How Columbus Invented Cannibals

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    How did Christopher Columbus invent the idea of “Cannibals?” While evidence of people who eat other people existed long before Columbus, the idea of tribes of “savages” in the jungle who hunt other people for food was truly birthed with Columbus. He is even the first person to ever use the word “Cannibal” to describe such people. The problem is, no such people really existed in the Caribbean islands where Columbus landed. But the myth of the savage Cannibal took on a life of its own and became a common way to excuse colonization and slavery. How did it happen? Watch the episode to find out!!!
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Комментарии • 635

  • @markbennett8256
    @markbennett8256 6 лет назад +339

    I enjoyed this video. However, Pope Innocent IV died in 1254, clearly much too early for Columbus (unless you took some very "poetic license"). You mention Queen Isabella giving the OK in 1503 and then say "later" the Pope did. Unusually, there were 3 Popes in 1503, but perhaps you meant the last one, Pope Julius II, who was Pope from November 1503 until 1513. I was going to share your video, until you mentioned Innocent IV. I knew that wasn't right. I have to FACT CHECK everything before I post these days because I have called out so many people on FAKE NEWS, they are just waiting for me to post something that is demonstrably, factually incorrect. If you need a good fact checker, I have qualifications I could send you.

    • @pbsorigins
      @pbsorigins  6 лет назад +150

      Hi Mark. So I saw your comment on facebook but will also respond here: I'm looking into this although it may be a larger issue than the video. Multiple sources I used to research this video all list innocent Iv, including Bill schutts book (see works cited on original video) and the article he drew from (www.persee.fr/doc/jsa_0037-9174_1984_num_70_1_2239). If you follow the link you see that citation on page 72. So I'm going to be digging into this further since I'm wondering why multiple sources list this detail as pope innocent Iv in 1510. It could be a misprint or a mistake that was never addressed. It could be that there's something in the original document that was cited in an odd way (e.g. it was a decree by pope innocent Iv that was later taken up again in 1510 to justify actions in the Americas.) Either way I'm going to keep looking and will post the update here.

    • @pbsorigins
      @pbsorigins  6 лет назад +232

      Mark: So it turns out that this was a conflation of a few different things in many citations, but the true answer does involve Pope Innocent IV and 1510-1513. After Columbus encountered the Caribbean in 1492, Spain was given a grant from the Pope to delineate which lands they had control over. That grant was given by Pope Alexander VI in 1493. It was noted in this papal bull that the peoples encountered be made Christians and that Christianity should be spread. In 1501 Isabella and Ferdinand sent a new governor to Hispaniola, Nicolas de Ovando. Although the crown was initially interested in switching away from the encomienda system (established so that groups of natives would be “gifted” to and enslaved by groups of Spanish colonists) they ultimately kept this method of enslavement in place, noting the 1493 grant of title from Pope Alexander VI. These legal battles were brought to a head with the arrival of the Franciscans in 1510, some of whom questioned the Spanish crown’s approach. The Spanish crown continued to use the argument that Catholic law relating to infidels had been established by Pope Innocent IV at the First Council of Lyons and the Council of Constance centuries earlier. Both councils stated that infidel dominium (or the rights of non-Christians) could only be suspended by the Church only if they violated Christian law/ heavily Eurocentric “natural law.” And this included having war waged against them. Using this as precedent alongside claims from the 1493 papal bull, in 1513, Spain’s King Ferdinand, with the assistance of legal scholars and theologians, issued the “Requerimiento.” The Requerimiento was an edict read to Indian populations during conquest and that declared if they continued to resist Spanish rule which was authorized by the 1493 papal bull, they would be enslaved. (Important to note that this document was not translated for indigenous populations when it was read.) This also drew on Pope Innocent IV’s findings on infidel dominium essentially by claiming that native populations were resisting the Crown and the orders of the Pope.
      So it seems that many citations tie together Pope Innocent IV’s influence on church doctrine relating to the treatment of infidels, with 1510 and the eventual release of the Requerimiento in 1513. But it was Pope Innocent’s influence on church doctrine that was used in Spain’s continued support for enslavement.
      I’ll add a note in the description of the video to clarify.
      American Indian in Western Legal Thought: The Discourses of Conquest (Robert A. Williams)
      www.telegraph.co.uk/.../day-1493-papal-bull.../
      www.papalencyclicals.net/councils/ecum13.htm (Council of Lyons and Pope Innocent IV)
      www.persee.fr/doc/jsa_0037-9174_1984_num_70_1_2239 (original citation that Bill Schutt drew on in his book Cannibalism: A Perfectly Natural History. Both state Pope Innocent IV in 1510.)

    • @markbennett8256
      @markbennett8256 6 лет назад +161

      Wow! So yes, I see it was rather complicated and too long for your short video. But very glad you took the time to answer my question. Hope you are too. Look forward to watching your other videos. Thanks again. Oh - I posted both places because was very difficult to find where to post via the PBS website. I did not think to post to RUclips until later.

    • @SpeedOfTheEarth
      @SpeedOfTheEarth 6 лет назад +8

      Mark Bennett +

    • @michellete8545
      @michellete8545 5 лет назад +133

      @@markbennett8256 I like how respectful and thorough you both are! Very nice to see especially on RUclips

  • @dancelittlesquire
    @dancelittlesquire 5 лет назад +55

    My dyslexic stoner brain read this as “How Columbus Invented Cannabis”

  • @ericvilas
    @ericvilas 6 лет назад +238

    Oh my god, "cannibal", like "canine", cause they were allegedly dog-faced. That's amazing. I never thought of that.

