The $45BN New Railway Beneath Paris
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When we try to do something similar in Italy, we dig two metric cubes up and stop for 17 years: they found another Roman brothel.
Really ? xD
That happens literally anywhere where Romans highly present. In my city they were re-designing a street in Downtown and they found a fuck ton of just random Roman stuff and because of that it took like a year to finish it.
@@sanapadsense1999 they're exaggerating, but yes it's definitely a hindrance to construction projects there. That's why Rome is known for having a notoriously bad metro system (I think it's only 3 lines) because every few meters of digging they have to stop and excavate a new archeological site.
lmao nice
Hahaha. Yes I hear you. At some point the past must give way to the future. The Roman’s would’ve had no such compunction in doing whatever needed to be done to build a project.
Wow, so France is just casually doubling the size of the Paris metro without making a fuss about it.
The only fuss about it come from the suburb area. The cost of such projects is shared between the state, the region, the departement, etc... The suburbs around Paris tends to have their own developpment budgets sucked dry by Paris.
French only whine whatever the project is
Yep. No shouting from the top of buildings claiming to link the west to the east , drilling underground a huge ancient city...blah blah.
@@rp7159 they are digging especially deeper to avoid that.
why should we make a fuss about it?
My uncle is a worker in the planning and construction of this tunnel, he explained us how much of a hassle it is. The logistics of it are huge.
I'll bet! I've been involved with much smaller projects, and so much more goes into even those than most people would imagine! Your uncle must be a hit at family gatherings-enjoy!
This is the reality not understood or just not discussed by the B1M. Shiny megaprojects are great, but they involve an army of politicians, bureaucrats, lawyers, finance professionals, engineers, environmental professionals, supply chains, and tons of stakeholder groups (communities, advocate groups, etc.). This massive coordination is what truly impresses me, more so than the project itself.
@@darthjohn0 Hence a hefty budget of €45 billions to ensure there's plenty there to grease hands, speed things up, etc.
@@xontheweb2376 Bear in mind that Crossrail was 42km of new tunnel from 8 TBM (vs 200km from 21 TBM for this) at a cost of £20billion+
Having worked on Thames Tideway, Crossrail, HS2 and Hinkley Point C cooling tunnels, the scale of this Parisian project makes my head spin.
@Hunter Hayes sorry I have no idea, I think he used to operate the tunnel bore machine thing, and then he was reafected to diplomatic tasks, like argue with the mayors of the towns they're drilling through and all that... I don't think he was ever in charge of the software side of things
Many people when they hear Paris they think of it as city of romance and elegance, when I hear Paris I think about the greatest example of modern infrastructure combined with classical aesthetic. It is one of the best city in my opinion.
Yeah the smell of must and cigarette smoke everywhere you go. Definitely the BEST city.
Metros are stupid. You just burry the transit underground, so cars can continue to drive on the surface. Trams/light rail is much better, cheaper, faster to make, can have more stops, and take car lanes away, and makes the transit visible for people, and you can enjoy the view of the city by riding them, unlike the metro.
@@ncard00metros are faster, carries more people, and be more safer due to being detached from cars and other traffic while having its own dedicated right of ways with automatic signalling and new platform screen doors. If you want to take out car lanes so bad with metros, you can always put them in elevated viaducts like newer systems. It’s foolish to say people only recognize transit if they see it, there are thousands of users for the metro and RER system and it has segments being underground as well. There are reasons why Trams/Light Rail work for certain areas and corridors while metros have theirs as well, it just depends on the problem they are trying to fix and how to connect those systems to the greater transit network with good transit user experience.
Paris has 14 trams like you described
As all Parisian I can confirm we are amazed with this project and we look forward to seeing it operational pretty soon... it will change our life. Our way of living into the city. It will reshape residential issues and make more affordable access to business districts for everyone. A masterpiece.
lol
oui, le truc c'est qu'effectivement personne n'en parle , il y a deux vidéos française de 5 minutes sur le sujet ^^ C'est très bizarre. C'est comme les gens qui se plaignent toujours que Paris serait "un musée/poussiéreux/" alors que l’agglomération parisienne est en totale transformation et que c'est très bien de préserver le centre et de garder la modernité pour l'extérieur. Ce serait bien de communiquer un peu plus , donner de l'éspoir, parler des bonnes nouvelles et des réussites aussi.
@@backintimealwyn5736 Laisse tomber. L’humanité aime se vautrer dans le négativisme permanent, la rubrique des chiens écrasés et les trains qui partent en retard … Si les gens voyageaient un petit peu plus plutôt que de « s’informer » sur internet ils verraient à quel point on a de la chance de vivre en France …
@@m.nightingale3579 j'ai vu une vidéo sur la nouvelle station de la ligne 14, les gens étaient hyper contents. Je crois vraiment que ça vient plus d'un biais de nos médias que d'un manque de volonté des gens. Je crois même que les français ont vraiment très envie d'entendre des bonnes nouvelles. Après c'est vrai qu'on a une tendance culturelle à se plaindre et à s'autocritiquer, ça m'agace d'ailleurs. Parfois c'est à raison, mais souvent c'est juste pour le sport.
@@backintimealwyn5736 le problème aussi c'est que les résultats actuels ne sont pas si bons. Les nouveaux arrêts de la ligne 14 (que j'utilise) sont très peu utilisés par les personnes de la ligne 13, ligne 13 qui alors reste pleine à craquer malheureusement. Mais j'ai bonne espoir pour le reste du projet qui pour moi est fantastique
Worked in the French property sector for a little over a year after transferring from my home countries office. I got such a high respect for French engineering. They are world class. They manage large and complex project and have an architectural vision. The country has some of the worlds largest construction firms. Engineering schools are centuries old with high tradition and the competences of French engineers have been build up over centuries.
Yeah, almost all of our best schools are engineering schools XD
Yeah Germany has the reputation for being an engineering giant but personally I think French engineers have something extra
French engineers might be good, but in this project companies from different countries are working at the project.
