Filoni is what you get when some fat old guy wins a Fan-Fiction contest, but when he's invited for the studio tour, they lose track of him and he never leaves.
Katie Lucas was one of those people that made him look good. She wrote about 15 episodes of TCW but has essentially disappeared from the industry after the Disney buy out of LucasFilm.
I don't know why so many people keep saying that, but Dave Filoni is NOT the creator of Clone Wars. And he didn't have as much to do with any of the series as a lot of people think he did. George Lucas was the creator of Clone Wars. He ALREADY had an outline and direction for the entire story in mind when he was writing the prequels, and you can easily discern that by the things Lucas left out deliberately and by the things he set up. Afterward, he hired people, including Filoni, to help him write what he already had in mind.
Catherine Winder hired Filoni not Lucas according to Star Wars Insider. Lucas didn't have TCW in mind until around 2004-2005 when the Microseries was airing and saw it's success. So Lucas decided to make an animation division and had his company create TCW under his supervision.
@@ironinquisitor3656 so what . IDC who hired him. George Lucas isn't even the best star wars writer so IDC the legends writers are better including the old Republic stories way better than his Jesus Anakin crap that was trash
He positioned himself perfectly, and KK positioned him perfectly as the new Lucas/Star Wars expert. Before Ahsoka I heard many many fans say “Filoni will save Star Wars” he’s clearly not.
Ahsoka is basically his calling card as it was the only show he had full and absolute control, being not only the showrunner but also the only writer, with zero involvement of George Lucas anymore. With Clone Wars and Rebels, there were always other creatives heavily involved, which kind of makes it difficult to say who made what exactly. With Ahsoka it’s all Dave Filoni. So yeah, we can now say that Dave Filoni is not capable to save Star Wars and that this idea left the building.
I also remember how before the Mandalorian there was too much fan worship of him. Yet he was honest in interviews and speeches about his leanings and so I refused to follow him. I remember being berated in comments by many who were also anti-KK for my dislike of Filoni and warnings that he was not going to give them what they wanted. And, well, here we are. I don’t want any apologies, I just wish people would see what was/is real and not what they desire in their heads.
@@clonecommando-cn6bo They are not fans, they are consoomers. Fans actually care about quality and aren’t afraid to voice criticism, consoomers just lick the corporate boot without question.
This man just loves to add more questions than answered. And not in a good way. In fact, he’s undermining his characters and making them very unlikable.
Jon Favreau had them in a good spot at the end of Mando Season 2 and they ruined it, they pushed him aside, and did their own thing ruining what he had planned on purpose, if I was Jon I'd walk away, maybe make a new space opera if he really wants a space opera, but I'd walk away.
Jon Favreau probably missed the point where he should have decoupled from Disney. He was pushed out of Marvel after starting the fire there, helped reigniting some fire for Star Wars just to be pushed out again and is now facing the downfall of his career if the Mando movie fails (and after all that happened after Mando season 2, it’s very likely that the Mando movie will fail). I think Jon Favreau should have searched for a book/comic he likes to make a movie out of it with some other investors instead of Disney. He could have made the jump to be more independent imo.
Favreau needs to walk away from Disney/Star Wars/Marvel go to Universal and do some a** kicking movie for them. If I remember correctly, Universal owns the rights to Namor, The Sub-Mariner and Hulk. Which is why Mark Ruffalo only does appearances in other movies as Hulk and why we got Nammmmmooooorrrrr. Give fans the real Namor and Hulk and he can rub Iger & KK face in it.
Is anyone surprised? I’ve been calling Filoni a fraud for years and all I got was backlash. The guy is so mediocre it hurts. He may have been George Lucas’s apprentice, but he didn’t do a good job of listening. Don’t even get me started on his crutch characters like Ahsoka and Sabine. All he does is stick them in everything
I know how you feel Felony is a fraud a fake riding on the wave of others. I don’t understand why people say he saved Star Wars pffft I prefer Jon Favereau 1000 time
If you are critical of the Filoniverse it triggers some people really bad, it's fun playing with them. He has some ardent fans, they hate the OT because Ahsoka isn't in it and she is the most important character ever.
@@dmac3183 Not at first. It was just after all the build up with the search for Ezra Bridger, it was set up for a great story, but all that potiental just ran flat, cause Dave (supposdely) got all butt hurt over the shipping between Ezra and Sabine, even though we didn't push it too far. While I still hope a romance to still be on the tabble, as of right now, it looks like the only that can justify Sabine's crazy motivation and actions the lead to Thrawn's return and the Galaxy being doomed. It's a mess and it needs to be fixed.
@coletrain583 as someone who didn't have the time to watch it but now enjoys listening a lot of lore videos while working, I always find it jarring when it jumps from EU to Filoniverse. I often wondered if he was good, because the stuff I attempted to watch that he was involved in is crud. He is also Chief of Content so should have tighter reigns on creative. I was 5 when Empire was released, massive part of my Youth now it sucks. Disappointed in Hamill wishing the end of someone's life, I guess Jake is really him. Clone Wars fans are also being done dirty I understand, they are making it nowadays for a Californianaudience.
A child would have more imagination than Filoni has. The last Star Wars I watched was Ahsoka. I cancelled Disney+ afterward and won't be watching any more Disney Star Wars.
@@pg9193No. Now Acolyte, Andor, Mando Season 3, Ashoka, and Book of Boba are utter garbage. Leave Favreau out of this. Filoni is overrated (I never was a fan) but this witch-hunt is getting old.
Favreau has been a recognized talent as a writer and director since the movie Swingers in the early 90s, and he has built a pretty decent career as a character actor.
@@paulibabba5566 Agreed. Favreau has an excellent understanding of characters and story. It was blatantly obvious from the beginning that BOBF and Mando S3 didn't come from him. Anyone who says otherwise hasn't been paying attention. It would be amazing if Kennedy let him make his own movie but I seriously doubt it.
From what I heard recently, Filoni is not exactly one to hold canon nearly sacred as we the fans do. Apparently he paves over even what he writes, so my expectations are not moved from the deep pit they are.
Dave is the bully in the sand pit who kicks others sand castles down. I can say with certainty that TCW by extension felony because he ran that show caused most of the retcons in the old expanded universe, not even the movies were safe from Filoni who sees the whole thing as a sand pit without single thought of the stuff made by others including George.
It's really cool for Knee Payne to come back and figure out how he can speak about his industry concerns with the appropriate boundaries, as I think he got spooked earlier not having addressed a larger audience before.
I was one of the first people to say if you're expecting foney filoni and favreau to save the franchise, you are delusional. Man did that ever age well. They do as they are told like EVERY other disney employee. There is no such a thing as rogue employees there. I don't care what these people are supposedly like. They are puppets the same as the rest.
