Take toriel soul... Toriel can't possibly accidentally kill us 3 time right? With power of combine soul of human and monster the rest of the game shouldn't be a challenge. Tell asgore to don't show us the soul because "we can't take it". Beat asgore. Spare him, stop flowey from yeet asgore. Flowey can't take the human soul this time so beat him up. Tell asgore that you have a way to leave underground without his soul... Leave underground. Open a campaign tell other human to donate their soul to free monster... We just need one so someone must volunteer right? Take that soul and get back to underground give asgore the human soul tell him it's a donation from human. Free everyone... At a low low price of toriel... IS IT WORTH IT?
for starters id have kindness soul with (self) hate somewhat spreading on it, and right when i see flowey ill be as nice and cautious to him as possible and try to befriend him honestly i doubt id be able to befriend flowey so id just run away when he attacks me too many times i would now hide somewhere iin the ruins and tell my parents im in the underground (lets just say i had my phone and itd probably be cracked from the fall even if it was in my bag but whatever) i would maybe say hi to toriel then convince her to let me out of the ruins (im sorry goat lady), and uh snowdin stuff i guess id probably explore snowdin for a bit, i dont wanna make this comment like 999999 characters long so yea oh yea also at some point i would probably accidently drop my emotional support plush that i bring everywhere and go on a whole little alternate route to try and refind my plushie (i doubt he would survive the fall into the underground but lets just say he did) once i get to waterfall i would probably die to undyne and following the i can come back 3 times rule id respawn somewhere and be too scared to go back in waterfall so id just stay in snowdin or maybe even with toriel if she lets me back in the ruins and find some way to be able to log into roblox (also id really miss my 3 other favorite plushies so id either make new verisons of those or find a way to escape eventually..option 2 would eventually happen in the first place anyway) tl;dr: i wouldnt escape :D also edit: i forgot a few things but uh just ask me abt them if u want and ill tell what i think would happen :3
7:28 Hey bones, this is the door lady. Anyway, I'm gonna see if they'd allow us in the kitchen so me and Papyrus can resume cooking lessons... Being so close to hotland surely this kitchen should be more fireproof right? *_Burn down hotland!_*
The problem with using Vulkin or some other monster to leave the underground is that their souls are destroyed with their bodies when they die. Only the soul of a boss monster persists after death long enough for you to absorb it, so that means you need to kill Toriel or Asgore (or Gerson, maybe) if you want to leave. Regardless. I don't particularly like the idea of killing someone just to bail. If for some reason I got stuck in the Underground, I'd just do most what this video says but then promise Asgore he can have my soul after I die of old age or something. Actually, scrap that, I would donate my soul to Toriel instead when I inevitably kick the bucket. I trust her to enforce peace between humans and monsters much more.
@@Mr_questionman Can't you just attack the barrier with other souls without fusing? It is said that to break the barrier you need a force that is equivalent to 7 human souls. A monster with 7 human souls is not required.
@@Mr_questionmanbut you see, the souls arent broken yet, we could just give them back to their bodies and work together to break the barrier, or do like frisk did in the neutral against flowey by using the souls without necessarily fusing to them, which is almost the same thing
8:24 I don't think this way will work... Nobody would wanna sacrifice themselves, infact I think the only solution would be to take out your pocket flowey and make a deal... "Hey, I wanna get out with my soul in my body and you want Chara back right? Here's a bright idea I'm surprised you never thought of before: Gathering as many human souls as possible and just loading back to that specific era and while your still a living being, telling Chara: *_no."_* You'd find yourself walking through a much less hostile underground where all the humans that fell passed of natural causes or are still alive... Then... we're... back where we started... Maybe Flowey would have found a way to preserve Asgore or Toriels souls in preparation as gratitude maybe... who knows...
7:10 You don't have to eat the doughnut, just show it to her, heck offer it saying: "Hey I bought this doughnut, wanna split it before you bake this paying customer into a horrifying meat pie or whatever?" Or perhaps something less sarcastic...
I would describe it as a blind "playthrough" of Undertale, how a human would realistically go through this without knowing future events from playing the game beforehand, but it's difficult to fit everything into a RUclips Comment instead of a video format. I could try to summarize it. My thought process on the true pacifist ending would be to do pretty much everything as you would in Neutral, (Probably killing Flowey after he attempts to kill you and drops the "You know what's going on here..." line, which would either mean A) You are more determined like Frisk, meaning that the timeline continues, or B) The timeline ends as Flowey loads a save, like presumably the other 6 humans) If a save is loaded... good luck mate, but lets assume you are more determined. So, do everything the same, eventually get to the True Lab assuming you haven't harmed another monster since Toriel's existence / "training" shows that you can talk / run away from any situation. Eventually, you'd learn about Flowey's origins and could probably make an assumption that they can absorb any soul, after all, why would he have tried to kill you before? It's a gamble, but there aren't many alternatives. So, load a save (If you are more determined enough to continue the timeline but can't time travel, maybe you can inject yourself with some liquid DT while in the True Lab to make a single load) to the point before you killed Flowey, then *maybe* you can wait for Toriel to bail you out this time since you know she would arrive earlier, yada yada, you remind them of events that haven't happened yet due to their deja vu, and hopefully you end up back at The Barrier with one major difference, Flowey being alive. It was hypothesized that it would take the strength of nearly every monster's soul to equal one human soul, and hopefully you are correct in that Flowey can absorb a live monster's soul (With the help of the 6 human souls maybe). Blammo, you've got all 7 in a single person, now you just need to do the monumental task of convincing Asriel to break the barrier and give the souls back, assuming you haven't gotten Chara's memories in you somewhere. But you have the stories from Toriel, the VHS tapes from the True Lab, and of course the New Home tale of the monsters to back you up. ESPECIALLY if you have an uncanny resemblance to Chara.
