Everything Wrong With Every EWW Arkham Origins Video

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  • Опубликовано: 1 авг 2024
  • Merry Christmas Chaps! Whether you celebrate it or not, I hope you have an amazing holiday!
    Sins channels really can't do the greatness of the Arkham franchise justice. Nowhere is that more apparent than with Arkham Origins. Join me as I call them out on their bullcrap, and defend the game that needs it the most.
    EDIT/UPDATE: And of course Gamingsins Archive releases the Origins episode right on release day. Why wouldn't it?
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    Do not go to these channels and harass the creators. Please?
    Timestamps:
    Intro - 0:00 - 1:07
    Charriii5 - 1:07 - 17:06
    Dartigan - 17:06 - 44:36
    IamtheTruman - 44:36 - 51:50
    Punishment - 51:50 -
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  • @ClownPuncher139
    @ClownPuncher139  2 года назад +448

    Apparently it's also my channel's birthday today. Who'da thunk it?
    Merry Christmas Everyone!

    • @xenonmaster6668
      @xenonmaster6668 2 года назад +5

      Merry Christmas! Also love the coincidence tbh

    • @super-kidcritic8982
      @super-kidcritic8982 2 года назад +5

      Who indeed, happy holidays

    • @sassas1487
      @sassas1487 2 года назад

      STOP BEING RACIST 25th DECEMBER IS ONLY CHRISTMAS FOR YOU SNOWHITE WE HAVE CHRISTMAS 7th JANUARY
      for those who had used TN-1 THIS IS A JOKE

    • @sassas1487
      @sassas1487 2 года назад

      asian alfred should be a memeo this channel

    • @sana_gamez_0-o340
      @sana_gamez_0-o340 2 года назад +3

      Merry Christmas 🎅 🎄

  • @Shadydoesit
    @Shadydoesit 2 года назад +1425

    Fun fact: Before joker kills electrocutioner he uses 4 of the 6 shots in his revolver, and uses the other 2 to kill his goons next to batman after they fall, so when he's pointing the gun at batman he's actually just bluffing

    • @arkhamtony3775
      @arkhamtony3775 2 года назад +43

      How do you know his gun only has 6 bullets ?

    • @oorrrii
      @oorrrii 2 года назад +288

      @@arkhamtony3775 thats the ammunition of most standard revolvers, although it is sometimes 5 which is impossible since he used 6 shots and sometimes 7

    • @can-i-go-now
      @can-i-go-now 2 года назад +58

      Ever heard of reloading. Alot happened between Electrocutioners death and when shot the two goons.

    • @manueldelbono202
      @manueldelbono202 2 года назад +129

      @@can-i-go-now why did he need to reload? Yeah, he can, but people don't always do the smartest thing you know? Like me opening my window with one of the strongest wind known to mankind blowing outside!

    • @redace4821
      @redace4821 2 года назад +34

      @@manueldelbono202 Because Joker is not an idiot? He's crazy and definitely a psychopath but he's not dumb.
      While waiting for Batman to get to him he can put a few rounds in while saying something absurd like the lunatic he is because its the Joker.

  • @cliffbot638
    @cliffbot638 2 года назад +760

    Also I think it's explained in Arkham Knight why he gave the GCPD the shock gloves. They were technically evidence, plus anyone capable could track the signal to find him the same way he tracked electrocutioner.

    • @GabrielVittorio
      @GabrielVittorio 2 года назад +58

      yep, and he prefer the old fashioned way too in my opinion

    • @blixtm.
      @blixtm. 2 года назад +20

      @@GabrielVittorio yeah tbf I felt the shock gloves just always got in the way of fights like it didn’t feel as fun using them cause I could take down enemies instantly

    • @GabrielVittorio
      @GabrielVittorio 2 года назад +6

      @@blixtm. its op

    • @DktaJ2021
      @DktaJ2021 2 года назад +2

      Batman learns from his mistakes

    • @AustenHilton
      @AustenHilton Год назад +2

      Wasn't that the rec gun

  • @forgottentaco6098
    @forgottentaco6098 2 года назад +828

    Actually an Alfred game wouldn’t be so bad, nothing big just a small 15 dollar vr game where you make antidotes and food for Batman, I think that would be pretty cool

    • @khalifrhodes9503
      @khalifrhodes9503 2 года назад +52

      i would probably make is 3 to 4 dollars

    • @cloud_fx9640
      @cloud_fx9640 2 года назад +22

      Now I know people have the same ideas as me

    • @nowherenearby9461
      @nowherenearby9461 2 года назад +47

      too bad we cant win the boss fight with Bane on Arkham Origins tho

    • @burneraccount5591
      @burneraccount5591 2 года назад +30

      Or his combat medic days

    • @aspecimen6939
      @aspecimen6939 2 года назад +24

      And constantly being told that Bruce doesn’t have time to eat it

  • @callummillo859
    @callummillo859 2 года назад +470

    "That's just because I respect the arkham series more that their feelings"
    What a Chad

    • @Dctctx
      @Dctctx 2 года назад +7

      He’s the kind of guy to challenge you to a fight and not show up

    • @callummillo859
      @callummillo859 2 года назад +36

      @@Dctctx I've seen you around in the comment section of some of his other videos, you're really not a fan of him are you aha, but I have to ask, what did he do wrong?

    • @javariscrittentonslawyer8792
      @javariscrittentonslawyer8792 2 года назад +16

      @@callummillo859 probably a bot

    • @mr.whitepigeon1884
      @mr.whitepigeon1884 2 года назад +16

      @@Dctctx You are mistaking him for yourself, you should wear glasses when you type next time....

    • @redace4821
      @redace4821 2 года назад +10

      @@Dctctx Did you forget to turn on you screen and saw you own reflection or something?

