Michael Jordan has no case to be the number 1 NBA player of all time. He has no case to be the number 1 NBA shooting guard of all time. He never had a case to be the number 1 NBA player when he was in the NBA. If you are going to rank players, lots of players are better than him. Lots of players could beat him in a one on one game. He doesn't have the best NBA statistics of all time. He is not the best scorer of all time. He is the most overrated sports star in the history of mankind. And I could give you more examples, but you get the point.............Also, Michael Jordan fans have lots of takes where they are wrong, or where they make things up, or where they contradict themselves, or where they move the goal post, or where they don't do enough research, or where they cherry pick things, or where they are not consistent, or where they react in a negative way if someone has a take that they think is taking away from Michael Jordan..........Also, Michael Jordan fans are the worst sports fans of all time, and they are the flat Earthers of the NBA world then.....................Now, if you disagree, you can go on my program and show me why you are right. If you want to go on email TheTelephoneUniverse@Gmail.Com...........And now watch how most Michael Jordan fans will ignore all this, and they won't go on my podcast to show me how they're right on whatever they disagree on, and they will get annoyed, and they will write something negative online...........and you know why they are like this?.............Because they know that they have no proof that will prove that I am wrong on whatever they disagree on, and they are in love with Michael Jordan, and they have too much pride to admit that they are wrong in anything, and they are not educated on the NBA.
Honestly I think the whole GOAT debate is endlessly pointless. So many variables you could choose to add and weigh, or ignore. Wilt happens to be the guy I consider to be the most individually dominant basketball player ever but by metrics like how many rings/back to back championships it's going to be somebody else. Certain things cannot be captured by metrics. How much did a player improve his team as a whole? How good were his team mates individually and how good was the synergy, did the guys get along etc.
I was at a Philadelphia game in 1966 and went down to the floor when Wilt was sitting there before the game. I looked at his Shoes that he was putting on and asked him what size they were. His response was, "Why is that Boy, you want to buy me a pair"!
My dream team: Wilt, Bill Russell, Bird, Jordan, and Magic. For me, MJ is the goat, but I think Wilt is arguably the most gifted physical athlete to ever live.
Back in the 70's I drove a taxi for a short time when I first moved to L.A. Whenever we would drop someone off at LAX we would park in a holding area and wait our turn to pick up a passenger who had just landed. As I'm sitting there I notice this very large man who could be Wilt Chamberlain talking to a few of the other cab drivers. By the time I left ( about 45 minutes later) he was still talking to these cabbies. But not only talking, but you would have thought all of them were best friends. He was super friendly and sincere. I was very impressed with this man and how he engaged people.
Wilt said to MJs face "The difference between you and me is that they had to change the rules so l couldn't dominate. They changed the rules so that you could.” MJ had no rebuttal.
@@ac4185 MULTIPLE rule changes. Widen the lane from 12' to 16'. Offensive Goaltending (though Bill Russell probably had some input into that one). Free Throw must leave your hand before you cross the line of the free throw line (Wilt is known to have been able to DUNK from the free throw line with a 2-3 step start as a freshman in college - unknown if he could do it from a standing start AT the line but you were not required to BE at the line for the shot - just behind it). Just from the top of my head. The only major change I can remember from the MJ era was the Flagrant Foul rule growing teeth (after the 1990 Finals) - but that was more do to dirty players like Laimbeer, even if it DID help MJ indirectly.
@@IronMike-f8i What you are saying is that other players wern’t competitive around Wilt-in other words, they didn’t try. I doubt this. The game plan may have been to feed Wilt the ball, but that’s different. Other teams aren’t just letting him score or giving him rebounds. He played against other good players. People are competitive, especially at the pro level. Who would want to play giving up like you are saying or watch that?
i sat next to him at a tourney i Laguna Beach around the same time. i gave him a beer and said to be cool, as the cops sometimes waljed by. when he left, he turned and thanked me and shook my hand.
i as well, i also did a tri triathalon and witness a life long memory of Lew Alcinder was beyond rude to a 7 year old that asked for an autograph , not knowing how it must drain a celebrity to engage in my opinion Lew was way out of line i will never forget what i saw with Wilt and with Lew
When I was an elementary school kid in the San Diego area of SoCal, Jerry West, Wilt Chamberlain, and Elgin Baylor were household names. We'd pretended that we were them on the court to experience that sense of Lakers greatness. Even though we had the Elvin Hayes led Rockets back then, the Lakers were the team we rooted for! Enjoyed Jerry's accounts of Wilt. Thanks for sharing.
Not true. I grew up in San Diego also and remember the Rockets. Calvin Murphy lived next door to a friend of mine. I rooted for the Rockets. These days I am Clippers fan.
West was a great player overall, and really good in the clutch! I would compare him to Havlicek--even though John was a small forward...they both had that extra-spark of awareness on the court, and were so often the difference in a game.
How Kool was this!! West was the engineer of the Lakers and WILT was the Machine. Just keep WILT happy with food and you can get 180% production from him. WILT sounds like a fantastic man to know and laugh with. LOVE IT!!! :)
I got to shake his hand in ‘69 at a basketball camp where he was a guest instructor. The camp was held in the mountains of Virginia and run by a number of coaches from the Southern Conference. When we signed up for the camp we didn’t know West would be there. Among other things, he put on a shooting exhibition for us, played in a game with the camp counselors, who were players from SoCon schools, and handed out awards at the conclusion of the camp. That’s how I got to shake his hand. He was a very sincere and down to earth man and I wish I’d understood then just what a privilege it was for us for him to have taken the time to be there.
Heard so many great storys about Wilt. Wish I had a chance to meet him. Of all the great black super stars including Ali to meet, it would be hands down for me Wilt. Not just the physical talent, but charisma, the intelligence,, the humor, the guy had it all.
If Wilt had joined the Lakers in 1962, Russell would have maybe 4 or 5 rings, and Wilt would have at least that. Bill Russel was my favorite player in the 1960s, so I'm not showing Wilt any favortism. I'm old enough to remember the Lakers with the great Elgin Baylor and Jerry West. They took the Celtics to 7 games in the NBA finals several times, losing them all. Can you imagine prime Baylor, West, AND Chamberlain? My GOD, they'd be illegal!!!!
