"The top is there -- beautiful -- don't worry." Wouldn't you like to hear Pavarotti tell you that?!! But great advice about holding back. Makes the contrast to the high note much richer.
Recalling a Perlman class in Moscow. First thing he told an aspiring musician was that she was holding her violin wrong. Showed her a new position and told her to play. Good luck with that.
Not as scary as you might think. I had the fortune of singing for a famous singer once who was such a good teacher and was so kind that I forgot to be scared and simply worked on the music. For moment we were just two artists in search of a common goal. Its amazing how human and approachable the folks at the top of the classical world can be.
Supposedly, Lou Holtz, former football coach at Notre Dame and Arkansas came over to watch his new freshman kicker at practice. The kid proceeded to shank several kicks off of the uprights. "Coach, it makes me nervous when you watch me" said the kicker. Holtz replied "Well, son. I hate to tell you this but I plan on being at every game this season so you need to get used to it."
@@65NART actually he was one of the best opera singer in terms of actor skills. His Duke of Mantua for example, will be forever the highest standard in Rigoletto.
The perfect voice teacher is the one who produces such wonderful sounds himself: none other than the wonderful Luciano Pavarotti. This soprano is really talented herself.
Not at all true. The greatest singers are notoriously poor teachers of technique. Coaching, yes, but what makes them extraordinary singers is something granted by God/Nature, and they hardly ever understand it themselves, much less communicate it to students.
I was taught Bel Canto and my teacher said " imagine the consonants like pegs on a clothes line. Sing through the consonants but always maintain the legato line". Also, if you are coming to the part that is important and forte, sing mezzo piano, or mezzo forte, at most, beforehand to highlight it; and let the music breath, using a little rubato which gives the shape to the legato line. It is what the maestro is saying and what I was taught.
What a wonderful time we have lived in to be able to see and hear something completely magical like this, I was melting as she sang that final try, what a beautiful woman and a voice like an angel
Considering the circumstances, this young lady coped magnificently. This situation is far more foreboding than any live performance. Any critics on here should get up and do it, or simply shut up!!
Pavarotti really knows his art and to top it off he is compassionate If it’s true he couldn’t read music it’s more important and true that he lives and understands the music as an example a person can speak a language beautifully but not be able to write it Only thing that’s important is conveying to the listener the message
John Blasiak makes it even the more impressive, remember vangelis? He is had the same issue l, he developed an own system only he can use and “read” to make his music. His net worth is 245million, he makes about 27k a day.. all that without reading music really
At 6:20 part of what I think the Maestro is saying is that you sing on the vowel. Poco piu largo - a little longer - meaning that you have to get to the vowel (still respecting and relishing the consonants) because that is the part you sustain on. This is part of the basis of legato singing and bel canto. He gave very good masterclasses and good instruction. I miss him. :)
It’s a common thing for ESL. Spanish speakers do it as well. It’s good conversational practice actually. If you don’t know a word in English, substitute your native word and keep going. It’s likely the native English speaker will understand you from the context of the entire sentence
The singer Cristina is italian. He's keeping most of it in english for the audience, but for the benefit of the singer he's saying in italian some words that are untranslatable in english and immediately clear to her in italian
splendida Master class di Luciano Pavarotti... suggerimenti sottili, sulla esecuzione ::: scappata.... di questo giovane soprano. che alla fine apprende ed esegue con morbidezza e senza correre questo dolcissimo brano . bravissimo Luciano
Wow. Such excellent instruction. I do not understand the technicalities of this art, but as an audience/listener, I understand which parts of the piece I hold my breath to hear. I love how he instructed her to "buttare" the phrase leading up to the first anticipation point. One of my favourite pieces all time, doesn't hurt that my name is in the title ;)
I used to watch this show on TV back when PBS was worth watching. Now it's just the dullest documentaries, financial advisors, and lectures on the medicinal benefits of enemas.
It's a pretty voice, not very distinctive, but she looks like she just walked off the set of "Laverne and Shirley"! Pavarotti is a great teacher though!
All Pavarotti was trying to teach her was legato-a simple concept, the bedrock of good opera singing, but nonetheless difficult to achieve. Either she wasn't getting it or was so caught up in her sound she refused to get it. At one point, she thought she could do what Pavarotti was asking for by extending note values. A shame, since she has such a beautiful voice.