  • @arkhamtony3775
    @arkhamtony3775 2 года назад +381

    14:35 You forgot another sin : He said " How did Bane figure out who Batman is " even though the game explained it .

    • @docsamurai9199
      @docsamurai9199 2 года назад +3

      How did he find out, actually?

    • @mexicanbatman8157
      @mexicanbatman8157 2 года назад +59

      @@docsamurai9199 something batman and bruce wayne said sounds the same in the same way of speaking

    • @rossharkins5181
      @rossharkins5181 2 года назад +83

      Batman says: “you just ran out of time.” To Vicki Vale as Bruce Wayne, and he also said the same thing to Bane as Batman. Bane put 2 and 2 together and figured out that Bruce Wayne is Batman.

    • @LocseryuOfficial
      @LocseryuOfficial 2 года назад +38

      @@rossharkins5181 he also has genius intellect, i believe the game says he has 179 iq, almost on par with. albert freaking einstein

    • @captainblighe7297
      @captainblighe7297 2 года назад +7

      Same chin.

  • @Standard-Gamer
    @Standard-Gamer 2 года назад +247

    10:05 To add onto this, Alfred literally refers to him as a "young man with a trust fund and too much anger" to which Batman replies with accusations that Alfred still sees him as a kid. That's the whole point. Bruce is being an asshole because at this point in his career, he IS an asshole, and Alfred acknowledges that. That's why Alfred says this, because at this point he really is just an angry young man with a trust fund. As we see in other games (or even in the Cold Cold Heart DLC), their dynamic grows as Bruce has matured. Not to mention later in the game Bruce actually does realize what an asshole he's been to Alfred and apologizes, because he's realized that his own arrogance is what led to Alfred nearly dying. Otherwise known as character growth.

    • @screamsintothevoid9968
      @screamsintothevoid9968 Год назад +33

      Yeah, most of the sins in these videos are just them sinning the point of the scene. Like this scene, Batman is an asshole on purpose and yet they sin it

    • @bookiwohoo
      @bookiwohoo Год назад +7

      i dont see the origins story as his learning not to be an asswhole but instead him to learn to work with others. alfred keeps pushing him to work with the police but batman refuses and it's only at the end where batman accepts help and works with the police.
      and it's mainly because after alfred almost dies, he loses confidence and says that he can't do this because he can't even defend his own home. but alfred suggests to him that perhaps he could do it with help. that than leads to him working with the cops at black gate.
      in my opinion, the whole story revolves around him accepting that he needs help and can't do it all alone.
      i think the rest about him being an asshole might be related to that but isn't mainly what the story is about

  • @ZekromAndYugiAndDrago123
    @ZekromAndYugiAndDrago123 2 года назад +221

    I think my biggest problem with the whole "Gordon should know Batman better by now" is that they JUST had their first extended conversation at most, a couple of hours ago. They had never interacted prior to this game, and it all takes place over one day. They had their first conversation on the bridge, where Batman immediately flew off to help Alfred, and then a couple of hours later, Gordon sees Batman presumably murder Bane. This is only his third overall interaction, and two of the the three times he's 'met' with Batman he was committing a crime in Gordon's eyes (Breaking and Entering at the Police Station and Murder.)
    So no, Gordon should NOT know Batman well enough at this point to know he wouldn't murder Bane and instead made it look like he did.

    • @Messup7654
      @Messup7654 Год назад +2

      Games don’t show you every single thing. Things happen in the background in shows movies and any time there’s a story every action isn’t showed you should know better by now

    • @doctorofskillz2932
      @doctorofskillz2932 10 месяцев назад

      that doesn't apply here as we know for a fact there were no interactions with gordon pre origins, and during origins, we can safely assume we see everything batman did as100% the game takes longer for the average player than the canonical length of the night@@Messup7654

    • @andrewdeluca7352
      @andrewdeluca7352 8 месяцев назад +1

      I feel like you are forgetting that Batman straight up says Bane isn't dead to Gordon, and then tells him he is about to resuscitate Bane.

  • @genitalwarthunder8784
    @genitalwarthunder8784 2 года назад +46

    "If you kill a killer then the number of killers remains the same."
    "That's why I don't stop at one."
    -Red Hood.

    • @JaceDeanLove
      @JaceDeanLove Год назад +8

      Lol I was just thinking about how that logic falls apart after 2 or more murders

    • @gmpepin
      @gmpepin 4 месяца назад

      😂😂😂😂😂

  • @batjackgames6838
    @batjackgames6838 2 года назад +256

    "people do go out and they get MURDERED"
    This spectacular line made me laugh uncontrollably for like 5 minutes

    • @ClownPuncher139
      @ClownPuncher139  2 года назад +79

      You can thank John Mullaney for inspiring the delivery.

    • @SpeedyCheetahCub
      @SpeedyCheetahCub Год назад +12

      I haven't gotten to this part of the video yet, but when you said "John Mullaney" my brain immediately imagined him saying that sentence and I started laughing.

  • @tobyjack1238
    @tobyjack1238 2 года назад +151

    The Alfred death scene was so convincing to me the first time I played it that I legitimately thought he died for real for a few seconds. I just rationalized that the Alfred we talked to from City was an A.I. that Bruce designed in his honor.

    • @aidennope7207
      @aidennope7207 2 года назад +28

      Let me tell you something Alfred AIs go terrible read the dark metal comics it's messed up

    • @DrDolan2000
      @DrDolan2000 2 года назад +9

      That would've been quite the twist

    • @nucklelavee1091
      @nucklelavee1091 2 года назад

      Your all idiots

    • @patrykszczepanski773
      @patrykszczepanski773 Год назад +2

      @@aidennope7207 that was
      One time

  • @callummillo859
    @callummillo859 2 года назад +108

    29:05
    Just want to note also that Roger Craig Smith doesn't play chris is this version of resident evil, here is shown the HD remaster of the first game, where chris is voiced by Joe Whyte, Roger voices chris in resident evil 5, 6 and a couple spin offs, making this reference completely pointless, that deserves a few more sins

    • @RiiViiMedia2424
      @RiiViiMedia2424 2 года назад +11

      Extra sins!

