogy, Obi-Wan Kenobi, The Book of Boba Fett and the third season of The Mandalorian. Only Rogue One and Andor have been genuinely great. I'm not counting season 7 of The Clone Wars since that story was set in motion before the Disney acquisition.
Tbh this is old news but I just find it awesome Lindelof came up with the idea of "Old Rey" 😂, because its just goes beautifully against Disney and all their Pretty, Petite, Perfect "Disney Princess" Ideogy lol. Oh and I mean Disney are really NOT Ageist at all are they! This is the big problem Disney are heading towards if they carry on with this attitude, in hiring then firing writers they're gonna end up with quite the reputation in Hollywood and it'll get where no writers will want to work for them. Sure there's enough "Writers" in Hollywood, but theres not alot of Talented Writers, especially the big names with loads of experience. If Disney keep this up all these truly talented writers will just hear about what Disney are like as a company to work for and they'll just choose to avoid them, going for work somewhere else; and Disney well they'll just end up stuck with talentless hacks, desperate for work like those 2 idiots who had been trying to get their scripts bought by studios in Hollywood for like 9 yrs and nothing. I mean them 2 guys who co-wrote the disaster Rings of Power LOTR series. Disney better fix up soon and stop being picky with these writers they keep hiring and stop firing them after they turn in just one Draft, because one day they're gonna end up in a position where they simply wont be able to be picky and fussy.
Luke escapes from the prison he's been in for 20 years and finds out Han's been murdered and his sister is dead. Rey was tricked by imposter Luke and taken charge of the Jedi, while actually moving everyone to the Dark Side. She's the spawn of Palpatine, so she's OBVIOUSLY a Sith. Luke defeats her at the end and begins training the new Jedi order.
Why do people complain about Disney not creating a sequel that takes place much closer on the timeline to ROTJ? The original cast had aged 30+ years since ROTJ. So, Disney told a story that takes place 30+ years following ROTJ. Could Disney have told a story that takes place a few years after ROTJ? Yes, of course. Could Disney have told a story that takes place a few years after ROTJ with the original cast? Of course, not. Disney would have had to recast the entire original cast.
Thor & Naboo, do you guys buy the books and comics physical versions or digital? Also, do you guys get all the Hasbro figures you guys announce here or just the ones you like? I’m starting to look into collectibles so I’m just curious about how you guys go about comics and figures.
We have all the books and comics in physical form. Also we buy (almost) all the Black Series figures. The only ones we don't get are strange repaints and such... like Carbonized and things like that.
The problem here is that Disney are hiring people who do not understand the Star Wars universe at all, I mean I get it, to them Star Wars is just a money making tree and they don’t really care much about the story but rather the revenue they will get at the end of the day. However I believe that if you actually decided to care about the story and it’s fanbase you’d probably make twice the money your already making with these terrible movies. Just a thought.
Just saw ROTJ in theaters, when Palpatine dies I couldn’t help myself. I shouted out “somehow he’ll return”. Whole theater started laughing. As funny as it was I couldn’t help but feel a gut punch knowing what Disney did to this franchise. ROTJ wasnt a perfect film but it had depth and emotion. Aside from some of EP 7. I didn’t feel anything watching the sequels.
An 80 year old Rey teaching two new padawans. It might have worked. Jumping forward in time and having Rey played by another older actress may have been a way to heal the anger and disgust caused by the sequels, and start a new saga in a new era. It's a viable approach, anyway. But no, that would be like admitting Kathleen Kennedy made a mistake. Better to fire Lindelof and hire someone who will write exactly what Kennedy wants. There is the question of why they hired Lindelof and let him work for a year if it wasn't an approach Kennedy favored, but I'm getting the impression she was checked out of the movie-making process for some time. Now she's back and determined to release another "masterpiece" by December of next year, so this project is getting her full attention.
What? Where is your sense of subverting expectations? Imagine 80 year old Rey living on a desert world with a house full of cats, living off a stew made of wamp rats and fungi from the water condensers. Hearing voices and seeing hallucinations of Jedi from the past. Disney would love it.
The only reason to bring back Finn, from the Story Group's perspective, is to kill him for his blasphem--I mean... to show the threat is really serious! Maybe in the first five minutes after the crawl!
5:34 Well i mean for them to see the actual script from Damon Lindelof then they decided 'err no thanx' lol, that just tells you how bad Lindelof is as a writer lol. I kept saying hes a hack! But that is insightful actually what Naboo is saying, that if that is true and Disney actually rushed the whole negotiation process along of bringing back Daisy Ridley, just so they had some big "Anoubcement" for 23 Celebration; this should really tell the *Sequels Fans* most of all that Disney have NOT learned a damn thing since TROS. And that in truth they havnt even planned anythinv out carefully, they're just basically winging it. Disney have no clue and no Respect for the Brand whatsoever this should be obvious now to most fans.
If John boyega doesn't want to return I hope they have it so finn settled down with Jannah and he was able to escape the life of a soldier and just life a peaceful life as a family man
Why don't they rebuild the Jedi Academy? Rey could be a great Jedi Mentor, occasionally taking star pupils or even poorly performing ones out, testing them in real-world situations. Jedi Academy would have the elements of a school and the challenges of a Police Force, the task the Jedi were initially asked to perform. Bounty Hunters, Remnant trash, and Ex-Imperial or Sith Criminal gangs could provide plenty of baddies for them to fight against as the New Republic extends its rule over the Galaxy.
