Glad to get a video with some commentary and step by step. Love the videos and how you guys are keeping these things on the road instead of parting everything out. I will say I'm glad I don't live where they salt the roads!
Thanks for the video. I'm an amateur just finishing up similar repairs on my 02 wagon. Your videos are a great guide to the "right way" to do things. While my work would hardly be considered professional, I am also trying to do it the right way welding in new metal and aggressively attacking any rust I find. Seeing it done the wrong way as this car was makes me feel better about what I'm accomplishing. My car had that rubber undercoating on most of the underbody from the factory (as far as I know, I've had the car since 2006). Even the factory undercoating seems to encourage rust and there are definitely areas that will need to be wire wheeled and repainted eventually as well.
Love watching you guys saving one Subie after another. Best in class... I have an 05 STI and would love to bring it to you guys for some work (for the most part, my car is in decent shape). If only you guys were closer to the Qc border :( Keep up the great work.
Absolutely great work as always! Cant wait to bring my hawkeye up to you guys for rocker work and underbody love. Love your channel Keep up the great work !
Kudos for taking that on, I think most of us would have broken or reshelled it… wouldn’t have liked to have been in an accident in that car with so much rust and filler in it, even in the chassis rails… shame on the dealer that sold it!!
Are the lower pinch welds structural ? I have cut out the lower part of my 02 WRX rocker panels the upper pinch welds are intact! It is now as at 10:17
@@abhiT569 the inner or center section is structural. Any repair attempt will enhance it vs it being rotted away. So dont be too hard on yourself with the repair
@@TheSubieSanctuary I am not planning on welding in new pieces as I plan to use it only for Rallycross events! Do you think I should reinforce it or they will be fine as it is at 10:17 like I mentioned. ty
@@abhiT569 anything really to at least fill the hole really then. You dont want mud and dust flying up through. Could always screw a patch on with some sealer on the edges
@@TheSubieSanctuary sure I can do that! But if it is important for the structural integrity of the car, I was thinking of using a DOM tube and bolt it in with U bolts or something and at a later point tie it in to the roll cage, but only if its necessary!! Material cost is not much but the amount of work is huge. If I fail the safety inspection because of this I will surely have to do it
@@abhiT569 the tube would actually be a great idea, if you get right size square bar it could essentially replace the whole rocker section and up the rigidity
Invest in a good quality, breathable car cover for winter storage. Cheap ones trap moisture under the car and can cause rust to develop like this while the car is in storage.
Learned a lot from watching this video. Thanks for posting! I have similar issues and one shop was worried about working on my Hawkeye because in addition to the rockers, the rust looks like it is eating into the floors like on this vehicle. So they were saying the rust will just keep going. Were you guys concerned that the floors on this car would continue to rust? You said you didn't want to "poke a hole in them if you didn't have to" so then how do you know if they are strong enough to paint over? Also the mounts for the outrigger assembly looked kind of rusted out as well. Where do those attach to (I had thought it was the rocker panels) and would the body have been strong enough for you to replace these and the bushings if your client wanted you to do that? I know that's a lot of questions, so grateful for whatever parts you have time to respond to.
Glad it could give you some insight. I actually have another vid coming next Friday, similar rust repair job. It needed the outrigger mounts reconstructed. The floor beyond the (inner rocker) which is from pinch weld to floor was good. But i have seen many that are soft or already developing holes. With interior removed obviously they can be cut out and repaired to last but really just depends how far you want to take it. Rust is unforgiving, you can fix everything you can see and the car can still continue to rust from deeper within unfortunately. But stay tuned for next Fridays vid, hopefully some better angles or redemption from how bad they can bounce back from
@@TheSubieSanctuary Thanks! Looking forward to the next video. How long is your wait list currently for this kind of work? Also, you mentioned the side panel splash guard thingies as trapping debris and accelerating rust. Do you recommend running without those then?
@@emmanuelteitelbaum definitely recommend not running the splash guards as seen on hawk sti’s and legacy gt’s. They do really cause the rust to fester under them. I mean, if they were removed early and had sprayed oil on the floor and had them put back, they’d be alright. We are probably about 6months out, are you in Ontario?
@@TheSubieSanctuary Thanks! I'm in Maryland (US) but I have family in Northeast Ohio and Michigan. Are there any obstacles for US citizens getting modified cars across the border? My STI is stage 2 with a few emissions deletes and is lowered about an inch... I think I am going to look around here to see if there are any places that can do it near me, but I would really prefer to have someone work on it who has worked on an STI before.
