Hollow Knight - Speedrunner vs. 4 Hunters ft.
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Welcome to Hollow Knight Speedrunner vs. Hunters version 2.0! I've added several new rules and mods which make the format significantly more exciting, focusing on making it all about hunting and getting kills! This time, we've got Relyea, mossbag, Rusty, and CrankyTemplar as the hunters.
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CREDITS
Schy (editor) / schyshy
Relyea (hunter) / relyeagaming
Rusty (hunter) / rusty_tsf
mossbag (hunter) / mossbaguette
CrankyTemplar (hunter) / crankytemplar
MODDERS
SFGrenade (FireIsSmolBrain)
underlein (SpeedrunMod)
ExtremelyD1 (HKMP)
seresharp, fifty-six, ejmahler (Debug Mod)
homothety, dpinela, flibber-hk, fifty-six, seresharp (Benchwarp)
MUSIC
Christopher Larkin - Hollow Knight OST
Koji Kondo - Super Mario 64 Title Theme
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Игры
![LACE (Silksong) - Violin Cover [String Quartet]](/img/1.gif)
For the other perspectives, see:
Relyea: ruclips.net/video/-hswxI7unJA/видео.html
Rusty: ruclips.net/video/Vm1SiVYNo7M/видео.html
Apologies for the audio balance! It'll be good in other videos, but I was ill while recording this and ended up making that mistake.
Just to clarify the rules changes that are already being worked on based on this:
- Hunters have one less mask
- Hunters don't start with Mantis Claw, but get it when I do
- Hunters don't get Monarch Wings
- The death time penalty doesn't apply in the Black Egg Temple
- Timer might be lowered and have a 5 minute death penalty instead.
- I'll be working on a mod to apply invincibility when on elevators, interacting with NPCs/tolls/etc, entering/exiting rooms, and when you are stunned by screams (think THK's screams)
I felt that with this rule set it encouraged them to kill you and you to manage your time better and not just die repeatedly. Maybe to encourage that(and since you’re gonna lose 10 minutes on a shade skip if you try it) either limit the time loss to only hunter kills or have say maybe a 1-5 minute time increase when you kill them. This encourages the hunters to also strategise and not just sit outside the boss room swinging wildly and encourage the duels which IMO is one of the more entertaining portions of this series
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@@banyamano902 We'll definitely see more of that (duels, chases) in future vids. These hunters are actually quite good at PvP combat, but don't have as much speedrun (route) knowledge, which is why the majority of the fighting was them stacking up at objectives/bosses. Shade skips also don't count toward the timer currently!
@@banyamano902 I appreciate the feedback!
@@banyamano902 Future games, I'll probably switch up my strategies (and nerfing hunter stats) a bit so stacking up around objectives/bosses isn't as effective. They'll probably have to hunt a little bit more, anticipate my next moves, etc.
The hornet fight where everyone is watching and just nodding quickly as they cheer for their sibling was not only adorable but hilarious
The question is, which sibling were they cheering for
@@PaperLaur that’s a good question
The dead one
that fight bit reminded me of the one scene in Princess Bride where Wesley says; "So I'll put down my sword, and you'll put down your rock, and we'll try to kill each other like civilized people?"
@@hallway_revenant7919 never saw that movie
The fact he cuts out freeing the grubs proves fireb0rn is a static character.
He's a *gamer*
@@sealessseadog2735 he's a *god gamer*
@@Omniflorent hes a *great grubbing grueler god gamer*
The grub's opinion is that TAS's NEVER get grubs and they're still praised.
So he's fine
I feel the need to comment on the fact that you went for Great Slash with less than 8 minutes left on the clock, you had no fear this SvH and I was here for it
If he dies in the fight he loses and he can beat the fight in less than 5 mins, so taking the extra time to get great slash is a really good play. All benefits, no downsides
This is off topic but I love your profile pic! God I miss that game that I want to replay it again
OneShot is indeed a great game.
@@fireb0rn can confirm
@@fireb0rn 😀
Every time that mossbag’s name is capitalized, Silksong is delayed by a day
No worries, I think I got to it before Team Cherry could see.
@@fireb0rn Phew, thank Gorb! 🙌
it's still capitalized in the description.... guess silksong's delayed a day
@@abyssalmusician The fandom crumbles without a Silksong update
mossbaG
So much fun!
4:52 that hiding spot was perfect!
lmao I didn't even catch that. that was perfect
@@fireb0rn I’ll get the high ground next time for sure
Oh no oh eh ah he’s here
@Just a very humble and honest human what
@Just a very humble and honest human yes
mossbag just throwing random Hollow Knight facts at Fire as a weapon
Wear him down with knowledge!
