I tell yah, as a Canadian working in a tool room and total gun nut, this was like PORN to me I couldn't get my cellphone close enough to my face. Beautiful work crew you have, really nice you're keeping people working. Amazing and I could only WISH
What I find beside the beauty of the machining and the quality product in the end is the awesome fact that the man in the wheelchair is capable of, AND doing MORE, than many I know who have ZERO inhibitions, Sadly, they have chosen to do nothing but wait for a FREE RIDE. YOU my friend are a fantastic human being and a great worker, an asset to the company by all means ! Kudos to you....
@@NielsenGunPartsDK That is fantastic ! Just watching the video, you can see (and feel) his determination, machine know how and ability to do ANYTHING, he wishes to do. He has my utmost respect as does the company and workers. You have a great captain in the wheelhouse ! Maybe if I start saving now, I can afford one of his designs down the road.
Thoroughly enjoyed watching! It is such a pity that Australian laws prohibit these excellent products you produce. I am glad that I have one on my firearm in N.Z.
@@NielsenGunPartsDK hai I'm from Philippines I want to buy silencer of R4 RIFFLE korean model 5.56 mm bullet ... I'm a soldier I need it ASAP.. how much I pay?? I hope it's not so expensive 😣😣..
It’s sad that it’s next to impossible to get a firearm in Europe, but no issue to get a suppressor. While it’s next to impossible to get a suppressor in the States, but no issue to get the firearm. Come on Governor Abbot! Sign that suppressor bill! Great video, too bad I’ll probably never get a chance to buy one. Love the design.
The mfg in the next town over uses Haas CNCs exclusively and a monocore design..... Anyway after retiring from programming/running machines for 30 years, this was fun to watch.
Problem with CNC, like all computers, Garbage in, Garbage out. But this setup looks effective. So why turn round stock into tubes? Material, time and energy waste.
Dear Bryan, Sorry for this late reply. We use rods rather than tubes for several reasons. One reason is that tubes tend to vary slightly in thickness, increasing the risk of the suppressor rupturing. By machining out a rod, we have total control of material strength through uniformity. Another reason is that the internal diameter of each segment vary greatly. One end of a segment has a vary large diameter, where the other end is rather narrow. This can be seen in the video as well. We are therefore not just mindlessly machining away aluminium for the sake of it, but because it, unfortunately, is necessary for a functionally great design with a rather low weight (many of our supressors are below 400 grams) I hope this answers your question.
@@NielsenGunPartsDK bryan s martin is right. your answers are just excuses for bad and lazy machining/engineering and poor production design, very wasteful. use slightly larger/thicker extruded tube, turn down outer, re-bore inner. job done.
@@paulforster6229 Hi Paul, Sorry, but a "slightly thicker tube" does not solve the problem. Partly because the process of making a tube stretches the aluminum locally and partly because we need part of each component to have a small diameter. Of course, we could circumvent the last problem with more threaded joints, but that is not really smarter or better as it introduces new problems of its own. All in all, I actually think we have some general idea of what we are doing. :)
@@NielsenGunPartsDK Making bar stock also introduces 'stretch'. So? Choice of alloys and post processing can deal with 'stretching' etc. I didn't say you don't know what you are doing, overall, I just pointed out I was agreeing about how wasteful your 'solid bar' machining was. And it could easily be revisited and designed out. Pre-drawn/pressed/cast/annealed/aged then machined would be more economical, and deal with the 'small dia' problem, at the expense of probably more operations, but less wasteful of feed-stock. Injection casting is really fast and accurate for pre-forms, minimal post-cast machining deals with the rest of the process. Only two threads per component, and one insert. Less waste; much of which you could re-cycle/re-use on site.
Great Video.... YEARS late, I know but one question; How do they ensure the bore is running true with the axis of the machine when threading the muzzle just by chucking the outside of the barrel? I've been taught to get the bore indicated to within 0.0002" (yes, two tenths) when chambering AND crowning. I've seen bores run way out, when the O.D. of the barrel is running true.....
WIth the typical German (over) engineering involved and the amount of steps and work involved the final product is impressive. I'm surprised it does not double as a microwave generator or cutting laser. James Bond would want one. Its not fair you guys make all the cool stuff. Awesome! Wish I could afford one.
To make it work you must use subsonic ammo otherwise the projectile will break the sound brier . on a .22 rim fire that is the crack you hear when you fie a round !!!!
these are for hunting, so the prey animal will hear the bullet 'crack' but not the muzzle report, thus cannot tell direction of fire/whence it came....so you can shoot a far tree (or with hogs, the furthest hog away), the prey animals (or sounder of hogs) will hear that impact and come toward you offering a better, closer shot.
i hate how perfect everything is! ;) curious tho- no filler rod required on the tig weld? i'm just beginning my tig welding courses and learning- i thought filler was needed for tig- ready to be educated :)
7:19 the smile on the guys face after measuring the threads!!! Give that guy a raise...oh is the brunette with the glasses single? Asking for a friend 😁
they look to be sick mufflers! but where i live, the understanding is... things like that make a firearm a million times more lethal and dangerous... did i mention how silent and ammoless a knife is? and there is a million stores that sell them, i dont know of any place i could purchase a supressor but i am a queenslander, the most oppressive place on the face of the planet!