5:50 Challenge Undyne to a duel, ask her if she could really say she won if she can't beat you at your own game? To make it extra enticing, make it something anime related.... A cosplay contest, but since most anime shows are hunan made, (and obviously your making it a who can look closest to the main character contest) you'd have the advantage, win and if undyne lashes out at you she'd back off when you remind her of the terms of this challenge, especially considering she's also in the presence of the former queen, one of her subordinates, and her student if her honor on the line isn't enough to convince.
The Human, Frisk, isn't specfically powerful because they have the SOUL Of Determination, but it's because they are Human. Monsters are much weaker than Humans in the lore which explains why literal children can kill furries with a plastic toy knife. Meaning us, a normal Human, most of the Underground would be a cake walk if we were smart and able to dodge such magical attacks. The true obstacle would be Flowey if you haven't dealt with him before, Mettaton because of his sneaky work arounds and ASGORE he has successfully killed multiple human children. While it can be implied previous Humans could have had control of the Save Files over Flowey, he had also stated that he had it until Frisk came along so you kind of have a problem there if he can just redo your actions. Besides if we did have more anyways, we would be able to Save and Load so it would be an instant win. Ultimately, the run would collapse because of that god damn Flower, if he choose to kill us now or use us to get to the Human Souls then promptly take ours. But lets see how if SOMEHOW Flowey just, didn't bother. Bringing Toriel along with you is a good idea, as well as Papyrus, considering the man power you would need for them to protect you from bullet patterns as some can be quite difficult at times and lessens the risk of death. Undyne would probably be hellbent on it, yes, espically if you get seperated from your posse but Toriel alone would be enough to get her to back off, so you can then befriend her. With Mettaton purposefully cuts Alphys off from you once she tries to come help you, so he would probably do the rest to your party and lock you in with him. You would pratically be forced to the fight him, but after experiencing so much battle you might be able to get used to his patterns quickly. That and Alphys gave you a god damn phone gun that is also a Jetpack, so that should help greatly. Sans would indeed do nothing, as long as you had not commited mass genocide. While even killing one monster MIGHT just give you a spank on the wrist, he'll let it slide. Finally, the 2nd most dangerous part of the run, Asgore Dreemurr. Even if with Toriel being able to stop the fight, you're still left with the Barrier. And while you say you can sacrifice any old Monster that is... not the case, sadly. Monster Souls instantly envaporate once they leave their bodies, espically when killed. The only expection to this are Boss Monsters, Asgore and Toriel being the only ones we know of. Either you do donate your soul, or you must do battle with either Asgore or Toriel. Frankly, do NOT fight Asgore. He's one of the few Monsters known to have successfully defeated Humans in combat, meaning he can be an actual threat to you if you haven't gotten any LOVE to overpower him. You could fight Toriel, but once there Asgore would probably stop you consider that is his ex wife. But if somehow, SOMEHOW you can defeat Asgore in one go, maybe with your friends helping you, you can use his SOUL, take the other human souls now that you have a Monster Soul yourself, break the barrier and let monsters free. Again, this is impossible because of Flowey and he would probably take your SOUL and use it to kill Asgore, take HIS SOUL and pass the barrier by himself where he would reap several Human souls and rule the world.
Here's the thing: Real humans likely have no souls (that have DT and come in heart shaped collectables) we're golems made of flesh powered by tiny amounts of lightning, Flowey would see you're as empty as he is and would probably kill you out of frustration, reset and toy with you out of boredom, then just ignore you.... after torturing you for information on Frisk through a few timelines... No DT but also no reason for monsters to kill you, you could probably offer your help taking out Frisk if he agrees to help you by resetting whenever you kick the bucket while convincing and explaining to Asgore that you have no soul, at least none monsterkind can make use of.
Dang. Now I want there to be an Undertale AT/AU Comic about a real life human, with no Undertale SOUL or Determination, getting sent to Undertale's world inside the Underground.
@@BoredomIncarnate16 Or maybe with Herculean luck.... (dbz, not Greek, definitely not greek herculean luck, a hydra won't be exactly possible to not die to.)
@@BoredomIncarnate16 What about a game? No save, the game corrupts it's own files when you die so you can't even replay it, and the battle system is replaced something like those shooter games where your health is body-part dependent, except your only weapon is your fists cause you didn't even have the foresight to bring a stick with you. Though murderous intent will serve a slight damage boost because monsters are weaker to living beings who genuinely wanna kill them, but you don't LV up cause, no Soul...
@@BoredomIncarnate16 Perhaps it ends with you just walking out of the barrier because you're practically the same as the oxygen and light that flows and shines through it (if it was one way for everything including air and light the place would practically be a orb of pure energy and dissolved elements due to the amount of heat and pressure it would gradually condense, and breaking the barrier would cause the *_earth_* to go supernova). (OK this is the last comment, you kinda inspired me a bit with ideas...)
If i ended up in the underground i'd just Peppino through the ruins and Live in snowdin and see how long it takes for the monsters to Realize they have Human living among them.
