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Happens
it’s okay mistakes always happened
U every realize Carmey look like the og Willy Wonka
When I saw it, I was like.. yup, this episode has that effect on people.
Pls react to “From”
Carmy perpetually disassociating due to family trauma/chaos is too real
Went from I understand this character to.... OH I understand this character yikes
@@teleytubby it's like when my friend spent some time with my sisters and she was like i understand u now
@@littleglissant yeah same similar thing happened to me too, I hope things are better now
@@teleytubby u too ❤
@@littleglissant thanks 💞, it's an ongoing process lol
The job Richie asks for from Uncle Jimmy in this episode was what he and Jimmy were arguing about back in the birthday party catering episode. Jimmy ended up putting him in charge of one of his properties and Jimmy thought Richie ignored the tenants call for help when the tenant actually called Mikey.
Oh shit?? That means richie could be doing so much better right now if not for the tenants mistake??
@@carlitos366 Just another bit of damage done by Mikey's suicide.
I never caught that, I always assumed he didn't give him a job and that's why they soured on each other. Damn that sucks for Richie, his life really did go to shit because of freak chance.
Mikey was still alive when the tenant called for help, but she thought she was calling Rick. This was five years ago, or so and Mikey only died this year@@MorallyDubiousFrog
@@karenschumacher6434 You’re right. Then it’s just damage caused as a result of Mikey’s spiral into addiction and depression.
"Cousin, you're scaring the normals" lmao great line from Ritchie lol
In this reaction they got scared so easily that I think "they wouldn't last a day in a Latino family" , so this frase I can totally relate hahaha
@SidPhoenix2211 dune part 2 better than 2049?
The generational trauma that the kids got from their mom, especially Carmy, is what's at the heart of this season. We finally have an idea why Carmy is stressed out and anxious and has nightmares, why Michael offed himself, why Sugar doesn't have a relationship with her mom.
Also possibly why Nat married Pete. And that Sugar is not a cute child nickname but insult for a mistake she made and is constantly reminded of by her family.
"why Sugar doesn't have a relationship with her mom." i took this as the mom killing hersself at the end? was that not happening?
@@silverstone9836 no the mom is still alive, she is the last episode of season 2. This is just one of many manic things Donna has done
@@BAD46660 I don't see anyone talking about this! it's so sick how the mom twists such a nefarious nickname into a silly haha joke
The Punisher, Spider-Ham, and Atom Eve all in the same episode. That’s gold.
And now The Thing lol
“Oh, Britta’s in this?”
He was akready Micro in Punisher@@JohnnyRetro64
And Micro
and saul goodman
Everyone: "Donna, do you need some help?"
Donna: "GET THE FUCK OUT!"
Also Donna: "Nobody helps me!"
Is this a universal mom thing? I swear they love to get mad at you for helping because you're not doing it exactly right, then they just say "I'll do it myself" and then they complain that you didn't help them.
@@Jdubayou I don't think most people are this bad. My mom pushes me out of the way in the kitchen because she thinks I'm not doing it right, but she doesn't call me an asshole and throw spoons at me.
Its part of her and Michaels sickness sadly. Not seeing the support you have through the forest of negative thoughts.
that’s toxic grandmothers & mothers right there
Bipolar disorder and narcissistic personality disorder in the same person
Pete's a dork but he's a genuinely good dude who doesn't yell and spew venom like these assholes. That's why everyone hates him.
He's not like them. He's undamaged. And they can't relate. And he can't relate.
During Mikey and Lee's fight you can see Lee's not really getting to Mikey until he says "you're nothing", Mikey can't even respond. It speaks to the self-loathing that haunts many addicts, the constant feeling that you could and should be better, but can't do it. Lee put into words something Mikey already felt about himself.