SA Sportsgood Manufacturing in Adelaide used to make them. I think they are still available in WA. Visit a few good fox shooters and they will let you in on the secret! I used a .22 "flash arrestor" from Adelaide on my Anchutz .22 hornet. Worked exceptionally well specially on a windy night. Good luck!
Hi Tony, The barrel does get crowned, but perhaps it is a little hard to see in the process within the machine. However, the shot were grease is being applied to the thread clearly shows the slight concave crowning. :) The only instance where we do not make a crowning, is when the total length of thw barrel is being retained. In that case the old crowning remains.
Hola. Tengo un aire comprimido de quiebre COMETA, cal. .22 ( 5.5 ) RESORTE. Me interesa un SILENCIADOR para ese Rifle. Donde puedo adquirirlo en la Republica Argentina ???? Gracias. Muy interesante la tecnologia aplicada a su producción. Felicitaciones.
Your factory is so quiet! Get it? But, all joking aside, I appreciate all of the actual hands-on work, and the end product is very good. I'll have to find some vids on their use. Thanx!
+WangHangLow1 I see no one has answered this, and this is a bit late. But better late than never! If you'll notice, the very last operation the lathe does, after threading, is the crowning of the muzzle.
Hi AldoSchmedack, Thanks for an interesting question. The machining times are approximately: 1 minutes per front module (7 total), 3 minutes for the back end, 4 minutes for the inner tube and 30 seconds per insert in the front end pieces. Thus, a total of about 16 minutes and 30 seconds machining time. Assembly adds about 5 minutes of man-hours total. Of course, there's a bit of added handling related to having the pieces anodized by a third party as well. Particularly, the use of hi-tech machinery means that machining can be done largely unsupervised and that tolerances are very precise, thus limiting the need for manual measurements. It all adds up to a rather time-efficient process. I hope this answers your question!
@@NielsenGunPartsDK That is amazing! I never get tired of seeing CNC at work. CNC, auto load, auto measure and auto tool swap have to be the greatest 20th century inventions ever. My 1st supressor should be approved at the begining of the next year. Can't wait to ditch the ear muffs when doing 22lr. TY for the info!
We should have legally available "sound reducers" available to everyone legally allowed to own a firearm here in America. We also need nationwide reciprocity.
@@bearly1727 they only dont exist to certain people in America, in the rest of the world it is a perfectly acceptable term. What is the name of one of the largest producers of silencer's I'm America, what were the ASA called until 2014 ,what was on maxim's patent. It has only recently been an issue because certain people dont like the term silencer, its similar to people saying assault rifles dont exist even when it is used in the correct context.
Do you know anyone in the phillippines or china that seññs the full auto switch for glocks ??? Im trying to get one from china vut I cant find them. They are like $20 in aluminium. Any info i will thank you.
Not sure we're familiar with that particular movie, but we'll take it as a compliment as most of our workforce has been with us from the very beginning. :)
Hi! We are also from Europe - we are a Danish manufacturer and we have distributors in most of Europe (France, Germany, Switzerland, Poland, Norwary, Lithuania and Ireland - and Iceland) and more are coming as silencers become legal to use in more and more countries
Hi ! I'm very impressed with your job . very neat and professional . I have a .22 lr Krico and would like to fit a silencer on it but at the end of the barrel can't thread as there is a front sight . May be you have solution to it e.g muzle adapter . I would be very pleased to hear from you . Thanks .
Thank you for the kind words. On a cal .22 you can move the sight 15 mm back in combination with making the threading. On a larger calibre the sight is removed altogether, as these silencers cover 12 - 14 cm of the end of the barrel. The silencer for a .22Lr only adds forward, therefore the sight just needs to be moved back a bit, as to make room for the threading. Hope this answers your question.
What is the approximate cost to have a .22 WMR Bull barrel threaded.By the way, your operation is stellar. I was amazed at how quickly the barrel got threaded. what was it 53 seconds? Smokin'.
gvet47 There is no "outer housing". Each piece is thredded and screwn together. We use rods rather than tubing due to the varying internal diameters of each segment. Another factor is that the aluminium tubing tend to vary slightly in thickness, making tubes unreliable. Tubes are also less resilliant in manufacturing, often causing problems in unsupervised bar-loaders. Therefore, we have to use rods. Gerry is also right that the price of rods vs tubes is basically equal. But of course we would machine less if possible. I hope this clears up any questions.
HAHA! My wife walked by asking me what I was watching?...I said porn! she grabbed the laptop and saw this video and called me a machining geek! She knows me well... G>
gerry mckown - don’t even insult our intelligence,you were watching Porn and and who doesn’t ? ? - it’s perfectly Normal to want to see a beautiful Nude Woman ! !
I just ordered my sonic for my 30.06 rifle. After watching your vid I have a question. How does it impact the velocity and distance after cutting the barrel 14cm shorter? Surely a longer traveling bullet will be more accurate?