It’s probably very easy to get through Undertale in real life, by just running away. Through the ruins you don’t have much choice, but other than that there isn’t much stopping you. You could probably just sneak through the trees past Papyrus’ fight, and you can outrun Undyne because realistically she’s not going to make you green. You could even take one of her spears she throws at you and use it to defend yourself. Mad Dummy isn’t a problem since if you managed to distract him, you could get up to him and tear all the cotton out of his body. Once you get to Alphys and Mettaton, the quiz won’t be too hard since Alphys gives you the answers. All Mettaton’s other encounters can be avoided by walking away. Muffet isn’t really avoidable because of the webs, but if you can you could just tear the webs off of you before you get covered. Mettaton EX isn’t avoidable either. You could push him over once he’s turned around, but that might not work. Asgore would be avoidable since, like in this video, Toriel would be with you. And then you could either take a sacrifice or sacrifice yourself
no, i've seen people people try to leave the fandom only to return. oh i misunderstood the question. also correction battles are an actual thing in the undertale world and the other humans didn't have a limit to their resets they just gave up so yeah.
Genocide would be easy depending what you would be wielding before entering the mountain, but hard because you needed to ACTUALLY SEARCH for the Monster instead of dancing, they could even corner you to An surprise attack, it would be tough, since it wasn't declared if you can save, meaning, how will you heal yourself?
this video was funny ngl. (But if we were to be serious, Flowey would probably be the one to have the RESET power, as even Frisk's power isnt Frisk's, it's because of the PLAYER. At least that's the implication that the translation book has given apparently lol. The reason of how Flowey can reset is because how many DT he probably had, which is likely just MUCH more than any possible normal human)
If the options are limitless then I'd just pretend to be a monster and live underground. Some monsters have very human proportions so it'd be easy to blend in with a cloak and a mask. If you're really dedicated you could make it a goofy shy guy mask to really sell the look. Just avoid asgore and undyne and you can survive. Granted my idea of surviving is just living in the underground preferably Snowdin.
@Bongetta no, it's close to the Steamworks so I could tinker with robots in my spare time, and could probably hide there if they start to suspect me being a human
Easier way: Befriend sans and tell him to teleport you straight to judgement hall, out of laziness and boredom he thinks it would be fun, and he probably joins you. You'll hear some terrible puns but it worth it. Wait until asgore leaves and sneak though barrier at night, because asgore would probably have go to sleep.
All human souls naturally have determination, so by default we have more determination than flowey who is a soulless being injected with some determination. So death isn’t as big of an issue unless you choose to give up voluntarily. Depending if you are a kid,teen, or adult in this scenario changes how difficult your chances of survival is. Because remember, monsters were only able to get souls from children not adults because they would be eviscerated by one.
Honestly, even if I managed to get all the way to the barrier...I just wouldn't have it in me to kill Asgore, or Toriel. If I ended up in the Underground, it's my own fault. There is no point in me taking the lives of anyone there to preserve my own, when it's all my fault I ended up in that situation. I would rather make close friends, help as many monsters as possible, and live as long as possible with them. Then after I died, they could use my soul to break the barrier. I would also try and advocate for peace and diplomacy, for when the barrier is broken down. As in try and convince monsters to NOT try and kill humanity after escaping, for reasons like "Morals" and "America is OBSESSED with nukes and guns"
What I would do differently: - Grab the Toy Knife, sharpen it, then kill Toriel to stop her from keeping me in (Also, her robe wouldn't turn to dust with her.) - Steal Toriel's soul immediately - Use my stolen robe as a disguise - Kill Papyrus - Grab the different weapons and armours to assemble the Mega Armour (Except for the Clouded Glasses because I already wear glasses) - Give Undyne heat stroke in Hotland - Ward off Vulkins - Give my own darned answers to Mettaton's quiz - Rob the Emporium (And stores earlier on) - Make Mettaton discontinue his show
2:05 no. The reason Toriel gets a deja vu from the other human children is because FLOWEY loads the save file every time any of them dies, unless they reach Asgore, which in this case he allows Asgore to contain their soul until the seventh human arrives. The rest you already know… Here are two suggestions: 1) Do better research next time! 2) Stop what are you doing and play Undertale Yellow if you haven’t already played at all or finished playing and getting every possible ending (there are 4 in total)
Bro thought Undertale Yellow is Canon (and ironically you saying "do better research next time" but somehow can't even read or do your own research about if it canon or not) Not too mention during Omega Flowey Fight he can use Load and Save and overwhelm Frisk ability (reminder he can only do that *AFTER* he get 6 humans soul) which completely comfimed that you don't need Soul like Frisk to Use save and load ability but the ability of those 6 Humans Soul are likely weaker than Frisk
@@dynamitoriel9056 Tru Tru AND not to mention that depending on how long ago all the other humans fell and the time in between, Flowey might not have even been created yet so therefore, the humans could save and reset as they're the most determined entity there
Whoever in the underground has the most determination gets to save and reset and since humans hold a lot more determination than monster im probably getting that power.
My soul type is bravery so if I ain’t scared of death I won’t die and I could argue hey please don’t kill me you could get the 6 souls and let me pass with the 6 souls to break the barrier
If you consider that frisk Is fast enough to out speed bullets and strong enough to almost tank nukes yet is consistently either matched or out done in pure speed and strength surviving isn't possible.
Actually the reason why the six human are death is because they simply gave up on living and the reason is that each time player/frisk die ashore voice ask us to stay determined implying that to come back you be determined to stay alive and unlike us the 6 humain suffered form each hit and death so that isn’t surprising they decided to stay death
Flowey has the SAVE FILE, if he wanted to keep you alive he could load and save so he can use you for other purposes. But he would still take your soul if there are like 6 humans soul. Sort of a major plotpoint of undertale yellow with flowey helping us.
