2024 Salomon QST 106 - SkiEssentials.com Ski Test

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  • Опубликовано: 6 сен 2023
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  • @jamesbrun1089
    @jamesbrun1089 9 месяцев назад

    Excellent presentation, Bob. Always good to see you with the appropriate length when you do the review. That iridescent top sheet really pops. Bravo Salomon. You and Jeff need to book another trip to Utah to do a deep dive with this very compelling ski.

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  9 месяцев назад

      Hey, I think you're on to something! The range of the 106 is incredibly impressive. We had it on a great snow day here in VT as well as those amazing Alta days. If you ski in an area that has a mix of terrain and conditions, it's tough to beat that 106.

  • @AvinashSharma-fs7sx
    @AvinashSharma-fs7sx 8 месяцев назад

    Hey Bob, thank you so much for these helpful videos. Trying to build a 2 ski quiver using ski essentials. I am an advanced skier, 5'10, 185lbs, 40yr old. New to skiing but logged 130+ days in last 2 season, all on a QST 92, 169cm. Hit the big Ikon/Epic resorts across Western USA/CA. Repeating it this season again. I love that ski but looking to upgrade. Too short is the main issue. I have it down to Mindbender 89ti or the Declivity 92 from you guys.I am a 70-30 offpiste-onpiste type of skier who likes exploring the entire mountain after spending the first hour or 2 on groomers. Looking for a 100-110mm range daily driver for soft snow days. Something that does well in powder, tress, moguls, steeps and allows me to make super short to mediums sized turns and keep a rhythmic, fluid yet a mellower approach. Different story on groomers: Hitting speeds of 35-45mph on groomers on my QST (started at ~10mph) due to improvement in technique. Love making nice medium/big turns. Will only get better. Looking at this QST in 173cm. What do you think about that length for me? Do you recommend any other skis I should look at?

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  8 месяцев назад

      I think you're pretty darn close, especially if you've had a good experience on the 92. Length sounds great!

  • @darinsmith2458
    @darinsmith2458 10 месяцев назад +4

    Cool looking ski... I mentioned how I broke my arm on QST 106.. They were the 188s and I think they had a turning radius of 23 meters.. When you said that they shortened the turning radius I am glad that it isn't too short.. I have heard you guys saying skis getting catchy.. My RP 100s are catchy in the tails.. I think that is because of the 15 meter turn radius.. I did have one time last year that I was in an icy bowl and my front tips caught some loose snow and spun me around but I still look at that differently..

  • @JS-gb5nr
    @JS-gb5nr 4 месяца назад

    Really great video i actually tried and bought some pair of QST 106.
    I was thinking of 181 or 189 and landed in 189. I am 178 and its feels so easy in all conditions powder and hard carving. Think 181 felt to short. Best Ski i ever run

  • @cams3425
    @cams3425 10 месяцев назад

    Cool top sheet and base for 2024.

  • @joesalemi2414
    @joesalemi2414 3 месяца назад

    Great review. Thanks.

  • @john-y3t
    @john-y3t 27 дней назад

    you guys have the most useful ski reviews out there, thank you! I am 6" 175 lb 50 year old expert who, like seemingly a lot of skiers, is agonizing over getting a 189 or 181. I currently ski a pair of black crows camox in 186 and am looking for something more soft snow oriented and better in fresh snow for trips out west. Ski pretty aggressively still, decent shape, and do get into trees and more technical stuff our west at whistler and breck-stuff like you guys got into this year at Alta but not always obviously with snow that good., Would you reccomend the 181 given my aging knees or size up to get more charge potentail? Would love to have some high speed capability as well for soft groomers and am concerned about sizing down from the 186's I've come to enjoy but also worried about the extra stress on my knees that comes with the extra width., Thank you

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  26 дней назад

      I would recommend the 181 if you're at all concerned about knees and related stress, especially based on your lighter weight.

  • @Bix103
    @Bix103 9 месяцев назад

    I am on the East Coast and already have an everyday all-mountain ski. I am looking at adding a wider ski. I hear great things about the QST Blank and the QST 106. I am about Bob's size. So, I am looking at 189cm in the QST 106 and 186cm in the QST Blank. Which would you say is better in the trees and bumps? I would mostly be using these in soft conditions.

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  9 месяцев назад

      Personally, I don't think there's much of a need for the 112 here in the east. The QST 106 should be plenty except for the rare case of 2+feet of snow. Even then, how many runs is that going to be? For trees, bumps, and other soft snow applications, I think the 106 has enough float and way more versatility than the Blank.

