Don't sell yourself short, man. Some of us engineers recognize when there's people that just simply know more than we do about their chosen field of expertise. I've designed freeze dryers. That doesn't make me an expert in LS engine tuning. So, before I go wasting money blowing something up from sheer arrogance I come and watch vids from guys like you.
@@TheDrivewayEngineer As much as I like the stock GM stuff the Holley line is hard to argue with... Considering feature set and ease of use vs cost compared to the stock GM stuff..... Kinda looks like Holley just makes sense.
With the "Tuner" programs out there, I prefer to stick with a "Matched Set" of components. As The DriveWay Engineering points out, having a matched TAC, DBW pedal and ECM is one of the best routes to go. GM spend millions of dollars for engineering a solid product that is capable of under-hood heat and vibration. If placed inside in your swap is even better. Too many post on vehicle forums have guys who got into many issue with mix and match and having to stat over. The OEM parts are everywhere, from the bone yard to RockAuto. If you are new to this level of working on vehicles, do your research, make a plan, think ahead on what you want. Learn how to solder, shrink tube your splices, properly remove terminals and install. Draw out the wiring diagram to figure out placement of modules for ease of access. Determine the length of harness and follow proper fuse protection, including the use of relays. Make it clear to your tuner, like JR, for donor vehicle, VIN, tranny, gear ratio, tires size, cooling fans, cruise control of no cruise. All of these things will reduce you headaches and create an enjoyable experience with the satisfaction of doing it your self. As a retired ASE Master, I have seen too many people do what they thought was right and pop fuses, open circuits and have no digital volt, ohms meter, nor who to do voltage drop. JR is providing a basic service in his explanation of what is out there and how bad it will hurt you wallet. Plus knowing what works, begins with research, as in his video. Plan it out, get a 3 ring note book and plastic page protectors and draw out you ideas. Create a wiring diagram and notes + photos of the modules & parts being used for future reference. It is creating your own service manual for the "One-Off" that you are building. A blind hog finds the corn once & awhile, but don't be that guy. It take the fun out of it! Nice information The Driveway Engineer. Good job from an ASE Master Tech (Imports / GM)
Thanks so much! Man, I could go into so much more detail, but trying to strike a balance between getting the important stuff out there and keeping it short you know? Since I'm gearing the videos towards beginners and people who are unsure and overwhelmed, that's the reason I just say get everything and use it as is. As you've seen and pointed out, trying to mix and match is likely to cause some problems and cost some money.
@@TheDrivewayEngineer As an instructor for ACDelco for 7+ years, I held 30 different tech seminars for 4 hrs. for up to 100 techs, like "Advanced Charging Systems", but also held 2 day "Stand-up" classes at 13 tech colleges. Out of the 28 classes, 6 of them where focused on electrical. With EL-2, my focus was to make a service tech become comfortable with a DMM, how to use it, and voltage drop. We had bench-top table modules allowed us to build a series circuit complete from scratch. It was amazing how many techs, who worked on vehicles everyday, could not build a circuit without popping the fuse when turned on. They maybe very good at fixing an existing circuit in any given vehicle, but from scratch...Well I kept a bucket of fuses handy. Lap Scope was another thing. I told them they had lap scopes in their shops for years...it was the "Sun" engine analyzer that had a primary (Low voltage) input and the high voltage used for the ignition systems secondary. Using it or with an amp clamp, you could "See" the activity in the circuit, like a defective DC motor. Very scary, but some techs learned a lot. If I got to one, two or more...I had a good class. Learning is good!
All ls swaps run far better with a carb with electronic meter blocks. Install a wide band o2 sensor and your done. You can adjust in car while driving. Install a distributor( need a front mount timing cover and ford distributor.and your done. This set up is for intelligent people not idiots! This set up always beats computer set up on dymo due to rule cooling intake. If you can understand this stop reading! Your brain is a much better computer and cost nothing. Convert4l80e to manual drive and your done. Better is a 400 turbo with a gear vendors overdrive so you can split gears. If a large cooler is used and trans is machined for extra clutches(red altos and modified kolene steels) it will last forever no matter how it is abused! We have this setup in 3500hd with 800,00 miles so far. The LS is all after market with dart 6 bolt headsc4.130 b0re and 4.125 stroke. Extensively modified cathedral heads( not stock) with big valves and reshaped chambers. Custom ground cam and almost 12 to 1 compression. It runs on 87 octane and gets22 miles to gallon without 12,000 lb trailer. We run 3.42 gears and cruise is 1300 RPM at 80mph. Beats most diesels with far less matinence. We build about 40 of these a year in New chevy chassis (all4x4s) and factory motor and trans pays for new power train (almost). The dash is ripped out and manual gauges are installed( computer gauges are terribly in accurate and add wide band o2 sensor and vacumn gauge an fuel pressure gauge as well as other gauges. The 14 bolt free floater has real detroit locker and front diff has an e locker. We get 40,000 for conversion and you have a bullet proof truck with just routine maintenance. We build 75 gallon gas tanks, and usually dry sump oil systems and custom cast iron exhaust manifolds into a 5 in single pipe.. Suspension is mildly modified and .375 plate bumpers the front and rear 18,000 lb whinches are used. All computers are gone and anyone can fix it. This is how a real truck should be built, not the trash coming out of detroit!!! Relative to the climate the truck is shipped to many other mods are made. You can do the engine and trans combo many different ways but leave computers out!! They don't belong in real trucks!!