But do your companies use affirmative action for DEI goals? When I was in Paris last, the police appeared over 90% European.
As a Londoner I envy the Parisians they just get on with it no public enquiry delaying things a government which supports and puts money proper money into projects not on the cheap ,would the builders of the Paris system have a word with cross rail and other delayed tube lines in the capital and also the builders of the lines in the north of the U.K. ,respect Paris to you 🇫🇷❤️🇬🇧
As a New Yorker, I can assure you that however poorly London and Paris execute their projects, it's nowhere near as bad as we have it! 😂
It was so hard to undestand, I thought you were praising paris, then criticizing it, and finally praising it again....
I don't understand anything you're saying
Crossrail was pitched in the 70’s
I thought the Brits were good at English, apparently not.
I truly loved the Paris Metro. I have never experienced such an "underground city" in any other country. It was truly a masterpiece. You could be anywhere in Paris and you would have access to the metro station every 500 meters. Truly amazing. If I would live there, I wouldn't need a car. I wish the US would take seriously investing into public transport. It is such a hassle to have to drive everywhere...
I would love Paris' metro too if there wasn't so much homeless people and stinky people
That's why I prefer tramways
I totally agree. Maybe to get Public Transport you would need to be more politically organized inc a Lobby group.
In the US, everything runs on lobby groups, in a big part because Congress doesmt pay staff much, so lobby groups do. And Corporations like that.
Andrew Yang recently had a guest on his YT channel (Forward Party) with the man who wrote the best book US Lobby Groups & how that came to be.
@@estebanod People are also always in a hurry there, if you don't walk fast enough everyone will get frustrated with you. So no, I don't like the Paris metro either. Definitely a world on its own though.
@@DarkAngelEU you don't need to walk fast if you take the metro, but like on the road if you are slow , stay on the right. When you are on a hurry, and people block all the passage, it's frustrating. Same on the escalator, if you don't want to climb them and just wait, stay on the right so people can pass you.
@@amaury784 Ah, I didn't know there was an unwritten law about sticking to the right if you want to walk on your own pace. Just in time to enjoy Paris, as well. Cheers! :D
I can tell from my personal experience that French engineers are excellent and way underrated. They manage highly complex projects that would not be possible in many others European countries (e.g. Germany) and are in my opinion world-class.
The french have the best construction companies in the world like, Vinci, Bouygues or Eiffage
They are not underrated. In construction, they are considered as the best in the world. France has 3 of the 5 big companies in construction : Vinci, Bouygues and Eiffage. With CSCEC (China) and ACS (Spain), they are a reference.
French engineers & scientists are not underrated lol... They are considered top tier and in the US we fight hard to hire them. Their education system is designed since Napoleon to train the best scientific elites
@@CrystalStearOfTheCas really? How do you know that?
@@SamYTB26 well, I'm French, but I did a quick Google search after your post and I can confirm that Napoleon did indeed set up the education system for the elites, and it hasn't changed much, the wiki article is very well sourced
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I actually live in one of the suburbs directly involved by this project. I even attended the 'christening' of one of the TBMs ! It was a proper popular party with bands, drinks, food, speeches, art performances... It then took a full 2 to 3 months until the last piece of the TBM was lowered into the tunnel and assembled to the machine. It's on its subterranean way to the airport now.
Railway tunnel construction always amaze me.Idk how they manage to make these tunnels using such huge machineries in such crowded areas. So thanks B1M for uploading this video.
@kroooassant It's really good I've been watching it for 40 mins now.Thanks for ur recommendation buddy.
@kroooassant This is as true as the fact that earth is not flat.
If I can bring you more details, they really study the nature of the soil well and adapt the front of the boring machine to it, and they also use some satellites that will say if a building or an infrastructure is moving. that's quite interesting !
@@mickaelconstantin7467 Very interesting
The RER E will be extended far in the region as well. It will sit well in the greater Paris network as it will go through La Défense and gare du nord and connect many towns in western Paris all the way to north east Paris.
In addition there are several tramway extensions and some new lines planned. The map shown in this video doesn't actually show the full scale of what is going on.
@@TheWhale45 indeed. And the driver has to sleep there until he can start his work again the next morning. I heard of drivers who waited months before they had the chance to be close enough when they had to stop to be able to spend a night home
@@TheWhale45 I think you had experienced an issue on the track or something like that. Because normally the last train goes where it is supposed to go. But a lot of tourists just assume that every train will go to the end of the line which is not true at all. But everything is clearly labelled and copiously repeated in the train in multiple languages.
@@TheWhale45 hum this is surprising. I'm French and before moving to London I've spent my first 29 years in the suburb of Paris (I am 33). If what you said happened, this was maybe an exception. I've taken countless of time the last RER and this never happened to me. The train always stopped at its last station. For the RER A eastbound, it could be Disney or Torcy. For the RER E South East, it could be Tournan or Villiers sur Marne etc... This had already happened to me that the last train had to stop at a random station but this was because of a trespassing on the track. Other time was during the summer partial closure of the lines.
@@TheWhale45 perhaps it was simply bound for this station? There usually are several services on the same line, express trains for instance.
@@TheWhale45 during the night (normally between midnight and 5 am), some bus lines called 'noctilien' are put in place. They are essentially following the same path and stops than the rer lines. If you're travelling late in Paris (and surroundings) and you're on a budget, it is definitely the best option.
Been working on the tunnelling for this project for the last three years :) Love seeing it featured on the B1M!
Trop lent les français.Les chinois auraient déjà fini
@@DanDan-zj6lu Tu as probablement raison. Pourtant les chinois creusent plus de tunnels chaque année que le rest du monde cumulé...
@@DanDan-zj6lu cela dit, les français sont quand même parmi les meilleurs en travaux souterrains.
Wow awesome, what do you do? Do you or anyone know:
(1) If studying Civil Engineering in France, is it all spoken & written in French?
(2) If working on large Construction projects in France, is it also all written & spoken in French?
I know it seems like the answer should be "yes", but for certain reasons i thought it might be otherwise.