Hi Leon, unfortunately we do not have any hard statistical data to show you. However, it is safe to say from testing that the bullet does not suffer any significant loss of momentum. While the accuracy does drop somewhat this drop is negligble within the distances of hunting and may at most result in a few centimeter of scattering at 300m. Thus you are right; cutting off 14 cm of the barrel does influence the accuracy and momentum of the bullet, but it does so to such a small degree that you would not notice it in an actual hunting situation. Apologies for a slow reply and congratulations with your new silencer, we hope it'll be of good use.
A barrel that is 14cm longer is not really any more accurate, but what the shorter barrel will do is reduce the velocity of the rounds leaving the barrel, therefor reducing it's range, but also increasing the time of travel which also slightly increases the associated effects of wind. However, a shorter barrel is not inherently less accurate then a longer one. If both were fired on a perfect windless range, the only measurable difference would be range.
There can be some loss of distance with a shorter barrel, but it is typically easier to manufacture a short accurate barrel than it is a long accurate barrel. The longer the barrel, the beefier it has to be in order to control barrel whip, these oscillations which are called "harmonics" are easier to control in a shorter barrel. Therefore, all else being equal, the more accurate one, provided the projectile is stabilized properly is the shorter barrel. Length of barrel is not an enhancement to accuracy. It generally provides more speed, therefore more range. Very accurate longer barrels are substantially heavier than shorter ones not just because of length but because of the required increase in diameter necessary to mitigate whip.
I wish we could buy them without needing the tax stamp here in the U.S. There is no reason for it.There safer for your hearing reduce recoil and make shooting a lot more pleasant .
@@richardturner6981 None, it doesn't make a bank sound? I already merely makes a piff sound? Big bullet but no bang, no smoke? Confusing me... all rifles are "air" rifles, it is what makes the "air" or expanding gases that require the sound damping characteristics. I don't know anything about "air" rifles but aren't they driven by compressed air? I guess you could have a "gas" charge that is ignited by a spark making an explosive force... what is the sound level of that type of setup? 80 dB, 120 dB? Is this merely an easy, cheap, way to punch holes in paper? Seriously, I am not making fun of the sport "sounds" as it would be fun with fewer hassles from ATF etc. USe a common propane mixture? I think I've talked myself into checking this out more... to my knowledge people do make a flash suppressor for these types of machines. And anytime something screws onto a barrel it would seem the ATF/BATF would want their $500 and registration assessment... if no one does make them this company might consider making them for the .177 cal. (I don't know the metric of that size).
"A suppressed sound level as the barrel is shrouded and moderated." from the FX Boss .30 cal pcp web site. 870 fps, 80+ lbs of force at the mussel, 40 shots per charge. That sounds like a heck of a lot of fun, 1" grouping at `100 yards... that's better than I can do, my grouping would probably be about an 8-foot grouping at 100 feet.
"and youre not counting on anything here of cures" I don't know what that means. And I beg to differ that you can count on the bore being in the center of the barrel. Form what I understand, it being in the center is not the thing they (barrel manufacturers) worry about the most, it's that it's STRAIGHT. Also, from what I have read, modern barrels DO come with out of concentric bores.
Seth Watson The threading shown in this clip is made on a barrel of recognized quality, in which the bore is both straight and concentric. However it is correct that there are barrels of lesser quality and manufacture, in which the bore may be excentric, and occasionally even slightly curved. These barrels are controlled and centerede prior to threading. Furtheremore, all barrels are visually inspected after the threading. Concentricity (or excentricity) can, with experience, be determined by looking through the bore. It is worth mentioning that less than 1 in 100 barrels are so poorly centerede that they require adjustment. These statements, and the statistics, are based on well beyond 3000 mountings of rifles of varying manufacturer and quality. As an added safety precaution, the diameter of the internal hole of the silencer is made 1 mm larger than the diameter of the caliber for which it is sold. Thus even if the bore should be excentric in such a slight degree that it is not apparently visible, the added diameter will allow for the projectile to clear the silencer. Thank you for pointing this out for clarification. Kind regards.
Hello i have a Sonic 35 but i have no Key to be able to strip the sound moderator where can i buy such a tool ?, I have the 35 on my cz527v 17Hornet and i am very impressed with it .
Hi Manchap karM, we're very happy to hear that you are pleased with your silencer. A key should be available who the vendor who sold you the silencer, or at least they can order them from us. They can also order the heat-resistant sealant paste we use for the threading. Can I ask why you want to take it apart? We dont generally recommend it.
Thank you i bought it second hand and i really just wanted to clean it , not sure how many rounds it has had through it . Many thanks for your reply , I have tested this Sonic 35 against a couple of other sound moderators and been down range of them all the sonic came out the best and quietest. Thanks for a great product .
@@manchapkarm3626 Thanks, it's great that you compared it with other products available! Regarding maintenance, we recommend unscrewing the silencer from your rifle and giving the silencer a light spray of WD40 in the backend. For cleaning, shooting enough rounds on a shooting range for it to become hot will generally burn off most soot inside it. Of course, you should not fire excessive rounds - just enough for it to become hot.