It took a long time for people to catch onto Filoni. We're finally there. People still have reverence for Favreau and HATE when I place the failings of Boba and Mando season 3 on his shoulders but people need to stop making excuses. No one is saving SW
Feloni is no different than Headland when it comes to Star Wars, they just treated as their personal fantasy/therapy sandbox not caring how they affect it. Also the push for witches is true comes from the next step in Feminism Extremist, which no doubt his wife is all in favor and probably the inspiration for all thia witch focused plots. Still lots of respect lost for him and Hidalgo, men who supposedly eere task with helping and protecting the Star Wars franchise, and now they are their biggest destroyers.
Shame on you WDWPro! How dare you say Filoni made Clone Wars. George Lucas was responsible for Clone Wars. Filoni was responsible for Rebels and Bad Batch. Get it right!
Oh look, he only made this pile of dogshit and not that pile pf dogshit. Your desire to put sense to children’s cartoons as an adult then i question your morals
Ahsoka was an absolute banger and cemented his legitimacy not only upon star wars but certeinly within live action cinema as well. The writing in ahsoka is an homage to the original trilogy. Just imo
i think you guys missed the mark about the witches in Star Wars. the night sisters are a massive influence in the clone wars series, especially when it comes to the back stories of maul and savage.
The wolves are because he is obsessed with them and wants wolves to be the center of the spiritual universal existence something something Princess Mononoke for justification. His goal was always to make Ashoka *the true main character of Star Wars.* Replacing both Anakin, Luke and possibly even Rey if he outlast Kennedy. To do that, he needed to put her in live action. So he has done everything he can to weasel himself into a position to do that. Helped Rian Johnson before that turned toxic. Helped Favreau in the first season, then slowly took over from there. Helping Headland then retreating when Acolyte flopped. Overall, being completely subservient and unquestionably loyal to Kennedy. Nightsister Merrin from Fallen Order was popular and his wife is into witchcraft.
And quite a few Filoni fanboys do consider Ahsoka to be the face of the franchise. The only question is whether or not they're numerous enough to keep the franchise going.
@@reidmason2551 The fact that the franchise is in the toilet does not make that a good thing, but Filoni probably would be content if she was queen of the ruins. They don't have the numbers. Remember Ahsoka season 1. Its only positive at the moment is that it is not the Acolyte. Season 2 is were we are going to see her rise or fall. As she going to defeat Thrawn because he feels that if Ahsoka defeats him, she will become better than Thrawn. Who is very popular with the fanbase.
@@reidmason2551Ahsoka wasn’t a success. There is a reason nobody arguing for Ahsoka compares the ratings with Mandalorian season 1 or 2, which were together the peak of Star Wars on Disney+, despite subscriber numbers only going up since then. Let‘s be honest, if it wasn’t Dave Filoni‘s baby, Ahsoka wouldn’t get a second season, because why should it? It’s not specifically good, didn’t get a good enough audience to begin with and will not gather a cult following in the future (something Andor may be able due to a better quality in storytelling). And worst of all, the only slightly interesting villain of Ahsoka lost its actor (😢).
You know, nobody has bothered to mention Bryce Dallas Howard at all. Granted, she probably wants to stay as far away from any Lucasfilm...anything right now, but she has been the 1 shining star and no one has bothered or thought about her. She's been probably one of the top 3 or 4 directors at Lucasfilm and SHE'S the one who deserves a shot. Definitely NOT Leslie Headland.
She's a decent director. I don't necessarily know what acumen she has for helming an entire SW project. But I'd be open if the writers and concept were their
Hollywood and the gaming industry forgot the number 1 rule of business, the customer is always right. If you've worked in any kind of customer service, you know for a fact that isn't true lol, but the idea is that if you keep your fans happy, they will be a LOT more willing to give you money. But instead of giving fans what they want, they try to squeeze every last penny out of them and destroy any good will they had. People don't hate Disney Star wars because they're misogynistic, they hate it because the writing is trash and Disney keeps forcing their agenda down peoples throat in a not so subtle way. People don't hate EA because their games are trash, they hate them them because they keep using scummy tactics to nickel and dime them. Give the customers what they want, keep your fan base happy, and rake in the cash. I don't understand why this is such a hard concept for these businesses to understand.
I didn't know him and just went by what some said that he could be able to save Star Wars because "muh George Lucas' padawan". I was sceptical as I usually do when too many people parrot the same thing for too long without any proof to backup their claims. It seems we were mostly correct to think that Filoni only is there for the bucks and the clout and not because of any genuine love and respect for the original Star Wars universe. I think the only thing he learnt from George was to do the exact opposite of what his master wanted to do.
I can't help but think that while Filoni is not unskilled or a particularly bad creator, I do think he benefitted from George's input all those years. I also think while he has "convictions" about what he wants at the current time, he's not the kind of person who really thinks for themselves and sticks to his own beliefs and ideas. So after George leaves and he's influenced by others, his creative ideas change over the years to adapt to those modern trends and the change in his own personal beliefs that are driven by outside forces, which is honestly really common. It takes a rather eccentric person to resist such things.
I remember Filoni crying during his panel at celebration with the Clone Wars voice actors. It always looked like guilt to me. Like maybe he realised he had betrayed every fan and employee who once looked up to him. This was the same celebration where Favreau left him trailing behind after their joint interview, like he couldn't wait to get away from him.
You have a group of people that are unable to stand on the shoulders of George Lucas. They've tried and failed to breakaway from the original characters George created.
I don't want Disney to save anything. I don't want anything more from these people who have made it abundantly clear over the years what their plans are and what their attitude is. And especially not in connection with children. You can't trust these people anymore. The damage these people have caused is irreparable and no matter what they produce, you ALWAYS know what intentions are behind it and which sick people it comes from.
As far as I'm concerned, Filoni is a pdf file. Like why was Ahsoka dressed in so little until she became an adult? Like ok, if he dressed her down in Rebels and on, that'd be one thing, but it went the opposite way. Was she his Alice in Wonderland?
Bring back firing people who fail… that will fix things, this is like the Enron big failure bank level of mismanagement and shocking Disney can afford this level of failure. The damage is catastrophic for Star Wars, they are going to run it into the ground and no fans will be left… Fire “Cowbaby Dave”!!!!
There’s a very easy solution to this. Allow Filoni to finish the Heir to the Empire storyline without any Kennedy interference, release Andor season 2, completely scrap everything else, then completely stop making SW content. 5 years later, revisit the franchise. Maybe do a Vader series 100% based on the comic. Either live action or Clone Wars animation will work.
I clicked on this because of the headline, but we are already 5 mins in to a 12 minute video but you still have not began to discuss the subject - Dave (shrug)
Dave Filoni Always has been and always will be a Hack writer he had a one hit wonder with the character Ahsoka I know he is well liked even by Gorge Lucas but the light does not shine out of his ass he is only good at writing non cannon cartoons.
Ahwoka is no wonder. There is even a channel dedicated to autistic dissection of how awful and toxic this character is. Some of it is nitpicking, but they are mostly right. She is a badly written character, she doesn´t really grow through the show, just in the frame of one episode or one arc, then it is all reseted and she acts recklessly and egoistically again, and again, and again... The last season is the absolutely worst. She helps a known terr0rist, slaver and criminal with no redeeming qualities to take over the planet she was attacking for years with her group of space ISIS/Na*is to dethrone the legitimate ruler. Maul is used as a scapegoat to justify the illegal intervention and to shift the blame for the death of the clones from Ahwoka, who is totally responsible for it, on him. Because MaUL BaD, so Ahwoka and Bo-Tox GoOd. Failoni´s peak writing...