Thanks to reply 🙏🙏
@@pebblepod30 Yes you will need to learn French to both study and work in civil engineering in France. It is still possible to do some work in english but it would be little temporary gigs and not a full time job.
Looking forward to visiting Paris one day again to travel on this new metro
Please don't!
By the time you visit there, it well be called as 'Islamic Republic of Paris'.
Be sure to wear your mask when visiting Paris! Bonjour!
Well, if you're just visiting Paris you probably won't particularly need those specific lines, I guess.
@@forefatherofmankind3305 IM SO SORRY FOR LAUGHING
was there last year around this time, the french people are extremely nice!
Pandemic is a perfect time for these mega projects. You can actually close parts of the transportation system where needed without inconveniencing many people.
Yeah only thing is that mega project usually take years to be finished, and let's not hope the pandemic takes that long
What, closing them for 6 years? What the F are you smoking you tossah
They also take 5 to 10 years to design and plan so you need to know when the pandemics are coming ;)
@@boarendshorst3007 You forget the funding...
Pandemics and bad economic times are never far apart...
This project is almost 50B$...even for france ...that is in no way pocket change
however the pandemic can also stop mega projects before they are actually started. Take a look at the Munich International Airport in Germany. A 3rd runway was discussed with pros and cons for a long time, and now with the need for air travell being greatly reduced they are very close to completly drop plans of a 3rd runway
An idea for a video : the Lyon's underground train station mega project. I promise you, this is huge! I've never seen a project like this one before it is just astonishing how engineers and architects made this project real.
Could you send me a link of this project? I want to see!!
I also wanna see
AFAIK the underground station project has been trashed 😭 Here is the old public debate page noeud-ferroviaire-lyonnais.debatpublic.fr/le-projet/descriptif-projet but apparently since it was the dear project of Gerard Collomb the previous head of the Lyon Métropole.
To date, this project is not under construction and is not even in the study phase, therefore you cannot put it here because it is only proposed
@@samdorian3129 Et surtout il semble abandonné par le nouvelle mandature 😉
Paris. This railway will just add to the wonders of the city
Just like the homeless people sitting in the metro stations for days and smelling of piss
@@moover123 some are true works of art.
For those who are interested ...
-the 21st TBM is being assembled on site.
--- Line 15 (red circular)
-The southern section of the line is almost finished with regard to the tunnels ... 8 TBMs are digging the final parts and the tunnel will be finished around March 2021 / May 2021 for the last sections.
-On the eastern part of the line, the first rails(tracks) are being installed and the stations in the same sector are at the start of equipment installation.
-The SMRs (maintenance center) are under construction about 50% and the connection tunnels almost finished
-The opening of the southern section is estimated for the end of 2024.
--- Line 16 (Rose East Line)
-Currently 4 TBMs in progress and one on the SMR link tunnel.
-SMR under construction (at least 30%)
- "Box stations" under construction on the eastern stations.
-Opening scheduled for end 2024/early 2025 between St Denis and Montfermeil.
--- Line 17.
(green line)
-1 TBM on the line being excavated.
-Stations being excavated
Bourget / St Denis section scheduled for 2025/2026 at worst
-Section Bourget Roissy scheduled for later around 2027
--- Line 18
-The construction agreements are validated
-Stations being excavated between Orly and Orsay.
-The first TBMs will arrive in 2021/2022
--- Line 14
-passage from 6-car trains (Mp89-6 and Mp05) to 8-car trains (Mp14-8)actually 2 on line, 4 more coming soon
- North extension 1 opens in December (St ouen)
- North extension 2 (St Denis) is dug. One begins the engineering and the installation of tracks ... opening around 2023
South extension
-3 TBM on this section
-75% of the tunnels finished, there is still a section to be dug.This will be finished by mid 2021.
-SMR under construction (60/70%)
-The installation of the first tracks is for the beginning of 2021
-Opening for 2024
--- Line 11
-2 TBM in action, the aerial section under construction.
-SMR under construction (60/70% or more)
-installation of the first tracks in progress on the dug sections.
- Change from 4-car trains to 5-car trains (MP14-5 series) the first new train will arrive at the new SMR as soon as it is finished.
The first section openning for 2022
The Eastern section (Rosny/Noisy) is on break. Opênning for 2030
--- Line 4 South extension
Tunnels dug , TBM's transferred to other sites.
-Stations in finishing or engineering
-Opening in 2021 (not before July)
--- RER E
-TBM being excavated under Paris (tunnel dug at 50%)
-Station La Defense being excavated (under the buildings, the CNIT, 2 level of parking and close to the current underground station).
-West side exit tunnel finished ... dug without TBM.
- "La Folie" aerial station being finished, tracks installed.
-Opening for 2022.
These are the biggest current stages of the GPE projects + extension of lines.
The M12 north is behind schedule and will open in 2022.
(under construction)
The CDG Express is scheduled for 2024 (direct Paris CDG connection,under construction)
Line 15 South TBMs will leave for Line 15 East and West construction sites.
(Box stations under construction)
Line 14 TBMs will probably go to the L18 site.
The first trainset of these line (L15-16-17) will be Alstom Metropolis. The design has been chosen and the first models revealed. The first trainset are under construction and will leave the factory towards the end of 2021.
Alstom / bombardier will deliver for Paris between 2020 and 2024, the metros of the line 4/11/14 (75 trainsets) the RERNG of the RER D and E (255 trains) and the GPE metros (183 trains).
maps of TBM on project GPE
view.genial.ly/5dcd687e4f25860f36ef5aa3/interactive-image-tunneliers-du-gpe-v2
Incroyable commentaire ! Merci beaucoup !
Do you have an update on current progress ?
The informations I gathered here and there are conflicting.
Your previous list of progress was very helpful.
@@KyrilPG Yes .!!
from what I know:
-M4 : extended to the south...automatic trains soon inserted into traffic first empty...If all goes well, first automatic trains with passengers in autumn...100% automatic line at the end of 2023.