@@emmanuelteitelbaum no, there is no issue driving over the border but still a bit of a trek. Ya youd need to find a place that is familiar with unibody restoration
@@TheSubieSanctuary Sounds like undercoating shouldnt be sold if it makes rust worse. In the video you used regular rattle can paint. would you recommend just regular rustoleum over advertised "underbody" paint?
Is that bracket part of the jack or attached to the inner outer rock just curious ,I’m planning to get a quote to get both rockers and rear qtr fix I do have those parts but didn’t realize the inner outers were shot too
The bracket is attached to inner rocker and weld nuts inside. Easy to deal with, just remove bracket, make the inner piece, line up bracket and make the bolt holes. Then weld nuts in back of panel before actually welding to car.
Good potential they were cheesed over when the rocker “attempt” was done. Currently to this day, nothing had surfaced on the quarters but doesn’t mean that it wont one day. He does not winter drive this but I have the same suspicion as you
@@TheSubieSanctuary In the UK the inner then outer rear arches are usually the first to go and the sills are next. At that point they are broken and parted out or re-shelled so fair play to the owner for sticking with this and you guys for doing what looks like a top job on saving this car.
@@TheMoonigans ya our climate here no better then what you get in the UK. We do a lot of rust repairs. Rockers quarters, however I most agree with the re shell vs fix a rusty one. Its easier to preserve then repair
Hello do you think the front Toe board from the GD can be realistically fashioned to fit my GC8. I initially and still considering to make them my self out of sheet metal, but after the first attempt I got the appetite to see If I can just buy one. Unfortunately the one for the gc8 is discontinued, so I’m looking for alternatives. If you think that making it up my self is better, do you make it all out of one part, or is it best to split it in to several parts, making the shaping process a bit easier.
@@TheSubieSanctuary great, I will contact my local dealer again and ask for a GD one if it’s available. hopefully it’s not going to come from japan otherwise I think I will have to make it myself, as I’m unable to wait over a month.
@@dan2fast4you21 read a thread way back of someone using gd floor in gc. May still be some slight trimming here and there but im confident it will work overall
@@TheSubieSanctuary Unfortunately the GD ones will take 2 months to arrive. Do you have any suggestions on fabricating this part? I’m thinking of making it in 2-3 pieces but 19 gauge 0.040” is inevitably hard to bend in to complex shapes.
Yep nothing like wire wheeling on a dirty garage floor. Rolling around and covered in fresh rust. Nothing worse than tasting it lol im always wearing eye and mouth protection.
@TheSubieSanctuary Thanks! I have a jdm car that also needs rust treatment and was curious if sandblasting and undercoating the whole underbody would help it to be preserved for the next 10 years at least. Props to you for the excellent restoration, most people would just junk the car.
@TheSubieSanctuary Actually, I'm not the one who is going to do the job, but the people from this restoration garage mentioned that they're going to sandblast the undercarriage and then going to apply 3 protective layers.
Wild eh! This lived most of its life in Quebec. Which is very high road salt area. We are in Ontario and its not much better here. Only thing that prevents this kind of rust is oiling underbody before it starts to rust and washing car a couple times a week during winter. Salt sucks
@@jophillips2868 seen them turned it skeletons for off roading. You need the doors, a,b,c pillars, front and rear unibody up to the outer of cross members. Then something to hold your floor from falling out.
How can I get ahold of you? I assume your a business. I like what you do and I’m getting a Sonic yellow wrx wagon this week that needs some rust repair and I’d like a factory re paint.
Yes brother, we do this for a living. However we have a very long wait list for body/paint. You can email the.subie.sanctuary@gmail.com Or message on our Instagram @the_subie_sanctuary
Thank you for the info. It will be a bit anyway. I have to get a passport I live on the boarder of upper MI and WI then tow it 10 hours. I’d like to send pics and videos of the car and get a rough estimate and go from there. Maybe spring next year or what not
@@nateleet3379 sounds good dude! I used to have a spec r1 sedan (sonic yellow) They are pretty cool and pretty rare now. But that yellow faded like a bitach 😂
This one looks faded to but it’s practically stock 2 owner car that actually looks clean on the underside. Only a short 900mile round trip Friday to go get it. I sold my silver one to get but the floors were too far gone and someone bondo the crap out of the quarters. I didn’t want to open a can of worms with that
Thats not good 😬 hopefully not as bad as this one. The real issue was the old rust buried under hack work. If its just original rust your seeing then its kinda easier to assess
You guys are so underrated! Please don’t stop doing what you do.
Thank brother 🙏
Amazing work as always! These videos give me hope for my rusty subaru! Keep the videos coming please!
Thanks!
You guys do such awesome work. I wish you were closer, I'd bring my car in!
