@@LeaPar4 by 1-2 they're referring to the underground level in the original SMB, where you could go above the level and find a warp pipe to skip worlds. Just about every super mario game has referenced this with a secret exit at the end or otherwise.
Great video! Loved opening up with the Salt video to show how big a deal this really was considering the 21 seemed so far away at the time. Also incredible TAS! Will definitely be checking that out now.
We've broken another minute barrier, gamers! Going above the ceiling seems familiar, yet completely new! I was also not expecting the Penguin Suit to be used this well in the route!
I was actually perplexed when I found out that NSMBW TASes used the propeller mushroom instead of the penguin suit, given the latter's speed potential.
@@leonrohow? The propeller helped with bombful,double bombless,and most of the jungle which saves 40-50 as the jungle bridge skip is huge but now we know a infinitely wall jump double bombless 20secs saves can be used with a penguin
@@Clearical_ penguin goes fast, propeller isn't particularly useful outside of a few levels and the item house at the beginning is accessible enough to give you penguin even if the route has to be repeated
Speedrunning really creates such an increased lifespan for any game, creating new discoveries even 14 years after every last intended secret nook and cranny has been discovered.
I stumbled upon this video and really liked it so I then proceeded to binge watch all of your videos. The way you speak really shows how interesting the topic is and makes you want to know more.
I saw the new tas a while ago, and when I saw the above the castle, I was just like "oh wow I haven't seen that before, neat!", didn't realize that was the first time it was ever revealed! wow
At first, I clicked on this video fearing the clickbait and the run not actually being changed a lot Turns out it wasn't clickbait, the TAS is incredibly different now, nice
I always knew one day sub 22 speedruns could happen, and it finally happened. but what I didn't expect is the insane ways people find JUST to save time
Fascinating TAS! I am not very familar with NSMB Wii speedrunning, so seeing some of these advanced penguin suit movements, and advanced infinite walljumping is interesting nontheless.
As someone who adored this game as a kid and even today, I’m still shocked people still speedrun this masterpiece and find some new and cool things to make the runs more interesting and more impressive.
Well remember, humans made the route that the TAS executes, so they are just making it do what they already can do, just better.. trying to think of theoretical runs that involve things that humans aren't even close to doing is hard to conceptualize for runners since they don't have a basis to start from, it's like if the BLJ was TAS exclusive, how long would it take for it to be discovered if humans didn't even know it was possible for a non-human to execute something they themselves cannot do?
Super Mario Bros. is about the same to be honest. Majority of the techniques done are TAS techniques, and (seemingly) impossible TAS techniques are now standardized in runs. It depends on the game to be honest, as the above states its just perfecting the already known formula.
The Penguin Suit is one of my favorite Mario power up, I was always kinda upset that it wasn’t used that much outside of World 3 and 4. Knowing that it’s now a crucial part of speedrunning this game makes me so happy!
6:40 probably not important for speedrunning, but you can have more than 2 Ice balls. After the 2nd is thrown there's a long timer until a 3rd can be thrown, but can be done in certain situations
I don't know if I missed it in the video, but I don't think I got quite _how_ nobody thought to try this until now, or why it might be difficult. He said there was a barrier further along the castle, but what was preventing anyone from doing it at the start all this time? Pretty wild for a literally 40 year old trick haha. Oldies but goodies.
the way that the TAS saved over a minute of time with the penguin suit, which was never even considered, reminds me of how often in games, the "meta " is typically not even the best choice. seriously, in most competitive games, the best choice isn't the best if you followed someone Elses advice instead of applying your own game logic to decide what is best for you to use. for instance, TF2 : pre jungle inferno. every spy was using the ambassador because it had headshot damage, even though its damage penalty and slower firing speed made its real DPS with 100% headshots only slightly better then no headshots with the stock revolver. TF2 : post jungle inferno. the spies were no longer using the ambassador, even though the only nerf was its long-range damage, and its Damage up close was what mattered 9 times out of 10. COD mobile : i played a tournament the day i installed because my friend wanted to play with me on it, i equipped a shotgun instead of what is typically meta in cod games simply because i wanted to use a shotgun. i got 2nd in that tournament.
