Douglas Murray: The Dangerous Weaponisation of Identity-Based Grievances
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- Опубликовано: 22 май 2024
- (2020 interview)
Videography by Wild Rice Films.
Douglas Murray discusses the dangerous weaponisation of identity-based grievances in today’s society. This interview, conducted by Inaya Folarin Iman, took place in the aftermath of the George Floyd killing, as protests erupted all over the world. He argues that the dominant narrative of Western society as fundamentally negative stems from a misunderstanding of history. Murray also contends that there is a quasi-religious fervour in society, with attempts to create a new religion and enforce it in the public square.
Douglas Murray is a British author, conservative political commentator, and podcast host.
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We had this conversation with Douglas Murray in 2020. Has anything changed or improved since then? Let us know in the comments. 👇👇
@theequianoproject and @ada, things are much worse now. The UK has specific problems that other countries do not have. The UK has been the 2nd slowest growing economy in Europe and one of the slowest growing economies in the world per capita since 2008. The UK suffers from massive brain drain. 83% of foreign students leave Britain within 5 years of arriving with a much higher percentage of foreign students leaving Britain over the long term. Britain has a hard time retaining talented immigrants long term. Plus many multi-generational Britons are leaving for foreign opportunities. The UK has a lower per capita income than African Americans and South Koreans. The UK's share of global income and wealth are dropping very fast.
The UK is rapidly in the process of being economically dominated by foreigners, immigrants and BAME. Ethnic English don't have any "privilege" in Britain, and do worse than Nigerian Britons and Ghanaian Britons.
Ethnic English need to stop talking about their non existent privilege and start discussing how to achieve perfection, excellence, competence, capacity, values. So do British people in general. This would be a far more useful conversation and prism than the current woke orthodoxy in the UK.
I also hope the ethnic English humble themselves and study successful people around the world; be inspired by them and learn from them.
It always bothers me when clips of old videos are proposed as new. I'd like to see the date of recording in the first words of the title. It's especially important to do that in this case as Murray's views continue to evolve as does the info we have got about the death of Floyd. The value of this clip is now historical, one link in a chain, it isn't a new development.
@@anomietoponymie2140 Wasn't the fact that this clip was from 2020 clearly described?
No, in my guess, only 10% of the people in the U.S. understand this. Maybe in the U.K because it is smaller population and they have the BBC they do, in the U.S we havent because there is no method to communicate truth/wisdom and no way to transcend pluralism unless the elites choose to give up power, - stop weponizing this meme, in which they will not. Good clip despite being 4 years old. Thanks
Its getting worse this idiology since Douglas Murray said this and spreading like a virus all over western society. Very dangerous for all of us in the west.
Douglas Murray. One of the few men who has the ability to impart to people in a way they can understand without the feeling of being talked down to. Regards Sir.
And yet many still don't get it,
none so blind as those who will not see !!
Jesus will OPEN their eyes!!
He’s looking at the trees and not the forest. These patterns r old and have been successful elsewhere. That’s how some of the izzl@m!st countries have been created.
@@th...........7793douglas do be an atheist be so for real
Yes, he should be knighted .
And I hope he shall be .
I love Douglas Murray❤. He is one of the few people talking sense..
Yes, only one of a few! But, we'll take him! He is an absolutely lovely man❤💯
Douglas Murray knows to put into words what most reasonable people understand but can't articulate as brilliantly, that's why it's so important to listen to him.
It really isn’t. He is a pompous arrogant apologist for baby starving and mass murder. His latest ludicrous claim is that Israel is letting plenty of aid into Gaza, but Hamas are stealing it all. He’s an utter charlatan with a posh accent which fools people into thinking he must be intelligent.
x1,000 Likes!
Would you be as enthusiastic if he was a lefty?😉
Exactly..
Nah. He is mediocre at best.
Douglas Murray is such an eloquent speaker and elegant thinker. Such a man should be in a national leadership role. Puts our politicians to shame
Douglas has been talking about these issues earlier than most, and his opinion has been becoming more and more true and visible to others. I have noticed his tone hardening and you can image it would if you had been warning for 10 years or so...
@stevejhkhfda. Totally agree.We have been ruled by incompetents for far too long who are self serving to the detriment of the people and the country.