And the way Mike starting to insult Uncle Lee was more towards himself cause the insults fitted more towards his own character. He was using his uncle as a degrading mirror towards himself in the way people like to insult others for their toxic traits they themselves got
I know that dinner table scene is the main stand out for this episode, but man... John Bernthal's performance in the closet scene just sticks with me. Specifically after Carmy leaves the room and he's just stuck to deal with his own thoughts for more than three seconds. No wonder he did what he did, being the only one left to deal with his mother and drowning in debt. This episode is perfect.
It made me realize that Carmy isn't a reliable narrator. Carmy says he didn't know Mikey was on drugs, but after this episode he was being blind to a lot of things.
I was discussing it with a friend and that one scene in the closet is crucial because it's literally the only time we see Mikey alone.
Every other scene or memory with him prior to this builds Mikey up to being this larger-than-life person, but for a few seconds we get to see some of what Mikey was really struggling with. It's absolutely heartbreaking watching this episode knowing what happens to Mikey later, even if it really wasn't anyone's fault as to what happened.
The best thing to take away from this is to check in with the people closest to you, even if they appear to have everything together. You just never know.
@@ShelbyBaby27how so? He didn’t visit often. Mickey didn’t answer his calls and wouldn’t let him work at the beef. How he’s acting here is clearly the norm for him and what Carmy has grown up with outside of what we see in the pantry.
Sheera was spot on about Mikey needing the cousin more than Carmy. Too bad he hid his pain from everyone while Carmy wore it in his sleeve
She was trying to help Carmy find a way out before the family sucked him back into the undertow of their dysfunction.
the mom is a perfect portrayal of an alcoholic narcissistic parent dynamic. this episode is so well done.
Too accurate. Right down to Carmy’s response to emotional distress and the pot of red sauce.
I saw Jamie Lee Curtis in an interview that as soon as she saw the first episode of season one she would play the mom if the character was cast. She was not the first or even 4th asked but she did get the role. Excellent performance and I hope she gets the 2023 Best Guest Emmy.
Nah, I don't think the mom is narcissistic, she's just really unwell
@@tacitus5665 she is, notice how she won’t let anyone help but then complains about having to do everything herself. that’s classic narcissism.
@@tacitus5665 considering she’s a carbon copy of my mom, I feel pretty confident with people saying she’s showing showing some big signs of narcissism. This is what it looks like a lot of the time. Especially during manic episodes. BD and BPD look very similar during mania, and as fun bonus you can totally have BPD and NPD. My stepmoms BD episodes were very similar, but there were big differences when not experiencing mania. For both, the episode often ended with police being called. Both, I would say, are unwell.
This episode was pure chaos. And it was also a masterclass of acting. Bernthal, Odenkirk, Platt, Jamie Lee Curtis, Ebon Moss-Bachrach, the list goes on. Also surprised to see Sarah Paulson and John Mulaney in there.
This was probably one of my favorite episodes of the series... aside from the next one, of course.
HOLY SHIT THATS JAMIE LEE CURTIS?!? I knew I knew her from somewhere but that is actually insanity. She looks like a completely different person and it looks 100% natural
@@jarretirish7281 Ikr, I didn't know it was her until the end credits, had me completely shocked.
It took y’all way too long to recognize Jamie Lee Curtis😂
We usually see her with short hair to be fair lol
I did too
@@ScenicNsanitynah lol y’all trippin i know that face straight off
Agreed hahaa. I actually noticed her from a photo featured in the very first episode, when Richie was lookin at old family photos. I was like wait, is she gonna be in here this season! 😯
I think when it comes to Michael not telling Carmy, it was mostly shame as opposed to him wanting to protect Carmy. Shame over his drug abuse and failures and mental issues and not wanting his little brother who has always looked up to him to now see him as a failure.
I could see it as both maybe bc he gave carmy the 300k to start over with the restaurant but idk
Donna is characterized as an incredibly skilled home cook, despite her clear alcoholism and mental illness. I’m sure the food would’ve tasted great. The reality is that many of the best meals in the world are cooked under stressful and often acrimonious circumstances, if that leaked into the food half the meals you get from restaurants would taste like shit.