it would be nice for a game to have a masive time saving glitch found not by professionals, but instead found by random people. just imagine how amusing it would be if speed runners were trying to make a sub hour speedrun of a game like that halo game with jorge and a random guy playing with friends went: " hey guys look, I'm a magician. i can disappear! * Shoots rocket at feet whilst at like half health, loses most of the health to the blast, gets launched up from the blast, hits a cutscene load zone near the roof that sets the point in the game to be near the end where the objective is to survive, and when the cutscene ends, he dies of fall damage, immediately beating the game* "
I checked the TAS after 4 minutes of this video, but somehow hearing about first cycle skip in MM shocks me even more. What the fuck thats actually a thing now? holy damn
I was surprised to see them go in a mushroom house lmao, really cool video! Do you think people might try for ice flower/penguin IL runs? (idk if they do those in this game)
Several years ago, the nsmbw IL leaderboards were filled with propeller, just like the full game boards. But as time has progressed, the Penguin suit has been implemented into the vast majority of IL runs (everything except for towers and a couple stray others).
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Watch the TAS: ruclips.net/video/1DNo4i29scc/видео.html
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Is it just me, or does the TAS looks satisfying?
That ceiling skip is such a neat unintentional throwback to classic world 1-2.
that was my first thought!
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Isnt that 1-3 with the yoshis?
@@LeaPar4 by 1-2 they're referring to the underground level in the original SMB, where you could go above the level and find a warp pipe to skip worlds. Just about every super mario game has referenced this with a secret exit at the end or otherwise.
@@KatherynneF ohh ok
I have a friend who loves penguins and the penguin Mario suit, I'll send her this video immediately.
🐧= Best
Marry her. Penguin is supreme
Penguins were the hidden solution all along, your friend knows more than she is letting on
Your friend has good taste
Your friend has good taste
the penguin suit stays ON during the speedrun.
It's the real Alex!?
The whole bit with the rotating pipe being capped off with "That is... until Penguin Mario came to town." Is just very comical to me for some reason.
Great video! Loved opening up with the Salt video to show how big a deal this really was considering the 21 seemed so far away at the time. Also incredible TAS! Will definitely be checking that out now.
We've broken another minute barrier, gamers! Going above the ceiling seems familiar, yet completely new! I was also not expecting the Penguin Suit to be used this well in the route!
we’ve?? nah….. they’ve 👑
gamers! ☠☠
I was actually perplexed when I found out that NSMBW TASes used the propeller mushroom instead of the penguin suit, given the latter's speed potential.
@@leonrohow? The propeller helped with bombful,double bombless,and most of the jungle which saves 40-50 as the jungle bridge skip is huge but now we know a infinitely wall jump double bombless 20secs saves can be used with a penguin
@@Clearical_ penguin goes fast, propeller isn't particularly useful outside of a few levels and the item house at the beginning is accessible enough to give you penguin even if the route has to be repeated
Thank you for covering this game's largest any% discovery in years!
This is why the ice flower and penguin suit are not allowed in Mario maker:
I'm mostly just shocked that someone managed to enter the pipe in 8-airship early, that was the highlight for me!
Fantastic video! I love hearing technical breakdowns of a TAS. This might be the most exciting TAS improvement to come out in awhile!
Those new tricks are so mesmerizing to watch. The parts when Mario is just FLYING through the stage with the ice flower and penguin suit is crazy!
Speedrunning really creates such an increased lifespan for any game, creating new discoveries even 14 years after every last intended secret nook and cranny has been discovered.
Great video! I love hearing about games getting new discoveries like this even after so much time.
Great video. Thanks for your very precise introduction about TAS. :D
I stumbled upon this video and really liked it so I then proceeded to binge watch all of your videos.
The way you speak really shows how interesting the topic is and makes you want to know more.
This means a lot to hear. Thank you
@@LunaticJ No problem ^^ And yet I don't know if I managed to find the right words to express how interesting it was ^^'
Wait until Mayro hears about this.
She's a friend of mine and she saw the TAS when it premiered, which is how I first heard about it
@@LunaticJ noice
this is crazy! never thought there was this much yet to be discovered in the game
I loved playing this game when I was just a child, me and my older brother would play for hours.
really awesome video lunatic, thanks for covering this🎉🎉🎉
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Glad you enjoyed it!
Walk like a Pengiun? That's Very Slow. Run like a Penguin in a Mario Bros Wii TAS? That's HYPER FAST! 😂
0:49 IT'S BEEN 14 YEARS
I love how at exactly 4:20 you talked the limitations of human anatomy.