When people talk about the GOAT, they are speaking of normal human beings that played the game and are held in such regard. When you talk about Wilt Chamberlain he was in another league or shall we say category. His size, strength and athletic ability were outside the scope of normal human beings. No one will ever match or beat the NBA records he put up, not in a thousand years. Imagine averaging 50 points a game and 25 rebounds for an entire season; who does that?! No one to this day has come close.
No one else has averaged 50. No one else has averaged 40. And he did this with a pretty good field goal percentage. And of course, the rebounding. Russell was the only one close to him there, and Wilt beat him more often than not.
@@michaelalbertson7457 Wilt's 2 championship squads were greater than any of Russell's 11. Russell played the Auerbach system his whole career. It was so successful that his teammates Tom Heinsohn and KC Jones would coach the Celtics under Auerbach as team exec and still won championships. When you talk about Russell all you can talk about is championships. Wilt has championships and so much more on top of that.
Maybe the most impressive stat was that Wilt averaged 48.5 minutes a game one season. Wilt only missed 8 minutes of play the entire season. I can't imagine anyone ever accomplishing that.
@@aimpointrod Definitely impressive. And I don't think anybody, except maybe Wilt, has averaged more than 43 before or since. I haven't looked that up, so I could be mistaken. But in this case, I don't think so.
Wilt was such a guy, but his strength and his running speed (like a 48 second 400) just blew my mind. Russell could also run a 48 second 400 but he was nowhere near as strong as Wilt.
@@ChessJourneyman48 seconds would have won heat 2 in the 1960 Olympics, and been competitive in the others. Olympic record going in was 45.9. So 48 was good for an untrained person at the time.
Wilt was also a NCAA Champ in the High Jump for Kansas. But A person who was even more accomplished than wilt in Sports....He won the Decathlon and Pentathlon in the same olympics was Jim Thorpe. He is not mentioned because of the DEI Agenda in sports today....as well as Society.
Watching old films of Wilt, racing down the court with those huge strides, just blowing past other players, is a freaky thing to see! He would sometimes play the guard position, just to show how versatile and quick he was.
But the Clippers do treat him well... Jerry West says it's too late for him to reconcile with the Lakers. BTW: currently the Clippers have an 11 game winning streak over the Lakers. The Buss children have been detrimental to the Lakers.
The Lakers lost their luster long ago. I attended games during that 71-72 season, as well as during the Magic Johnson era and the Kobe/Shaq years as well. I about bled purple and gold. Now I mostly ignore sports altogether, but I will root for the Lakers to lose if I even think about them. Their current "superstar" has ruined it all for me, and I would rather have seen them lose to Miami a couple of years ago than see them tie the Celtics for most all-time NBA Championships with that clown on the team. Jeannie Buss has failed her father's legacy, sadly. Outside of that one season, they have been a disaster. The days of West, Goodrich, Chamberlain, Baylor and the later dynasty teams were different. I'm glad I experienced those times. I've nothing good to say about today's NBA.
@@Elite59blame lebron the common denominator he’s holding the team back didn’t you guys draft Brandon Ingram Ky kuzma alex Caruso thj and lonzo but who had all of them traded 😂😂😂😂😂😂 lebron
I enjoyed listening to this. Jerry West was a great player. If the Celtics had not been so good or the Lakers had a bit more help he would have won 4 championships maybe. My uncle met him in the late 1970"s. At some basketball tournament. My uncle could hit 100 free throws in a row. He was the man.
@@derrickdubose9171 Yes. I didn't know this. The players used to be in the pocket of NBA owners till 1976. A lot has changed since then. Their pay being the most.
@@paulstone3590 In the original free agency (in the seventies), teams were to be compensated for their loss. Part of the compensation for Gail Goodrich signing with the New Orleans Jazz was the Lakers receiving the Jazz's draft pick, that was used to select Magic. With no free agency, imagine LeBron in Cleveland his full career, without his leaving that resulted in the picks used Irving and the pick Wiggins traded for Love. He would probably have a similar career as West. Good enough to force his way into the Finals, only to lose to a better team.
@@derrickdubose9171 Absolutely correct. Players in 1960s and 1970s got the short end of the stick. Not only in teammates but pay. The owners reaped the bulk of the profits. Sad for the players. But one good thing was the basketball was better. Team focused. The players had to do what they were told or else. So fans got better entertainment.
Hearing a great like West tell an everyday story about a great like Chamberlain can't be anything but epic. I'm from SoCal. Born in 55. I saw these guys play live on TV. Treasured memories.
Loved those Lakers. The only Laker game I've ever seen was in 67 or 68, Don't remember who they were playing that night. The 1 thing I do remember was we were in the nosebleed seats, and the only player we could really see was Wilt, everyone else looked like Ants. I've always been a fan of Jerry an Wilt. Thank you for the stories.
I was 15 years old playing BB in a Sunday night league at our local YWCA in Atlantic City. We played a team from Olyny part of Philadelphia. I was selected to jump center against Wilt. I was 5’10”. When he jumped, I stayed on the ground. We lost.
I would have to put Andre the Giant (when he was still in good physical condition) above Wilt Chamberlain as far as strength, all of Andre's friends and his Handler Tim White have mentioned he never actually went to the gym and lifted weights. If he had decided to get into it, he would probably hold every weightlifting record there is. Some drunk idiots in a bar were hassling him and throwing beer cans at his head he chased them outside and flipped over their car with the four of them in it like it was nothing. The best part is when the cops got there they arrested the four guys for causing a disturbance because they didn't believe their story that this giant guy had come along and flipped over the car all by himself LOL😂
I was lucky enough to see the Lakers play their away game on ktla5 with Chick Hearn and to this day you can't 3 finer people associated in an organization announcing and playing the game. Wilt, West and Chick
Lotsa we Laker fans still around who were here in Socal watching great teams and games called by the incomparable Chick Hearn and commentator Keith Erickson (also an ex-player, not to mention Lynn Shackleford, UCLA star who did the commentary previous) You just can't handle the class difference haha.