Absolutely. Her character wouldn't work if she wasn't an incredible cook. I don't think it's explicitly stated but It's obvious the bearzzato's all got that DAWG in them in the kitchen
@@uri5242 Except for Nat. We spend season 1 and most of season 2 thinking her nickname, "Sugar", is a term of endearment when in reality it's a mistake she made in the kitchen that Donna held against her for the rest of her life. She doesn't seem to enjoy cooking, unlike Mikey and Carmy, probably because of that
This man really said 256 weeks was about a "year ago" 😂.
Tbf most people don't know how many weeks there are in a year. We only know there's 365 days and that's it 😂.
@DonKey496 what are you talking about? It's simple math 365 days divided by 7 which give a total of 52 weeks in a year.
@@blumax961 He got the math right in the end... he said 5 years
@@blumax961 You're a bit slow huh...
@@blumax961 yes a simple map i need either pen and paper or 10 seconds to think for
I felt so bad for Sugar this episode. I feel bad for all of them, but it's like she's the only one that gets that their mom needs actual help, like mental help, but the others are just trying to brush it off.
The mom driving the car through the house at the end was just the cherry on top. Like when they start fighting after the last fork is thrown you're just like how can it get any worse than that, and somehow it did lmao
Writers: How many famous Chicagoans do we want in this episode?
Producers: Yes
The grace was actually well done even though Stevie was a little discombobulated. He was able to diffuse some of the stress, so it was perfect for the setting.
the complex mother-daughter relationship popped off on this one, and also this is just big enlightenment for how sugar manages life, i still feel bad for her
This episode had me feeling like I was there. Truly an amazing episode
For real and my ass would have major anxiety if I was at a Christmas dinner like that.
In Everything, Everywhere all at Once, Jamie Lee Curtis’s character said she drove her car through her neighbors kitchen after her husband divorced her. Now a different character she plays drives a car through a kitchen again.
Im mind blown rn
Not only that it’s after her husband died. In both situations losing her husband drove her basically crazy
@@defrteafter she saw season 1 episode 1 she told her husband that if the mother became a cast member it would be her playing the role. Several people were offered the role before her but she was right.
I mean, this could be a universe where she isn't an IRS agent but just a problematic mama bear 😅
This episode is a perfect example of why alcohol and drug abuse as well as mental health needs to be addressed between family members openly and honestly because otherwise THIS happens, then no one ever talks about these problems.
It’s what destroyed my family.
I had to check the cast on Wikipedia to see the family relationship, it made all the sense when I saw that Bob Odenkirk's character is the mom's boyfriend. That's why the line: "We're in MY father's house." is said with so much vitriol and disdain. Mikey wants to kill Lee and doesn't care if everyone saw him do it.
On again off again boyfriend, to be clear. That's why Mikey said "We're doing this again???"
but didn't donna and jimmy shared an intimate scene and a kiss in the kitchen in this episode?? I'm confused about their relationship also
This episode really made me feel for Nat. I remember when Christmas/ holidays were a big deal in my family (we have chilled out since then) and my mom would ALWAYS be stressing over everything and Id offer help and she would fuss at me for it and then complain that nobody helped her. The weeks leading up to events would be stressful! It was nowhere near this chaotic but I know that feeling of trying to be the problem solver of the family. I think thats why she was so hovering with Carmy in the first season. She has the role of the worrier which ppl view as annoying and overbearing but she probably has anxiety over things being able to go wrong at the drop of a hat and so shes always trying to stay ontop of things to an over the top level.
I can relate to Natalie a lot as the "worrier" in my family. I check in with people, that's just how I am but I have seen so many situations like the ones with Nat and a family member. My grandmother used to be really mean to my momma despite my mom being the one who helped her out financially and emotionally. My mom was a great daughter to her and my grandma did not treat her well at all. I think she had some undiagnosed mental issues but I definitely feel for Nat, especially when the mom was grabbing her face. Even her nickname Sugar isn't one from love, it's because she messed something up and it's a constant reminder.