    • @mikeval1525
      @mikeval1525 2 года назад +1

      Dartigan has a hate boner for Chris redfield for some reason.

    • @rhy45bianchi31
      @rhy45bianchi31 Год назад +4

      I adore re1 remake that precius gamecube masterpice

  • @cliffbot638
    @cliffbot638 2 года назад +129

    Here's something that never gets brought up. In the scene where Joker blows up the building Batman throws him across the table and scattering the detonators. Yet in the scene where Bane punched him off the Joker the table is back to normal. That's an actual sin.

    • @ClownPuncher139
      @ClownPuncher139  2 года назад +58

      Yup. One that either Charriii or Dartigan mentioned.

    • @cliffbot638
      @cliffbot638 2 года назад +37

      @@ClownPuncher139 Maybe I should start a sin channel. Show them how it's done.

    • @oorrrii
      @oorrrii 2 года назад +13

      @@cliffbot638 I'll be rootin for ya

    • @cliffbot638
      @cliffbot638 2 года назад +4

      @@oorrrii Aww thank you

    • @oorrrii
      @oorrrii 2 года назад +8

      @@cliffbot638 anytime friend

  • @graydentucci1463
    @graydentucci1463 2 года назад +66

    To be honest with the copperhead thing. If she did keep him fighting or physically exerting himself longer it would have killed him. The more he moves, the more oxygen is exhaled, leading the neurotoxin to flow through his system much faster.

  • @The_Hollow
    @The_Hollow 2 года назад +57

    I do wanna mention, in Arkham knight, you actually CAN see the Electricutioner's gloves in a display case.
    So Batman only just gave them to the Police.

  • @nikin.7170
    @nikin.7170 2 года назад +151

    19:33 The real reason as to how the death penalty can exist in gotham and also not have batman's villains get executed is because they are all considered legally insane which means that they can't get legally executed and will instead most probably rot in a mental institute till they die. This is why Calendar man is almost gassed as he's not considered legally insane as is evident by his presence in blackgate instead of one of the mental asylums in New Jersey. The part about the death penalty not being legal in jersey anymore however doesn't make any sense other than that the game might take place before 2007 which would also make sense as to why he's not executed again between origins and city

    • @williamgreci8219
      @williamgreci8219 2 года назад +5

      Makes sense to me. Especially when factoring in the implications of long-term manipulation by the League of Assassins.

    • @nnnnmhughuuhhjiijj9457
      @nnnnmhughuuhhjiijj9457 2 года назад +5

      @@williamgreci8219 And those Court Of Owls guys? Does those guys have anything to do with that?

    • @williamgreci8219
      @williamgreci8219 2 года назад +5

      @@nnnnmhughuuhhjiijj9457 I don''t know about that one. The League of Assassins one I turned to based on one of the extortion data audio files.

    • @markmagician2471
      @markmagician2471 2 года назад +1

      I would think Penguin would since he's a sane man that's a black market gunrunner

    • @SheoGotSomeCheese
      @SheoGotSomeCheese 4 месяца назад +1

      @@markmagician2471Yeah, but he's rich, and has a pretty diverse set of businesses outside his illegal activities.

  • @captainblighe7297
    @captainblighe7297 2 года назад +70

    The “That is fear” speech is literally one of my favourite speech’s in Video games, also this game deserves an Asylum and City esque remaster and maybe a sequel between origins and asylum.

    • @nu-agegamer3548
      @nu-agegamer3548 3 месяца назад +1

      Unfortunately it's a little bit hard, due to the soundtrack. Also due to the differences in studios. Batman Arkham City and Asylum had the same studio and composer, while Origins was a different studio. And Christopher Drake, the composer for Origins, would need to be paid royalties. That's why Origins may never get remastered.

    • @seasonembrace3624
      @seasonembrace3624 14 дней назад

      I think it’s also because WB would also rather focus on the unpopular Suicide Squad as well…😣

  • @Everik-ct6pg
    @Everik-ct6pg 2 года назад +88

    35:24 is probably the sin i have the most problem with. There's a reason they removed stuff like the planned “tripping” mechanic, where Batman would occasionally trip while running: it made the game less fun. Opting to not use these upgrades would be seen as a downside in the long run, as it would make the gameplay far more limited and boring. Sometimes sacrifices have to be made, even if they seem contrived. It absolutely wasn't made due to budget constraints, but because the devs cared enough to put the player's fun over the logic of the plot, and even then managed to come up with perfect reasons for why these items aren't used in the later chronological games.

  • @heetman4785
    @heetman4785 2 года назад +230

    Can’t wait to play the game since I just got it today

    • @carbonrobin
      @carbonrobin 2 года назад +6

      Wait then why did you watch it

    • @mytypamilkman
      @mytypamilkman 2 года назад

      Same bro

    • @scuproductions
      @scuproductions 2 года назад +29

      You'll enjoy it. I got this game for Christmas too and it does not deserve the hate it gets. So fun.

    • @travisahicks
      @travisahicks 2 года назад +7

      I LOVE the story

    • @bozidarrados8240
      @bozidarrados8240 2 года назад +2

      I got the arkham collection can't wait to play all of em.

