Here's Why SUVs are the Worst Vehicle to Buy (Get This Instead)
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I'll keep my midsize S.U.V. I need it for the 5 months of winter here. I can see over the snowbanks and turn on the 4wd to get through snow when I need to.
But you can keep the full size ones.
Give me a V8 or V6 no turbitos and we got a deal
@scottykilmer Please review the new Hyundai Elantra 2.0L gas 2021-2024. They have ivt transmission and atkinson engine.
They changed things after issues.🎉
@scottykilmer Please review the new Hyundai Elantra 2.0L gas 2021-2024. They have ivt transmission and atkinson engine.
They changed things after issues.🎉
The auto industry needs to build affordable cars again.
I agree, but I don't see it happening any time soon.
These rolling computers are ridiculous.
They used to PAY auto workers enough to buy one! Not ship the job off, overseas!!!
They’d do well to make quality products, fixable products. People seem to be thinking that way more and more. I know I do
Never going to happen
I just bought a Honda Odyssey and I absolutely love it. The seats fold into the floor and leaves a ton of space. There's storage compartments everywhere, even under the seats. Max cargo space. And it's long enough to carry my kayak without it hanging off. Minivans are far superior to an suv.
Try taking it off-road , then you will see vans can't do it without extensive modificatiins
@enigmainwater2493 not sure about this statement. Most people don't go off road. The ones that do get proper vehicles for the purpose. Certainly would not try to take a sports car off road either.
SUV , Sport Utility Vehicle
Vans are for hauling cargo and people , really does not matter how many people go off road , but many families do when camping ,
@@enigmainwater2493 True, but be honest. 99% of people aren't going off road. When they do it's just a one time thing. They ain't spending their lives off road. If you live in the countryside snd go hunting or mountain biking a lot then I understand. But most people are using them just for daily commute.
@@austinhernandez2716Ya today most people buy SUVs as just a bigger car with more storage space and headroom without taking up a much bigger footprint. Most suvs are actually a pretty small wheelbase. Only those dedicated off road designed suvs have the bigger wheelbases (ex Toyota FJ, Landcruiser, Forerunner, Dodge Jeep, all the Suzuki and Mitsubishi suvs).
Toyota is better than the Honda for me
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@@breckfreeridebypass for remote start under 100$ and and hr of ur time
Honda has been falling off for years. Still make good cars but Toyota isn't really competing with them anymore in my opinion. Not like they used to anyway.
honda is nothing to Toyota
Agree. For me Toyota is more rugged and Honda is Sporty. I think for the price Toyota is more comfortable and gas friendly. Honda is fun to drive but Toyota definitely more comfortable
I understand for people who have kids and do a lot of outdoor activities get an SUV but me,30 year old,no kids,I just got a civic,get to work and back,and drive around in.
SUVs aren't for families anymore; they are for the rich. Families get vans or multiple cheap vehicles.
Edit: they are also incredibly unsafe. I mean, just the number of rollovers is insane.
they should get a minivan or wagon.they don’t need an SUV
The question is, who goes off road?? Note, a gravel road is still a road and doesn't require 4x4 (unless you have severe washouts and/or very steep grades). Gravel roads at a state park campground are typically in decent condition.
Yeaaaa I don’t think you’re the target market for SUVs….🙄
People with cabins and off the grid fishing and hunting land.
@@hansschotterradler3772
Nobody drives off-road. Who would at 70 grand?
I used to off-road my 2001 Corolla all the time. Never broke or got stuck once. Actually a hose came unhooked once when we were drifting in a random overgrown field. Lol
To drive off-road, get a bulldozer. 🚜
Pavement princesses
Only if you're into $5000 repair bills for ripping the hell out of your suspension.