    • @SpeedOfTheEarth
      @SpeedOfTheEarth 6 лет назад +1

      Eric Vilas +

    • @uselut8741
      @uselut8741 6 лет назад +12

      Eric Vilas I read cannibal was a corruption of cariban

    • @mattythewriter
      @mattythewriter 5 лет назад +16

      Their similarity is coincidental, cannibal refers to the enemy tribe Carib, canine come from Latin for dog like. Interesting historical pun though.

    • @milascave2
      @milascave2 5 лет назад +2

      Tek: I had heard that they both come from the word for the thribe "Caribs." Exept that I am not sure they if ever called themselves that, or if the name was put on them by others. Either way, the terms seem to be realted, but which came first I'm not sure.

    • @mellowrage4892
      @mellowrage4892 3 года назад

      Can you share source of where they were dog faced? I thought carib meant cannibal. Nothing to do with canines, or dog faced.

  • @katherinealbee7501
    @katherinealbee7501 6 лет назад +40

    Anthropologists divide cannibalism into "endocannibalism," or the eating of people within one's own group, and "exocannibalism," or the eating of people outside the group. Endocannibalism is practiced by people like the Yanomamo as part of funerary rites -- as a way of keeping the dead as close to the living family as possible. Exocannibalism is real, but it is used more as a means of threat or intimidation than as a way of securing protein.

    • @shadowmann9
      @shadowmann9 Год назад

      Interesting comment. So why not share what anthropologists found in the caves of western Europe with regard to juvenile bones? Infant bones were also found. All with clear butchering marks on the bones.

  • @nidohime6233
    @nidohime6233 6 лет назад +179

    Actually canibalism did exist in some precolombians cultures, the thing is there where more for religious purposes than actually part of their diets, for example the guarani thought eating the flesh of brave and strong defeated warriors would pass their strength to them; and between the yanomami they eat the ashes of their deceased family members because they believe the energy or soul of their love ones would stay with them in that way. Of course is still arguable how common this practices really are and there is not doubt it was exagerated in many cases.

    • @milascave2
      @milascave2 5 лет назад +25

      Nido: The Yanamano cremate the dead and put the ashes in Banana soup which they eat as part of a funeral ritual. This is a classic case of "ritual cannibalism" but is not dietary cannibalism.

    • @aaronlandry3934
      @aaronlandry3934 5 лет назад +26

      Nido Hime If you think they were exaggerated, you should probably read about the Aztec temple steps that were covered in cascading human blood constantly and the ritualistic dances that the priests would immediately do after while wearing the victim’s skin, often followed by the victim’s body being eaten. The hearts weren’t typically eaten, though, those were either burned or left on the temples.
      Conquistadors wrote about it, but archeologists have only confirmed that they were correct, if not less horrible than the truth was. This is also why neighboring tribes feared the Aztecs and even joined the Spanish to defeat the cannibalistic and human sacrificing Aztecs.
      Also, their religion was common in a lot of South America, so similar rituals and practices were in many parts of South America. So, Columbus may not have been lying about the cannibal islands...

    • @marcodimbo2174
      @marcodimbo2174 5 лет назад +10

      This and the above response:
      A) Were already touched on, if not explicitly mentioned in the video.
      B) does not refute anything said thereafter, especially in the case of the "Carib"
      .... I've never come across that word before, yo.

    • @katinamarie6651
      @katinamarie6651 5 лет назад +19

      The natives taught the European to grow food bc they were horrified when they caught them eating their dead at Jamestown and didnt want them disturbing their sacred burial sites

    • @aaronlandry3934
      @aaronlandry3934 5 лет назад +8

      Katina Marie Actually, Jamestown survived because Pocahontas had befriended some of their boys and would bring them food in times of famine. Her friendship would also lead to the Colonists establishing treaties for trade of goods.
      Other Colonists from around there learned to farm (plants that are native to America) from Squanto, until the Native tribe that he translated for found out that he was trying to overthrow their chief and executed him for treason. Colonists at least learned to farm because of him though.
      I don’t know about eating dead bodies, though. When exactly did that take place?

  • @arturogonzalez-barrios8206
    @arturogonzalez-barrios8206 5 лет назад +86

    The Aztecs did engage in cannibalism. While instances of human sacrifice are much less than those reported/exaggerated by Spaniards, human sacrifice is depicted in Aztec art and architecture. It wasn't merely religious, as it served to intimidate their enemies and it is known that various limbs from sacrificed men were given as gifts to noblemen and priests as a thing of status and humiliation of enemies. The commoners were not allowed (and had no access) to the most luxurious flesh of them all it seems.

    • @aaronlandry3934
      @aaronlandry3934 5 лет назад +16

      Arturo Gonzalez-Barrios If anything, I think it was under-exaggerated by the Spanish. Archeologists have estimated that the Aztecs sacrificed about 250,000 people each year, so there was lots of blood for the temple steps, lots of ritual dances with skin, and Cannibalism.
      I do not blame the neighboring tribes that joined forces with the Spanish to fight off the Aztecs. They must have been horrified of being kidnapped for an Aztec sacrifice.

    • @lalagordo
      @lalagordo 5 лет назад +5

      Have you seen the recent discoveries of sacrificed corpses???

    • @PleaseBeDumb
      @PleaseBeDumb 4 года назад +1

      Not Well Planned What do those discoveries say?

    • @kingtune9352
      @kingtune9352 2 года назад

      This is prolly god created white folks lol god said y’all think ur cool killing your own just wait 🔫🎅🏻⛵️⚓️

  • @NewConstructionTampa
    @NewConstructionTampa 4 года назад +15

    The Cannibal Warlords of Liberia are a recent example of practicing cannibals.