Beautiful Beautifil voice! Such a sweet sound but she doesn't use her chest voice though! Only head sound, if coordinatied chest and head voice she would hit the top! Very musical lady
There's A LOT of promise there, but I'm hearing a shouty sound. It's a good piece for her and with further coaching, she'll be a hit! I agree with everything Pavorotti was trying to accomplish with her.
Hai ragione. Magda canta "CHI il bel sogno di Doretta potè indovinar..." Il Maestro Pavarotti si sbaglia. In inglese, "WHO can guess Doretta's beautiful dream..." Saluti da Firenze.
I sense way too much resonance coming out of the mouth. It's a more broadway "legit" placement, and therefore, it's producing a shrill and harsh tone. It might be good for a Disney movie musical. For this aria and Puccini, I sense she needs to place the voice "up and over", higher and further back - what i mean is, allow it to resonate in the pharyngeal resonating cavity - not sure if i'm saying it right but i know what i mean. i loved what Pav said about simpler more legato phrasing and binding the consonants to each other. seems so easy but takes real skill. When he talked about using the diaphragm, i wish we had ex-ray vision into his gut. I guess one knows it when they feel the connection finally, they say it is like a leaning, appoggio, support. it's a struggle for me often to maintain connection to my body. He didn't seem too pleased with her lack of restraint and tenderness on the high notes. She seemed to misunderstand about not having to worry about them, feeling proud of herself. He reiterated 'Less, like nothing..."throw them away..."' She approached them with all guns blazing, bruising his tender heart. I think it's the wrong aria. If she has super high notes, she'd make a good queen of the night as it's not a pretty voice, but penetrating and irritating. In the end, i think he probably sensed that was all he could do with her in the time given. Seems to me to be the wrong aria to showcase her specific comfort zone. Not sure if what i'm saying is correct or not, but it's my sense of the situation. I'd love feedback.
He's saying "butta" "throw it out". don't pay too much attention to this part, just get it out like no big deal ... that way you can surprise the listener with the next part which is the high point of the piece - to infuse as much emotion for the listener as possible. What a delicate piece of guidance.
She looks like she is singing in a musical instead of an opera. She does not have her soul into. There is no bitter sweet remembrance to her interpretation,
@@raymondgood6555me too, totally. I am no classical singer, but I took classical lessons as integration when I studied jazz singing at the Royal Conservatoire in the Netherlands. Well, I was able to get a much better dynamic and sound by only watching all these short videos over and over, by hearing pavarotti talking about legato, messa di voce, covering, passaggio, expression, than in 6 months of classes (and my teacher was not a rookie, rest assured). This man knew what he was doing and knew how to express it to others, very clearly. God knows what he could have done of a promising student.
Just to point out that the title is "IL" bel sogno di Doretta and not "CHI". The soprano sings in a way that seems she's saying "Chi" but even Pavarotti and the pianist, later on, say "IL". By the way, I love these Masterclasses where you see how much technique and interpretation is involved when singing the Opera.
+VoiceVirtuoso If he's a good instructor, then it's because he's had good fortune to have had good teachers himself. Arrigo Pola was his singing teacher.
Do you really think this is what a hot mess sounds like, (especially in the face of a student)? Oh, come on!! You cannot deny that listening to her made you feel utterly relaxed, that you did not sense your throat straining (which would indicate that hers was) even for a single moment! Airiness and normality in the sound is perhaps the most pivotal aspect of singing. Unfortunately, though, very frequently it is mistakenly taken for granted even by the most famous singers...
I know nothing about the technicalities, but it is beautiful to watch a Maestro at work.
Thank you. This is what RUclips is about. 🙏
"The top is there -- beautiful -- don't worry." Wouldn't you like to hear Pavarotti tell you that?!! But great advice about holding back. Makes the contrast to the high note much richer.
could you imagine how scared these performers must be? it's like if you had to recite your poetry for shakespeare
Recalling a Perlman class in Moscow. First thing he told an aspiring musician was that she was holding her violin wrong. Showed her a new position and told her to play. Good luck with that.
Not as scary as you might think. I had the fortune of singing for a famous singer once who was such a good teacher and was so kind that I forgot to be scared and simply worked on the music. For moment we were just two artists in search of a common goal. Its amazing how human and approachable the folks at the top of the classical world can be.
mwaddisfilms Not, for Vergil!
I've always thought of Shakespeare as a kind, laughing and benevolent country guy with enough self-irony so to not be so rigorous towards others.