Absolute crap blast suppressor! We here in america make the best there is in the world hands down! Ask anyone that actually use them everyday! Thats the real ticket right there.
Hi Robert, Excellent that you take pride in your country. However, independent tests do usually rank our products fairly high. Combine this with our close to unequivocal positive customer feedback and I do dare say that our products are far from "crap". Though, untill it is possible to import our products to the U. S. we will not be able to let the U. S. customers speak for themselves. We do, however, often get e-mails from U. S. citizens who tried our products in other countries, asking if if we can ship silencers to the U. S. :)
Hi Apollo Abao, If silencers are legal in the Phillipines it would certainly be possible to export them. But without a general importer of a larger quantity, it would be very expensive in shipping. Many times the value of the silencer itself.
Hi Naaz, thanks for the question. In order to sell a silencer to a foreign reciever, a gun dealers license is required. In addition, an import permit from the receving country and an export permit from Denmark is also needed. (Even if you pick up the silencer directly from us..) In sum, unfortunately, it is a little complicated to sell silencers as many governments seem to find them to be very dangerous..
+duffys gunsmithing Thank you very much. "The older gentlemen", he wont hear the end of this! Indeed, unfortunately US laws make the modular design extraordinarily expensive, as each segment requires a separate serial no. and permit.
steveday72 Possibly the same way Glock was able to release the 42 in the U.S. to civilians, they make them in Georgia. Same goes with all the companies making modular suppressors here like AAC, Silencer Co, etc. they are made here so it's different, assuming I am correct.
Tony Botha Understandable, but if this isn't done, the total length becomes unweilding. It has very little impact on speed nor accuracy and is, I dare say, standard practice.
Hi "Fat Tuesday", Our Subsonic 22 weighs about 123 grams. Sadly, the modular design makes it impossible to operate on the American market. Hopefully, it will be possible in the future.
I tell yah, as a Canadian working in a tool room and total gun nut, this was like PORN to me I couldn't get my cellphone close enough to my face. Beautiful work crew you have, really nice you're keeping people working. Amazing and I could only WISH
I have a Sonic 45 on my .308 and a 35 on my .22 - Absolutely love the quality of the construction and the performance.
It's cool that James May found a job assembling silencers after the Grand Tour...
You know when the music starts playing and your cutting, it is going to be some cool stuff......
What I find beside the beauty of the machining and the quality product in the end is the awesome fact that the man in the wheelchair is capable of, AND doing MORE, than many I know who have ZERO inhibitions, Sadly, they have chosen to do nothing but wait for a FREE RIDE.
YOU my friend are a fantastic human being and a great worker, an asset to the company by all means ! Kudos to you....
Hi Dave,
You'll be glad to hear that he is actually the designer, engineer, machinist and manager of the company.
@@NielsenGunPartsDK That is fantastic ! Just watching the video, you can see (and feel) his determination, machine know how and ability to do ANYTHING, he wishes to do. He has my utmost respect as does the company and workers. You have a great captain in the wheelhouse ! Maybe if I start saving now, I can afford one of his designs down the road.
Thoroughly enjoyed watching! It is such a pity that Australian laws prohibit these excellent products you produce. I am glad that I have one on my firearm in N.Z.
You guys are flat out perfectionists! I’d feel proud to purchase one or more of your units!
Great video. Very Professional. I enjoy seeing Lady workers and older Gentlemen working for your company. Thank you.
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Beautiful machining and impressive design. I wish I could get one into the USA.
Thank you that was unexpectedly calming and satisfying. And a great product.
Bellssimo Video con macchinari d'avanguardia.
Complimenti!
Hey guys Ray from Thunder Beast Arms here in the USA. Cool video
Hi Ray, glad you like the video. Thanks for stopping by.
@@NielsenGunPartsDK hai I'm from Philippines I want to buy silencer of R4 RIFFLE korean model 5.56 mm bullet ... I'm a soldier I need it ASAP.. how much I pay?? I hope it's not so expensive 😣😣..
So cool watching this guy work nice art to have .
Whoops lady to.
Just bought mine here in New Zealand can't wait to take it shooting!
ਬਹੁਤ ਵਧੀਆ ਅਤੇ ਸ਼ਾਨਦਾਰ ਵੀਡੀਓ ਹੈ
Mi meraviglia che con tutti questi macchinari non teniate in conto che lo paro è una espansione globulare
E che dopo lo svuotamento della canna vi sia il ritorno di riempimento fino alla apertura dell' otturatore
It’s sad that it’s next to impossible to get a firearm in Europe, but no issue to get a suppressor. While it’s next to impossible to get a suppressor in the States, but no issue to get the firearm. Come on Governor Abbot! Sign that suppressor bill!
Great video, too bad I’ll probably never get a chance to buy one. Love the design.
Thank you 😊
The mfg in the next town over uses Haas CNCs exclusively and a monocore design.....