    • @lxportugal9343
      @lxportugal9343 4 года назад +3

      LIBERIA...that's the country I was trying to remember.
      Couldn't remember if it was Liberia or Ivory Coast

  • @oliviapetrinidimonforte6640
    @oliviapetrinidimonforte6640 5 лет назад +6

    I am from Paraguay. The Guarani, cousins of the Caribs practiced ritual cannibalism, and from time to time just cannibalism, as early as the 1980s. They also had slaves: members of conquered tribes.

    • @lxportugal9343
      @lxportugal9343 4 года назад +4

      I don't think she will say that in the video. She wants Europeans to look bad so much that instead of telling the truth (which was enough) she prefers to lie

  • @Dreadtheday
    @Dreadtheday 3 года назад +29

    My grandmother said that women fed babies to their families during the great depression. Apparently my great grandmother used to talk about it at length in the context of something NOT to do... As if people (from other families, of course) might consider it. I admit... I am a bit traumatized.

    • @fawkewemf5616
      @fawkewemf5616 Год назад +3

      That would only feed u for a day or so

  • @desanipt
    @desanipt 6 лет назад +51

    I love the eyes and teeth you put on the portrays when they say cannibals lol

    • @lxportugal9343
      @lxportugal9343 4 года назад

      Sinceramente começo a perceber como é que há gente nos Estados Unidos a destruir estátuas.
      Há vários relatos de canibalismo na America.... e esta gaja finge que é um mito!
      O ódio aos Europeus é tanto que distorcem a história e aldrabam-na completamente só para alimentar esse ódio e MENTEM descaradamente

    • @mellowrage4892
      @mellowrage4892 3 года назад

      @@lxportugal9343 no comprende. Hablan English only. Pardona me. Desculpime.

  • @automaticaccesssolutionsll311
    @automaticaccesssolutionsll311 5 лет назад +147

    I thought this video was about cannabis 😂

  • @dramaqueen465
    @dramaqueen465 5 лет назад +32

    I thought cannibalism was practised in places like Papua New Guinea

    • @FilipCordas
      @FilipCordas 5 лет назад +14

      cannibalism was practiced around the world and still is. Congo and Libera still have a big problem with it. We know Azteca involved it in many of these rituals The stories of cannibals were overblown they where not invented by Columbus to make money of slavery.

    • @Klaharnchaiya
      @Klaharnchaiya 5 лет назад +7

      im not white, but its obviously existed way before colonizer arrived.. as much as i hate colonization... i hate cannibalism more lol...

    • @tiarezavaleta8850
      @tiarezavaleta8850 3 года назад +2

      @@FilipCordas it was true, at least in México, but surely he took profits from that. The Aztecs were sadistic war lords, that's the reason some prehispanic cultures side with Spanish people to end Aztec empire.

    • @FilipCordas
      @FilipCordas 3 года назад +4

      @@tiarezavaleta8850 The historian consensus is that Aztecs did eat people they are unsure if it was something that was part of the diet or just a religious practice. Most of the 'no cannibalism' claims come from 'The Man-Eating Myth: Anthropology and Anthropophagy' and that book is not that good. I find strange that people say there was no cannibalism in Africa when there is still cannibalism in Africa.

    • @mellowrage4892
      @mellowrage4892 3 года назад

      @@FilipCordas I think the exact word Carib, as the natives that werent Caribs told Columbus that was what they were called, to classify them as people that ate others, and also denounced Catholicism. Thus was a form of imperial propoganda that made legal the subjugation of peoples that had sought after riches. (www.persee.fr/doc/jsa_0037-9174_1984_num_70_1_2239) . Again 'Imperial Propoganda'. These descendants of the Kalinagu /kalinga, Garifuna..etc still inhabit the Carribean, of which was named that by Columbus.(The original names
      of Caribbean/West Indian regions

      CountryOriginal nameInterpretationOriginAntiguaWadadli?? BarbudaWa`amoni?? CubaCubanacan TainoDominicaWai`tukubuliTall Is Her BodyCaribsGuadeloupeKarukera/KalaouceraIsland of Beautiful Waters Haiti + Dominican Rep.HaitiHigh MountainTaino "Kiskeya
      (sp. Quisqueya)Earth-mountain placeTaino "BohioRound home/Homeland "HispaniolaNew SpainColumbusJamaicaHamaicaLand of wood and waterTainoMartiniqueMadininaFlower Island MontserratAlliouaganaLand of the Prickly Pear? NevisOualie?? Puerto RicoBorikenGreat land of the valient noble lordTaino "Borinquencorruption of BorikenColumbusRedonda
      (uninhabited; between Montserrat and NevisOcanmanru?? St. KittsLiamugua?? St. LuciaIyanola?? St. MaartenOualiche?? St. VincentHairoun??CaribTrinidadIereLand of the hummingbird "La TrinitéThe TrinityColumbus)

  • @he6agonzxdv467
    @he6agonzxdv467 5 лет назад +36

    This is such an America-centric video.
    Cannabalism was pretty widely practiced in the Pacific islands.

  • @EllisMontes
    @EllisMontes 6 лет назад +1

    On the musical sharp sign:
    Originally, the raising and lowering of pitch was important for the note "B", which was the only note that could be changed originally, according to some of the earliest theories to composition. The raised B dealt with a "harsh" or "sharp" sounding scale, while the lowered B was a "soft" or "flat" sounding scale. In order to notate this, a b with sharp edges became the original "sharp sign", and a rounder b became the "flat sign", which actually looks just like a lowercase b.
    I have skipped lots of jargon and theory to explain this, but I hope that this helps explain the origin of the sharp sign, which has quite a different origin (although it incorporates a b) than the pound/hashtag.
    Thank you for your work and videos. I'm enjoying watching each one!