He got DESTROYED with FACTS and LOGIC
Best profile pic
@@pclouds when they bump into each other
mossbag: "Hornet isn't void"
Fire: *instantly dies*
@@Brainnndead wouldn’t it be the other way round?
Ngl, there were some fun duels in this one
And some fun mini games like Pin the Fire on the elevator
Agreed
aren't all duels fun? 🙂
New rule: talking to elderbug is mandatory for both speedrunner and hunter
YES
YES
AGREED
GOOD
I sign the petition
You know what I think would be fun? One of these with a cursed item randomizer, every time you pick something up, each hunter also gets something random, not even the same between hunters. It would be funny to see them try to coordinate who would chase you where based on what upgrades they each have
That would be really interesting chaos to watch :D
this sounds great but i have no idea who has the mental strength to create a mod that does this
We will likely do Randomizer PVP in the future, yeah!
Oh you mad lad that idea is genius
Calling it now: Fire is just going to run around looking for claw for 4 hours while being chased by 4 hunters :D
I feel like one adjustment should be that the 10 minutes off doesn’t matter if it’s under 10 minutes left. That way for the last 10 minutes you just have to actually keep him off and not just kill him once. Either way amazing!
That's a cool idea!
Yeah that's a great idea, I was also thinking that the 10 minutes off shouldn't effect him during the hollow knight battle or maybe it get's reduced to only 1 minute off or something. Just from the looks of it, it's probably impossible to avoid getting killed during the hollow knight battle and everything else seemed fairly well balanced otherwise.
Regardless I really like the new rules, and they punish him for being caught out, and give the hunters more opportunities to catch him out. While preventing him from being farmed at major choke points.
Yeah, definitely think either the last 10 mins should be immune or Hollow Knights room should reduce the time removed, as with everyone in there, it's hard to imagine not die at least a few times.
These bughunts are really cool to watch, and I love the new ruleset. Keep it up! :D
Whoa, didn't know you watched fire!! Cool to see you here :)
eyy helo Sad :D
love ur hk art queen
Your hollow knight/silksong animations are my absolute favorite!
Please make a silksong animation when it comes out! Your amazing.
I love how despite everyone else casually swearing Relyea didn’t do it once throughout the entire livestream, his dad energy is through the roof
Well reyela is right below you in the comments!
I don’t get who honestly cares about swearing
Relyea: waiting at the high ground
fireb0rn: nah I am going to get great slash and buy charm (that wasn't used finally) then go in the other way
LMAO
I think Fire shouldn't be penalised 10 minutes for dying in THK fight since hunters are there. Other than that, rules do seem pretty fair.
Yes atleast making it 5mins instead 10 might be better
@@nightmare_symphony that's what i was thinking, 5-7 minutes would be a better penalty
Or maybe fire can get 2 minutes back when he kills a hunter
@@InsertNormalName how about 30 seconds
@@InsertNormalName i don't think hunters should be penalized for dying, he is trying to avoid fights and speedrun after all.
I love how often in these the hunters are going "Ok, the speed runner is going this way. I'm going to chase him." ... "Wait, he's getting away by going super fast."
Speedrunners vs Hunters 2: Electric Boogaloo
SO excited for the return of the series that introduced me to this channel!
same
Remastered edition
same
*Game of the year version*
Ok I'll stop
28:03 I love how he simply jumps over the grub instead of hitting it so that he can dash through xDDD
Pure cruelty
The new ruleset was a very much needed change! Though my favorite parts of these runs will always be hearing what shenanigans the hunters get up to!
A rule you can add is everytime a hunter dies it adds 30 secs or 1 minutes to the timer so that it adds more action to the hunt and gives you a reason to fight back and not just run away from them
Fire is now hunter hunting
Imao
An alternative to remove time loss from dying in the hollow knight fight
Everything about this ruleset feels great to me, I would just maybe lower the time loss from 10 minutes to 5 or 7.5 minutes. It just feels like at the beginning the hunters can box you in due to your limited movement abilities and just eat away at your time at the cost of their lives which means nothing to them.
Next time I'm dropping their health and removing Claw until I get it so the early game should be more even! Thanks for the feedback!
Really liked the intense music in this one. Especially in the Deepnest part XD
Me (who has no sound for personal reasons): le depress
Great video, loved the balance of this rule set. I missed the editor's notes from you this time though. It was always fun seeing what you were thinking about moves you made to outsmart the hunters.