  • @nilsalb
    @nilsalb 4 месяца назад

    Hi! I’m looking to get these skis after watching your reviews! Amazing review as always! I am 6’2” 175lbs, live in CA, advanced/expert skier. I am looking for a size that would pivot well in trees. Would you recommend 181cm or 188cm? Thank you!

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  4 месяца назад

      I'd go 181. I skied the 106 in the 181 the other day and really liked it. I'm 6/2 225 for reference.

  • @user-to8io8iv8h
    @user-to8io8iv8h 6 месяцев назад

    hey @skiessentials ! thank you for the review !!! simple question .. i'm 183cm and 80kg, advance skier skiing in the french alpes and i don't know if i should take the 189 or 181 size ? do you think 189cm will be too long and i will lost maneuverabilityo or it will still be playfull/agile and more stable in hard snow at high speed ? thank for your help !!!

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  6 месяцев назад

      I'd go 181 based on your stats and application.

  • @alexkuiper1096
    @alexkuiper1096 10 месяцев назад

    This is great - many thanks. Can you comment in general terms on sizing for these skis? Salomon seems to recommend a range of +5cm to +15cm vs height for an advanced or expert skier. Does that seem right to you? The available size range seems to suggest that they are skied shorter than that.

    • @src248
      @src248 10 месяцев назад +4

      +15 would be nuts unless you're planning on straight-lining a big mountain face. Head height is a great place to be on these, I'm 188cm and the 189 feels entirely appropriate

    • @alexkuiper1096
      @alexkuiper1096 10 месяцев назад

      @@src248 Many thanks - that's really useful.

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  10 месяцев назад +5

      I think that anywhere between 5cm below and 5cm above head high is generally acceptable. Beyond that, preference, aggressiveness, and application (where and how you ski) can all be combined to move the needle either longer or shorter.

    • @alexkuiper1096
      @alexkuiper1096 10 месяцев назад

      @@SkiEssentials Fantastic - many thanks for the reply!

  • @Krilid10
    @Krilid10 7 месяцев назад

    I need a ski that can do it all, ski pow, groomers and hit some side hits, and I found a great deal on last years Salomon’s last year collection. Do you think I should go for the qst 106, qst 98 or the stance 102? What would be the most versatile for me? I’m currently on the K2 sights and want to replace them for some thing wider.

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  6 месяцев назад

      I'd say the 98 would be the most versatile. Amazing floater for its width and a decent carver for having that much rocker and taper. I'd go that route!

  • @DoyleKeegan
    @DoyleKeegan 8 месяцев назад

    How would you compare this to the new Rustler 10? Asking as a type 3 skier looking for a west coast one ski quiver. I ski only at resorts but do pretty much all mountain

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  8 месяцев назад +3

      The Rustler is smoother in softer groomers, crud, and chop due to the metal. The QST is a better floater in full on powder or deep snow. I'd say the Rustler has more versatility, especially for more aggressive skiers who like to push the envelope regardless of conditions or terrain. QST feels more like a soft snow specialist.

  • @alex_sede
    @alex_sede 9 месяцев назад

    Hi guys, did you test different mount points.
    I'm deciding if it's worth to move 2 cm forward the bindigs from recommended.
    What do you think?

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  9 месяцев назад

      We did not test different mount points. The recommended line seemed fine to us! Unless you know you want something specific in how this works, I'd leave it where it is.

  • @carlhouweling2295
    @carlhouweling2295 4 месяца назад

    How would these compare to the Black Crows Atris. I'm between the QST 106 at 189cm and the Atris at 190cm to use as a first downhill focused touring ski. 6'3" tall and weigh 190lbs and I'm willing to sacrifice on the uphill for better performance. Would mount ATK Freeraider Evo 15 bindings to keep it lighter and handle my aggressive ski style. Looking for a ski that can handle drops into powder, steep chutes, and occasional switch landings along with variable conditions in Tahoe spring and early season. Basically looking for an idea how these 2 skis differ without trying them myself, it seems they are very similar. Or maybe you have another ski you'd recommend? I've been skiing the Fischer Ranger 108 at 192cm in the resort this season and loving them so far. Appreciate the insight in advance, thanks for doing these reviews!

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  4 месяца назад +1

      There are more similarities than differences, although i'd say the playfulness of the Atris stands out as a strength over the more directional 106. I'd lean that route if you are looking for any type of switch performance.

  • @ImTiago
    @ImTiago 8 месяцев назад

    Hey there! How does the qst106 compare to the reckoner 102? I like how the reckoner rode but it was just a bit too soft for me in the rougher parts

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  8 месяцев назад

      The Reckoner is quite a bit more flexible than the QST. If you're looking for more directional performance and better crud-busting capabilities, the 106 is the way to go. You'll lose some playfulness going to the 106, but if that's not part of your priority package, then it's okay to look to something sturdier like the 106.