When I worked in comics and they told me A. They were canceling my projects again and B. They were bringing back a certain Marvel/DC writer who wasn't happy with her lack of creativity they said this and I quote: "They don't want that (sci-fi), they want Black witches." I had a laugh though. They kept harping on "authentic voices." So as a Pagan I asked "So which gods/goddesses did they work with?" Naturally, the answer was they weren't Pagan.
@@Hello-bi1pm I don't know what religion the writer was. Just found it ironic the head was preaching "authenticity" and "culture" until this particular writer came back. Seems watching Fort Salem makes you qualified lol.
Anyone who had high hopes of Dave saving Star Wars should know that he is fully down with the woke agenda, this is how he has ingratiated himself with KK.
I don’t remember how the code exactly goes, but I believe a statement attributed to Dave Filoni is he said existing cannon is over written by new creations. Someone please correct me if I’m wrong.
You should have done more research. I quick google search reveals the The Nightsisters AKA Witches were created by Dave Wolverton, and first appeared in his Star Wars Legends 1994 novel The Courtship of Princess Leia. It was also then pulled in the animated series the clone wars and was heavily used.
Dave is a fantastic artist. During Rebels, he probably had 100 ideas where 80% weren't exactly on track. Yet, he had George there to speak with. Fast forward now, and the training wheels are gone. George isn't around anymore, and fine-tuning on-track ideas are gone. To fix all this. Disney must find a director who has become more familiar with SW Universe than watching large-screen movies. They must dig into the comics, books, games, read the lore, character backstories, etc. The actors they find don't need to have the same in-depth knowledge, but at least be fans of the show. Enough, they don't want to create something out of place for themselves/their character. In the Acolyte series, it was painfully evident that the actors didn't know about Star Wars, the writing was poor, and the direction was inadequate. This results in poor performances from even the best actors. Consider the mediocre performance of Harrison Ford in the Disney SW movies. It's not even close to his finest work.
1- Witches from Acolyte: His involvment was just "yeah sure there is some witches in SW" Acolyte was already greenlighted when he got promoted. Blaming it on him is a bit far fetched. 2- KK will sign of on anything female centric. 3- Wolves, well ... He likes wolves. My take on it is that Filoni is simply a SW director that tries to get project greenlighted and then accepts modifications from Storygroup/KK (put a chick in it and make her gay) to have it greenlighted. Headland/storygroup/KK HAVE tried to shift the blame to filoni, and it's unfair to blame him for the Acolyte and probably some of the crap we have seen recently. Orders from above must be obeyed.
I get the impression that the witches in Acolyte was more of a Headland thing than a Filoni. I get that Filoni has a hard on for the witches of Dathomir but I don't think he can claim that one. Another thing is witches seem to be on trend for Disney right now. Their girl boss execs absolutely love them as a symbol of female empowerment. Very on brand
@@ethansnyder3401 100%! When Feloni was promoted the acolyte had already been greenlighted. He’s a scapegoat. Feloni has made mistakes, but it’s just a case à somebody that writes and does stuff that kk would accept as a project. Hard to blame an employee who does what his direct employer wants.
Filoni hasn’t produced anything I’m interested in. OG and EU prevail. The Clone Wars were the beginning of the end of Star Wars, long before Disney. It ruined how children looked at Star Wars. It would be better off without him and Disney.
Disney's Star Wars should publicly apologize to the Fandom, they should fire Leslie Headline and remove her from the franchise completely. Next , they should remove or at least demote Kathleen Kennedy and fill her position with someone who will put good storytelling and content ahead of agenda. If they do that, then there might be a slim chance of saving the franchise, bringing back the loyal fans who built the franchise, and regain or at least boost the stock in Disney.
Never gonna happen. Headlamp and KK (especially Headlamp, Weinstein's personal assistant) have way too much dirt on someone famous, that they'll only be removed by choice.
Try to make a conclusive analysis on both occult themes: lycanthropism and witchcraft It is not just CLONE WARS and REBELS, but a continuity in AHSOKA (the Norse mythology in title sequence, Skoll and Hati) and the production comapny logo of 'Shoot to Midnight' with it's explicit _intersectionalist_ corporate agenda.
@@Hello-bi1pm "(...) this isn't just Joseph Campbell stuff to ripoff mythologies?" It's a fair question if traces of that was with him or e.g. in earlier scripts like 'Empire Strikes Back' - when 'The Emperor' character shifted throughout drafts from a golden robed politician (possibly picked up, again in looks as the Snoke character that had no backstory) to a sort of sorcerer, eventually shooting lightning from his fingertips. Witches were introduced by George Lucas in the 'Clone Wars' animated series - with the 'Night Sisters' as 'Dark Side' users. The Disney 'Rebels' animated series appears to be first time, emphasizing wolves. I'm hardly literate upon the lore of the Lucas 'Expanded Universe/Legends' of novels and the later canonized animated series, so I don't have a full picture. But people who do, trace these elements solely to Dave Filoni. I would argue that the theme of the Night Sisters and 'Dark Troopers' (undead super soldiers) fits well into the world building - I thought, it looked dramatic in the 'Ahsoka' series - when it was cartoonish writing that sunk the plot and resonance. Considering a criticism of George Lucas - who didn't just sell the franchise, but had effectively merged Lucasfilm with Disney when paid in shares - there is a great documentary by DuduFilm on the spirituality of 'Star Wars' - and the subconcious 'culture war' can be regarded as a struggle whether the stories should symbolize intersectionalist 'progressive' politics (without de facto emancipating anybody at the workplace) or whether they should renew traditional storytelling toward profound traditional images of man - as partially outlined by Joseph Campbell's 'Hero's Journey'. In the end, these stories will always end up as commercial 'culture industry' rather than actual culture/subculture...
I don’t remember how the quote exactly goes, but I believe a statement attributed to Dave Filoni is he said existing cannon is over written by new creations. So if a new show or movie comes out and contradicts the previous work, then the new product is the new canon. please correct me if I’m wrong.
Dave finoni catered for a small group. No one watched the cartoons. The cartoons were boring. Tbh the fact that anyone. Return of the Jedi had the biggest problem with Ewoks defeating the empire anyway. I was a child and any other child recognised that as stupid. Nothing is new.
What do you mean Kathy doesn't want any of the blame on her so it goes to Dave? Please write down what you want to say first and read it back before recording your commentary, because if you think it through what she wants and what she will get will be two very different things, she can't control backlash.
I vote no confidence in Dave Filoni. Disney/ Lucasfilm I have stories to out pace The Infinity Saga! Give Hope a chance and give fans the Lucasfilm movies they deserve! Have Hope fans!