  • @Standard-Gamer
    @Standard-Gamer 2 года назад +74

    27:29 The fact that you acknowledge what a great Joker Baker played makes me respect you way more than I already do. Also, he claims that Mark Hamill's performance is being mimicked, and that might be true to some extent, but in a lot of ways Troy Baker makes the character his own as well. Hamill delivers a more fun/comedy type of performance and delivers it with aspects of horror. Troy Baker's Joker is a little more serious and dark, which is evidenced by the final sequence when he and Batman fight. Plus, in my opinion his voice fits better for a younger Joker. Not calling Hamill old lol but I'm just saying that their voices fit for their respective characters. Mark Hamill's voice is perfect for the other games, but from my perspective imagining this Joker with Hamill's voice doesn't feel right. I also feel like the voices signify the growth of the characters, hence why Batman has a different actor as well. Again, not saying any of the actors are old but I can't think of any better way to explain this. Point is, Hamill does a great Joker in the other games, but given the atmosphere and overall dynamic of the Joker here, Troy Baker was perfect as well.

    • @redace4821
      @redace4821 2 года назад +14

      This Joker is still new being the Joker and given his ruthless and violence nature it make sense he should be serious and dark.

    • @SpeedyCheetahCub
      @SpeedyCheetahCub Год назад +10

      I think that Troy's performance here was spot-on for a younger version of Mark's Joker. It's just enough of an impression for you to believe that he will become Mark's Joker while also being unique enough that he feels new.

  • @HarukiKenway
    @HarukiKenway 2 года назад +77

    Actually in this CG trailer Troy did Black Mask's voice when Black mask appeared. I noticed IT not too long ago and i loved it

  • @blacktytrix
    @blacktytrix 2 года назад +40

    14:38 this sin also makes no sense because they actively show us the recordings of batman and Bruce Wayne that bane has where they both say "you just ran out of time" in the same way, thus helping him put the pieces together. Lest we forget, bane is smart AF at this point in the continuity so it's 100% believable. Hell, clownpuncher goes over this with the next sin video, idk how the first guy missed this.
    Edit: 40:52 is why characters propose the opening of arkham asylum, why is this a sin? It's a setup to the premise of technically the rest of the series.

  • @zalybrainlessgenius503
    @zalybrainlessgenius503 2 года назад +105

    Arkham Origins is precious and should be protected at all cost.

  • @stage31lumbago62
    @stage31lumbago62 2 года назад +90

    New title for video: "Clownpuncher destroys half-thinkers with facts and logic". Great video, this was my first Arkham game, and I am glad someone else likes it. Merry late Christmas as well

  • @arkhamtony3775
    @arkhamtony3775 2 года назад +36

    16:30 I have a very good explaination for this , The Grapnel Accelerator was slightly slower than the Grapnel Boost, so it was likely that the Grapnel Boost was an upgraded version of the Grapnel Accelerator.

    • @andrewdeluca7352
      @andrewdeluca7352 8 месяцев назад

      Or the Origins suit is more armored than the Asylum and City suits. It was likely able to handle the force of the accelerator, but Bruce realized a cloth like fiber was better for mobility and stealth at the expense of not being able to use the accelerator anymore. The boost is an upgraded version of the accelerator that the City suit can use, but it is just a prototype that isn't perfect. Than the Knight suit comes along which is the best of both worlds between the Origins and Asylum/City suit. Mobile, armored, and able to withstand the force of an upgraded grapple boost.

  • @laszayar
    @laszayar 2 года назад +20

    15:05
    Red Hood: Kill two so it goes down!
    Batman: that’s not how you’re supposed to play the game...

  • @dustinj918
    @dustinj918 2 года назад +16

    Regarding Dartigan sinning Batman not killing Joker (sin 81), Linkara makes a good point on why Batman never kills: he's trying to be better then the lunatics he fights. He needs people to trust him to be a symbol. The instant he kills, that's permanently ruined, because how can the people of Gotham trust he won't do it again? I know you brought this up earlier with the "if you kill a killer, the number of killers stays the same", I just wanted to elaborate.

  • @legodude2513
    @legodude2513 7 месяцев назад +3

    " if you kill a killer the number of killers stays the same"-Batman
    " that's why you kill more than one"-Red hood , Punisher , Deadpool , literally any other Anti- hero.

  • @cbellostudios6386
    @cbellostudios6386 2 года назад +27

    Honestly I like to think that post Arkham City Bane actually began to get back his intelligence because he does seem substantially more smart in that game than in asylum plus he eventually fights his addiction to venom and Titan so I can only assume that leads to him regaining some of his smarts

    • @calebbarnhouse496
      @calebbarnhouse496 8 месяцев назад +1

      The thing is bane isn't even that stupid in asylum, like yea with a venom titan mix he wasn't very smart, but but he was coherent and he made sense, and in city he again showed no sense of being stupid outside of how batman beats him, but i chalk that up to not having the resources for anything except a recycled bane boss fight, so no need to reuse it, his role in both games are so small that his boss fight is easily the longest you'll be against him until orgins, where he ironically becomes the dumbest he is in the series by the end of the game

  • @christophergroenewald5847
    @christophergroenewald5847 2 года назад +20

    34:28 What also makes this scene so amazing is the subtlety about it. We already know that Joker is obsessed with Batman and we know why, but that obsession goes both ways. This scene is actually not exactly what happened to Batman's parents. There is one crucial difference. The man pulling the trigger is not Joe Chill. It's Joker.
    In some continuities, Joe Chill was killed before Bruce could get justice for his parents death and he never got the closure he needed. That was the main driving force behind becoming batman. He thought he could find that closure by making sure that no one else ever experienced what he did.
    What this scene shows is that whether or not they're there, Bruce has drawn similarities between Chill and Joker(at least on a subconscious level) and when he sees Joker, he sees the monster who murdered his parents and a second chance to avenge their deaths

  • @dizzyishere999
    @dizzyishere999 8 месяцев назад +5

    The shock gloves actually don't break. In Arkham Knight, you can actually see the shock gloves inside the GCPD right next to where you pick up the REC. If you interact with it, Cash mentions that batman handed the gloves in because he prefers beating criminals the old fashioned way.