Will definitely bring that back for the next vid! Thanks for the feedback.
Me too, it helps with investment in the run when you know what the current aim is.
@@fireb0rn Yeah since you don't speak much it would be nice to see your thought process.
When you grabbed Great Slash at 8 minutes left, I actually said out loud "No, he wouldn't."
Apparently, I was correct, you would not go for Nailmaster's Glory with that little time left.
Absolutely love hearing the hunters going on about how "he HAS to be going this way!" while Fire's pretty much on the other end of the kingdom
I really liked the new ruleset, I think it definitely improved on some of the problems that showed up in the previous videos! The one I appreciated the most was that people could not attack you during boss arenas. I feel like in the previous videos you got stuck in these arenas for a bit too long, making it not pleasing to watch at certain times. I think the change to this rule was definitely an improvement, it was the reason the final stretch of the video was so epic after all! If they got you stuck at Uumuu, as happened in previous videos, the ending wouldn't have been much fun to watch. I do like that they can enter the THK arena, I think it adds a lot of tension to the ending, but I feel like 4 hunters in that arena might be too much. 3 hunters, as we've seen in other videos can be doable but a maybe a bit too challenging, I personally think having a limit of 2 hunters in the arena at a time would be ideal. Sadly we didn't see much of that fight in this video so it's a bit hard to gauge with this ruleset, but I'm sure you'll get to try it out eventually. Really appreciate the effort put into the video, keep it up!
Thanks for the feedback Waffle!
You guys should do a room randomizer race where you all start with the same seed and race to find the best items first.
Also it's nice to finally see fire saving a grub
We're doing a co-op room randomizer on Tuesday!
what grub bro? you must be seeing things
@@fireb0rn 4 hunters 2.0 WOOOOOOOOOOOO! That's what I subscribed for at first!
@@kozolith2121 He saved a few to get a mask shard from grubfather
@@cornifer5261 but we never SAW him freeing them 😏
hey fire, I was one of the guys that didn't liked previous speedrunner vs hunters video and I think that new rules are better imo
edit: mossbag pog
Yis Mossbag pog
Thanks for the feedback!
Wait would stalwart shell actually be useful in this or no? I feel like that extra invulnerability could be pretty useful here
Absolutely, yeah.
FIRE, MOSSBAG, RUSTY, RELYEA AND CRANKY
MOST OF MY FAVOURITE CREATORS PLAYING TOGETHER, THIS IS AMAZING
I couldn't be more blessed, this collab is such a great early birthday gift.
Thanks to y'all so much!
I think that if you were to make it so the timer doesnt go down when fighting thk it would give the end a bit more of a climax as it is by far the easiest part to die at and would result in a much better end .
"I have _just_ two hours to beat the game-"
"That's thirty minutes more than before, what-"
"And if I die, ten minutes is taken off the clock."
"Oooooooooooooooooooh okay, never mind."
And I used loadless time before, now it's realtime. 😏
I think an interesting rule that would help with the camping might be to not outright BAN hunters from entering boss rooms, but only allowing one hunter at a time
One at a time is actually much better (for them) than all at once anyway, so that wouldn't really help much from my perspective.
I agree some of the best bits to watch were trying to beat a boss before other people noticed and getting away with it. But there were some ridiculously hard fights in previous rulesets. Maybe like uumuu, watchers and beast den get nerfed hunters say only the first hunter to join is ever allowed in the boss room and has a respawn timer?
The wall jumping off platforms is insane bruh 25:52 he’s so precise
the music syncing with the spikes falling from the ceiling and hitting the ground at 0:56 is the best thing ive ever heard
remember when less than a year ago the entire hollow knight community was disconnected and now look at this
before, fireb0rn was at 13k and at one point didn't even have a profile, skurry was some small youtuber doing their thing, relyea basically hadn't heard of fireb0rn when he reacted to his speedrun, and mossbag was on his lonesome as well
and now everyone is doing cross youtube collabs regularly and all having fun together
I really arrived to this community at the perfect time, right during the transition
Skurry uses they/them pronouns!
@@kathryntanworkshop yeah I forgot, that's my bad
Who r u and what did u do with fireborn? The gamer I know would never save grubs
There’s less text talking about Fires plans, which to me makes it a bit less engaging, and it doesn’t give me the sense of anticipation, wondering if he can pull off the plan, or wondering what the Hunters will do to adapt. Instead it feels like I’m watching a speed run with commentary, while people try and stop him. I get that was the concept, but it just was a less engaging experience for me. Still like the new rules
I think he was sort of sick so he was too tired to insert it in. hopefully next time we'll get to see it again!