Just one problem, you cannot use a normal monster to get a monster soul. They just turn to dust. But boss monsters, their souls persist for a few moments before they die and you then absorb it. Theres only 2 alive boss monsters in the game, Toriel and Asgore... and I'm guessing Asgore would do it since... he literally kills himslef so Frisk could go free if you spare him after failing a pacifist
Wait the other human kids only reset a FEW times I thought that all the humans all have red soul until Alphes took their Determination only leaving there main trait
I would die probably by one of the endings cuz each last fight is a god beyond imagination besides sans cuz he just a guy thats really Strong thro his kr damage also I fell like after we get paps were good because he could just ask to make a bule bone cage around somebody then run away because as long as they don't move they won't get hurt and then just lower the blue bone cage after you run away
@@metal42 yea, so if you gonna give your soul to vulkin to escape, then vulkin will have the edge over the control and the body. Thus, just one vulkin escapes with a ghost of you.
Wait, would sacrificing Vulkin even work??? Like, isn't the whole point of Boss Monsters is that their SOULs are strong enough? Maybe... *Just* maybe... We *might* need to Back-Stab Toriel, *literally* Plus, I mean, only sans would notice, so *basically and mostly* no-one knows we did something bad, plus, If there were no whitnesses we *could* claim we killed her on accident, and her "final dying wish"(or something like that) would be for us to take her SOUL? Although... *THEN* we'd *have to* fight Asgore, and maybe we'd spend the entire fight trying to convince him to not, y'know, kill us?
But couldn’t you just beat up asgore ONLY and take his lunch money? Bonus points if you step on a bunch of ants while nobody’s looking for preparation to get LV
ok but this is very subjective, how would you know what kind of soul i have? what if its not determination but somethiing just as valid like heroism, or persistance, or idk what rule souls go by but to me is true that EVERY human is in possesion of A soul, regardless of what type, and mosnters usually fade into dust after death, not leaving any soul behind, only a few do. also if we are taking into account literal magic anything goes man
dt is not a trait, its something all humans have, honestly i don't think traits themselves have too much significance with the soul mechanics and stuff, i think its just to provide a slight bit on the fallen humans and their characters in a few words
Fun fact : The integrity soul being blue, and the fact that blue is the color of autism Some autists take integrity to extreme levels, tnat's part of their problem I know that because i am
Btw, the red soul is not determination. Determination is a thing every Human in the Undertale Verse have. "Hello? This is TORIEL. For no reason in particular... Which do you prefer? Cinnamon or butterscotch? ... wait. Do not tell me. Is it Butterscotch? [Bscotch] Is it Cinnamon? [Cinnamon] [Yes] Hee hee hee. I had a feeling. When humans fall down here, strangely... I... I often feel like I already know them. Truthfully, when I first saw you, I felt... ... like I was seeing an old friend for the first time. Strange, is it not? Well, thank you for your selection." Entry Number 5 (TRUE LAB): I've done it. Using the blueprints, I've extracted it from the human SOULs. I believe this is what gives their SOULs the strength to persist after death. The will to keep living... The resolve to change fate. Let's call this power... "Determination"
I going to be real with you I will kill a lot of monster to get a high lv I also will kill Undyn spare papyrus and torel but accidentally kill Muffet and Metton my reason for failing down would be to save the six souls
Genocide would be easy depending what you would be wielding before entering the mountain, but hard because you needed to ACTUALLY SEARCH for the Monster instead of dancing, they could even corner you to An surprise attack, it would be tough, since it wasn't declared if you can save, meaning, how will you heal yourself?
Take a shot everytime I say ‘anyways’ Jesus Christ.
How would YOU escape from the Underground?
I would be packing like clover just real bullets
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I dont wanna
Take toriel soul... Toriel can't possibly accidentally kill us 3 time right? With power of combine soul of human and monster the rest of the game shouldn't be a challenge. Tell asgore to don't show us the soul because "we can't take it". Beat asgore. Spare him, stop flowey from yeet asgore. Flowey can't take the human soul this time so beat him up. Tell asgore that you have a way to leave underground without his soul... Leave underground. Open a campaign tell other human to donate their soul to free monster... We just need one so someone must volunteer right? Take that soul and get back to underground give asgore the human soul tell him it's a donation from human. Free everyone... At a low low price of toriel... IS IT WORTH IT?
for starters id have kindness soul with (self) hate somewhat spreading on it, and right when i see flowey ill be as nice and cautious to him as possible and try to befriend him
honestly i doubt id be able to befriend flowey so id just run away when he attacks me too many times
i would now hide somewhere iin the ruins and tell my parents im in the underground (lets just say i had my phone and itd probably be cracked from the fall even if it was in my bag but whatever)
i would maybe say hi to toriel then convince her to let me out of the ruins (im sorry goat lady), and uh snowdin stuff i guess id probably explore snowdin for a bit, i dont wanna make this comment like 999999 characters long so yea
oh yea also at some point i would probably accidently drop my emotional support plush that i bring everywhere and go on a whole little alternate route to try and refind my plushie (i doubt he would survive the fall into the underground but lets just say he did)
once i get to waterfall i would probably die to undyne and following the i can come back 3 times rule id respawn somewhere and be too scared to go back in waterfall so id just stay in snowdin or maybe even with toriel if she lets me back in the ruins and find some way to be able to log into roblox (also id really miss my 3 other favorite plushies so id either make new verisons of those or find a way to escape eventually..option 2 would eventually happen in the first place anyway)
tl;dr: i wouldnt escape :D
also edit: i forgot a few things but uh just ask me abt them if u want and ill tell what i think would happen :3
"Or you can sacrifice yourself to save all the monsters but I think thats dumb."
Undertale Yellow True Pacifist in a nutshell.
omg
I'd would do it because imagine if it was you humans
Honestly the best sacrifice to get to the surface would probably be Jerry because nobody even cares about Jerry.