@@bradbrothers4243 I am among them. I was 12 years old at the time, but I went to a number of games in that amazing 71-72 season, with the 69-13 record and the 33 game winning streak. I got to meet Jerry West, Pat Reilly and Gail Goodrich at signing events that year. And one could always walk over to see Chick and Lynn (or Erickson or Lantz) at their broadcasting desks at the old Forum and get an autograph. I witnessed the later eras of Lakers championships too, but those memories of West Chamberlain, Happy Hairston and that amazing team will always stand out. As for the troll just above who projected his BS on @rodneysmith247, you can tell who the real posers are when they call out others they do not know. Even the troll's user name tells what a phony he is. I'll take Rodney at his word.
certain celebrities should be considered national treasures and i think jerry west and dolly parton should be at the top of the list. their classiness and what they have contributed to their respective fields is beyond comprehension.
100points in a game then top 20 points ever scored he has 12 of the 20 ! Never fouled out of a game record for rebounds 1 game like 55 ! He is the goat in his era!
You also can't forget Cale Sanderson....A four time NCAA wrestling champ who never lost a match....or Rocky Marciano "who never lost" You just can't mention them among the GOAT because of their color. Throw in Emile Zatopek...the only man to win the 5,000, 10,000 and Marathon in the same Olympics...That would upset the Kenyan Dominance Theory.
And this is why you can only say about any truly great player, that they are the best "of their era"!...It is true of other fields of endeavor as well. Time, and place, mean a lot...Wilt, IMO, would still be a star player nowadays...but the competition he would face today is just even better than in his era. No matter...it is all about time and place.
I was at the USA vs USSR track and field meet , University Of California Berkeley , beautiful campus, Redwood saplings all around , thought I saw one moving , it was Wilt ...
I had a crazy physical job when I was about 26. I had to eat like 5-6k calories a day to keep up. I dont even wanna think about how much food somebody like wilt would need on a daily basis while being a professional athlete. And I am only 6 feet tall and weighed around 190 then
The 7up story is true, Chamberlain said it. I have to think when he got to pro volleyball he learned more about nutrition and fitness as he was much more fit and trim compared to his later basketball years.
And what the press will not mention that one time in L.A. back in the 80's Wilt was walking near the beach one night when a Crip Gang Member pulled a gun on him. Wilt managed to get the gun away...throw it into the ocean...He backhanded the crip in the face....Booted him in the ass so hard that the crip fell down and stayed there for a few minutes. Wilt then yanked off his blue do rag and told him if he ever saw him again he would punk him out till he cried and begged for mercy. That gang member later was confirmed to have quite the crips and got his degree in public service.
❤I have never seen any evidence that Wilt lied or exaggerated anything.The fact u might find something hard to believe or beyond your abilities doesnt make it untrue.
Unfortunately only one out of every ten games Wilt played is on tape. This means 90% of his career is only captured in the memories of those who saw him play. So as awesome as the highlights of his various dunks, blocks, rebounds and hustle appear, most of his career is unrecorded.
wilt is the goat...not even close. the thing about russell during all his championships he was surrounded by hall of fame players. look up how many unknown players have 5 6,7 rings because they were sitting on the bench because of those HOF players.
Shook hands with the late Wilt Chamberlain, @ Anaheim Convention Center.. i’ve always wondered why Elgin Baylor, Jerry West, Wilt Chamberlain, couldn’t win early championships against Boston. The only thing come up with so much limelight in LA. advantage Boston.
Talk about getting deep - you done exceeded my hip waders, I need my ROWBOAT. I'm not sure where in NC that New River is at, but I KNOW where Pendleton is at.
With that damn super team in Boston Wilt Should’ve went and joined West and Baylor much sooner. Theyd both have more rings they’d been that eras Shaq and Kobe lol
Wilt had is own sports car made for his personal use that could drive 180- 200 mph, he also had a RollsRoyce that had a top speed of 112 miles an hour? The RollsRoyce would probably take about 30 hours or less to make New york to San Francisco but his sports car at 130 mph could make the trip in 23 hours? So Wilt was arguably on the mark on the trip, he also suffered from a sleep disorder and didn't eat for days and spent much of his time at a night club he owned. What do you do when you cannot sleep, well according to Wilt he either drove nearly 3000 miles or found female companionship and he got very few complaints from his car or women, except from the media?
@@italianwaterice9594 The Cannonball Run normal route goes from NY to San Francisco. The current record is 25 hours and change, at 110 MPH average. Wilt did NOT make that run in 23 hours though, as the Interstate Highway System mostly DID NOT EXIST and had a lot of gaps when Wilt would have been doing that drive - and there's no way he could average 100 MPH even driving largely on US Highways instead. 7 days on the other hand is ALSO bull - I've driven 2000 miles in an E250 in less than 3 days, so figure 5 AT MOST for the full distance - and that was WITH SLEEP STOPS every night and close to 4000 pounds of stuff in the back.
@@italianwaterice9594 ... At the risk of being argumentative, I have driven 18-wheelers that far in 3 days. Not legally and probably not safely, but I've done it more than once. Wouldn't try it now.
@@italianwaterice9594 Wilt had his own sports car built (looks like a bugatti) and he drove fast, didn't sleep except every three or four days! Statistically wilts 100 point game occurred when everything came together perfectly (look at the games before hand 80 attempts? 50.4 points a game ) and prior to the recent attempts to cross the continent by fast car, if you have the (80 plus attempts) could lead to the perfect opportunity, absolute good weather and the less 'radar speed technology' its Statistically possible to do the journey in 23 hours? I'm not saying it happened but then people on the Internet target wilts legendary achievements all the time, but then look at the NBA's record book and he literally owns it, except for those they added after his and Bill Russell’s retirement?
@@allistermcginlay6476 did you know Wilts 100 pt game was in Hershey pa on a shorter court where he literally cherry picked inbounds passes to get the 100 pts,,, why do you think theres no TV coverage,,, its a facade to save the NBA back in the early days
Can't do it anymore... but. Some young healthy men who are athletic, can eat ENORMOUS amounts of food. I was one of those men. There are plenty of others, just ask around, and you will meet some.
