Despite the dagger's lower accumilative stagger build-up, it's charge attack is pretty hefty to interrupt a foe. Dagger is still an absolute menace on a staggered foe, and it's only one slot but with near 100% melee uptime with kicks. (Still puts the user in way too much danger with regular slashes vs a active foe)
Not only is this a great build but also just a phenomenal video very well said and easy to understand. I hope you continue to make voiced over builds like this the quality is top notch!
A lot of melee builds use ranged weapons to build up stagger, and then punish with a melee weapon, or use melee for everything with zimmermans to string together combos. I find this build quite interesting since the wuergers are part of both the setup and the execution. One thing I will add is I didn't see you using the dagger as an approach option: don't underestimate the ability to close distance with melee QB cancels, since their inital dash goes far for less EN, and the dagger can be an excellent pressure tool on unstaggered opponents in a pinch too. You can also mixup by melee cancelling into a kick, which can be useful at times.
Hey I'm glad you found it interesting! You are definitely right that I need to include melee cancel movement into my gameplay. I find it a bit difficult on this build since the dagger is on a weapon bay swap, but that's no real excuse, I just need to practice it more!
@@TylerDoesGaming once you do there's nothing quite as addicting. Still remember watching someone quickboost past me while I swung my sword, only to 180 and cut them in half haha.
Perhaps foreshadowed by its design looking like a katar, you could say that the wuerger is pretty much a right hand melee weapon and I like that that's how you use it.
Incredibly well thought out build, very impressive work here. The real killer here is learning wjen to commit to the full combo or to back off with a shotgun blast
@@TylerDoesGaming This build is so fun to play! I'm absolutely decimating missions I once thought were so hard with it! Plus completing NG+ arena challenges in
You got me to finally try the wuerger. I've always picked the 66LS for its spread at range. One of each and an Aurora might be a good option giving reach into longer ranges. All around great vid that opened me up to heavier bodied melee builds and a wpn I've put off trying.
I've been using a build utilizing the wurggers and laser dagger but I felt like something is off with it, turns out it was the generator. Glad I saw your video coz it made me realize it. Also 420 like on the video as of this writing I wouldn't want to break it, but yeah really like your video.
This is a very well-made and well-explained video! I've been running a similar combo build, though I used the Laser Slicer instead. A bit flashier, a bit more reach, and holds them there to get shot by laser orbits. Sometimes I take the opposite approach to the MOONDIAL: go a bit heavier, and take LRB Rifle over the Wuerger to shore up the range rather than the speed.
Wow! For the longest time I've only been doing 2 hit combos on my laser dagger and finish with wuerger's charge, didn't know 3hit combos also create a true combo with wuerger's charge attack
honestly interesting how similar this build is to one of my current builds which focuses on the wuerger/laser dagger combo, however i only use one wuerger and instead have the two aurora lightwave canons because of the recent buffs they got from en specialization and less en load. perhaps ill look into having double wuergers. My build also very much focuses on speed and I might as well share it while I'm here: Unit parts: Wuerger Shotgun VP-67LD Laser Dagger IA-C01W3: Aurora Canons (both shoulders) Frame parts: Mind Beta head (high attitude stability and looks cool) Mind Alpha body (relatively high generator output without sacrificing defense) basho arms (high melee specialization) EL-PL-00 Alba legs (lightweight and has a high enough load limit to support everything while looking good) Inner parts: Alula/21E booster (great quickboosts and high speed) FCS-G2/P10SLT (The missile lock-correction stat maxed FCS) VE-20B (EN specialization)
love the build love the video, love your commentary. you do a great job explaining how the build works and the flow of the combat in the matches. I've been obsessed with the energy weapons in this game, they're so underrated :( I also love iterating on my AC designs, I'll just have four save slots with the same paint job in a row (especially when you can create a theme for the iterations!! love that.). i love the loop of perfecting a build, and then thinking "okay but what if i change... this!" and go down another rabbit hole. time to go iterate on YOUR design >:) cheers!
if you're curious, the parts i've added are the Alula booster (for the speed and cheaper quick booster, plus better assault boost and melee attack thrust ), ocellus fcs (to make up for the basho's low firearm specialization at close range), and ephemera core (for the much better booster efficiency, plus this brings the weight down so the alula quick boost is only punished by .03). AP is still over 10k and attitude stability is just under 1900, a solid compromise for me!