Maybe it's not that they didn't like the DL script. Maybe it was because KK and others decided they wanted their next big film to be led by a female director (one who is pretty outspoken in opinions) and that they wanted Daisey to really work. They banked a lot on the sequels, they're going to make it solid.
I have to say, after watching other SW channels I'm surprised by the furore over Lindelof. This sort of thing happens often with big studios (writers' rooms are set up, scripts are written but writers aren't often retained), so love or loathe her, I do think Kathleen Jennedy gets a bad rap here. And then there's Lindelof himself and his cache within the fantasy fan community. Sometimes you just have to admit that he might not be THAT good and he isn't immune to situations where his ideas don't mesh with studio management. But I do agree this is happening regularly with SW and Lucasfilm, on balance a little too regularly. The problem is everything is aired so publicly, and SW is under such a microscope that any change in writers or ditching of scripts is overblown and becomes big news when, in all reality, it's just not that big a deal (it would be even less of a big deal if the series they've produced were any good, too, let's face it). What Lucasfilm needs to do is stop announcing things to appease fans until they're absolutely ready, that's something they really have been guilty of. This comes down to marketing and PR. That needs to be (and can be) waaaaay better imo.
Im sorry guys but the notion that Finn was going to tell Rey he's Force Sensitive when they were sinking...doesn't make sense. If he was, then use the flippin Force right then! (It was 90% he was talking about something else) To be fair, maybe he wasn't Force Sensitive enough in that moment to pull them out, but you'd think he'd really be concentrating on at least trying to pull them out in those short few seconds they had, rather than blathering said hypothetical sensitivity to Rey.
I am surprised you guys were so against the older rey movie. Personally I thought of that as a perfect way to retcon the sequels without retconning them, just completing wiping the slate with the story of the sequels and immediately start again with new characters. As long as the movie itself was structurally sound and well made i would be completely willing look past the weird inconsistencies of not restarting the order for 60 years if it meant we were done with sequel era content.
Lindelof stated how he thinks Yoda would have said "try, try again" (or rather 'again try, try) to him after being fired. That alone tells us that him being nowhere near any star wars project is a HUGE blessing. Yoda would not say that! In fact, he has specifically said the *opposite!* "Do or do not. There is no try". Lindelof should seek a different career for somehow misinterpreting that.
60 years after episode 9? That makes no sense, a post episode 9 movie should take place e media they after it, I thought it was gonna he 15 years the first time I heard about this film in Star Wars celebration.
so 60 is old for us humans but for jedi you can add 50 to 100 years onto the human lifespan depending on how strong they are they can easily hit the 300s and that not counting if they have any alien DNA in there maybe they have a bit of Grogu in her? if soo that could maybe add 200 years onto a human life?
We're talking 60 years after the Sequels... thus making Rey 80. Jedi or not, that's not young and there's no reason not to just have Rey be the age that Daisy Ridley more or less is right now.
Star Wars fans don't realise it but they dodged a bullet with Lindelof being let go. His work on the Watchmen and Alien franchises prove he's not the right man for Star Wars not even Disney Star Wars.
Star Wars is dead. There have been a few times where some life has been injected but in the end the doctors couldn’t save it. Now rigor mortis is setting in.
That's good. Damon Lindelof is a terrible writer. He never wrote a good movie/show in his life. And of course he worked on multiple projects with Bad Robot which if that's not a red flag I don't know what is.
It is in no way “weird” that someone is hired to write a script and a studio rejects there script! Happens all the time! Remember these are $250 million films! They are not going to green light a script they don’t believe in! Even if it’s Damon Lindelof and they’ve already paid him a million dollars to write the script!
@@thorskywalkerplus I don’t think so! Maybe the directors being fired mid film is weird! But writers leaving projects happens all the time! There are even script doctors brought in all the time to fix scripts! I think Lucasfilm is just being super cautious of the films right now because of the failure of Solo!
Let us be honest... The sequel movies only care about adding new powers. Give it a movie and Rey shall Gove both to the light side of the force... The literal light side of the force as a female girl. Give it two movies and she will be able to blow planets up with the force. Give it three movies and she can reverse planets that had been blown up and restore them to normal. Rey is the Mary Sue character that thinks more powers make her more special and can fix any lack of character direction, personality, or plot issues.
In Canon comic Luke already rebuilt the order, it's even in the old video games. Jedi knight academy, with Kyle Katarn. Rey could've had the baton passed to her by older Luke in a constructive, purposeful move. Castrating Luke's character along with every main male character was TOTALLY uncalled for, unless Kathleen & Co. did it on purpose for 'the force is female' type reasons. I have 0 faith or interest in upcoming movies. If Dave Filoni and/or Jon Favreau aren't involved, it'll be a sacrifice on the altar of feminism. Disney is putting star wars in the gutter.
Damon has many successful projects under his belt and Disney’s Lucasfilm does not. The script was probably good, he did a phenomenal job with the 30 year time jump for Watchmen 2019. His endings haven’t always been good, but after broom boy Lucasfilm has proven far worse taste and bad judgment. I imagine if Boyega does return, it will be teasing a sequel where he continues what Rey was teaching, or is of an alternative philosophy regarding the force and its wielders.