Bill Russell could actually eat more than Wilt could but chose not to. He would make his team mates better eaters and the team would finish the whole meal together. That food would have gone to waste if not for the intangibles of Bill. He would have made Jerry eat more than a little slice of brisket sandwich. Wilt was a selfish eater for finishing all the food by himself. That's why Bill threw up before each game. Not because of nerves. He ate too much the day before.
Ah wilt was wilt with his stories.. But on the court nobody could deal with his raw strength.. Wilt was amazing and no one since can compare..I enjoyed Wilt a whole lot all the time.. bs or whatever.. his court records are the best..
New york to san fran...in 23 hrs.... He had a custom car capable of this...... but I doubt it.... I see 2 cannonball runs in about the same time using all types of tech to evade police....
Average 5 women per week that's 250 per year for 30 years that's 7500. I lived in Boca where he had a restaurant in the 90's, he was still hitting on every beautiful woman that walked in. So maybe not 20k but still respectable. lol
Then there was the time Chuck visited Hogwarts. A brash young wizard was showing off the sword of Gryffindor and accidentally slashed Chuck. Chuck got stronger
I know that sounds impossible but I have heard a story of someone close to Wilt that said he was in a hotel and there was a line of women down the hallway waiting their turn to be with Wilt.
I love Wilt but he just didn't win as much as he was supposed to. Its hard to consider him the goat especially considering his athletic prowess. A guy that can score 100 point should have 2 to 3 rings the fact he has so many broken records and only 1 ring to me speaks volumes of how much his play style didn't amount to winning
Wilt has two rings, and is the only one who beat 60's Celtics at the time of no free agency, this was something Baylor, West or Robertson never managed. It's a bit like LeBron going against 2017 Warriors for the best part of his career. There is only so much one player can do, basketball is a team sport.
@@johnhardman825thank you, it wssntno free agency back then, so it took you three to five years to get a nucleus of big threes, Chamberlain, Greer and Walker that nucleus won 69 games a single season winning pot record at the time and top it off with a chip
Michael Jordan has no case to be the number 1 NBA player of all time. He has no case to be the number 1 NBA shooting guard of all time. He never had a case to be the number 1 NBA player when he was in the NBA. If you are going to rank players, lots of players are better than him. Lots of players could beat him in a one on one game. He doesn't have the best NBA statistics of all time. He is not the best scorer of all time. He is the most overrated sports star in the history of mankind. And I could give you more examples, but you get the point.............Also, Michael Jordan fans have lots of takes where they are wrong, or where they make things up, or where they contradict themselves, or where they move the goal post, or where they don't do enough research, or where they cherry pick things, or where they are not consistent, or where they react in a negative way if someone has a take that they think is taking away from Michael Jordan..........Also, Michael Jordan fans are the worst sports fans of all time, and they are the flat Earthers of the NBA world then.....................Now, if you disagree, you can go on my program and show me why you are right. If you want to go on email TheTelephoneUniverse@Gmail.Com...........And now watch how most Michael Jordan fans will ignore all this, and they won't go on my podcast to show me how they're right on whatever they disagree on, and they will get annoyed, and they will write something negative online...........and you know why they are like this?.............Because they know that they have no proof that will prove that I am wrong on whatever they disagree on, and they are in love with Michael Jordan, and they have too much pride to admit that they are wrong in anything, and they are not educated on the NBA.
Honestly I think the whole GOAT debate is endlessly pointless. So many variables you could choose to add and weigh, or ignore. Wilt happens to be the guy I consider to be the most individually dominant basketball player ever but by metrics like how many rings/back to back championships it's going to be somebody else. Certain things cannot be captured by metrics. How much did a player improve his team as a whole? How good were his team mates individually and how good was the synergy, did the guys get along etc.
I love Wilt chamberlain stories. This is a legend speaking on a legend.
I was at a Philadelphia game in 1966 and went down to the floor when Wilt was sitting there before the game. I looked at his Shoes that he was putting on and asked him what size they were. His response was, "Why is that Boy, you want to buy me a pair"!
Wilt the 🐐
My dream team:
Wilt, Bill Russell, Bird, Jordan, and Magic.
For me, MJ is the goat, but I think Wilt is arguably the most gifted physical athlete to ever live.
Wilt is and always will be the GOAT, there's Wilt then everyone else. Love MJ, but he doesn't compare
@@piercekuhn absolutely
Wilt is like a mythical creature. The stories continue to add to the legend
Back in the 70's I drove a taxi for a short time when I first moved to L.A. Whenever we would drop someone off at LAX we would park in a holding area and wait our turn to pick up a passenger who had just landed. As I'm sitting there I notice this very large man who could be Wilt Chamberlain talking to a few of the other cab drivers. By the time I left ( about 45 minutes later) he was still talking to these cabbies. But not only talking, but you would have thought all of them were best friends. He was super friendly and sincere. I was very impressed with this man and how he engaged people.
Wilt said to MJs face "The difference between you and me is that they had to change the rules so l couldn't dominate. They changed the rules so that you could.” MJ had no rebuttal.
Because there was none: Checkmate
What was the rule change? He wasn't allowed to pass the ball and had to ball hog? I guess Bill Russel didn't read that rule.
@@ac4185 MULTIPLE rule changes.
Widen the lane from 12' to 16'.
Offensive Goaltending (though Bill Russell probably had some input into that one).
Free Throw must leave your hand before you cross the line of the free throw line (Wilt is known to have been able to DUNK from the free throw line with a 2-3 step start as a freshman in college - unknown if he could do it from a standing start AT the line but you were not required to BE at the line for the shot - just behind it).
Just from the top of my head.
The only major change I can remember from the MJ era was the Flagrant Foul rule growing teeth (after the 1990 Finals) - but that was more do to dirty players like Laimbeer, even if it DID help MJ indirectly.
@@ac4185 ball hog but has an assist title? how much assist titles does jordan have?
That’s because there wasn’t one
For those wondering, this happened in Wilt's last NBA season. He actually got 26 rebounds in that game against the Kings.
Wilt averaged 22.9 rebounds a game for his career. Wilt was different.