Those with enough money to go to a car wash every day, and don’t care if something gets slightly damaged, as can afford to fix it, but there reasons why those on RUclips who do small car towing and recovery off road, use some kind of Jeep and or SUV which over 10 years old, and I think there one of them which using some kind of late 90’s Jeep
At first I was surprised to hear Scotty talk down about a Toyota, but as soon as he mentioned the turbocharged engine, subscription based amenity and price. I understood completely. Thank you as always Scotty!
A Virginia Toyota dealer has listed a 2024 Land Cruiser for a staggering $107,169 which is a markup of over $30,000
wow 😮
Same for Tahoes, $100K and up!
That's insane. They can keep em lol. 🤣
it will still be sitting on their lot come 2026
That's a real stealership!
Want a Sequoia - but the previous gen, with the lovely 5.7 V8.
They're awesome. Got a 15. Had an 06. Super reliable
@@XXtrbxx1990XX I have an 08 Tundra. Love it, but it is used mostly for work and overlanding. Would love a Sequoia for my daily. Enjoy your 15; awesome trucks.
Bought a 2013 Platinum Sequioa low miles in 2021 for $22,000 after driving minivans for 20 yrs only issue is the lack of carrying capacity and pick-up speed, great on long trips though, suvs can only carry about 40% of what my 2007 Entourage could, miss that minivan.
Very informative. Two observations:
1. The Sequoia is on its 3rd generation, not the 2nd.
2. The Sienna LE- DOES come with the 8 passenger option. I just looked it up on the Toyota website.
Also there is many more trims in the Sienna not just 3
LE, XLE, XSE, Limited, Woodland Edition, and Platinum!
It sounds like he's reading a script in these slick segments.
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Any vehicle that puts you in massive debt is the worst vehicle. Avoid those.
When Subaru intro'd the Forester in the 1990's, it was intended as a rational solution to the SUV question, with slightly higher vehicle height, captain's chairs, skid plating and arguably the best car-based 4-wheel drive on the planet. This "SUV-light" concept appealed to their primary Whole-Foods and granola market, but are great cars anyway. Ours is a 1999 S Turbo in signature green, basically a WRX with a tailgate.
Lotta ways to describe a poj lol nobody cares about your ancient slow forester
Editing, transitions, voiceover and the information all in one video, this is niceeee!
Get a pickup truck & bed cover, whether its a tonneau or shell. A full size suv is nothing more than a overgrown minivan with worse fuel consumption.
Shells start at 3k and most beds are useless 5 footers now...
Or, better yet, a cargo van. Strong engine, maximum cargo space. What's the use of a bed cover? If you're carrying stuff that little, then why do you need a strong truck in the first place? Unless you're towing. But a trailer isn't always practical. If you want the most efficency, a cargo van is the best option.
@@austinhernandez2716 snow and not shoveling the bed is nice on hoth! 4wd and clearance is a must if you want to survive
@@austinhernandez2716 i would if they'd come in 4wd. So dumb that they don't. For contractors that need more room it should be a no-brainer of why it's needed.
Wrong Tahoe is a truck with a permanent shell , TRUE 4 wheel drive
The Toyota Sequoia entered its third generation with the 2022 m/y. Not the second generation (2007)
In 2007, we bought a new Honda Pilot 4WD base model for around $24,000. It is our vehicle for out-of-town trips as well as pulling my utility trailer full of firewood and everything else. Excellent in the snow. Comfortable. We can fill 2 grocery carts at Costco and still have room to spare. Repairs: Every 7 years, we replace the timing belt. That's about all I've done to it. I'll have to do the big tune-up at 100,00 miles but that's 35,000 miles away and I live in a small town. I fill the gas tank once a month unless we go to Costco. The V6 engine is priceless. It's my last car. I'll never get anything else unless someone smashes it. It blows my mind the market value is only a few thousand. It's as good as the day I bought it with a few hundred thousand miles left on it. ❤
OOPS! It's a 2007, not a 2017! Sorry.
A few thousand???? I'm looking for one and they're still going for $20,000+
Not a math whiz. #'s just don't jive though.
Used prices are obcene
@@fromthebackofmymind What numbers? Do I need to post photos or what?
