The "I'll f*cking die alone" line hits different when you realize that most owls mate for life, living literally alone the rest of their lives if something happens to their partner
@@thesmilingknight4982 I am still not over full moon and apology tour wasn't like sad or depressed as full moon like if I watch like a reaction video to it my anxiety and depression comes back to hit me in the face
I usually can't stand the misunderstanding/miscommunication trope because it can always be solved with a conversation, but...what Helluva Boss showed is single-handedly the most realistic, true-to-life, and genuinely damaging-to-a-relationship misunderstanding I've seen in a very long time. Both Stolas and Blitz just don't know each other. Their communication languages are so different at a base level that they only just started to get on the same page in the last couple of seconds of talking (before Stolas cut Blitz off by teleporting him outside). Blitz sees Stolas as this powerful, god-like royal being who treats him like a pet or a toy (as shown in Blitz's drug trip from "Truth Seekers"), and Stolas sees Blitz as a wounded lone wolf or lone moon drifting in space when not tethered to the Earth (Stolas) as seen in "Look My Way". Blitz and Stolas were tailoring their communications based on their flawed perceptions of the other person. *Stolas was gentle and very clear and vulnerable because he thought he was in a BL slice of life drama, and Blitz shouted and yelled at the godlike royal who dared to see him as a toy because Blitz thought he was in a shonen with an overall theme of classism.* I can't imagine how hurt Stolas feels thinking back to all of the times he was so vulnerable with Blitz only to realize that Blitz saw it all as a king commanding a servant to service him. I also can't imagine how blindsided Blitz feels upon realizing that Stolas genuinely loves him and having the rug ripped out beneath him because Blitz didn't react in the correct way or because Blitz just acted according to how he understood their reality. *Stolas had no idea he was cast as the depraved villain in Blitz's head, and Blitz had no idea he was cast as the dreamy bad boy love interest in Stolas's head.* I'm struck with the narrative juxtaposition all over again. I can't help but love it.
Love this!! Its so accurate, it feels like alot of people dont see both sides of it and either entirely blame Blitzø or entirely blame Stolas. Good to see someone seeing the more complex dynamic thats portrayed.
Danny about Blitz: "He's gotta get out of his own head. He needs to listen when people talk to him." Vivzie about Stolas: "He's too wrapped up in his fee-fees to see reality." Hey, a match made in Hell, afterall!
Fr, my friends and I are solidly in the Blitzø Did Nothing Wrong camp. This shit was sprung on him out of nowhere, and Stolas absolutely jumpscared him with the “do you have my book?” rather than just gifting him the crystal first. I really think if Stolas had given Blitzø a couple minutes, this would’ve gone way better, but instead he instantly shut Blitzø down the moment he got an answer he didn’t want. I love the tall bird man but that shit was so out-of-touch and self-pitying
“Spring???? SPRING?!?! He’s been trying to build a connection with you for so long it’s practically WINTER” -Danny Motta Peeps I was just quoting the Pun he made, not the actual context behind what he said, I think the characters are equally at fault for the relationship failing
Unfortunately he was trying to build connections by paying his boytoy to spend time with him, calling him belittling names without listening to protests, and telling him that he doesn't need to visit without really explaining why despite sending novel length texts to the dyslexic guy.
@@helenanilsson5666 but blitzo NEVER protested. He mosty grumbles at most. Blitzo NEVER communicated why he did't like the way stolas acte around him, why SHOULD stolas think the pet names are nothign more than playful flirtation when blitzo would never say otherwise?
@@sarafontanini7051 "JUST SAY MY NAME RIGHT" - Blitz, S1E5 Anyway, Blitz never protested the arrangement itself because he was fine with fucking Stolas as a way to pay rent for the book. That's the arrangement Stolas proposed in episode 1 and which Blitz agreed to. That's fine. Fucking Stolas is just a job that Blitz has to put up with and Blitz has made the calculation that it's a fair transaction with clear boundaries. Heck, he might even enjoy it, but no one in SW should entertain thoughts of romancing a John, 999 times out of 1000, that kind of thinking will just get you hurt. The problems come when Stolas feels dissatisfied with just being a sugar daddy and tries to uproot the arrangement without proper communication. It's good that they broke it off though, and hopefully they can both work on themselves now.
Danny whenever reacting to ep. 1: "I hate this shaggy carpet with a beak" Idk if I'm more disturbed at the I the fact that he's an owl, or he's talking to a red lizard (basically his mood towards Stolas) Present Danny: "98% of the characters could die and if Stolas was happy then I'd be fine with it" "my favorite little bird boy" "I just want him to be happy" Me: "Who said change was bad exactly?"
If I see anyone blaming only Stolas or only blitz I’m gonna scream. They both fucked up, they both have unresolved trauma that they triggered in eachother
i do agree while i feel like if it were on scales blitz would be a bit heavier, but for the most part they both did have there own hand in how that relationship is now.
It is definitely harder to see how stolas messed it up as it looks like his is trying very hard on the surface, and blitz is just about the most socially inept character in media. But I find Stolas issues in how he handled things in this episode to be perpetuations of his classicism and hypocrisy we see earlier in the series even though he thinks he is doing better to not be either of those things. Especially since he blindsides blitz with everything with no real warning and doesn’t let blitz process anything before storming off thinking that blitz definitely gave him an immediate straight answer.
@@joshturner6074 exacly, Stolas had this grand romantic image in his mind, and you can see when it starts failing he starts panicking and rushing through the plan, which causes Blitz to have emotional whiplash from thinking he's losing his entire business to not i guess? And then Stolas gets mad he might think its all a joke at his expense
@@kunilsen2519 @loganyou7512 I think the scales might be more towards Blitz in general, but Stolas is definitely the MVP of screwing up in this episode. No warning, no conversation, just a speech that he probably rehearsed days in advance and a checklist of things to do that didn't include letting Blitz know that he wouldn't need the book before taking it from him. You can really tell Stolas never had an actual relationship before and has an idealized vision of how romance works.
Part of the problem is that stolas doesn't recognize how much power he has over blitz. But blitz 100% is aware of that power imbalance. Stolas *starting* by taking away the book triggered fight or flight, ya know?
How it started: "Weird furry owl man...?" How it's going: " *MY FAVORITE LITTLE BIRD BOI* " (Edit: WHAT IN THE UNHOLY HELL?! HOW DID THIS GET SO MANY LIKES...)
@@appa9486 He's just fanboying a little too hard over Stolas, and forgetting that unlike the audience Blitz doesn't spend any time in birdy-boy's brain. We as an audience have spent so much time watching scenes that exist exclusively to establish Stolas' feelings and his motivation, and Blitz hasn't really been privy to those moments.
@@qdaddy9935 that is fine but he thinks that blitzo just hurts stolas on purpose with full bad intentions which is not true and then he also think stolas was making it incredibly obvious to blitzo which also isnt true, blitzo has basically only seen season1 stolas, like him saying stolas won is silly bc he obviously did not he thought he was rejected he looks miserable in the trailer
Its honestly so heartbreaking to me that Blitz cant fathom someone actually loving him and thinks its a rp. Like you see it on his face when he realized and than defaulted to anger as a defense
The most important take-away from the end of this episode is that neither Blitz or Stolas is fully at fault for how things happened. Blitz's first confused reaction was aggression, which is not great, but Stolas responded by shutting down and sending him away before he could fully process the conversation. And the thing with Blitz isn't just "forgive him, he has trauma", it's that his trauma has manifested as an insane amount of self hatred that makes him unable to believe that anyone could love him. Stolas's feelings might be clear to the audience, but it's always gone right over Blitz's head. He's mean to Stolas because their relationship has been a power imbalance, with his livelihood basically held over his head, and he genuinely believes Stolas only sees him as a sex toy, until this episode that is. And we see the second that registers for him, he actually tries to apologize, but Stolas doesn't give him the chance. Which, yeah, it's within Stolas's rights to not stand there and take verbal abuse. So ultimately, they just both need to get on the same page and actually try to understand each other.
Also, to add onto your perfect take: Stolas doesn't realize ab the classism that is happening. He views Bitzø as his equal, but Bitzø thinks that Stolas is ashamed of him due to this class difference. (You can see this in his reaction when Stolas covers his face at Ozzies) We can also assume that Bitzø has experienced classism before, considering that fact that they are at the literal bottom of the pyramid (technically he is above hell hounds, but that's ab it) Bitzø also believes, and is technically trapped in their agreement of the exchange of s3x for the ability to work and yk the ability to eat. This is very apparent in his truth gas trip. Another thing that was revealed in the gas trip is that he craves affection, yet can't fathom anyone acc liking him. This is where it is most apparent that Bitzø thinks that Stolas views him as only a s3x toy. Also, Bitzø was bought by Piamon, Stolas' dad, so the classism goes HARD there. Going back to the exchange, Stolas made the agreement ab the exchange when Bitzø was being shot at and therfore Bitzø didn't have the time, energy, or environment to process the agreement. Going back to the gas trip, i think the revalation that Bitzø craves affection but does fathom the prospect that anyone could acc like him, his is where he lashes out on Stolas. But when he realizes that Stolas acc likes him, he tries to go and apologize, but he got portal yeeted out of the room. (Like you said though, good on stolas for not taking the verbal abuse from Bitzø) So yeah, messy all around.
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm legitimately sooooooo glad to see that there's someone who genuinely understands the dynamic between these 2, because it's so frustrating to me to see Danny genuinely completely miss Blitzø's side of the story and completely hate him because he thinks it's a completely one sided thing
Especially when it’s just stating what he is- Ozzie even called him “Birdy babe” in ep 2.6. “My little imp” implies ownership and condescension. Furthermore, I think referring to Stolas as “the bird” in front of other people is part of Blitzø building up a wall (as Stolas references in “Look My Way”) to keep himself safe. They’re not friends, he won’t say they’re lovers, even Stolas’s name may have loaded feelings for Blitzø, so it’s just easier to flippantly say “the bird.”
The thing is, Stolas shows intimacy when it comes to his pet names. You see this in couples who love each other, coming up with cute names for each other. Stolas was referred to as "the bird", not "my bird" showing less of a connection. Blitz only thought of this as transactional. He knew Stolas had feelings because he acknowledged it. "Are we okay" "why does it have to be so complicated" it's because he knew Stolas might have feelings for him, that Stolas wasn't playing with him. Blitz was listening to everyone but he couldn't be dismissive anymore. He played it off as a joke instead of talking it out. Stolas had been trying to talk to him about their relationship for a while. Now it has come to a head.
@@TheKillerman3333 Personally, I don't think Blitz ever believed Stolas had feelings for him. Between his own self-loathing and what happened at Ozzie's, Blitz's mind was pretty firmly set that Stolas wasn't in love with him. But, we know from the picture he took on his phone and his quiet reaction to Stolas getting hurt that he did have budding feelings for Stolas. Him asking if they're ok is probably more to do with the fact that the last time they interacted in any form but text was when Stolas was kidnapped, tortured and almost died.
@@TheKillerman3333 well the other thing is, some petnames can be degrading someone if they dont like it. Blitz might have just put up with it because it meant he could do the transaction to keep the book but in secret hated it, which lines up with his reaction here and how he rarely(if never) smiles at ever being called that.
One of the things I like most about this episode is that it showcases one of Stolas' genuine flaws in a way that is played for laughs or resolved within the episode. Stolas doesn't listen well. He is often insightful and is inarguably mindful of the people he cares about, but we have seen him come to his own conclusions and move forward with them while actively ignoring what those people are saying. He does this with Octavia in both of her episodes, and does so with Blitzo repeatedly. He sees Blitzo's outburst as a rejection while ignoring that Blitzo is literally following him and shouting that he wants the confrontation and he then gives into his interpretation of the response and the pain that brings him by teleporting Blitzo away. It is great to see such a nuanced flaw displayed so well
Also. Blitz has ABSOLUTELY NO CONFLICT RESOLUTION SKILLS outside of violence. That's why he lashes out and wants to physically fight Stolas. He doesn't know how to handle the emotions so he turns to anger
@fawnallen5261 I doubt he wanted a physical fight, he's seen how powerful Stolas is, he just wants to argue aka his version of talking it out. They both messed up here.
@@darlingfawn07And that triggers Stolas because he's just getting out of an abusive relationship where Stella followed after him yelling degrading things at him.
@@amandap7599 i mean maybe? But theres been MULTIPLE times over where Stolas has just been indifferent/unaffected by stellas screaming and shit, if he isnt just yelling back at her.
@@amandap7599 Stolas usually just matches Stella snark for snark, only ever not doing so when she hired Striker to kill him. Hell, he is even able to tune out her screaming about wanting him dead while at the same table with her as she hires said assassin
Its actually refreshing to see most of these comments talking about how nuanced Stolas and Blitzø’s relationship is. I keep seeing one-sided takes on the topic and it gets tiring.
Blitzos first reaction was a heartbreaking "I can do better". One point I think a lot of people miss is that Blitzo literally met Srolas because his dad sold him as a kid. He has abandonement issues and is trying to keep Stolas by doing the things he knows works. They both have issues.