I saw the new tas a while ago, and when I saw the above the castle, I was just like "oh wow I haven't seen that before, neat!", didn't realize that was the first time it was ever revealed! wow
just wanna say that little bit of editing at around 1:21 goes hard as fuck. Great editing on the beat there :D
At first, I clicked on this video fearing the clickbait and the run not actually being changed a lot
Turns out it wasn't clickbait, the TAS is incredibly different now, nice
I remember going to my friend's house on the weekends in kindergarten to play this game with him. It's awesome seeing new discoveries!
Now that I think about it
this was probably intentional
throwback to the first mario game
seeing this game i loved as a kid get absolutely pushed to the limit with these awesome speedrun tricks is mind blowing
Damn amazing quality, love wathcing these speedrun related vids. Subbed
These guys must be crazy 😮
Mario to Sonic: "Look at me. I am the super speedy blue furry now."
I always knew one day sub 22 speedruns could happen, and it finally happened. but what I didn't expect is the insane ways people find JUST to save time
Fascinating TAS! I am not very familar with NSMB Wii speedrunning, so seeing some of these advanced penguin suit movements, and advanced infinite walljumping is interesting nontheless.
This was the first game I ever played. Seeing it being so optimized brings me joy
“But there’s a twist, I mean literally, it’s twisting, or rather rotating, along with three other pipes” 🤓
I just watched the summoning salt video two days ago this is very good timing
I understand why this took so long to find. New Super Mario Bros. Wii is a tough game. Old school tough
Some might say it tests even the most seasoned platforming veterans
Above the Castle was discovered on my 14th birthday!
As someone who adored this game as a kid and even today, I’m still shocked people still speedrun this masterpiece and find some new and cool things to make the runs more interesting and more impressive.
Really awesome video! The NSMB speedrunning community thanks you!
5:05 Mario straight up clipped into the spikey green ball
nah that’s just penguin mario using 0.1% of his power
OMG THE FUNNY "AND JUST LIKE THAT THE COMMUNITY WAS IN REMISS" SONG AT THE START
11:15 that song sounds like it's from the legendary starfy? if it's not from there where is it from?
Everyone is hyping ceiling skip but that pipe skip on the airship is just *chefs kiss*
“I’m inside-a your walls, Bowser!”
I always thought it’s strange when TASs are similar to regular play. I feel like TASs will end up looking crazy and different.
Well remember, humans made the route that the TAS executes, so they are just making it do what they already can do, just better.. trying to think of theoretical runs that involve things that humans aren't even close to doing is hard to conceptualize for runners since they don't have a basis to start from, it's like if the BLJ was TAS exclusive, how long would it take for it to be discovered if humans didn't even know it was possible for a non-human to execute something they themselves cannot do?
Super Mario Bros. is about the same to be honest.
Majority of the techniques done are TAS techniques, and (seemingly) impossible TAS techniques are now standardized in runs.
It depends on the game to be honest, as the above states its just perfecting the already known formula.
Out of all the ideas, they went into Power Up Panels, used the Penguin Suit, and even optimized the STAR. crazy!
I really love how this game still has content and mods being made on it
I always wondered in the TAS why the penguin didn't just run to the pipe, wasting time. Now I understand it saved way more time than the previous WR
qr1pt1k fam is like this famished cook looking at others having feasts that he has to make for them
The Penguin Suit is one of my favorite Mario power up, I was always kinda upset that it wasn’t used that much outside of World 3 and 4. Knowing that it’s now a crucial part of speedrunning this game makes me so happy!
Honey wake up, new SummoningSalt Lore just dropped
6:40 probably not important for speedrunning, but you can have more than 2 Ice balls. After the 2nd is thrown there's a long timer until a 3rd can be thrown, but can be done in certain situations
I waited so long for a video about the new strats. It's so great that you made such a god tier video about it! ❤
Suddenly, the Penguin route is performed humanly.
Nice video g
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Congrats on wurl rekky
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@@RedsMSR facts g
#sharpforlife
How did nobody find ATC before 2023?!
I find it more impressive how that insane TAS only saves 1 minute. Seems crazy to me how good the actual players on the leaderboard must be...
This is amazing, it has changed completely the speedrun
I remember discovering the ceiling skip when i was in 3rd-5th grade. Glad more people are discovering this.