Daisy Ridley was a total disaster in the first 3 sequels , so why not let the train wreck continue ? This wreck is going to make Palestine Ohio look like a garden of eden.
Kennedy changed her mind when she found out that Ridley would return. I cant believe anyone would come back after trashing disney. Boyega needs to keep his integrity and move on, they burned his character. Reys movie is too soon and will seem like a continuance of the garbage sequels. Shes you g enough to wait. Lets do a couple movies between jedi and force awakens. How about a stand alone skywalker movie with a young ben solo? Again i say use the world between worlds in a marvel fashion and change the timeline. Save Windu to the present. Build the order. Ezra ahsoka kal force ghosts etc. then show the fall of Ben Solo with some of the sequels parts and then have dark jedi and unknown sith arrive with Thrawn. If you need a cloned palpatine then he should face Windu again!
Okay, I usually don't mind you both speculating on thigs, but you have made so many wild assumptions here. There is barely any concrete information, the tiniest of scraps. And obsessing over the "60 years" thing is weird. Rey could have been teaching Jedi all that time, or some of that time, but the movie would be set 60 years later. Who knows? none of us read Damon's pitch or his script drafts. Which is a shame because he is a very skilled script-writer. I'd be interested in seeing his vision of improving the mess that are the sequels. Also, I highly doubt John Boyega would want to come back. I would not if I were him.
There's barely any concrete information... thus any speculating is indeed going to be "wild". That's a given. And what we were, um, "obsessing over" was more the stupidity of making Rey some 80 year old woman when Daisy Ridley is 30 and could be playing the character in the prime of her life. That just doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense. And apparently Disney/Lucasfilm ultimately agreed and scrapped the idea.
I mean, clearly something happened & as long as it's not direct communication from the sources, all we have is speculation. Part of what drives traffic on RUclips is speculation on IP (now some of it is outrageous & some comes in more of a measured tone like this) What I would say is that if people think it's going to fail, it's underestimating as significant of an IP as we've ever seen. There is an industry out here based on hate for KK (& trust, I get it cause that sequel trilogy mess, my word!) But the reality is projects like Andor happened because of her existing relationship with Tony Gilroy. What some people think of her the industry for the large part doesn't - she brings in money & talent Yes, Disney is in layoff mode but people, welcome to a recession in the economy overall. Whoemver is writing for this character simply needs to look at what Andor's creators & actors did to know that there's a harmonious balance there of action + story that can be told with her character (A character that a lot of kids have now grown up with - don't underestimate that bond) If they do that, it will succeed.
But the question is, can they use the method when they went for Andor, aka the project nobody had wanted or expected? I mean, I didn't care too much about Rogue One cast, I thought they didn't have anything to make them stand put, but at the very least they were one offs as I could see them as the entire galaxy forgot about them.
I can't believe u guys want/hyped for Fin. He sucked !!!!! Maybe not his fault but he was a fkn janitor storm trooper and a clown. Smh... doesn't matter to me cuz I won't watch it. N I can say that confidently bcuz I never finished last jedi or seen ROS.
I just can't bring myself to have feelings about anything related to this (possible) new film. Every new detail I hear is just more and more "meh". 😐🙄🥱
@@achaudhari101 Um, no. I really don't. Unless 🥱 is a feeling. [Spoiler alert: more here to enjoy than Sequel Sequel news.] ps: better stick to twisting balloon animals. You'll never make it as a mentalist.
@@QuestionMan There is more than the Rey movie to enjoy Star Wars, you’re just very lazy. Balloon animals? Are you sure you’re not the one that needs therapy.
Don’t forget ROTJ is in theaters. Last day is 5/4. No posters for it, even at Disney Springs. No promo for it whatsoever.
Just saw it at AMC. Everyone clapped at the ending and I was packed. What a movie.
God I hate what Disney did lol.
we saw it on Saturday in a packed theater. Thunderous applause at the end. Hate what Disney did to those characters.
@@DABIGBOOMER they add deleted scenes?
And it has made 5 million in box office this weekend without any promotion😂
@@GlupShitto05 Imagine if it had been widely promoted, and featured on Premium Screens. It might've been #2 at The Box Office. My estimation: By May 6th, ROTJ's run will end, amassing around $11 to $15 Million Dollars, Domestically.
Maybe he was going to do a dirty on her like they did to Luke and KK couldn’t have that!
Hearing they rushed to put together the deal/announcement for Celebration already says it all. K.K. will just never learn.
Yeah. The rumor is that Kennedy must have a Star Wars theatrical release ready by 2025, or her contract won't be renewed.
Definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result 😂
Leave Her alone. She saved Star Wars.
@@Azrael__ Dream on she ruined it
When someone isn’t allowed to face the consequences of of their actions do they learn from failure? No no they do not
It is quite obvious that Finn wanted to say to Rey that he loved her but that idea got scraped and they forgot to reshoot that scene or got lazy, as the rest of the movie, and J.J. hoped everyone would believe that what he meant to say is that he was force sensitive. Geez, the love declaration was completely telegraphed throughout the whole movie, as well as with scenes on The Force Awakens.