@@neonoires omg I forgot the origins of her nickname 😭 and how her face got when they brought it up. No wonder she is a borderline perfectionist. Her mistakes are normal ones but in a family that blows everything up and those blowups lead to terrible outcomes she is probably just constantly in “problem avoidance” mode.
this comment resonated with me as the worrier of my family thank you for putting it into words
As someone who had to deal with this level of chaos, toxicity, and drama every Christmas Eve, I have indeed decided never to go home for the holidays anymore
I moved 1300 miles away from all relatives so I could limit all family time to what I felt were sane time limits with rational individuals.
@@BAD46660 What do those sane limits look like?
This episode and “Forks” right after it provides some of the strongest emotional chiaroscuro in television imo. I don’t think Forks hits as hard without the dysfunctional, abusive nightmare that this episode is right before it.
The fall of Ritchie might be one of the saddest things. He was such a nice guy. Shows just how hard he took losing Michael.
michael and his wife
It reminded me of he and Carmy's argument in the fridge from season one. Richie was left taking care of Carmy's family at the detriment of his own and he kept going.
@@ShelbyBaby27 that's... not season one
@@ShelbyBaby27 yeah Richie really has gone thru a lot in those 5 years between having a kid, divorce, loosing his best friend and having to take care of donna and the beef. No wonder he was such a mess that's a lot of emotional baggage for one person
@crowthewicked8344 it's the 1st episode. Richie lays out he's been caring for Carmy's mom for 6mos and holding down The Beef cause Carmy was too much of a cocksucker to come home. Carmy didn't even go to Mikey's funeral.
Poor Natalie man this shit made me so sad
Anyone else noticed the “HELP THE BEAR” at the beginning? Their editor is sneaky 😂
it’s at the beginning of all of these episodes 🤣
Carmey deadass look like the OG Willy Wonka
Long lost son, twin or nephew
😭No but like I’m always calling him “Gene Wilder who stood out in the rain too long”
Anyone else's device showing different thumbnail? 😭
Yup 😂
Uh huh 💀
I was so confused 💀
Yup. Weird
I was so confused lol
30:42 lmao, I see you editor. Sneaking the Lupasan “Open the DOOOR!” line in there
Do you know what reaction that one is from?
Jamie Lee Curtis gave an amazing performance in this episode!
Nat offering to help her mom in the kitchen despite knowing how mad Dee can get and having to deal with a lousy cooking-related nickname her whole life really makes me feel for her
Literally the worst dinner ever but omg the generational trauma... Natalie/Sugar constantly asking her mom if she's okay is a trauma response and I can see why after the way she screamed in her face. I feel bad for her honestly.
Dude this episode was brutal and way too familiar
I can't stress enough how many "traumas" this episode revived, like, many Christmas and new years were almost exactly like this.
I guess Mexicans (like me) and Italians really have similarities after all.
I’m Asian and yep, us too.
Same story lol
I was wondering if this episode hadn't hit too close to home for someone else.
It's one of the reasons why it shocks me so much.
Believe me Italians Christmas is like this !! Soo many people, everyone having their own shit, arguments. It’s crazy
The lowest low, to set us up for the highest high
Cicero did give richie a chance at a job, beginning of season 1 at the xanax episode they talked about richie not picking up his phone when a customer or something called. Only for the number to be michaels the whole time.
Donna is so familiar to my own mom it honestly makes this episode so uncomfortable lol, even watching other peoples reaction to it i have to pause and take a moment sometimes, i guess it just attests to how well written and acted this show is
“YOU ARE NOTHING” 😭
Steve is essentially what if Pete had a backbone.
I feel so bad for Pete. He's a fish out of water in the family, even more than Steve is.