-M11: extension for the end of 2023/beginning of 2024 .... tunnel dug, rails being laid, station equipment in progress. The workshop-Rosny section is more advanced and serves as a test base for the equipment.
The Mp14-5 will arrive in the fall at the rate of 2 per month.
-M12 : extended to the north.
-M14 : extension to the south and north ... tunnels dug, rails laid, equipment and development of stations in progress. Opening 2024. Mp14-8 in delivery since October at the rate of 2 per month.
-M15 South : Tunnel finished (35km), rails being laid (9km in an April video) stations being equipped and fitted out. Workshop 1 being finished, Workshop 2 under construction. correspondence between the current lines and the M15 are being finished (some already finished). The St Maur-Cretil station will be several months late (it plunges to 52m deep).
-M15 East : a section under construction as well as the St denis Pleyel station, Hub of the M14-15-16-17. It will be made in one go rather than several pieces one after the other. Which means that when the M14 will open we will be able to see the deserted, but finished, platforms of the M15/16/17.
The next work begins at the start of the school year with the creation of stations and the digging of tunnels. Opening 2026/2028
-M15 West : nothing before 2023/2024 opening for 2028-2030.
M16 : Tunnels being dug (75% finished) Stations being prepared for laying the rails. Opening 2025/2026
M17 : Tunnels being dug (I would say 40%) the work of the viaduct is coming soon.
The common M16-17 Workshop under construction.
M18 : Tunnel being dug, half finished. The viaduct will soon be started either in June or September. The M18 will probably open in 2026 for the first section.
The first MR3V and MR6V of the M15-16-17 have been seen completed, at the Alstom factory (at least 2 each).
RER E : Tunnel finished, laying of tracks in progress, development and equipment of stations. West section to Nanterre scheduled for 2023, the rest until Mantes is 2024.
CDG Express : still scheduled for 2024 work in progress, tunnel finished, work on tracks and platforms at Gare de l'Est scheduled for September.
In short, things are progressing well.
@@Lodai974 Thank you VERY VERY VERY much !
A few questions tho.
M11 East extension > I thought it was going to open in the last quarter of 2022, it's been delayed ?
Do you know if "old" existing M11 stations that were / are renovated for the extension are now (or will be) accessible or at least all equipped with escalators from street to platform ? Or better, lifts ?
M15 South > Will Villejuif Gustave Roussy (M14 M15 hub) be like Pleyel : completely finished as soon as M14 South extension opens with M15 platforms simply sitting unused until M15 South also opens ?
M17 > What about Triangle de Gonesse station ? Is it going to be built ? Where and to serve what ?
M18 > I thought parts of the viaduct had already started being built for some time now. I'm pretty sure I've seen a video or two of quite advanced work sites.
Did I dream of it or get confused ?
RER E West > I thought that extension up to La Folie (or was it La Défense) was going to open this year's last quarter. I think I've read something like they'll open Haussmann SL to La Défense first, a little earlier than up to La Folie.
CDG Express > I have no clue where the tracks are laid or where the tunnel goes. Did not know it was that advanced. I have to find maps and building sites.
Where do you get all that information ?
I try to follow the advancement on the "official" websites and RUclips channels of the Grand Paris Express, RATP Group, erc. but it's scattered everywhere, frequently out of date or unclear.
I (try to) maintain a Google Maps layer with all the stations, "ouvrages", maintenance centers, etc. pinned as POIs but it's a complicated work given the hundreds of building sites.
Either by spotting them on sat or street view or by finding maps and lists on official pages.
I'd love to visit a few building sites, but I guess there's no way to get legit access for a visit ?
They should do tours of the whole undertaking, even paying ones, I'm pretty sure they'd be packed !
Once again, thanks A LOT ! 👍
@@KyrilPG
M11: yes it is delayed
Yes all old stations are refurbished with tiling.
Some have received escalators and new exits. Elevators I don't know, maybe.
M15 south : yes I think, but a slight delay in opening for this station will take place at the opening of the M14 sud.1 month or two I think.
M17 : not entirely built, it will be a reserved station.
M18 : yes, some pillars were started in March, it seems to me...the big piece must be in progress within the confines of the polytechnic.
RER E :I think early 2023 but nothing is 100% confirmed, it may be earlier. (the original M14 opened in 1998 a month in advance)
For the opening, the defense station (La Moria ^^) has two tracks around a central platform...we have to turn around at La Folie (4 platforms and 8 lanes it seems to me) so we have to both stations are ready.
CDG Exp : the route takes the tracks of the RER B/Transilien K between Paris la chapelle and Mitry Mory, then a tunnel to pass under the tracks of the RER and follow along the LGV.then tunnel (finished) under the runways .
For Paris, the bridge above the door of the chapel has been dismantled (it dated from the end of the 19th century). The section between the Paris North and Paris East routes is under construction.
Question : everything that is RATP is internal for me (friends, myself, and chefs work there).
The rest, info on the internet via instagram or linkedIn or some chefs put photos. The videos of the SGP or the SNCF or the RATP help.
We have on a forum members who are linked to the construction industry and to the projects they have news.
For Maps, too much delay on satellite images, not very useful.
Then I look at the construction sites when I take the RER (especially the CDG Exp).
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Phenomenal!
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You said it brother!
@@user-ph6bz8vh8i Lol on my screen the finger is off center so it’s pointing at nothing
@@jwaj that better 🤷🏻♂️
@@shawtop Thanks for acknowledging it
“The railway will better connect the suburbs with the city’s airports...”
*Shows Frankfurt airport in Germany*
So you say Frankfurt is not a suburb of Paris? 🤔
Well, germany is certainly in need of better trains and more subways. Especially old cities with narrow roads but lots of people.
@@hikingwithmarty Frankfurt is 3h40 from Paris. A little long for a commute maybe.
@@JohnHughesChampigny :P
The aesthetic, visual content, complex topics yet well-explained in much simpler way, these are one of the reasons why I love B1M. How I wish here in the Philippines, we will also complete our very first underground railway system soon. Its one of the ambitious projects ever in our country.