@@TylerDoesGaming I tried to use the Plasma weapons and I don't know about them. Seems more like a pvp thing. I will say those Laser Pistols were actually dope. Those with the Long Laser Shotgun and Twin Blade made pretty short work of basically anything.
I put together a variation of Moonshot. I opted for the Ocellus to focus harder on close-range, and I swapped for the Mind Alpha core and legs to speed up. MAN this build is BRUTAL! It’s managed to S rank just about every mission!
Its kinda interesting how i naturally ended up on smth similiar to this build while trying to perfect my wuerger AC but also went a very different direction. My current build is also heavier dual wuerger AC with buerzal booster for its powerful AB stat and uses a combinations of vertical missles and active homing ones to divide my opponents attention while I close in with my dual weurgers. That said I think Im losing out quite a bit in speed due to needing the VE-20C so seeing your approach to avoiding that definitely inspires me to tinker with that even further.
Very nice combo! I use the Lazer dagger with the other EN shotgun since I can open with a charge shot, hit the dagger combo, & finish with another charge shot.
I've been messing aroung with the wuegers on my own, and managed to make a pretty decent build of my own. But this? This is a crazy build! Thanks for sharing it to the world, cant wait to melt some scrubs with it!
Thank you so much, I'm glad you like it! I have been really enjoying using ultra light weight weapons and putting more weight budget into defenses. It's a really strong setup!
@@TylerDoesGaming i thought that 1.04 was a minor patch, and the last big balance was in 1.02, could be dead wring tho. Wuerger stats on the wiki says chrg atk is 1459, which is becomes 1820. The doc also says that theyre changes coming to 1.05 alongside the new parts
For your first build I would really use the vertical plasma missiles instead. They hit 90% of the time and really helps with that extra little stagger. For the second build I would drop the laser orbits as they are pretty bad, the laser turret, laser drones or even a huxley are far better choices. The laser turret would be my choice since they buffed it and it's really strong for a fire and forget weapon. As for boosters, for these builds maybe a booster that has low energy consumption on assault boosts might be a better choice to chase enemies. Imma steal your build though 😁
Hey thanks for the input! Yes vertical plasmas are a great choice in general, their hit rate is excellent. However for that build it would sacrifice some of the already tight supply efficiency. Its always a tradeoff :) There are definitely some good alternatives to the laser orbit on the second build for sure. Huxley shorter range might not be the best, but the newly buffer Aurora might be a great choice now. Not only does it scale with generators for damage, but it also scales its reload time off the generators too. The buff was really quite substantial, I've been toying with them today. They make a good poke tool and also a great punish tool with their newly buffed direct hit adjustment. Regarding boosters, yes for sure, it totally depends what your goal is. For pvp in particular the buerzal booster is probably a good choice with the latest patch. Thanks again for the input!
I've been running something similar lately. Mine centers more around speed, with my only energy weapons being the pokey shotguns (as I call them) and my back weapons being dual 4 shot missile launchers for smaller enemies and to reserve ammo (and overall energy) on the Wuergers. I've been able to handle very difficult missions with an AC that has less than 9000 AP to my surprise. I call it "Hedgehog"
Sounds like a lot of fun! For back weapons have you tried the newly buffed Aurora? The energy spec stat on generators not only buffs the damage, but also reduced its reload time. The buff was very substantial!
I've been working on a very similar build, expect I use the Laser Slicer instead of the Dagger. I'll be honest, stats wise, I like your build. I just couldn't bring myself to give up the lunge speed I get from the Kikaku boosters. I would suggest trying the Aurora on the right shoulder and Sampu on the left. Since the Aurora damage scales with your EN Firearm Spec and the Laser Orbit does not.