@@The_R3AL_Akutagawa he cut out pretty much every moment of Blitz having a point or being hurt by Stolas. Like, he even cut out the whole start when Blitz is crying on his knees begging for Stolas not to kill his business
I love that I think the exact opposite. Stolas' needed this more than Blitz. Cuz Stolas never really understood how much he's hurt Blitz on treating him like a toy. Stolas for a majority of their relationship made everything about sex and this is actually a reaping of what he's planted. And you don't just drop something like that out of nowhere. And it's out of nowhere for Blitz, because he can't comprehend the idea that someone might care, very less someone of higher status that constantly belittled him (impish little plaything)
Yeah add to that the fact that Blitz spent the whole episode trying to get ready for the full moon and I think he looked pretty excited when he first got there so if Stolas maybe warned Blitz before hand like "hey we're gonna do something different tonight only bring the book" or didn't start the conversation by asking for the book it could've gone better
I'd argue they both needed this. You're right on all counts with Stolas, but the way I'm seeing this from Blitz's perspective is that the relationship was changing in a big way, and his immediate reaction was to lash out and try to make Stolas hate him, the way we know he acted in earlier relationships. He failed to manage it, hurt Stolas in the process, and realized too late what he was doing. Now he just needs to own it to grow as a character, and maybe have a chance of working this out
@@EditDeath I totally agree. It's just that there's a need to defend Stolas in almost everyone, and I do think his softer exterior and eloquence makes him more likeable, but most people don't recognize his guilt on the matter
@@randomperson9249I fully agree, I think starting the conversation with "give me the book", was a TERRIBLE way to go abt it. Blitz is now already stressed after legit begging for his job, and it definitely triggered his fight or flight. If he maybe just said "hey, I need my book back, but don't worry I'll give you something else", that would've helped WAY better than just "hand me the book"😭
“Spring??? SPRING?!?!?! He’s been trying to build a connection with you for so long it’s practically WINTER!” - thank you for putting my feelings for Blitzø’s outburst into words, my man 🙇♀️
My heart shattered when he didn’t put any reaction to Stolas’s line “Am I doing something I can’t take back? Would he stay here if he was free? And if he’s only here as a prisoner, what kind of monster does that make me?” Or something
Because that would detract from Blitz being the only bad part of this situationship… when it is clear they both had bad ways of dealing with the deal between them.
@@FrancescaAkira89 also, when it came to the part when blitzo was laying out his trauma so clearly and bluntly ("you royal fucks...") he LITERALLY JUST STRAIGHT UP FUCKING IGNORED IT IN ITS ENTIRETY. I don't even know what to say to that..
@@EmiyaHikari That's what got me was how Blitzo said that. As if he(or someone he knows, like his mom?) has been screwed over before because of royal "love"
How about we add the fact that in the Lulu land episode, Stolas literally put his cigarette out on Blitzø's horn? He has constantly shown him (and all imps) lack of basic decency.
I love blitzø because he's clearly traumatized and separating himself from others, preventing himself from getting close to others. Which works directly AGAINST Stolas's trauma and his anxiety. It's such a good doomed romance story, and I really hope it ends with a happy ending regardless.
I think it will, we’ve been shown that Blitzø does have feelings for Stolas, he just pushes it all down and squashes any hope for it because he’s convinced that Stolas just sees him as a toy. Rightfully so, but I also think that Blitzø has another source of trauma we haven’t seen yet. He’s made multiple comments about how “you royals think you can ALWAYS do this” and “all royals are the same” heavily implying that he has experience with another. I think he worked for some Royal when he was younger and fell for him, but got his feelings played with and strung along until he was dropped without warning. Theres something else going on inside Blitzøs head that makes him react like this. Because is he really didn’t care about Stolas at all, he probs would have been absolutely fine with the crystal and wouldn’t have gone through all that effort into trying to please him.
yes! This shows in his relationship with Loona, too! I don’t think Blitzø would feel nearly as comfortable mooning and being sweet to Loona if she didn’t growl and groan about it - at least in the beginning. Since he’s been her adoptive dad for years, she could probably lighten up a bit and let him in some. I do think part of how she acts is her being young + moody - but part of it is to make Blitzø comfortable being gooey and sweet to her. She understands him, as shown in the end of the Beelzebub ep during the scene she brings him home and tucks him in.
Blitzo has intense levels of self loathing causing him to think stolas truly doesn't love him because he thinks no one could love him. not to mention they are both at fault for how they started the relationship not just Blitzo. They all need therapy. NEITHER OF THEM IS PERFECT
Me and you both. I keep coming to comments for reassurance that there are people reminding him that Blitzø, while an ass, isn't an ass without due cause considering his understanding and position in the circumstances. I adore Stolas, he's a sweetheart and sincere and earnest, but he's also a privileged and sheltered man who doesn't truly understand the power balance that's been struck with their transactional relationship.
11:52 it's been established that imps having businesses is extremely, unimaginably rare. As a tangent, Beelzebub is queen of gluttony, and it seems like Hellhounds are her main peeps - hellhounds also resemble what she looks like. Imps are native to Wrath, so Satan probably looks similar to imps, sloth demons are goats and Belphegor is the most goat-y demon, Asmodeus' people seem to be the Ars Goetia, who are bird-y like him, Envy demons are sharks or shark-y with Leviathan being a giant sea monster. Now, who works in shops, selling things to people? Spiders. Who's left unmentioned and is the king of greed? Mammon. So the vendors are all spiders because they are all Mammon's demons doing Greed-y work. You'll notice they're not particularly good at engaging with lusty shit - a lust-y demon like a succubus or incubus would probably figure out what kind of candle Blitz wants, what kind of harness he might need, etc - the spiders instead just offer up everything that might fit the bill of what Blitz is asking.
First of all, great break down. Very enjoyable read. But I do want to ask, weren't the sucubi of the lust ring? I was kinda under the assumption the ars goatia were those who abandoned heaven with lucifer (as we see many bird like similarities in the angels in hazbin hotel also it seems like a good reason for the existence of royalty beyond the king and queen of hell) Though that last part is just something I've seen other fans speculate on
Even though Stolas had good intentions and Blitz is an idiot, I feel like Danny’s forgetting that Stolas kind of set himself up for failure from the beginning. He acknowledges the power dynamic in their relationship (Blitzo’s livelihood depends on the book) but he still makes the same mistakes, controlling the conversation and putting Blitzo in full panic mode while sending mixed messages. And though he views him as his equal, he habitually demeans Blitzo without realising it, like imagine calling someone “my little (insert species) here”, “my impish little plaything” . Yikes. Blitzo is also at fault definitely, I just see a lot of defense for Stolas and blaming of Blitzo.
What’s interesting about Blitzo and Stolas’s situation in this episode is how absolutely divided fans are about who’s more in the wrong, and I’m honestly enjoying it. Blitzo and Stolas are both equals in how they’ve ruined their relationship, but for different reasons. They’re not only failing to communicate, they’re failing to communicate in a way that’s courteous to the other’s form of communication. Stolas dives too deep too fast into feelings, and Blitzo goes out of his way to avoid being vulnerable at all. They both need to relax and listen.
10000% the situation was shit from both sides. Like Stolas is my favorite character but I know for a fact that he didn’t handle this by taking into consideration what Blitzø would think. Like if he took a moment to explain after blitzø thought he was joking to be like no I’m serious and I want to talk about it. But he just shut down while Blitzø was still in panic mode. It’s like they both were at different stages of this discussion; Stolas having been thinking of this nonstop for months and Blitzø just now finding out that maybe the situation and feelings were genuinely real. Blitzø was at the beginning of the discussion while Stolas was already at the final thoughts.
Yeah i agree. Stolas is making such clear rich kid mistakes. He did not set clear boundaries nor communicate that he wanted anything but sex when he started, then has the audacity to expect more. He has set up everything in the relationship from the full moon thing to the sexually charged relationship. Blitz isnt perfect but he was under the impression that this was transactional, and there was no feelings. Stolas has a clear communication problem. In my opinion, this is a clear clash of no experience vs bad experience
Agreed. Everyone sucks in the situation, but Stolas started the conversation by shooting himself in the foot. Stolas hurt his own feelings by not actually considering Blitzø's feelings.
Danny's face of pure joy at Stolas' "but I want you to" after he just said "but you want him to" and his "ah bitch I knew it" was such a highlight lmao. Love Danny being Stolas #1 defender. Never change Danny
I loved this episode for not falling into the miscommunication trope. Stolas gets to say exactly what he means to say as clearly as he wants to say it and I love that. Also, I'm so excited that you're reacting to the Owl House! I can't wait to see what you think!
I think the best way to truly understand how both of them are equally at fault in the relationship, is to watch Sarcastic Chorus' videos on the ship. His most recent one goes into why Stolas was more at fault here than Blitz, while still stating what Blitz did wrong. He always shows both sides, which is why I think those vids are the best at highlighting this relationship and its problems.
Yes this fr ^ I don't agree with absolutely everything SC says, but I think he really goes into stuff that typical viewers don't even realize or pick up on. And it makes you realize that Stolas isn't as perfect here as some people think he was. they are both just messed up people on a journey and we're going to see the fallout of this episode in apology tour this month, where I hope it's made really clear how at fault they both were.
Oh, yeah, SC really does a great job highlighting the flaw of Stolas's communication and very, VERY tangible layers between their placements in their society.
Blitz's reaction actually wasn't really surprising to me. His entire life from his childhood at the circus to the business he's running to his deal with Stolas has always been about what he's providing. His entire worth is wrapped up in that and from his point of view the only relationships he has are based upon what he can do for everyone else. So when finally presented with one genuine moment where someone wants to be with him for him and not what he does for them, it makes sense that he'd read it as a bit and default back to what he has been providing. Hoping that with the next episode being called "Apology Tour" there will at least be some friendly reconciliation, even if its not romantic. Proud of the boy Stolas finally finding his self worth and clearly laying out what he wants. I too want to see more building between him and Olivia since you can see she's the only thing about his family that he cares about since she was the only part of any picture that was left uncovered during the Blitz/Stolas confrontation.
@@zoewood555season 3 is Book of Circus. I believe Danny skipped the second half of season 1 and all of season 2 because it's 100% not canon (to the manga), thats why the one airing right now is season 4
“Why are all the shopkeepers spiders?” Just a theory but it’s because Mammon, the Prince of Greed, is a spider. They are greed monsters so it makes sense they’re more likely to open a business.
@@feralbaby Why not? Imps originate from Wrath, but they've successfully established themselves all over the rings. There's business to be made in Lust, of course Greed demons will be interested in doing business. Sex sells. If there's ANY place outside of Greed where Greed demons would feel at home it would be in their own Lust sex shop.
I think what irritates me the most about the Blitz slander and saying "well, everyone has trauma, he's not special" is yeah, no duh. But we aren't all the same person and handle trauma the same, do we? We weren't raised with the same priorities, beliefs, expectations, roles in our family, etc. So while Blitz's actions and overall handling of stressful situations don't make sense to some people, there are plenty of people who relate to him and his trauma response. The tragedy of their relationship isn't that they don't care about each other. We clearly see that they do. It's that they were raised with completely different understandings of their worth and place in the world and have entirely different approaches to communicating. Blitz has always had to feel like he has to be louder, bigger, and more aggressive just to be heard because he's no one, he's just an ex-circus imp that was overshadowed and underappreciated. Stolas has been put on a pillar and told he has to be perfect nobility his whole life while being abused and screamed at. So of course he isn't going to react well to Blitz's loud and emotional outburst. Just like Blitz isn't going to see this prince of Hell (the person he was literally rented out to as a child) and take his confession as genuine. It's heartbreaking and such a nuanced situation
its ironic that danny misunderstands blitzø the same way stolas does. both think they're not worth the other, but blitzø has all reason to because of status, stolas is royalty while blitzø is the lowest of hells hirachy. blitzø has MASSIVE self-esteem issues and tries to fix their relationship the only way he can think of - going back how it was, all about s3x. we've seen to the end of the queen bee episode thats blitzø wants love, but when he finally realized that he had the chance and that chance is seemingly gone, too, its already to late and he snaps, understandably.
I'm kinda hoping the bias is part of the bit XP, but there are a ton of fans that see it the way Danny does, despite how misguided it is. Its Bias of what we see, versus what Blitzø never ever gets to see from Stolas
Something that should be pointed out is how fked up deal Stolas made was. Imagine you get out of being almost homeless because you score 1 in a thousand job, and then your boss tells you you gotta fk him to keep it. OFC thats not what Stolas wanted, not what he meant, but thats what he did.
True! Not to mention Stolas was still in complete control of the situation, even when he tried to give Blitzo a choice. He literally put him into this situation, and haven’t given him ANY time to think. He was hoping for either an immediate positive response or nothing.
@@iammemys2213 Stolas is just as wrong as Blitzø is in this situation. He does not listen to Blitz, he doesn’t give him any time to process what was happening, and immediately dismisses him after not getting the reaction he was initially hoping for. Stolas LITERALLY gave blitz all the reasons to believe they were just a transactional thing, belittling blitz on several occasions, sexualising him even when blitz was clearly uncomfortable with it (remember the first half of season 1) etc. The conflict between them is not that Stolas is good and caring, and blitz is heartless and terrible. They both don’t understand each other and do not communicate their feelings like.. at all!
It’s funny that people were complaining about the cherubs taking time away from stolas and blitz but it’s great to see Danny loving the comedy the cherubs bring in this episode
@@Misto_deVito6009 apparently some people just wanted the entire episode to be the stolas and blitz drama with no distractions. Like I get it but you do need comedy in the comedy show
@stevenhedge2850 of course people fùçķíŋĝ did. Why bother to have an actual show, right? Let's just have two characters hangout because we love them. Screw everything else because thats what the show is all about.