  • @golemkonty
    @golemkonty 6 лет назад +43

    ok, this is a video about where the word ''cannibal'' came from. For objectivity it is fair to say that instances of cannibalism was encountered on all continents in different cultures, because of different reasons(religious beliefs or simply hunger), so it is not a specific trait of one or other culture

    • @anthonyharris2231
      @anthonyharris2231 3 года назад +2

      Europeans engaged in Cannibalism heavily during the dark ages, while other culture may have dwelled in some form of custom the Europeans were simply feasting on each other to avoid famine

    • @Catlily5
      @Catlily5 3 года назад +2

      Exactly, I was confused by the title. Cannibalism is way older than Columbus.

    • @NCRonrad
      @NCRonrad 2 года назад

      @@anthonyharris2231 I don’t know if the Christian crusader cannibals were feasting to avoid famine…

    • @anthonyharris2231
      @anthonyharris2231 2 года назад

      @@NCRonrad not sure why you're singling out one subculture of Europe. But I like to learn so if they wasn't eating eachother for nutrition was it some natural mental health phenomenon?

    • @NCRonrad
      @NCRonrad 2 года назад

      @@anthonyharris2231 wartime cannibalism is a custom. And it’s practiced by Europeans just the same as other brutal cultures on earth. Don’t play the game of “they did it out of necessity unlike those savages”

  • @STYLISHONE2002
    @STYLISHONE2002 4 года назад +4

    Arawaks to Columbus: “welcome!”
    Result: got invaded (killed off n bred out)
    Caribs to Columbus: “GTFOH!”
    Result: from columbus “we have cannibals!”

  • @12tone
    @12tone 6 лет назад +10

    I'm a little late, but I can weigh in on the musical sharp question. The short version goes something like this: Around the time of the origin of modern note names, music theory was dominated by an idea called "hexachords", which are groups of six notes. The system was based three overlapping hexachords: the C hexachord, with the notes C-D-E-F-G-A, the G hexachord, with the notes G-A-B-C-D-E, and the F hexachord, with notes that we would today call F-G-A-Bb-C-D. This theory worked pretty well for composers of the time, but the problem arose that they didn't agree on what pitch "B" was. In the F hexachord, it was closer to A, whereas in the G hexachord it was closer to C. To differentiate between these two flavors of B, they called the one in the G hexachord "B durum" (hard B) and the one in the F hexachord "B molle" (soft B) and, when writing them down, they used a soft, rounded lower-case b to represent the lower one and a hard, stylized b to represent the higher one. Over time, we started to expand the concept of accidentals to fill other gaps between notes, and adapted these hard and soft Bs as general markers for raising or lowering pitches, leading to the modern flat sign, based on B molle, and the modern sharp and natural signs, both based on B durum. As far as I know, the resemblance to the pound sign is entirely coincidental, although the two probably collided around the era of the printing press. Interestingly, this history may have also led to a quirk of German notation where the two pitches between A and C, which we'd call Bb and B, are instead called B and H. This is thought to be because B durum looks a lot like a lower-case H, and transformed into one due to careless scribes. It's not clear that this explanation is accurate, though: Other theories exist for the German H, but that seems to be the most common explanation.

    • @12tone
      @12tone 6 лет назад +1

      I actually made a whole video about this and other history-of-note-name stuff if you'd like to know more: ruclips.net/video/BBbhfRfQIMM/видео.html

  • @busyrand
    @busyrand 6 лет назад +13

    Super Dope Channel! I love detailed stories told with an informative historical context.

  • @fxlxp
    @fxlxp 6 лет назад

    I love love love this channel and the host is amazing!

  • @Justanothermusicnerdxo
    @Justanothermusicnerdxo 5 лет назад +6

    Small correction, as someone who studied Christian history in university. The Popes decree on cannibalism was not hypocritical because during the time period the Catholic Church believed Jesus was mostly divine, some sects even fought that he was entirely divine.
    This idea of divinity meant his flesh and blood were pneuma, Which is Greek for breath but more accurately represents some airy divine nature that humans possess. By communing with Jesus you were embracing his divine nature, and pneuma.

    • @JoseFranco9
      @JoseFranco9 2 года назад +1

      Pneuma literal is wind but translated meaning its spirit. You were eating Christ spirit, the holly spirit.

    • @bman5257
      @bman5257 11 месяцев назад

      That’s just plainly false. The Catholic Church at the time of Columbus had believed they were eating the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity since the beginning of Christianity. This phrase is from St. Cyril of Alexandria from the 300s. They had believed he was divine from the beginning as can be seen in the New Testament, and this was taught dogmatically since 325 at the First Nicene Council.

  • @secularmonk5176
    @secularmonk5176 6 лет назад +20

    1:41
    It *doesn't follow* that if it isn't practical to use human flesh to achieve good nutrition, then it *isn't likely* cannibalism was a frequent *ritualistic* practice.

    • @grsnowball
      @grsnowball 6 лет назад +4

      There are many things are not beneficial for people, but that are still practiced regardless.

    • @ALLmasked
      @ALLmasked 5 лет назад +2

      Len is saying that if it isn't practical then it should be likely ritualistic.

    • @milascave2
      @milascave2 5 лет назад +4

      Len: Ritual cannibalism has been practiced by people all over the world. However, dietary cannibalism, that is, treating human flesh as just another kind of food, has never been documented.

    • @aaronlandry3934
      @aaronlandry3934 5 лет назад +3

      Len Arends You’d think that, but the most important part of Native South American religion is bloodlust. It was under the guise of appeasing the gods with human sacrifice and was taken to an extreme. Read into some of that if you dare, it’s literally the stuff of nightmares.

    • @katinamarie6651
      @katinamarie6651 5 лет назад

      Then why did the natives teach European to grow food after catching them eating their dead at Jamestown? They didnt want them doing that to their people or disturbing their sacred burial sites.