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NSMB wii has such good theme design, like the massive stone walls with lava and the fire holders
Absolutely crazy TAS and WR!
I don't know if I missed it in the video, but I don't think I got quite _how_ nobody thought to try this until now, or why it might be difficult. He said there was a barrier further along the castle, but what was preventing anyone from doing it at the start all this time? Pretty wild for a literally 40 year old trick haha. Oldies but goodies.
guiding that fireball to get the 1 block gap wouldve been the hardest part to discover
I wish I was mario, then people would think I'm cool
Truee
I'm so glad my attention has been brought to this great discovering both👏
i have always said nomatter how unrealistic a goal may seem in speedrunning it will be done at some point
It took 14 years for speedrunners to realise you can just run over the wall
I was watching the tas before and I thought it was a gimmick run. Little did I know they were giga brain
I thought this game was basically near maxed and then a new skip emerges.
ive tried to get over there as a joke but I had no idea that it was possible
Love the Thousand year door music.
they finally got in the pipe before it rotated away
mario bros wii was my first game ever, is you showed 8 year old me this TAS speedrun, my mind would've exploded
had no idea skips even existed in this game
The beauty of speedrunning
the way that the TAS saved over a minute of time with the penguin suit, which was never even considered, reminds me of how often in games, the "meta " is typically not even the best choice.
seriously, in most competitive games, the best choice isn't the best if you followed someone Elses advice instead of applying your own game logic to decide what is best for you to use.
for instance,
TF2 : pre jungle inferno.
every spy was using the ambassador because it had headshot damage, even though its damage penalty and slower firing speed made its real DPS with 100% headshots only slightly better then no headshots with the stock revolver.
TF2 : post jungle inferno.
the spies were no longer using the ambassador, even though the only nerf was its long-range damage, and its Damage up close was what mattered 9 times out of 10.
COD mobile :
i played a tournament the day i installed because my friend wanted to play with me on it, i equipped a shotgun instead of what is typically meta in cod games simply because i wanted to use a shotgun.
i got 2nd in that tournament.
Excellent video
it would be nice for a game to have a masive time saving glitch found not by professionals, but instead found by random people.
just imagine how amusing it would be if speed runners were trying to make a sub hour speedrun of a game like that halo game with jorge and a random guy playing with friends went: " hey guys look, I'm a magician. i can disappear! * Shoots rocket at feet whilst at like half health, loses most of the health to the blast, gets launched up from the blast, hits a cutscene load zone near the roof that sets the point in the game to be near the end where the objective is to survive, and when the cutscene ends, he dies of fall damage, immediately beating the game* "
Where my fish juice strat.
1-2, 1-3, and 5-1
@@MGR-tasyou the best fish juice drinker ma boah
Epilepsy Warning
I rember seeing this tas
That ice flower trick with climbing one way was probably inspired by the one in mario maker
Amazing video
I don't even watch SMBW speedruns
How did I not know about this sooner?!
I just noticed the transparency background on the thumbnail. Is that new? That's really clever
I checked the TAS after 4 minutes of this video, but somehow hearing about first cycle skip in MM shocks me even more. What the fuck thats actually a thing now? holy damn
Yo I thought this was a summoning salt vid for the entire duration of me watching it
Q: does the tas you use left and right on the same frame? Idk if it would give an advantage or not.
There is no benefit to left + right in nsmbw, so it is not used.
@@MGR-tas ok thanks for sharing!
This is just unbelievable
11:58, If you actually scanned that QR code to watch the video then ur built different lol
But the fact that he made a QR code kills me 😭😭
bro had similar voice of Summoning Salt, amazing
Penguin suit more like seal suit
I was surprised to see them go in a mushroom house lmao, really cool video! Do you think people might try for ice flower/penguin IL runs? (idk if they do those in this game)
Several years ago, the nsmbw IL leaderboards were filled with propeller, just like the full game boards. But as time has progressed, the Penguin suit has been implemented into the vast majority of IL runs (everything except for towers and a couple stray others).
@@MGR-tas cool, thanks for the reply! Nice work on the TAS
lore accurate mario
i didn't even know there are skips in this amazing game!!!!
What is the song at the end of the video? It's beautiful
cool vid but the strat is called the meal not atc
8:16 “than Nintended”