As an engineer, I wasn’t fully aware of this, thank you for bringing us quality content yet again!
The amount of money and effort Paris is putting into their public transit is incredible. Truly an example for all. Everything works perfectly together with a common design language, lovely.
And still can't rival with Japanese public transport
Obviously you don't live in Paris. It's been a mess for the last 10 years...
@@JACK-gi8kd I surely do not, but, what I said was that Paris is putting a lot of effort into making their public transit system great. I never said anything about the current situation.
Apart from certain lines being completely crowded, others like RER line B and D are completely sacrificed (delays everyday, vanishing trains, crowded rush hours ...). Some parts of the paris region trains (RER) network is managed by RATP (which operate all metro lines), and the other by SNCF (the french national railway company), so it makes things even worst some some line. Apart from (some) bad management and old infrastructures, the parisian network for public transportation is pretty incredible, including buses, you can go wherever you want in the Ile-de-France region for cheap.
Money is actually coming from Paris, the region, France and Europe 👍 Budget increase will mainly be handled by the Region thru a dedicated tax
My city is finally building metro...Construction starting 2021 after decades of waiting!
Where do you live?
@@TheB1M Belgrade Serbia (:
@Nikola Tatic Read the title of video?
@Nikola Tatic Ja ne znam jesil ti covar il ne znas citat?
@Nikola Tatic Bas divno
meanwhile american cities like "idk, does elon musk have any new ideas?" fml lmao
hahahshha the US is so sad omfg
He does have the boring company, which already has similar projects in Las Vegas, LA, and Chicago. While it would be great to have more trains in the US. The government subsidizing the automobile and plane travel is ultimately to blame for our lack of public transit and high speed rail.
America has many infrastructure projects going on right now. You must be blind.
@OAT351 Companies from Spain. We know here about Dallas.
Just imagine how many tolls we have here in Spain or other european countries...
This megaproject was first discussed in 2007 and look how much it took to build. The same happens with most mega projects being discussed in the US today, it takes time, negotiation, money and political will... everywhere.
One line, the RER A, handle more people every day than the whole NY subway. I live in Paris and don’t need a care, you can travel everywhere fast, and the price is low, only 76€ monthly that every company refund you anyway. Damn fucking socialism.
More than NYC subway? Could you give your sources please?
@@pierre976 salut Pierre, je te conseille de regarder Patriot act d’hassan Minaj sur les transports en commun aux États-Unis. Tu vas comprendre 😁
@@mrterin1234 Je vous remercie.
According to Wikipedia and other more reliable sources: 1,76 billion passengers every year for the subway system in New York (2015), against 309 million for the RER A (2011). Maybe comedy should not be used as a reliable source.
Could you talk about the AVE tunnel in Madrid and the extensions of the spanish high speed rail network in general?
Also the new AVE line from Galicia to Madrid.
@Kev Pog That would be the case if this was the 90's LOL
@Kev Pog cocorico much?
UK: were making crossrail.
France: hold my pain
Hold my Vin more like it!
We made our own Crossrail starting from the 1960s, it's called RER
@The Joker Nope. Just check what is the RER and you will understand your mistake.
@The Joker add the RER in your count. And you will see you are wrong
@The Joker There is a commuter service called Transilien. I don't add it. Like the commuter trains in London, their final stops are in Railway Stations. They don't cross the city. The RER is different.
it's more a mix betwen the London underground and the London overground. Copy/paste the Greater London with its metro lines and the Greater Paris, you will see that the Parisian cover only the downtown, whereas RER, is a regional metro service that enters in Paris and cross it completly.
London copied the idea with its Elisabeth Line.
as a briton, I seriously envy France's capability to build stuff with no delays and no cost overruns. They have had a big stomping intercity high speed since 1980's, meanwhile, our so called expresses get stuck behind commuters and freight.
There is actually SO MANY delays and cost overruns on the GPE,you just don't know about it
The new driverless train of Grand Paris Express metro line 14 has been inaugurated 2 weeks ago. I filmed it and uploaded it here. Very classy and high-tech train. Paris is far ahead of the game.
Grand Paris Express is actually a small part of the project. RER E rapid transit train is being extended and its length doubled, as well as over 50 km of several tramway linesare being built around the city. All the while the old metro network keeps being extended towards the outskirts of the city, adding a dozens or so of kilometres and several stations.
@@emmaisalone Amazed? No. What's is great is that it is a new type of train, a great one with plenty of nice features, screens, lighting, design and seats.
But it operates on the first real automated metro line that opened in 1998. Before Paris metro line 14 opened, automated metros were exclusively small scale networks with low ridership. In a few years, 1 million people will use line 14 every day.
First fully automated line in Paris opened 22 years ago more exactly
Paris is already a remarkable city, and this new network will further enhance its beauty by reducing surface traffic. 😃👌👌👏👏👏
If you don’t like The B1M, we can’t be friends 🙋
I second that, like who doesn't like B1M? My love for architecture and engineering came from this channel.
Sounds tolerant enough.
I showed it to my friends and one told me earlier he spent hours binge watching all their previous videos 😂😂
Well sorry dude, I only find videos about transport good. The rest is too much about skyscrapers. BORING AND BAD
Wander how lonely you are
Paris has sooo much public transport projects undergoing right now!!!
You could also speak about the RER line E extension who, once completed, is expected to reach more passengers than Crossrail (650 000 passengers per day).
RER E new substation built under the La Defense skycrappers ( under the CNIT and tube bellow the Total tower foundations) has lots of great engeneering tricks to cover 👍
The ringline is something I really appreciate about Berlin. Without passing through the inner city I could get easily to work at the other end of the city.
Moscow has that as well
I live on west of paris and work at the east. I just cross Paris in a straight. line, it takes me 50 min. I i had to go around, it would me much longer...
Great video! Please more about public transport and infrastructure projects in general :)
As a Parisian I must say I've been following this project for half a decade now, and I'm super stoked. I just love the idea that new areas around the city will be more easily accessible. The current goal of 2030 might not be attained, but close enough, and it seems so far off still, I wish we had these new lines now already !