He seems to be exactly the same as what he talks about - an equivocal paradox
@@noamanpatel3784t there is nothing paradoxical about Murray. The only thing paradoxical is the woke liberal fascist left.
He’s talking bullshit, he just does it in a posh voice and confidently. The statistics show overwhelmingly that British and American institutions discriminated against those with darker skin. Fact. Things have improved, but he’s the one weaponising history. I’m not saying people should be prosecuting others in victimhood, but these extremists are very very few and he’s largely cherry picking.
The videography is wonderful. Subscribed.
Thank you for interviewing Douglas, his level of understanding is precious right now.
Thomas sowell (black scholar) is a great advocate of these issues. Facts above ideology.
You mean the George W Bush apologist? 😂
Actual one of the smartest people in recent memory, I wouldn't be so quick to categorize him either, as his logic is as sound as it comes.@@epicphailure88
I wish the Sowell cult could keep it shut for 5 minutes.
@@oraz. Read some of his books, then you can make stupid comments...
Yes he is fantastic also.
The George Floyd circus convinced me that those promoting it can never be dealt with rationally and that it is us or them.
Agree
Spot on.
If you watch "The Fall of Minneapolis" documentary you will learn the facts about the George Floyd incident, including the pathologist's autopsy findings.
Watching a policeman strangle a blackman for 8 mins to death was bound to cause outrage. The idea that a man with another man's knee on his neck saying "I can't breathe" died of anything other than strangulation is how racism works. We watch the man be strangled and people will believe it was the drugs to dismiss a very clear reality.
George Floyd was a dispicable criminal..fullstop
Douglas Murray - A beacon of hope in an insane world.
You are right
But your words are very hard
I hope you do understand that many other people from all around the world are also watching and agreeing to to what he is saying?
Douglas Murray is sharp as a razor's edge. Love listening to his discussions.
Douglas Murray is a great Englishman.
Great man....across all boundaries...and for the ages!!!😊
All I can say is . . . thank god for Douglas Murray! If only our leaders were as intelligent and had as much moral clarity as him.
ehhhhhhhnnnnnn, wrong. Douglas Murray DOES nothing but discuss, analyze & judge ideas, perspectives, and the actions of others; and he does so very intelligently. However, leaders make decisions & take ACTION, knowing that whatever idea may have motivated those actions will not fully come to fruition. Stop trying to motivate yourself to act by having the "right idea" beforehand. Take action and you'll FEEL better afterwards, regardless of what illusions occupy your conscious mind.
There is more wisdom in your body than in your deepest philosophy.
@@Sweethands4ennnnnnnnannnd, you're wrong...😃
Douglas is an educated and articulate man. Erudite and compelling. He articulates perfectly what a great many people will be thinking.
I have been saying this for over 50 years and so did Douglas, who is a modern day visionary, a great man off the people
He’s gay. His complaining about identity politics when his sexuality is the source of the sexuality/gender identity politics atom bomb.
I love this channel. Addresses the destruction of our society, a serious crisis that needs to be talked about.
Your concerns sound a little... Identity based
My sister in the 70/80’s was told by her teacher that don’t worry too much about history it’s not going to help you in your future life. WHAT! When my sister told me she could call her teacher by his first name I knew this was a downward spiral. What a lucky young lady to be able to interview Douglas Murray I hope she knows that. I must say he looks very tired , I do hope he isn’t overdoing it
Douglas Murray is one of the smartest people alive at this time and I hope that he is recorded for being an influence on future thinkers.
Douglas Murray is amazing!!
So smart....
Glad so many of us think the same
He really isn't.
Sooo depressing to listen to. He just whines on and on and on.
@@brooshabab He just tells the truth on depressing subjects. Go watch a comedy.
A soaring mind, an encyclopaedic knowledge, an eloquent tongue and a ferocious spirit. What better man could you have on your side than the great Douglas Murray?
Victor Davis Hanson is incredible also
As a bonus, the Left LOATHE him. :-)
Absolutely!😊❤
@@benniemilleryes, he is, as well! Love him, also❤😊
Douglas is that rare and precious thing: a highly intelligent, articulate voice in an era overwhelmed by vociferous lobbying by the ignorant, shouty people.
We have had right wing PMs for fourteen years, why on earth do we need another?
The use of claims of colonialism, racism or islamophobia is used to silence objections to violent protests.