    • @ImTiago
      @ImTiago 8 месяцев назад

      @@SkiEssentials
      thanks for your answer!
      can you think of a ski that maybe sits between the reckoner and the qst in terms of playfulness and stability?

  • @henburley
    @henburley 3 месяца назад

    I'm 188cm, 155lbs advanced/expert skier riding primarily in the PNW. 80/20 backside/on-piste; I seek steeps, powder, trees equally. Haven't had a chance to demo this model but I'm pretty sure it'll be my one-ski quiver. Powder7 ski length calculator has me in the 184-190 range but I'm trepidatious to throw down on the 188, as I've had fun on low 180s skis with 19m radius and I'm not sure I'm heavy enough to utilize huge sticks? Anyway I'm super impressed with your responsiveness on this thread so thought I'd ask.

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  3 месяца назад +1

      Thanks! I think your weight can put you into the 181 comfortably. If you were 188 and 200lbs, then it may be a different story. The 106 is a sturdy ski and doesn't have to be upsized for performance.

  • @isaacmarch5319
    @isaacmarch5319 7 месяцев назад

    Live out east but looking for a ski that can be my east east coast deeper snow ski and my daily for trips to the west coast. On the west coast I mostly ski steep off-piste runs. Looking at the qst 106, rustler 10, and line blade optic 104. Which is your favorite.

    • @kfitzp88
      @kfitzp88 7 месяцев назад

      I ride the qst 106 and that thing is a beast on the crud, pow, steeps, groomers and even grabbing some air. Awesome ski

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  7 месяцев назад

      Of those three, I like the Salomon--nice smooth and quiet feel while keeping the energy intact.

  • @JamesHirsch-yb5ey
    @JamesHirsch-yb5ey 3 месяца назад

    Hi, I’m looking to buy a qst 106 for an all mountain powder ski to complement my quiver. I currently ski on a nordica enforcer 94, 172. I’m 5 6 175. Advanced skier who likes to ski it all, aggressively and fast. Although I do value quickness and maneuverability in trees and bumps and ability to smear. At times the enforcer at the 172 felt like a lot of ski, especially in deeper snow. I felt like if I wasn’t always “on”, the ski would ski me a bit and holding long turns got tough. I’m considering getting the 165 so I can gain more control but am concerned I’ll lose a lot of float and crud performance by not going with the 173. What do you think?

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  3 месяца назад +1

      I don't think the 165 is too short for your stats and application. You may lose a bit of stability at speed but I think it's worth the sacrifice. Seems like you're leaning towards the shorter skis here.

  • @user-cu8gk9jc4k
    @user-cu8gk9jc4k 9 месяцев назад

    How is the flex of the ski? Does it still allow the skier to butter and tail press?

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  9 месяцев назад

      You will have to put your own input in order to get the ski to butter or press--it is a bit stiffer than some skis that are more amenable to groundwork like you're looking for.

  • @nael_bike8989
    @nael_bike8989 7 месяцев назад

    hello, I'm looking for a ski ready to tackle everything in freeride, jump, powder, ice, snow already tracked but also sometimes carving on the piste. Is this ski made for me?

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  7 месяцев назад

      Pretty much. I'd say the ice is the weakest part, but still not bad. You could check out the QST 98 if you're looking for a bit more of a carving ski, but then you're losing out on some flotation. Give and take.

    • @nael_bike8989
      @nael_bike8989 7 месяцев назад

      @@SkiEssentials apparently the qst 98 are too flexible, I hesitate between the fisher ranger 102 (104 because I take 190 ski) or the qst 106

    • @nael_bike8989
      @nael_bike8989 7 месяцев назад +1

      ⁠@@SkiEssentialsfor you who is the better for me between qst 106 or Fisher ranger 102 (104 because I take 190 ski )?

  • @user-wu2nl2rd6e
    @user-wu2nl2rd6e 8 месяцев назад

    Hello! How do you guys feel about à Hybrid binding for this ski? And going a little guetter front with the binding?

    • @user-wu2nl2rd6e
      @user-wu2nl2rd6e 8 месяцев назад

      Further*

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  8 месяцев назад +1

      Our colleague Matt uses these skis with a Shift and he mounts them I believe +2 from the line and loves them. He likes the freestyle component of the skis, so the mount makes sense for him. For most skiers who don't have a specific wish for the ski's performance, the line seems to work just fine.

    • @user-wu2nl2rd6e
      @user-wu2nl2rd6e 8 месяцев назад

      Thank you!