  • @WAValenti
    @WAValenti 5 лет назад +1

    The sharp sign is actually the "newest" of the three standard accidentals. In medieval music, musica ficta were used to avoid dissonance. Mainly, this was to avoid outlining the tritone. The note most commonly altered was the note we call B-natural, which was changed to B-flat to avoid making a tritone against F. The French called this bémol, or "soft B." The flat sign was used to show a b with rounded or soft edges. To denote B-natural, a b with square edges was used. These evolved into the signs we use today. The sharp sign is actually a variant of the natural sign.

  • @AvailableUsernameTed
    @AvailableUsernameTed 5 лет назад +49

    Cannibalism rare? I prefer medium rare.

  • @jjtubens
    @jjtubens 5 лет назад +3

    The Country he landed and call the taino indians was in Dominican Republic and had to leave some of hes crew in a port called "Natividad".

  • @knowitall3892
    @knowitall3892 5 лет назад +1

    Subscribed keep doing your thing

  • @ZHA
    @ZHA 3 года назад

    Love your videos. Good stuff. The comment section is great too

  • @andrewhammel5714
    @andrewhammel5714 3 года назад +5

    The Caribbean sea is named after the Carib tribe - who were also called "Caribal, " or "Cannibal". Maybe "Cannibal' originally meant "god faced". I dunno. But arent there tribes in New Guinea that really DO use humans as the "other white meat"? In fact the Fore tribe used to get a weird disease that was essentially the human equivalent of "mad cow disease".

  • @brunoparada7404
    @brunoparada7404 3 года назад

    Thanks for the video

  • @prittybritty12
    @prittybritty12 4 года назад +3

    it's funny because when i think of cannibals I think of the Donner party

  • @Spearomen
    @Spearomen 4 года назад +3

    Lots of historical inaccuracies.
    Tainos enemies the Caribs ate Tainos regularly way before Columbus arrived.
    The human calorie values compared to pigs and beavers is ridiculous. First; Every person have different fat content, yes they (uhm used to be) leaner.
    Second; (and it’s a big one) There are no beavers on those islands and Boars (just like horses) were introduced by Spanish explorers.
    So yeah, no beavers no boars, no cows, no deer, or modern chickens. I am sure people took every opportunity to get their protein in order to survive - and for the given technology and circumstances, I cannot even blame them.

  • @josecarvajal6654
    @josecarvajal6654 5 лет назад +15

    There´s little evidence to claim that the Caribs were cannibals... but cannibalism have been practiced in diferent places along human history for many especific reasons; so Colombus maybe invented the word "cannibalism" but the practice wasn´t invented by him.

    • @michaeld8280
      @michaeld8280 5 лет назад +3

      Its just trendy to shit on Columbus by people who want to look smart.

    • @curtisthomas2670
      @curtisthomas2670 Год назад +2

      She didn't say he invented cannibalism but the concept of savage tribes engaging in large scale cannibalism for food, which did not exist in any lands he visited.

  • @Brendawallingbear
    @Brendawallingbear 5 лет назад +3

    I LOVE that white lacey shirt!

  • @Lizzy2961
    @Lizzy2961 5 лет назад +13

    Oh oops, I read that as cannabis.

  • @ronque23
    @ronque23 4 года назад

    I want the next zombie apocalypse movie to use those cannibal cartoon faces. That’s sick man!

  • @nicholasleach8770
    @nicholasleach8770 4 года назад +2

    So he invented it by giving it a name

  • @lifeencouragements6641
    @lifeencouragements6641 5 лет назад +2

    Hi I am from Dominica and there are Caribs/kalinago people still living on the Island.

  • @cornerseeker9167
    @cornerseeker9167 5 лет назад +21

    Guys, historical research must be unbiased ;-)

    • @ALLmasked
      @ALLmasked 5 лет назад +1

      but most of the viewers are vegan 😂😂😂

  • @Laura-qp9iw
    @Laura-qp9iw 6 лет назад

    Really interesting video!

  • @jamesgoetzke9509
    @jamesgoetzke9509 3 года назад +3

    Actually the cannibals of New Guinea were very real and though they have changed their ways. And a few head hunters still are alive but not practicing. In fact missionaries converted them and they had an easier time accepting Transubstaniation than many other cultures.

  • @Capn_Jack
    @Capn_Jack 9 месяцев назад

    This should be titled: “In defense of cannibals”

  • @TheLanCave
    @TheLanCave 6 лет назад +26

    Dammit, Columbus...

    • @driftingdruid
      @driftingdruid 5 лет назад +1

      ikr, why venerate a racist who didn't actually discover the American continents

  • @spiffygonzales5899
    @spiffygonzales5899 5 лет назад +21

    "the myth of the Savage cannibal"
    Girl... there's literally people who do cannibalism TODAY because of tradition.

    • @sandramccabe2109
      @sandramccabe2109 4 года назад +2

      Cannibalism does exist today in America. Little known Bistro's (one is in California) people can place special orders of human meat.

    • @sandramccabe2109
      @sandramccabe2109 4 года назад +2

      Sick but true.

    • @Catlily5
      @Catlily5 3 года назад

      Jeffrey Dahmer.

  • @acousticangle22
    @acousticangle22 5 лет назад +2

    Thank you for doing the work and spreading the truth! You're incredible!

    • @lxportugal9343
      @lxportugal9343 4 года назад +1

      spreading the lies......
      There lots of reports about cannibalism in the Americas

    • @jboyd7201
      @jboyd7201 3 года назад

      @@lxportugal9343reports are not facts, it's people like you spreading lies! You need to believe the Indian is cannibalistic to dehumanize them! All to make yourself feel better about what you did to them!