I really like how Europeans places emphasis on functionality _and_ ✨beauty✨ on things they make. It doesnt have to be exclusively one or the other.
yet we're sadly losing the importance we give to beauty as years go by
lol, this is so not true. It's been 60 years that the concept of "beauty" has been deemed irrelevant and bourgeois. SO we endure a century of uglyness and arrogance from the intellectual elites that live in the beautiful historical buildings in the center, for the people they will only tolerate extreme uglyness. It got a tad better lately with the green touch , but still...
I think you have never been to Europe lmao
As an engineer I applaud the organisational work that goes into coordinating such huge projects. Incredible.
Sydney: 'We just extended our metro line under the harbour! Four TBMs!'
Paris: 'How cute' (pat pat pat)
tbm means?
@@imranhq13 a TBM is a tunnel boring machine.
@@pifdemestre7066 thanks brother
@@imranhq13 Its German for Tunnelbohrmaschine, the other Guy just translated it. It’s very funny because in southern of Germany in very small towns are like all of the big manufacturers for these TBMs, they ship them from there around the world
@@joshuagro7773 thanks for the info
Thank God for channels like this. 0% politics, 100% grand infrastructure projects. Much love from the USA!
The TBM invented over 170 years ago continues to amaze-imagine some parts of Paris do no know what is happening below them.Great reporting once more since the last show.
And for years we have been told Crossrail was the biggest infrastructure project in Europe. It’s not even half the size and we still don’t know when it will be finished. My guess 2025.
I think crossrail was more complex to set up because it goes inside the central London where the ground is extensively used. Grand Paris is easier to work on
@@beeniemen. I’m no expert but I believe the Paris Metro was very difficult to build. In one area they had to freeze the ground before it was possible to drill through.
And the London Underground is almost entirely north of the river because the ground there is perfect for tunnelling. Not much built south of the river because it’s difficult.
The aesthetic, visual content, complex topics yet well-explained in much simpler way, these are one of the reasons why I love B1M.
I've been living there on and off, since 1994, and now I'm living in a super-well-known place just next to Paris. Le Grand Paris Express is probably the most amazing development of the century, after the Eole (RER E) and the Line 14 of the subway. In addition to that - between 2003 and 2013 the Ile de France region went from absolutely terrible unpredictable busses without air conditioning to an almost totally predictable public transportation system which is air-conditioned and manages to run well even in the worst suburbs.
I've lived (during my career) in Saint Petersburg Russia, Oslo and Trondheim Norway, Kitakyushu Sapporo and Tokyo Japan, and a few other cities here and there (including London, but we had a car, so I have never taken public transportation in London) , Moscow (which is btw abysmally bad for anyone who's not working from home - and whether you're driving or taking a bus/metro/suburban train), and since I don't drive I had a chance to compare the public transportation systems overal.
Technology and practicality-wise Paris is great and has nothing to be ashamed of, even comparing to Tokyo.
Thats so cool! In germany we would take until 2030 just to get the papers through. After That we would take 10 years to start the planning and 10 more years to get funded. After that the Build would start. Then it would be delayed. And made more expensive. And delayed again, and again, and again. Maybe, just Maybe we would have the subway in 2100.
Oh wow didnt know germany had so much in common with canada lol
In Germany, we would build a tram. More or less the same efficiency for a tiny fraction of the cost.
It’s basically what it takes in France too they start in 2007 we are in 2020 and it should be done in 2030
@@marcustulliuscicero5443 you clearly have never lived in a major city if you think trams are as efficient as a metro-line.
So true. The Brenner-Base Tunnel between Italy and Austria has already reached some significant milestones. Germany which would only have to contribute an additional junction line for the project hasn't even began to build it yet due to several delays. It's crazy...
When I was in Paris more than a year ago I lived near a construction site and it was truly impressive to see the depth of the tunnels
Here in New York we’re still working on the 2nd Avenue Subway for the past 70 years...
I'm not American but the infrastructure of the railways over there is quite shocking.
@@ashyclaret sometimes literally!
I once saw this channel and got addicted from watching it
Now I never miss an upload from them
Omg I got hearted thank youu 💛
45 billion dollars for 200km of tunnel and station... sounds like a decent value when compared to other railway construction projects
HS2 will likely be in excess of £70 Billion in total. But then that is roughly 250-300 miles (~400-500km) of new track, stations and trains, which of course have to get upto higher speeds than a metro. The Grand Paris express will likely top out at around 60mph max (~100km/h), whereas HS2 is intended to be 160+mph
@@jamesbedford7327 yeah... its cost alot more to build a tunnel that high speed tracks
@@jamesbedford7327 HS2 is nothing compared to France's TGV though. 200mph and 1100 miles of track. When you say in excess of £70b you mean it's already up to £100b in forecasted costs. I'll actually be surprised if HS2 gets further than Birmingham before it's scrapped for financial reasons.
@@Derry_Aire HS2 will be a higher spec and built for speeds of 250mph with running speeds of 218mph.
Incredible that we in the UK wait for capacity to be reached, propose something which is then discussed for decades and then built it at a snails pace. Shocking.
And then it's way over budget
London: builds a single new line with an airport branch... takes forever.
Paris: doubles the amount of underground metro and will probably have a decent amount of it open before Crossrail (at this point) because of the Olympics in 2024.
I can’t believe I’ve never heard of this project before it’s massive
This Is because of the olympics games in 2024, in Paris
@@SamYTB26 it was decided before Paris entered the competition to win the games
English media doesn't report on infra projects on the European mainland because it makes English and American infra bad by comparison. English media wants to public to believe that their failing infra is the best it could possibly be.
I like how realistic the date of completion for the Paris underground project. Meanwhile, in my hometown of New York City, plans are still underway to replace the crumbling BQE that doesn't even have a start or finish due date.
What's BQE means?
@@leobragaurbe the Brooklyn Queens Expressway. It's a triple canterlever expressway.