@@fromthebackofmymind I screwed up. It's a 2007, not a 2017. Thanks for the whack on the noggin.
The worst vehicle to buy is anything electric.
Or SUV for gas mileage over towing capacity
Not if you drive them indoors primarily
By a long shot.
@@andyblank4157broke.
'Battery operated'. Which is a storage of energy. They aren't 'electric'. Which would require a constant supply.
Toyota Land Cruiser is back this year, but I would prefer 4Runner.
u crazy, given you can afford both
These in depth videos provide a wealth of information to buyers that they would never ne able to find on their own. Great channel!
Although I agree the value prospect/resale is overall poor in the full size SUV range, its worth mentioning the better fuel economy of the Yukon/Tahoe/Suburban 3.0L diesel Duramax, great torque! Also don't sleep on the Toyota Grand Highlander (up to 36 mpg hybrid), Honda Pilot, redesigned Chevy Traverse/GMC Acadia, all with notable interior cargo space. Great and well laid out video Scotty!
We had a sienna that died on us and my wife wanted a Sequoia so that’s what we got. It’s nice but I prefer the sienna. You can fit more gear in it. It’s strong enough to pull our little trailer and gets better gas mileage. She always wanted a Sequoia though 🤷🏻♂️I got an 05 Scion XB and that’s my baby
2003 Escalade 6 liter vortex max AWD, bought for $9600 with 95,000 miles. Now at 132,000 miles six years later. No transmission or engine work. As quiet and comfortable as a new one. 13 to 18 mpg. Old cars are the way my friends.
If you want one of these large domestic SUV, used is a much better deal as they depreciate like rocks.
As long as you can find parts, yes.
Parts for Escalade Tahoe and Yukon are plentiful
basically the same as Siverado , Sierra,
Thank you for the video. Blessings to you.
It's annoying that here in the states we can't get/buy a "cargo" version of the Sienna and Odyssey.
Yep! Toyota needs to make cargo van here in the US, they would save the environment so much as fleet vehicles do over twice the amount of driving as normal drivers
Pacifica’s have stow and go 🤷♂️
@@blipblop92 if you are driving in a city - somewhere with roads just drive van , better at every possible thing than a truck or suv
Thank you very much scotty for mentioning the safety! The suv costs are insane, but I leaned away from a minivan due to the safety ratings, and the rear seat safety.
I like these suvs (aside from ridiculous price) but I like this style format for scotty's videos better!
The problem with Sienna is that dealer surcharge can be outrageous, making it more expensive than it appears.
Very nicely put together infographics. Great info!
Who does the editing? Great work!
You are correct minivans are cheaper but they are none to be found in my area, atlanta 😂
Same in my area in Washington state.
1) I own the Durango because I tow and have 5 kids. I need the seating and 7200 tow capacity. But you can't bring home a sheet of drywall in it.
2) for vans, I also own a caravan. It seats 7, can tow 3600lbs, and when I need drywall, the stow and go is priceless.
The Honda, our friends have one, and it has its plusses, but it's far inferior to the caravan in many aspects. They keep 1 seat out because they have 5 kids and find it easier for getting the crew in and out. But there is no stow and go, so that seat sits unused in storage. If they pick up an extra passenger, they have to put that seat back in the van.
Dang, who can afford these prices??? Not me
Ah, Stellantis. Nice to have the worst of the worst all in one place, a single black hole of suck.
But wait there's more... They raised prices 50% over the last 3 years!
I had two Chrysler products back to back in the 1980's. I've been a Honda Man ever since. Never again, no way, no how.
@@wildbikerbill6530 glad you saw the light
And a lot of people rent and buy them as if. I used to make fun of ut men. When you see the amount of people its shameful and sad. How can people be so ignorant and careless about the money the spend.
14:00 Sienna has 6 trims (not 3). LE, XLE, XSE, Woodland, limited and platinum. It’s typically 5-10K above any equivalent odyssey trim
Would love to hear your opinion on the 5th generation $ Runner vs. the new 6th generation 2025 4Runner.
