Great work Ponche.. your many years in the industry shows.. love the casual chat .. very informative and calm to listen to .. you and Maric are just brilliant and show the others how it should be done
any alternative idea for lighter and sturdy door with reasonable price? because LC300 is lighter and have far better fuel economy because of that weight saving.
@@saltymonke3682 Yeah I'm sure the split tail gate was really killing fuel economy 🙄 And I'm willing to pay the extra cost it may have meant. You can simultaneously be a Toyota fan while still criticizing some of their design decisions on the new LC.
@@casualobserver2997 that's why I'm asking. do you have a better idea to cope with the emission regulation, better performance demand with smaller displacement from the customers, durability, reliability, better fuel consumption, and suitable pricing. Toyota can reinforce its structure with light high tensile carbon fiber, but at what cost? is it repairable in every corner of the world? Many people said that LC is overpriced already. Split gate can't use the usual alloy and aluminium because you will sit on it. Toyota knows it. any idea?
I'm a city guy and will never own a vehicle this large, but have always loved the looks and 'go-anywhere-ness' of the Land Cruiser / Lexus LX. Nice comprehensive review. (Side Note: Hottie.)
It's a huge step up from the outgoing 200. Not cheap, but that reflects on the extra gear as standard.. The cars here are only dealer demo's on a limited registration & as yet can't be sold
I have the 200 Sahara with split tailgate. I use the lower split all the time, to sit on, as a work bench, as a table etc. etc. etc. The one piece tailgate on the 300 would absolutely stop me from buying the vehicle. So would the V6. What was Toyota thinking!!!
Love my landcruisers. Mine are old. Could never justify this money. Great presentation. Two things though. Dunlop grand treks are the only defect i had with my cruisers. They are short lived and useless off road. Also, please no one plug a hair dryer as suggested here. Its a 100 watt outlet. Hair dryers are usually well over 1000 watts. Great car though. Well done Toyota
Once my current 4wd becomes too old and tired, this LC certainly would be good choice for overlanding 🤔 In 5+ years they might be within reasonable price range too here in Finland.
Having a two piece tailgate allows you to sit on the lower section for lunch etc, as well as opening the lower and closing the upper to provide a platform to reach up on the roof racks, clean the roof etc.
Great review mate. Best one out there. Good to see that Toyota have used significant Australian input into the design process and haven’t messed too much with a winning formula. Smaller fuel tank is a backward step. Carrying capacity is still terrible though. With 7 passengers on board and a piddly amount of luggage, you would exceed the load limit. Further deduct a Bullbar, towbar, roof rack, long range tank and the ball weight of the van you’re pulling and you’re overweight before you even pack anything. Something needs to change in Australia’s weight limit allowances because most people who will use these things for what they’re designed for, will technically be illegal and uninsured because they’re too heavy. The footage of the van being towed, assuming a 10% ball weight (290kg), plus the weight of the towbar itself, leaves an effective carrying capacity of under 300kg, before passengers! This is not a Toyota problem, but still needs pointing out. The GR Sports KDSS and double diff locks need to be offered as an optional package for the GX or GXL version, because most people who are really going to put their car through the wringer off road, don’t want to be paying for a sunroof etc. Great to see the off road ability actually improve compared to its predecessor. Will be interesting to see how that hot-v engine design engine holds up to running at max load in hot temperatures. If it does, then they’ve done well to coax so much grunt from that size engine.
@@danielhill9080 What do you expect him to do, given the timeframe and area restrictions during a media launch. A million km to decide if it’s any good or not? The 400 series will be out by then! I’ve watched most of the reviews on this vehicle and this guy picked up on a few important things that the other reviewers missed. Most reviewers might be urbanites, but that doesn’t rule them out as clueless. Pretty rude comment.
Toyota have certainly put a lot of effort and technology into the 300 Series. When I was asked what I would like in a new Cruiser, I asked for (1) 8 Cylinders twin turbo diesel, say up to 5 litres capacity; (2) 800nm torque and (3) 4000kg towing capacity. Zero out of three for me means my 200 Series will be working for me for a very long time.
What a great review on an amazing vehicle. It is so sad we don’t get them here in the USA, but I am without words how expensive they are. Thank you for the in depth analysis. Cheers mate from Miami, Florida.
I do agree though a basic version with more manual switch gear, a SR spec or even DX spec as in the hilux range, this would also be the model that most who want to chop and out a canopy or build a wagon Overlander would want, less cost but also less electronics to go wrong in the outback, personally hate all the chrome stuff on a off road vehicle, problem with Toyota is the cross over into other models becomes an issue, so a Prado is next and then you are stepping into that price category, IMO they have too many models, as don’t get the Fortuner for example, Highlander to Prado is all ya need IMO, this would alleviate the marketing and price issue and also reduce model confusion, they almost compete against they’re own models to a degree.