I think the reason why people get mad over the blitz slander is because when you talk about him it feels like you're ignoring how his trauma effects his behavior towards people like Stolas which he believes don't actually care about him. He's not mean to Stolas just for the sake of being mean, he really does care and we see that in small moments like when he is scared he'll die alone or when he calls out Fizz and Ozzie for mocking his relationship or most notably all of the effort he went through in this episode to try and make the night enjoyable for Stolas because that's what he was afraid was happening. His trauma has conditioned him to believe that no one really cares about him and no matter how much Stolas says so he's unable to bring himself to believe it which I think is why he gets so angry at the end. To him it was just another night of sex per their agreement so when Stolas suddenly made it very serious everything else Stolas has said throughout the season doesn't occur to Blitz because he's head is stuck in the moment and all he hears is how Stolas doesn't want him anymore. You didn't feature the moment in the video but when Blitz first tries to reason with Stolas he asks if he wasn't doing enough and that he could be better which to me is him trying to curve his behavior from very horny like he was prepared for to trying to get where Stolas is but at this point Stolas had already made up his mind that Blitz doesn't really care and actively walked away from him and when the conversation got to its most difficult point Stolas kind of took the easy way out and instead of actually arguing with Blitz when he gave him the chance he teleported him out of the mansion which I'm sure to Blitz was the biggest insult of all. Basically I think they both handled the situation horribly and the only way it would have gone any different would be if it was an entirely different situation all together.
The anti-Blitz bias in the fan community is crazy. More people need to realize the unequal power dynamics in Blitz and Stolas relationship. Blitz is just an imp, a class of demon that quite literally gets exploited and treated like expendable machinery by the Ars Goetia all the time. This heavily colors the way Blitz perceives Stolas and their relationship. Couple this with the fact that, in the beginning, Stolas did in fact treat their relationship as purely transactional and treated him as a mere playtoy (he called him his "impish plaything" for example) and Blitz believing Stolas is just using him in this unequal power dynamic makes sense. And also: We as an audience saw many vulnerable Stolas moments which Blitz did not see. We simply know more about Stolas than Blitz does in this regard. Blitz isn't right, but Stolas hasn't been a beacon of innocence here either.
Not that I think this will change your mind but Viv herself said both Blitz and Stolas made mistakes in the conversation and Sam Haft (song writer) has said that Blitz isn’t cruel, he’s self loathing and Stolas isn’t cruel, he’s sheltered. The fact that Blitz takes note of the imp butlers while Stolas doesn’t seem to understand why Blitz may feel like servant like them especially being bought for Stolas as a child, not to mention Stolas was more prepared to express his feeling since he thought that way for a while which Blitz wasnt clearly reading from Stolas making them both on different pages accidentally triggering each other. They did thier best but it’s not solely Blitz’s fault and, I don’t think Blitz knows Stolas got divorced. This whole thing started as affair. They both needed to get their say out there and I think things will slowly get better from here.
Stolas and Blitzø care so much for each other but they do it in different ways which contradict each other. Blitzø does in fact care because He Tried To Apologize at the end there before he got cut off. He just didn't believe anyone could genuinely love him so he just pushes it away.While Stolas shows his love through actions which Blitzø doesnt 'see' as love just a part of their deal or an added benefit to it. Also, I like how Blitzø just went through 4 out of 5 stages of grief in their talk.He denied it first, tried to bargain into stolas letting him keep the book,got angry at him and finally accepted the fact that maybe stolas was actually serious about caring about him. Cant wait to see the last one🥲
Dramatic Irony: When the audience knows something the characters do not. I feel like a lot of Stolas stans forget that Blitz isn't seeing everything we see about what's going in Stolas's mind and personal life.
Yeah, I've been noticing that when binging through reaction videos. Stolas gets trashed talked *almost* non-stop (with a breather to praise his singing in episode 2) right until we get to the "that's a mood Gabriella" in episode 7. Until that point everyone was in agreement that he was ultimately characterized as an extremely horny imp-sexual cheating bird. Then the moment we actually see things from his perspective everyone just collectively forgets what their perception of him started off as, and that Blitz still has that initial perspective.
@@Star-uq2ox Absolutely. Stolas doesn't seem to know that Blitz was bought the day they had a playdate. He doesn't seem to know about Blitz's long history of losing people and his relationships (romantic or otherwise) crashing and burning. But...he does know that Blitz is an imp. One of the lowest social classes of Hell. He knows that there is an inherent power imbalance and that if he's going to treat Blitz like an equal, he needs to be clear to Blitz that it's not a trap or mockery. Especially since his "high opinion" of Blitz doesn't appear to extend to the imp butler he used as a stress ball while on the phone with Stella earlier this season.
@@helenanilsson5666 Nah, stolas got trashed SO HARD after this ep even tho Blitz did as much damage if not more. Blitz fans try to understand trauma doesnt mean u get a pass for acting like this challenge failed once again lol Stolas tried. He genuinely tried after Ozzie's. For so many months. And its been EXPLICITLY said by Blitz and shown in various ways TO BLITZ and to the viewers. Is it Stolas's fault Blitz REFUSES to see it? And yet the fans punish Stolas so hard bc they had a sex deal, he called him a plaything ONCE and bc he is a royalty lol Lets completely forget Blitz manipulating and using him in Ozzie's. Manipulating him again and using sex in the Circus ep. Not making effort to do anything. Mocking, yelling at him and calling him names in this ep. And somehow this is all fine bc Blitz has trauma? Ridiculous. Stolas has made mistakes. Even iin this ep. But the way so many fans tried to completely absolve Blitz of everything he has done is insane. Viv herself acknowledges that both have faults. Stolas gave Blitz a chance here and Blitz sabotaged himself bc of his trauma (mocking his confession) and then took it out on Stolas. Doesnt mean Stolas has to take it lol I would have done worse than Stolas if someone did this shit to me ngl.
Danny please read these comments, their explaining both sides of the story. Stolas literally did spring the "feelings" thing, he didn't even tell Blitz why they were meeting that night, he treats other imps like crap, there's so much evidence that Stolas isn't the nicest guy.
Yes I do have to say that Stolas has a soft spot for blitz but we’ve clearly seen how poorly he treats other imps. It’s kinda like dating a waiter or waitress and then yelling at waitstaff anytime you go out. Just treating one person differently doesn’t speak to your full character, especially where this relationship is concerned since Stolas is in a position of power. Blitz had no clues or time to think of the dynamic as anything but transactional
Blitz has been on a redemption arc all of season 2. He's on a path towards realizing that he can eventually forgive himself and work on his self worth issues. I predict that he'll be able to convince Stolas that he's aware of his issues, and he's working on himself enough to accept Stolas' love.
I honestly love both. I am mad at both for this episode. They needed to talk to each other and not at each other. They said what they think without about the other. I love them both and the episodes right now are amazing
This episode is very clearly meant to parallel Ozzies in a lot of ways, and, like how Blitz was almost fully in the wrong during Ozzies, I think Stolas was in the wrong during this. He invites Blitz for their regular night and doesn’t tell him to expect anything different, refuses to explain anything when he is taking the book, and then turns his back on Blitz the instant he wasn’t immediately super greatful for the crystal and then kicks him out of his house.
Yeah, after screaming at him, calling him a bitch and essentially accusing him of just using blitzo as a toy. Theres a certain point when you’re on the phone eith a toxic partner where you just have to hang up the phone on them
@@josephwilliams1251 true but that's after ending a relationship without letting the other person properly answer. hate how the how Stolas taking the book screwed so much up
@@NonnoSandroBebop He also cut the part where Blitz was desperately begging Stolas to not end their deal because his entire life depends on Stolas' whims, which is a pretty crucial reminder of how utterly unequal this relationship was. 🤔
The damage was already done, it was too late to apologize and Stolas had every right to react the way he did, Blitz really hurt his feelings. People shouldn't put their feelings to the side to comfort the person who hurt them. Blitz can shove that apology up his arse in a bad painful way and deal with the consequences of his actions. Blitz is my favorite character but he messed up bad and people are being too optimistic about their relationship and think everything would go as planned and forgetting that both of these men are flawed and traumatized people.
Dude Stolas has all the power in their relationship, yeah Blitzø has the communication skills of a hammer but this mess isn’t one sided. Stolas Sent the terms of their interactions and Blitzø is trying to shield himself from heartbreak that he’s being experiencing not stop back to back since childhood
24:20 Danny just said that Luna doesn’t have trauma, but she lived in a dog shelter where she was about to age out and get put down. He has a ton of trauma and belongs in S tier with Moxie
It’s crazy, it’s like he hasn’t even watched the show, like he only remembers parts with Stolas and then he remembers them with rose tinted glasses for Stolas
Her trauma is kind of downplayed though, especially in comparison to other characters like Moxxie and Blitzo who had entire episodes dedicated to exploring said trauma.
I don't see this as a "taking back his power/self worth" thing for Stolas. His words and actions show that he isn't looking to end the relationship or stop Blitzø from treating him badly, but instead wants to shift the dynamic to one that's based on their genuine feelings for each other instead of something toxic and transactional. And to Stolas, it's as simple as that; "be here because it's what we both want." But in the world that Blitzø lives in, it's completely unheard of and doesn't even register as a possibility (hence Luna's immediate assumption that Stolas must have gotten bored with Blitzø and is about to give him the brush off). You see the divide in their thinking due to their social classes there as well. Stolas is royalty, so whatever he wanted was essentially at his fingertips (for the most part). That explains why the first time he asks for something from the heart and isn't met with an emphatic "yes", he immediately interprets it as a "no" and walks away heartbroken. Meanwhile for Blitzø, the agreement with Stolas was his only way to live on his own terms and have a life that's different from other imps. That's why when Stolas is talking about ending it, Blitzø immediately begs him not to. Then when he hears what Stolas proposes, he goes right back into the mindset that anyone else in hell would have, which is that it must be some sort of joke or kinky game because why would a royal ever actually care for an imp? And even though Stolas didn't give Blitzø the time to even question the status quo and consider another perspective (that Stolas' actions could be out of genuine affection instead of boredom or horniness), the fact that Blitzø tried to apologize when he saw Stolas crying gives me hope that he may be willing to tear down his walls a bit and consider that both his and Stolas' feelings are real.
" You see the divide in their thinking due to their social classes there as well. Stolas is royalty, so whatever he wanted was essentially at his fingertips (for the most part). That explains why the first time he asks for something from the heart and isn't met with an emphatic "yes", he immediately interprets it as a "no" and walks away heartbroken." I think it's more complex than that, Stolas didn't have his Happy Pills and Blitz had been avoidand for MONTHS, he didn't have many reasons to hope in the first place. Stolas may be used to get what he wants when it's goods, but not when it's related to relationships. "And even though Stolas didn't give Blitzø the time to even question the status quo and consider another perspective" I'm a bit annoyed to see so many people claim Stolas didn't give Blitz time to think. Blitz was the one to jump on the roleplay answer, and afterward decided it was a good idea to start yelling and insulting Stolas rather than taking that time to think. I understand his reaction both time, but like the rest of the conversation, it's the fault of their trauma and they both not truly knowing each other.
@@neyaneazrune548 I understand what you mean about Stolas only getting what he wants as far as physical goods instead of relationships or emotional validation, because this poor guy was absolutely stuck in an abusive relationship with gilded bars. But I don't agree with you that Blitz had any time to think or react, because what was Stolas doing before Blitz started yelling? He was already walking away. He took Blitz's misunderstanding as a definite answer. If Blitz didn't yell, and just sat back and reflected on what just happened, they still would be broken up right now, because that's the conclusion Stolas came to before Blitz started yelling.
@@greyscaleanon7551 Again, maybe not, Blitz, if his trauma hadn't kicked in so fast, could have followed without yelling or chosen better words to explain. He mocked Stolas' feelings, then insulted him, of course Stolas wasn't gonna stay to listen to more ^^' But there was ways to salvage this, on both ends. Just... Their trauma talked and clashed. But it's unfair to put in on Stolas not "giving time" when Blitz really wasn't any better and didn't took time to answer in the first place either (his own fear of attachment kicking in).
@@neyaneazrune548 I can see why Stolas INTERPRETED Blitz's roleplay response as mockery, but remember that wasn't how Blitz intended it. As for why Stolas is being given grief for not giving Blitz time...that's because Stolas HAD time. He spent months planning and making up his mind about all this and never once did it occur to him that Blitz might not have an answer at the ready. Not to mention that the problem he decided to correct--the transactional nature of their situationship--was only scratching the surface of the power imbalance and he completely failed to explain to Blitz what he was planning to do until after Blitz was already in Panic Mode.
@@greyscaleanon7551 Yes and no, I'm not sure of Blitz's intentions because he was definitely self-sabotaging with his reaction to Stolas' confession, but I'm not really sure how much of it is conscious or not. Also, well, Blitz says himself in the duet he's avoiding Stolas' questions, so even if Stolas had wanted to discuss things beforehand, he couldn't, he really didn't have a choice but blurt out everything at once or Blitz would have fled before/not show up.
I actually think Stolas is the one who is primarily responsible for this going poorly. He didn't give Blitzo like even a second to think about what was happening, and at the end, despite him yelling, Blitzo is specifically telling Stolis to talk to him.
Well maybe because Blitzo was too focused on yelling at Stolas and antagonizing him like Stella rather than simply telling Stolas "I need some time to think"
Biggest thing imo, is how he beat around the bush so much. Especially since (if Look My Way is canon) he understands just how fucked Blitz's self esteem is. "I think I've fallen in love with you. It's fucking CREEPY of me to make you sleep with me to keep your business running. Here's a crystal so you don't HAVE to do that if you don't want to. With THAT particular power imbalance out of the way, can I ask you on a date?"