Thank you kindly.
Love these vids
I want to give my 2022 Nissan Armada a shout out. No major problems at 40k miles and it gets over 400 miles range with the V8.
Good to know i need to watch out for the sequia when im driving the celica
I have a 2019 sienna se awd v6 . And I love it.
Honda and Toyota Vans can fit 4 x 8s in between the rear wheels......with the door closed after you fold down the 2nd and 3rd rows. I love both vans. An older Sienna AWD lifted 3 inches can go just about anywhere and used as a weekend RV. You can also place a 327w solar panel on top for some off-gridding
Have a brand new 2022 Wagoneer, the perfect vehicle for serious cross country traveling. Can actually use as a near home away from home with a mattress, an after market installed 40 in television, mini stove. The Toyota is good, but, too much ‘flimsy’ plastics, and the interior feels ‘cheaply’ made. The Sienna can’t go near off-road, and ‘psychologically’ driving a Sienna for long periods of time and not have any passengers and being single and alone may not be practical🤷🏼
Thank you for a great video.
Miss the older SUVs. Solid cargo and passenger space. Decent towing, and solid off-road. They fit exactly want I needed; a vehicle that was pretty good at doing a wide variety of things. Pricing wasn't terrible, though MPG was just as bad as they are now.
Hi Scotty, the Sienna has 5 trims that will get you close to $60K. You didn’t mention the Limited and the Platinum trims.
If your car has manual transmission, you must take care of the engine oil regularly so, the engine will last like the manual transmission, too. Even for a family mini van.
I've always thought the SUV is a terrible idea for everyday road cars. The body is aerodynamically inefficient, using more gasoline (or kilowatts). It's inconvenient having to step up into the car, and gets more so as you get older. Same goes for loading luggage. It's less stable on cornering and braking. In my opinion the old fashioned station wagon or estate car is a far more intelligent and efficient design.
Yea SUV and crossovers are really bad about rolling over. I see it pretty frequently down here in Florida. Minivans are much more stable.
I can get on well enough with something like a Crosstrek...AWD, decent ground clearance, tows up to 3500lb, seats 5, roof-rails, can mount a winch, easily exceeds 30MPG hwy, decently reliable, decently affordable, easy to work on, easy to get parts for, rides decently, easy to drive/park, etc.
Scotty, I'd rather have the 1994-95 Tahoe. Those TBI engines weren't fire breathing motors, but you can put a ton of miles on them, very reliable. Lots of old school Chevy trucks rolling around here in Delaware.
Yes but the transmission sucked a big one!
Traumatic Brain Injury engines?
@@breckfreeride easy fix , easy to make very strong , don't do burnouts and they last a long time
When i was a kid i use to lay in the back window of are car
And when I was a kid we'd ride in the back of pickup trucks.
When I was a kid we were dragged on the road by a rope and had to learn to ski on the road
You and Toyota might of convinced me to get a Sienna instead of a Corolla Hatchback GR. 36 city and 36 highway in a big reliable van for that price is a really great deal. Especially if you wanna start your own business in the future. Do you have to charge hybrids though? Doesn't charging also cost money so that would basically decrease fuel economy when factored in?
The Tahoe is constantly on lists of the longest lasting, highest mile vehicles
Yep! But then you'd be running at 15mpg for the next 20 years which is over twice something like a sienna
@@blipblop92 20mpg
20mpg and better to buy gas than to make constant repairs...
My 2005 is only 135,000 miles. Only a few very mild repairs. I find the mpg really impressive for the v8. I think the engine is built well. I think this video is especially for the new models that have even more plastic parts. We took the very back seats out, the others go down, I've used it like a pick up truck bed a few times.