I care about jerry
@@wertbertmertCan't argue with honey bee
@@Demolitionidiotas a fellow honey bee, i also care about jerry.
he isnt a boss monster tho
SACRIFICE JERRY
7:28 Hey bones, this is the door lady. Anyway, I'm gonna see if they'd allow us in the kitchen so me and Papyrus can resume cooking lessons... Being so close to hotland surely this kitchen should be more fireproof right?
*_Burn down hotland!_*
7:00 A puzzle you can't get past? *_VULKIN CANNON!_*
There is no more puzzle, just a hole that's still smoking and dripping molten metal door slag.
The problem with using Vulkin or some other monster to leave the underground is that their souls are destroyed with their bodies when they die. Only the soul of a boss monster persists after death long enough for you to absorb it, so that means you need to kill Toriel or Asgore (or Gerson, maybe) if you want to leave. Regardless. I don't particularly like the idea of killing someone just to bail.
If for some reason I got stuck in the Underground, I'd just do most what this video says but then promise Asgore he can have my soul after I die of old age or something. Actually, scrap that, I would donate my soul to Toriel instead when I inevitably kick the bucket. I trust her to enforce peace between humans and monsters much more.
I would get all the monsters to leave the room and then take the 6 souls and break the barrier
@@wilfredterry1441 humans can't fuse souls with other humans
Oh k
@@Mr_questionman Can't you just attack the barrier with other souls without fusing? It is said that to break the barrier you need a force that is equivalent to 7 human souls. A monster with 7 human souls is not required.
@@Mr_questionmanbut you see, the souls arent broken yet, we could just give them back to their bodies and work together to break the barrier, or do like frisk did in the neutral against flowey by using the souls without necessarily fusing to them, which is almost the same thing
8:24 I don't think this way will work... Nobody would wanna sacrifice themselves, infact I think the only solution would be to take out your pocket flowey and make a deal...
"Hey, I wanna get out with my soul in my body and you want Chara back right?
Here's a bright idea I'm surprised you never thought of before: Gathering as many human souls as possible and just loading back to that specific era and while your still a living being, telling Chara: *_no."_*
You'd find yourself walking through a much less hostile underground where all the humans that fell passed of natural causes or are still alive... Then... we're... back where we started...
Maybe Flowey would have found a way to preserve Asgore or Toriels souls in preparation as gratitude maybe... who knows...
7:55 Better yet, find a camera and explain that you did not concent to this tv program, get MTT cancelled and learn a lesson on consent and contracts.
7:10 You don't have to eat the doughnut, just show it to her, heck offer it saying: "Hey I bought this doughnut, wanna split it before you bake this paying customer into a horrifying meat pie or whatever?" Or perhaps something less sarcastic...
I would describe it as a blind "playthrough" of Undertale, how a human would realistically go through this without knowing future events from playing the game beforehand, but it's difficult to fit everything into a RUclips Comment instead of a video format. I could try to summarize it.
My thought process on the true pacifist ending would be to do pretty much everything as you would in Neutral, (Probably killing Flowey after he attempts to kill you and drops the "You know what's going on here..." line, which would either mean A) You are more determined like Frisk, meaning that the timeline continues, or B) The timeline ends as Flowey loads a save, like presumably the other 6 humans) If a save is loaded... good luck mate, but lets assume you are more determined.
So, do everything the same, eventually get to the True Lab assuming you haven't harmed another monster since Toriel's existence / "training" shows that you can talk / run away from any situation. Eventually, you'd learn about Flowey's origins and could probably make an assumption that they can absorb any soul, after all, why would he have tried to kill you before? It's a gamble, but there aren't many alternatives.
So, load a save (If you are more determined enough to continue the timeline but can't time travel, maybe you can inject yourself with some liquid DT while in the True Lab to make a single load) to the point before you killed Flowey, then *maybe* you can wait for Toriel to bail you out this time since you know she would arrive earlier, yada yada, you remind them of events that haven't happened yet due to their deja vu, and hopefully you end up back at The Barrier with one major difference, Flowey being alive.
It was hypothesized that it would take the strength of nearly every monster's soul to equal one human soul, and hopefully you are correct in that Flowey can absorb a live monster's soul (With the help of the 6 human souls maybe). Blammo, you've got all 7 in a single person, now you just need to do the monumental task of convincing Asriel to break the barrier and give the souls back, assuming you haven't gotten Chara's memories in you somewhere. But you have the stories from Toriel, the VHS tapes from the True Lab, and of course the New Home tale of the monsters to back you up. ESPECIALLY if you have an uncanny resemblance to Chara.
5:50 Challenge Undyne to a duel, ask her if she could really say she won if she can't beat you at your own game? To make it extra enticing, make it something anime related.... A cosplay contest, but since most anime shows are hunan made, (and obviously your making it a who can look closest to the main character contest) you'd have the advantage, win and if undyne lashes out at you she'd back off when you remind her of the terms of this challenge, especially considering she's also in the presence of the former queen, one of her subordinates, and her student if her honor on the line isn't enough to convince.
“Oh undyne suplexing bolders now”
“I better keep my ass in the ruins”
“Or else I’m FINISHED‼️”
6:23 OMG THAT PERSONA 5 REFERENCE COUGHT ME OFF GAURD
The Human, Frisk, isn't specfically powerful because they have the SOUL Of Determination, but it's because they are Human. Monsters are much weaker than Humans in the lore which explains why literal children can kill furries with a plastic toy knife. Meaning us, a normal Human, most of the Underground would be a cake walk if we were smart and able to dodge such magical attacks. The true obstacle would be Flowey if you haven't dealt with him before, Mettaton because of his sneaky work arounds and ASGORE he has successfully killed multiple human children.