  • @dazeddamien5625
    @dazeddamien5625 2 года назад +14

    16:38, this concept is actually referenced in Arkham City. Over the years, batman focuses on lightweight suits. Alfred asks him at one point "have you ever thought of a bigger utility belt?" And the response is "of course. I tried it. It was too heavy and it slowed me down"

  • @cjgg4885
    @cjgg4885 2 года назад +18

    16:56 Hell something similar happens in the DLC for Spider-Man PS4. Miles says that the web shooter has to be changed for when he eventually uses them because of his different size when compared to Peter. If they stayed the same, even if Peter and Miles did the exact same moves, Miles would possibly swing uncontrollably due to the web shooters not taking into account his size. The same logic can be applied to Batman needing to alter the grappenal accelerator (and eventually the suit as seen in Arkham Knight) in order for him to not crash into the building or rip off his arm.

  • @GarrettTheViking
    @GarrettTheViking 2 года назад +25

    Something I've noticed after playing Arkham Origins many times is that it sounds like Troy Baker voices Black Mask until he's revealed to be Joker in Merchants Bank. He's such a good voice actor that it's hard to tell if it's him or Brian Bloom, but I believe it's Troy.

    • @redace4821
      @redace4821 2 года назад +2

      The real Black Mask still voiced by Brian but when is Joker impersonating as Black Mask, Troy was the one who do Black Mask in the form of Joker pretend to be someone else.

  • @medafan53
    @medafan53 2 года назад +15

    19:24 You make a good point, particularly since it's the Pre-Commissioner Gordon GCPD, who are almost as likely to shoot curfew breakers dead as the criminals are. Also, a minor thing but one would expect most parents would have bought something at some point prior to Christmas eve, Dartigan would've sounded less facetious if he'd mentioned something like Christmas dinner, since it's more plausible that people may not have had all the food they wanted to get fresh the day before.
    Also, Dartigan, look a Pioneer's bridge during Cold Cold heart, that's not 'a few inches of snow'.

    • @arkhamtony3775
      @arkhamtony3775 2 года назад

      I think this was because of the thugs who had ice guns in Cold Cold Heart

    • @medafan53
      @medafan53 2 года назад +1

      @@arkhamtony3775 I suspect it is a mix of both, the Ice Guns mildly restrain Batman for a brief period before he broke free, the sheer mass of ice on the bridge seems too much for the limited capacity of the guns on their own.

  • @tyrantking9000
    @tyrantking9000 2 года назад +18

    Wait, the nightmare Batman outfit Joker saw was a potential outfit? As cool as that could've been, I don't think having it wearable and corrupting save-data is anywhere near a good idea.

  • @jamesamey
    @jamesamey 2 года назад +12

    Actually, there is one reference to a year in all these games. There is no definitive date but in Arkham City, there is a plaque above the entrance gates when you're on your way to Hugo Strange during Protocol Ten, marking Quincy Sharpe's approval of the institution. Whilst the entire year is slightly damaged, the first two digits are definitely 19.

  • @medafan53
    @medafan53 2 года назад +15

    28:33 Black Mask IS brought up again, while not the big bad we were expecting, he is the focus on one of the side quests, the Drug Canister missions that repaint the Titan Container missions from City, ending with Batman fighting Roman in the Church. All this tells me is that Dartigan only played the main missions, and neglected the side content.

    • @k.w.6626
      @k.w.6626 2 года назад +1

      Exactly, I was thinking the same thing, the most wanted missions, I loved those.

  • @medafan53
    @medafan53 2 года назад +26

    49:02 I will defend Truman here, if you do side content, Bruce could've also captured Deadshot and stopped Shiva by this point, however you're still right that Alfred was right to be concerned, particularly when one considers that Alfred is acting on emotion, based on his concern for someone who he sees as a son, and not the logic of how dangerous Bruce can be.

  • @the_good_within
    @the_good_within 2 года назад +9

    27:35 Joker says: "life would be so simple if you were all I wanted, no no your just a tiny little distraction compared to what I've got up my sleeve." HE LITERALLY JUST EXPLAINED WHY HE DIDN'T KILL BATMAN IN THAT CUTSCENE.

  • @dom20141
    @dom20141 2 года назад +36

    Really happy to have found your channel recently, the Arkham games are some of my all-time favorites, so it's great to see someone out there still making content for them. Keep it up homie

  • @Nickdabom8
    @Nickdabom8 2 года назад +24

    I played cold cold heart last night, an amazing DLC and I’m gonna finish the game again tonight. Such an amazing game. Also I finally finished the grapples for Origins. It was a nightmare

  • @lutheranderson8188
    @lutheranderson8188 2 года назад +11

    19:29 Also to further explain, these criminals are likely insane. If I'm correct, Gotham is in the U.S. it's illegal to incorporate the death penalty on the criminally insane as far as I know

    • @JaceDeanLove
      @JaceDeanLove Год назад +1

      Yes. However, successfully proving you're insane in court is nigh impossible

  • @brandonpartain10
    @brandonpartain10 2 года назад +6

    About the Charriii5 shock gloves as defibrillators sin, the gloves are in the GCPD evidence room. In the recorded log, Aaron Cash says Batman gave them to the department. He even says something like “I guess he prefers beating people up the old fashioned way.”

  • @medafan53
    @medafan53 2 года назад +6

    32:20 Of course this assumes that they are wired detonators, and Joker didn't just design wireless ones that looked like the kind of plunger detonator you might see in Loony Toons, because it amused him. Given that there don't appear to be wires coming from the box, I'd say that's exactly what he did.