Thanks for doing a vid in this format. I really enjoy them 👍
Chrysler introduced the minivan 40 years ago. Lee Iaccoca thought the minivan would replaced the station wagon, but unfortunately, crossover/SUVs have gotten more popular. Chrysler doesn't have the quality and reliability of Toyota and Honda
I'll keep my 2021 Land Cruiser Heritage Edition, thank you. And yes, I do take it off road all the time. I'm not talking about graded fire roads either. I do the serious stuff. That is what it is built for. As for driving across the country, it is the best vehicle I have driven. It beats out the Porsches and BMWs I have driven. There are those of us who actually use our SUVs as intended. Of the 45,000 miles I have on my Land Cruiser, about 10,000 are off road. That's right, off road.
Drove a newer Tahoe, rented it on a vacay, and it was super nice, plush ride, and quiet. But no way im paying the astronomical price for something nowhere near as economical as my avalon
I just bought an Older Toyota Venza. AWD and very roomy. I think the Venza is almost perfect for economy comfort and practicality. I don’t know much about the new ones but they are an option over a 4Runner
Good review
My 2019 Cherokee is having so many problems right now. One could be a costly transmission fix. Think I'll just get rid of it.
Which of the 2 are easier to do maintenance on?
My 2013 expedition xlt 4x4 gets 13mpg city. And that's with the cam lock out on the v8 5.4
Scotty, what can you share with us about the Saburu Soltera's EV?
Unfortunately still need full-size suv because it has higher clearance above the ground , and we get more often flooding issues in Louisiana so needs higher vehicle , and mini vans might not work in this situation
Texas too 💯
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Honda can't get the transmission right with the Odyssey. I wanted to buy one. I think they're perfect otherwise. But people have reported transmission failure at freeway speeds.
The Sienna is too slow for me. They should offer it with the hybrid max.
I do like the 4Runner TRD Pro
For these prices, I'd have to live in the suv.
Good video, but plz work on your facts; the tahoe needs premium fuel only with the 6.2 engine, which very few tahoes have. The 5.3 calls for regular gas.
I bought Dodge for the stow and go seating
I had a Mazda CX-5 as a rental one time. I didn't like it. I mean it was a nice vehicle for what it was, but it was just way to big of a vehicle. I was worried about hitting things. I'm sure over time I could have got used to it, but I didn't want to be liable for damaging a rental (or someone else's vehicle). Just give me a good cheap reliable sedan. I'm golden.
If you think cx5 is big you are in for a treat lol.
One of the smallest cars on the road 😂
WELL... in comparison to my daily, which was a Miata, it WAS big. 😆
Nothing lives up to the price tag these days, cars are at least 20%-30% overpriced compared to general COLC inflation (like groceries and college tuition). If inflation alone were controlling car prices, for example, a new 2024 Ford Explorer Platinum should run about $45K to $50K MSRP, tops (a well-equipped 1994 Eddie Bauer was about $24K). But then, my 1989 Ford Ranger XLT well-equipped was $8800 new from the showroom floor .... of course, general inflation itself today is inexcusable but that's another topic ...
Doesn't the Pacifica have stow n go seating?
Would take a late '60s to early '70s Ford or GM or Mopar wagon in good condition over one of these.
Wow, thank you!
Scotty,.....the best and smartest automotive expert on RUclips. What he says is the truth. Plus he's funny.
Can either the Toyota or Honda tow my 6500 Lb boat and 4 passengers comfortably to the cottage with all their gear for a week? Ya, that’s why my Lincoln Navigator is the vehicle of choice.
The jeep wagoneer died after the first gen cars were redesigned.😊
2002 Sequoia v8 4.7 with 285,000 and over and still going never getting rid of it.
Scotty, you just saved me thousands. Many thanks!
is a jeep, a Chrysler, a fiat, why would anyone buy it?
That Toyota must be built in Mexico - never heard of them in Australia. The new large size SUV in Oz is the 300 series Landcruiser - which is junk too; best large SUV Toyota is the V8 Landcruiser 200 series - luckily you guys got those - probably better value $/mile than a Camry
Anyone else notice the steering wheel being on the right side instead of the left? When did we move to europe?