Glad to get a video with some commentary and step by step. Love the videos and how you guys are keeping these things on the road instead of parting everything out.
I will say I'm glad I don't live where they salt the roads!
Thanks for the video. I'm an amateur just finishing up similar repairs on my 02 wagon. Your videos are a great guide to the "right way" to do things. While my work would hardly be considered professional, I am also trying to do it the right way welding in new metal and aggressively attacking any rust I find. Seeing it done the wrong way as this car was makes me feel better about what I'm accomplishing. My car had that rubber undercoating on most of the underbody from the factory (as far as I know, I've had the car since 2006). Even the factory undercoating seems to encourage rust and there are definitely areas that will need to be wire wheeled and repainted eventually as well.
Love watching you guys saving one Subie after another. Best in class... I have an 05 STI and would love to bring it to you guys for some work (for the most part, my car is in decent shape). If only you guys were closer to the Qc border :( Keep up the great work.
Absolutely great work as always! Cant wait to bring my hawkeye up to you guys for rocker work and underbody love. Love your channel
Keep up the great work !
Thanks brother 🙏
Always enjoy watching your transformations.
YOU GUYS ARE DOING SUBIE GODS WORK KEEP IT UP SUBIE FAM!!👊💙💯
Samir....You're breaking the car!!!
Kudos for taking that on, I think most of us would have broken or reshelled it… wouldn’t have liked to have been in an accident in that car with so much rust and filler in it, even in the chassis rails… shame on the dealer that sold it!!
Man I am glad we do not have rust issues on cars here in oregon.
Im moving there 😂 for real though rust is so sad. Breaks my heart
Amazing work!!! ...i wish i can take my coupe to you guys 😥
Omg I have 05 saab 9-2x areo that is just as bad as this sti I got the rockers but never done this before so video is so helpful! Thanks
Are the lower pinch welds structural ? I have cut out the lower part of my 02 WRX rocker panels the upper pinch welds are intact! It is now as at 10:17
@@abhiT569 the inner or center section is structural. Any repair attempt will enhance it vs it being rotted away.
So dont be too hard on yourself with the repair
@@TheSubieSanctuary I am not planning on welding in new pieces as I plan to use it only for Rallycross events! Do you think I should reinforce it or they will be fine as it is at 10:17 like I mentioned. ty
@@abhiT569 anything really to at least fill the hole really then. You dont want mud and dust flying up through. Could always screw a patch on with some sealer on the edges
@@TheSubieSanctuary sure I can do that! But if it is important for the structural integrity of the car, I was thinking of using a DOM tube and bolt it in with U bolts or something and at a later point tie it in to the roll cage, but only if its necessary!! Material cost is not much but the amount of work is huge. If I fail the safety inspection because of this I will surely have to do it
@@abhiT569 the tube would actually be a great idea, if you get right size square bar it could essentially replace the whole rocker section and up the rigidity
What gauge sheet metal did you use? I have to do my rockers as well. And what are the dimensions of the outer and inner pieces you used?
The outer rockers were from subie savers, the other stuff i had to do was 20g
@@TheSubieSanctuary thanks man! The video is a big help, im being quoted 4k and these people didnt even put it on a lift
@@TheSubieSanctuarywhat were the dimensions of your inner piece?
“Garaged. Never seen snow.”
Awesome detailed video!
Where do you guys get your prefab Rockers from?
Subiesavers.com
Invest in a good quality, breathable car cover for winter storage. Cheap ones trap moisture under the car and can cause rust to develop like this while the car is in storage.
Yes true also a good dry storage helps
What were the dimensions of the piece you used for inner half?
If i recall, it was 3.5” wide, then we were able to bend a lip on each top and bottom to weld into inner rocker and lower pinch weld
Learned a lot from watching this video. Thanks for posting! I have similar issues and one shop was worried about working on my Hawkeye because in addition to the rockers, the rust looks like it is eating into the floors like on this vehicle. So they were saying the rust will just keep going. Were you guys concerned that the floors on this car would continue to rust? You said you didn't want to "poke a hole in them if you didn't have to" so then how do you know if they are strong enough to paint over? Also the mounts for the outrigger assembly looked kind of rusted out as well. Where do those attach to (I had thought it was the rocker panels) and would the body have been strong enough for you to replace these and the bushings if your client wanted you to do that? I know that's a lot of questions, so grateful for whatever parts you have time to respond to.
Glad it could give you some insight.