Often,, many of wilt's. Records,,they just handed him the 🏀 🏀 basketball,, easy.. unlike today..
@@IronMike-f8i
What you are saying is that other players wern’t competitive around Wilt-in other words, they didn’t try. I doubt this. The game plan may have been to feed Wilt the ball, but that’s different. Other teams aren’t just letting him score or giving him rebounds. He played against other good players. People are competitive, especially at the pro level. Who would want to play giving up like you are saying or watch that?
I never pass on a Jerry West interview.
So just so you know I've got tons of them on my page then.
I met Wilt at Santa Monica Beach playing volleyball. He was such great fun and nice to everybody.
i sat next to him at a tourney i Laguna Beach around the same time. i gave him a beer and said to be cool, as the cops sometimes waljed by. when he left, he turned and thanked me and shook my hand.
i as well, i also did a tri triathalon and witness a life long memory of Lew Alcinder was beyond rude to a 7 year old that asked for an autograph , not knowing how it must drain a celebrity to engage in my opinion Lew was way out of line i will never forget what i saw with Wilt and with Lew
When I was an elementary school kid in the San Diego area of SoCal, Jerry West, Wilt Chamberlain, and Elgin Baylor were household names. We'd pretended that we were them on the court to experience that sense of Lakers greatness. Even though we had the Elvin Hayes led Rockets back then, the Lakers were the team we rooted for! Enjoyed Jerry's accounts of Wilt. Thanks for sharing.
Not true. I grew up in San Diego also and remember the Rockets. Calvin Murphy lived next door to a friend of mine. I rooted for the Rockets. These days I am Clippers fan.
Jerry Always has been Pure Class'
The year the Lakers won the chip in '71-72 with Jerry West and Wilt, West led the NBA in assists and averaged 25.8 points a game. 🔥
Excellent comment.
Jerry is a very special man. And a great basketball man... AND he is funny!!! Thank you.
West was a great player overall, and really good in the clutch! I would compare him to Havlicek--even though John was a small forward...they both had that extra-spark of awareness on the court, and were so often the difference in a game.
How Kool was this!! West was the engineer of the Lakers and WILT was the Machine. Just keep WILT happy with food and you can get 180% production from him. WILT sounds like a fantastic man to know and laugh with. LOVE IT!!! :)
My first and best sports hero.... I love this man. There's one item on my bucket list, shake the hand of Mr West.
I got to shake his hand in ‘69 at a basketball camp where he was a guest instructor. The camp was held in the mountains of Virginia and run by a number of coaches from the Southern Conference. When we signed up for the camp we didn’t know West would be there. Among other things, he put on a shooting exhibition for us, played in a game with the camp counselors, who were players from SoCon schools, and handed out awards at the conclusion of the camp. That’s how I got to shake his hand. He was a very sincere and down to earth man and I wish I’d understood then just what a privilege it was for us for him to have taken the time to be there.
Heard so many great storys about Wilt. Wish I had a chance to meet him. Of all the great black super stars including Ali to meet, it would be hands down for me Wilt. Not just the physical talent, but charisma, the intelligence,, the humor, the guy had it all.
So Wilt wasn't just a legendary scorer and rebounder, he was also a legendary eater and drinker!
Elgin Baylor in his autobiography confirms Wilt's culinary appetite, too.
He was also the biggest shit makers of all time
🦄 haha
If Wilt had joined the Lakers in 1962, Russell would have maybe 4 or 5 rings, and Wilt would have at least that. Bill Russel was my favorite player in the 1960s, so I'm not showing Wilt any favortism. I'm old enough to remember the Lakers with the great Elgin Baylor and Jerry West. They took the Celtics to 7 games in the NBA finals several times, losing them all. Can you imagine prime Baylor, West, AND Chamberlain? My GOD, they'd be illegal!!!!
@@milojanis4901 Great point!
When people talk about the GOAT, they are speaking of normal human beings that played the game and are held in such regard. When you talk about Wilt Chamberlain he was in another league or shall we say category. His size, strength and athletic ability were outside the scope of normal human beings. No one will ever match or beat the NBA records he put up, not in a thousand years. Imagine averaging 50 points a game and 25 rebounds for an entire season; who does that?! No one to this day has come close.
No one else has averaged 50.
No one else has averaged 40.
And he did this with a pretty good field goal percentage.
And of course, the rebounding. Russell was the only one close to him there, and Wilt beat him more often than not.
@@corbinmcnabb Bill beat Wilt more often than not, in what counted most....championships.
@@michaelalbertson7457 Wilt's 2 championship squads were greater than any of Russell's 11. Russell played the Auerbach system his whole career. It was so successful that his teammates Tom Heinsohn and KC Jones would coach the Celtics under Auerbach as team exec and still won championships. When you talk about Russell all you can talk about is championships. Wilt has championships and so much more on top of that.
Maybe the most impressive stat was that Wilt averaged 48.5 minutes a game one season. Wilt only missed 8 minutes of play the entire season. I can't imagine anyone ever accomplishing that.
@@aimpointrod Definitely impressive. And I don't think anybody, except maybe Wilt, has averaged more than 43 before or since.
I haven't looked that up, so I could be mistaken.
But in this case, I don't think so.
No load management for Wilt ..he played the whole game and every game in the season!
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Wilt was the only player ever to average MORE than 48 minutes per game for a season.....!!!!
@@iwshamrock4908I'm pretty sure that record is safe for all time
@@tupacalypse88 As are many of his scoring and rebounding numbers.
@@joelwexler yup wilt has 5 of the top 6 ppg seasons and he's over 13 points higher than MJ's 5th place season pretty crazy
R.I.P Jerry.
Wilt was such a guy, but his strength and his running speed (like a 48 second 400) just blew my mind. Russell could also run a 48 second 400 but he was nowhere near as strong as Wilt.
Wilt and Russell were so good they could've qualified for the Olympics but turned pro instead.
@@aarondigby505448 is slow as fuck for the Olympics...but fast for the sloths that play basketball.
@@ChessJourneyman48 seconds would have won heat 2 in the 1960 Olympics, and been competitive in the others. Olympic record going in was 45.9. So 48 was good for an untrained person at the time.