@@deathXbyXlight stolas handled it decently not perfect but still really good because he was saying that he wanted blitz as a person not blitz as a prisoner stuck in this loop where he needs the book to make a living and then blitz kind of took what he said as him saying that blitz didn't do good enough and then he was a little surprised and didn't really know how to respond and then stolas took that as him saying he only wanted the book but blitz wanted their contract to stay because he liked stolas and then stolas leaves and blitz was trying to say in a word that he wanted a second to process this to talk to him with him saying "how dare you spring this feeling shit on me" and then at the end you can tell that he felt sorry and we can hear that he was in the middle of saying sorry but then he got teleported out
Watching Danny SMILE almost the entire breakup scene was so relatable. I know most people were upset or even crying, but I was THRIVING, so it made me feel less alone. Like yeah, I am 100% Stolas biased, but they both needed this. You can't make an omelette without breaking some eggs. I hope this show explores the downside, ending a relationship (bad or good) but also the upside of it. And also the healing process to keep going.
18:20 this is super ironic considering Stolas is the one that’s shutting down Blitzo’s attempt at conversation. He’s confused and asks questions, then when he’s getting ignored he falls back to anger which is something he seems to do instinctively, but he airs out his grievances about their relationship. On the other hand, Stolas is unfortunately too fixated on the supposed rejection to really listen or realise this, which also shows how little he understands Blitzo’s feelings in this moment, Stolas causing him to flounder all over in the whole convo when the well established expectation of transactional sex is shattered and he feels like he’s being abandoned
alot of people have been forgetting that in season 1 stolas basically establish's the relationship is purely transactional (atleast infront of blitz) and blitz is convinced that pretty much convinced that any trend towards the romantic stuff is just part of that transactional nature
18:24 This is so ironic considering Stolas kind of...never gave Blitz a chance to properly take in what Stolas was saying. I mean, the whole ass day, he was preparing to do what they always did on full moons when suddenly Stolas asks for his book back. Also real ironic that when Blitz was finally responding to the situation Stolas put him in, Stolas didnt really give Blitz a chance to keep talking. He LITERALLY KICKED BLITZ OUT, which is understandable but geez... 😭😭😭😭 Sure it applies to Blitz, but this episode also highlights Stolas's flaw with not being able to listen to others, being too much in his head. I think neither side won but ig everyone is entitled to their own opinion 🤷
I feel like that was the confrontation they needed to have so that both Blitzo and Stolas can have a reality check. If they do end up getting their shit together at the end they can reapproach the relationship as equals, but only if they both figure out how to listen to other people
You seem to keep misunderstanding blitzo's feelings towards stolas. He really does care for stolas but how he treats him has been affected by how other high class demons have treated him and his own intense levels of self loathing causing him to think stolas truly doesn't love him because he thinks no one could love him.
Not even talking about Blitzø’s thoughts or feeling or even reacting to his deeply painful like “I can do better” is so disappointing. Like Stolas is my favorite baby boy to ever exist but it’s so clear that Danny is so focused on Stolas that he doesn’t even consider how or why Blitzø would react the way he did. Like Danny is literally BEING Stolas right now by completely ignoring how this would totally blindside someone who has been made to feel less than and like an object their whole life. Like of course he didn’t pick up on Stolas trying to get to know him better. He was constantly reminded how good of a lay he was and was never given the chance to even consider maybe he was more because Stolas blew through this confession without giving blitz even a second to realize he was being genuine. Both were at different stages of this conversation, Blitzø panicking at the beginning while Stolas was already at the conclusion. Edit: I feel like I have to point out that BOTH Blitzø AND Stolas fucked this up. I’m not taking a side.
Yup, the "I can do better" breezed past Danny. Like, at that point, Stolas has said that Blitz doesn't need to be with him anymore and here is a stone and Blitz doesn't even want it--this supposed freedom. He wants to continue to be with Stolas. He wants to prove he is worth something. That whole rest of the time he's trying to understand the motivation for Stolas giving him the crystal. It's not until Stolas says that he wants Blitz to stay that Blitz thinks it must be a roleplay. Like, these two have done roleplay, "I need a hero" bullshit in the past. Think LooLoo Land, where Stolas pretends to need Blitz to protect him just so he can flirt with him. Blitz has come over for what he thinks is a night of sex. No warning it was going to be something different.
I mean, not really surprising? Danny's been shouting at Blitz about this since Ozzie's, and the series hasn't exactly been helping with all the emphasis on Stolas and how HIS backstory justifies his perspective while "imps are an underclass" is still very much something that gets told and not shown. At a certain point you're just blaming Danny for having watched the show and focused his energy on the character that's getting development instead of the character that's been an out-of-focus clown for all of Season 2.
@@rebeccaliar9873 I mean it’s kind of incorrect to say season two has been all about Stolas and his backstory. That would completely disregard all the trauma and backstory of blitz and fizz in episode 6 as well as the flash back to Lunas adoption and his trauma response in episode 2. I’m not blaming Danny for watching the show but I am saying that there were important character development and backstory pieces for more than just Stolas in season two.
Especially that he said that after he already got the stone and his business is not at stake anymore. He just said that because he didn't want stolas to abandon him.
"If the show tricks me into liking Cletus, it will be the most impressive feed of writing since the Bible!" HA, he had a joke reference in a show set in a ring of hell
17:04 Blitzø doesn’t believe someone like Stolas can actually love him cus of his low self-esteem. And the fact that Stolas treated him only like a plaything earlier in the relationship did not help with this fact. Add to the fact that Stolas just took the grimoire with little to no explanation, which immediately stressed Blitzø out, and it gets worse. Blitzø said that he doesn’t like when things get complicated so he just “focus on the sexy stuff instead.” That’s why he thought it was a role play. And plus, Blitzø wasn’t expecting any of this. Stolas didn’t warn him ahead of time so he could prepare, stressed him out by taking the grimoire, and then dumped the info on him. It was a lot to comprehend for Blitzø. He was just sent through a ton of emotions and didn’t know how to handle it. So he lashed out. Yes Blitzø made mistakes but so did Stolas.
I'm at the "Pardon sir, did you call him a bird", and this is the second show react I'm watching from you. The first one being The Owl house.... And now it make me think.. Cause I also LOVE Stolas and Hooty.... Is there a pattern here? Just leaving that here, have a nice day.
Stolas is very sweet and miserable, but Blitz is right. Stolas didn't even give him a chance to speak. Stolas didn't go into this expecting to have a conversation with Blitz, he doesn't mention talking even once. And they so desperately need to talk. He went into it deciding that he was going to give Blitz a choice that would determine the fate of their relationship. Blitz goes into this thinking they'll just be getting back to 'normal'. And Stolas, despite the fact that he does care, isn't taking the steps to show it because he doesn't give Blitz a heads up at all, starts off by making him think he's losing everything, before assuming Blitz's answer after the rough blow of Blitz misinterpreting his confession. He walks away from him, shuts down his attempts to talk, and despite saying he thinks so highly of Blitz and how obvious that has been to us as the audience, Stolas has never actually made it clear to Blitz's dumbass that he thought of them as equals.
Exactly, Blitzø didnt think Stolas genuinely loves him, in his eyes no one would. While Stolas is dropping hints and giving him space and cares about him but blitzø doesn't see it .
this! its always a bummer when people put the whole blame on blitzo when stolas also carries some of the blame for how things have gone. we as the audience can see how much Stolas cares about blitzo but he never actually puts it to words. if you look at their text its easy to see that Stolas doesn't communicate their feelings very well and is super passive about what he actually wants and tells blitzo that its okay that they skip their meetup which blitzo takes at face value because he couldn't even imagine that Stoals could be meaning anything else. everything could be fixed if either party would actually just express what they actually want. while the way things have ended right now are super sad, it was necessary for things to break completely so that they can take REAL steps to fixing things and building a good relationship.
this episode is so sad because obviously we know they both care about each other, but they cant see it because they are expressing it very differently. I think a lot of people forget that Blitzo does care about Stolas. He got anxious about Stolas getting bored of him, and then spent his whole day looking for things he thought Stolas would like. Even if he is only focusing on the sex (because hes got emotional problems XD), he still cares. I feel that Stolas sprung that conversation on Blitzo a bit. They are both just not communicating well and its so sad but this argument/break up needed to happen.
I agree Blitz did in fact need to be knocked back into the reality that his actions of consequences and Stolas needed to stop saving himself for Blitz when he actively does not think of Stolas as an actual partner. Like Stolas fell in love the guy for years, and he wanted to start to have something, and Blitz wanted nothing to do with him just rob him, he only went out with him for the benefits at least that's what he convinced himself.
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A cloaca is a bird’s vagina
Check out Sarcastic Chores review oh this episode. He makes some valid points
The "I'll f*cking die alone" line hits different when you realize that most owls mate for life, living literally alone the rest of their lives if something happens to their partner
Why does everyone mention this it's not helping with my depression this episode brought me
@@666winter.wonderland if it makes you feel any better we all got that very same depression
@@thesmilingknight4982 I am still not over full moon and apology tour wasn't like sad or depressed as full moon like if I watch like a reaction video to it my anxiety and depression comes back to hit me in the face
idk why my initial thought was “yeah, clowns too”
@@666winter.wonderland Full Moon and Apology Tour make me so sad
"Blitzo's nonchalance" Danny he's freaking the FUCK out and lying to himself about it
THANK YOU! i thought i was the only one that bothered that
I usually can't stand the misunderstanding/miscommunication trope because it can always be solved with a conversation, but...what Helluva Boss showed is single-handedly the most realistic, true-to-life, and genuinely damaging-to-a-relationship misunderstanding I've seen in a very long time. Both Stolas and Blitz just don't know each other. Their communication languages are so different at a base level that they only just started to get on the same page in the last couple of seconds of talking (before Stolas cut Blitz off by teleporting him outside).
Blitz sees Stolas as this powerful, god-like royal being who treats him like a pet or a toy (as shown in Blitz's drug trip from "Truth Seekers"), and Stolas sees Blitz as a wounded lone wolf or lone moon drifting in space when not tethered to the Earth (Stolas) as seen in "Look My Way". Blitz and Stolas were tailoring their communications based on their flawed perceptions of the other person. *Stolas was gentle and very clear and vulnerable because he thought he was in a BL slice of life drama, and Blitz shouted and yelled at the godlike royal who dared to see him as a toy because Blitz thought he was in a shonen with an overall theme of classism.*
I can't imagine how hurt Stolas feels thinking back to all of the times he was so vulnerable with Blitz only to realize that Blitz saw it all as a king commanding a servant to service him. I also can't imagine how blindsided Blitz feels upon realizing that Stolas genuinely loves him and having the rug ripped out beneath him because Blitz didn't react in the correct way or because Blitz just acted according to how he understood their reality. *Stolas had no idea he was cast as the depraved villain in Blitz's head, and Blitz had no idea he was cast as the dreamy bad boy love interest in Stolas's head.* I'm struck with the narrative juxtaposition all over again. I can't help but love it.
Woah that's a whole 3 paragraph comment :0
Omg yes!
this is the best thing. seeing it in words is great
Love this!! Its so accurate, it feels like alot of people dont see both sides of it and either entirely blame Blitzø or entirely blame Stolas. Good to see someone seeing the more complex dynamic thats portrayed.
What does BL slice of life mean?
What you didn’t hear was that, in the opening song, Blitz was forcing the nonchalance, as though he was desperate to convince himself.
omg yes this! Saying "we're fine!" to yourself in the mirror through gritted teeth is anything but nonchalant lmao
Yep! Especially since they're both using the contract to keep the other at arm's length and Stolas took away the safety net.
While y’all are fighting about who’s more in the wrong, i’m just laughing about Danny’s reaction to the word cloaca.
same 😂😂😂
i had to google what it meant lol
@@michellesd4773 hooray, t.v. shows teaching/getting you to learn new words!
I died at the fucked up percy jackson comment😂
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Fun fact: Blitzo isn’t being casual, he’s processing his anxiety through a classic case of denial and avoidance during that first song😢
LITERALLY
EXACTLY
A classic case of inferiority complex disguised under a fabricated big ego and disregard for others and the situation as a whole.
Exactly, Blitz is a case of mixed avoidant attachment and anxious attachment
I can relate
Danny about Blitz: "He's gotta get out of his own head. He needs to listen when people talk to him."
Vivzie about Stolas: "He's too wrapped up in his fee-fees to see reality."
Hey, a match made in Hell, afterall!
Danny needs to see this shit
Fr, my friends and I are solidly in the Blitzø Did Nothing Wrong camp. This shit was sprung on him out of nowhere, and Stolas absolutely jumpscared him with the “do you have my book?” rather than just gifting him the crystal first. I really think if Stolas had given Blitzø a couple minutes, this would’ve gone way better, but instead he instantly shut Blitzø down the moment he got an answer he didn’t want. I love the tall bird man but that shit was so out-of-touch and self-pitying
@@gametheus1306 I mean, Sarcastic Chorus even has a 50 minute video about that.
Tbh they both are lol
Danny: Ranting about how he can finally catch up
Vivziepop: Puts out new episode 8 days later
Same day I’m pretty sure lol or maybe just the day after
To be fair, if she ended on that cliffhanger and waited a month or so for the next, the Stoliz fans would probably eat her alive
“Spring???? SPRING?!?! He’s been trying to build a connection with you for so long it’s practically WINTER”
-Danny Motta
Peeps I was just quoting the Pun he made, not the actual context behind what he said, I think the characters are equally at fault for the relationship failing
Unfortunately he was trying to build connections by paying his boytoy to spend time with him, calling him belittling names without listening to protests, and telling him that he doesn't need to visit without really explaining why despite sending novel length texts to the dyslexic guy.