Anyway after retiring from programming/running machines for 30 years, this was fun to watch.
es de alta perfeccion vuestro trabajo los felicito un saludo desde Chile un cazador ,una consulta tienen algun distribuidor en Chile ?????
Great machines and super amazing.
Got to love cnc machines!
Problem with CNC, like all computers, Garbage in, Garbage out. But this setup looks effective. So why turn round stock into tubes? Material, time and energy waste.
Dear Bryan,
Sorry for this late reply. We use rods rather than tubes for several reasons. One reason is that tubes tend to vary slightly in thickness, increasing the risk of the suppressor rupturing. By machining out a rod, we have total control of material strength through uniformity.
Another reason is that the internal diameter of each segment vary greatly. One end of a segment has a vary large diameter, where the other end is rather narrow. This can be seen in the video as well.
We are therefore not just mindlessly machining away aluminium for the sake of it, but because it, unfortunately, is necessary for a functionally great design with a rather low weight (many of our supressors are below 400 grams)
I hope this answers your question.
@@NielsenGunPartsDK bryan s martin is right. your answers are just excuses for bad and lazy machining/engineering and poor production design, very wasteful. use slightly larger/thicker extruded tube, turn down outer, re-bore inner. job done.
@@paulforster6229 Hi Paul,
Sorry, but a "slightly thicker tube" does not solve the problem. Partly because the process of making a tube stretches the aluminum locally and partly because we need part of each component to have a small diameter. Of course, we could circumvent the last problem with more threaded joints, but that is not really smarter or better as it introduces new problems of its own.
All in all, I actually think we have some general idea of what we are doing. :)
@@NielsenGunPartsDK Making bar stock also introduces 'stretch'. So? Choice of alloys and post processing can deal with 'stretching' etc. I didn't say you don't know what you are doing, overall, I just pointed out I was agreeing about how wasteful your 'solid bar' machining was. And it could easily be revisited and designed out.
Pre-drawn/pressed/cast/annealed/aged then machined would be more economical, and deal with the 'small dia' problem, at the expense of probably more operations, but less wasteful of feed-stock. Injection casting is really fast and accurate for pre-forms, minimal post-cast machining deals with the rest of the process. Only two threads per component, and one insert. Less waste; much of which you could re-cycle/re-use on site.
Great Video.... YEARS late, I know but one question; How do they ensure the bore is running true with the axis of the machine when threading the muzzle just by chucking the outside of the barrel? I've been taught to get the bore indicated to within 0.0002" (yes, two tenths) when chambering AND crowning. I've seen bores run way out, when the O.D. of the barrel is running true.....
WIth the typical German (over) engineering involved and the amount of steps and work involved the final product is impressive. I'm surprised it does not double as a microwave generator or cutting laser. James Bond would want one. Its not fair you guys make all the cool stuff. Awesome! Wish I could afford one.
To make it work you must use subsonic ammo otherwise the projectile will break the sound brier . on a .22 rim fire that is the crack you hear when you fie a round !!!!
these are for hunting, so the prey animal will hear the bullet 'crack' but not the muzzle report, thus cannot tell direction of fire/whence it came....so you can shoot a far tree (or with hogs, the furthest hog away), the prey animals (or sounder of hogs) will hear that impact and come toward you offering a better, closer shot.
i hate how perfect everything is! ;) curious tho- no filler rod required on the tig weld? i'm just beginning my tig welding courses and learning- i thought filler was needed for tig- ready to be educated :)
He's just fusing the parts together but u probably already know this if the 2 surfaces are together that close u don't need filler
7:19 the smile on the guys face after measuring the threads!!! Give that guy a raise...oh is the brunette with the glasses single? Asking for a friend 😁
A very late reply: The guy measuring the threads is the CEO, the brunette is his wife, sorry :)
they look to be sick mufflers! but where i live, the understanding is... things like that make a firearm a million times more lethal and dangerous... did i mention how silent and ammoless a knife is? and there is a million stores that sell them, i dont know of any place i could purchase a supressor but i am a queenslander, the most oppressive place on the face of the planet!
SA Sportsgood Manufacturing in Adelaide used to make them. I think they are still available in WA. Visit a few good fox shooters and they will let you in on the secret! I used a .22 "flash arrestor" from Adelaide on my Anchutz .22 hornet. Worked exceptionally well specially on a windy night. Good luck!
Its awesome what technology can do.
Can't believe you don't crown the bore after cutting it..
Hi Tony,
The barrel does get crowned, but perhaps it is a little hard to see in the process within the machine. However, the shot were grease is being applied to the thread clearly shows the slight concave crowning. :)
The only instance where we do not make a crowning, is when the total length of thw barrel is being retained. In that case the old crowning remains.
Hola. Tengo un aire comprimido de quiebre COMETA, cal. .22 ( 5.5 ) RESORTE. Me interesa un SILENCIADOR para ese Rifle. Donde puedo adquirirlo en la Republica Argentina ????
Gracias.
Muy interesante la tecnologia aplicada a su producción. Felicitaciones.
Nice place to work
Very impressive
To make it realy quiet use subsonic ammo CCI 610 ft. per sec .