Supposedly, Lou Holtz, former football coach at Notre Dame and Arkansas came over to watch his new freshman kicker at practice. The kid proceeded to shank several kicks off of the uprights. "Coach, it makes me nervous when you watch me" said the kicker. Holtz replied "Well, son. I hate to tell you this but I plan on being at every game this season so you need to get used to it."
Big Luciano nailing a soprano part in falsetto, omg he could do anything with his incredible voice and actor skills.
Actor skills? Beautiful Opera singer yes. Actor? No.
@@65NART actually he was one of the best opera singer in terms of actor skills. His Duke of Mantua for example, will be forever the highest standard in Rigoletto.
@@65NART and honestly, where did you saw him live? Opera, theatre and date please: let me check critic reviews of what you saw - if any.
when did he use falsetto?
@@pugh.joseph 3:57 - 4:07 falsetto imitating soprano, and then humming same again as tenore
The perfect voice teacher is the one who produces such wonderful sounds himself: none other than the wonderful Luciano Pavarotti. This soprano is really talented herself.
Not at all true. The greatest singers are notoriously poor teachers of technique. Coaching, yes, but what makes them extraordinary singers is something granted by God/Nature, and they hardly ever understand it themselves, much less communicate it to students.
I was taught Bel Canto and my teacher said " imagine the consonants like pegs on a clothes line. Sing through the consonants but always maintain the legato line". Also, if you are coming to the part that is important and forte, sing mezzo piano, or mezzo forte, at most, beforehand to highlight it; and let the music breath, using a little rubato which gives the shape to the legato line. It is what the maestro is saying and what I was taught.
Yep. Not many people care about the consonants, as long as you've got your vowels right :-)
@@featherelfstrom8405 If you want to understand the lyrics in any language other than Italian, the consonants are important.
What a master storyteller he was! Watching him teach others now I know why everyone I watch him I’m so mesmerized…
03:56 his voice is just😍😍 I can't, I wish there was a complete version sung by him
What a wonderful time we have lived in to be able to see and hear something completely magical like this, I was melting as she sang that final try, what a beautiful woman and a voice like an angel
Considering the circumstances, this young lady coped magnificently. This situation is far more foreboding than any live performance. Any critics on here should get up and do it, or simply shut up!!
He is just so wonderful, amazing and brilliant. I just love him. ❤️
Very insightful and useful comments from Maestro Pavarotti. The difference between competence and truly great singing.
Wow her top notes were incredible. So clear and full of color.
How beautiful and gracious this woman and Luciano
...just missing him
Mother of god, he is an epic real magister vocal coach.
That was Fabulous. Powerful. Emotional.
Man, he is exactly right on---she gets better each time. A LOT better.
Pavarotti really knows his art and to top it off he is compassionate If it’s true he couldn’t read music it’s more important and true that he lives and understands the music as an example a person can speak a language beautifully but not be able to write it
Only thing that’s important is conveying to the listener the message
John Blasiak makes it even the more impressive, remember vangelis? He is had the same issue l, he developed an own system only he can use and “read” to make his music. His net worth is 245million, he makes about 27k a day.. all that without reading music really
beautiful singer beautiful man
rip
Divine voice. Can really float the tone.
At 6:20 part of what I think the Maestro is saying is that you sing on the vowel. Poco piu largo - a little longer - meaning that you have to get to the vowel (still respecting and relishing the consonants) because that is the part you sustain on. This is part of the basis of legato singing and bel canto. He gave very good masterclasses and good instruction. I miss him. :)
Actually, I think he just wanted to say to keep the first vowel a bit longer
I love how he throws in some Italian here and there LOL
It’s a common thing for ESL. Spanish speakers do it as well. It’s good conversational practice actually. If you don’t know a word in English, substitute your native word and keep going. It’s likely the native English speaker will understand you from the context of the entire sentence
The singer Cristina is italian. He's keeping most of it in english for the audience, but for the benefit of the singer he's saying in italian some words that are untranslatable in english and immediately clear to her in italian
@@annac6778 she's not Italian. She doesn't look nor sound Italian, plus her name is Christine Radman, not an Italian name.
Maestro Amazing!!
Every sound he utters is beautiful and from the 💕🇮🇹❤️😘🕊Heart.
It is true what his mother said to him... something in my chest moves everytime I hear him sing😍😍
Oh God... how I miss him! :(
Indeed what we lost but we are blessed to have video and audio of him
Same
Total genius. I played with maestro in the 90ties. Being impressed is saying poca cosa. He is such a music "beast". He knows exactly what to do
Вот она,художественная правка Паваротти.Детали,которые ускользнули от заслуженной певицы и,возможно,её педагога.Великолепный голос,нечего сказать.