This build relies a lot less on melee canceling (but he DEFINITELY could benefit from the technique) so he really doesn't need the high melee boosts of the Gridwalkers or Kikaku. I 100% agree on the Aurora swap though, either that or a Huxley if he really wants an Orbit for constant pressure.
I ran a reverse joint AC using dagger, Zim, laser drones and a shield, to pressure with kicks and shotgun shots while covered on the shield to pressure while using the dagger dash to chase and stagger punish, while the drones help keep and build stagger/add into the stagger punish. What you think of a combo like that? im implementing that combos you showed and with the RJ kick it do deliver a punch so thanks for it.
Sounds solid! Keep in mind your shield will drop when quick boosting or assault boosting. Kicks are great though. Very important to learn and weave into your attacks!
I dont believe the wuerger was buffed directly no. However, the extensive balancing patches have brought the overperforming weapons down a little bit to be more in line with the wuerger. :)
@@TylerDoesGaming I am perplexed at the idea that having "*LASER SHOTGUN “WUERGER/66E: increased Chg. Attack Power / Cooling, decreased Charge Time. Now takes less time for cooling to start*" is not a direct buff in patch 1.04.1, I must admit :)
@Draconis_Eltanin oh man! A new patch just dropped! And they buffed 3/4 of the weapons this build uses! Haha amazing! My apologies for the confusion, I had no idea a new patch dropped just now! This is a really fun surprise!
I am glad you enjoyed the video! You can definitely make the build work earlier by using the 20c 128 energy firearm generator. You will need to drop some weight elsewhere though to compensate. I suggest legs and/core swap to make the weight fit. Good luck!
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Despite the dagger's lower accumilative stagger build-up, it's charge attack is pretty hefty to interrupt a foe.
Dagger is still an absolute menace on a staggered foe, and it's only one slot but with near 100% melee uptime with kicks.
(Still puts the user in way too much danger with regular slashes vs a active foe)
Not only is this a great build but also just a phenomenal video very well said and easy to understand. I hope you continue to make voiced over builds like this the quality is top notch!
Thank you so much, I am glad you enjoyed it! I have some great ideas for more projects, I just need to find some time to dig into it!
A lot of melee builds use ranged weapons to build up stagger, and then punish with a melee weapon, or use melee for everything with zimmermans to string together combos. I find this build quite interesting since the wuergers are part of both the setup and the execution.
One thing I will add is I didn't see you using the dagger as an approach option: don't underestimate the ability to close distance with melee QB cancels, since their inital dash goes far for less EN, and the dagger can be an excellent pressure tool on unstaggered opponents in a pinch too. You can also mixup by melee cancelling into a kick, which can be useful at times.
Hey I'm glad you found it interesting! You are definitely right that I need to include melee cancel movement into my gameplay. I find it a bit difficult on this build since the dagger is on a weapon bay swap, but that's no real excuse, I just need to practice it more!
@@TylerDoesGaming once you do there's nothing quite as addicting. Still remember watching someone quickboost past me while I swung my sword, only to 180 and cut them in half haha.
Perhaps foreshadowed by its design looking like a katar, you could say that the wuerger is pretty much a right hand melee weapon and I like that that's how you use it.
Yo man this is a great video. It feels super accessible and easy to watch. Hope your still making these.
Incredibly well thought out build, very impressive work here. The real killer here is learning wjen to commit to the full combo or to back off with a shotgun blast
I enjoyed watching Sulla get destroyed :). Also agree with the others that this was a great video, thank you.
Thank you so much, I'm glad you liked it! I hope to have my next build video out soon!
@@TylerDoesGaming This build is so fun to play! I'm absolutely decimating missions I once thought were so hard with it! Plus completing NG+ arena challenges in
@@arzelaascoli6765Wow what a glowing review! I'm so glad you're enjoying it!
the moondial is my favorite loadout. the wuerger is a fantastic weapon and i think the laser pistol compliments it a lot.