This movie is doomed from the start in my eyes. If this movie doesn’t end up like solo and bombs at the box office but to an even more extreme degree I will be amazed…
The other Rey movies made BIG profits, so don't get your hopes up.
I think you might be surprised. Rey is a very popular character so I’m sure she’ll get good numbers. Plus she’s a skywlaker
@@Raygo. the brand made a profit with two movies and barely broke even on a third
@@marketingIdeaslol ya I’m sorry you really lost me when you said Rey’s a popular character. Look mate you like the character fine but I’m sorry as a fan of Lego as far as I can tell anything with the sequels doesn’t sell well most of the sequel era sets sold pretty poorly and Lego hasn’t made sets for them in quite some time. As far as I can tell a lot of people didn’t want them. Even at the height of prequel hate Lego still made sets for them. Also wether you like it or not rey is biologically a palpatine and that’s something declaring herself a skywalker will never change…
@@Raygo. the difference is that now, this isn’t directly attached to the “Star Wars” title, and we all know the response to those films. The reason they succeeded at the box office was cause people are required to pay first before experiencing it.
I will brutally honest, I have no faith in the sequel movie. I have far more faith on the other two movies announced.
How is that brutally honest? That’s literally every other opinion hahahah
60 years of training? Why? Couldn't she already do everything and better since Episode 7?
Thats why she didn't train any apprentices.. she was just girl bossing over the entire galaxy until a new serious threat emerges and she's like ok my time is almost up, lemme pass on my epic greatness now.. lol.
Joking aside, Rey is a terrible character, but its Darth Kennedy's self insert character so of course Rey would be coming back..
Seems like Disney/LucasFilm have no problems firing or parting ways with everyone, except for the one woman they should have fired years ago.
When you said "Starkiller" is coming to Lego Star Wars, I misunderstood and got my hopes up that it was Force Unleashed DLC.
I just about choked on my water when you said "Path of Vengeance " and I had to do a double take.
Path of Vengeance was the name of a fan film I made a few years back lol
They’re gonna rush out the movie, it’s gonna suck and they’re gonna blame the fans for hating the ST. It’s just a play by Kennedy to keep her job at the expense of these young actors careers.
I was waiting for the _lightning take_ on the Lindelof story. Anymore with every movie announcement from DLF I revert to the proverbial _I got a bad feeling about this._ I guess anymore it's just wait and see.
So one day while cruising about the galaxy, Rey flubs the Hyperdrive calculations and inadvertantly comes out of Hyperspace a little too close to a black hole. She manages to get a jump into Hyperspace in the knick of time before getting sucked in, however upon arriving at the nearest civilized planet she notices that the entire galaxy has changed and everyone she knows has long passed away. No one alive knows who she is, or believes that she is who she claims she is: that she indeed is the one Rey Skywalker who mysteriously vanished without a trace 60 years ago. Indeed she then realizes that what had been seconds around the black hole had in fact been decades across the galaxy. She must now begin anew...
Even the Lucasfilm crew and the KK cronies know that Rey is a disaster character that the public doesn't like... But the people in charge keep forcing her and the Sequels to appear in everything. It would be like HBO's Board of Directors insisting on putting Jared Leto's Joker in every product. This is so weird. Why can't they let it go? It's been 6 years since TLJ and 4 years since TROS and neither Rey nor the Sequels developed anything like a "cult following". I mean the "polite applause" Daisy Ridley received at Star Wars Celebration wasn't exactly a crowd going wild signifying mass interest.
KK would never have more Luke.
Recently, since finding out all roads lead to the sequel trilogy. I have been showing my kids Robot Head videos..
You mean the same fool that thinks the Ahsoka show is by gynocentric and refuses to watch the animated shows? Yeah you’re not very bright.
I'm actively rooting against this film. I hope if crashes and burns. I'm guessing the RT scores will be more entertaining than the movie itself.
Never go full retard.
I think it will sink to levels deeper than the titanic. I’m not just saying this because I hate the sequels but I can see this happening…
@@Milothemighty10 Or we can wait and see instead of being vengeful.
Such a shame. Lindelof is a MASSIVE life-long Star Wars fan. His lucky shirt that he was wearing when he interviewed with JJ Abrahms for a the writing gig on LOST was his Bantha Tracks T-shirt. Bantha Tracks was the official Star Wars Fan club newsletter back in the 80's. As a big LOST fan I was pretty excited to see what he might do with/in the Star Wars universe.
How can you be a fan of mystery boxes?
As a big Aliens fan, I’m glad the guy who destroyed the Space Jockeys won’t be anywhere near SW. Lindelof is hack.
@@donkeysaurusrex7881 Well, that wasn't Lindelof, it was Ridley Scott the director who did that. Lindelof re-wrote the existing script that had the space jockey stuff in it. Scott told him what he wanted not the other way around.
LOST, the Leftovers and The Watchmen were all great, well reviewed and critically acclaimed.
@@Hello-bi1pm You are confusing JJ with Lindelof there buddy. All of the relevant mysteries in LOST were answered.
@@troubleondemand7703 I thought people hate the LOST ending.
What is more likely to happen? Rey Movie getting canceled or it completely flopping at the box office? I hope it’s the latter.