Wilt was also a NCAA Champ in the High Jump for Kansas. But A person who was even more accomplished than wilt in Sports....He won the Decathlon and Pentathlon in the same olympics was Jim Thorpe. He is not mentioned because of the DEI Agenda in sports today....as well as Society.
Watching old films of Wilt, racing down the court with those huge strides, just blowing past other players, is a freaky thing to see! He would sometimes play the guard position, just to show how versatile and quick he was.
Jerry West is a legend. Too bad the Lakers don't treat him that way anymore.
But the Clippers do treat him well... Jerry West says it's too late for him to reconcile with the Lakers. BTW: currently the Clippers have an 11 game winning streak over the Lakers. The Buss children have been detrimental to the Lakers.
The Lakers lost their luster long ago. I attended games during that 71-72 season, as well as during the Magic Johnson era and the Kobe/Shaq years as well. I about bled purple and gold. Now I mostly ignore sports altogether, but I will root for the Lakers to lose if I even think about them. Their current "superstar" has ruined it all for me, and I would rather have seen them lose to Miami a couple of years ago than see them tie the Celtics for most all-time NBA Championships with that clown on the team. Jeannie Buss has failed her father's legacy, sadly. Outside of that one season, they have been a disaster. The days of West, Goodrich, Chamberlain, Baylor and the later dynasty teams were different. I'm glad I experienced those times. I've nothing good to say about today's NBA.
@@Elite59blame lebron the common denominator he’s holding the team back didn’t you guys draft Brandon Ingram Ky kuzma alex Caruso thj and lonzo but who had all of them traded 😂😂😂😂😂😂 lebron
@@ye87it’s all LeBum’s fault, he ruined their legacy
I enjoyed listening to this. Jerry West was a great player. If the Celtics had not been so good or the Lakers had a bit more help he would have won 4 championships maybe.
My uncle met him in the late 1970"s. At some basketball tournament. My uncle could hit 100 free throws in a row. He was the man.
Also, if there was free agency.
@@derrickdubose9171 Yes. I didn't know this. The players used to be in the pocket of NBA owners till 1976. A lot has changed since then. Their pay being the most.
@@paulstone3590 In the original free agency (in the seventies), teams were to be compensated for their loss. Part of the compensation for Gail Goodrich signing with the New Orleans Jazz was the Lakers receiving the Jazz's draft pick, that was used to select Magic. With no free agency, imagine LeBron in Cleveland his full career, without his leaving that resulted in the picks used Irving and the pick Wiggins traded for Love. He would probably have a similar career as West. Good enough to force his way into the Finals, only to lose to a better team.
@@derrickdubose9171 Absolutely correct. Players in 1960s and 1970s got the short end of the stick. Not only in teammates but pay. The owners reaped the bulk of the profits. Sad for the players. But one good thing was the basketball was better. Team focused. The players had to do what they were told or else. So fans got better entertainment.
Hearing a great like West tell an everyday story about a great like Chamberlain can't be anything but epic. I'm from SoCal. Born in 55. I saw these guys play live on TV. Treasured memories.
Jerry West talking about my other hero, Wilt. I started following the Lakers in the fall of 1968. I have been a fan of them ever since.
1970 for me .I was in 1st grade.
Bill, Oscar, Elgin, Jerry, etc. these guys and every other NBA great were special players. Wilt Chamberlain was just an all around special person.
I went to Overbrook High School with Wilt, Wilt was my high school life
What you went to high school with fuckin chamberlain .....the wilt chamberlain who tore up the nba records guys are chasing.
Loved those Lakers. The only Laker game I've ever seen was in 67 or 68, Don't remember who they were playing that night. The 1 thing I do remember was we were in the nosebleed seats, and the only player we could really see was Wilt, everyone else looked like Ants. I've always been a fan of Jerry an Wilt. Thank you for the stories.
Wilt Chamberlain - Lord Of Domination!
I love Jerry West.
The manager Jerry was talking about was Fred Schaus, who was Jerry's basketball coach at W. Virginia, then became Lakers coach, then GM.
YayFred Schaus! He was Terrific!
I was 15 years old playing BB in a Sunday night league at our local YWCA in Atlantic City. We played a team from Olyny part of Philadelphia. I was selected to jump center against Wilt. I was 5’10”. When he jumped, I stayed on the ground. We lost.
Chamberlain was an exceptional all-around athlete, and due to a combination of size and unique musculature, may have been the strongest man ever.
I would have to put Andre the Giant (when he was still in good physical condition) above Wilt Chamberlain as far as strength, all of Andre's friends and his Handler Tim White have mentioned he never actually went to the gym and lifted weights. If he had decided to get into it, he would probably hold every weightlifting record there is.
Some drunk idiots in a bar were hassling him and throwing beer cans at his head he chased them outside and flipped over their car with the four of them in it like it was nothing. The best part is when the cops got there they arrested the four guys for causing a disturbance because they didn't believe their story that this giant guy had come along and flipped over the car all by himself LOL😂
I was lucky enough to see the Lakers play their away game on ktla5 with Chick Hearn and to this day you can't 3 finer people associated in an organization announcing and playing the game. Wilt, West and Chick
No you didnt troll
Lotsa we Laker fans still around who were here in Socal watching great teams and games called by the incomparable Chick Hearn and commentator Keith Erickson (also an ex-player, not to mention Lynn Shackleford, UCLA star who did the commentary previous) You just can't handle the class difference haha.
@@bradbrothers4243 I am among them. I was 12 years old at the time, but I went to a number of games in that amazing 71-72 season, with the 69-13 record and the 33 game winning streak. I got to meet Jerry West, Pat Reilly and Gail Goodrich at signing events that year. And one could always walk over to see Chick and Lynn (or Erickson or Lantz) at their broadcasting desks at the old Forum and get an autograph. I witnessed the later eras of Lakers championships too, but those memories of West Chamberlain, Happy Hairston and that amazing team will always stand out.
As for the troll just above who projected his BS on @rodneysmith247, you can tell who the real posers are when they call out others they do not know. Even the troll's user name tells what a phony he is. I'll take Rodney at his word.