    • @lxportugal9343
      @lxportugal9343 3 года назад +2

      @@jboyd7201 *NO* it's her and others spreading lies... just to keep feeding hate against whites/Europeans/Christians
      Reports/historical documents/facts whatever you want do call them, you can play with rhetoric all you want... that fact is *there was cannibalism in the American continent*
      The cannibalism was never an excuse to colonize America... Spain 500 years ago was not USA of 2003. No one needed excuses like the lie of "weapons of mass destruction" of Bush administration, in order to persuade Spanish society to allow an invasion.
      This is a completely ridiculous line of though, Spain just had starting invading Canaries Islands and no one mentioned about cannibalism there so why would they lie about Caribbeans????

  • @rparl
    @rparl 6 лет назад

    The University of Colorado Boulder has the Alfred Packer Grill in the student center, named after the most famous cannibal in Colorado. "There was only three Dimocrats in the whole state and you et two of 'em."
    They have (or had?) a Packer day where two students (m&f) wear swim suits, are lathered in catsup, and are placed between large pieces of bread. (Or so I've heard; I wasn't visiting there long enough to see it.)

  • @Andrew-jh5kj
    @Andrew-jh5kj 3 года назад +4

    I'm pretty sure there still are some tribes of cannibals in Papa New Guinea. I know there still were about twenty years ago. By this I mean tribes that would go out and kill people to eat them.

    • @billtoo4694
      @billtoo4694 3 года назад

      Oh come on they haven't practiced cannibalism in Polynesia for years,....not since 1987.

  • @Dagobah359
    @Dagobah359 4 года назад

    Great necklace!

  • @FDPFrank
    @FDPFrank 3 года назад +4

    Your concept of America is very narrow. It is well documented that the Mexicas (also known as Aztecs) ate human flesh as ritual dishes. Some of those dishes are still prepared today with pork or chicken instead of humans, such as pozole and tamales.

    • @drianna6727
      @drianna6727 2 года назад +1

      *A whitewashed exaggerated version of events.

  • @theartistformerlyknownasmm246
    @theartistformerlyknownasmm246 5 лет назад

    I misread this as cannabis and I was so confused and interested

  • @TheLanCave
    @TheLanCave 6 лет назад +9

    I'd be interested in hearing about cannibalism in Africa (its veracity, for one) and if those stories had spread to Europe in the fifteenth century. If so, did racism on Columbus' part contribute to him believing it about any people who looked different from him.

    • @pbsorigins
      @pbsorigins  6 лет назад +4

      TWIOCH thanks for this question! So I'll be answering this and plugging it at the end of next week's episode since this actually does have a role in the trajectory of the larger story. Stay tuned!

    • @ashablack2291
      @ashablack2291 5 лет назад +1

      Mia Queiroz The used the body parts for witchcraft not food.

    • @blargkliggle1121
      @blargkliggle1121 5 лет назад +2

      @@aniyunwiyahniitsitapi4738 the prevalance of cannibalism is overstated, but there's no reason to believe it's a myth. Of course, one issue that makes it nearly impossible to know if a society committed cannibalism regularly, is that it's impossible to distinguish the signs of cannibalism from the signs of ritualistic defleshing of the dead. Even char marks on remains as that was also a way to deflesh a cadaver. As to the diet of the ancient Africans, veganism is a modern development. Vegans require fortified foods to compensate for the nutrients that are hard to get from a plant based diet, such foods and supplements only existed in the early to mid 1800's.

  • @wolfdreamer8113
    @wolfdreamer8113 5 лет назад

    When I picture cannibals I immediately think of the Donner party.

  • @pachucotirili
    @pachucotirili 3 года назад +1

    Another excellently researched and explained video. Thank you

  • @aniyunwiyahniitsitapi4738
    @aniyunwiyahniitsitapi4738 6 лет назад +18

    Very accurate for under 10 minutes.
    I would have mentioned the Scythians who practiced cannibalism or Vlad the Impaler who drank human blood regularly.

    • @TheRachaelLefler
      @TheRachaelLefler 5 лет назад

      I was hoping they would mention the Celts who took human heads as trophies, even though "head hunter" was an epithet often used to slur Native Americans.

  • @abramthiessen8749
    @abramthiessen8749 6 лет назад +4

    Having gone to a school named after actual cannibal Sir John Franklin, I know that there are lots of instances of desperate explorers and colonists. On the other hand I don't know of any accounts of cannibalism amoung the Dene or Inuit aside from that one. So It was a european ship crew that I though of first when you said cannibals. I thought of Papua New Guini second.

    • @michaeld8280
      @michaeld8280 5 лет назад

      Franklin died well before the crew likely started eating each other.

  • @BY-ki1ml
    @BY-ki1ml 4 года назад +3

    Not so fast SJW historians. They found pottery from an Amazonian culture all over the carribbean that indicates an invasion well into the time of Columbus. Even staunch anti-columbus archeologists had to admit that there is a good possibility that a cannibalistic culture had taken over the lands from the original inhabitants who came from the north. My guess is the Caribs were a darker Amazonian breed of natives which dna studies have shown some tribes in the Amazon to be distantly related to melanesians like the Papua New Gunineans who seem to still have cannibalism to this day.

    • @billywallis4633
      @billywallis4633 2 года назад +1

      all around the world. I found this video extremely biased and a reach of SJW history

  • @alphonsolinguini9501
    @alphonsolinguini9501 Год назад

    The Native American Indian Tribes all mentioned that historically there were extremely tall Cannibal Inhabitants here in what is now known as America prior to the First Nation Indian Tribes arrival.

  • @ReidMerrill
    @ReidMerrill 5 лет назад

    Those moist noises though.

  • @BeTheChange99
    @BeTheChange99 5 лет назад +1

    But, from the pov of the spaniards, why would they want to buy slaves who might try to eat them?