I didn't understand why he said winter until you said this and now that's a GENIUS line
@@helenanilsson5666 but blitzo NEVER protested. He mosty grumbles at most. Blitzo NEVER communicated why he did't like the way stolas acte around him, why SHOULD stolas think the pet names are nothign more than playful flirtation when blitzo would never say otherwise?
@@sarafontanini7051 "JUST SAY MY NAME RIGHT"
- Blitz, S1E5
Anyway, Blitz never protested the arrangement itself because he was fine with fucking Stolas as a way to pay rent for the book. That's the arrangement Stolas proposed in episode 1 and which Blitz agreed to. That's fine. Fucking Stolas is just a job that Blitz has to put up with and Blitz has made the calculation that it's a fair transaction with clear boundaries. Heck, he might even enjoy it, but no one in SW should entertain thoughts of romancing a John, 999 times out of 1000, that kind of thinking will just get you hurt. The problems come when Stolas feels dissatisfied with just being a sugar daddy and tries to uproot the arrangement without proper communication.
It's good that they broke it off though, and hopefully they can both work on themselves now.
@@helenanilsson5666 💯
Danny whenever reacting to ep. 1:
"I hate this shaggy carpet with a beak"
Idk if I'm more disturbed at the I the fact that he's an owl, or he's talking to a red lizard (basically his mood towards Stolas)
Present Danny:
"98% of the characters could die and if Stolas was happy then I'd be fine with it"
"my favorite little bird boy"
"I just want him to be happy"
Me: "Who said change was bad exactly?"
he became a stolas defender ...
but at the cost of turning into a blitzo hater
Its the Ranpo effect, He hates them then when they have trauma, he loves them
“Change is good” - Hayley Williams
@@bunxx_wow
You just resumed how I started to like MOST of my favorite characters
Character development!
If I see anyone blaming only Stolas or only blitz I’m gonna scream. They both fucked up, they both have unresolved trauma that they triggered in eachother
i do agree while i feel like if it were on scales blitz would be a bit heavier, but for the most part they both did have there own hand in how that relationship is now.
@@loganyou7512I actually disagree, but we both agree they are both to blame tho😅
It is definitely harder to see how stolas messed it up as it looks like his is trying very hard on the surface, and blitz is just about the most socially inept character in media. But I find Stolas issues in how he handled things in this episode to be perpetuations of his classicism and hypocrisy we see earlier in the series even though he thinks he is doing better to not be either of those things. Especially since he blindsides blitz with everything with no real warning and doesn’t let blitz process anything before storming off thinking that blitz definitely gave him an immediate straight answer.
@@joshturner6074 exacly, Stolas had this grand romantic image in his mind, and you can see when it starts failing he starts panicking and rushing through the plan, which causes Blitz to have emotional whiplash from thinking he's losing his entire business to not i guess? And then Stolas gets mad he might think its all a joke at his expense
@@kunilsen2519 @loganyou7512 I think the scales might be more towards Blitz in general, but Stolas is definitely the MVP of screwing up in this episode. No warning, no conversation, just a speech that he probably rehearsed days in advance and a checklist of things to do that didn't include letting Blitz know that he wouldn't need the book before taking it from him. You can really tell Stolas never had an actual relationship before and has an idealized vision of how romance works.
Part of the problem is that stolas doesn't recognize how much power he has over blitz. But blitz 100% is aware of that power imbalance. Stolas *starting* by taking away the book triggered fight or flight, ya know?
How it started: "Weird furry owl man...?"
How it's going: " *MY FAVORITE LITTLE BIRD BOI* "
(Edit: WHAT IN THE UNHOLY HELL?! HOW DID THIS GET SO MANY LIKES...)
I rewatch this series so much because of just that. Lmao.
If i had a nickel for every character Dany disliked that turned out to be his favorite i would have 2 nickels
@@golesh-ow5dpwhich isn't alot but it's weird that it happened twice.
its giving ranpo
People agree! 😆
“Blitzo lost, Stolas won.” No I don’t think anyone won that night. 😂
No one won, but it was a necessary loss for both of their development
My exact words😭 Danny doesn’t understand these characters
@@appa9486 I mean he definitely prefers Stolas than Blitzo.
@@appa9486 He's just fanboying a little too hard over Stolas, and forgetting that unlike the audience Blitz doesn't spend any time in birdy-boy's brain. We as an audience have spent so much time watching scenes that exist exclusively to establish Stolas' feelings and his motivation, and Blitz hasn't really been privy to those moments.
@@qdaddy9935 that is fine but he thinks that blitzo just hurts stolas on purpose with full bad intentions which is not true and then he also think stolas was making it incredibly obvious to blitzo which also isnt true, blitzo has basically only seen season1 stolas, like him saying stolas won is silly bc he obviously did not he thought he was rejected he looks miserable in the trailer
2:18
Danny: i only want Stolas to be happy
Viviepop: *laughs in pure evil*
(Edit: sorry for spelling his name Fanny, LOL)
Vivzie: lol. Lmao
Ah yes, fanny
My favourite reaction RUclipsr Fanny
aksjdh fanny
Ah yes the classic creator fanny notta
Its honestly so heartbreaking to me that Blitz cant fathom someone actually loving him and thinks its a rp. Like you see it on his face when he realized and than defaulted to anger as a defense
The most important take-away from the end of this episode is that neither Blitz or Stolas is fully at fault for how things happened. Blitz's first confused reaction was aggression, which is not great, but Stolas responded by shutting down and sending him away before he could fully process the conversation.
And the thing with Blitz isn't just "forgive him, he has trauma", it's that his trauma has manifested as an insane amount of self hatred that makes him unable to believe that anyone could love him. Stolas's feelings might be clear to the audience, but it's always gone right over Blitz's head. He's mean to Stolas because their relationship has been a power imbalance, with his livelihood basically held over his head, and he genuinely believes Stolas only sees him as a sex toy, until this episode that is. And we see the second that registers for him, he actually tries to apologize, but Stolas doesn't give him the chance. Which, yeah, it's within Stolas's rights to not stand there and take verbal abuse. So ultimately, they just both need to get on the same page and actually try to understand each other.
This. This is the tru shit
Also, to add onto your perfect take: Stolas doesn't realize ab the classism that is happening. He views Bitzø as his equal, but Bitzø thinks that Stolas is ashamed of him due to this class difference. (You can see this in his reaction when Stolas covers his face at Ozzies) We can also assume that Bitzø has experienced classism before, considering that fact that they are at the literal bottom of the pyramid (technically he is above hell hounds, but that's ab it) Bitzø also believes, and is technically trapped in their agreement of the exchange of s3x for the ability to work and yk the ability to eat. This is very apparent in his truth gas trip. Another thing that was revealed in the gas trip is that he craves affection, yet can't fathom anyone acc liking him. This is where it is most apparent that Bitzø thinks that Stolas views him as only a s3x toy. Also, Bitzø was bought by Piamon, Stolas' dad, so the classism goes HARD there. Going back to the exchange, Stolas made the agreement ab the exchange when Bitzø was being shot at and therfore Bitzø didn't have the time, energy, or environment to process the agreement. Going back to the gas trip, i think the revalation that Bitzø craves affection but does fathom the prospect that anyone could acc like him, his is where he lashes out on Stolas. But when he realizes that Stolas acc likes him, he tries to go and apologize, but he got portal yeeted out of the room. (Like you said though, good on stolas for not taking the verbal abuse from Bitzø) So yeah, messy all around.
Update on that situation: it’s better now
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm legitimately sooooooo glad to see that there's someone who genuinely understands the dynamic between these 2, because it's so frustrating to me to see Danny genuinely completely miss Blitzø's side of the story and completely hate him because he thinks it's a completely one sided thing
You cannot get mad at Blitzø for calling Stolas "the bird" when Stolas calls him "his little imp"
Especially when it’s just stating what he is- Ozzie even called him “Birdy babe” in ep 2.6. “My little imp” implies ownership and condescension. Furthermore, I think referring to Stolas as “the bird” in front of other people is part of Blitzø building up a wall (as Stolas references in “Look My Way”) to keep himself safe. They’re not friends, he won’t say they’re lovers, even Stolas’s name may have loaded feelings for Blitzø, so it’s just easier to flippantly say “the bird.”
Ngl Danny is kinda frustrating me lol I wonder if he’s doing it on purpose
The thing is, Stolas shows intimacy when it comes to his pet names. You see this in couples who love each other, coming up with cute names for each other. Stolas was referred to as "the bird", not "my bird" showing less of a connection. Blitz only thought of this as transactional. He knew Stolas had feelings because he acknowledged it. "Are we okay" "why does it have to be so complicated" it's because he knew Stolas might have feelings for him, that Stolas wasn't playing with him. Blitz was listening to everyone but he couldn't be dismissive anymore. He played it off as a joke instead of talking it out. Stolas had been trying to talk to him about their relationship for a while. Now it has come to a head.
@@TheKillerman3333 Personally, I don't think Blitz ever believed Stolas had feelings for him. Between his own self-loathing and what happened at Ozzie's, Blitz's mind was pretty firmly set that Stolas wasn't in love with him. But, we know from the picture he took on his phone and his quiet reaction to Stolas getting hurt that he did have budding feelings for Stolas. Him asking if they're ok is probably more to do with the fact that the last time they interacted in any form but text was when Stolas was kidnapped, tortured and almost died.
@@TheKillerman3333 well the other thing is, some petnames can be degrading someone if they dont like it. Blitz might have just put up with it because it meant he could do the transaction to keep the book but in secret hated it, which lines up with his reaction here and how he rarely(if never) smiles at ever being called that.
One of the things I like most about this episode is that it showcases one of Stolas' genuine flaws in a way that is played for laughs or resolved within the episode. Stolas doesn't listen well. He is often insightful and is inarguably mindful of the people he cares about, but we have seen him come to his own conclusions and move forward with them while actively ignoring what those people are saying. He does this with Octavia in both of her episodes, and does so with Blitzo repeatedly. He sees Blitzo's outburst as a rejection while ignoring that Blitzo is literally following him and shouting that he wants the confrontation and he then gives into his interpretation of the response and the pain that brings him by teleporting Blitzo away. It is great to see such a nuanced flaw displayed so well
Also. Blitz has ABSOLUTELY NO CONFLICT RESOLUTION SKILLS outside of violence. That's why he lashes out and wants to physically fight Stolas. He doesn't know how to handle the emotions so he turns to anger
@fawnallen5261 I doubt he wanted a physical fight, he's seen how powerful Stolas is, he just wants to argue aka his version of talking it out. They both messed up here.
@@darlingfawn07And that triggers Stolas because he's just getting out of an abusive relationship where Stella followed after him yelling degrading things at him.
@@amandap7599 i mean maybe? But theres been MULTIPLE times over where Stolas has just been indifferent/unaffected by stellas screaming and shit, if he isnt just yelling back at her.
@@amandap7599 Stolas usually just matches Stella snark for snark, only ever not doing so when she hired Striker to kill him. Hell, he is even able to tune out her screaming about wanting him dead while at the same table with her as she hires said assassin
Its actually refreshing to see most of these comments talking about how nuanced Stolas and Blitzø’s relationship is. I keep seeing one-sided takes on the topic and it gets tiring.
Blitzos first reaction was a heartbreaking "I can do better". One point I think a lot of people miss is that Blitzo literally met Srolas because his dad sold him as a kid. He has abandonement issues and is trying to keep Stolas by doing the things he knows works. They both have issues.
I wonder how many time he had said this to his dad
SERIOUSLY?! Like he was literally sold... that would give someone trust issues??
Danny saying “But you want him to.” Then screaming “AHHHHH! Bitch I knew it!” At 16:26 is the best thing ever lmfao
LITERALLY 😂😂😂
He's like a fangirl😂
HE DIDN'T NOTICE THAT BLITZØ WAS ABOUT TO SAY "I'm sorry" BEFORE HE GOT TELEPORTED AWAY?!?!
I WAS SO ANGRY ABOUT THAT
To be fair I didn’t notice that either on my first watch-through
I mean, I hate to say it but both Blitz and Stolas are flawed, Stolas probably acted out of impulse, or just in the heat of the moment
Yeah but what is saying sorry gonna fix?
@@The_R3AL_Akutagawa he cut out pretty much every moment of Blitz having a point or being hurt by Stolas. Like, he even cut out the whole start when Blitz is crying on his knees begging for Stolas not to kill his business
"I'm finally caught up with Helluva boss."
Unfortunate upload timing again.
FULL MOON WE’RE GONNA BREAK DANNY
As soon as I heard, "All I want is for Stolas to be happy" I died
"also what the fuck is a cloaca" 🤣🤣
He's going to cry lmao
WE BEEN KNOWN
"It's [a] high quality."
" *BREAK DOWN* "
‐ Metal Cluster Hopper progrise key in Forceriser, lightly paraphrased.
Boy can't wait to see Danny completely distraught over stolas
I’m just as scared as his reaction to it as I was through the episode on my first watch
yeah thats gonna be uhh annoying sorry not sorry
I love that I think the exact opposite. Stolas' needed this more than Blitz. Cuz Stolas never really understood how much he's hurt Blitz on treating him like a toy. Stolas for a majority of their relationship made everything about sex and this is actually a reaping of what he's planted.