I actually have another vid coming next Friday, similar rust repair job. It needed the outrigger mounts reconstructed. The floor beyond the (inner rocker) which is from pinch weld to floor was good. But i have seen many that are soft or already developing holes. With interior removed obviously they can be cut out and repaired to last but really just depends how far you want to take it. Rust is unforgiving, you can fix everything you can see and the car can still continue to rust from deeper within unfortunately. But stay tuned for next Fridays vid, hopefully some better angles or redemption from how bad they can bounce back from
@@TheSubieSanctuary Thanks! Looking forward to the next video. How long is your wait list currently for this kind of work? Also, you mentioned the side panel splash guard thingies as trapping debris and accelerating rust. Do you recommend running without those then?
@@emmanuelteitelbaum definitely recommend not running the splash guards as seen on hawk sti’s and legacy gt’s. They do really cause the rust to fester under them.
I mean, if they were removed early and had sprayed oil on the floor and had them put back, they’d be alright.
We are probably about 6months out, are you in Ontario?
@@TheSubieSanctuary Thanks! I'm in Maryland (US) but I have family in Northeast Ohio and Michigan. Are there any obstacles for US citizens getting modified cars across the border? My STI is stage 2 with a few emissions deletes and is lowered about an inch... I think I am going to look around here to see if there are any places that can do it near me, but I would really prefer to have someone work on it who has worked on an STI before.
@@emmanuelteitelbaum no, there is no issue driving over the border but still a bit of a trek. Ya youd need to find a place that is familiar with unibody restoration
Great video! Love seeing you save these cars. Where in Ontario are you located?
Cavity wax and Cosmoline spray?
Cavity wax! Im unfamiliar with cosmoline spray
@@TheSubieSanctuary Sounds like undercoating shouldnt be sold if it makes rust worse. In the video you used regular rattle can paint. would you recommend just regular rustoleum over advertised "underbody" paint?
@@Christosan88 rustoleum is probably better then most under body paint as it encapsulates at least
Some say hes still there to this day digging the cills out 😂
You aint lying brother 😬
i’m looking to do this to my subie around how much did it cost for materials :)
About $500
BRO!!!! you guys are artists!! Amazing job!!!! do you take new jobs? or you guys booked up?
Is that bracket part of the jack or attached to the inner outer rock just curious
,I’m planning to get a quote to get both rockers and rear qtr fix I do have those parts but didn’t realize the inner outers were shot too
The bracket is attached to inner rocker and weld nuts inside. Easy to deal with, just remove bracket, make the inner piece, line up bracket and make the bolt holes. Then weld nuts in back of panel before actually welding to car.
Thank you I’m was kinda like oh crap when I saw it my self but thanks again for the information relief
Where are you guys located in Canada? I'm in central wisconsin. My 05 is just as bad. Would love to have the work done by you guys if possible.
We are in Primrose, Ontario
this car is toast mate its completely gone only place to go is the junkyard
Yes but also no. Whats a floor and rockers? We’ve replaced unibody’s under these 😳
Surely the rear arches must have been toast with the sills this bad?
Good potential they were cheesed over when the rocker “attempt” was done.
Currently to this day, nothing had surfaced on the quarters but doesn’t mean that it wont one day. He does not winter drive this but I have the same suspicion as you
@@TheSubieSanctuary In the UK the inner then outer rear arches are usually the first to go and the sills are next. At that point they are broken and parted out or re-shelled so fair play to the owner for sticking with this and you guys for doing what looks like a top job on saving this car.
@@TheMoonigans ya our climate here no better then what you get in the UK. We do a lot of rust repairs. Rockers quarters, however I most agree with the re shell vs fix a rusty one. Its easier to preserve then repair
Love this! You guys do such a great job. Super pros. #punintended
Hello do you think the front Toe board from the GD can be realistically fashioned to fit my GC8. I initially and still considering to make them my self out of sheet metal, but after the first attempt I got the appetite to see If I can just buy one. Unfortunately the one for the gc8 is discontinued, so I’m looking for alternatives. If you think that making it up my self is better, do you make it all out of one part, or is it best to split it in to several parts, making the shaping process a bit easier.
GD will work!
@@TheSubieSanctuary
great, I will contact my local dealer again and ask for a GD one if it’s available. hopefully it’s not going to come from japan otherwise I think I will have to make it myself, as I’m unable to wait over a month.
@@dan2fast4you21 read a thread way back of someone using gd floor in gc. May still be some slight trimming here and there but im confident it will work overall
@@TheSubieSanctuary Will doo
@@TheSubieSanctuary
Unfortunately the GD ones will take 2 months to arrive. Do you have any suggestions on fabricating this part? I’m thinking of making it in 2-3 pieces but 19 gauge 0.040” is inevitably hard to bend in to complex shapes.