Absolutely fantastic video, would love to see more weapon breakdowns and build-crafting in this style
Awesome I'm glad you liked it! More to come! :D
agreed
This build basically was my go to for 100%, the fact you can pre-charge while using the dagger is so nice.
Wow! I am so glad you got some great use out of it! It really is a very powerful build :)
You got me to finally try the wuerger. I've always picked the 66LS for its spread at range. One of each and an Aurora might be a good option giving reach into longer ranges. All around great vid that opened me up to heavier bodied melee builds and a wpn I've put off trying.
This guy gets it! Love the video man
Thank you so much, I'm glad you liked it!
Fantastic video and great explanations, definitely helped me understand building ACs better
Thnk you so much! I am glad you enjoyed it!
I've been using a build utilizing the wurggers and laser dagger but I felt like something is off with it, turns out it was the generator. Glad I saw your video coz it made me realize it. Also 420 like on the video as of this writing I wouldn't want to break it, but yeah really like your video.
Hey I'm glad you liked it, and I'm glad it helped! More to come soon!
Especially brutal after the 1.04.01 Wuerger buff
I should give the laser dagger a try!
Oh yeah for sure! Wuergers were already fantastic, now they are crazy good!
Now THIS is a build.
I'm glad you like it! More to come!
Love this shotgun and the dagger. Ive been using it with the laser blade tho. After a charged laser blade that charge shot comes out super sneaky
This is a very well-made and well-explained video!
I've been running a similar combo build, though I used the Laser Slicer instead. A bit flashier, a bit more reach, and holds them there to get shot by laser orbits.
Sometimes I take the opposite approach to the MOONDIAL: go a bit heavier, and take LRB Rifle over the Wuerger to shore up the range rather than the speed.
Awesome! I'm glad you liked the video :)
Sounds like some fun builds you've got!
Really great build and great video. Outstanding content here. Please keep it up!
Thank you so much! Working on the next build video right now! :)
Wow! For the longest time I've only been doing 2 hit combos on my laser dagger and finish with wuerger's charge, didn't know 3hit combos also create a true combo with wuerger's charge attack
honestly interesting how similar this build is to one of my current builds which focuses on the wuerger/laser dagger combo, however i only use one wuerger and instead have the two aurora lightwave canons because of the recent buffs they got from en specialization and less en load. perhaps ill look into having double wuergers.
My build also very much focuses on speed and I might as well share it while I'm here:
Unit parts:
Wuerger Shotgun
VP-67LD Laser Dagger
IA-C01W3: Aurora Canons (both shoulders)
Frame parts:
Mind Beta head (high attitude stability and looks cool)
Mind Alpha body (relatively high generator output without sacrificing defense)
basho arms (high melee specialization)
EL-PL-00 Alba legs (lightweight and has a high enough load limit to support everything while looking good)
Inner parts:
Alula/21E booster (great quickboosts and high speed)
FCS-G2/P10SLT (The missile lock-correction stat maxed FCS)
VE-20B (EN specialization)
Looks like a lot of fun!
I have really enjoyed the Aurora since the buffs.
It's one of the most powerful shoulder weapons when you build for it.
this is easily one of the better breakdowns I've seen
can't wait to see more, glad to be one of your first hundred subs😊
Wow, thank you so much! The next build video is coming soon!
Great first mic video
Thank you so much, I'm glad you liked it!
love the build love the video, love your commentary. you do a great job explaining how the build works and the flow of the combat in the matches. I've been obsessed with the energy weapons in this game, they're so underrated :( I also love iterating on my AC designs, I'll just have four save slots with the same paint job in a row (especially when you can create a theme for the iterations!! love that.). i love the loop of perfecting a build, and then thinking "okay but what if i change... this!" and go down another rabbit hole. time to go iterate on YOUR design >:) cheers!
if you're curious, the parts i've added are the Alula booster (for the speed and cheaper quick booster, plus better assault boost and melee attack thrust ), ocellus fcs (to make up for the basho's low firearm specialization at close range), and ephemera core (for the much better booster efficiency, plus this brings the weight down so the alula quick boost is only punished by .03). AP is still over 10k and attitude stability is just under 1900, a solid compromise for me!