The toaho is bigger that the jeep but still gets better gass milage wow wasn't expecting that and I'm a gm guy
Family of 6. There ain't enough cargo room in a minivan when we're traveling. Not even with a roof rack and/or hitch basket. We used those with our old Ford Expedition EL.
If I could get away with a minivan, I would.
Kia Carnival easily swallows 6 adult size teenagers and luggage. I’m Australia we have the diesel which leaves the V6 for dead. Can’t do that in any SUV.
I also enjoy Scotty's "Explaining Computers" channel.
Why in the year 2024 vehicle parts are still breaking down?
It costs too much for Go-Karts 4 Growned-Ups. Go-Karts with buckets in the back, Go-Karts with 3rd row seating, Go-Karts with a luxury bidet and a masseuse in the back, Trunk Monkey you name it, all the bells and whistles and it's mostly useless crap, like a Mercedes car phone bigger than a dumbbell, go throw away six figures to have it all depreciate faster that a dump in the outhouse, lolol!!!
Seems like Sequoia part was recorded before announcing the 2024 Land Cruiser, hear this part 6:15
I still find it ridiculous that these car makers don’t want to make vehicles with better MPG! I know it’s possible!!
Crazy prices + low quality is a problem across the board these days. Car brands used to mean something. Not anymore. Even Audi outsourced their Q5 production to Mexico and it totally sucks.
The build quality on then is worse than American cars. The difference between the q5 and q7 is immense.
Something has gone very wrong with the car industry. It's like they don't care anymore.
Didnt Q throw the Enterprise at the Borg?
They regretted it.. eventually. Just like manufacturers killing affordable cars!
If neither minivan is safe......why buy either one?
Define "safe." It's hard to meet the criteria when they keep changing. What was "safe" in 1985 wouldn't meet today's standards. Personally, I think safety measures should be subject to cost-benefit analyses before they are implemented and we all have to pay for them.
If they are safe... why not?
Toyota has taken very careful aim at its feet--in the US. They are now selling their best vehicles elsewhere.
Bottom line, we buy what we can afford not what's the safest.
Scotty going bonkers ? In a previous video he claims that the 4Runner was the best vehicle and now claims SUVs are the worst vehicles !
This must be an outdated video talking about eight cylinder engines. SUVs are now a six cylinder with turbo.
And soon 4 cylinder turbos. Which aren't designed for towing
@@cactneir 👍Yikes. You don’t save much fuel with a smaller engine. You will still need the same amount of BTU to pull the same weight of the vehicle.
@@cactneirhow many people ACTUALLY tow with their SUVs? I see many more utes in the parking lot at the supermarket than towing anything.
@@joesantamaria5874 it's all a laughing matter until that off ramp ices over and you're stuck on the highway because your engine is weak
@@cactneir I drove cars with weak engines in snow and ice in Buffalo, Rochester, and all type way up to Plattsburgh in the winter with no problems. I stand by my assertion that most SUVs are in the lot at Target than towing. You don’t need a 454 for that. ✌️
Hi. Are you going to cover Lexus TX?
I like Toyota Sequoia .
I have a Toyota Tundra 2022 TRD sport and never had a problem with her . ( built on same platform with sequoia)
Price is a big downside … ridiculous expensive…..
It’s a 2022…..I’d be pissed if I bought a 2022 and it had issues before it was 5 years old lol
I hope you are safe from the floods and tornadoes
Problem with a mini van is you can’t tow a 7,200 lbs boat. I want the worst fuel economy, and largest carbon footprint. So it looks like the Jeep will be next for me. I am on Expedition EL #3 now. They just have become lower and lower quality.
I wouldn’t ever buy hybrid , unless it could be completely independent gas . More features means more problems - make these new features easily disabled so you don’t have to deal with the new issues and keep things simple previous design .
People liked the designs of the past , no need to change .