Yep nothing like wire wheeling on a dirty garage floor. Rolling around and covered in fresh rust. Nothing worse than tasting it lol im always wearing eye and mouth protection.
So was this car sandblasted and undercoated, because the whole undercarriage looks painted?
Its epoxy primer over bare metal then black fluid film (wax) 👌
@TheSubieSanctuary Thanks! I have a jdm car that also needs rust treatment and was curious if sandblasting and undercoating the whole underbody would help it to be preserved for the next 10 years at least. Props to you for the excellent restoration, most people would just junk the car.
@@JohnDoe-m8d if sand blasting under side you must use a good 2k epoxy primer on the bare metal.
@TheSubieSanctuary Actually, I'm not the one who is going to do the job, but the people from this restoration garage mentioned that they're going to sandblast the undercarriage and then going to apply 3 protective layers.
@@JohnDoe-m8d ah nice, probably a couple coats of epoxy then raptor liner is really nice for longevity
hey man i have a gd wrx with very messed up rockers as well, how much would this kind of job cost?
Hey buddy! If you needed inner and out rockers done like this car. With parts, labour and paint your at around $4k Canadian
@@TheSubieSanctuary thanks, thats about what i thought. thanks for responding bro
Did this car came out of the salt ocean or what? I never seen a hawk a rusted like this
Wild eh! This lived most of its life in Quebec. Which is very high road salt area. We are in Ontario and its not much better here. Only thing that prevents this kind of rust is oiling underbody before it starts to rust and washing car a couple times a week during winter. Salt sucks
@@TheSubieSanctuary yes salt is stupid! I have a gc 1999. My rockers hat a few holes not that bad. But i have never seen the floor rusted like this 😅😅
@@Dehqo id say some of this was compounded by somebody trying to just bondo over the rust at some point. Super sketchy
@@TheSubieSanctuary definitely not the way ! 🤣
What gauge of metal do you guys use for these repairs?
22g for body
I’m just curious how much a job like this one would cost?
Couple variables in play with stuff like this but can be 3-4k (Can) parts/labour
What is actually the frame of that Subaru?
Unibody brother, a collective of sheet metal welded together. There is some obvious frame sections out front, middle and rear.
@@TheSubieSanctuary how much of the unibody can you remove and rebuild without compromising the structure?
@@jophillips2868 seen them turned it skeletons for off roading.
You need the doors, a,b,c pillars, front and rear unibody up to the outer of cross members. Then something to hold your floor from falling out.
How can I get ahold of you? I assume your a business. I like what you do and I’m getting a Sonic yellow wrx wagon this week that needs some rust repair and I’d like a factory re paint.
Yes brother, we do this for a living. However we have a very long wait list for body/paint.
You can email the.subie.sanctuary@gmail.com
Or message on our Instagram @the_subie_sanctuary
Thank you for the info. It will be a bit anyway. I have to get a passport I live on the boarder of upper MI and WI then tow it 10 hours. I’d like to send pics and videos of the car and get a rough estimate and go from there. Maybe spring next year or what not
@@nateleet3379 sounds good dude! I used to have a spec r1 sedan (sonic yellow) They are pretty cool and pretty rare now. But that yellow faded like a bitach 😂
This one looks faded to but it’s practically stock 2 owner car that actually looks clean on the underside. Only a short 900mile round trip Friday to go get it. I sold my silver one to get but the floors were too far gone and someone bondo the crap out of the quarters. I didn’t want to open a can of worms with that
How much does a job like this cost?
Typically around 4k (can)
I dare someone to take a shot every time that the word "urethane" is mentioned
Can I ask what it cost for this job?
Can range from $3000-$4000ca depending on severity and request. With doors left on it’s obviously cheaper then doors off and removing whole panel
@@TheSubieSanctuary are you guys scheduling? Very similar job for my 99 GM6. Good youtube content for you guys.
@@ThomasP187 would love to, most people on the list end up having to wait a year or more 😬 best we can do is add to the list
Bro, my GC is 22 year's old, it barely has a rust bubble or any bodywork... Damn...that's hard
My gc’s 28 and 27 years old. Also no rust or previous body work. Some mans dont take care of their cars 😭
i am one of the guys that will be doing it on my back -____-
How much did this cost 😭
@@ek9607 ball park around $4k
Great work again. Hope you guys are up to date on your tetanus shots haha.
this is stressing me out because my subaru is looking bad like this one..
Thats not good 😬 hopefully not as bad as this one. The real issue was the old rust buried under hack work. If its just original rust your seeing then its kinda easier to assess
2:57 l0l