Sounds like you had fun with it, that's great!
@@TylerDoesGaming indeed!
Been using dual wuergers with dual orbits on a light build and it slaps, definetly going to swap something out for the dagger now tho
I really slept on the laser weapons. Bullets are just so cool.
I think pretty much all the weapons are cool in their own way! From really outdid themselves on this game!
@@TylerDoesGaming I tried to use the Plasma weapons and I don't know about them. Seems more like a pvp thing. I will say those Laser Pistols were actually dope. Those with the Long Laser Shotgun and Twin Blade made pretty short work of basically anything.
@@alastor8091oh yeah! Laser pistols are solid overall! Very fun!
I put together a variation of Moonshot. I opted for the Ocellus to focus harder on close-range, and I swapped for the Mind Alpha core and legs to speed up. MAN this build is BRUTAL! It’s managed to S rank just about every mission!
That's awesome! The wuerger is obscenely powerful with the buff!
Its kinda interesting how i naturally ended up on smth similiar to this build while trying to perfect my wuerger AC but also went a very different direction. My current build is also heavier dual wuerger AC with buerzal booster for its powerful AB stat and uses a combinations of vertical missles and active homing ones to divide my opponents attention while I close in with my dual weurgers. That said I think Im losing out quite a bit in speed due to needing the VE-20C so seeing your approach to avoiding that definitely inspires me to tinker with that even further.
Excellent video!
Thank you very much, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Very nice combo! I use the Lazer dagger with the other EN shotgun since I can open with a charge shot, hit the dagger combo, & finish with another charge shot.
I have a build using these and 2 ORBT's on my back. It was able to touch-of-death combo both AC's in the coral convergence mission
Wuerger shotgun SLAPPED. Mix with rusty melee and a fast lightweight build I literally S class Ayre and Iguazu boss in 1st try. Really fun combo
Mad lad
Wuerger will always be the coolest gun in the game to me.
You get to PUNCH. LASERS. AT PEOPLE.
I can't believe they just buffed it too haha. It's amazing!
let’s hope he gets some more subs and views
Thanks for the positivity! I've got some fun ideas in the works!
I've been messing aroung with the wuegers on my own, and managed to make a pretty decent build of my own. But this? This is a crazy build! Thanks for sharing it to the world, cant wait to melt some scrubs with it!
Thank you so much, I'm glad you like it!
I have been really enjoying using ultra light weight weapons and putting more weight budget into defenses. It's a really strong setup!
This is quite good. Perhaps a little to melee centric for me, but still very good indeed.
I'm glad you liked it! Thanks for commenting :)
Wuergers are getting a charge time, cooling, and charge damage buff (according to the leaks)
Heya!
Those buffs actually came out already in 1.4! The leaked pdf contained changes already out and changes coming soon (I hope hehe)!
@@TylerDoesGaming i thought that 1.04 was a minor patch, and the last big balance was in 1.02, could be dead wring tho. Wuerger stats on the wiki says chrg atk is 1459, which is becomes 1820. The doc also says that theyre changes coming to 1.05 alongside the new parts
The doc is most certainly a draft, there's lots of errors. If you check in game, you'll see these values are already live!
For your first build I would really use the vertical plasma missiles instead. They hit 90% of the time and really helps with that extra little stagger. For the second build I would drop the laser orbits as they are pretty bad, the laser turret, laser drones or even a huxley are far better choices. The laser turret would be my choice since they buffed it and it's really strong for a fire and forget weapon. As for boosters, for these builds maybe a booster that has low energy consumption on assault boosts might be a better choice to chase enemies. Imma steal your build though 😁
Hey thanks for the input! Yes vertical plasmas are a great choice in general, their hit rate is excellent. However for that build it would sacrifice some of the already tight supply efficiency. Its always a tradeoff :)
There are definitely some good alternatives to the laser orbit on the second build for sure. Huxley shorter range might not be the best, but the newly buffer Aurora might be a great choice now. Not only does it scale with generators for damage, but it also scales its reload time off the generators too. The buff was really quite substantial, I've been toying with them today. They make a good poke tool and also a great punish tool with their newly buffed direct hit adjustment.