Her Music is so beautiful
splendida Master class di Luciano Pavarotti... suggerimenti sottili, sulla esecuzione ::: scappata.... di questo giovane soprano. che alla fine apprende ed esegue con morbidezza e senza correre questo dolcissimo brano . bravissimo Luciano
la fissazione della big voice porta a strillare senza senso,ascoltate la Montsy
Wow. Such excellent instruction. I do not understand the technicalities of this art, but as an audience/listener, I understand which parts of the piece I hold my breath to hear. I love how he instructed her to "buttare" the phrase leading up to the first anticipation point. One of my favourite pieces all time, doesn't hurt that my name is in the title ;)
lol
exactly beautiful doretta
In a hundred years they will say the name Pavarotti before Caruso.
9:12 dat face, though
"Buttiamola" = let's just throw it out without any thinking
I used to watch this show on TV back when PBS was worth watching. Now it's just the dullest documentaries, financial advisors, and lectures on the medicinal benefits of enemas.
johnclawed , I hear ya.
😂
AHH fabulous. Working on this aria now and loved his advice!!
Pavarotti-so impressive!
I think i need that 8:10 voice be my ringtone.. How could his voice sounds mesmerizing even when he make some chicken sound... Damn..
absolutely beautiful top.
Thanks for posting!
i liked this very much
Magnifique
Que maravilhosos!!!!
It's a pretty voice, not very distinctive, but she looks like she just walked off the set of "Laverne and Shirley"! Pavarotti is a great teacher though!
Bravo Madame.
All Pavarotti was trying to teach her was legato-a simple concept, the bedrock of good opera singing, but nonetheless difficult to achieve. Either she wasn't getting it or was so caught up in her sound she refused to get it. At one point, she thought she could do what Pavarotti was asking for by extending note values. A shame, since she has such a beautiful voice.
John Wustman at the piano!
Quanta pressão psicológica e emocional.... cantar na presença do eterno Maestro é para poucos.
Beautiful Beautifil voice! Such a sweet sound but she doesn't use her chest voice though! Only head sound, if coordinatied chest and head voice she would hit the top!
Very musical lady
There's A LOT of promise there, but I'm hearing a shouty sound. It's a good piece for her and with further coaching, she'll be a hit! I agree with everything Pavorotti was trying to accomplish with her.
the audience looks so bored. I would have been taking notes lol
Hai ragione. Magda canta "CHI il bel sogno di Doretta potè indovinar..." Il Maestro Pavarotti si sbaglia. In inglese, "WHO can guess Doretta's beautiful dream..." Saluti da Firenze.
Callas also gave Masterclasses. I'm sure how the students managed to sing a note!
Good enough
❤❤
7:47 here ...always reminds me of spoken word piece I wrote, with 747 inbedded in prose ...most popular piece/video on RUclips, long ago
i really like her voice. how come there's no other video of her ?
nick c: So many singers, so little interest in classical music and opera today.
What’s her name?
@@user-go6iq6kg9yChristine radman
It's definitely Chi'il bel sogno...with a Chi. They're both incorrect, the soprano is correct.
Wish year was this
minuto 9.10 impresionante 😢😊😍
Tiger Leis davvero
I sense way too much resonance coming out of the mouth. It's a more broadway "legit" placement, and therefore, it's producing a shrill and harsh tone. It might be good for a Disney movie musical. For this aria and Puccini, I sense she needs to place the voice "up and over", higher and further back - what i mean is, allow it to resonate in the pharyngeal resonating cavity - not sure if i'm saying it right but i know what i mean. i loved what Pav said about simpler more legato phrasing and binding the consonants to each other. seems so easy but takes real skill. When he talked about using the diaphragm, i wish we had ex-ray vision into his gut. I guess one knows it when they feel the connection finally, they say it is like a leaning, appoggio, support. it's a struggle for me often to maintain connection to my body. He didn't seem too pleased with her lack of restraint and tenderness on the high notes. She seemed to misunderstand about not having to worry about them, feeling proud of herself. He reiterated 'Less, like nothing..."throw them away..."' She approached them with all guns blazing, bruising his tender heart. I think it's the wrong aria. If she has super high notes, she'd make a good queen of the night as it's not a pretty voice, but penetrating and irritating. In the end, i think he probably sensed that was all he could do with her in the time given. Seems to me to be the wrong aria to showcase her specific comfort zone. Not sure if what i'm saying is correct or not, but it's my sense of the situation. I'd love feedback.
glad you said this all because it voiced my thoughts exactly
I agree. She's too bombastic. Okay, we get it, you can hit the notes when you're loud. But can you still do it quietly and introspectively?