  • @daytonaciarus9404
    @daytonaciarus9404 2 года назад +8

    Dude you deserve so much more. I love this channel and look forward to when videos come out.

  • @bobadeeznuts7011
    @bobadeeznuts7011 2 года назад +22

    "if you kill a killer, the number of killers in the world remains the same"
    kill more than one killer, problem solved

    • @FlyingPenguin196
      @FlyingPenguin196 2 года назад +2

      Exactly, what kind of murderer - murderer has a neutral K/D?

    • @boodlebubby6147
      @boodlebubby6147 2 года назад +1

      Jason Todd, without hesitation: "Kill two."

    • @HankThePimpHill
      @HankThePimpHill Год назад

      Listen here

    • @SpeedyCheetahCub
      @SpeedyCheetahCub Год назад +5

      It's that argument that Red Hood and Batman have. Batman's way of thinking is that he can't kill because then he is no worse than the criminals he fights, while Red Hood's way of thinking is that if he kills someone who will kill again, he is saving lives. Batman sees leaving Joker alive as not stooping to his level; Red Hood sees it as allowing him to kill more people.

    • @DrDolan2000
      @DrDolan2000 Год назад +1

      +@@SpeedyCheetahCub Could they both be right?

  • @robbiesrevelations3096
    @robbiesrevelations3096 2 года назад +4

    43:32 look I love freeze. You can't cheese him at all. But he doesn't scare me at all. 2nd phase Bane still scares me. It still challenges me to this day and I know I gotta be extremely careful around him. City freeze I beat all the time no problem not so with bane

  • @lovelyangel2366
    @lovelyangel2366 9 месяцев назад +2

    15:04 “Alright batman but if you kill like, 100 killers thats like 99 less in the world” -Russianbadger

  • @PrinxeGaming_
    @PrinxeGaming_ 2 года назад +5

    Defibrillators are shock devices but control shock devices as seen here by the gloves. The gloves are a controlled shock device so the glove could in revive someone given enough volts of electricity in the proper areas as Batman did

  • @PASH0118
    @PASH0118 2 года назад +5

    Love how NONE of them show batman getting his back broken AFTER SINNING THE FIRST FIGHT. Love the videos man, keep them up, batman has inspired me so much through my life. Love you❤️

  • @SplendidSuperman122
    @SplendidSuperman122 2 года назад +5

    So funfact I got near the end of I Am The Night Mode on this game and then… During Bane’s TN-1 boss fight… I accidentally hit jump out of the vent instead of takedown and he killed me… Thus restarting I Am The Night mode… Let’s just say I had a lot of controller pieces to pick up after that…

  • @russellschwartz9687
    @russellschwartz9687 2 года назад +23

    It seems like while you love this game you can acknowledge there’s some funky shit going on with it, largely due to the development no doubt. You gonna do a “everything actually wrong” with this one?

  • @medafan53
    @medafan53 2 года назад +5

    42:42 In knightfall, as he used to until sometime in the 00s/2010s someone finally realized he should really be wearing some kind of armor, Bruce was clad in a cloth costume, here he's wearing an armored bodysuit that softened the blow

  • @TristenSarelvun
    @TristenSarelvun 2 года назад +7

    22:37 I think you both have points. On one hand, he mentioned Bruce Wayne's _back channels,_ I think implying that _they won't know it's Bruce Wayne._ It'll be anonymous or even Batman. On the other, you are right, most of these assassins likely wouldn't take a no-kill job. To me, what's more important is that... it's Batman. If they kill Batman, not only will they be pretty well-off, they'd be famous. People would be clamoring to hire them and be willing to pay _tons_ of money for the person who killed the Batman. I doubt most of those characters would turn that offer down. I'm also sure that Batman doesn't want to give extremely lethal murderers even more money to upgrade and murder more.

  • @0utta_Z0n3
    @0utta_Z0n3 2 года назад +6

    No lie this game was my first Arkham game so when alfred "died" I actually thought he did die so I actually cried

  • @Argonaut717
    @Argonaut717 3 месяца назад +2

    7:40 I also wanna point out that this is the first time this Batman has had such a big public crisis to deal with. Prior to this he was probably just doing what we see at the beginning of the game interrogating lowlifes and whatnot then he’s fighting psychopaths blowing up building and bridges so obviously they are going to be more publicly seen leading to reporters finally being able to get footage

  • @caesarspeaks
    @caesarspeaks 2 года назад +3

    Troy Baker was doing the voices himself in that scene, you can tell, it sounds a lot like Talion with no British accent

  • @Standard-Gamer
    @Standard-Gamer 2 года назад +7

    Am I the only one who actually loved Origins from the first playthrough? I've always thought the story was amazing, and the biggest complaint was the combat which honestly wasn't that bad. I also heard people complain about the Joker boss fight, even going so far as to say it was worse than Asylum, but I actually thought it was perfect. Instead of any real combat, it's just Joker continuously trying to push Batman to the edge after having saved his life. We get to see, in an interactive cinematic masterpiece, the true origin of their relationship and why Joker is always pushing Batman to his limit. Sure, it's not really a "boss fight" and more of a short sequence, but punching the Joker in the face as he laughs/grins at Batman, angering him further and pushing him to cross that line, I thought it was absolutely amazing. Plus, it's actually the perfect boss fight for the Joker if you think about it. Joker isn't much of a fighter, especially against Batman, but he will, without hesitation, take beating after beating and laugh in Batman's face the whole time, and that's exactly what that fight delivers. On top of that, before it even begins, you can see that Joker is genuinely frustrated that Batman didn't kill Bane. He thought he had finally pushed Batman to that limit, that Batman went over the edge, and then he had his celebration crushed by Batman himself. When he says "that's NOT funny" you can tell he really means it. Then he proceeds to laugh immediately afterwards as he tries to push Batman yet again, fully aware of how angry Batman is at him. The entire sequence was perfect and the story overall really got to me. This is hands down my favourite origin story for Batman and Joker, and it's tied with Arkham City for my favourite in the franchise.