Regarding boosters, yes for sure, it totally depends what your goal is. For pvp in particular the buerzal booster is probably a good choice with the latest patch.
Thanks again for the input!
I've been running something similar lately. Mine centers more around speed, with my only energy weapons being the pokey shotguns (as I call them) and my back weapons being dual 4 shot missile launchers for smaller enemies and to reserve ammo (and overall energy) on the Wuergers. I've been able to handle very difficult missions with an AC that has less than 9000 AP to my surprise.
I call it "Hedgehog"
Sounds like a lot of fun! For back weapons have you tried the newly buffed Aurora? The energy spec stat on generators not only buffs the damage, but also reduced its reload time. The buff was very substantial!
I've been working on a very similar build, expect I use the Laser Slicer instead of the Dagger. I'll be honest, stats wise, I like your build. I just couldn't bring myself to give up the lunge speed I get from the Kikaku boosters. I would suggest trying the Aurora on the right shoulder and Sampu on the left. Since the Aurora damage scales with your EN Firearm Spec and the Laser Orbit does not.
This build relies a lot less on melee canceling (but he DEFINITELY could benefit from the technique) so he really doesn't need the high melee boosts of the Gridwalkers or Kikaku. I 100% agree on the Aurora swap though, either that or a Huxley if he really wants an Orbit for constant pressure.
pogrich environment
I’m a try this build
Excellent! Let me know your thoughts once you've given it a shot!
21:09 whatever they did your in danger
Oh you mean the AC I was just fighting it’s already been destroyed
1.04.1 buffed wuergers and plasma missiles
Yep! Wuergers are crazy good now!
I ran a reverse joint AC using dagger, Zim, laser drones and a shield, to pressure with kicks and shotgun shots while covered on the shield to pressure while using the dagger dash to chase and stagger punish, while the drones help keep and build stagger/add into the stagger punish. What you think of a combo like that? im implementing that combos you showed and with the RJ kick it do deliver a punch so thanks for it.
Sounds solid!
Keep in mind your shield will drop when quick boosting or assault boosting.
Kicks are great though. Very important to learn and weave into your attacks!
I just started playing with the laser dagger but you really need yhe right boosters to use it. The difference between some is so huge it makes it suck
Having the melee focused booster is the best, but sometimes you want to invest in QB related stats.
Sadly even medium weight builds get dumpstered by vientos on the acs strain front
I loved the Wuerger in my 2nd pve campaign! And now they even buffed it in the latest pathc??
I dont believe the wuerger was buffed directly no. However, the extensive balancing patches have brought the overperforming weapons down a little bit to be more in line with the wuerger. :)
@@TylerDoesGaming I am perplexed at the idea that having
"*LASER SHOTGUN “WUERGER/66E: increased Chg. Attack Power / Cooling, decreased Charge Time. Now takes less time for cooling to start*"
is not a direct buff in patch 1.04.1, I must admit :)
@Draconis_Eltanin oh man! A new patch just dropped! And they buffed 3/4 of the weapons this build uses! Haha amazing!
My apologies for the confusion, I had no idea a new patch dropped just now! This is a really fun surprise!
Sooo smart...
Armored Core 6 boss rush mode when?
Yes please!! :D
Arquebus pile bunker
If only that generator wasnt half way through newgame😔
I am glad you enjoyed the video!
You can definitely make the build work earlier by using the 20c 128 energy firearm generator.
You will need to drop some weight elsewhere though to compensate. I suggest legs and/core swap to make the weight fit. Good luck!
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