Why do you hope for the failure of Star Wars? You must hate Star Wars
I don't think it'll go past pre-production rbh
@@marketingIdeaslolhey how's that Lando show coming Along? Or Droids? Oh Oh! What about Rogue Squadron? Now those are surely coming out soon....not
@@marketingIdeaslol no I like Star Wars, sequels aren’t that though
@@marketingIdeaslol because it's on a downright trajectory and many people are slowly realizing that hitting the bottom of the barrel might be the only way up.
JJ and Ryan J should be banished from Star Wars for ever
I am cautiously pessimistic... (Trying real hard not to have ANY hope in the new movie) If it ends up even just good and interesting I will be blown away.
Odds are it won't be made.
Does Naboo write the subtitles for these videos?
"Now welcome to another edition of News from Naboo with the worst lightning takes"
It would be cheaper to just say KK went rogue and this nonsense isn't happening, but I guess Disney has grown fond of flushing money down the toilet. Bring it on! This will be epic....ly bad.
I’d actually be pretty interested in a Jedi Finn movie, just as long as it doesn’t suck… it would make sense to have his story continue soon after the sequel trilogy, and would feel less like just trying to “fix” the sequels than a Rey-focused movie would.
So here’s my way to early guess at the story based on Boyega and Ray coming back. Finn is gonna self train himself, and he’ll be one of these Grey Force users they try to keep making. Ray will new Jedi including Grogu, but he’s gonna be dark side real quick since he was raised by Mandalorians but worse still trained by Luke (and that point will be harped on). Grogu will kill the other students despite Ray seemingly sacrificing herself to try to save them. This will be the first in a trilogy, and in the second movie Ray is alive and uninjured. At the end Finn kills Grogu, but not before acknowledging Ray should be a better Force user than him but her failings are really Luke’s failings in training her. The Jedi are destroyed, and Finn and Ray will train some totally much cooler Force users who don’t follow stupid Jedi rules. Maybe they’ll even acknowledge that this is what the Knights of aren really believed.
Super stoked for Visions vol 2.
Since I work in animation, I know the work of at least half of the studios involved, and boy ! You guys are not ready !
I've been looking forward to this ever since I saw the studios list last year !
Watch out especially to the work of Ireland's Cartoon Saloon, one of the best 2D movies studios in the world (Secret of Kells, Song of the sea, Breadwinner, Wolfwalker), S.Korea's studio Mir, the studio that animated the whole series of Avatar The Last Airbender, and most of the legend of Korra, and France's Studio La Cachette, basically the future french Ghibli.
I am so looking forward to seeing what happens with Visions this time around (also, workers in animation are never paid enough for what they're able to do, but that's another story)
oh yeah I will love seeing that
I've lost all hope for Disney to get their stuff together and have a new Star Wars film in theaters. Let alone begin working on one.
Disney (corporate/Kennedy) involvement is the death of Star Wars. Lucas selling off the property will go down as one of the biggest business mistakes ever recorded.
I mean to be fair, Lucasfilm being bought by a bigger company isn't new. There was Fox Production I think had Lucasfilm before.
The fact that they fired him suggests to me that it might have actually been good.
An elderly Rey? I doubt it unless you were happy she was old so she would die in the movie.
@@achaudhari101 More saying, facetiously, that most Disney/Lucasfilm productions are pretty subpar, and I'd say most of the great ideas and stories have been rejected in favour of the dross we eventually got with the sequel trilogy, Obi-Wan Kenobi, The Book of Boba Fett and the third season of The Mandalorian. Only Rogue One and Andor have been genuinely great. I'm not counting season 7 of The Clone Wars since that story was set in motion before the Disney acquisition.
@@JohnSheppard1 Mandalorian is still good so that part is not absolute.
Tbh this is old news but
I just find it awesome Lindelof came up with the idea of "Old Rey" 😂, because its just goes beautifully against Disney and all their Pretty, Petite, Perfect "Disney Princess" Ideogy lol.
Oh and I mean Disney are really NOT Ageist at all are they! This is the big problem Disney are heading towards if they carry on with this attitude, in hiring then firing writers they're gonna end up with quite the reputation in Hollywood and it'll get where no writers will want to work for them.
Sure there's enough "Writers" in Hollywood, but theres not alot of Talented Writers, especially the big names with loads of experience. If Disney keep this up all these truly talented writers will just hear about what Disney are like as a company to work for and they'll just choose to avoid them, going for work somewhere else; and Disney well they'll just end up stuck with talentless hacks, desperate for work like those 2 idiots who had been trying to get their scripts bought by studios in Hollywood for like 9 yrs and nothing. I mean them 2 guys who co-wrote the disaster Rings of Power LOTR series.
Disney better fix up soon and stop being picky with these writers they keep hiring and stop firing them after they turn in just one Draft, because one day they're gonna end up in a position where they simply wont be able to be picky and fussy.
I wouldn't have minded an elderly Rey, it actually sounds way more interesting than whatever they're planning now
Me too. That could still happen but it should be a video game like swtor or jedi survivor
2:29 The summary doesn't say the new trainees (60 years later) are Rey's very first students.
Those Disney 100 OT releases make me want to cry.