They have worked on other projects. Willow sucked, Indiana Jones? The purge is the best idea Kennedy hates Star Wars, we need to move her on. I know it’s Black Rock and Iger, but she has been especially terrible on her own.
They want to make good Star Wars now? Fire everyone and hire me… fix it for half what they spent on the last 3 movies and make it successful again in half the time.
He did make Clone Wars series but was be told how to make it because that was good, and he can not make good stuff. As here is the real work he did he made Ashoka, The Book of Boba Fett, and the rest of the Star Wars show trash since Disney got Star Wars I even put The Mandalorian in there it was not that great just better then the movies KK made. He was not going to save Star Wars I hayed hearing that, no one is saving Star Wars it is a dead, you can not bring it back. He was and is KK's little buddy hence all his work getting okay by KK. She knows he well tow the line, Dave Filoni should be Dave Phony also Filoni and Phony sould so alike that should have been another clue.
@achaudhari101 Oh, you have brain damage. I'm sorry to hear that. Doesn't change the fact that he is a phony. He always has been, and always will be. He has done nothing but crap out garbage, and he is praised by you worshippers as if he is the savior of Star Wars.
There is no saving Star Wars from anyone in Hollywood, the culture will not permit real change. And do you really think the cowboy from the Village People is the man for the job? 😄😄😅
The reality is that disney is trying really hard to make Star Wars and mcu into a girl brands and the girls just aren't interested in it, and the men are losing interest in Star Wars and the mcu in general
The key comment I thought was he is looking long term. From it it sounds like to me he is biding his time for KK to get out. in my opinion the final version of the Mando movie will be completed after Kennedy is gone unless she is renewed. I think what the version will be is what Dave and John could be working on now.
《The Wizard of Diz》 "Are you a Good Wolf, or a Bad Wolf?" "Who, me? I'm not a Wolf at all. I'm Dave Filoni, from Pennsylvania" "Oh. Well, is that the Wolf?" "Who, the Witch? That's my Wife!!!" 👽 🖖 🤖 "there's good in him...i know...i know there's still..."
Dave Filoni has always been terrible before Disney. He retconned so much of the EU with TCW and kept Ahsoka alive even though George Lucas wanted her dead.
I agree with Jonas re: harry potter. Filoni's wife identifies as a witch doesn't she, so it's pretty clear where the influence is coming from. I suppose Lucasfilm thought that Motherland: Fort Salem was a hit for Hulu with 300k viewership, so took cues from it to make more diverse lesbian non-binary witch centric shows.
Yeah, there's definitely that connection with Filoni and he is attributed to retconning a lot of Dathomir lore. That and witches are very on brand for Disney. It's a lay up to get that stuff in
I never liked Watto Filoni. I thought it was weird that so many adults watched a cartoon for kids. Ahsoka was trash. The damage has been done, and he was cool with it. I saw ROTJ in the theater at 10.
Dude who cares anymore screw Disney and everything involved with em. I'm unsubscribing from all the drama channels so i can just watch star wars theory and actually just watch stuff and hear star wars.
“All hat and no cattle” is what real cowboys say about poseurs.
Well said "Number 6."
@@Beckola44 he's not a number. He's a free man!!!!
@@EricHeidenAuthor I guess you are the new Number 2!
@@Beckola44 Who is No 1?
@@Puzzoozoo "YOU" are number 6.
We can see who he is through his various interviews. Beta male feminist is an accurate description.
Mark Hamil is the same thing now.
The wives strap it on...if you know what I mean ...
Cuckold is the term for Filoni
neutered.
If anything, it's too charitable a description.
Filoni is what you get when some fat old guy wins a Fan-Fiction contest, but when he's invited for the studio tour, they lose track of him and he never leaves.
His wife skulks about, "Honey, this would make a great place for my coven meetings. We'll cast spells to the great female darkness of the universe."
George Lucas is fat and old so I dont see what your point is, and in future try to make your point without being insulting, you CAN do it :)
Dave Filoni surrounded himself with talented people who made him look good.
When KK came in she fired those people.
Not complex.
That's a whole ass theory stop acting like you know shit
Surrounded him, more like co-op other people talent to flatter him with management.
Katie Lucas was one of those people that made him look good. She wrote about 15 episodes of TCW but has essentially disappeared from the industry after the Disney buy out of LucasFilm.
@@lordcarnorjax8599George’s daughter hmmm I wonder where she went
I don't know why so many people keep saying that, but Dave Filoni is NOT the creator of Clone Wars. And he didn't have as much to do with any of the series as a lot of people think he did. George Lucas was the creator of Clone Wars. He ALREADY had an outline and direction for the entire story in mind when he was writing the prequels, and you can easily discern that by the things Lucas left out deliberately and by the things he set up. Afterward, he hired people, including Filoni, to help him write what he already had in mind.
Rebels was good as well. You can go ahead and try to downplay what Filoni did. He did a great job .
@@derekfreeman1942
He’s a beta
Like you
@@derekfreeman1942so you were there observing and witnessing all of his greatness being put into action?
Catherine Winder hired Filoni not Lucas according to Star Wars Insider. Lucas didn't have TCW in mind until around 2004-2005 when the Microseries was airing and saw it's success. So Lucas decided to make an animation division and had his company create TCW under his supervision.
@@ironinquisitor3656 so what . IDC who hired him. George Lucas isn't even the best star wars writer so IDC the legends writers are better including the old Republic stories way better than his Jesus Anakin crap that was trash
He positioned himself perfectly, and KK positioned him perfectly as the new Lucas/Star Wars expert. Before Ahsoka I heard many many fans say “Filoni will save Star Wars” he’s clearly not.
No, he is not.
He won't "save" Star Wars.
He will faithfully continue Disney Wars.
Which is what KK wishes.
As long as KK lets him have his Ahsoka he will do her bidding.
Yeah, I remember so many content creators on this side, who’d tout “Cowboy Filoni” as the savior 🙄.
Ahsoka is basically his calling card as it was the only show he had full and absolute control, being not only the showrunner but also the only writer, with zero involvement of George Lucas anymore. With Clone Wars and Rebels, there were always other creatives heavily involved, which kind of makes it difficult to say who made what exactly. With Ahsoka it’s all Dave Filoni.
So yeah, we can now say that Dave Filoni is not capable to save Star Wars and that this idea left the building.
Timothy Zahn and Michael A Stackpole can write circles around this clown
Is anyone going to pick up that phone? Because EU fans like myself called it years ago. Filoni is a hack.
You were right. I feel no shame admitting I was wrong. I never thought he was amazing but I thought he was loyal to Lucas.
I also remember how before the Mandalorian there was too much fan worship of him. Yet he was honest in interviews and speeches about his leanings and so I refused to follow him.
I remember being berated in comments by many who were also anti-KK for my dislike of Filoni and warnings that he was not going to give them what they wanted.
And, well, here we are. I don’t want any apologies, I just wish people would see what was/is real and not what they desire in their heads.
Been year I said Felony is a fake empty shell surfing on the wave of someone else.