RIP Jerry
certain celebrities should be considered national treasures and i think jerry west and dolly parton should be at the top of the list. their classiness and what they have contributed to their respective fields is beyond comprehension.
love Mr. Wesr
100points in a game then top 20 points ever scored he has 12 of the 20 ! Never fouled out of a game record for rebounds 1 game like 55 ! He is the goat in his era!
You also can't forget Cale Sanderson....A four time NCAA wrestling champ who never lost a match....or Rocky Marciano "who never lost" You just can't mention them among the GOAT because of their color. Throw in Emile Zatopek...the only man to win the 5,000, 10,000 and Marathon in the same Olympics...That would upset the Kenyan Dominance Theory.
@@danielbrown3461 wow! O.k.! Talking about basketball! Thanks for the info !
Other goats in their field need to be mentioned @@rodericksmith7232
And this is why you can only say about any truly great player, that they are the best "of their era"!...It is true of other fields of endeavor as well. Time, and place, mean a lot...Wilt, IMO, would still be a star player nowadays...but the competition he would face today is just even better than in his era. No matter...it is all about time and place.
Correction, every era
Great stories. Thanks.
5:42 that is so friggen funny...
I'd say the NYC to SF is doable in that amount of time if Wilt was driving. He's known for driving 170 mph+ I believe he did it.
R.I.P Mr. West
Man i wish he would tell some stories of playing with Wilt....i love the personal stories too but id like hearing some play stories.
I was at the USA vs USSR track and field meet , University Of California Berkeley , beautiful campus, Redwood saplings all around , thought I saw one moving , it was Wilt ...
I had a crazy physical job when I was about 26. I had to eat like 5-6k calories a day to keep up. I dont even wanna think about how much food somebody like wilt would need on a daily basis while being a professional athlete. And I am only 6 feet tall and weighed around 190 then
Just think if Wilt, Jerry, Elgin would have played 5 - 10 years.
5-10 championships easy
The GOAT.
No doubt about it.
Legendary Gem
The 7up story is true, Chamberlain said it. I have to think when he got to pro volleyball he learned more about nutrition and fitness as he was much more fit and trim compared to his later basketball years.
Jerry West is hands down the most successful person in NBA history.
I lived across the hall in a dormitory at Kansas university from wilt. We that knew him then have plenty of stories. He was a lot of fun
I met him as look into his belly button the look up and recognized him. He gave me the that big smile and said hi. Wow those hands RIP Wilt
And what the press will not mention that one time in L.A. back in the 80's Wilt was walking near the beach one night when a Crip Gang Member pulled a gun on him. Wilt managed to get the gun away...throw it into the ocean...He backhanded the crip in the face....Booted him in the ass so hard that the crip fell down and stayed there for a few minutes. Wilt then yanked off his blue do rag and told him if he ever saw him again he would punk him out till he cried and begged for mercy. That gang member later was confirmed to have quite the crips and got his degree in public service.
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LOOOOOL holy fuck ....... thats hilarious wilt takes a gun and yeets it to the ocean. Like you wont need this anymore.
❤I have never seen any evidence that Wilt lied or exaggerated anything.The fact u might find something hard to believe or beyond your abilities doesnt make it untrue.
I spent a weekend around Wilt when he was 50. Based on what I observed, I have no doubt 20,000 was accurate and perhaps even a little low.
Oscar and Jerry were the 2 best NBA players in the 1960s .
Wilt and Russell were big , that's why they dominated .
RIP Wilt
RIP Mr West
Unfortunately only one out of every ten games Wilt played is on tape. This means 90% of his career is only captured in the memories of those who saw him play. So as awesome as the highlights of his various dunks, blocks, rebounds and hustle appear, most of his career is unrecorded.
wilt is the goat...not even close. the thing about russell during all his championships he was surrounded by hall of fame players. look up how many unknown players have 5 6,7 rings because they were sitting on the bench because of those HOF players.
Thanks
New York to San Diego in 23 1/2 hours, and he probably did it in that VW Rabbit they used on the commercial.
Shook hands with the late Wilt Chamberlain, @ Anaheim Convention Center.. i’ve always wondered why Elgin Baylor, Jerry West, Wilt Chamberlain, couldn’t win early championships against Boston. The only thing come up with so much limelight in LA. advantage Boston.
I drove a hummer from New River Air Station in NC to Camp Pendleton, CA in 8 hours.
your gava a hummer you mean
@italianwaterice9594 learn the language before you try to talk sh*t kid.
Talk about getting deep - you done exceeded my hip waders, I need my ROWBOAT.
I'm not sure where in NC that New River is at, but I KNOW where Pendleton is at.
New River in ‘73-‘74. MABS-26
You will pardon me if I'm, eh, (how to put this politely) NOT CONVINCED that you drive a hummer an average of 375 miles per hour.
GREAT Q STORY MY TOWN MY BBQ JOINT
Wilt Chamberlain is my GOAT
2900 miles in 23 hours = 126 MPH, which is over-exaggerating, juts a touch.
Saying “over exaggerating” is exaggerating. You don’t need the “over”
Is Fred Schaus the general manager that West is referring to?
Yes
who is the woman interviewing off screen?
With that damn super team in Boston Wilt Should’ve went and joined West and Baylor much sooner. Theyd both have more rings they’d been that eras Shaq and Kobe lol
Didn't he say that drive was non-stop? Car had special gas tanks? (hate to pay to fill it)
Nice
Wilt had is own sports car made for his personal use that could drive 180- 200 mph, he also had a RollsRoyce that had a top speed of 112 miles an hour?
The RollsRoyce would probably take about 30 hours or less to make New york to San Francisco but his sports car at 130 mph could make the trip in 23 hours?
So Wilt was arguably on the mark on the trip, he also suffered from a sleep disorder and didn't eat for days and spent much of his time at a night club he owned.
What do you do when you cannot sleep, well according to Wilt he either drove nearly 3000 miles or found female companionship and he got very few complaints from his car or women, except from the media?
that ride takes almost 7 days,,,, youre so far off on this bs story
@@italianwaterice9594 The Cannonball Run normal route goes from NY to San Francisco.