The trauma this caused is so unreal. I cried in my room watching this. I swear to god Jamie can never do no wrong with her acting.
a Chicago dinner without at least 3 fights is considered a dull affair...
I was waiting for this moment, what a wonderful family don’t ya think 😊
Genre: Stress, Trauma, Anxiety
Gold, editor. Gold!
I think the parallels between Micky and his mom actually make what happened to Micky even sadder. He was going through it as much as she was and at every turn she had people asking if she was fine, trying to fix her up i.e uncle Lee when he tried to bring her in on his buidling, she had people being sensitive of her fuck ups like Micky himself telling Natalie not to ask her if she's ok, she had Carmy constantly telling her he is happy to be back even if he probably wasn't__ Whilst Micky on the other hand had no one thinking to ask him if he was ok coz they all assumed he was just being a charismatic asshole, he had the "supposed to be mentors" in his life picking at his weakness and in public no less, like even if you wanted to be real with a family member you would never say shit in front of everyone else so that it's not only criticism but now its embarrassment...no lie uncle Lee was just so annoying, I bet even at Micky's funeral he said something stupid and snarky. If Micky had at least even a quarter of the attention his mom did then maybe his situation may not have escalated as fast__.
“Cause my brains connected to my nerves, you monster” is such a Saul line 😂😂
So was his plan to buy an empty, shitty building and flip it. (8:24)
Sadly, him being there did not make sure everything s'all good...
My family was the opposite of this. Losing their shit every day but acting normal on holidays. After all the company left is when fists started flying. Not having any contact with my family feels good as fuck lmao. If you have a toxic home life, get the fuck out of there.
There are theories that the mom has borderline pd. Regardless of what she has exactly, she’s mentally ill in some way.
You guys didn’t recognize Gillian Jacobs so im assuming you guys havent watched Community before. Yall have got to watch it. Show is amazing!
The Best Episode in the Show.
And Possibly One of the Greatest Episodes of a Show I've seen in Recent Years.
It’s so annoying how people bash Jamie Lee Curtis’s character. I don’t blame her actions at all! After multiple run-ins with Micheal Myers, that’s enough to drive anyone insane. It’s ridiculous man…
"lemme borrow that fork one more time" lol I lost it
fishes and forks r masterpieces
18:00 Thank you, Sheera!
Mikey wasn't ok and Carmy was too blind to see it.
This episode had my blood pressure higher than the one take from last season.
Jamie lee curtis was amazing in this episode.
Pure example of how the mom turned the kids into mentally ill people too, carmy got trauma thats why he spaces out sometimes but he doesn't know, sugar too is traumatised but hasn't manifested yet in the main story line( poor girl just trying to adress the issues and help), mikey got so mentally ill he offed himself , eldest sister ran away to new york (smartest choice )
21:47 that slap sound effect hitting at this serious scene had my ass laughing 😂
26:37 this is the worst grace ever
28:00 that was actually really good 😂😂😂
God I'm so glad the Fak Brothers and Steve are there for comic relief in tjis episode, would have been too much for me if they weren't there lol
A couple months ago, I had my mom watch the Bear. And when Donna said “I make things beautiful for them, and no one makes things beautiful for me”, my mom (who is bipolar) said “Yeah…I feel that.”
Should I be concerned?
Yes
17:28 Someone pointed out that the fish was thrown onto the ground outside, and when Donna stepped out, she saw it. And that's what drove her over the edge and through the living room wall.
I dont think a show has ever leveraged the clout from its first season to get this much star power before lol. It's such a huge flex
This episode and the one with all the online orders coming in in season 1 were the two episodes that sparked my PTSD.