Jon Favereau have more credit than Felony
i said that on facebook and was labeled a baby by a bunch of closeminded fools...called "fans"
@@clonecommando-cn6bo They are not fans, they are consoomers. Fans actually care about quality and aren’t afraid to voice criticism, consoomers just lick the corporate boot without question.
Well he married the kind of woman who would have loved last nights opening ceremony.
Wearing a Gimp costume...
I think he has a wide backdoor due to all the violations
You mean the 2024 Olympics ceremony?
@@rabbittv8399 Yes
@@bulldogsbob Figured
Filoni lead to Ahsoka and allowed The Acolyte, so I have zero faith that he can do anything good within Star Wars.
This man just loves to add more questions than answered. And not in a good way. In fact, he’s undermining his characters and making them very unlikable.
Jon Favreau had them in a good spot at the end of Mando Season 2 and they ruined it, they pushed him aside, and did their own thing ruining what he had planned on purpose, if I was Jon I'd walk away, maybe make a new space opera if he really wants a space opera, but I'd walk away.
Jon is just too weak.
He wants to and identifies as a Hollywood player and can’t let go but he is weak and soft.
He’s brilliant but soft and weak.
Jon Favreau probably missed the point where he should have decoupled from Disney. He was pushed out of Marvel after starting the fire there, helped reigniting some fire for Star Wars just to be pushed out again and is now facing the downfall of his career if the Mando movie fails (and after all that happened after Mando season 2, it’s very likely that the Mando movie will fail).
I think Jon Favreau should have searched for a book/comic he likes to make a movie out of it with some other investors instead of Disney. He could have made the jump to be more independent imo.
Favreau needs to walk away from Disney/Star Wars/Marvel go to Universal and do some a** kicking movie for them. If I remember correctly, Universal owns the rights to Namor, The Sub-Mariner and Hulk. Which is why Mark Ruffalo only does appearances in other movies as Hulk and why we got Nammmmmooooorrrrr. Give fans the real Namor and Hulk and he can rub Iger & KK face in it.
Favreau wasn’t pushed out. Just some garbage from bad leakers.
Is anyone surprised? I’ve been calling Filoni a fraud for years and all I got was backlash. The guy is so mediocre it hurts. He may have been George Lucas’s apprentice, but he didn’t do a good job of listening. Don’t even get me started on his crutch characters like Ahsoka and Sabine. All he does is stick them in everything
George Lucas has never called Dave his apprentice to my knowledge, that's what LucasFilm under KK has tried to put out there.
@@johnscott7210 that would make a lot of sense
I know how you feel Felony is a fraud a fake riding on the wave of others.
I don’t understand why people say he saved Star Wars pffft
I prefer Jon Favereau 1000 time
so did i because his fans smell farts from that domestic animal that farted in front of jar jar while he was helping anakin with his podracer
@@johnscott7210 and so did everyone else who said "chill out, its just star wars"
Filoni writes like a child playing with toys.
A child would write something more fun than this. What Dave did with Ahsoka, it was incrediably dull.
If you are critical of the Filoniverse it triggers some people really bad, it's fun playing with them. He has some ardent fans, they hate the OT because Ahsoka isn't in it and she is the most important character ever.
@@dmac3183 Not at first. It was just after all the build up with the search for Ezra Bridger, it was set up for a great story, but all that potiental just ran flat, cause Dave (supposdely) got all butt hurt over the shipping between Ezra and Sabine, even though we didn't push it too far. While I still hope a romance to still be on the tabble, as of right now, it looks like the only that can justify Sabine's crazy motivation and actions the lead to Thrawn's return and the Galaxy being doomed. It's a mess and it needs to be fixed.
@coletrain583 as someone who didn't have the time to watch it but now enjoys listening a lot of lore videos while working, I always find it jarring when it jumps from EU to Filoniverse. I often wondered if he was good, because the stuff I attempted to watch that he was involved in is crud. He is also Chief of Content so should have tighter reigns on creative. I was 5 when Empire was released, massive part of my Youth now it sucks. Disappointed in Hamill wishing the end of someone's life, I guess Jake is really him. Clone Wars fans are also being done dirty I understand, they are making it nowadays for a Californianaudience.
A child would have more imagination than Filoni has. The last Star Wars I watched was Ahsoka. I cancelled Disney+ afterward and won't be watching any more Disney Star Wars.
Favreau > Filoni
both are trash
@@pg9193No. Now Acolyte, Andor, Mando Season 3, Ashoka, and Book of Boba are utter garbage. Leave Favreau out of this. Filoni is overrated (I never was a fan) but this witch-hunt is getting old.
Andor is pretty damn good, but to each their own. @@ironrex6979
Favreau has been a recognized talent as a writer and director since the movie Swingers in the early 90s, and he has built a pretty decent career as a character actor.
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Agreed. Favreau has an excellent understanding of characters and story.
It was blatantly obvious from the beginning that BOBF and Mando S3 didn't come from him.
Anyone who says otherwise hasn't been paying attention.
It would be amazing if Kennedy let him make his own movie but I seriously doubt it.
I have one thing to say regarding Feloni:
He can screw off and take his witches with him.
Filoni has no gift for his craft even after spending years with Lucas. As they say in Texas, big hat, no ranch.
That's " All hat and no cattle"!
From what I heard recently, Filoni is not exactly one to hold canon nearly sacred as we the fans do. Apparently he paves over even what he writes, so my expectations are not moved from the deep pit they are.
Dave is the bully in the sand pit who kicks others sand castles down. I can say with certainty that TCW by extension felony because he ran that show caused most of the retcons in the old expanded universe, not even the movies were safe from Filoni who sees the whole thing as a sand pit without single thought of the stuff made by others including George.
Filoni is no writer, and now we now, is a shill. The Acolyte alone means he should step back. That was absolutely terrible. I know I could do better.
Fans fictions and movies are better mDe than what Felony write
It's really cool for Knee Payne to come back and figure out how he can speak about his industry concerns with the appropriate boundaries, as I think he got spooked earlier not having addressed a larger audience before.
I was one of the first people to say if you're expecting foney filoni and favreau to save the franchise, you are delusional. Man did that ever age well. They do as they are told like EVERY other disney employee. There is no such a thing as rogue employees there. I don't care what these people are supposedly like. They are puppets the same as the rest.
It took a long time for people to catch onto Filoni. We're finally there. People still have reverence for Favreau and HATE when I place the failings of Boba and Mando season 3 on his shoulders but people need to stop making excuses. No one is saving SW
Remember the never ending chorus of "Thank you Dave Filoni! Squeeeee!" coming from the shill channels?
Feloni is no different than Headland when it comes to Star Wars, they just treated as their personal fantasy/therapy sandbox not caring how they affect it.
Also the push for witches is true comes from the next step in Feminism Extremist, which no doubt his wife is all in favor and probably the inspiration for all thia witch focused plots.
Still lots of respect lost for him and Hidalgo, men who supposedly eere task with helping and protecting the Star Wars franchise, and now they are their biggest destroyers.
Lore Destroyers and Super Lore Destroyers?