How much the price of your sonic silencer pls give me an idea,,
Your factory is so quiet! Get it? But, all joking aside, I appreciate all of the actual hands-on work, and the end product is very good. I'll have to find some vids on their use. Thanx!
Were silencers not forbidden in the USA..or was it an other country.. Would be nice to some awards winning data..like Decibel tests and compare
Question: I noticed you didn't crown your barrel... Has that affected the accuracy of the rifle with and without a suppressor?
The crowning was done at 6:51-6:55
+WangHangLow1 I see no one has answered this, and this is a bit late.
But better late than never!
If you'll notice, the very last operation the lathe does, after threading,
is the crowning of the muzzle.
Muy buen video, les agradezco
Desable reduction test would be nice.
Very nice video !!!
I wont buy one silencer.. how i order.. how much.. silencer 45 Gun
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Very cool
How long does it take to make one of these when you add up all the processes involved?
Hi AldoSchmedack,
Thanks for an interesting question. The machining times are approximately: 1 minutes per front module (7 total), 3 minutes for the back end, 4 minutes for the inner tube and 30 seconds per insert in the front end pieces. Thus, a total of about 16 minutes and 30 seconds machining time. Assembly adds about 5 minutes of man-hours total. Of course, there's a bit of added handling related to having the pieces anodized by a third party as well.
Particularly, the use of hi-tech machinery means that machining can be done largely unsupervised and that tolerances are very precise, thus limiting the need for manual measurements. It all adds up to a rather time-efficient process.
I hope this answers your question!
@@NielsenGunPartsDK That is amazing! I never get tired of seeing CNC at work. CNC, auto load, auto measure and auto tool swap have to be the greatest 20th century inventions ever. My 1st supressor should be approved at the begining of the next year. Can't wait to ditch the ear muffs when doing 22lr. TY for the info!
We should have legally available "sound reducers" available to everyone legally allowed to own a firearm here in America. We also need nationwide reciprocity.
Do you mean "Silencer's"?
@@jizzmonkey9679 I used the term used in the video and the correct term used in America is Suppressors. Silencers really don't exist.
@@bearly1727 they only dont exist to certain people in America, in the rest of the world it is a perfectly acceptable term.
What is the name of one of the largest producers of silencer's I'm America, what were the ASA called until 2014 ,what was on maxim's patent.
It has only recently been an issue because certain people dont like the term silencer, its similar to people saying assault rifles dont exist even when it is used in the correct context.
How much the 1 silencer... how to order.. from philippines.
How can i get one for my 5.56 bolt action?
From Philippines i am.
Thanks!
Do you know anyone in the phillippines or china that seññs the full auto switch for glocks ??? Im trying to get one from china vut I cant find them. They are like $20 in aluminium. Any info i will thank you.
Happy workers! Just like the workforce in the film Mousehunt !
Not sure we're familiar with that particular movie, but we'll take it as a compliment as most of our workforce has been with us from the very beginning. :)
@@NielsenGunPartsDK hola quisiera saber el precio de un silenciador cal 22LR
Would the sonic35 suit a .308win rifle?
Where is this available. Im in europe !!!! 👌👌👌👌👌👌👌
Hi!
We are also from Europe - we are a Danish manufacturer and we have distributors in most of Europe (France, Germany, Switzerland, Poland, Norwary, Lithuania and Ireland - and Iceland) and more are coming as silencers become legal to use in more and more countries
@@NielsenGunPartsDK do you have this pice ??? The glk switch ???
@@NielsenGunPartsDK Im looking for the pice in the video and also for the full auto switch for glock.
How much the price? Can i buy? Watching from Philippines.
Can I order it in parts and assemble by myself?
How is this a silencer?
Wow.. amazing
Hi ! I'm very impressed with your job . very neat and professional . I have a .22 lr Krico and would like to fit a silencer on it but at the end of the barrel can't thread as there is a front sight . May be you have solution to it e.g muzle adapter .
I would be very pleased to hear from you .
Thanks .
Thank you for the kind words.
On a cal .22 you can move the sight 15 mm back in combination with making the threading. On a larger calibre the sight is removed altogether, as these silencers cover 12 - 14 cm of the end of the barrel.
The silencer for a .22Lr only adds forward, therefore the sight just needs to be moved back a bit, as to make room for the threading.
Hope this answers your question.
What is the approximate cost to have a .22 WMR Bull barrel threaded.By the way, your operation is stellar. I was amazed at how quickly the barrel got threaded. what was it 53 seconds? Smokin'.
omg , youve got Rick Wakeman screwing silencers together ,,,
I hope, guy on TIG welding operation got good protective gloves and ventilation :)
He should be wearing a "Tig Finger". Or two.
Where can these be purchased in the USA?
Interesting the outer housing is machined from a solid rod rather than a DOM tube.
Tubing cut to I.D, and O,D, is more pricey then solid bar stock....crazy, but true at times!
gvet47 There is no "outer housing". Each piece is thredded and screwn together. We use rods rather than tubing due to the varying internal diameters of each segment. Another factor is that the aluminium tubing tend to vary slightly in thickness, making tubes unreliable. Tubes are also less resilliant in manufacturing, often causing problems in unsupervised bar-loaders.