This is a legitimate issue, but it is being used to change society.
It’s been used before successfully by them. This will b no different because mobocracy always wins against democracy
You continue to support a false left/right dialectic. It’s not left verses right but an integration and a cohesion. Left and right come out of the French Revolution and the aim seems to be to support division and control.
And "anti-semitism" is used to shut down all legitimate discussion of genocide.
The great replacement theory is also identity based.
Left and right do the same.
@@TheSupahJawsAnti-Semitism long predates any response to the rape, murder and kidnapping of Israeli citizens by fanatical Islamic paramilitary groups.
It is definitely social re-Engineering
We need more people like him. There's too much instability and division to fight alone. More people need to stand up.
As always Douglas can see it before anyone else
That's debatable. Some of us had these sentiments before he was born.
Thank you Douglas Murray. Bright light in these dark times. 🇮🇱
Douglas Murray is a hero in our time.
Those ppl don’t actually HAVE grievances, they make them up.
Yes, this is actually very true. I don’t necessarily think it’s a will power, but I did think it’s a narcissism to power
Its not as simple as they they make them up, they are TAUGHT this mentality. It's rife in universities that certain groups are victims and certain people are victimised, oppressors etc. When you try to pin them down to actual examples or their own LIVED real life experiences they cry often go blank, but getting them to deeply believe some of what's put out there is a dangerous way of using people as weapons.
Probably the most inane comment I have read for years
No, they were taught. Telling you by whom is now against the law.
This is how racism works. Denial and refusal to acknowledge genuine grievances. Some may be wrong but dismissing it all in the face of clear disparities is denial.
Exactly. We must not allow the zealots to take over. It's such a pleasure to hear an intelligent measured person speak, thank you.
You're a bit behind my friend. They HAVE taken over all institutions in all western countries.
Too late. Herbert Marcuse's "long march through the institutions" has come to fruition.
Thank you God for bringing intelligence via this man and very few others that can make sense of this now brutal world.
❤
Nothing to do with your imaginary friend.
The man is a bigoted oaf
Religion is man made and it DEFINITELY shows.
Identitarianism is the new religion
... obsessed with pride and power.
And will-power versus logos.
Magic is generally not good.
Dignity and peace die.
It's actually narcissism hiding behind identities.
Gay marriage started this dissolution of society ,😮
No it isn't. Totalitarianism is implied with most religions (because it claims to know the Truth). The new religion is in fact being Woke.
Our modern-day Churchill, Douglas - never stop speaking your truth. We love you... ❤ 🇿🇦
Not 'your'....it's 'THE' truth!
His thoughts; he makes them utterly clear. A very respectful conversation between two highly intelligent people.
How I would love Douglas to be the British prime minister.. we can only dream 😢
I love listening to Douglas Murray.
What's most amazing about this conversation is that there is no reference to the 'current thing', i.e. transgender. How in such a short time this issue has become so overwhelming in the public debate!
It was an issue in many places in 2019 and 2020. Maybe less so in Britain?
Critical Queer Theory - more Marxist bullshit. Most of the advocates of these movements have no idea of the actual Marxist roots of "Woke" crap.
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They are less than 1 o/o of our population but people are getting cancelled for speaking up for their ideas
A hero n worrior of our time: Douglas Murray.
This mans insight is exceptional Douglas interviewed in 2020. He is on the money today ❤❤❤
"Has anything changed or improved since then?" I would say yes. Since Oct. 7, the new religion activists have had a spotlight on them. I think another Floyd-like activist movement may be much less likely to occur since there is quite a bit of disgust for activism I see around me. The activists are still ignorant and outraged, but it is going a bit of style I suspect.
I think the west has abandoned the teachings of Jesus Christ and has left a void. This void is being filled with Islam.
@therighteous. We don’t need religion. We need a government capable of leading the country out of the danger and mess we are now in. Governments have wilfully gatten us to this state. They must get us out.Or the prospects will be alarming.
P Off, and take your book of fairy tales with you.
Nasty. We better not get more of this shit in Greece.
Christianity has been attacked systematically by the press and degenerate lobbyist groups such as LGBT and MCB.
@@MOGGS1942pillock
Madness of Crowds. Great book with truth!