And you don't just drop something like that out of nowhere. And it's out of nowhere for Blitz, because he can't comprehend the idea that someone might care, very less someone of higher status that constantly belittled him (impish little plaything)
Blitz litterly started the transaction with sex
Yeah add to that the fact that Blitz spent the whole episode trying to get ready for the full moon and I think he looked pretty excited when he first got there so if Stolas maybe warned Blitz before hand like "hey we're gonna do something different tonight only bring the book" or didn't start the conversation by asking for the book it could've gone better
I'd argue they both needed this. You're right on all counts with Stolas, but the way I'm seeing this from Blitz's perspective is that the relationship was changing in a big way, and his immediate reaction was to lash out and try to make Stolas hate him, the way we know he acted in earlier relationships. He failed to manage it, hurt Stolas in the process, and realized too late what he was doing. Now he just needs to own it to grow as a character, and maybe have a chance of working this out
@@EditDeath I totally agree. It's just that there's a need to defend Stolas in almost everyone, and I do think his softer exterior and eloquence makes him more likeable, but most people don't recognize his guilt on the matter
@@randomperson9249I fully agree, I think starting the conversation with "give me the book", was a TERRIBLE way to go abt it. Blitz is now already stressed after legit begging for his job, and it definitely triggered his fight or flight. If he maybe just said "hey, I need my book back, but don't worry I'll give you something else", that would've helped WAY better than just "hand me the book"😭
“Spring??? SPRING?!?!?! He’s been trying to build a connection with you for so long it’s practically WINTER!” - thank you for putting my feelings for Blitzø’s outburst into words, my man 🙇♀️
My heart shattered when he didn’t put any reaction to Stolas’s line “Am I doing something I can’t take back? Would he stay here if he was free? And if he’s only here as a prisoner, what kind of monster does that make me?” Or something
Because that would detract from Blitz being the only bad part of this situationship… when it is clear they both had bad ways of dealing with the deal between them.
Eh, he already chose to ignore that part of the plot when he said the idea Stolas forced Blitzo was gaslighting on Blitzo's part😅
@@FrancescaAkira89 also, when it came to the part when blitzo was laying out his trauma so clearly and bluntly ("you royal fucks...") he LITERALLY JUST STRAIGHT UP FUCKING IGNORED IT IN ITS ENTIRETY. I don't even know what to say to that..
@@EmiyaHikari That's what got me was how Blitzo said that. As if he(or someone he knows, like his mom?) has been screwed over before because of royal "love"
How about we add the fact that in the Lulu land episode, Stolas literally put his cigarette out on Blitzø's horn? He has constantly shown him (and all imps) lack of basic decency.
I love blitzø because he's clearly traumatized and separating himself from others, preventing himself from getting close to others.
Which works directly AGAINST Stolas's trauma and his anxiety. It's such a good doomed romance story, and I really hope it ends with a happy ending regardless.
I think it will, we’ve been shown that Blitzø does have feelings for Stolas, he just pushes it all down and squashes any hope for it because he’s convinced that Stolas just sees him as a toy. Rightfully so, but I also think that Blitzø has another source of trauma we haven’t seen yet. He’s made multiple comments about how “you royals think you can ALWAYS do this” and “all royals are the same” heavily implying that he has experience with another. I think he worked for some Royal when he was younger and fell for him, but got his feelings played with and strung along until he was dropped without warning. Theres something else going on inside Blitzøs head that makes him react like this. Because is he really didn’t care about Stolas at all, he probs would have been absolutely fine with the crystal and wouldn’t have gone through all that effort into trying to please him.
It either has to end all cute and happy or Romeo and Juliet style
yes! This shows in his relationship with Loona, too! I don’t think Blitzø would feel nearly as comfortable mooning and being sweet to Loona if she didn’t growl and groan about it - at least in the beginning. Since he’s been her adoptive dad for years, she could probably lighten up a bit and let him in some. I do think part of how she acts is her being young + moody - but part of it is to make Blitzø comfortable being gooey and sweet to her. She understands him, as shown in the end of the Beelzebub ep during the scene she brings him home and tucks him in.
Blitzo has intense levels of self loathing causing him to think stolas truly doesn't love him because he thinks no one could love him. not to mention they are both at fault for how they started the relationship not just Blitzo. They all need therapy. NEITHER OF THEM IS PERFECT
It took me forever to watch this episode because I immediately knew that Danny wouldn't understand Blitz and hate everything he does in the episode.
Me and you both. I keep coming to comments for reassurance that there are people reminding him that Blitzø, while an ass, isn't an ass without due cause considering his understanding and position in the circumstances. I adore Stolas, he's a sweetheart and sincere and earnest, but he's also a privileged and sheltered man who doesn't truly understand the power balance that's been struck with their transactional relationship.
11:52 it's been established that imps having businesses is extremely, unimaginably rare. As a tangent, Beelzebub is queen of gluttony, and it seems like Hellhounds are her main peeps - hellhounds also resemble what she looks like. Imps are native to Wrath, so Satan probably looks similar to imps, sloth demons are goats and Belphegor is the most goat-y demon, Asmodeus' people seem to be the Ars Goetia, who are bird-y like him, Envy demons are sharks or shark-y with Leviathan being a giant sea monster. Now, who works in shops, selling things to people? Spiders. Who's left unmentioned and is the king of greed? Mammon.
So the vendors are all spiders because they are all Mammon's demons doing Greed-y work. You'll notice they're not particularly good at engaging with lusty shit - a lust-y demon like a succubus or incubus would probably figure out what kind of candle Blitz wants, what kind of harness he might need, etc - the spiders instead just offer up everything that might fit the bill of what Blitz is asking.
First of all, great break down. Very enjoyable read.
But I do want to ask, weren't the sucubi of the lust ring?
I was kinda under the assumption the ars goatia were those who abandoned heaven with lucifer (as we see many bird like similarities in the angels in hazbin hotel also it seems like a good reason for the existence of royalty beyond the king and queen of hell)
Though that last part is just something I've seen other fans speculate on
And Lucifer is a fallen angel / human-like looking and there are the sinners, who are humans ^^
holy shit viv's world building actually makes sense? this is an awesome day
Right sucubi are from the lust Ring. The Goatia basically demon royality.
I kinda thought that the Ars Goatia were just a separate kind of people
Even though Stolas had good intentions and Blitz is an idiot, I feel like Danny’s forgetting that Stolas kind of set himself up for failure from the beginning. He acknowledges the power dynamic in their relationship (Blitzo’s livelihood depends on the book) but he still makes the same mistakes, controlling the conversation and putting Blitzo in full panic mode while sending mixed messages. And though he views him as his equal, he habitually demeans Blitzo without realising it, like imagine calling someone “my little (insert species) here”, “my impish little plaything” . Yikes. Blitzo is also at fault definitely, I just see a lot of defense for Stolas and blaming of Blitzo.
What’s interesting about Blitzo and Stolas’s situation in this episode is how absolutely divided fans are about who’s more in the wrong, and I’m honestly enjoying it.
Blitzo and Stolas are both equals in how they’ve ruined their relationship, but for different reasons. They’re not only failing to communicate, they’re failing to communicate in a way that’s courteous to the other’s form of communication. Stolas dives too deep too fast into feelings, and Blitzo goes out of his way to avoid being vulnerable at all. They both need to relax and listen.
10000% the situation was shit from both sides. Like Stolas is my favorite character but I know for a fact that he didn’t handle this by taking into consideration what Blitzø would think. Like if he took a moment to explain after blitzø thought he was joking to be like no I’m serious and I want to talk about it. But he just shut down while Blitzø was still in panic mode. It’s like they both were at different stages of this discussion; Stolas having been thinking of this nonstop for months and Blitzø just now finding out that maybe the situation and feelings were genuinely real. Blitzø was at the beginning of the discussion while Stolas was already at the final thoughts.
Yeah i agree. Stolas is making such clear rich kid mistakes. He did not set clear boundaries nor communicate that he wanted anything but sex when he started, then has the audacity to expect more. He has set up everything in the relationship from the full moon thing to the sexually charged relationship. Blitz isnt perfect but he was under the impression that this was transactional, and there was no feelings. Stolas has a clear communication problem. In my opinion, this is a clear clash of no experience vs bad experience
@@Tired_Sandwitch You've summed up what happened in the last few minutes of this episode perfectly.
Agreed. Everyone sucks in the situation, but Stolas started the conversation by shooting himself in the foot. Stolas hurt his own feelings by not actually considering Blitzø's feelings.
Danny's face of pure joy at Stolas' "but I want you to" after he just said "but you want him to" and his "ah bitch I knew it" was such a highlight lmao. Love Danny being Stolas #1 defender. Never change Danny
I loved this episode for not falling into the miscommunication trope. Stolas gets to say exactly what he means to say as clearly as he wants to say it and I love that. Also, I'm so excited that you're reacting to the Owl House! I can't wait to see what you think!
I think the best way to truly understand how both of them are equally at fault in the relationship, is to watch Sarcastic Chorus' videos on the ship. His most recent one goes into why Stolas was more at fault here than Blitz, while still stating what Blitz did wrong. He always shows both sides, which is why I think those vids are the best at highlighting this relationship and its problems.
I was just about to comment this lol
I was going to comment about Georgia Dow.
Yes this fr ^ I don't agree with absolutely everything SC says, but I think he really goes into stuff that typical viewers don't even realize or pick up on. And it makes you realize that Stolas isn't as perfect here as some people think he was. they are both just messed up people on a journey and we're going to see the fallout of this episode in apology tour this month, where I hope it's made really clear how at fault they both were.
And it is problems?
Oh, yeah, SC really does a great job highlighting the flaw of Stolas's communication and very, VERY tangible layers between their placements in their society.
Blitz's reaction actually wasn't really surprising to me. His entire life from his childhood at the circus to the business he's running to his deal with Stolas has always been about what he's providing. His entire worth is wrapped up in that and from his point of view the only relationships he has are based upon what he can do for everyone else. So when finally presented with one genuine moment where someone wants to be with him for him and not what he does for them, it makes sense that he'd read it as a bit and default back to what he has been providing. Hoping that with the next episode being called "Apology Tour" there will at least be some friendly reconciliation, even if its not romantic. Proud of the boy Stolas finally finding his self worth and clearly laying out what he wants. I too want to see more building between him and Olivia since you can see she's the only thing about his family that he cares about since she was the only part of any picture that was left uncovered during the Blitz/Stolas confrontation.
I think its gonna be more of a blitz talking with previous exes and trying to get some shit together.
“ Even his forehead is crying”
“Black butler season 4 reaction is coming soon” I STARTED JUMPING UP AND DOWN IM SO EXCITED TO SEE DANNYS REACTION TO IT
IKR ??
SAMEEE
FR
I wasn't aware there was a season 3. Is it on Crunchy Roll?
@@zoewood555season 3 is Book of Circus. I believe Danny skipped the second half of season 1 and all of season 2 because it's 100% not canon (to the manga), thats why the one airing right now is season 4
“Why are all the shopkeepers spiders?” Just a theory but it’s because Mammon, the Prince of Greed, is a spider. They are greed monsters so it makes sense they’re more likely to open a business.
they're in Lust though? i mean i guess greed demons could work in Lust but i dont see why they would, especially in sex shops.
@@feralbaby Why not? Imps originate from Wrath, but they've successfully established themselves all over the rings. There's business to be made in Lust, of course Greed demons will be interested in doing business. Sex sells. If there's ANY place outside of Greed where Greed demons would feel at home it would be in their own Lust sex shop.
@@feralbaby Maybe lust demons are about sex services, not sell toys services?
It's a spirited away reference lmao
I think what irritates me the most about the Blitz slander and saying "well, everyone has trauma, he's not special" is yeah, no duh. But we aren't all the same person and handle trauma the same, do we? We weren't raised with the same priorities, beliefs, expectations, roles in our family, etc. So while Blitz's actions and overall handling of stressful situations don't make sense to some people, there are plenty of people who relate to him and his trauma response.
The tragedy of their relationship isn't that they don't care about each other. We clearly see that they do. It's that they were raised with completely different understandings of their worth and place in the world and have entirely different approaches to communicating. Blitz has always had to feel like he has to be louder, bigger, and more aggressive just to be heard because he's no one, he's just an ex-circus imp that was overshadowed and underappreciated. Stolas has been put on a pillar and told he has to be perfect nobility his whole life while being abused and screamed at. So of course he isn't going to react well to Blitz's loud and emotional outburst. Just like Blitz isn't going to see this prince of Hell (the person he was literally rented out to as a child) and take his confession as genuine. It's heartbreaking and such a nuanced situation
Not to mention the boy blew up his family's circus, his mom and his best friend/crush all in one action. Like bro thats some pro-level trauma
13:56 “I CHOSE THE WOMEN BECAUSE THEY HAVE A SMALLER HITBOX!!!” Energy
its ironic that danny misunderstands blitzø the same way stolas does. both think they're not worth the other, but blitzø has all reason to because of status, stolas is royalty while blitzø is the lowest of hells hirachy. blitzø has MASSIVE self-esteem issues and tries to fix their relationship the only way he can think of - going back how it was, all about s3x.
we've seen to the end of the queen bee episode thats blitzø wants love, but when he finally realized that he had the chance and that chance is seemingly gone, too, its already to late and he snaps, understandably.
I'm kinda hoping the bias is part of the bit XP, but there are a ton of fans that see it the way Danny does, despite how misguided it is. Its Bias of what we see, versus what Blitzø never ever gets to see from Stolas
Danny didn't misunderstand. Blitzo fans did
Something that should be pointed out is how fked up deal Stolas made was.
Imagine you get out of being almost homeless because you score 1 in a thousand job, and then your boss tells you you gotta fk him to keep it.
OFC thats not what Stolas wanted, not what he meant, but thats what he did.
True! Not to mention Stolas was still in complete control of the situation, even when he tried to give Blitzo a choice. He literally put him into this situation, and haven’t given him ANY time to think. He was hoping for either an immediate positive response or nothing.
@@iammemys2213 Stolas is just as wrong as Blitzø is in this situation.