Luke escapes from the prison he's been in for 20 years and finds out Han's been murdered and his sister is dead. Rey was tricked by imposter Luke and taken charge of the Jedi, while actually moving everyone to the Dark Side. She's the spawn of Palpatine, so she's OBVIOUSLY a Sith. Luke defeats her at the end and begins training the new Jedi order.
Damn hope we see the original script in a film or series down the line. At least Dawn of the Jedi and Ashoka look interesting
Why do people complain about Disney not creating a sequel that takes place much closer on the timeline to ROTJ?
The original cast had aged 30+ years since ROTJ. So, Disney told a story that takes place 30+ years following ROTJ.
Could Disney have told a story that takes place a few years after ROTJ? Yes, of course.
Could Disney have told a story that takes place a few years after ROTJ with the original cast? Of course, not. Disney would have had to recast the entire original cast.
Maybe Palpatine is back after 60 years!!!
Starwars Cremation. Where Star wars dies. Every one of these Disney Star Wars writers drink Bud Light😂😂😂
Thor & Naboo, do you guys buy the books and comics physical versions or digital?
Also, do you guys get all the Hasbro figures you guys announce here or just the ones you like?
I’m starting to look into collectibles so I’m just curious about how you guys go about comics and figures.
We have all the books and comics in physical form. Also we buy (almost) all the Black Series figures. The only ones we don't get are strange repaints and such... like Carbonized and things like that.
@@thorskywalkerplus I see. Do you keep them in the package or open them?
The problem here is that Disney are hiring people who do not understand the Star Wars universe at all, I mean I get it, to them Star Wars is just a money making tree and they don’t really care much about the story but rather the revenue they will get at the end of the day. However I believe that if you actually decided to care about the story and it’s fanbase you’d probably make twice the money your already making with these terrible movies. Just a thought.
Just saw ROTJ in theaters, when Palpatine dies I couldn’t help myself. I shouted out “somehow he’ll return”. Whole theater started laughing. As funny as it was I couldn’t help but feel a gut punch knowing what Disney did to this franchise. ROTJ wasnt a perfect film but it had depth and emotion. Aside from some of EP 7. I didn’t feel anything watching the sequels.
An 80 year old Rey teaching two new padawans. It might have worked. Jumping forward in time and having Rey played by another older actress may have been a way to heal the anger and disgust caused by the sequels, and start a new saga in a new era. It's a viable approach, anyway.
But no, that would be like admitting Kathleen Kennedy made a mistake. Better to fire Lindelof and hire someone who will write exactly what Kennedy wants.
There is the question of why they hired Lindelof and let him work for a year if it wasn't an approach Kennedy favored, but I'm getting the impression she was checked out of the movie-making process for some time. Now she's back and determined to release another "masterpiece" by December of next year, so this project is getting her full attention.
What's going on at Disney the people in charge are off their rockers
It's me or Naboo forgot Young Jedi Adventure ???
This is the movie I hope get cancelled, it would be a stab in the face if Rey get to rebuild the order on film.
Luke or bust.
What? Where is your sense of subverting expectations? Imagine 80 year old Rey living on a desert world with a house full of cats, living off a stew made of wamp rats and fungi from the water condensers. Hearing voices and seeing hallucinations of Jedi from the past. Disney would love it.
They should just have Finn be the main character screw Rey Sue
Maybe Rey's two apprentices were the latest apprentices. There were others she trained in the decades previously.
Let me guess.... "Creative differences"
The only reason to bring back Finn, from the Story Group's perspective, is to kill him for his blasphem--I mean... to show the threat is really serious! Maybe in the first five minutes after the crawl!
Pfft.....training is overrated anyway!
You guys actually got survivor running?
5:34 Well i mean for them to see the actual script from Damon Lindelof then they decided 'err no thanx' lol, that just tells you how bad Lindelof is as a writer lol. I kept saying hes a hack!
But that is insightful actually what Naboo is saying, that if that is true and Disney actually rushed the whole negotiation process along of bringing back Daisy Ridley, just so they had some big "Anoubcement" for 23 Celebration; this should really tell the *Sequels Fans* most of all that Disney have NOT learned a damn thing since TROS.
And that in truth they havnt even planned anythinv out carefully, they're just basically winging it. Disney have no clue and no Respect for the Brand whatsoever this should be obvious now to most fans.
If John boyega doesn't want to return
I hope they have it so finn settled down with Jannah and he was able to escape the life of a soldier and just life a peaceful life as a family man
When people are familiar with his work, they are gonna ask him to leave.
Why don't they rebuild the Jedi Academy? Rey could be a great Jedi Mentor, occasionally taking star pupils or even poorly performing ones out, testing them in real-world situations. Jedi Academy would have the elements of a school and the challenges of a Police Force, the task the Jedi were initially asked to perform. Bounty Hunters, Remnant trash, and Ex-Imperial or Sith Criminal gangs could provide plenty of baddies for them to fight against as the New Republic extends its rule over the Galaxy.
Maybe it's not that they didn't like the DL script. Maybe it was because KK and others decided they wanted their next big film to be led by a female director (one who is pretty outspoken in opinions) and that they wanted Daisey to really work. They banked a lot on the sequels, they're going to make it solid.
Well, you'd have to do something extreme if you're trying to course correct
Who says Finn is force sensitive?