@@devinb3397 maybe that’s their intention, but what if the punters want the full fat Landcruiser? In series gone by the GX was reasonably affordable as the underlying platform was quite simple. We’ve now got a 300 GX with vinyl flooring at $90,000+ so it seems there’s possibly too much expensive tech built into the underlying platform. What I’d like to see is a GX without the tech and see what that might cost. I probably don’t understand modern production line techniques but I would’ve thought with the robotized assembly methods of today anything should be able to be deleted from the build or at least certain electronic trickery could be disabled on my poverty pack 300.
Stop looking at this then. Defender decent spec with base engine is around 75k aud. Being a cheapo body on frame chassis, the LC sud be much much much cheaper. And before 'anyone' throws a last gen chiche at me, consumer reports and my neighbours' experience has proven u wrong.
I have cancelled my order as I see a tail gate as absolutely essential in a working vehicle as I have had four Landcruiser's and use it every day as a seat work bench table and so disappointed they have forgotten the real users.
No one will buy it. The population of the U.S is more than 10 times bigger than Australia, but they 5x more Land Cruisers in Australia. It doesn't make sence for Toyota to sell such a low volume vehicle in a show room with Camry's and Rav4s
There is no free lunch. More power from smaller engines is now the norm, so I expect they are working harder. Long term reliability is the next test.10 speed auto, about the limit reliably, not sure you need it, but to make you think this is like the v8, the extra gears work well.
When describing the vehicle dimensions you say “bigger is not always better.” If you guys at Chasing cars actually believe that why to you give points to vehicles, namely SUV’s pushing their size outside of their class? A good example is probably the medium class SUV’s, those things are seriously big. Look at the Tucson and RAV4 pushing into large. You are right, not everyone wants bigger. Great review of the 300 btw !
The $139k excludes on road costs. Toyota lists this at $150,966 on the road...! But consider this: When it comes to price you need to bare in mind that these vehicles have the best resale value of anything on the Australian market bar none. So despite what you pay you'll get it all back when you sell it if you look after it. Buy a Mercedes for $200k and it drops $30k after the 1st year and keeps dropping after that. Just price a 2nd hand 200 series for further proof of this. Most people talk price only without talking about cost of ownership.
There was a time when you get a kdss equipped land cruiser VX for 117k in australia. Now the kdss is only exclusive to the gr sport 300 series that too with a price hike.
*Land Cruiser is the REAL ULTRA LUXURY car you can buy. It is the only one CAN BACK IT UP with QUALITY and MANUFACTURING TECHNOLOGY TO BACK IT UP - unlike THE 🙊 FAKE 🙊 ones like Land Rover - basically cheap quality with only a name left hoping people don't see that and blow their cover*
Quite good review, thank you. Do all the 300 models have those annoying active safety measures? Especially the front car detection that slows the car?? In my opinion that feature can be unsafe under certain driving conditions. For example, a car behind may not be expecting your car to slow down without apparent reason, it may also make it difficult to overpass a slower vehicle! Does this feature have an off button?!
Can't see them having any trouble selling - unless they continue to have really bad supply problems. Eventually, if you can't actually deliver, people will stop buying.
When worked hard the smaller engine will use more fuel and wear out quicker. It’s only 0.5 of a litre bigger now than Hilux engine. My Hilux struggles for power and uses heaps of fuel when towing my 1.5 tonne boat. Put bigger tyres on it the problem gets worse. Landcruiser 300 will suffer the same fate.
nah, not really. better transmission technology, better ECU, I4 vs Biturbo V6 and engine metallurgy. OFC, towing will consume more fuel, just like every other car or UTE.
Lift gate instead of tailgate hurts my soul. If it had power rear window like 4Runner I might be convinced it was worth it, but it doesn’t. Guess I’ll keep my 200 series (not that I have a choice in U.S. anyway)…
Quite a big update I must say, not too sure why they did away with the split tail gate though. I feel like people are gonna look at this and the new tech and just keep saying "what happens when it f***s up" repeatedly like all old school people, instead of giving it a chance.
The split tail gate is possibly the most useful accessory on my landcruiser. Seat, kitchen, work bench, change table etc. quite disappointing. Im not a marketer but i reckon its a mistake
@@alphonsusho8962 *Land Cruiser is the REAL ULTRA LUXURY car you can buy. It is the only one CAN BACK IT UP with QUALITY and MANUFACTURING TECHNOLOGY TO BACK IT UP - unlike THE 🙊 FAKE 🙊 ones like Land Rover - basically cheap quality with only a name left hoping people don't see that and blow their cover*
Not a fan of the multi function display screen right in the middle of the dash. Looks like it was a tacked on add on at the last minute. To be fair though....this isn't uniquely a Toyota problem. Too many manufacturers are going down that road.
Can we mention the GR has no ANCAP safety rating.Have been told is was because Toyota didn’t want the expense of getting it done on this model. Bit disappointed I can’t choose this option as my work car because of this.