To Douglas’s first point: if you blame ‘everybody’ for the problems, then the tragedy of the commons kicks in and nothing gets done about it.
Why would they want to do anything about it? Their career is to make sure it continues.
Love this! Douglas is very well educated in a broad sense, intellectual man, because he can draw conclusions from subjects he studies. Lately people became considered educated if they are proficient in certain field, like medicine, law, tech but have very shallow perspective on humanities, like history. Even people studying humanities are turned out to be ignorant on the subject, depending on who is teaching them.
Also Douglas is extremely patient with this young journalist. More so than with others.
Roland Fryer did a study and was shocked to find, "On the most extreme use of force - officer-involved shootings - we find no racial differences in either the raw data or when contextual factors are taken into account." (Roland Fryer, 2016)
And he got canceled for it.
From a historical study of weapons and political dynamics, Carroll Quigley concludes that the characteristics of weapons are the main predictor of democracy. Democracy tends to emerge only when the best weapons available are easy for individuals to buy and use. This explains why democracy occurs so rarely in human history.
Stolen from Wikipedia
And what about the countless UK reports that say institution racism exists? Do we only go with what makes us feel good?
@@TheSupahJaws Please cite these reports. I doubt they have any authenticity.
Noa’man Patel. Douglas Murray is a brilliant speaker great understanding of world affairs and has the courage to speak out.If he entered politics he would achieve the premiership in a very short space of time. There are few who can emulate him.
Douglas Murray is brilliant. Inaya Folarin Iman is brilliant. Thank you.
A Sage. A man of the ages. Why do we not listen to Douglas and Jorden and Tucker and Dennis and so many others who are not speaking about fighting each other but about listening and learning to agree with each other. What a world that would be. Thank you yet once more Douglas and The Equiano Project. Blessings.
Thanks 🙏 for your work!
It is extremely important that Western society defends itself.
This man hasn't slept since he graduated from Oxford.
How i love this man
Great interview. Remarkable chap, Murray. Excellent interviewer, Iman. Thanks for this.
Logically and analytically inspirational!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That innocent era 4 years ago when some of us still thought there was no war on competence and merit.
innocent? this world has always been jacked up
Douglas Murray, one of the most rational voices in the the world of distortion. He really speaks the truth but also common sense of the human condition. He knows his history so well that if I would be hard to challenge him . Very rational mind these days..
I'm paraphrasing here but.. "Instead of being the erasure of things we don't like, it has now become the exaggeration." Thank you for giving me the words to articulate that. Another example he didn't mention, was Universities previously being the bastion of critical thinking and free speech have now become the breeding ground of Cancel culture and tropes. I see it with the Israel Palestinian situation too, i am sure a genuine concern for humanity has turned into antisematism and blood libels for some. It's all too extreme. I agree wholeheartedly with Douglas advice to "dial it down".
A look at Western History over the last Century and you can see every swing of the pendulum in a civil rights movement always preceeds a swing in the opposite direction as a counter measure. The way things are going, the swing back may be harsh.
brilliant, well spoken, articulate man
As always, an interesting and informative interview. Thank you Mr. Murray.
The 5th Columnists pure and simple.
Exactly exactly exactly
A century and a half and still the Brits have not mastered audio balancing for film & TV, the same country that gave us such state-of-the-art sound engineering projects as The Beatles. What is that?
I don't think this video is representative of the audio balancing skills of all Brits!
@@stumccabe Poe's Law still a thing then?
thank you for sharing this truth stream
this is why they took your guns they knew the shit was gonna hit the fan,,,
Douglas Murray thank you
Just a beautiful explanation from Douglas Murray
Mr. Murray, liars have no boundaries, hence the extrapolation.
“Once you claim that everyone is responsible, it becomes impossible to attribute any responsibility” Douglas Murray
Douglas Murray is one of the greatest examples you can witness of pure, clinical intelligence and reasoning.
He believes in facts and nothing without actual evidence!
No religions ( unless he's referring to facts gleaned from them.)
No groundless theory's.
He's very quick and sharp as a knife!
A effective orator who can blow most of his opponents out of the proverbial water!
We need his reasoning these days.
It seems as though it’s all an approved collective punishment.