The only way a new movie works is to completely dismiss Episodes 8 and 9, then remake them.
I have to say, after watching other SW channels I'm surprised by the furore over Lindelof. This sort of thing happens often with big studios (writers' rooms are set up, scripts are written but writers aren't often retained), so love or loathe her, I do think Kathleen Jennedy gets a bad rap here. And then there's Lindelof himself and his cache within the fantasy fan community. Sometimes you just have to admit that he might not be THAT good and he isn't immune to situations where his ideas don't mesh with studio management. But I do agree this is happening regularly with SW and Lucasfilm, on balance a little too regularly. The problem is everything is aired so publicly, and SW is under such a microscope that any change in writers or ditching of scripts is overblown and becomes big news when, in all reality, it's just not that big a deal (it would be even less of a big deal if the series they've produced were any good, too, let's face it). What Lucasfilm needs to do is stop announcing things to appease fans until they're absolutely ready, that's something they really have been guilty of. This comes down to marketing and PR. That needs to be (and can be) waaaaay better imo.
Im sorry guys but the notion that Finn was going to tell Rey he's Force Sensitive when they were sinking...doesn't make sense. If he was, then use the flippin Force right then! (It was 90% he was talking about something else) To be fair, maybe he wasn't Force Sensitive enough in that moment to pull them out, but you'd think he'd really be concentrating on at least trying to pull them out in those short few seconds they had, rather than blathering said hypothetical sensitivity to Rey.
An elderly Rey...that's interesting. Wouldn't the sequels have been nice if we had an elderly Leia with her two apprentices Finn and Rey?
I am surprised you guys were so against the older rey movie. Personally I thought of that as a perfect way to retcon the sequels without retconning them, just completing wiping the slate with the story of the sequels and immediately start again with new characters. As long as the movie itself was structurally sound and well made i would be completely willing look past the weird inconsistencies of not restarting the order for 60 years if it meant we were done with sequel era content.
Lindelof stated how he thinks Yoda would have said "try, try again" (or rather 'again try, try) to him after being fired. That alone tells us that him being nowhere near any star wars project is a HUGE blessing. Yoda would not say that! In fact, he has specifically said the *opposite!* "Do or do not. There is no try". Lindelof should seek a different career for somehow misinterpreting that.
Yoda would answer his quote with "much to learn you still have
60 years after episode 9? That makes no sense, a post episode 9 movie should take place e media they after it, I thought it was gonna he 15 years the first time I heard about this film in Star Wars celebration.
I don’t like Damon Lindeloff as a writer so I’m glad they’re not going with his ideas.
so 60 is old for us humans but for jedi you can add 50 to 100 years onto the human lifespan depending on how strong they are they can easily hit the 300s and that not counting if they have any alien DNA in there maybe they have a bit of Grogu in her? if soo that could maybe add 200 years onto a human life?
We're talking 60 years after the Sequels... thus making Rey 80. Jedi or not, that's not young and there's no reason not to just have Rey be the age that Daisy Ridley more or less is right now.
Star Wars fans don't realise it but they dodged a bullet with Lindelof being let go. His work on the Watchmen and Alien franchises prove he's not the right man for Star Wars not even Disney Star Wars.
Grogu (the mandalorian) kills Palpatine 🙏
With a mini dark saber.
@@Raygo. HUZZAH
Star Wars is dead. There have been a few times where some life has been injected but in the end the doctors couldn’t save it. Now rigor mortis is setting in.
Wow that’s such a morbid opinion but okay. It’s doing fine can do better
@@marketingIdeaslol He’s just saying it for attention.
Kathleen is getting involved
Now things are really going to get better. Come on Thor 🤣🤣🤣🤣
If it's any consolation, based on KK's track record of cancelled SW projects, this garbage movie will probably never get made.
Is Rey going to have the new Jedi Order follow the path of the Open Hand?
That's good. Damon Lindelof is a terrible writer. He never wrote a good movie/show in his life. And of course he worked on multiple projects with Bad Robot which if that's not a red flag I don't know what is.
Even if they (assuming this is all true or close to it) went with 80 year old Rey, I still wouldn't be watching it.
It is in no way “weird” that someone is hired to write a script and a studio rejects there script! Happens all the time! Remember these are $250 million films! They are not going to green light a script they don’t believe in! Even if it’s Damon Lindelof and they’ve already paid him a million dollars to write the script!
It is in a way "weird" that it continually appens to Lucasfilm.
@@thorskywalkerplus I don’t think so! Maybe the directors being fired mid film is weird! But writers leaving projects happens all the time! There are even script doctors brought in all the time to fix scripts! I think Lucasfilm is just being super cautious of the films right now because of the failure of Solo!
Msy the Fourth be with You!
Let us be honest... The sequel movies only care about adding new powers.
Give it a movie and Rey shall Gove both to the light side of the force... The literal light side of the force as a female girl.
Give it two movies and she will be able to blow planets up with the force.
Give it three movies and she can reverse planets that had been blown up and restore them to normal.
Rey is the Mary Sue character that thinks more powers make her more special and can fix any lack of character direction, personality, or plot issues.
In Canon comic Luke already rebuilt the order, it's even in the old video games. Jedi knight academy, with Kyle Katarn.
Rey could've had the baton passed to her by older Luke in a constructive, purposeful move.