While it can be implied previous Humans could have had control of the Save Files over Flowey, he had also stated that he had it until Frisk came along so you kind of have a problem there if he can just redo your actions. Besides if we did have more anyways, we would be able to Save and Load so it would be an instant win. Ultimately, the run would collapse because of that god damn Flower, if he choose to kill us now or use us to get to the Human Souls then promptly take ours. But lets see how if SOMEHOW Flowey just, didn't bother.
Bringing Toriel along with you is a good idea, as well as Papyrus, considering the man power you would need for them to protect you from bullet patterns as some can be quite difficult at times and lessens the risk of death. Undyne would probably be hellbent on it, yes, espically if you get seperated from your posse but Toriel alone would be enough to get her to back off, so you can then befriend her.
With Mettaton purposefully cuts Alphys off from you once she tries to come help you, so he would probably do the rest to your party and lock you in with him. You would pratically be forced to the fight him, but after experiencing so much battle you might be able to get used to his patterns quickly. That and Alphys gave you a god damn phone gun that is also a Jetpack, so that should help greatly.
Sans would indeed do nothing, as long as you had not commited mass genocide. While even killing one monster MIGHT just give you a spank on the wrist, he'll let it slide.
Finally, the 2nd most dangerous part of the run, Asgore Dreemurr. Even if with Toriel being able to stop the fight, you're still left with the Barrier. And while you say you can sacrifice any old Monster that is... not the case, sadly. Monster Souls instantly envaporate once they leave their bodies, espically when killed. The only expection to this are Boss Monsters, Asgore and Toriel being the only ones we know of. Either you do donate your soul, or you must do battle with either Asgore or Toriel. Frankly, do NOT fight Asgore. He's one of the few Monsters known to have successfully defeated Humans in combat, meaning he can be an actual threat to you if you haven't gotten any LOVE to overpower him. You could fight Toriel, but once there Asgore would probably stop you consider that is his ex wife. But if somehow, SOMEHOW you can defeat Asgore in one go, maybe with your friends helping you, you can use his SOUL, take the other human souls now that you have a Monster Soul yourself, break the barrier and let monsters free.
Again, this is impossible because of Flowey and he would probably take your SOUL and use it to kill Asgore, take HIS SOUL and pass the barrier by himself where he would reap several Human souls and rule the world.
Seeing undertale in a new light actually seems good
Here's the thing: Real humans likely have no souls (that have DT and come in heart shaped collectables) we're golems made of flesh powered by tiny amounts of lightning, Flowey would see you're as empty as he is and would probably kill you out of frustration, reset and toy with you out of boredom, then just ignore you.... after torturing you for information on Frisk through a few timelines...
No DT but also no reason for monsters to kill you, you could probably offer your help taking out Frisk if he agrees to help you by resetting whenever you kick the bucket while convincing and explaining to Asgore that you have no soul, at least none monsterkind can make use of.
Dang. Now I want there to be an Undertale AT/AU Comic about a real life human, with no Undertale SOUL or Determination, getting sent to Undertale's world inside the Underground.
@@BoredomIncarnate16 Or maybe with Herculean luck....
(dbz, not Greek, definitely not greek herculean luck, a hydra won't be exactly possible to not die to.)
@@BoredomIncarnate16 What about a game? No save, the game corrupts it's own files when you die so you can't even replay it, and the battle system is replaced something like those shooter games where your health is body-part dependent, except your only weapon is your fists cause you didn't even have the foresight to bring a stick with you.
Though murderous intent will serve a slight damage boost because monsters are weaker to living beings who genuinely wanna kill them, but you don't LV up cause, no Soul...
@@BoredomIncarnate16 Perhaps it ends with you just walking out of the barrier because you're practically the same as the oxygen and light that flows and shines through it (if it was one way for everything including air and light the place would practically be a orb of pure energy and dissolved elements due to the amount of heat and pressure it would gradually condense, and breaking the barrier would cause the *_earth_* to go supernova).
(OK this is the last comment, you kinda inspired me a bit with ideas...)
@@Solesteam You're welcome then!
If i ended up in the underground i'd just Peppino through the ruins and Live in snowdin and see how long it takes for the monsters to Realize they have Human living among them.
You can only Exorb a boss monster soul Normal monster souls disappear immediately upon death
The strat of stuffing flowey in your pocket is so hilarious.
It’s probably very easy to get through Undertale in real life, by just running away. Through the ruins you don’t have much choice, but other than that there isn’t much stopping you. You could probably just sneak through the trees past Papyrus’ fight, and you can outrun Undyne because realistically she’s not going to make you green. You could even take one of her spears she throws at you and use it to defend yourself. Mad Dummy isn’t a problem since if you managed to distract him, you could get up to him and tear all the cotton out of his body. Once you get to Alphys and Mettaton, the quiz won’t be too hard since Alphys gives you the answers. All Mettaton’s other encounters can be avoided by walking away. Muffet isn’t really avoidable because of the webs, but if you can you could just tear the webs off of you before you get covered. Mettaton EX isn’t avoidable either. You could push him over once he’s turned around, but that might not work. Asgore would be avoidable since, like in this video, Toriel would be with you. And then you could either take a sacrifice or sacrifice yourself
"It was a flower that talked I don't know what more you wanted from me Goat person with eyelashes " me after plucking Flowey
Undertale but you Get(almost) everyone to join your team
no, i've seen people people try to leave the fandom only to return. oh i misunderstood the question. also correction battles are an actual thing in the undertale world and the other humans didn't have a limit to their resets they just gave up so yeah.