Therefore, we have to use rods. Gerry is also right that the price of rods vs tubes is basically equal. But of course we would machine less if possible.
I hope this clears up any questions.
Sonic Silencers just liked watching anything being manufactured so thanks for your comments.
HAHA! My wife walked by asking me what I was watching?...I said porn! she grabbed the laptop and saw this video and called me a machining geek! She knows me well... G>
gerry mckown - don’t even insult our intelligence,you were watching Porn and and who doesn’t ? ? - it’s perfectly Normal to want to see a beautiful Nude Woman ! !
Boa tarde..... tenho um rifle 17 hmr e preciso de um silencioso. como faço para adquirir?
Can you build me a silencer for my mother in law?
I just ordered my sonic for my 30.06 rifle. After watching your vid I have a question. How does it impact the velocity and distance after cutting the barrel 14cm shorter? Surely a longer traveling bullet will be more accurate?
Hi Leon, unfortunately we do not have any hard statistical data to show you. However, it is safe to say from testing that the bullet does not suffer any significant loss of momentum. While the accuracy does drop somewhat this drop is negligble within the distances of hunting and may at most result in a few centimeter of scattering at 300m.
Thus you are right; cutting off 14 cm of the barrel does influence the accuracy and momentum of the bullet, but it does so to such a small degree that you would not notice it in an actual hunting situation.
Apologies for a slow reply and congratulations with your new silencer, we hope it'll be of good use.
A barrel that is 14cm longer is not really any more accurate, but what the shorter barrel will do is reduce the velocity of the rounds leaving the barrel, therefor reducing it's range, but also increasing the time of travel which also slightly increases the associated effects of wind. However, a shorter barrel is not inherently less accurate then a longer one. If both were fired on a perfect windless range, the only measurable difference would be range.
There can be some loss of distance with a shorter barrel, but it is typically easier to manufacture a short accurate barrel than it is a long accurate barrel. The longer the barrel, the beefier it has to be in order to control barrel whip, these oscillations which are called "harmonics" are easier to control in a shorter barrel. Therefore, all else being equal, the more accurate one, provided the projectile is stabilized properly is the shorter barrel. Length of barrel is not an enhancement to accuracy. It generally provides more speed, therefore more range. Very accurate longer barrels are substantially heavier than shorter ones not just because of length but because of the required increase in diameter necessary to mitigate whip.
With a conventional suppressor it actually increases fps
Where can i order and how much for .45 and M4?
I wish we could buy them without needing the tax stamp here in the U.S. There is no reason for it.There safer for your hearing reduce recoil and make shooting a lot more pleasant .
I need one for Benjamin Discovery do you have one
How much the silencer
What kind would I need if I have a FX boss .30 cal pcp air rifle?
Contact Crosman BB and Pellet pistols and rifles. I don't know if they sell them but, they can point you in the right direction i'm sure.
@@richardturner6981 None, it doesn't make a bank sound? I already merely makes a piff sound? Big bullet but no bang, no smoke? Confusing me... all rifles are "air" rifles, it is what makes the "air" or expanding gases that require the sound damping characteristics. I don't know anything about "air" rifles but aren't they driven by compressed air? I guess you could have a "gas" charge that is ignited by a spark making an explosive force... what is the sound level of that type of setup? 80 dB, 120 dB? Is this merely an easy, cheap, way to punch holes in paper? Seriously, I am not making fun of the sport "sounds" as it would be fun with fewer hassles from ATF etc. USe a common propane mixture? I think I've talked myself into checking this out more... to my knowledge people do make a flash suppressor for these types of machines. And anytime something screws onto a barrel it would seem the ATF/BATF would want their $500 and registration assessment... if no one does make them this company might consider making them for the .177 cal. (I don't know the metric of that size).
"A suppressed sound level as the barrel is shrouded and moderated." from the FX Boss .30 cal pcp web site. 870 fps, 80+ lbs of force at the mussel, 40 shots per charge. That sounds like a heck of a lot of fun, 1" grouping at `100 yards... that's better than I can do, my grouping would probably be about an 8-foot grouping at 100 feet.
How to purchase?
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When they threaded the barrel, I didn't see them check the concentricity of the bore...
That is not the proper way. You cannot count on the bore being in the center of the barrel.
They had no problems with that so far, and youre not counting on anything here ofcures morden barrels are in center.
"and youre not counting on anything here of cures"
I don't know what that means. And I beg to differ that you can count on the bore being in the center of the barrel. Form what I understand, it being in the center is not the thing they (barrel manufacturers) worry about the most, it's that it's STRAIGHT. Also, from what I have read, modern barrels DO come with out of concentric bores.
Seth Watson
The threading shown in this clip is made on a barrel of recognized quality, in which the bore is both straight and concentric. However it is correct that there are barrels of lesser quality and manufacture, in which the bore may be excentric, and occasionally even slightly curved.