The current record is 25 hours and change, at 110 MPH average.
Wilt did NOT make that run in 23 hours though, as the Interstate Highway System mostly DID NOT EXIST and had a lot of gaps when Wilt would have been doing that drive - and there's no way he could average 100 MPH even driving largely on US Highways instead.
7 days on the other hand is ALSO bull - I've driven 2000 miles in an E250 in less than 3 days, so figure 5 AT MOST for the full distance - and that was WITH SLEEP STOPS every night and close to 4000 pounds of stuff in the back.
@@italianwaterice9594 ... At the risk of being argumentative, I have driven 18-wheelers that far in 3 days. Not legally and probably not safely, but I've done it more than once. Wouldn't try it now.
@@italianwaterice9594 Wilt had his own sports car built (looks like a bugatti) and he drove fast, didn't sleep except every three or four days!
Statistically wilts 100 point game occurred when everything came together perfectly (look at the games before hand 80 attempts? 50.4 points a game ) and prior to the recent attempts to cross the continent by fast car, if you have the (80 plus attempts) could lead to the perfect opportunity, absolute good weather and the less 'radar speed technology' its Statistically possible to do the journey in 23 hours?
I'm not saying it happened but then people on the Internet target wilts legendary achievements all the time, but then look at the NBA's record book and he literally owns it, except for those they added after his and Bill Russell’s retirement?
@@allistermcginlay6476 did you know Wilts 100 pt game was in Hershey pa on a shorter court where he literally cherry picked inbounds passes to get the 100 pts,,, why do you think theres no TV coverage,,, its a facade to save the NBA back in the early days
Can't do it anymore... but. Some young healthy men who are athletic, can eat ENORMOUS amounts of food. I was one of those men. There are plenty of others, just ask around, and you will meet some.
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Bill Russell could actually eat more than Wilt could but chose not to. He would make his team mates better eaters and the team would finish the whole meal together. That food would have gone to waste if not for the intangibles of Bill. He would have made Jerry eat more than a little slice of brisket sandwich. Wilt was a selfish eater for finishing all the food by himself. That's why Bill threw up before each game. Not because of nerves. He ate too much the day before.
Inspired
Beautiful😂😂
Doubtful as Wilt was quite a bit larger than Bill. By the looks of Shaq, he could out eat either!
It was proven that Wilt Challenged Russell to a Rib Eating contest one night in 1968 and halfway through the contest Russell threw up.
Ah wilt was wilt with his stories.. But on the court nobody could deal with his raw strength.. Wilt was amazing and no one since can compare..I enjoyed Wilt a whole lot all the time.. bs or whatever.. his court records are the best..
He was also an NCAA champion in the High Jump.
In a 7 game stretch he dropped 350pts total.
Greatest NBA player of all time? Wilt Chamberlain.
I was a kid in the sixties, and have watched them all since then. I agree with you.
@@ron88303 some people barely have him in their Top 10 and one sports "expert" rated him 4th...AMONG CENTERS. Ridiculous.
i drove from st louis to philadelphia in 16hrs. i don't think you could make new york to san francisco in 23hrs.
New york to san fran...in 23 hrs.... He had a custom car capable of this...... but I doubt it.... I see 2 cannonball runs in about the same time using all types of tech to evade police....
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Not sure Wilt exaggerated too much about his driving.
Will would fast and have a big meal,he could eat that much he was a giant dude.
Bigger u are more food
Kobiashi told wilt to hold his beer. And wilt never challenged Andre the Giant to an eating contest.
Average 5 women per week that's 250 per year for 30 years that's 7500. I lived in Boca where he had a restaurant in the 90's, he was still hitting on every beautiful woman that walked in. So maybe not 20k but still respectable. lol
"He can't count very well", yet was on the University of Kansas Chess team... Look it up...
Jerry and Wilt are LEGEND
Chuck Norris tried to break wilts record with women but was disqualified because his lovemaking reopened the hole in The ozone
Then there was the time Chuck visited Hogwarts. A brash young wizard was showing off the sword of Gryffindor and accidentally slashed Chuck.
Chuck got stronger
I'm thinking, how much did he poop!?
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didnt he die in his early 60s? guess we know why.
the 20000 is BS he would have had 55 different women every month for over 30 years
I know that sounds impossible but I have heard a story of someone close to Wilt that said he was in a hotel and there was a line of women down the hallway waiting their turn to be with Wilt.
6:10 you sound so bitter : (
There are stories to tell about Kawhi and Paul George, so Wilt makes a good topic.
Kawhi and Paul George were never NCAA High Jump Champs like wilt was at Kansas.
I love Wilt but he just didn't win as much as he was supposed to. Its hard to consider him the goat especially considering his athletic prowess. A guy that can score 100 point should have 2 to 3 rings the fact he has so many broken records and only 1 ring to me speaks volumes of how much his play style didn't amount to winning
Russell had a better team than Wilt. If Wilt had been in Boston he would had a bunch of rings.
@@johnhardman825 We know. Doesn't change the fact that he should have won more he was such a dominating force.
Dude averaged 50 a game where is that in the playoffs 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Wilt has two rings, and is the only one who beat 60's Celtics at the time of no free agency, this was something Baylor, West or Robertson never managed.
It's a bit like LeBron going against 2017 Warriors for the best part of his career. There is only so much one player can do, basketball is a team sport.
@@johnhardman825thank you, it wssntno free agency back then, so it took you three to five years to get a nucleus of big threes, Chamberlain, Greer and Walker that nucleus won 69 games a single season winning pot record at the time and top it off with a chip
New York to San Fran in 23 hours huh😂😂😂
Meh, what does Jerry West know about basketball? Any number of YT experts say that Wilt would just be a bench warmer today.
Nephilim
They were wiped out in the flood. There is no biblical reference (at least that I’m aware of) that would suggest they exist today.
There is no evidence they ever existed.
@@steveswangler6373 there is no evidence that history is a lie
WILT IS DEAD…JERRY YOO. EVENTUALLY WE WILL ALL BE DEAD. 😵
It's a good thing Jerry West could play basketball because he sucks at storytelling.
I wonder which gates did wilt go to