  • @star.master_cranium
    @star.master_cranium 2 года назад +1

    THANK YOU!!! Finally someone acknowledging the Heart Monitor goes Kaboom when removed line! The Presence be damned i love those guys for making those videos but I also hate it whenever they overlook this specific part!

  • @medafan53
    @medafan53 2 месяца назад +1

    36:20 Also, as I recall, this return to GCPD uses a totally different entrance, going to a different place, the only part that you actually backtrack to is the elevator shaft you cross through on the way to the evidence lockup.So even if it wasn't a staple trope of Open World Games, it barely even counts, it's just located in the same basic area.

  • @NYCWalIcrawler
    @NYCWalIcrawler 2 года назад +3

    Honestly origins is probably the only arkham game where i actively avoid using detective vision because of how much i adore the game's aesthetic and the way gotham looks during a snowstorm. It makes me want more batman games to take place during a snowstorm

  • @TheRoxBox99
    @TheRoxBox99 2 года назад +9

    I love this approach to EWW videos. Taking the piss out of old videos, debunking nitpicks, and actually looking past surface level observations to look for solutions and not make bad criticisms just to make something look worse than it is

    • @sunsetman22
      @sunsetman22 2 года назад +4

      I dislike those types of videos with every ounce of being (well not that intensely but still) and seeing someone take the piss out of them is quite refreshing, since most are poorly made and unfunny.

    • @TheRoxBox99
      @TheRoxBox99 2 года назад +2

      @@sunsetman22 people have said that EWW videos have ruined filmmaking, and they're basically right, since so many people have tried to make movies as EWW proof as possible, which makes the movies much worse

    • @thereseemstobeenanerror1219
      @thereseemstobeenanerror1219 7 месяцев назад

      @@TheRoxBox99
      Is that really their fault?

  • @Mr_Edward_Nigma
    @Mr_Edward_Nigma 2 месяца назад +2

    i have to admit, electrocutioner's defeat will never not be funny.

  • @ArsxnIV
    @ArsxnIV Год назад +3

    I'd like to point out that when Joker switches to Roman's voice, Troy Baker is still doing the voice, he's just mimicking Black Mask. So Joker's impression is possible, because someone actually did it, so there was even less reason to sin that

  • @BRANDONCLIP
    @BRANDONCLIP 2 года назад +1

    Happy to see this Channel been growing ever since it was at a very low number

  • @endmostsnail6750
    @endmostsnail6750 2 года назад +2

    12:30 you could argue that the remote claws parts/concepts were used for the line launcher since you can see the line launcher in the Batcave

  • @themanwiththerubyshadow
    @themanwiththerubyshadow 2 года назад +2

    I love watching your content and this was an amazing Christmas gift

  • @bobadeeznuts7011
    @bobadeeznuts7011 2 года назад +2

    troy baker has worked on every arkham game, except asylum, joker in Origins, Robin and Two-Face in City, Jason, and Two-Face in Arkham Knight, and Jason in VR

  • @ignflaw1essed773
    @ignflaw1essed773 2 года назад +1

    An amazing video as always. Great work and merry Christmas :D

  • @GoldenfoxxPrime
    @GoldenfoxxPrime 2 года назад +5

    Batman flat-out gives up the Electrocutioner's gloves to GCPD by Arkham Knight. Apparently he "preferred beating up thugs the old fashioned way."
    We don't know why Bane went after Batman the way he did in this game. It's a huge open plot thread the game went out of its way to leave open (talk to Alfred at a few points after Bane encounters and that one becomes clear). It's one of the reasons I'm still pissed off we never got a direct sequel to this. Huge threads from Bane, Riddler, and Shiva left completely unanswered.

  • @PrinceSheogorath
    @PrinceSheogorath 5 месяцев назад +2

    But if you kill 100 killers then the amount of killers decreases by 99. You gotta admit insane or not joker would be labeled a terrorist. He full well knows what he’s doing and takes joy in doing it. And the countless times he’s broken containment only to kill again… there’s a limit, corrupt justice or not there’s a limit *somewhere*

  • @vanfist_in7371
    @vanfist_in7371 8 месяцев назад +1

    23:08 - Actualy, there is a Riddle in Arkham City, involving a tablet with the opening date of this superprison - Arkham City. The year is errased, with only number 1 in the beggining being intact. So, Arkham City takes place somewhere around 1999 - 2000 at max, giving that it's winter there. So... It's another timeline, not so simular to our Earth, cause them having more advanced tecknology (with the Wonder City story - what a surprise!)

  • @danielcrockett1224
    @danielcrockett1224 2 года назад +9

    "If u kill a killer, the number of killers remain the same" but if u kill 99 killers, it goes down to by 99 and you'll die of old age anyway so it doesnt really work for me

  • @mrshadesapple5619
    @mrshadesapple5619 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for still uploading Arkham content!

  • @knttre1157
    @knttre1157 2 года назад +2

    15:03, Red hood: "well yea batman but if I kill like 100 killers the number of killers goes down by like 99"

  • @medafan53
    @medafan53 2 месяца назад +1

    14:15 In the scene in which Batman discovers that Bane knows his Identity it shows how; when Bruce said the phrase "You just ran out of time." to Bane, he used the same tone of voice as when he said it to Vikki Vale in a televised interview, allowing Bane to match their voices. If you've watched the Brooklyn 99 Cold Open where Jake makes a lineup of suspects sing "I want it that way" he's doing the same thing there.
    There are numerous people who have noted circumstances that could suggest Wayne as the Batman, and he has yet to adopt the "idiot playboy Brucie" persona, there is less evidence to counter it, so he was likely on Bane's suspect list, this peice of evidence confirmed it to him. This is likely why Bruce would later adopt the "Brucie" persona.