Love Toyota………….but I recall in the early to mid eighties they were saying that as technology advances price of vehicles would be get cheaper??????? I still drive a 100 Series (1998) and it has dome half a million klicks …….. hasn’t missed a beat and I won’t be throwing my cash at modern trash….happy as👍🏾
The base GX spec 300 Series has some features which makes it nicer than 200 Series GXL - leather wrapped steering wheel, automatic dipping headlights, radar cruise control, electronic park brake, power folding mirrors, lane keep assist (although this feature seems to be universally unliked). The significant key differentiators like more power/torque/gears is a huge plus, as well as the 17" diameter wheels. However the somewhat cramped interior, unnecessary hump on the floor and curiously narrow cargo bay area are unexpected detractors. It's got the same wheel base as the 200 Series, so where exactly did all that volume of space disappear to? No doubt Toyota will use this same TNG-A platform for the next Prado, so I think it means that there is hope the next gen Prado will be good buying as it will likely have near identical interior space, but at a more affordable price point.
@@rumbepack Really? where are the sale figures you say have been selling like hot cakes because all we have seen in Australia is preorder and see you in 2022 some time or other.
@@Sabumnim666 *Land Cruiser is the REAL ULTRA LUXURY car you can buy. It is the only one CAN BACK IT UP with QUALITY and MANUFACTURING TECHNOLOGY TO BACK IT UP - unlike THE 🙊 FAKE 🔴 ones like Land Rover - basically cheap quality with only a name left hoping people don't see that and blow their cover 🙏🤣*
Get where you're coming from, but with all the automation in this car, it is better at finding the appropriate gear than you or I. These cars are also very expensive, most people paying that coin want an auto and the market would be simply too small to justify it I would imagine.
I think Toyota/manufacturers develop these advanced systems to work the best with an auto box now. Light throttle and let traction do it all for you. I can see the traction control just fighting, dash light's flashing you as soon as you step off the clutch offroad. Target market for these are people that tow caravans. Personally I'd love a modern decent sized SUV that's more analogue. I'd be perfectly happy with a manual, big clutch, diff locks and strong axles. The world doesn't want that anymore though. The GU and 80 were the last of them.
I have long awaited this review and you did not disappoint at all! Thank you! I love the design however I am not sure if they have done enough in the luxury department but then again I don’t think that’s a land cruisers target. It is missing some industry standard luxury features such as panoramic roof, ambient lighting etc.
@@chasingcars makes l/c great. bs.. still has ifs. comes with road tires.. probably has air suspension.. not.. a 4x4..same as the r/rovers of the 70,s. take to river,throw mud on it,go home,tell lies.
@@phantomwalker8251 *The funny thing is the Land Cruiser is the ONLY TRUE ULTRA LUXURY car you can buy. It is the only one CAN BACK IT UP with QUALITY and MANUFACTURING TECHNOLOGY TO BACK IT UP - unlike THE 🙊 FAKE 🔴 ones like Land Rover - basically cheap quality with only a name left hoping people don't see that and blow their cover 🙏🤣*
Do the low spec models GX/GXL have an optional front&rear diff lock? If not, I think thats a stupid decision. I can not imagine someone paying so much money + aftermarket accesories to go offroading/overlanding!?
We test drived the VX and I don't think it has any of that unless you get the GR sport. The KDSS suspension has been removed on all models and is now only on the GR trim.
@@levichance I think because they've changed the axle and suspension system to mimic and have better performance than the old KDSS as standard, and there are AVS (Adaptive Variable Suspension system) and Multi terrain mode with crawl control to replace the old KDSS. so putting the old KDSS will be a drawback in lower trim LC300 since they've improved their suspension system and axle as standard. E-KDSS is waaaayyy.... different with the old KDSS.
@@levichance yea the "OLD" Crawl control. the new CRAWL (Yes, it's an acronym) and MTS are more refined than the old LC200 with KDSS. They are derived and improved from the Tacoma and 4Runner development.
Awesome car espacially they upgrade everything now Toyota add the GR tybe what a beauty especially for going bush i do love it ! Bring them in Toyota a lovely car !
A nice vehicle but has a payload the same as my Pajero Sport which cost half the price. By the time you fill the large fuel tank and put in the family your not going to have much left for towball download etc in the payload range so for towing and adding gear you then have to go aftermarket and spend more cash
*Land Cruiser is the REAL ULTRA LUXURY car you can buy. It is the only one CAN BACK IT UP with QUALITY and MANUFACTURING TECHNOLOGY TO BACK IT UP - unlike THE 🙊 FAKE 🙊 ones like Land Rover - basically cheap quality with only a name left hoping people don't see that and blow their cover*
Wow at that price I'd buy the EV Hummer lmao and I hate EV's. Hopefully they keep their reliability and we can buy one 10 years later used by a trophy wife
@@18HunnidBK I know not quite the same but hell man for the price I'm saying what I'd choose instead, plus I can put 37" on a factory Hummer with out modifying it at all.
Was going to make the purchase of the 2024, but not since I just found out from you that the split tailgate is gone. Bummer. Totally blew that one Toyota.
Fantastic LC300 and excellent review! I am wondering where you did these tests and the landscape looks very good. If the BGM volume is lower, that will be great. Anyway, thanks for your great job!