  • @williamhendrix2053
    @williamhendrix2053 3 года назад +1

    You are wrong! There has been crazy canibles before he was born

  • @deboralee1623
    @deboralee1623 3 года назад

    "🎵I eat cannibals...🎵"
    Toto Coleo
    (yes, i had to look up the group's name)

  • @warrenleezy
    @warrenleezy 2 года назад

    Columbus just wanted to tell a good yarn

  • @schizoseahorse
    @schizoseahorse 6 лет назад +6

    AFAIK the few instances of pre-Colombian cannibalism, or those that took place out of his sphere of influence even after he began his genocide in the Caribbean and across Turtle Island, were overwhelmingly cultural rituals meant to demonstrate great respect and veneration of the individual being consumed. The idea of cannibalism as “secretly and malevolently hunting other humans” is purely (or at least overwhelmingly so) a result of the European actions constituting this earlier era of colonialism. Many of the (again, very few) instances of these noninfluenced cultures participating in cannibalism either consumed the flesh of elders as they died as a ritual symbolizing the passing of knowledge onto younger generations, or of military enemies, which were consumed as a show of great respect, although disagreement. These military instances were not deliberate hunts to find and kill humans, but rather followed other “more normal” instances of military violence. The idea is that no matter your disagreement or strife with an enemy, they would have likely displayed great strength and honor on the battlefield against you, and consuming their flesh was a symbol of respect and trying to take that great power into you. These may still seem strange to us today, but I want to remind that these instances were results of natural (or causes which we consider “normal”) deaths, and the cannibalism only followed those as a ritual of veneration. Cannibalism as an instance of actual dominance and objectification of other humans as game meat, essentially, only began with European Colonization, and is overwhelmingly committed by people of European descent (even to this day).

  • @sana_IITD
    @sana_IITD 5 лет назад

    Eye opener

  • @richbrass12
    @richbrass12 Год назад

    when i thought of cannibals i'm thinking Hannibal Lecter. PEople eating each other

  • @redwater4778
    @redwater4778 2 года назад +1

    Early missionaries in Africa wrote of cannibalism.

  • @gigi4848
    @gigi4848 Год назад +1

    As someone who is more than 50% Carib (Kalinago tribe), I'm super excited that this has finally been covered. SO tired of explaining to folks that the Caribs are not man-eating monsters...Also, we don't have dog faces lol *face palm*

  • @user-db7vy8sf2h
    @user-db7vy8sf2h 4 года назад

    You are perfect!!!🥰🇦🇴

  • @ViktirE1
    @ViktirE1 5 лет назад +1

    He didn't "Invent" cannibals. He coined a phrase.

  • @Clothmom1
    @Clothmom1 5 лет назад +2

    Total side note: I absolutely love that eggshell-colored shirt!

  • @liljay3777
    @liljay3777 3 года назад +1

    This is the part about Christopher Columbus they don’t teach us in school.

  • @ammaleslie509
    @ammaleslie509 3 года назад

    I expected her to mention the survivors from the plane crash in the Andes mountains who told their story in the book and movie "Alive"

  • @r5ndom527
    @r5ndom527 3 года назад

    How she keeps saying" for money" 😂

  • @nadiamahmoud4426
    @nadiamahmoud4426 6 лет назад

    Carry on

  • @akanfoyawu1072
    @akanfoyawu1072 3 года назад +2

    Facts sistar. We can look at great works like "Mummies, Vampires and Cannibals, A look at Mideval Medicine" it tells all. They have always ate us, let's be as Frankenstein as possible.

  • @Zeldarw104
    @Zeldarw104 4 года назад

    I love your top very, bohemian, sharp!
    I love your video(s) very intelligent, and quite sharp.🙂 Like you just too sharp.💖

    • @Zeldarw104
      @Zeldarw104 4 года назад

      Oh my goodness I promise you, I didn't know you were gonna to use the word: Sharp!😮🙂
      I use that word all the time, when I like something.🤭

  • @ericp9479
    @ericp9479 5 лет назад +2

    Cannibalism in extremis is a horrible thought. I can understand the necessity of the incidents cited in this video. I have to imagine the impossible decision haunted those people for the rest of their lives. That said, using false claims to justify slavery is reprehensible.

  • @rahel9353
    @rahel9353 4 года назад

    Potent info here.

  • @annadenise27
    @annadenise27 6 лет назад +8

    I love this series so far. Keep it up! (Also... first?)

  • @LELANTOS11
    @LELANTOS11 3 года назад +4

    As a descendent of Polynesian cannibals myself, it wasn't always Europeans myths and exaggerations. Among some tribes on my island we have a saying that roughly translates to "were it not for Christianity we'd still be picking our enemies flesh from our teeth"

  • @truthhertz10
    @truthhertz10 5 лет назад

    Wow I litteraly did not know this! Great Vid!

    • @wizardoflawz
      @wizardoflawz 3 года назад +1

      you literally still dont know anything, the video is wildly inaccurate

  • @shami5enwow
    @shami5enwow 5 лет назад

    Aw man, I thought the title said 'cannabis' at first

  • @MrChillPusatVideoSeru
    @MrChillPusatVideoSeru 5 лет назад +36

    could we say cannibalism is justifying issue to destroy a country, nation or race. May be "cannibalsm" is same word as they use "terrorist", "Communist", "Nuke Program" etc.
    Good job bro.. finally you could attack other people by used words above😁

    • @josedanielherrera7115
      @josedanielherrera7115 5 лет назад

      It's not really the word, but the frequency at which the word is said in the context of the tied justification. The word could be "doo doo butter" as long as the justification is tied to the word in high frequency by authoritative figures. The effectiveness of this strategy mostly depends on how subservient the target population is to begin with.