I completely agree. When fire explains his thought process the video is much more fun to watch. I also think that fire should be allowed to hear the hunters because it makes the strategizing much more interesting.
To me, it´s starting to feel a bit too much "tryhard speedrun", rather than "fun challenge with friends".
It´s still fun, and I understand that the series needs to evolve, buuuut...
Definitely think that communication (and taunting) should be allowed. (Maybe have a separate channel for hunters if they really want to do something in secret...)
(Again, he´s run through the game so many times, I understand that he wants to change things around so it doesn´t get stale/boring.)
Great ruleset. I takes care of the thing that I found less appealing in the first one. The hunters being able to just wait at a boss rooms and take you out during a hard fight (although they can still wait in front of the room but now it's possible to just duke them). Or just warping by exiting. Now it feels like a real hunt. Good job.
28:23 I love how Rusty's voice fades over like he's really moving away XD
Relyea quoting Obi Wan every 2 minutes was my favorite part of this video 😂
20:14 "He went so fast, where'd he go?!" *a hunter gets smacked in the face because fire is too fast*
a real slapstick moment there and I loved it x'D
Literally this part was the most intense moment of SvH 40:52 - 42:45
So glad to see more of these on the channel. Ive rewatched the other manhunt ones so many times!
The only thing i wish was still in, was the Captions of his thought process while playing this. Though I do love the Snake noises when he spots someone, points for editing!
this was really fun to watch :D the communication and banter between the hunters - and the agreement to not camp transitions or bench rooms - made it a genuinely enjoyable game. also, thanks for the closed captions !!
Hard to believe this may be one if the last videos mossbag will be in
32:42 As a spaniard i love how Squirrel repeatedly goes "te quiero te quiero" even if that's not exactly what he is saying xD
I Really enjoyed this video and I think the new rule set is absolutely amazing, it's just personally for me I feel like the Hunters definitely may need a little nerf to make it completely even, as for the Hollow Knight boss fight, The hunters felt immensely broken as the room is so tiny and there's 4 of them, so it's very easy for all of them to mindlessly throw themselves at you, which makes it feel really unfair especially with that giant time loss, oh and a suggestion, I feel like it'd be really interesting if you got some time back every time you killed one of them, as it's already a difficult task and it would make battle actually worth while rather than pointless, it could sprout more possibilities and some really cool clutch moments, it'd also give the Hunters an actual reason to want to stay alive, it lets them treasure their own life which I feel like is a needed change, because as it stands they lose little to nothing from death especially with all 4 of them as when one dies it isn't a big deal as another one can just cover for them, So it'd be cool to actually have them think about picking and choosing their battles and making an interesting strategy to take you down, regardless I loved the video, keep up the great work!
yes
I love how much more in this one you were sneaking around in the early parts!
12:12 Man this is the most polite and wholesome SR vs Hunters ever xD
Freeing the [REDACTED] to get the extra mask shard was super big brain
Very glad to see another Speedrunner Vs Hunters again, been loving the series!
I also just wanna say your speedruns got me to play Hollow knight for the first time so thank you for that! True inspiration
"Smaller mushroom: Waaah" this is the best subtitle i have ever seen
So, so happy to see this back! My adult brain totally understood when you would say that SvH is stressful and must be done in moderation. But my child brain was whining for more, more, more! I (like many others here) got into your channel because of SvH. And the series was the encouragement I needed to finally play Hollow Knight. (Which I obviously now adore.) So it's special to me! Thanks for bringing it back.
Yo Cranky is a menace. He just kept wanting to swing at you at any given moment. Elevator? No mercy. Stag station? No mercy.
absolutely love the new ruleset, it's very clear and much easier to understand. to be very slightly critical though, I think it could be beneficial to mention that projectiles (like the big jellyfish in fog canyon) don't affect other players? it confused me for a good portion of the older manhunts to see the hunters seemingly walking through explosions and the like.
I believe in atleast one of the older hunts they COULD be affected, just not too often, as enemies were enabled for them, now they're not.
elevator shenanigans still exist though.
In both scenarios it's just a matter of one hunter or fireb0rns nail hitting either the jelly or the elevator
This version of the rules much better, but hunters need to go over the rules before rematch cause so many "can i do that?" And "stop doing that, its illegal"
Loving these new rules! Super cool as always to see you snake the hunters with your quick thinking, and the hunters were awesome too :) looking forward to more hunts w this new set
So happy to see another episode of this!! I absolutely love them.