Filoni has been corrupting George Lucas's vision of Star Wars since the day he got the job.
Filoni even made excuses for adding Durge in clone wars
FIRE DAVE FILONI!
Knee Payne looked scared.
The WOLVES TOOK ME OUT of STAR WARS. I wasn't as engaged in the episodes when the wolves where in the story, and I LOVE WOLVES. Didn't work for me.
Same
John fav already fixed Star Wars once and I don’t think it can be done again
Shame on you WDWPro! How dare you say Filoni made Clone Wars. George Lucas was responsible for Clone Wars. Filoni was responsible for Rebels and Bad Batch. Get it right!
Oh look, he only made this pile of dogshit and not that pile pf dogshit. Your desire to put sense to children’s cartoons as an adult then i question your morals
Dave Filoni needs a regulator. Someone to keep him from being too... Dave Filoni. There was a similar problem with Neil Druckmann of Naughty Dogg.
Marvel Comics just killed Deadpool to be replaced by his daughter
The “ future is female”, haven’t ya heard?
Leave it to Marvel Comics to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Another comic that virtually no-one will bother with.
@@craigshepherd2928 Buh-but the modern audience will make it a best seller!!
@@lunarvision Apparently the sale of new comics were down by 73% between 2022 and 2023. There doesn't appear to be a modern audience.
Ahsoka was an absolute banger and cemented his legitimacy not only upon star wars but certeinly within live action cinema as well. The writing in ahsoka is an homage to the original trilogy. Just imo
i think you guys missed the mark about the witches in Star Wars. the night sisters are a massive influence in the clone wars series, especially when it comes to the back stories of maul and savage.
Please, please make Asokha season 2. I won't watch it, but the RUclips mockery videos would make my year.
Star Wars needs a show runner from HBO, it has not evolved in its storytelling while IPs like Dune and GOT are mastering the sci fi/fantasy genre.
star wars had a hijacking and it is george lucas's greatest regret more than Howard the duck or the christmas special
Dave FailOnly has failed me for the last time
The wolves are because he is obsessed with them and wants wolves to be the center of the spiritual universal existence something something Princess Mononoke for justification.
His goal was always to make Ashoka *the true main character of Star Wars.* Replacing both Anakin, Luke and possibly even Rey if he outlast Kennedy. To do that, he needed to put her in live action. So he has done everything he can to weasel himself into a position to do that. Helped Rian Johnson before that turned toxic. Helped Favreau in the first season, then slowly took over from there. Helping Headland then retreating when Acolyte flopped. Overall, being completely subservient and unquestionably loyal to Kennedy.
Nightsister Merrin from Fallen Order was popular and his wife is into witchcraft.
And quite a few Filoni fanboys do consider Ahsoka to be the face of the franchise. The only question is whether or not they're numerous enough to keep the franchise going.
@@reidmason2551 The fact that the franchise is in the toilet does not make that a good thing, but Filoni probably would be content if she was queen of the ruins.
They don't have the numbers. Remember Ahsoka season 1. Its only positive at the moment is that it is not the Acolyte. Season 2 is were we are going to see her rise or fall. As she going to defeat Thrawn because he feels that if Ahsoka defeats him, she will become better than Thrawn. Who is very popular with the fanbase.
@@reidmason2551Ahsoka wasn’t a success. There is a reason nobody arguing for Ahsoka compares the ratings with Mandalorian season 1 or 2, which were together the peak of Star Wars on Disney+, despite subscriber numbers only going up since then.
Let‘s be honest, if it wasn’t Dave Filoni‘s baby, Ahsoka wouldn’t get a second season, because why should it? It’s not specifically good, didn’t get a good enough audience to begin with and will not gather a cult following in the future (something Andor may be able due to a better quality in storytelling). And worst of all, the only slightly interesting villain of Ahsoka lost its actor (😢).
Won’t be seeing any film that comes out
Ever.✊
You know, nobody has bothered to mention Bryce Dallas Howard at all. Granted, she probably wants to stay as far away from any Lucasfilm...anything right now, but she has been the 1 shining star and no one has bothered or thought about her. She's been probably one of the top 3 or 4 directors at Lucasfilm and SHE'S the one who deserves a shot. Definitely NOT Leslie Headland.
That first episode of Mando she directed still sticks with me four years later.
She's a decent director. I don't necessarily know what acumen she has for helming an entire SW project. But I'd be open if the writers and concept were their
Shame on Dave Filoni.
For what?
Hollywood and the gaming industry forgot the number 1 rule of business, the customer is always right. If you've worked in any kind of customer service, you know for a fact that isn't true lol, but the idea is that if you keep your fans happy, they will be a LOT more willing to give you money. But instead of giving fans what they want, they try to squeeze every last penny out of them and destroy any good will they had.
People don't hate Disney Star wars because they're misogynistic, they hate it because the writing is trash and Disney keeps forcing their agenda down peoples throat in a not so subtle way.
People don't hate EA because their games are trash, they hate them them because they keep using scummy tactics to nickel and dime them.
Give the customers what they want, keep your fan base happy, and rake in the cash. I don't understand why this is such a hard concept for these businesses to understand.
I didn't know him and just went by what some said that he could be able to save Star Wars because "muh George Lucas' padawan". I was sceptical as I usually do when too many people parrot the same thing for too long without any proof to backup their claims. It seems we were mostly correct to think that Filoni only is there for the bucks and the clout and not because of any genuine love and respect for the original Star Wars universe. I think the only thing he learnt from George was to do the exact opposite of what his master wanted to do.
Ep7 The Farce Awakens, Ep8 The Last Straw, Ep9 The Rise of Apathy...DOA Disney Straw Wars
Theres no need for this many witches in Star Wars
I can't help but think that while Filoni is not unskilled or a particularly bad creator, I do think he benefitted from George's input all those years. I also think while he has "convictions" about what he wants at the current time, he's not the kind of person who really thinks for themselves and sticks to his own beliefs and ideas. So after George leaves and he's influenced by others, his creative ideas change over the years to adapt to those modern trends and the change in his own personal beliefs that are driven by outside forces, which is honestly really common. It takes a rather eccentric person to resist such things.
I remember Filoni crying during his panel at celebration with the Clone Wars voice actors.
It always looked like guilt to me.
Like maybe he realised he had betrayed every fan and employee who once looked up to him.
This was the same celebration where Favreau left him trailing behind after their joint interview, like he couldn't wait to get away from him.
Was this the one where JF had to explain to him that Luke was a Jedi?
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Don't recall that.
Did that actually happen?
@@jkdbuck7670What??!
With the most respect to Lew Wasserman’s Ghost, the Industry passed him by a very long time ago, by the time he was 70!
You have a group of people that are unable to stand on the shoulders of George Lucas. They've tried and failed to breakaway from the original characters George created.
He should play Estrogen in Inside Out 3.
Let's see where this one goes.
I don't want Disney to save anything. I don't want anything more from these people who have made it abundantly clear over the years what their plans are and what their attitude is. And especially not in connection with children. You can't trust these people anymore. The damage these people have caused is irreparable and no matter what they produce, you ALWAYS know what intentions are behind it and which sick people it comes from.