@@AneudiD78 no comparison brother, french was been top in engineer for longtime we made the Statue of Liberty and gave it to you guys that can tell you how good the engineer logic that we taught at school here if you take engineer as a Major in Uni
@@arthurclover5990 The Golden Gate Bridge is bigger than the Statue of Liberty. :+)
Personnaly, I was amased by the rapide enlargement and the beauty of the Madrid metro in the 1990ies.
This is the best building channel ever. Always fascinates my mind with crazy new schemes I never even knew about! Great job B1M, I will definitely recommend your channel to others.
Your RUclips channel is amazing it's informative and entertaining. A lot of the things you talk about we never get to hear about elsewhere. Always look forward to watching your channel.
France has a keen eye for aesthetics
How on earth was I living all these time without subscribing to your channel! I've been watching your videos for almost 4 years now.
Now I've subscribed to your channel. We can't appreciate enough your wonderful, top class video productions.
Thanks for the video, it's a great project indeed! You could also have mentioned the RER E "EOLE" project in Paris, which is of a similar scale to the Crossrail project.
Yes this is going to be a big one too. To be extended this far in the region is huge and it will sit well in the greater Paris system as it will go through La Défense and gare du nord.
In addition there are several tramway extensions and some new lines planned. The map shown in this video doesn't actually show the full scale of what is going on.
I love Paris, but hate having to make international rail connections there, because there are numerous different stations, and the Metro and RER are a pain in the arse when carrying baggage. This seems a really cool project, but if it makes international railway stations more accessible, I'll be particularly thrilled.
That is not what the project is intended for. As said in the video it should improve the connections outside Paris, in the suburbs because that is where most people live now., instead of commuting through Paris itself. The connections inside Paris are already good, one way to improve for the baggage thing would be elevators though. However there is not enough people asking for it so it won't happen in the near future.
You are a lazy person. Metro and RER are efficient and cheap
Thank you. I haven’t heard about this before.
Maybe it is because I like London and understand English, I know about projects there like the Elizabeth Line and so on. However I don’t know so much about similar projects in the rest of Europe. Therefore this video was great. More enlightenment please :)
I live next door to the new automatic metro line 14. It is a masterpiece of engineering and now takes 14 minutes to get to St Lazar a major hub to get anywhere in Paris. But the knock on effect is the 30 odd tower cranes constructing all the units within a kilometer of our place.
London: we are making new rail connections that will redefine public transport
Paris: hold my croissant 🥐
It literally took me 5 minutes to figure out how to spell croissant 😂😂
don't spell it, EAT IT !!!! It's delicious 😂😂
It's pretty likely that once Crossrail is done, Crossrail 2 will be approved and construction will start then and probably finish not too long after this. Once you bung those two together you get a far bigger project than this one.
@@hoixthegreat8359 Paris already have their Crossrail with the RER A and the RER E will complete the east/west link. The line B, C and D provide the north/south link and will have new trains soon. When the 2 lines will be completed it will change londonners lives. Parisians can’t live without it anymore.
@@hoixthegreat8359 Crossrail is the 50 year overdue sister of the RER system(Which is also why i don't understand why they fucking call it the elizabeth line, it's an entirely new thing of it's own!).
When the length of crossrail approaches the total length of the RER's then it can be comparable.
@@johannmada972 Sorry but you're wrong. Grand Paris Express is not alone for Grand Paris transport developpement : RER E, new tramways and extension of existing metro lines : 1, 4, 10, 11, 12, 14...
Hey B1M could you do a video ranking the tallest buildings in each country of the world. With your production quality and narration it would make for an excellent viewing
It’s refreshing & reassuring to see news like this -
Europe finally realising there’s some catching up to do in terms of infrastructure, specially in cities.
Western & democratic leadership in the World stage is very much welcomed, thank you.
What a video!
Very informative!! love this channel.
I wonder what do you guys do other than making these videos??
Maybe constructing something big in the backyard :)
Ah. This video channel. Exceeding so many avenues of delight and pleasure. Here I am, eating breakfast and watching this channel while listening to a pleasureable voice describe this stunning project underneath Paris. It's the simple things in life, right? ;) Thank you B1M for existing!
Well..simple to listen and see, harder to put in the video and $%^@ hard to make it real!! I guess😌
They're also building RER E which I'm looking forward to using. It's always amazing to hear how much cheaper per km building a line in France is compared to the UK. We'd never be able to build 4 tube lines for €35bn.
@Varoon I mean the extension to the West
France has solid engineering companies and their engineers are recognised as the best in the world
Next - Copenhagens new metro lines
Great idea!
It’s shit. Everything else is good but the train is a big shit specially when it’s in the summer time with full of people and no air conditioning(this includes in most of the busses) so it is a big minus that they didn’t think about people in the hot summer 😆 oh And I think you still can’t use your internet on some the new metro lines(sometime no signal at all) I’m not sure about phone call tho but I think it’s working (that’s good for emergency situations) but other than that its clean (most of the times) and some of the metro stations are really nice.
@@TheOscDude they opted for no air condition for climate reasons.
@@TheOscDude the underground in London is hot as hell in summer
@@swagwanpiffting8796 Nice and cosy in Winter though!!
This project, London's Elizabeth Line and Tideway Super Sewer are three mind blowing projects in Europe right now.
Not quite the same, but I would say the 65 billion dollar ITER fusion plant being build in France at the moment is one of them as well.
@@tissot233 Yep, this too.
To be all inclusive we need to add the following projects as well: Brenner Base Tunnel, Koralm, Semmering, Rogfast, Fehmarn Fixed Link and EUGAL. I think these sum up all the gigantic projects in the European Economic Area (de facto EU) under construction right now.
HS2 and the entire Lyon-Turin HSR link (Inc. The Mont D'Ambin Base Tunnel) are also fairly hefty project going on at the moment - they can't be the only HSR projects in Europe but they are perhaps the two most impressive and notorious
@@chrisoddy8744
I missed the two of them in my list by mistake.