He does not listen to Blitz, he doesn’t give him any time to process what was happening, and immediately dismisses him after not getting the reaction he was initially hoping for.
Stolas LITERALLY gave blitz all the reasons to believe they were just a transactional thing, belittling blitz on several occasions, sexualising him even when blitz was clearly uncomfortable with it (remember the first half of season 1) etc.
The conflict between them is not that Stolas is good and caring, and blitz is heartless and terrible. They both don’t understand each other and do not communicate their feelings like.. at all!
It’s funny that people were complaining about the cherubs taking time away from stolas and blitz but it’s great to see Danny loving the comedy the cherubs bring in this episode
Yeah I kinda liked it
They were? For what?
@@Misto_deVito6009 apparently some people just wanted the entire episode to be the stolas and blitz drama with no distractions. Like I get it but you do need comedy in the comedy show
@stevenhedge2850 of course people fùçķíŋĝ did. Why bother to have an actual show, right? Let's just have two characters hangout because we love them. Screw everything else because thats what the show is all about.
The fact that a "baby" getting his face slammed to the desk is fanservice is exactly what the Fandom needs is crazy XD
9:24 "Loona i'd ring your weird wolf little neck but I'm afraid I'd like it too much" LMAO
Guys we have to interact to pay for Danny's therapy now
Interacting to pay o7
Interacting to pay o7 part 2
I'll pay when he starts understanding BOTH of them
@@sandracarnegie2871 that's what the therapy is for mate
I think the reason why people get mad over the blitz slander is because when you talk about him it feels like you're ignoring how his trauma effects his behavior towards people like Stolas which he believes don't actually care about him. He's not mean to Stolas just for the sake of being mean, he really does care and we see that in small moments like when he is scared he'll die alone or when he calls out Fizz and Ozzie for mocking his relationship or most notably all of the effort he went through in this episode to try and make the night enjoyable for Stolas because that's what he was afraid was happening. His trauma has conditioned him to believe that no one really cares about him and no matter how much Stolas says so he's unable to bring himself to believe it which I think is why he gets so angry at the end. To him it was just another night of sex per their agreement so when Stolas suddenly made it very serious everything else Stolas has said throughout the season doesn't occur to Blitz because he's head is stuck in the moment and all he hears is how Stolas doesn't want him anymore. You didn't feature the moment in the video but when Blitz first tries to reason with Stolas he asks if he wasn't doing enough and that he could be better which to me is him trying to curve his behavior from very horny like he was prepared for to trying to get where Stolas is but at this point Stolas had already made up his mind that Blitz doesn't really care and actively walked away from him and when the conversation got to its most difficult point Stolas kind of took the easy way out and instead of actually arguing with Blitz when he gave him the chance he teleported him out of the mansion which I'm sure to Blitz was the biggest insult of all. Basically I think they both handled the situation horribly and the only way it would have gone any different would be if it was an entirely different situation all together.
15:19 "Like a fucked up Percy Jackson" 😂
Never thought I'd hear a comparison to Percy in this video but I'm here for it lmao
The anti-Blitz bias in the fan community is crazy. More people need to realize the unequal power dynamics in Blitz and Stolas relationship. Blitz is just an imp, a class of demon that quite literally gets exploited and treated like expendable machinery by the Ars Goetia all the time.
This heavily colors the way Blitz perceives Stolas and their relationship. Couple this with the fact that, in the beginning, Stolas did in fact treat their relationship as purely transactional and treated him as a mere playtoy (he called him his "impish plaything" for example) and Blitz believing Stolas is just using him in this unequal power dynamic makes sense.
And also: We as an audience saw many vulnerable Stolas moments which Blitz did not see. We simply know more about Stolas than Blitz does in this regard.
Blitz isn't right, but Stolas hasn't been a beacon of innocence here either.
Not that I think this will change your mind but Viv herself said both Blitz and Stolas made mistakes in the conversation and Sam Haft (song writer) has said that Blitz isn’t cruel, he’s self loathing and Stolas isn’t cruel, he’s sheltered. The fact that Blitz takes note of the imp butlers while Stolas doesn’t seem to understand why Blitz may feel like servant like them especially being bought for Stolas as a child, not to mention Stolas was more prepared to express his feeling since he thought that way for a while which Blitz wasnt clearly reading from Stolas making them both on different pages accidentally triggering each other. They did thier best but it’s not solely Blitz’s fault and, I don’t think Blitz knows Stolas got divorced. This whole thing started as affair. They both needed to get their say out there and I think things will slowly get better from here.
AFTER THIS IS THE OWL HOUSE?? OMG DANNY U WONT REGRET! One of the best animated shows, the second season and third season are insane
Best is a stretch
I agree I do also think it's one of the best shows
Stolas and Blitzø care so much for each other but they do it in different ways which contradict each other. Blitzø does in fact care because He Tried To Apologize at the end there before he got cut off. He just didn't believe anyone could genuinely love him so he just pushes it away.While Stolas shows his love through actions which Blitzø doesnt 'see' as love just a part of their deal or an added benefit to it.
Also, I like how Blitzø just went through 4 out of 5 stages of grief in their talk.He denied it first, tried to bargain into stolas letting him keep the book,got angry at him and finally accepted the fact that maybe stolas was actually serious about caring about him. Cant wait to see the last one🥲
Danny in the intro hoping for stolas justice
Us: you got a big storm heading towards you
Dramatic Irony: When the audience knows something the characters do not.
I feel like a lot of Stolas stans forget that Blitz isn't seeing everything we see about what's going in Stolas's mind and personal life.
Yeah, I've been noticing that when binging through reaction videos. Stolas gets trashed talked *almost* non-stop (with a breather to praise his singing in episode 2) right until we get to the "that's a mood Gabriella" in episode 7. Until that point everyone was in agreement that he was ultimately characterized as an extremely horny imp-sexual cheating bird. Then the moment we actually see things from his perspective everyone just collectively forgets what their perception of him started off as, and that Blitz still has that initial perspective.
exactly!!! - a Stolas stan
But I think this works vice versa, we know a lot more about Blitz than Stolas does
@@Star-uq2ox Absolutely. Stolas doesn't seem to know that Blitz was bought the day they had a playdate. He doesn't seem to know about Blitz's long history of losing people and his relationships (romantic or otherwise) crashing and burning.
But...he does know that Blitz is an imp. One of the lowest social classes of Hell. He knows that there is an inherent power imbalance and that if he's going to treat Blitz like an equal, he needs to be clear to Blitz that it's not a trap or mockery. Especially since his "high opinion" of Blitz doesn't appear to extend to the imp butler he used as a stress ball while on the phone with Stella earlier this season.
@@helenanilsson5666 Nah, stolas got trashed SO HARD after this ep even tho Blitz did as much damage if not more. Blitz fans try to understand trauma doesnt mean u get a pass for acting like this challenge failed once again lol Stolas tried. He genuinely tried after Ozzie's. For so many months. And its been EXPLICITLY said by Blitz and shown in various ways TO BLITZ and to the viewers. Is it Stolas's fault Blitz REFUSES to see it? And yet the fans punish Stolas so hard bc they had a sex deal, he called him a plaything ONCE and bc he is a royalty lol Lets completely forget Blitz manipulating and using him in Ozzie's. Manipulating him again and using sex in the Circus ep. Not making effort to do anything. Mocking, yelling at him and calling him names in this ep. And somehow this is all fine bc Blitz has trauma? Ridiculous. Stolas has made mistakes. Even iin this ep. But the way so many fans tried to completely absolve Blitz of everything he has done is insane. Viv herself acknowledges that both have faults. Stolas gave Blitz a chance here and Blitz sabotaged himself bc of his trauma (mocking his confession) and then took it out on Stolas. Doesnt mean Stolas has to take it lol I would have done worse than Stolas if someone did this shit to me ngl.
Danny please read these comments, their explaining both sides of the story. Stolas literally did spring the "feelings" thing, he didn't even tell Blitz why they were meeting that night, he treats other imps like crap, there's so much evidence that Stolas isn't the nicest guy.
Yes I do have to say that Stolas has a soft spot for blitz but we’ve clearly seen how poorly he treats other imps. It’s kinda like dating a waiter or waitress and then yelling at waitstaff anytime you go out. Just treating one person differently doesn’t speak to your full character, especially where this relationship is concerned since Stolas is in a position of power. Blitz had no clues or time to think of the dynamic as anything but transactional
Blitz has been on a redemption arc all of season 2. He's on a path towards realizing that he can eventually forgive himself and work on his self worth issues. I predict that he'll be able to convince Stolas that he's aware of his issues, and he's working on himself enough to accept Stolas' love.
I honestly love both. I am mad at both for this episode. They needed to talk to each other and not at each other. They said what they think without about the other. I love them both and the episodes right now are amazing
This episode is very clearly meant to parallel Ozzies in a lot of ways, and, like how Blitz was almost fully in the wrong during Ozzies, I think Stolas was in the wrong during this. He invites Blitz for their regular night and doesn’t tell him to expect anything different, refuses to explain anything when he is taking the book, and then turns his back on Blitz the instant he wasn’t immediately super greatful for the crystal and then kicks him out of his house.
The fact that Blitz was going to apologise tho
The fact that Danny literally cut that away
Yeah, after screaming at him, calling him a bitch and essentially accusing him of just using blitzo as a toy. Theres a certain point when you’re on the phone eith a toxic partner where you just have to hang up the phone on them
@@josephwilliams1251 true but that's after ending a relationship without letting the other person properly answer. hate how the how Stolas taking the book screwed so much up
@@NonnoSandroBebop He also cut the part where Blitz was desperately begging Stolas to not end their deal because his entire life depends on Stolas' whims, which is a pretty crucial reminder of how utterly unequal this relationship was. 🤔
The damage was already done, it was too late to apologize and Stolas had every right to react the way he did, Blitz really hurt his feelings. People shouldn't put their feelings to the side to comfort the person who hurt them. Blitz can shove that apology up his arse in a bad painful way and deal with the consequences of his actions. Blitz is my favorite character but he messed up bad and people are being too optimistic about their relationship and think everything would go as planned and forgetting that both of these men are flawed and traumatized people.
Dude Stolas has all the power in their relationship, yeah Blitzø has the communication skills of a hammer but this mess isn’t one sided. Stolas Sent the terms of their interactions and Blitzø is trying to shield himself from heartbreak that he’s being experiencing not stop back to back since childhood
Blitz doesn’t think anyone likes him and that he is unlovable he also can’t fathom proper intimacy but also craves it
24:20 Danny just said that Luna doesn’t have trauma, but she lived in a dog shelter where she was about to age out and get put down. He has a ton of trauma and belongs in S tier with Moxie
It’s crazy, it’s like he hasn’t even watched the show, like he only remembers parts with Stolas and then he remembers them with rose tinted glasses for Stolas
Literally the only character without trauma is millie. Everyone has either not shown up long enough to have any revealed or the cause of the trauma.
Her trauma is kind of downplayed though, especially in comparison to other characters like Moxxie and Blitzo who had entire episodes dedicated to exploring said trauma.
She wasn't about to be put dow, she would "only" have to face adulthood without a safety net.
@@helenanilsson5666 yeah I was like WTF they don't kill the hellhounds lol
I don't see this as a "taking back his power/self worth" thing for Stolas. His words and actions show that he isn't looking to end the relationship or stop Blitzø from treating him badly, but instead wants to shift the dynamic to one that's based on their genuine feelings for each other instead of something toxic and transactional.
And to Stolas, it's as simple as that; "be here because it's what we both want." But in the world that Blitzø lives in, it's completely unheard of and doesn't even register as a possibility (hence Luna's immediate assumption that Stolas must have gotten bored with Blitzø and is about to give him the brush off).
You see the divide in their thinking due to their social classes there as well. Stolas is royalty, so whatever he wanted was essentially at his fingertips (for the most part). That explains why the first time he asks for something from the heart and isn't met with an emphatic "yes", he immediately interprets it as a "no" and walks away heartbroken.
Meanwhile for Blitzø, the agreement with Stolas was his only way to live on his own terms and have a life that's different from other imps. That's why when Stolas is talking about ending it, Blitzø immediately begs him not to. Then when he hears what Stolas proposes, he goes right back into the mindset that anyone else in hell would have, which is that it must be some sort of joke or kinky game because why would a royal ever actually care for an imp?
And even though Stolas didn't give Blitzø the time to even question the status quo and consider another perspective (that Stolas' actions could be out of genuine affection instead of boredom or horniness), the fact that Blitzø tried to apologize when he saw Stolas crying gives me hope that he may be willing to tear down his walls a bit and consider that both his and Stolas' feelings are real.
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You see the divide in their thinking due to their social classes there as well. Stolas is royalty, so whatever he wanted was essentially at his fingertips (for the most part). That explains why the first time he asks for something from the heart and isn't met with an emphatic "yes", he immediately interprets it as a "no" and walks away heartbroken."
I think it's more complex than that, Stolas didn't have his Happy Pills and Blitz had been avoidand for MONTHS, he didn't have many reasons to hope in the first place. Stolas may be used to get what he wants when it's goods, but not when it's related to relationships.
"And even though Stolas didn't give Blitzø the time to even question the status quo and consider another perspective"
I'm a bit annoyed to see so many people claim Stolas didn't give Blitz time to think. Blitz was the one to jump on the roleplay answer, and afterward decided it was a good idea to start yelling and insulting Stolas rather than taking that time to think. I understand his reaction both time, but like the rest of the conversation, it's the fault of their trauma and they both not truly knowing each other.