Then you’re a lousy excuse of a fan.
As far as I'm concerned, Filoni is a pdf file. Like why was Ahsoka dressed in so little until she became an adult? Like ok, if he dressed her down in Rebels and on, that'd be one thing, but it went the opposite way. Was she his Alice in Wonderland?
It certainly raises some eyebrows. Although some people swear Ahsoka and TCW were mostly George. So who can say for sure?
I am always wary of hearsay
Bring back firing people who fail… that will fix things, this is like the Enron big failure bank level of mismanagement and shocking Disney can afford this level of failure.
The damage is catastrophic for Star Wars, they are going to run it into the ground and no fans will be left…
Fire “Cowbaby Dave”!!!!
Fire the guy that’s keeping SW together? Think before responding next time?
There’s a very easy solution to this. Allow Filoni to finish the Heir to the Empire storyline without any Kennedy interference, release Andor season 2, completely scrap everything else, then completely stop making SW content.
5 years later, revisit the franchise. Maybe do a Vader series 100% based on the comic. Either live action or Clone Wars animation will work.
I clicked on this because of the headline, but we are already 5 mins in to a 12 minute video but you still have not began to discuss the subject - Dave (shrug)
Filoni uses crayons to write with.
Dave Filoni Always has been and always will be a Hack writer he had a one hit wonder with the character Ahsoka I know he is well liked even by Gorge Lucas but the light does not shine out of his ass he is only good at writing non cannon cartoons.
Ahwoka is no wonder. There is even a channel dedicated to autistic dissection of how awful and toxic this character is. Some of it is nitpicking, but they are mostly right. She is a badly written character, she doesn´t really grow through the show, just in the frame of one episode or one arc, then it is all reseted and she acts recklessly and egoistically again, and again, and again...
The last season is the absolutely worst. She helps a known terr0rist, slaver and criminal with no redeeming qualities to take over the planet she was attacking for years with her group of space ISIS/Na*is to dethrone the legitimate ruler. Maul is used as a scapegoat to justify the illegal intervention and to shift the blame for the death of the clones from Ahwoka, who is totally responsible for it, on him. Because MaUL BaD, so Ahwoka and Bo-Tox GoOd. Failoni´s peak writing...
@@Mouse_MetalWhat channel?
@@ethansnyder3401 I´mYourAlibi
When I worked in comics and they told me A. They were canceling my projects again and B. They were bringing back a certain Marvel/DC writer who wasn't happy with her lack of creativity they said this and I quote:
"They don't want that (sci-fi), they want Black witches."
I had a laugh though. They kept harping on "authentic voices." So as a Pagan I asked "So which gods/goddesses did they work with?" Naturally, the answer was they weren't Pagan.
How can witches not be pagan? What they used?
@@Hello-bi1pm I don't know what religion the writer was. Just found it ironic the head was preaching "authenticity" and "culture" until this particular writer came back. Seems watching Fort Salem makes you qualified lol.
They don’t need a 10yr timeout. They need to fire every woke staff member including Filoni!
They might not have a company if they do that lol 😂
Anyone who had high hopes of Dave saving Star Wars should know that he is fully down with the woke agenda, this is how he has ingratiated himself with KK.
Dave wants to be Robert Rodriguez so bad. He can’t pull off the hat.
I don’t remember how the code exactly goes, but I believe a statement attributed to Dave Filoni is he said existing cannon is over written by new creations. Someone please correct me if I’m wrong.
You should have done more research. I quick google search reveals the The Nightsisters AKA Witches were created by Dave Wolverton, and first appeared in his Star Wars Legends 1994 novel The Courtship of Princess Leia. It was also then pulled in the animated series the clone wars and was heavily used.
If only Dave Filoni wasn't Davi Filoni.
Or if he was. At least what thought he was.
Does anyone else find it funny, that YT offers to translate the OP?
Dave is a fantastic artist. During Rebels, he probably had 100 ideas where 80% weren't exactly on track. Yet, he had George there to speak with. Fast forward now, and the training wheels are gone. George isn't around anymore, and fine-tuning on-track ideas are gone.
To fix all this. Disney must find a director who has become more familiar with SW Universe than watching large-screen movies. They must dig into the comics, books, games, read the lore, character backstories, etc. The actors they find don't need to have the same in-depth knowledge, but at least be fans of the show. Enough, they don't want to create something out of place for themselves/their character. In the Acolyte series, it was painfully evident that the actors didn't know about Star Wars, the writing was poor, and the direction was inadequate. This results in poor performances from even the best actors. Consider the mediocre performance of Harrison Ford in the Disney SW movies. It's not even close to his finest work.
Deadpool was wrong. Dave Filoni is proof pegging isn’t new to Disney. KK’s been doing that to Filoni for years now. 🤦♂️😜🤣
1- Witches from Acolyte: His involvment was just "yeah sure there is some witches in SW" Acolyte was already greenlighted when he got promoted. Blaming it on him is a bit far fetched.
2- KK will sign of on anything female centric.
3- Wolves, well ... He likes wolves.
My take on it is that Filoni is simply a SW director that tries to get project greenlighted and then accepts modifications from Storygroup/KK (put a chick in it and make her gay) to have it greenlighted.
Headland/storygroup/KK HAVE tried to shift the blame to filoni, and it's unfair to blame him for the Acolyte and probably some of the crap we have seen recently.
Orders from above must be obeyed.
I get the impression that the witches in Acolyte was more of a Headland thing than a Filoni. I get that Filoni has a hard on for the witches of Dathomir but I don't think he can claim that one. Another thing is witches seem to be on trend for Disney right now. Their girl boss execs absolutely love them as a symbol of female empowerment. Very on brand
@@ethansnyder3401 100%! When Feloni was promoted the acolyte had already been greenlighted. He’s a scapegoat.
Feloni has made mistakes, but it’s just a case à somebody that writes and does stuff that kk would accept as a project.
Hard to blame an employee who does what his direct employer wants.
Witches of dathomir is where they’re coming from
People keep saying that David Filoni can save SW but how can he do this while he is spreading his a** cheeks for Kathleen?
Filoni hasn’t produced anything I’m interested in. OG and EU prevail.
The Clone Wars were the beginning of the end of Star Wars, long before Disney. It ruined how children looked at Star Wars. It would be better off without him and Disney.
Disney's Star Wars should publicly apologize to the Fandom, they should fire Leslie Headline and remove her from the franchise completely. Next , they should remove or at least demote Kathleen Kennedy and fill her position with someone who will put good storytelling and content ahead of agenda. If they do that, then there might be a slim chance of saving the franchise, bringing back the loyal fans who built the franchise, and regain or at least boost the stock in Disney.
Never gonna happen. Headlamp and KK (especially Headlamp, Weinstein's personal assistant) have way too much dirt on someone famous, that they'll only be removed by choice.