Good all round presentation but this I can get in the Toyota showroom. The latest 200 looks a lot better next to the 300 (here in Dubai) and besides the dashboard upgrade (which makes me jealous) - I see no reason to trade in my EXR v8. Perhaps the next refresh will give us electrification (PHEV could be great) and the return of the split tale gate. I do not believe for a minute that Toyota listened to current owners, otherwise there would have been a different vehicle. But the 300 will sell to the target audience because there is still the unique Toyota resale value and the strong dealer network - which competitors simply lack.
@@chasingcars I admit that there is a strong resale value (for the 200) so - yes the 300 will have no problem finding buyers. But that doesn't change the fact that most 200 owners I talked to are disappointed in the hyped up 300.
OK - I'm surprised its not called the new Prado rather than a 300 series . It's Bigger where it should be smaller, (Body panels, dash, and centre console) and its smaller where it should be bigger (3L v6 engine, engine bay is cramped, forward and side vision is obstructed by a Euro styled screen and what's with the massive safety system behind a small rear vision mirror). As an owner of a 2014 200 series GX, I feel Toyota has sadly missed the point. The GR looks great, but costs more than a Sahara, yet has fewer seats, limited off-road enhancements and next to no accessories. A dealer has offered to buy my GX with the hope I would consider the 300 series. I won't be downgrading, I'll stick with my barn doors, vinyl floors, simple driver aids and under-tuned low revving engine until Toyota make some concessions: Price and remove the dangerous nanny systems. Thank you for your review, but I am not sold on the "300" - or should it be the called the "Prado+". Incredibly, the Nissan looks a better deal despite being only available in Petrol.
I can not believe they have a hatch at the rear, the split tail gate of the 100's and 200's was one of their best features. Big step backwards IMO.
Not sure what the thought process was behind that decision.
@@markrap327 cheaper to make one piece than two
I’ve had both and while the split gate definitely has good points, it was a pain in the arse to reach anything that was deep inside the cargo area.
Хорошо что убрали две створки!
Great work Ponche.. your many years in the industry shows.. love the casual chat .. very informative and calm to listen to .. you and Maric are just brilliant and show the others how it should be done
Agree
Whoever decided to get rid of the flip down tailgate needs to be fired.
No clamshell would be a dealbreaker for me 👎🏽
@@snowairland Exactly. And those small rear windows, like all the crossovers. Big miss. When these get old I wonder if you'll see 4.7 swaps.
any alternative idea for lighter and sturdy door with reasonable price? because LC300 is lighter and have far better fuel economy because of that weight saving.
@@saltymonke3682 Yeah I'm sure the split tail gate was really killing fuel economy 🙄 And I'm willing to pay the extra cost it may have meant. You can simultaneously be a Toyota fan while still criticizing some of their design decisions on the new LC.
@@casualobserver2997 that's why I'm asking.
do you have a better idea to cope with the emission regulation, better performance demand with smaller displacement from the customers, durability, reliability, better fuel consumption, and suitable pricing.
Toyota can reinforce its structure with light high tensile carbon fiber, but at what cost? is it repairable in every corner of the world? Many people said that LC is overpriced already. Split gate can't use the usual alloy and aluminium because you will sit on it. Toyota knows it.
any idea?
I'm a city guy and will never own a vehicle this large, but have always loved the looks and 'go-anywhere-ness' of the Land Cruiser / Lexus LX. Nice comprehensive review. (Side Note: Hottie.)
It's a huge step up from the outgoing 200. Not cheap, but that reflects on the extra gear as standard.. The cars here are only dealer demo's on a limited registration & as yet can't be sold
Exactly. More expensive but much better cars, especially at the lower end of the range.
I have the 200 Sahara with split tailgate. I use the lower split all the time, to sit on, as a work bench, as a table etc. etc. etc. The one piece tailgate on the 300 would absolutely stop me from buying the vehicle. So would the V6. What was Toyota thinking!!!
Its more efficient, has more power and the 10 speed, the efficient part wasn't necessarily their choice however.
@@hadez438 I might be stubborn and not care about efficiency, but I'll keep my extra two cylinders thanks!
Love my landcruisers. Mine are old. Could never justify this money. Great presentation. Two things though. Dunlop grand treks are the only defect i had with my cruisers. They are short lived and useless off road. Also, please no one plug a hair dryer as suggested here. Its a 100 watt outlet. Hair dryers are usually well over 1000 watts. Great car though. Well done Toyota
@@ParissaKhoury classic.
You can shoot from the other side when you reviewing the 3rd seat. So viewers can see your knees touching the 2nd seat. 14:35
Normally we do. Bit constrained on this shoot.
Once my current 4wd becomes too old and tired, this LC certainly would be good choice for overlanding 🤔 In 5+ years they might be within reasonable price range too here in Finland.
To be honest....I think the GR Sport would have sold very well over here in the states. Sad we won't get any of these 😞
My thoughts were that it’s almost been styled for the US market. Strange it won’t be on offer.
You can import it used 25 years from now! 😁
And we can’t get any of the cool V8 utes or “ trucks “ here in aus. If we can they cost half as much as a house
They priced themselves out of the market in the US. They only sold 3,200 in 2020
@@Shmity1962 yeah but the Land Cruiser was never an appealing car to the masses. Mostly only appealed to Toyota Enthusiasts.