    • @driftingdruid
      @driftingdruid 5 лет назад +1

      adding "Illegal Immigrants", or just "Immigrants", to your list, 'cause so much anti-immigration outrage I've read these days...

    • @FilipCordas
      @FilipCordas 3 года назад

      Did you actually think about what was the claim here? Just use basic logic, what where slaves used for? Hard labor and as house servants, so as a marketing tool would you really advertise that the slave you are selling is a man eating savage? Buying cannibals just makes no sense since they could eat the rest of your slaves and you have to watch them 24 hours a day.

  • @truerthanyouknow9456
    @truerthanyouknow9456 Год назад

    Thank you for pointing out the hypocrisy associated with transubstantiation of the Eucharist.

  • @joeb134
    @joeb134 3 года назад

    I love PBS

  • @capdelaxavineta6267
    @capdelaxavineta6267 4 года назад

    Pope Innocent IV (Latin: Innocentius IV; c. 1195 - 7 December 1254), born Sinibaldo Fieschi, was the head of the Catholic Church from 25 June 1243 to his death in 1254.[1]
    Fieschi was born in Genoa and studied at the universities of Parma and Bologna. Considered a fine canonist, he served in the Curia for Pope Honorius III. Pope Gregory IX made Fieschi a cardinal and appointed him governor of the March of Ancona in 1235. He was elected pope in 1243 and took the name Innocent IV. He inherited an ongoing dispute over lands seized by the Holy Roman Emperor, and the following year relocated to France to escape imperial plots against him in Rome. He returned to Rome after the death of the Emperor in 1250.

  • @miyapapayax
    @miyapapayax 5 лет назад +3

    Before I continue with this video, not that I think about this often, but I'm not gonna lie, when I think "cannibal" I first think sadistic white male, like the serial killers in horror and slasher films, or groups of desperate white people, like in a desperate situation and they have no food, like those people who got stuck in the snow on that mountain that time.

  • @josephcope7637
    @josephcope7637 2 года назад +1

    The practice of cannibalism by primitive tribes is no myth. All this video proves is that not all bologna is sold from meat counters.

  • @wanttogetfood
    @wanttogetfood 4 года назад

    my own forefathers ate the hearts of their enemies just 800 years ago

  • @rogerszmodis
    @rogerszmodis 3 года назад +2

    0:02
    1: don’t assume I’m a racist just because you are.
    2: people have been eating other people since long before 1492.
    The earliest fossil evidence of human linage cannibalism is almost a million years old. In England there is evidence of ritualized cannibalism around 2000 years ago.

    • @lbarnx
      @lbarnx 3 года назад

      Want some cheese to go with your whine? And she said Europeans used the natives supposed cannibalism as an excuse to horrible jackasses.

  • @chickadeestevenson5440
    @chickadeestevenson5440 5 лет назад +1

    To be honest my first thoughts were.
    MANTISES!
    followed by
    Creepy Serial Killers (like Dhamer)
    followed by
    that's how you get prions
    followed by
    Aren't the Faore Island people more resistant to a particular sort of prison due to ritual funerary cannibalism?

  • @Norimarisu
    @Norimarisu 5 лет назад

    In school we were told that the non Taino tribes would sometimes kill people for rituals, like ... it happened very rarely. It's easy to think the not Tainos were evil because they weren't as friendly and defended their territory.
    Yet somehow the myth of cannibalism helped wipe out Tainos as well. You know, the ones they first encounter.
    But then again, I was thought this in school and the info might have been biased.

  • @aaronsaunders6974
    @aaronsaunders6974 Месяц назад

    If the Arawak said it, I’d believe it

  • @jeremiahnoar7504
    @jeremiahnoar7504 2 года назад +1

    a false premise and a bait and switch all with in the two minutes...impressive.

  • @christophercolumbus480
    @christophercolumbus480 6 лет назад

    What a nice meal.

  • @ABIRHASAN-rw7md
    @ABIRHASAN-rw7md 5 лет назад +1

    OG Troller😂

  • @tay012
    @tay012 5 лет назад

    Please tell me I wasn’t the only one to misread cannibals as cannabis. 😅

  • @FireFlyDani
    @FireFlyDani 4 года назад

    What evil twist!

  • @maddyline2245
    @maddyline2245 5 лет назад

    The Romans were similarly into sensational stories about cannibalism and human sacrifice. One bit of Pliny’s (30.4) sums up the general connection between imperialism and tales of cannibalism nicely: ‘It is not possible for what is owed to the Romans to be valued enough. (They) did away with the atrocities in which to kill a man was most devout and even to eat (a man) was most healthful.’ He says this just after saying that these practices, having been prohibited by the senate, have crossed the ocean, where they continue in Britain. Britain had fairly recently been added to the empire at the time.

  • @tbone3638
    @tbone3638 5 лет назад +1

    Yes they did exist. Even into the 1800’s

  • @allanrichardson1468
    @allanrichardson1468 5 лет назад

    At the end of Heinlein’s novel “Stranger In a Strange Land,” after the Martian human Valentine Michael Smith is stoned to death by the crowd outside his hotel, his followers, adhering to Martian custom, make soup out of his body.
    Even if you think this is a spoiler, you can’t grok the story without reading it. Especially the original long version, which was found by his widow and published posthumously.

  • @henryespinosa9283
    @henryespinosa9283 3 года назад

    It’s a very interesting subject. I always assumed that the word cannibal had always been in existence from pre-Colombian times. It makes sense that the word cannibal is derived from the Latin word cannis or dog. The myth of subhuman creatures who look like dogs and eat human flesh to be referred as cannibals makes sense. Important note, if those mystical creatures were non-humans or subhuman, then they couldn’t be cannibals because the definition of cannibals means humans eating other humans.