I am now inspired to make Undertale: Gray. The grey soul ability is to just stutter and take 1 damage when you press z during an enemy attack.
Genocide would be easy depending what you would be wielding before entering the mountain, but hard because you needed to ACTUALLY SEARCH for the Monster instead of dancing, they could even corner you to An surprise attack, it would be tough, since it wasn't declared if you can save, meaning, how will you heal yourself?
7:56 long lost queen check one of the most idolized people in the underground check
never seen an undertale itinerary tour guide before, thanks for the help! ill make it out of the underground now
this video was funny ngl.
(But if we were to be serious, Flowey would probably be the one to have the RESET power, as even Frisk's power isnt Frisk's, it's because of the PLAYER. At least that's the implication that the translation book has given apparently lol. The reason of how Flowey can reset is because how many DT he probably had, which is likely just MUCH more than any possible normal human)
Hé was likley going to have the reset power well… forever if we where not there
If the options are limitless then I'd just pretend to be a monster and live underground. Some monsters have very human proportions so it'd be easy to blend in with a cloak and a mask. If you're really dedicated you could make it a goofy shy guy mask to really sell the look. Just avoid asgore and undyne and you can survive. Granted my idea of surviving is just living in the underground preferably Snowdin.
Or if the underground expansions from the fangames are included I'd say The Dunes would be the safest
@@clicktuck rizzin up Mooch on sight.
@Bongetta no, it's close to the Steamworks so I could tinker with robots in my spare time, and could probably hide there if they start to suspect me being a human
@@clicktuck And then the robots will attack you on sight, like I said. Stay in the wild east. for personal reasons I shall not disclose here.
@@Bongetta you are doing what now
Honestly once I learned I need a monster soul as well I’d just live with them
Easier way: Befriend sans and tell him to teleport you straight to judgement hall, out of laziness and boredom he thinks it would be fun, and he probably joins you. You'll hear some terrible puns but it worth it. Wait until asgore leaves and sneak though barrier at night, because asgore would probably have go to sleep.
I'd use the six human souls and all of the monsters to punch the barrier and because of true pacifist, that should win
All human souls naturally have determination, so by default we have more determination than flowey who is a soulless being injected with some determination. So death isn’t as big of an issue unless you choose to give up voluntarily. Depending if you are a kid,teen, or adult in this scenario changes how difficult your chances of survival is. Because remember, monsters were only able to get souls from children not adults because they would be eviscerated by one.
Honestly, even if I managed to get all the way to the barrier...I just wouldn't have it in me to kill Asgore, or Toriel. If I ended up in the Underground, it's my own fault. There is no point in me taking the lives of anyone there to preserve my own, when it's all my fault I ended up in that situation.
I would rather make close friends, help as many monsters as possible, and live as long as possible with them. Then after I died, they could use my soul to break the barrier.
I would also try and advocate for peace and diplomacy, for when the barrier is broken down. As in try and convince monsters to NOT try and kill humanity after escaping, for reasons like "Morals" and "America is OBSESSED with nukes and guns"
What I would do differently:
- Grab the Toy Knife, sharpen it, then kill Toriel to stop her from keeping me in (Also, her robe wouldn't turn to dust with her.)
- Steal Toriel's soul immediately
- Use my stolen robe as a disguise
- Kill Papyrus
- Grab the different weapons and armours to assemble the Mega Armour (Except for the Clouded Glasses because I already wear glasses)
- Give Undyne heat stroke in Hotland
- Ward off Vulkins
- Give my own darned answers to Mettaton's quiz
- Rob the Emporium (And stores earlier on)
- Make Mettaton discontinue his show
Damn, evil much?
Im a trained mtf operative from mtf unit zeta-9 who specializes in cqc unstable spacetime and underground areas so it would be easier for me
Every one: soul of hope or happyness
Me: soul of fkn disapointment😭
2:05 no. The reason Toriel gets a deja vu from the other human children is because FLOWEY loads the save file every time any of them dies, unless they reach Asgore, which in this case he allows Asgore to contain their soul until the seventh human arrives. The rest you already know…
Here are two suggestions:
1) Do better research next time!
2) Stop what are you doing and play Undertale Yellow if you haven’t already played at all or finished playing and getting every possible ending (there are 4 in total)
Yellow isn't canon, tragically (I would give my left nut if Toby did canonize it though)
Bro thought Undertale Yellow is Canon (and ironically you saying "do better research next time" but somehow can't even read or do your own research about if it canon or not) Not too mention during Omega Flowey Fight he can use Load and Save and overwhelm Frisk ability (reminder he can only do that *AFTER* he get 6 humans soul) which completely comfimed that you don't need Soul like Frisk to Use save and load ability but the ability of those 6 Humans Soul are likely weaker than Frisk
@@dynamitoriel9056 Tru Tru AND not to mention that depending on how long ago all the other humans fell and the time in between, Flowey might not have even been created yet so therefore, the humans could save and reset as they're the most determined entity there
Whoever in the underground has the most determination gets to save and reset and since humans hold a lot more determination than monster im probably getting that power.
Beat genocide route in under 2 hours
In the intro alone, you have earned my subscription
My soul type is bravery so if I ain’t scared of death I won’t die and I could argue hey please don’t kill me you could get the 6 souls and let me pass with the 6 souls to break the barrier
If you consider that frisk Is fast enough to out speed bullets and strong enough to almost tank nukes yet is consistently either matched or out done in pure speed and strength surviving isn't possible.