You present this so well NP. Very casual and informative. Chasing Cars lucky to have your expertise and knowledge.
Having a two piece tailgate allows you to sit on the lower section for lunch etc, as well as opening the lower and closing the upper to provide a platform to reach up on the roof racks, clean the roof etc.
Running a hair-dryer of the 100w outlet good luck. Most hair-dryers draw 800 - 1500w 🤣
1200w is Heatgun , lmao
Who gives a sh*t. If you’re THAT concerned about a hair dryer, you’re looking at the wrong car - go buy a VW beetle painted to match your purse 👛 lol
lost all credability when i heard that
@@enemyforlosser my hair dryer is draws up to 2200w lol
Errrr no, most landcruiser owners in the country would be doing 90kmh towing a big van in a 120kmh zone.
Great review mate. Best one out there.
Good to see that Toyota have used significant Australian input into the design process and haven’t messed too much with a winning formula.
Smaller fuel tank is a backward step.
Carrying capacity is still terrible though. With 7 passengers on board and a piddly amount of luggage, you would exceed the load limit. Further deduct a Bullbar, towbar, roof rack, long range tank and the ball weight of the van you’re pulling and you’re overweight before you even pack anything. Something needs to change in Australia’s weight limit allowances because most people who will use these things for what they’re designed for, will technically be illegal and uninsured because they’re too heavy. The footage of the van being towed, assuming a 10% ball weight (290kg), plus the weight of the towbar itself, leaves an effective carrying capacity of under 300kg, before passengers! This is not a Toyota problem, but still needs pointing out.
The GR Sports KDSS and double diff locks need to be offered as an optional package for the GX or GXL version, because most people who are really going to put their car through the wringer off road, don’t want to be paying for a sunroof etc.
Great to see the off road ability actually improve compared to its predecessor.
Will be interesting to see how that hot-v engine design engine holds up to running at max load in hot temperatures. If it does, then they’ve done well to coax so much grunt from that size engine.
Agree. Gov, insurers and dealers should be made to point this all out
Off road ability is determined after a million k's on deeply corrugated, unsealed road, not this garbage produced for clueless suburbanites.
@@danielhill9080 What do you expect him to do, given the timeframe and area restrictions during a media launch. A million km to decide if it’s any good or not? The 400 series will be out by then! I’ve watched most of the reviews on this vehicle and this guy picked up on a few important things that the other reviewers missed. Most reviewers might be urbanites, but that doesn’t rule them out as clueless. Pretty rude comment.
Totally agree and well said
Toyota have certainly put a lot of effort and technology into the 300 Series. When I was asked what I would like in a new Cruiser, I asked for (1) 8 Cylinders twin turbo diesel, say up to 5 litres capacity; (2) 800nm torque and (3) 4000kg towing capacity. Zero out of three for me means my 200 Series will be working for me for a very long time.
emissions standards and fuel economy. You need a truck not this. It's like asking a Ducati Diavel to tow a boat.
What a great review on an amazing vehicle. It is so sad we don’t get them here in the USA, but I am without words how expensive they are. Thank you for the in depth analysis. Cheers mate from Miami, Florida.
those are australian dollars 😂🤣😆
@@salemk.3098 , agreed but once converted to US dollars that’s still more than $100k: way too much dinero
@@marlonm396 we pay a tonne of extra tax on vehicles in Australia than the USA. F trucks here are roughly the same price.
@@Rubibi-saltwaterjim I would imagine tariffs and transportation costs are high.
We get the Lexus version and the new Sequoia is based on the same platform but is just not called a LandCruiser.
This review has just increased the value of my 200 series , thanks 🙏
Nah mate 200 is old now
What a beast! 😮
Greetings from 🇲🇽
That central console is another level. Well planned.
Great review Ponch 👏🏻
Thanks! 👍
I wonder what price they could’ve achieved with an absolutely bare bones version. $90,000 + ORC for the GX is still unattainable for many/most.
It’s never been cheap, from the 80series onwards that was over 100k here back on the 90s.
I do agree though a basic version with more manual switch gear, a SR spec or even DX spec as in the hilux range, this would also be the model that most who want to chop and out a canopy or build a wagon Overlander would want, less cost but also less electronics to go wrong in the outback, personally hate all the chrome stuff on a off road vehicle, problem with Toyota is the cross over into other models becomes an issue, so a Prado is next and then you are stepping into that price category, IMO they have too many models, as don’t get the Fortuner for example, Highlander to Prado is all ya need IMO, this would alleviate the marketing and price issue and also reduce model confusion, they almost compete against they’re own models to a degree.
So buy a Prado, pretty simple. The 300 isn’t a budget car
@@devinb3397 maybe that’s their intention, but what if the punters want the full fat Landcruiser? In series gone by the GX was reasonably affordable as the underlying platform was quite simple. We’ve now got a 300 GX with vinyl flooring at $90,000+ so it seems there’s possibly too much expensive tech built into the underlying platform. What I’d like to see is a GX without the tech and see what that might cost.