  • @barisoz
    @barisoz 7 месяцев назад

    hello,
    im 174cm tall. for qst 106, salomon’s size tool recommend +5/+15 above for advanced level. and 0/+10 for intermediate.
    in the first, i was thinking that 173cm would be great for me, but according to salomon i will be ok with 181cm . isnt it too tall ? What would you recommend?

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  7 месяцев назад

      I think that's too long. I'd go 173.

    • @barisoz
      @barisoz 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@SkiEssentials Thank you so much for answer. But, why salomon recommend that higher lenghts ? According to what ? Even if i was a beginner, base on Salomon's size tool, i could have buy 179cm tall skis (which is too long i think, im 174cm). It's interesting.

  • @john96395
    @john96395 3 месяца назад

    Does this model carve better than the older qst 106 models? Love my 2020 qst 106 but it just does not carve well.

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  3 месяца назад

      The new 106 has a more dramatic turn style, but it's not built that much differently. I personally think the new 106 is a better carver, but it's not an entirely different ski.

  • @heyqqqq
    @heyqqqq 3 месяца назад

    I'm 166cm, advanced/expert skier. I have a carving ski so looking more for a wider ski for powder days that would work in other conditions as well. With the tail and tip rocker, I was thinking 173cm but not sure if that's too long. Do these ski shorter with less effective edge? My other skis are 163cm, at times they can feel short to me.

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  3 месяца назад

      They're pretty sturdy, so I don't think there's much of a need to upsize here, even with the slightly longer rocker--the 106 is more directional than the other QST's, so you can go a bit shorter if you want.

    • @heyqqqq
      @heyqqqq 3 месяца назад

      @@SkiEssentials ok thanks! maybe i'll go with 165 cm then.

  • @bryanulnick7746
    @bryanulnick7746 4 месяца назад

    what binding would you recommend advanced 200lbs in late 50's

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  3 месяца назад

      We pair them with the Tyrolia Attack 14 and they will work great for your stats and application:
      www.skiessentials.com/products/2024-salomon-qst-106-skis-w-tyrolia-attack-14-gw?ski%2520size=165

  • @alessandrolibera1170
    @alessandrolibera1170 6 месяцев назад

    Hi, no metal in the ski? Dosen't have Titanal under the foot? Thanks

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  6 месяцев назад

      Salomon says it has titanal underfoot. I've never seen it other than the catalog, and they're definitely not pushing it as a performance additive. Best I can say is that it's unclear.

    • @alessandrolibera1170
      @alessandrolibera1170 6 месяцев назад

      @@SkiEssentials i'll ask Salomon directly...i was pondering the sale..thank you

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  6 месяцев назад

      @@alessandrolibera1170Update: I asked our mounting department and they confirm that metal shavings come out when drilling the QST's.

    • @alessandrolibera1170
      @alessandrolibera1170 6 месяцев назад

      @@SkiEssentials thanks for checking that out. One last thing if i may ask...how It compares in general stiffness to a similar ski like the black crows Atris?

  • @itskearny
    @itskearny 9 месяцев назад

    how do they compare to the armada declivity 102 ti?

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  9 месяцев назад +1

      QST is considerably floatier and more playful. The Declivity feels more planted in the snow, capable of ripping high speed GS turns on firmer snow while the QST will balk a bit at that proposition. The flipside happens in softer and deeper snow. QST stays right on top--very maneuverable in trees and powder. The differences aren't huge, but they are apparent.

    • @itskearny
      @itskearny 9 месяцев назад

      @@SkiEssentials thanks for the reply! I guess for what I’m looking to pick up the skis for, the qst sounds like a better fit in my quiver! Thanks for all the video reviews .

    • @glucia805
      @glucia805 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@SkiEssentialshow's the Declivity 108 compare?

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  8 месяцев назад +1

      @@glucia805 the 108 feels like a smoother and more composed ski than the 106, especially at speed and in straighter lines. The 106 is easier to manipulate and maneuver in tighter spaces, and honestly, despite the slightly narrower waist, I find the 106 to be a more playful floater. If you're more of an aggressive big mountain charger, the 108 lines up better with that application.

  • @todd5012
    @todd5012 10 месяцев назад

    Could you compare QST 106 and Season Nexus?

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  10 месяцев назад

      We have not skied Season, although they look right up my alley.

  • @vivelemond
    @vivelemond 3 месяца назад

    This review really doesn't address any range of conditions: how it is in bumps, tight turning steeps, etc? Detailed flex breakdown would be super helpful as well, as would at least a few reference comparisons. Thank you for video.

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  3 месяца назад

      We have more written information in this ski test article. Also, please see our 2023 full review of this ski as it returns unchanged for 2024 and 2025 except for graphics: www.skiessentials.com/Chairlift-Chat/2023-salomon-qst-106-ski-review