I guess the Nuclear Power plants being built in: Finland (essentially done), in France and Slovakia are also to be included.
I am also going to sate some of my wishful thinking - the undersea tunnel between Finland and Estonia and the link between Ireland and UK. But obviously the last two are just hopes and nothing more.
This is so much more exiting than crossrail lol
It certainly deserves its name, GRAND Paris Express.
That's a pretty impressive project!
The United States should send engineers to Europe and Asia so they can learn about what it takes to bring cities into the next century. All we do here is 'talk' about infrastructure . . . while watching the infrastructure crumble.
Without taxes no schools, roads, tunnels, rails, etc.
Decades of brainwashing made the US pretty unfree. Freedom starts from the mind.
What I've seen in the US is actually quite impressive as a lot of cities have LRT! Certainly better than the UK and my country Suomi!!!Our second city Tampere is at last building an LRT system instead of concentrating on Helsinki. Also we are building a rail tunnel to Estonia!
Probably finished BEFORE Crossrail, the Elizabeth Line. The original plan for Crossrail was to be completed BEFORE the 2012 London Olympics. Here in Maidenhead they were talking about combined Travel/Olympic Entry tickets. So when they say ready 2021 that is 9 years late.
Meanwhile NYC took a century to make 3 stops on the 2nd Avenue Subway
I love the way the orbital lines desaturate the core and link regional centers. Aside from all the other things it needs, NYC Subway needs something like that desperately in their Manhattan-centric system.
Could we please see the Chuo Shinkansen? That’d be another great topic.
Great vid, great voice! Keep up the good work B1M! Very interesting to get a better insight in all these cool and innovative construction projects
thanks for that video, I knew there was such a project and was wondering why it was taking so long (since i'd benefit from it) and now I know that this project is much bigger than I thought
we lost many years in the discussions of the project, such as the route of the lines and the location of the stations ... each government wanting to leave its signature ... in the end, the work began in 2018 while the project was almost finished in 2008 before being changed and re-changed for details ....
Can you do a video of public transit in Canada's biggest cities.... We're usually overshadowed by American transit (or lack thereof) but Canada's systems are big, complex, and unique.
Love your work B1M!
Yes finally a video on Paris !! :)
You're welcome!
@@TheB1M please do a video on La Defense, Paris :D
So, does this make it the largest project in Europe, larger than Crossrail in London?
Well rer is the equivalent of the crossrail in London and it's bigger so it was already the case.
Yes it’s bigger.
yes Crossrail will be 117 km long while Grand Paris Express will be 200 km long
Wasn't there some multi-national railway being constructed somewhere? Like Denmark to Sweden or something crossing the baltic countries? I'm sure B1M covered it a year ago.
@@krashd there’s the Rhine Danube corridor going through 14 countries with a cost of 100 BN euros
At $45 billion dollars this is one of the most expensive projects in all of human history. And I just heard about it.
The UK HS2 is going to cost $138 billion.
@@peterd788 HS2 is a robery. France built its whole high speed Network more than 2000km for less than this amount
@@freewal France is over twice the size of the UK and built huge tracts of its network in areas of low population density while simultaneously allowing the stations and lines of its regional railways to literally rot while SNCF took on financial liabilities greater than the national debt of Portugal at that time.
paris rapid~
Thank you for going into more detail on these projects :)
imagine we start building underground cities
Just wait for Mars
they already around like 1000 years.
STILL WAITING FOR UNDERWATER CITIES
imagine the vitamin D deficiencies
I suggest looking into the history of Edinburgh's underground
From west to east (~30km) its almost 2hrs of transport, but 40min in car. This project is more than needed
As someone living in the south suburbs of paris, i can tell you one thing that is not mentionned in the video: housing price in the suburbs (where moslty poorer people live, obviously) will go f*cking high so markets etc will get even more expensive than they already are and the suburbs will become unaffordable for most people currently living there, so the problem of poverty will be pushed even further away to be hidden/forgotten instead of actually doing something against that first.
@@user-uw3fi2zg4t Except that most people who live in the suburbs don't own anything. Most people who live there only rent a small flat.
@@user-uw3fi2zg4t Assuming they own the house they live in, which especially the poorest one most likely don't.
Paris is spending $45bn on new rail, Sydney is spending $45bn (AUD) on new motorways. 🤦♂️
An awesome project to cover would be Bogotá's metroline that's in the works
Thank you for covering it, I'm working on this project and yes this is huge
Infrastructure videos are always fascinating and the B1M does an excellent job in making these sort of videos. Great video B1M!
Bonjour, simple rappel , il ne s'agit pas du seule projet sur Paris (ile de France) car il y a également Eole '(ligne E) 2,8 milliard ( mise en service entre 2023 et 2024) et de nombreuse ligne de tramway (4 lignes) T9,T10,T11 et t12 en construction. Je n'oublierais pas le CDG express. Le métro et ses extensions ,comme les lignes 11 ,14 sud , 4 ETC . Bref il y a une profusion de gros (très gros) travaux.
yet again made it with in 14 mins of posting the vid! great stuff guys
That's an amazing time frame. When the San francisco East Bay bridge was damaged in 1989, it took until 1998 [or later] to have a design. After a few more years of wrangling, piles began driving around 2002. The bridge ...er... Half of the bridge that was replaced, opened in 2013. and went from $2bn to $6.15bn.
Including the emergency lanes, it's 14 lanes wide so it is not a small bridge at all. But still. Eleven years for a 3.5 km span?
Viva La France 🇫🇷
Paris does have a ring line, but it's 2 lines connected, lines 2 and 6
I love the video, complete knowledge about the project
I live jist near a future train station of the new metro. They started building 4 years ago and it won't end until 2025, but we are all proud that it's happening and can't wait for it to open
Why am I reading French people's comments and 'hearing' them with a french accent?
Great video as always. We have a new raiway line being bored in our city from the airport. My Dad works on the project and to bore the 2 tunnels they got the machines and support from Italy. Our project is only $1.6US but is a lot for Perth Australia