These barrels are controlled and centerede prior to threading. Furtheremore, all barrels are visually inspected after the threading. Concentricity (or excentricity) can, with experience, be determined by looking through the bore.
It is worth mentioning that less than 1 in 100 barrels are so poorly centerede that they require adjustment.
These statements, and the statistics, are based on well beyond 3000 mountings of rifles of varying manufacturer and quality.
As an added safety precaution, the diameter of the internal hole of the silencer is made 1 mm larger than the diameter of the caliber for which it is sold. Thus even if the bore should be excentric in such a slight degree that it is not apparently visible, the added diameter will allow for the projectile to clear the silencer.
Thank you for pointing this out for clarification.
Kind regards.
Ah. Very good, QC before the fact....
Hello i have a Sonic 35 but i have no Key to be able to strip the sound moderator where can i buy such a tool ?, I have the 35 on my cz527v 17Hornet and i am very impressed with it .
Hi Manchap karM, we're very happy to hear that you are pleased with your silencer. A key should be available who the vendor who sold you the silencer, or at least they can order them from us. They can also order the heat-resistant sealant paste we use for the threading. Can I ask why you want to take it apart? We dont generally recommend it.
Thank you i bought it second hand and i really just wanted to clean it , not sure how many rounds it has had through it .
Many thanks for your reply , I have tested this Sonic 35 against a couple of other sound moderators and been down range of them all the sonic came out the best and quietest.
Thanks for a great product .
@@manchapkarm3626 Thanks, it's great that you compared it with other products available! Regarding maintenance, we recommend unscrewing the silencer from your rifle and giving the silencer a light spray of WD40 in the backend. For cleaning, shooting enough rounds on a shooting range for it to become hot will generally burn off most soot inside it. Of course, you should not fire excessive rounds - just enough for it to become hot.
Thank you i never fire that many to get it hot
How can i buy this online and how much?
Depends where you live
Absolute crap blast suppressor! We here in america make the best there is in the world hands down! Ask anyone that actually use them everyday! Thats the real ticket right there.
Hi Robert,
Excellent that you take pride in your country. However, independent tests do usually rank our products fairly high. Combine this with our close to unequivocal positive customer feedback and I do dare say that our products are far from "crap".
Though, untill it is possible to import our products to the U. S. we will not be able to let the U. S. customers speak for themselves. We do, however, often get e-mails from U. S. citizens who tried our products in other countries, asking if if we can ship silencers to the U. S. :)
What material aluminum you use?
Can this Sonic Silencer be transported in the Philippines?
Hi Apollo Abao,
If silencers are legal in the Phillipines it would certainly be possible to export them. But without a general importer of a larger quantity, it would be very expensive in shipping. Many times the value of the silencer itself.
Is..... ( ...... ) exellent.......!!!
I have one and its same product of U.S cal.45.
Better than a cabbage !
Wow wow wow
excelent work, man,you got name?
Vende para o Brasil?
Qual o valor?
Any links about cleaning the sonic ????
how could i get one out of your country? is their any procedure ?
Hi Naaz, thanks for the question. In order to sell a silencer to a foreign reciever, a gun dealers license is required. In addition, an import permit from the receving country and an export permit from Denmark is also needed. (Even if you pick up the silencer directly from us..)
In sum, unfortunately, it is a little complicated to sell silencers as many governments seem to find them to be very dangerous..
Wish I own one..
Bendangwati Longkumer - buy one or make one i did.on RUclips there are tutorial on ‘ How To ‘ about silencers,and just about everything else ! !
How can i purchase
QUERO UM DESTE PARA MINHA CBC 22
Youa'll spell length differently than where I come from...Just say'in.
no sonic silencers for you usa : ( awesome video !! would have nice to see the older gentlemen testfire at the end.
+duffys gunsmithing Thank you very much. "The older gentlemen", he wont hear the end of this!
Indeed, unfortunately US laws make the modular design extraordinarily expensive, as each segment requires a separate serial no. and permit.
+Sonic Silencers I wonder how Silencerco got around that with their modular shotgun suppressor? (the Salvo 12)
Rugged Suppressors as well.
steveday72 Possibly the same way Glock was able to release the 42 in the U.S. to civilians, they make them in Georgia. Same goes with all the companies making modular suppressors here like AAC, Silencer Co, etc. they are made here so it's different, assuming I am correct.
You're completely wrong Duffy. Silencers are legal in 40 states.
Suppressor
i need it for benjamín Discovery 177 from mexico
If they cut off that much from my gun's barrel I will have a heart attack
Tony Botha Understandable, but if this isn't done, the total length becomes unweilding. It has very little impact on speed nor accuracy and is, I dare say, standard practice.
Hm your R4 silencer?
Wow
HOW MUCH 22CL.
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What is the weight of the .22 airgun x 28 thread model? And is there a retail outlet in the USA?
Hi "Fat Tuesday",
Our Subsonic 22 weighs about 123 grams. Sadly, the modular design makes it impossible to operate on the American market. Hopefully, it will be possible in the future.
I need it for saiga niner...5.45 in ak 47 shape...
good