Try to make a conclusive analysis on both occult themes: lycanthropism and witchcraft
It is not just CLONE WARS and REBELS, but a continuity in AHSOKA (the Norse mythology in title sequence, Skoll and Hati) and the production comapny logo of 'Shoot to Midnight' with it's explicit _intersectionalist_ corporate agenda.
So this isn't just Joseph Campbell stuff to ripoff mythologies?
@@Hello-bi1pm
"(...) this isn't just Joseph Campbell stuff to ripoff mythologies?"
It's a fair question if traces of that was with him or e.g. in earlier scripts like 'Empire Strikes Back' - when 'The Emperor' character shifted throughout drafts from a golden robed politician (possibly picked up, again in looks as the Snoke character that had no backstory) to a sort of sorcerer, eventually shooting lightning from his fingertips.
Witches were introduced by George Lucas in the 'Clone Wars' animated series - with the 'Night Sisters' as 'Dark Side' users.
The Disney 'Rebels' animated series appears to be first time, emphasizing wolves.
I'm hardly literate upon the lore of the Lucas 'Expanded Universe/Legends' of novels and the later canonized animated series, so I don't have a full picture.
But people who do, trace these elements solely to Dave Filoni.
I would argue that the theme of the Night Sisters and 'Dark Troopers' (undead super soldiers) fits well into the world building - I thought, it looked dramatic in the 'Ahsoka' series - when it was cartoonish writing that sunk the plot and resonance.
Considering a criticism of George Lucas - who didn't just sell the franchise, but had effectively merged Lucasfilm with Disney when paid in shares - there is a great documentary by DuduFilm on the spirituality of 'Star Wars' - and the subconcious 'culture war' can be regarded as a struggle whether the stories should symbolize intersectionalist 'progressive' politics (without de facto emancipating anybody at the workplace) or whether they should renew traditional storytelling toward profound traditional images of man - as partially outlined by Joseph Campbell's 'Hero's Journey'.
In the end, these stories will always end up as commercial 'culture industry' rather than actual culture/subculture...
I don’t remember how the quote exactly goes, but I believe a statement attributed to Dave Filoni is he said existing cannon is over written by new creations. So if a new show or movie comes out and contradicts the previous work, then the new product is the new canon. please correct me if I’m wrong.
Dave Da Phony
It’s Dave Jabroni!!
Dave finoni catered for a small group. No one watched the cartoons. The cartoons were boring. Tbh the fact that anyone. Return of the Jedi had the biggest problem with Ewoks defeating the empire anyway. I was a child and any other child recognised that as stupid. Nothing is new.
Dave FELONY didn't create SW:TCW, George Lucas did!
What do you mean Kathy doesn't want any of the blame on her so it goes to Dave? Please write down what you want to say first and read it back before recording your commentary, because if you think it through what she wants and what she will get will be two very different things, she can't control backlash.
But then again I hate them both!
I wasn’t looking forward to mando season 4 for free on Disney +…u better believe I’m not spending $ to watch in theaters
I found a villain in this comment.
I vote no confidence in Dave Filoni. Disney/ Lucasfilm I have stories to out pace The Infinity Saga! Give Hope a chance and give fans the Lucasfilm movies they deserve! Have Hope fans!
They have worked on other projects. Willow sucked, Indiana Jones? The purge is the best idea Kennedy hates Star Wars, we need to move her on. I know it’s Black Rock and Iger, but she has been especially terrible on her own.
They want to make good Star Wars now? Fire everyone and hire me… fix it for half what they spent on the last 3 movies and make it successful again in half the time.
Problem is Wokeness is surrounding the IP
He did make Clone Wars series but was be told how to make it because that was good, and he can not make good stuff. As here is the real work he did he made Ashoka, The Book of Boba Fett, and the rest of the Star Wars show trash since Disney got Star Wars I even put The Mandalorian in there it was not that great just better then the movies KK made.
He was not going to save Star Wars I hayed hearing that, no one is saving Star Wars it is a dead, you can not bring it back. He was and is KK's little buddy hence all his work getting okay by KK. She knows he well tow the line, Dave Filoni should be Dave Phony also Filoni and Phony sould so alike that should have been another clue.
I've been calling him Dave The Phoney for years now. I am glad y'all are finally catching up.
No he isn’t.
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He isn't what? Phoney? He absolutely 100% is.
@@jeremiah6462 No he isn’t. That’s the brain damage talking.
@achaudhari101
Oh, you have brain damage. I'm sorry to hear that. Doesn't change the fact that he is a phony. He always has been, and always will be. He has done nothing but crap out garbage, and he is praised by you worshippers as if he is the savior of Star Wars.
Listen to any OG fan of the EU/Legends and they can tell you all about Filoni
There is no saving Star Wars from anyone in Hollywood, the culture will not permit real change. And do you really think the cowboy from the Village People is the man for the job? 😄😄😅
Bob lieger would hate it too!
The reality is that disney is trying really hard to make Star Wars and mcu into a girl brands and the girls just aren't interested in it, and the men are losing interest in Star Wars and the mcu in general
The key comment I thought was he is looking long term. From it it sounds like to me he is biding his time for KK to get out. in my opinion the final version of the Mando movie will be completed after Kennedy is gone unless she is renewed. I think what the version will be is what Dave and John could be working on now.
"Speaks out"? What exactly did he "speak out" on? This video gave us no answers. More non-answers if anything. What's with the sensationalism?
《The Wizard of Diz》
"Are you a Good Wolf, or a Bad Wolf?"
"Who, me? I'm not a Wolf at all. I'm Dave Filoni, from Pennsylvania"
"Oh. Well, is that the Wolf?"
"Who, the Witch? That's my Wife!!!"
👽 🖖 🤖
"there's good in him...i know...i know there's still..."
Dave Filoni has always been terrible before Disney. He retconned so much of the EU with TCW and kept Ahsoka alive even though George Lucas wanted her dead.
Surely Deadpool and Wolverine have lots of witches and wolves though right? Fans love witches and wolves
I agree with Jonas re: harry potter. Filoni's wife identifies as a witch doesn't she, so it's pretty clear where the influence is coming from. I suppose Lucasfilm thought that Motherland: Fort Salem was a hit for Hulu with 300k viewership, so took cues from it to make more diverse lesbian non-binary witch centric shows.
Yeah, there's definitely that connection with Filoni and he is attributed to retconning a lot of Dathomir lore. That and witches are very on brand for Disney. It's a lay up to get that stuff in
I never liked Watto Filoni. I thought it was weird that so many adults watched a cartoon for kids. Ahsoka was trash. The damage has been done, and he was cool with it. I saw ROTJ in the theater at 10.
Lmao he looks like a Toydarian
@chris424cm Your rant on Clone Wars is wrong based on the tone.
What role has John Favreau actually? As far as I remember all of the good things were produced in cooperation with him.
In Star Wars Dave is out of his depth, and the longer this goes on, the more it will be shown he's out of his depth.
As an actual witch, I hate it lol
Dude who cares anymore screw Disney and everything involved with em. I'm unsubscribing from all the drama channels so i can just watch star wars theory and actually just watch stuff and hear star wars.