This aria should be sung in this way there's no need to over dramatize, it is a lyric thing....
Was that Francis Ford Coppola in the audience? I don't know.
you most be very good to stand and sing next to pavarotti
Ella escogió el Aria equivocada.
I thought the title was Chi il bel sognno di Doretta.......
It is! Canzone di Doretta is another name it's known as. You are correct, though :)
A woman like that and i would do the dishes every day...
Yes indeed and I would do the vacuuming also
Search this song from Monserrat caballe soprano
I love Monserrat for her technical ability, but Renee Fleming (or any other 'darker' soprano) sounds better, to me.
Her voice is so highhhhhh... She should be singing a more soubrette or coloratura repertoire... not heavy repertoire... :)
Right
what is her name ?
Everybody has obviously forgotten LOL
Who is she?
Si sembra a Sara Scudieri. ❤️❤️❤️
Absolutely correct, but if you mean that it's chi phonetically then you're incorrect. It is rather a phonetical Ki.
What is the expression Pavarotti say at 8:00- "Buttiamo ???"
+Joe Lupariello Buttiamo la fraseli
He's saying "butta" "throw it out". don't pay too much attention to this part, just get it out like no big deal ... that way you can surprise the listener with the next part which is the high point of the piece - to infuse as much emotion for the listener as possible. What a delicate piece of guidance.
Buttiamola lì. It translates as ‘Throw it out there’ ( without thinking )
She looks like she is singing in a musical instead of an opera. She does not have her soul into. There is no bitter sweet remembrance to her interpretation,
Only thumb up for Maestro Pavarotti!That’s enough.
She sings with a lot of tongue root tension, I guess that's one of the dangers in opera when you're told to lower the larynx all the time.
I think Pavarotti sung it better as a tenor.
In the context of the opera, Ruggiero sings this melody first followed by the Soprano
Мелко, задрано, передний звук. Не кругло.
Chi il bel sogno. Not "il bel sogno". She's correct, but he's not a soprano so we'll forgive him.
This is so funny. He just waves a pencil around. Pavarotti was no teacher (it is generally acknowledged) but he was some singer!!!
I completely disagree with your evaluation of Pavarotti’s teaching ability!!!!!
@@raymondgood6555me too, totally. I am no classical singer, but I took classical lessons as integration when I studied jazz singing at the Royal Conservatoire in the Netherlands. Well, I was able to get a much better dynamic and sound by only watching all these short videos over and over, by hearing pavarotti talking about legato, messa di voce, covering, passaggio, expression, than in 6 months of classes (and my teacher was not a rookie, rest assured). This man knew what he was doing and knew how to express it to others, very clearly. God knows what he could have done of a promising student.
Just to point out that the title is "IL" bel sogno di Doretta and not "CHI". The soprano sings in a way that seems she's saying "Chi" but even Pavarotti and the pianist, later on, say "IL". By the way, I love these Masterclasses where you see how much technique and interpretation is involved when singing the Opera.
Completely wrong aria for her. What the heck?
she sounded a hot mess, but he's a good instructor.
+VoiceVirtuoso If he's a good instructor, then it's because he's had good fortune to have had good teachers himself. Arrigo Pola was his singing teacher.
Do you really think this is what a hot mess sounds like, (especially in the face of a student)? Oh, come on!! You cannot deny that listening to her made you feel utterly relaxed, that you did not sense your throat straining (which would indicate that hers was) even for a single moment! Airiness and normality in the sound is perhaps the most pivotal aspect of singing. Unfortunately, though, very frequently it is mistakenly taken for granted even by the most famous singers...
@@aykcroid not only Arrigo Pola. He and Freni both also studied with Ettore Campogalliani,
A bit annoying sound lucking chest
A lovely voice but with absolutely no musicianship...how does that happen? Pavarotti tried but to no avail.
She is too aggressive
what a pain in the A%$ he is, I would go nuts! But if you want to make it in that thin space I guess you have to go to the slightest details.
What do you mean a pain in the a%s? He was giving really good advice, only to help her.
Everything God made ...frauds want to destroy ...this is why Reckoning is going to be, a mess ...putting it mildly 🐑