I probably don’t understand modern production line techniques but I would’ve thought with the robotized assembly methods of today anything should be able to be deleted from the build or at least certain electronic trickery could be disabled on my poverty pack 300.
Stop looking at this then. Defender decent spec with base engine is around 75k aud. Being a cheapo body on frame chassis, the LC sud be much much much cheaper. And before 'anyone' throws a last gen chiche at me, consumer reports and my neighbours' experience has proven u wrong.
Excellent review, wish we had these in Canada.
SAME! (Cries in US)
I have cancelled my order as I see a tail gate as absolutely essential in a working vehicle as I have had four Landcruiser's and use it every day as a seat work bench table and so disappointed they have forgotten the real users.
the 300 series is beast off road its like a true monster and good on road too
Sure is. Worth the wait.
@@chasingcars oh yea if you want to wait for one be paitence please
Toyota please sell the GR in the US!
Seriously. I’d buy one to replace my 200 HE tomorrow.
No one will buy it. The population of the U.S is more than 10 times bigger than Australia, but they 5x more Land Cruisers in Australia. It doesn't make sence for Toyota to sell such a low volume vehicle in a show room with Camry's and Rav4s
Something about that front view looks fresh and slick
The GR Sport is king of the new LC300 range. Great presentation too👏🏼🤙🏼. Btw, love the opening soundtrack as well, really set the tone.
Great to hear!
There is no free lunch. More power from smaller engines is now the norm, so I expect they are working harder. Long term reliability is the next test.10 speed auto, about the limit reliably, not sure you need it, but to make you think this is like the v8, the extra gears work well.
sucks that only lexus LX 600 is only available in the US
Hoping to have one of those great Toyota Land Cruiser GR sport one day 🙏🙏🙏
Buy this beast and you keep it for ever
When describing the vehicle dimensions you say “bigger is not always better.” If you guys at Chasing cars actually believe that why to you give points to vehicles, namely SUV’s pushing their size outside of their class?
A good example is probably the medium class SUV’s, those things are seriously big. Look at the Tucson and RAV4 pushing into large. You are right, not everyone wants bigger.
Great review of the 300 btw !
It’s a fair question. The reason is we have to take size into account with all the other factors that make a car good or bad.
What a absolute unit but why does it not come with all-terrain tires? It's a
dam land cruiser
If this methodology transfers into the new 4runner, I can't wait!
Never going to happen , they’re keeping that thing old fossil as is
I think the best option is the top of the line 7 seater and wait for the aftermarket to sell the TRD kit
The $139k excludes on road costs. Toyota lists this at $150,966 on the road...! But consider this: When it comes to price you need to bare in mind that these vehicles have the best resale value of anything on the Australian market bar none. So despite what you pay you'll get it all back when you sell it if you look after it. Buy a Mercedes for $200k and it drops $30k after the 1st year and keeps dropping after that. Just price a 2nd hand 200 series for further proof of this. Most people talk price only without talking about cost of ownership.
Bruce Wayne: “Does it come in *black* ?”
Oh no!!! No more 2 Peirce tail gate??! I love sitting on that tailgate to eat and chat !! Bummer.
Yes awesome review you know what your talking about with out laughing and making a joke of it WELL DONE
There was a time when you get a kdss equipped land cruiser VX for 117k in australia. Now the kdss is only exclusive to the gr sport 300 series that too with a price hike.
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Congrats on the comprehensive hands on review!
Quite good review, thank you. Do all the 300 models have those annoying active safety measures? Especially the front car detection that slows the car?? In my opinion that feature can be unsafe under certain driving conditions. For example, a car behind may not be expecting your car to slow down without apparent reason, it may also make it difficult to overpass a slower vehicle! Does this feature have an off button?!
The default mode is "ON", so you can turn it off, but you need to do that every single time after you start the car.
Toyota is on a roll: new 300 series, new lx600, new Tundra and Sequoia soon, new 150 series and 4runner next year.
Just saw one being delivered to the local dealer. Beast of a vehicle.
It’s Absolutely Awesome
thats the good new upgraded standard and great advanced system technology. toyota keep up the good work, more especially on security measures
Thanks Poncho I will take a GR Sport
The best spec, we reckon
Sucks we here in the U.S. won't get this anymore it looks great - at least the Lexus LX600 will be here soon though.
$130,000 how absurd is that? The lunacy is astonishing!
Gazoo racing
Everyone wants a bare to the bones basic trim with a much lower price tag.
Let all the people test the first edition the. Go by the 3rd gen when it's fixed
Great review - base model for me but what value over a G or RR - these will sell well 👍
Can't see them having any trouble selling - unless they continue to have really bad supply problems. Eventually, if you can't actually deliver, people will stop buying.
When worked hard the smaller engine will use more fuel and wear out quicker.
It’s only 0.5 of a litre bigger now than Hilux engine.
My Hilux struggles for power and uses heaps of fuel when towing my 1.5 tonne boat.
Put bigger tyres on it the problem gets worse.
Landcruiser 300 will suffer the same fate.
Modern engines aren't like that anymore, they're far more reliable.
nah, not really. better transmission technology, better ECU, I4 vs Biturbo V6 and engine metallurgy. OFC, towing will consume more fuel, just like every other car or UTE.