  • @michaeliv284
    @michaeliv284 5 месяцев назад +1

    Here's a good sin no one seems to note; before Bane uses TN-1, he calls Batman "Mr Wayne". He wasn't exactly quiet and there were were a number of prisoners still left observing in the background. No one decided to take up that info?

  • @Terminal_Apotos
    @Terminal_Apotos 2 года назад +1

    A video on my Favorite Game Ever on Christmas. Can’t get any better than that!

  • @Ryan-mf4pd
    @Ryan-mf4pd 2 года назад +1

    Merry Christmas and thanks for a year of awesome content

  • @medafan53
    @medafan53 2 года назад +2

    16:50 Is that even a theory, in Knight, when talking about the new grapnel Accelerator, doesn't Lucius explicitly mention that the suit can take the G Forces, implicitly suggesting that the old ones couldn't?

  • @morganmawson1816
    @morganmawson1816 2 года назад +2

    Another thing about the charii5 shock gloves never being used again thing. It was actually explained in the evidence locker in arkham knight that he handed them into the GCPD.

  • @bengamerlsyolo6788
    @bengamerlsyolo6788 2 года назад +3

    30:33
    Actually, there's a specific explanation as to why Batman didn't keep the shock gloves. In Arkham Knight, if you go to the evidence locker room you can find Electrocutioner's display showing his gloves. If you interact with the display, Cash explains that Batman handed these over to them at some point after the events of Arkham Origins. Why he handed them over in the first place is beyond me but I guess that's just how it happend.

  • @DktaJ2021
    @DktaJ2021 2 года назад +2

    First Batman game I got on my 360. It was a passion of mine to play that game and I’ve completed all missions 5 times. Loved it with all my heart. Wish there were more games

  • @arkhamtony3775
    @arkhamtony3775 2 года назад +4

    28:46 You forgot 2 sins here , 1st The way Dartigin prononced " continuity
    2nd He said Black Mask isn't brought up again , even though Black Mask later has his own side mission

  • @can-i-go-now
    @can-i-go-now 2 года назад +4

    While I loved Mark Hamill's Joker- Troy Baker's version was amazing. I never understood the hate.

    • @avangelinechatters
      @avangelinechatters 2 года назад

      For a very long time (longer than I really want to admit) I thought Joker was voiced by the same person because of how close they sounded to me

  • @blackcat738
    @blackcat738 2 года назад +6

    "If you kill a killer, the number of killers in the world remain the same"
    -Batman
    but if you kill multiple killers then it logically goes down, right?

  • @gabishepherd2379
    @gabishepherd2379 8 месяцев назад +2

    Ok Batman but if you kill like 100 killers the number goes down by like 99

  • @camgoon5002
    @camgoon5002 2 года назад +5

    I’m so glad that origins is being talked in a more positive light. Loved this game since I picked it up

  • @philipsalama8083
    @philipsalama8083 5 месяцев назад +1

    There's something genuinely funny about someone seeing Firefly - a pyromaniac covered in burn scars who constantly screams about how much he likes burning people - and wondering why he's not being rational and walking away.

  • @takodachi8283
    @takodachi8283 2 месяца назад +2

    It's hard not to want to go to the first one's video and dislike it, but you put him and the rest where they deserve so fine that I don't feel the need to. Good job, ClownPuncher.

  • @HarukiKenway
    @HarukiKenway 2 года назад +1

    23:49
    More important thing. Penguin supplied assasisns. That was said on Penguin's tapes. So its obvious Deathstroke knew where penguin is

  • @dirant5211
    @dirant5211 2 года назад +2

    There is a calendar in Origins showing years around 1975, and the aesthetic of some characters kinda fits.

  • @Aspect_of_the_idiot
    @Aspect_of_the_idiot 5 дней назад +2

    My gripe with these kinds of sins videos is they never know when to actually give the thing they critique a sin or make a joke and not explain why it is bad and sin it anyway.

  • @qui-gonjinn8350
    @qui-gonjinn8350 2 года назад +2

    Another amazing video ps merry xmas

  • @bubel1436
    @bubel1436 2 года назад +2

    Fun fact: in Arkham Knight you can find shock gloves in the evidence room at GCPD

  • @quantavious_figglebottom
    @quantavious_figglebottom 2 года назад +3

    I'm gonna be completely honest. I had no clue batman took place in New Jersey. And apparently it's been Canon since 1940? Why has no one talked about this?

  • @dyland9745
    @dyland9745 2 года назад +3

    6:48 yeah that is definitely just Troy Baker doing a different voice. I'd know his voice anywhere.

  • @cliffbot638
    @cliffbot638 2 года назад +3

    It's only after I watched Breaking Bad did I realize the scene where Batman and Alfred have their argument was an inspired from it.

  • @medafan53
    @medafan53 2 года назад +1

    -23:33 Actually, thinking about it, Electrocutioner does reflect a major character flaw of Bruce in this game; Overconfidence. Lester's overconfidence in his own abilities mean that he wrongly believes he can take Bruce, leading to his immediate downfall, Bruce's overconfidence can be seen in particular in 2 places
    #1 Despite Bane knowing his identity Bruce assumes his defences will keep Alfred safe, yes he has no other choice, he needs to save the people on the Bridge, but he is still overconfident in his defences and Alfred pays for it.
    #2 Bruce believes that he can handle everything without aid, and on the bridge, had Gordon left everything to Bruce then the final bomb would've gone off.