@@neyaneazrune548 I understand what you mean about Stolas only getting what he wants as far as physical goods instead of relationships or emotional validation, because this poor guy was absolutely stuck in an abusive relationship with gilded bars. But I don't agree with you that Blitz had any time to think or react, because what was Stolas doing before Blitz started yelling? He was already walking away. He took Blitz's misunderstanding as a definite answer. If Blitz didn't yell, and just sat back and reflected on what just happened, they still would be broken up right now, because that's the conclusion Stolas came to before Blitz started yelling.
@@greyscaleanon7551 Again, maybe not, Blitz, if his trauma hadn't kicked in so fast, could have followed without yelling or chosen better words to explain. He mocked Stolas' feelings, then insulted him, of course Stolas wasn't gonna stay to listen to more ^^' But there was ways to salvage this, on both ends. Just... Their trauma talked and clashed. But it's unfair to put in on Stolas not "giving time" when Blitz really wasn't any better and didn't took time to answer in the first place either (his own fear of attachment kicking in).
@@neyaneazrune548 I can see why Stolas INTERPRETED Blitz's roleplay response as mockery, but remember that wasn't how Blitz intended it.
As for why Stolas is being given grief for not giving Blitz time...that's because Stolas HAD time. He spent months planning and making up his mind about all this and never once did it occur to him that Blitz might not have an answer at the ready. Not to mention that the problem he decided to correct--the transactional nature of their situationship--was only scratching the surface of the power imbalance and he completely failed to explain to Blitz what he was planning to do until after Blitz was already in Panic Mode.
@@greyscaleanon7551 Yes and no, I'm not sure of Blitz's intentions because he was definitely self-sabotaging with his reaction to Stolas' confession, but I'm not really sure how much of it is conscious or not.
Also, well, Blitz says himself in the duet he's avoiding Stolas' questions, so even if Stolas had wanted to discuss things beforehand, he couldn't, he really didn't have a choice but blurt out everything at once or Blitz would have fled before/not show up.
I actually think Stolas is the one who is primarily responsible for this going poorly. He didn't give Blitzo like even a second to think about what was happening, and at the end, despite him yelling, Blitzo is specifically telling Stolis to talk to him.
Well maybe because Blitzo was too focused on yelling at Stolas and antagonizing him like Stella rather than simply telling Stolas "I need some time to think"
Biggest thing imo, is how he beat around the bush so much. Especially since (if Look My Way is canon) he understands just how fucked Blitz's self esteem is.
"I think I've fallen in love with you. It's fucking CREEPY of me to make you sleep with me to keep your business running. Here's a crystal so you don't HAVE to do that if you don't want to. With THAT particular power imbalance out of the way, can I ask you on a date?"
@@deathXbyXlight stolas handled it decently not perfect but still really good because he was saying that he wanted blitz as a person not blitz as a prisoner stuck in this loop where he needs the book to make a living and then blitz kind of took what he said as him saying that blitz didn't do good enough and then he was a little surprised and didn't really know how to respond and then stolas took that as him saying he only wanted the book but blitz wanted their contract to stay because he liked stolas and then stolas leaves and blitz was trying to say in a word that he wanted a second to process this to talk to him with him saying "how dare you spring this feeling shit on me" and then at the end you can tell that he felt sorry and we can hear that he was in the middle of saying sorry but then he got teleported out
I ACTUALLY CANNOT WAIT UNTIL YOU REACT TO THE OWL HOUSE!!!!!
Watching Danny SMILE almost the entire breakup scene was so relatable. I know most people were upset or even crying, but I was THRIVING, so it made me feel less alone.
Like yeah, I am 100% Stolas biased, but they both needed this. You can't make an omelette without breaking some eggs. I hope this show explores the downside, ending a relationship (bad or good) but also the upside of it. And also the healing process to keep going.
Right? This feels like it has to be a climax. I'm so tired of the 'will they or won't they'. This really is hell.😂
DANNY IS FINALLY CAUGHT UP!!!
would be funny if new ep came out now that he reacted to dis
Yeah, until apology tour drops in a few days lol
Danny also falling into the "What Blitz knows VS What the audience knows" trap, I see.
Every single intro I just have to pause, have a mild break down about Danny's hopes and dreams for Stolas, and the résumé the video
Danny has glasses that only see one side that can not be denied
18:20 this is super ironic considering Stolas is the one that’s shutting down Blitzo’s attempt at conversation. He’s confused and asks questions, then when he’s getting ignored he falls back to anger which is something he seems to do instinctively, but he airs out his grievances about their relationship. On the other hand, Stolas is unfortunately too fixated on the supposed rejection to really listen or realise this, which also shows how little he understands Blitzo’s feelings in this moment, Stolas causing him to flounder all over in the whole convo when the well established expectation of transactional sex is shattered and he feels like he’s being abandoned
Yeah I agree
Ah yes, stolas winning in this episode is him crying probably for the whole night.
It is way too optimistic to think that it's only going to be the whole night
alot of people have been forgetting that in season 1 stolas basically establish's the relationship is purely transactional (atleast infront of blitz) and blitz is convinced that pretty much convinced that any trend towards the romantic stuff is just part of that transactional nature
18:24 This is so ironic considering Stolas kind of...never gave Blitz a chance to properly take in what Stolas was saying. I mean, the whole ass day, he was preparing to do what they always did on full moons when suddenly Stolas asks for his book back.
Also real ironic that when Blitz was finally responding to the situation Stolas put him in, Stolas didnt really give Blitz a chance to keep talking. He LITERALLY KICKED BLITZ OUT, which is understandable but geez... 😭😭😭😭
Sure it applies to Blitz, but this episode also highlights Stolas's flaw with not being able to listen to others, being too much in his head.
I think neither side won but ig everyone is entitled to their own opinion 🤷
I feel like that was the confrontation they needed to have so that both Blitzo and Stolas can have a reality check. If they do end up getting their shit together at the end they can reapproach the relationship as equals, but only if they both figure out how to listen to other people
10:26 dude that joke was LAYERED, that shit was good I lost it 😂💀
14:22 and that was the moment we ( as the viewers ) knew ... little danny was about to get FCKED up
You seem to keep misunderstanding blitzo's feelings towards stolas. He really does care for stolas but how he treats him has been affected by how other high class demons have treated him and his own intense levels of self loathing causing him to think stolas truly doesn't love him because he thinks no one could love him.
Yes, this
And it isn't nonchalance, it's panicked avoidance. "Are we okay? Can't really say?" He does notice and care
Everyone lost this episode. Such a heavy miscommunication on both sides, because of their own trauma.
@@evobrand1210Yep, he puts on a facade of not caring to protect himself from spiraling
No, he’s not it’s his opinion😊
Not even talking about Blitzø’s thoughts or feeling or even reacting to his deeply painful like “I can do better” is so disappointing. Like Stolas is my favorite baby boy to ever exist but it’s so clear that Danny is so focused on Stolas that he doesn’t even consider how or why Blitzø would react the way he did. Like Danny is literally BEING Stolas right now by completely ignoring how this would totally blindside someone who has been made to feel less than and like an object their whole life. Like of course he didn’t pick up on Stolas trying to get to know him better. He was constantly reminded how good of a lay he was and was never given the chance to even consider maybe he was more because Stolas blew through this confession without giving blitz even a second to realize he was being genuine. Both were at different stages of this conversation, Blitzø panicking at the beginning while Stolas was already at the conclusion.
Edit: I feel like I have to point out that BOTH Blitzø AND Stolas fucked this up. I’m not taking a side.
Your comment made me CRY because I forgot about his broken "I-I can do better!"
Yup, the "I can do better" breezed past Danny. Like, at that point, Stolas has said that Blitz doesn't need to be with him anymore and here is a stone and Blitz doesn't even want it--this supposed freedom. He wants to continue to be with Stolas. He wants to prove he is worth something. That whole rest of the time he's trying to understand the motivation for Stolas giving him the crystal. It's not until Stolas says that he wants Blitz to stay that Blitz thinks it must be a roleplay. Like, these two have done roleplay, "I need a hero" bullshit in the past. Think LooLoo Land, where Stolas pretends to need Blitz to protect him just so he can flirt with him. Blitz has come over for what he thinks is a night of sex. No warning it was going to be something different.
I mean, not really surprising? Danny's been shouting at Blitz about this since Ozzie's, and the series hasn't exactly been helping with all the emphasis on Stolas and how HIS backstory justifies his perspective while "imps are an underclass" is still very much something that gets told and not shown. At a certain point you're just blaming Danny for having watched the show and focused his energy on the character that's getting development instead of the character that's been an out-of-focus clown for all of Season 2.
@@rebeccaliar9873 I mean it’s kind of incorrect to say season two has been all about Stolas and his backstory. That would completely disregard all the trauma and backstory of blitz and fizz in episode 6 as well as the flash back to Lunas adoption and his trauma response in episode 2. I’m not blaming Danny for watching the show but I am saying that there were important character development and backstory pieces for more than just Stolas in season two.
Especially that he said that after he already got the stone and his business is not at stake anymore. He just said that because he didn't want stolas to abandon him.
12:49 the panic at the disco was so real
"If the show tricks me into liking Cletus, it will be the most impressive feed of writing since the Bible!"
HA, he had a joke reference in a show set in a ring of hell
17:04 Blitzø doesn’t believe someone like Stolas can actually love him cus of his low self-esteem. And the fact that Stolas treated him only like a plaything earlier in the relationship did not help with this fact. Add to the fact that Stolas just took the grimoire with little to no explanation, which immediately stressed Blitzø out, and it gets worse. Blitzø said that he doesn’t like when things get complicated so he just “focus on the sexy stuff instead.” That’s why he thought it was a role play. And plus, Blitzø wasn’t expecting any of this. Stolas didn’t warn him ahead of time so he could prepare, stressed him out by taking the grimoire, and then dumped the info on him. It was a lot to comprehend for Blitzø. He was just sent through a ton of emotions and didn’t know how to handle it. So he lashed out. Yes Blitzø made mistakes but so did Stolas.
Yeah I agree
THANK YOU 😭 please they are both equally right and wrong they just need to communicate at this point
A comment I saw on the og video sums it up perfectly,
Stolas thought he understood but didn’t listen
Blitz heard but misunderstood
I'm at the "Pardon sir, did you call him a bird", and this is the second show react I'm watching from you. The first one being The Owl house.... And now it make me think.. Cause I also LOVE Stolas and Hooty.... Is there a pattern here? Just leaving that here, have a nice day.
Not Danny literally skipping blitz’s side of things in every video
I cannot put into words how much my autism flared up when he mentioned murder drones
Neuron activation
Oh I can tell
SAMEEEEEE
YES YES YES!!!
funny how Danny went from calling Stolas "Gross owl thing" to "precious owl baby"
Wait Owl House AND Murder Drones!?!?!
Welp time to watch Danny on repeat for the next YEAR whenever they come out
Real!
17:18 they’re standing next to the chandelier that they played under as kids.
Stolas is very sweet and miserable, but Blitz is right. Stolas didn't even give him a chance to speak. Stolas didn't go into this expecting to have a conversation with Blitz, he doesn't mention talking even once. And they so desperately need to talk. He went into it deciding that he was going to give Blitz a choice that would determine the fate of their relationship. Blitz goes into this thinking they'll just be getting back to 'normal'. And Stolas, despite the fact that he does care, isn't taking the steps to show it because he doesn't give Blitz a heads up at all, starts off by making him think he's losing everything, before assuming Blitz's answer after the rough blow of Blitz misinterpreting his confession. He walks away from him, shuts down his attempts to talk, and despite saying he thinks so highly of Blitz and how obvious that has been to us as the audience, Stolas has never actually made it clear to Blitz's dumbass that he thought of them as equals.
thank you
Exactly, Blitzø didnt think Stolas genuinely loves him, in his eyes no one would. While Stolas is dropping hints and giving him space and cares about him but blitzø doesn't see it .
this! its always a bummer when people put the whole blame on blitzo when stolas also carries some of the blame for how things have gone. we as the audience can see how much Stolas cares about blitzo but he never actually puts it to words. if you look at their text its easy to see that Stolas doesn't communicate their feelings very well and is super passive about what he actually wants and tells blitzo that its okay that they skip their meetup which blitzo takes at face value because he couldn't even imagine that Stoals could be meaning anything else. everything could be fixed if either party would actually just express what they actually want. while the way things have ended right now are super sad, it was necessary for things to break completely so that they can take REAL steps to fixing things and building a good relationship.
this episode is so sad because obviously we know they both care about each other, but they cant see it because they are expressing it very differently. I think a lot of people forget that Blitzo does care about Stolas. He got anxious about Stolas getting bored of him, and then spent his whole day looking for things he thought Stolas would like. Even if he is only focusing on the sex (because hes got emotional problems XD), he still cares. I feel that Stolas sprung that conversation on Blitzo a bit. They are both just not communicating well and its so sad but this argument/break up needed to happen.
I agree Blitz did in fact need to be knocked back into the reality that his actions of consequences and Stolas needed to stop saving himself for Blitz when he actively does not think of Stolas as an actual partner. Like Stolas fell in love the guy for years, and he wanted to start to have something, and Blitz wanted nothing to do with him just rob him, he only went out with him for the benefits at least that's what he convinced himself.
I don’t know if you noticed this also, but Alex Brightman has a starring credit as of this episode: to say he’s now part of the main cast.
"That'd be kinda ironic.. If the Pope could evolve."
Danny, you astound me
15:15 wait he know Percy Jackson!! Let’s go, I love that
I think it's so funny that this dude has a whole ass beef ready to fight on the spot with a guy he doesn't know and doesn't dislike
A Chloeca is a bird's only rear end hole. They poop they pee and they lay eggs all from the same opening.