An turbo diesel engine with a 3.3L displacement is not small for this size of vehicle.
26:30 dude I should bring you to one of my huning grounds in easter europe if you think this is a challenging hill LOL
Lift gate instead of tailgate hurts my soul. If it had power rear window like 4Runner I might be convinced it was worth it, but it doesn’t. Guess I’ll keep my 200 series (not that I have a choice in U.S. anyway)…
Technically you do have a choice as it will be here branded as the LX only, but no split gate means I'm staying with my 100 just like you.
Quite a big update I must say, not too sure why they did away with the split tail gate though.
I feel like people are gonna look at this and the new tech and just keep saying "what happens when it f***s up" repeatedly like all old school people, instead of giving it a chance.
Knowing toyota, the tech they got in this was probably tested for the past 5 years hahaha
The split tail gate is possibly the most useful accessory on my landcruiser. Seat, kitchen, work bench, change table etc. quite disappointing. Im not a marketer but i reckon its a mistake
Because older people are wiser. Tech craps out. It costs too much to buy, takes too much to maintain & cost too much to repair.
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wow that's a sexy trim and color.
An irresistible stitch up
Not a fan of the multi function display screen right in the middle of the dash. Looks like it was a tacked on add on at the last minute. To be fair though....this isn't uniquely a Toyota problem. Too many manufacturers are going down that road.
Hmmmm engine issue's down the track, price way to high for what you get.
Can we mention the GR has no ANCAP safety rating.Have been told is was because Toyota didn’t want the expense of getting it done on this model. Bit disappointed I can’t choose this option as my work car because of this.
Finally a land cruiser that doesn't look like 1996 interior
You can't plug a hair dryer into the 100W - 240VAC Outlet in the back. Hair Dryers usually require at least 2000W.
Love Toyota………….but I recall in the early to mid eighties they were saying that as technology advances price of vehicles would be get cheaper???????
I still drive a 100 Series (1998) and it has dome half a million klicks …….. hasn’t missed a beat and I won’t be throwing my cash at modern trash….happy as👍🏾
The base GX spec 300 Series has some features which makes it nicer than 200 Series GXL - leather wrapped steering wheel, automatic dipping headlights, radar cruise control, electronic park brake, power folding mirrors, lane keep assist (although this feature seems to be universally unliked). The significant key differentiators like more power/torque/gears is a huge plus, as well as the 17" diameter wheels. However the somewhat cramped interior, unnecessary hump on the floor and curiously narrow cargo bay area are unexpected detractors. It's got the same wheel base as the 200 Series, so where exactly did all that volume of space disappear to?
No doubt Toyota will use this same TNG-A platform for the next Prado, so I think it means that there is hope the next gen Prado will be good buying as it will likely have near identical interior space, but at a more affordable price point.
I felt in love with this car
Too expensive, too late, you probably won't see one in Australia on the road until May 2022 and the recommended price will be a pipe dream.
too late for what? the thing is selling like hot cakes even with the pandemic parts shortage lol.
@@rumbepack Really? where are the sale figures you say have been selling like hot cakes because all we have seen in Australia is preorder and see you in 2022 some time or other.
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What have they done with the side view mirrors doesn’t look good to me looks horrible the rest looks very good till i look at the side view mirrors
I wish we could've gotten one with a manual transmission
It’s 2021
Get where you're coming from, but with all the automation in this car, it is better at finding the appropriate gear than you or I. These cars are also very expensive, most people paying that coin want an auto and the market would be simply too small to justify it I would imagine.
Agree Jeff. Even if it was only available as special order.
I think Toyota/manufacturers develop these advanced systems to work the best with an auto box now. Light throttle and let traction do it all for you. I can see the traction control just fighting, dash light's flashing you as soon as you step off the clutch offroad. Target market for these are people that tow caravans. Personally I'd love a modern decent sized SUV that's more analogue. I'd be perfectly happy with a manual, big clutch, diff locks and strong axles. The world doesn't want that anymore though. The GU and 80 were the last of them.
I have long awaited this review and you did not disappoint at all! Thank you! I love the design however I am not sure if they have done enough in the luxury department but then again I don’t think that’s a land cruisers target. It is missing some industry standard luxury features such as panoramic roof, ambient lighting etc.
Thanks for watching!
@@chasingcars makes l/c great. bs.. still has ifs. comes with road tires.. probably has air suspension.. not.. a 4x4..same as the r/rovers of the 70,s. take to river,throw mud on it,go home,tell lies.
for a 140k.. id buy a real 4x4, iveco daily. or an 80 series..or nissan gu.. if you want ''luxury'',buy a 2nd hand bmw. & save 100k..
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Looks great and sounds like it drives great too 👍🏻
Thanks for watching Jeremy.
Do the low spec models GX/GXL have an optional front&rear diff lock?
If not, I think thats a stupid decision.
I can not imagine someone paying so much money + aftermarket accesories to go offroading/overlanding!?
We test drived the VX and I don't think it has any of that unless you get the GR sport. The KDSS suspension has been removed on all models and is now only on the GR trim.