I think fairness should be the ideal. When you try to manipulate the world to put things right as you see it then you are in danger of becoming tyranical by introducing something like 'positive discrimination' you respond to perceived discrimination with real discrimination. By trying to address one problem you often create another problem. We need to find a middle way that is fair for all but in our society the people speaking from the middle way tend to be shouted down because they are not on either of two sides waging war with each other from extreme positions.
I agree with all the positive comments here about Douglas Murray, as well as Thomas Sowell, Victor Davis Hanson and others et al
Douglas Murrayisthe most knowledablr person about History Political and today issue. He is very clair aboutthe cbsequences of
ignorance and mob danger.
This man is incredible 👏🏼
So well spoken and insightful..a pleasure to listen to him.
Ryan Salazar. Douglas Murray One of the best Authors and journalists in our U.K. He is an honest trustworthy and reliable.Those who think otherwise should be considered as the enemy within.
Douglas is amazing. Douglas for Philosopher King of the World.
Love this man SHOUTOUT LOUD DOUGLAS
I saw a quote somewhere…” if you want to know who rues you, it’s who you can’t criticise “ something along those lines.
A new religion is a nicer word for a new heresy. New heresies appear all the time and never go away.
My thoughts exactly, brilliantly communicated!
George Floyd died of a feninyl overdose. The one bit of video that showed where the cop's knee was showed it on Floyd's should, not his neck, and Floyd started saying, I can't breath, while he was still in his own pickup truck. And I can't breath was a slogan at the time.
Incredible! 👏❤️
The Point needing emphasis. Agreed.
A footnote that you might consider is that during the civil trial where George Foyd's family sued the police, it was discovered there were two autopsies. The one used in a criminal trial was arranged politically. George Foyd died of a fixation brought on by a fentanyl overdose. In short, he swallowed his stash so he couldn't be charged. By the way, the cop didn't do something wrong. If a man says he can't breathe, what you think he's thinking or not, you call for a medic.
Hes such a great observer and commentator! spot on he hits the nail on the head every time.
And in a subsequent study by a Harvard researcher - who is black - it was revealed that there is no indication that police violence is disproportionately aimed at blacks in America. The study was done twice to verify the results.
🔹 *Isaiah 5 20. Bible verse.*
_Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!_
Looking at history as either "good" or "bad" corresponds with human perception of people being either "angels" or "demons". The reality is, history is both AND people are both.
Douglas we SALUTE you
Excellent
Someone needs to ask Douglas Murray if he thinks unfettered capitalism, and Wall Street buggery, that caused the banking crisis, has played a role in the young citizens becoming angered that regular working people can not afford a regular life and if he feels people have any right to feel anger toward those who have grossly and immorally managed the world monetary system.
God I love this man's mind!
Brillent interview😊
Very much enjoyed. Only criticism is please match the stereo sound with the visuals!
What? DagGONE it! GOOD JOB completely spoiling Murder on the Orient Express for me, Murray! I was just about to WATCH that! Holy COW! Dang! Geez!
We love you Murray❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Chauvin was thrown under the bus by his employers, his union and the legal system. His training to deal with demonstrably violent and aggressive prisoners was to pin them to the ground. He followed his training. Floyd was off his head on Fentanyl and was a regular user. His cardio-vascular system was very, very poor. He died due to heart failure brought about due to his drug use. But this didn’t fit the narrative. The direct result is that more black are being murdered than ever before because police are now very reluctant to deal with the real problem. Meanwhile nonsensical CRT is being stuffed down our throats and we are well our way to hell in a handcart.
Not true, I lived through the 1970s and 1980s and 90s during gang warfare in most American cities…the murder rate in 90% of American cities is way lower, I can remember LA having 1000 murder years while New York was posting 2000 murders a year.
I watched the video.
It doesnt support the narrative that Chauvin was holding down a man who was violently struggling to free himself.
Certainly not halfway through Chauvin choking him and Floyd started gasping and letting out choking sounds.
Did Douglas realise that he was being interviewed by Terence Trent d’Arby?
Brilliant man
There needs to be a serious discussion on the subject of identity itself, why identify with anything, race, religion, ,gender, nationality, skin colour or anything else surely my name is enough, When I identify myself with something other than the fact that I am a human being then whatever I identify with is a narrowing of my humanness I am more than just my skin or race I am a human being and the human being is a most amazing thing.
Great discussion thanks - 2020 was different