I had to stop watching this episode mid way to breathe just because of how relatable this episode is. Granted, mom never drove a car through the living room but i recognized a lot of dysfunction and trauma in this episode 💔
Ah yes, it has arrived, A years worth of anxiety and stress in one episode.
growing up with a bipolar parent and pipolar siblings i understood the family dynamic of this episode very well. Its interesting to see somebody confused by this lol, bc to me it all makes sense.
completely same here. it's weird and interesting to see like... people with normal families reacting to this LMAO
@Lari_A haha, glad somebody else understands my perspective
So for everyone curious: there are 52 weeks in a year, so this happened almost 5 years before the soft opening
The intros alwasy get me 😂 Lupa always doing something extra hahaha love it
this episode really hit home to people whos grown up with this kind of person in their family, just watching it made me feel so tense cuz it was so familiar
And your reward for making it through this mayhem is the magnificent catharsis of the next episode.
i don't know if anyone has said this but i'll say it anyway. the episode with marcus showed him walking around in noma where carmy went to study. my favorite subtle detail which i'm not sure is confirmed was when carmy said he loved when a new guy went into the kitchen he felt like he could smoke that guy. the dude who's training marcus said that he thought he was the best until this guy who came in was faster and more efficient than him and i believe that to be carmy. i'm not sure if it's true but it feels like it makes sense.
I think you can see a picture of Carmy and that guy in the restaurant Richie is sent to in Forks.
Donna having bipolar, Mikey slowly inheriting it, Carmy disassociating. Man this family……..
Yo wat is this notification son 😂😂
Finally, this is the episode I’ve been waiting for y’all to react to.
We swimmin outta here with this one bears! 🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟
This episode is a litmus test for normalizing dysfunction. It mortifies some while others it just the holidays 😂
Mikey was keeping Carmy away from the Beef because he was an addict and ashamed.
Tiffany, Ritchie's wife wasn't just being mean when she asked why he would set Carmy up with Claire. She knew then that Carm was unstable and not the best person to try to date Claire.
I definitely know a few people like the mom who push people away and view offering help as an insult, who then complain about how no one cares about them or helps them.
The producers said the point of all the special guests was to add to overwhelming the viewer.
Success.
Something to note is that Mikey didn’t wanna keep Carmy away from the beef bc it was a dump, he was keeping Carmy away from himself.
At this point Carmy was a VERY good chef and if they worked together they’d be successful, the issue is that Mikey knows he’s fucked up. That’s why when Carmy gives him the picture he waits till he’s gone to break down bc he knows he’d only bring Carmy down if he was around him like that. He wants to but he also knows his addiction would bring them both down in his eyes which ultimately leads to him isolating himself from Carmy before his death
This episode stressed me out so much. It took me 3 days to watch it 😥
The Bear title with Mr&Mrs smith's thumbnail
Shit like this is why Carmy said he didn’t want to come home! Also that “Open the door” at 30:42 was hilarious!!!
NATALIE...Omfg just don't ask that question. It's not that hard. Just keep quiet as it's only going to make things worse...which happened.
This was literally mentioned by Mikey at the very beginning but she still does it!
Really annoying.
Just watched this episode…. And I was just speechless the entire episode. What a crazy, mind fucking episode. Everyone in the cast played their roles amazing. Jamie Lee played a crazy alcoholic mom to perfection. The fight at the table was intense as hell. What an amazing episode. I’m still in like awe. Crazy good show the bear is.
This is the one I’ve been waiting for since you guys started the series!
Thumbnail got me.
my mom is literally like donna during christmas, its crazy
What is going on what is going on?? 🤦♀️ are we watching the same tv show? Dude it was self explanatory. Either get smarter or pay better attention. So sad
Lupa: “You good??”
Donna: “That sounded an awful lot like ‘Are you ok?’… DO I NOT LOOK OOOOOK TO YOU???!?”
I watched this episode on Christmas night with my parents; we were NOT expecting this kind of bottled trauma goin in. Thank god the next episode is great and much more positive than this one...
White middle class family Christmas…..
NAILED IT
I know Christmas can stressful time of the year but holy hell this family is stressful. But hey not every family perfect I know that well.