@@levichance I think because they've changed the axle and suspension system to mimic and have better performance than the old KDSS as standard, and there are AVS (Adaptive Variable Suspension system) and Multi terrain mode with crawl control to replace the old KDSS. so putting the old KDSS will be a drawback in lower trim LC300 since they've improved their suspension system and axle as standard.
E-KDSS is waaaayyy.... different with the old KDSS.
yes, rear only for non GR
@@saltymonke3682 The 200 series also had crawl control btw
@@levichance yea the "OLD" Crawl control. the new CRAWL (Yes, it's an acronym) and MTS are more refined than the old LC200 with KDSS. They are derived and improved from the Tacoma and 4Runner development.
probably will end up as rich baby hauler suvs
at this price
Awesome car espacially they upgrade everything now Toyota add the GR tybe what a beauty especially for going bush i do love it ! Bring them in Toyota a lovely car !
Interesting ploy to add the Gazoo Racing brand to the Landcruiser. Can’t quite see the cross-sell, but it’d be fun to see the LC at a track day.
A nice vehicle but has a payload the same as my Pajero Sport which cost half the price. By the time you fill the large fuel tank and put in the family your not going to have much left for towball download etc in the payload range so for towing and adding gear you then have to go aftermarket and spend more cash
Bit more grunt backing up that towing capacity, though, must be said. 700Nm vs 430Nm.
Too bad these nice new Toyotas cost nearly as much as a super car cost 10 years. Nearly unattainable for the average person. Sad.
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Awesome
A sheikh somewhere
Going to have big smile
Yes
Wow at that price I'd buy the EV Hummer lmao and I hate EV's. Hopefully they keep their reliability and we can buy one 10 years later used by a trophy wife
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You comparing Toyota to Static Hummer?
@@18HunnidBK I know not quite the same but hell man for the price I'm saying what I'd choose instead, plus I can put 37" on a factory Hummer with out modifying it at all.
Lc 300 King of road
I’ll stick to my 100 series Sahara thanks. With only 175k on the clock the 1Hdfte is just getting run in!.
wow! hopefully i will hit jackpot soon then i will buy this car!
Dream car
We need this in the USA. Please do it Toyota.
Toyota must pay you guys a bucket of money
Was going to make the purchase of the 2024, but not since I just found out from you that the split tailgate is gone. Bummer. Totally blew that one Toyota.
Would love to getting a GR if two more seats could be optioned
Disappointing only one V6 TwinTurbo engine option! I would still prefer a noTurbo V8 and a 4L no turbo straight six gas&diesel
emission standards, there's no such thing as No-Turbo Diesel
It's a very nice car
I wish to see the camera point at the road for immersive experience. Thanks
How could they not bring this to the US??? Come on, Toyota!!!!
Fantastic LC300 and excellent review!
I am wondering where you did these tests and the landscape looks very good.
If the BGM volume is lower, that will be great.
Anyway, thanks for your great job!
They test in nsw Toyota Land Cruiser club
4 year wait, thank you very much......
No more tailgate? When did they stop that? Legendary feature.
Do a gxl review I have a 200 series gxl I want to see if the 300 series is better
Awesome review mate
Great review.
Good all round presentation but this I can get in the Toyota showroom. The latest 200 looks a lot better next to the 300 (here in Dubai) and besides the dashboard upgrade (which makes me jealous) - I see no reason to trade in my EXR v8. Perhaps the next refresh will give us electrification (PHEV could be great) and the return of the split tale gate. I do not believe for a minute that Toyota listened to current owners, otherwise there would have been a different vehicle. But the 300 will sell to the target audience because there is still the unique Toyota resale value and the strong dealer network - which competitors simply lack.
You don’t think a single 200 Series owner will buy a 300 Series? Extreme call.
@@chasingcars I admit that there is a strong resale value (for the 200) so - yes the 300 will have no problem finding buyers. But that doesn't change the fact that most 200 owners I talked to are disappointed in the hyped up 300.
Watching this in the States makes me want to cry 😢
No centre console fridge for the GR? That is disappointing. The rest is awesome! Wish they upped the GVM though.
gr has fridge
OK - I'm surprised its not called the new Prado rather than a 300 series .
It's Bigger where it should be smaller, (Body panels, dash, and centre console) and its smaller where it should be bigger (3L v6 engine, engine bay is cramped, forward and side vision is obstructed by a Euro styled screen and what's with the massive safety system behind a small rear vision mirror).
As an owner of a 2014 200 series GX, I feel Toyota has sadly missed the point. The GR looks great, but costs more than a Sahara, yet has fewer seats, limited off-road enhancements and next to no accessories. A dealer has offered to buy my GX with the hope I would consider the 300 series.
I won't be downgrading, I'll stick with my barn doors, vinyl floors, simple driver aids and under-tuned low revving engine until Toyota make some concessions: Price and remove the dangerous nanny systems.
Thank you for your review, but I am not sold on the "300" - or should it be the called the "Prado+". Incredibly, the Nissan looks a better deal despite being only available in Petrol.