These vids are helping me through the holidays, thanks fire!
Absolutely LOVED this one! The new ruleset, the hunter's commentary, the tricks, the confusions, the crystal dashing, ... everything!
I’m so glad to see these videos again, I love your speedrunner vs videos
These videos are always so much fun to watch, I’d love to see more!
0:46 I love how you timed the Mario Sunshine music to their countdown. Already an amazing start. xD
7:25 And Nosk when you get spotted!
40:50 Deepnest peril!
This was really fun to watch, hopefully you guys keep the wonderful balance flowing appropriately.
"We lost him"
Meanwhile Fire who died to the normal enemies in fungal wastes
The Hollow Knight surronded by a bunch of Knights helping them out is sooooooooo cute!!!
Fantastic competition! I love watching these, they are so exciting. I love the new rules, but I don’t think you should lose time in the HK fight
So excited to see a new hunt! The new ruleset looks great, good balance between hide-and-seek and action, making bosses fair for you while also giving the hunters a bigger reward for taking you out. The one thing I missed from the other videos was your commentary on your own thoughts throughout the match; what you expected the hunters to do, what your strategy was, etc. I hope hammering out the new ruleset means we'll start getting more hunt videos going forward!
these have improved in quality so much. was at the edge of my seat at the end
Really glad you’ve made another one of these I love these things great work man!!
This just happened to show up in my feed and i enjoyed every last bit of it
I know you probably won’t see this, but something I’d like to see is a speed running challenge where you try to beat the game faster than 4 people working together to beat the game. I’ve seen it done with Super Mario 64 where 20 people could get stars and still somehow lost to a single speed runner. It was a great demonstration to how much talent speed running can take and I definitely think you’re capable of that!
I would love that as well if its possible with mods!! 🤩
Easily the best Hunter Vs. Speedrunner video you’ve done. Great!
These are my favorite thing to watch, been rewatching all of them😅
28:00 IT COSTED NOTHING TO SAVE THAT GRUB ! ... good job
Man, that audio editing is beautiful, and I love the new rules! This is a good time
YESSSSS FINALLY, and great idea for the 10 min time loss every death that changes the game in a very entertaining way loved the vid x
I was today years old when I found out grubs make a sad noise when you walk past them
thank you for subtitling the mushroom wahs that greatly improved the viewing experience
So happy this series is back. Nice video guys!
My god, how thrilling this video was! Thank you, this round was amazing
BRO i was just watching all these last night nice to see a new one!
i love how you perfectly cut it at the end haha
i like how he had to block the footage of him saving a grub
The new ruleset is definitely interesting! one thing I did miss int he video itself though was your text that explains your next plans for getting past the hunters, but that's a small thing and the most important thing si that you had fun with the new rules!
I feel i must comment on the beginning, when the mario music plays the falling spikes seem to sync with the music for a bit, it's perfection.
The ruleset changes felt really good, hope to see more!
YES WOOOOH MORE HUNTER CONTENT, I love all your content so thank you fire
You have no idea how hyped I am to see this coming back. With Rusty and mossbag of all people
I love these videos so much!! I was so happy to see a new one!
i like these new rules!! also makes SO much more sense for you not to hear the hunters. i love this series, thanks for putting in the work and tweaking it over time!
It would be really fun if in the future we could hear bits of your planning as well! Love the video!
YESSSS! I’ve been waiting for this to return!
Yes, I'm excited for this video rn
Edit: GG wp to everyone. Really entertaining, I hope there will be a lot more of those videos!
I really enjoy this series also, see there have been some improvements to the multiplayer mod.
Nice
Absolutely love the speedrun vs hunter series.
This is awesome. Incredible to see the level of precision on Fireborn’s side. You make it look so easy, but it is incredibly difficult. Whoever though of this, organized, and created a mod for this to happen is above us mere mortals. I hope they add a mod - I would definitely play with a friend.
_* IDEA FOR ANOTHER VIDEO?_* The only suggestion I would have to offer is that the hunters should have to earn their own abilities, be able to upgrade their nail, and get their own charms. Another idea would be a race to complete the game first while having to deal with other players and death adding to time. Maybe add to the challenge with having to collect certain things or have a certain amount of geo/ a certain boss, or other abilities, items, ect…
ooooo I'm so excited, this ruleset looks to make an amazing video!!!! Missed these
I missed this! I was just thinking how you guys should do another one! How funny that you guys and this video inspired Quinboblin to starting playing HK again!