Castrating Luke's character along with every main male character was TOTALLY uncalled for, unless Kathleen & Co. did it on purpose for 'the force is female' type reasons.
I have 0 faith or interest in upcoming movies. If Dave Filoni and/or Jon Favreau aren't involved, it'll be a sacrifice on the altar of feminism.
Disney is putting star wars in the gutter.
I will NOT be watching this movie. I will be surprised if they make any money off this movie
Damon has many successful projects under his belt and Disney’s Lucasfilm does not. The script was probably good, he did a phenomenal job with the 30 year time jump for Watchmen 2019. His endings haven’t always been good, but after broom boy Lucasfilm has proven far worse taste and bad judgment. I imagine if Boyega does return, it will be teasing a sequel where he continues what Rey was teaching, or is of an alternative philosophy regarding the force and its wielders.
I'm glad he got fired. Everything he touches turns to garbage.
This franchise is a bad joke at this point…
Daisy Ridley was a total disaster in the first 3 sequels , so why not let the train wreck continue ?
This wreck is going to make Palestine Ohio look like a garden of eden.
Kennedy changed her mind when she found out that Ridley would return. I cant believe anyone would come back after trashing disney. Boyega needs to keep his integrity and move on, they burned his character. Reys movie is too soon and will seem like a continuance of the garbage sequels. Shes you g enough to wait. Lets do a couple movies between jedi and force awakens. How about a stand alone skywalker movie with a young ben solo? Again i say use the world between worlds in a marvel fashion and change the timeline. Save Windu to the present. Build the order. Ezra ahsoka kal force ghosts etc. then show the fall of Ben Solo with some of the sequels parts and then have dark jedi and unknown sith arrive with Thrawn. If you need a cloned palpatine then he should face Windu again!
Not terribly excited for this but an 80 year old Rey would not have been any good at all so good choice there
I hope they just cancel this movie. The whole Rey skywalker idea sucked from the beginning.
Lucasfilm is a comedy and a tragedy
I hated the character Fen more than I didn't like Rey and I might watch a Star Wars movie with Rey but if they include Fen I will NOT watch it!
Lindelof is a hack, so no big deal. Pretty much a net zero benefit whether he stayed on the new rey movie or not.
This is true, and it's also true that the movie will likely be worse now because KK has no clue what she is doing.
Okay, I usually don't mind you both speculating on thigs, but you have made so many wild assumptions here. There is barely any concrete information, the tiniest of scraps. And obsessing over the "60 years" thing is weird. Rey could have been teaching Jedi all that time, or some of that time, but the movie would be set 60 years later. Who knows? none of us read Damon's pitch or his script drafts. Which is a shame because he is a very skilled script-writer. I'd be interested in seeing his vision of improving the mess that are the sequels. Also, I highly doubt John Boyega would want to come back. I would not if I were him.
There's barely any concrete information... thus any speculating is indeed going to be "wild". That's a given. And what we were, um, "obsessing over" was more the stupidity of making Rey some 80 year old woman when Daisy Ridley is 30 and could be playing the character in the prime of her life. That just doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense. And apparently Disney/Lucasfilm ultimately agreed and scrapped the idea.
I mean, clearly something happened & as long as it's not direct communication from the sources, all we have is speculation. Part of what drives traffic on RUclips is speculation on IP (now some of it is outrageous & some comes in more of a measured tone like this) What I would say is that if people think it's going to fail, it's underestimating as significant of an IP as we've ever seen. There is an industry out here based on hate for KK (& trust, I get it cause that sequel trilogy mess, my word!) But the reality is projects like Andor happened because of her existing relationship with Tony Gilroy. What some people think of her the industry for the large part doesn't - she brings in money & talent Yes, Disney is in layoff mode but people, welcome to a recession in the economy overall.
Whoemver is writing for this character simply needs to look at what Andor's creators & actors did to know that there's a harmonious balance there of action + story that can be told with her character (A character that a lot of kids have now grown up with - don't underestimate that bond) If they do that, it will succeed.
But the question is, can they use the method when they went for Andor, aka the project nobody had wanted or expected?
I mean, I didn't care too much about Rogue One cast, I thought they didn't have anything to make them stand put, but at the very least they were one offs as I could see them as the entire galaxy forgot about them.
I can't believe u guys want/hyped for Fin. He sucked !!!!! Maybe not his fault but he was a fkn janitor storm trooper and a clown. Smh... doesn't matter to me cuz I won't watch it. N I can say that confidently bcuz I never finished last jedi or seen ROS.
Don’t forget Star Wars coming to fortnite
He should have never been hired because he’s a hack. He would have been just as destructive as KK just in different way.
I just can't bring myself to have feelings about anything related to this (possible) new film. Every new detail I hear is just more and more "meh". 😐🙄🥱
Doubtful and you clicked on the video so you do have feelings on that.
@@achaudhari101 Um, no. I really don't. Unless 🥱 is a feeling.
[Spoiler alert: more here to enjoy than Sequel Sequel news.]
ps: better stick to twisting balloon animals. You'll never make it as a mentalist.
@@QuestionMan There is more than the Rey movie to enjoy Star Wars, you’re just very lazy. Balloon animals? Are you sure you’re not the one that needs therapy.