Actually the reason why the six human are death is because they simply gave up on living and the reason is that each time player/frisk die ashore voice ask us to stay determined implying that to come back you be determined to stay alive and unlike us the 6 humain suffered form each hit and death so that isn’t surprising they decided to stay death
Flowey has the SAVE FILE, if he wanted to keep you alive he could load and save so he can use you for other purposes. But he would still take your soul if there are like 6 humans soul. Sort of a major plotpoint of undertale yellow with flowey helping us.
This pains me to say, but tragically I don't think Yellow is canon (please Toby canonize it.)
@@lordprotector4266 Yes, but I feel like Flowey would pull shit like that if there was a human.
Just one problem, you cannot use a normal monster to get a monster soul. They just turn to dust. But boss monsters, their souls persist for a few moments before they die and you then absorb it. Theres only 2 alive boss monsters in the game, Toriel and Asgore... and I'm guessing Asgore would do it since... he literally kills himslef so Frisk could go free if you spare him after failing a pacifist
Can you escape Undertale? Yes. Just stop watching Undertale videos and it'll eventually disappear from your home page.
Damn bro is a strategist
I’d probably make a really tall ladder and escape the way I came in
I would probably have justice
Wait the other human kids only reset a FEW times I thought that all the humans all have red soul until Alphes took their Determination only leaving there main trait
I would die probably by one of the endings cuz each last fight is a god beyond imagination besides sans cuz he just a guy thats really Strong thro his kr damage also I fell like after we get paps were good because he could just ask to make a bule bone cage around somebody then run away because as long as they don't move they won't get hurt and then just lower the blue bone cage after you run away
out of the 15 times i beat undertale all endings included i have beat it 3 times without dying
Sans could just teleport me to the barrier
Also I'd do true pasifist
its undynes armor that makes her pass out
I have the soul of SOULCIAL ANXIETY!! *BA DUM TSS*
Doesn't it take absorbed human soul by a monster / vice versa but only with boss monster souls to leave underground or some flowery shenanigans?
Any monster can absorb a human soul, that's why the humans attacked the monsters.
@@metal42 yea, so if you gonna give your soul to vulkin to escape, then vulkin will have the edge over the control and the body. Thus, just one vulkin escapes with a ghost of you.
my soul is patince
Yea I want those 2 other routes
How am I gonna figure my soul type
Wait, would sacrificing Vulkin even work???
Like, isn't the whole point of Boss Monsters is that their SOULs are strong enough?
Maybe...
*Just* maybe...
We *might* need to Back-Stab Toriel, *literally*
Plus, I mean, only sans would notice, so *basically and mostly* no-one knows we did something bad, plus, If there were no whitnesses we *could* claim we killed her on accident, and her "final dying wish"(or something like that) would be for us to take her SOUL?
Although...
*THEN* we'd *have to* fight Asgore, and maybe we'd spend the entire fight trying to convince him to not, y'know, kill us?
But couldn’t you just beat up asgore ONLY and take his lunch money? Bonus points if you step on a bunch of ants while nobody’s looking for preparation to get LV
@@concernedlego897 gret idas as alway.
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What I would do is recruit a bunch of frogits ans nasptablook
ok but this is very subjective, how would you know what kind of soul i have? what if its not determination but somethiing just as valid like heroism, or persistance, or idk what rule souls go by but to me is true that EVERY human is in possesion of A soul, regardless of what type, and mosnters usually fade into dust after death, not leaving any soul behind, only a few do.
also if we are taking into account literal magic anything goes man
dt is not a trait, its something all humans have, honestly i don't think traits themselves have too much significance with the soul mechanics and stuff, i think its just to provide a slight bit on the fallen humans and their characters in a few words
i love your video this one was very funny
I would get the soul of determination or preserverence
Fun fact :
The integrity soul being blue, and the fact that blue is the color of autism
Some autists take integrity to extreme levels, tnat's part of their problem
I know that because i am
how to survive undertale yellow tutorial when?
You need to learn how to flirt with papayrush
Bro dont kill flowey or no true pacifist ending. Or make someone absorb the six souls then make them create a human soul then leave.
what frisk should've done
Btw, the red soul is not determination. Determination is a thing every Human in the Undertale Verse have.
"Hello? This is TORIEL.
For no reason in particular... Which do you prefer?
Cinnamon or butterscotch?
... wait. Do not tell me.
Is it Butterscotch? [Bscotch]
Is it Cinnamon? [Cinnamon]
[Yes]
Hee hee hee. I had a feeling.
When humans fall down here, strangely... I...
I often feel like I already know them.
Truthfully, when I first saw you, I felt...
... like I was seeing an old friend for the first time.
Strange, is it not?
Well, thank you for your selection."
Entry Number 5 (TRUE LAB):
I've done it.
Using the blueprints, I've extracted it from the human SOULs.
I believe this is what gives their SOULs the strength to persist after death.
The will to keep living... The resolve to change fate.
Let's call this power...
"Determination"
Nah, i'd win
the kids
Totally watched all of it
Sorry but you have to sacrifice a boss monster normal monster’s souls don’t last too long after death
I going to be real with you I will kill a lot of monster to get a high lv I also will kill Undyn spare papyrus and torel but accidentally kill Muffet and Metton my reason for failing down would be to save the six souls
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Honestly to me undertale is kinda mid so a genocide routes seems like the one I'd do.
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Genocide would be easy depending what you would be wielding before entering the mountain, but hard because you needed to ACTUALLY SEARCH for the Monster instead of dancing, they could even corner you to An surprise attack, it would be tough, since it wasn't declared if you can save, meaning, how will you heal yourself?