Don't forget to remove the ECM connector and look for burnt pins before taking it home! I forgot and now get to exchange an ECM which is no big deal where I salvage but might be for some folks. When I get just an ECM I cut off the harness connectors for more parts and because I give my bros bench harnesses. Left in place they protect the ECM pins in storage.
I have an 70 impala that I want to complete a swap in but have had tons of questions. I found your channel today and have watched three videos and hit that sub and bell button. These videos are EXACTLY what I needed as I’m a family man with a passion and a budget!!!! Thank you, please keep making videos please !
Man these vids are great appreciate it. I have a LQ9 complete, running (low oil pressure) in 2003 1 ton van with 400K miles. I plan on purchasing LQ9 long block (with 100K), and putting all my accessories, intake, wiring,starter,etc. etc on and transplanting into my 83 Camaro. Thanks again.
@@MississippiDan1 Greatly appreciate the "confirmation" after a lot of reading and computer time, I have come to the conclusion that may very well be the case. As an update to my original post, I am now going to pull the running eng. from my van and pull front cover / oil pan and inspect O ring as well as oil pump assm. I always ran Amsoil, only highway miles, and Fingers Crossed I will be back in business.
Thanks for all the info it helps me a lot I have never done a large swap.but I am gonna put a ls in my 94 short bed Chevy, thanks again for the info and I will be watching you. And listening to you, have a great day
Malcom Johnson I’m wishing I would have done an LS swap on my 94 Z71 3.5 years ago instead of dropping stupid money in a traditional rebuilt SBC. So take it from me, you’re gonna be much happier in the with an LS swap. My rebuilt engine is putting out 350-360 horsepower and 370-380 torque. I have about $5,000 in it throttle body to oil pan, and it’s still not 100% right.
I am all new to this LS stuff. Im putting together a 408 lq4 with a muncie 4spd. In my 66 nova. Should be potent. Im learning along the way. I think the Holley efi might be my choice since I will eventually using twin turbo setup. Love this tech stuff. Thanks.
Looking for info on putting an LS in my T-bucket for Goodguys autocross, this has been a good resource. From what I'm finding out any healthy 5.3 will be more than enough to spin the tires through first gear, anywhere in first gear up to torque peak. Talking 1800 pound car with 9 inch 200 treadwear tires. So this series has been a major time and money saver for me.
Glad to see you got the pups involved. My debate is my truck is a,99 Silverado and I have been having issues with the instrument cluster and minor ground issues. It has all the bells and whistles like heated seats, mirrors, power everything and then some. Wanted to rebuild my transmission to handle 400-500 at most. Want to drive everyday and be able to get on it and have a little weekend fun with it after I am done. Your thoughts are welcome and thank you for your advice and time
the Holly Computer setup has alot of positives. Yeah it's a bit pricey but you can control shift points, RPMs fuel maps, timing, run your water pump, fans etc.... apples to oranges I guess
Subbed and smacked the like. I wish I still lived in Michigan.. grew up in Pellston, Petoskey, Alpena, Cheboygan, now stuck on the yuck.. Columbus, Ohio
Great work brother! Just a heads up I watch a lot longer than 10 mins! 😂 thanks for all your time and information helping me plan my next build out much better!
I've seen some custom tuned by a good tuner with stock electronics that make a very big difference in horsepower and torque throughout the entire rpm range and make a noticeable difference that can be felt in the seat of your pant and l have a MSD LS in a carbureted LS since 2008 it has been trouble free and works extremely well
I recently bought the efisource micro, harness, coil igniter, and stepper adaptor. Having a video on how to manually shift the 80e would be sweet. The classic car needs overdrive. I’m enjoying this basics series and all the low buck options presented.
I have a 4L80 on my bench, as soon as I get my bench set up for my transmission fixture I'll be tearing into it. I can definitely cover the manual shift option during that.
The Driveway Engineer Will be much appreciated. I did find this but it’s still $215. Not sure exactly what it does. rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F263590075694
That just has the solenoids shorted out for you so that you can manually shift up and down, full line pressure all the time. It's the same thing as what I'm talking about, already done for you.
@Andy Elwood Do what I started doing after 39 years of marriage ...Listen to every third word and nod your head. It’s much shorter. The difference is, you can comeback and watch his video over to catch the information you need three weeks from now.
Fantastic video! Super, super helpful and practical advice. Have done Fi-Tech on SBC, Moates QH on a 408W, but clueless on LS options and tradeoffs (theoretically good features vs. simple, good enough and get it driving)
Man you are the guy! I’m new to LS and we are about to LS swap my sons 1984 notch mustang ! My buddy told me to check out and subscribe to your channel for Loads of great LS content and he wasn’t kidding! This video is especially cool because we will be running a basic stock cammed 5.3 street strip car and only looking for some mid to low 12s. Thanks for the awesome info!
First off I really appreciate you and the information you provided.. I have a question about the transmission.. I have a 94 yukon two 4x4 that has a 4l60e that's been built to handle 500hp i want to swap with a 5.3 i wanted to know what I need to do to get them to work together I hear so many different ways and they are no good for a swap
If you're looking for just a PCM, V6 truck blue/green plug PCM's have IAC & AC drivers. Full size vans with stabilitrak can have PCM's without the IAC & AC drivers. I believe all 8.1l's also have the drivers.
The choke doesn’t make a vehicle idle the choke is the equivalent of cold start enrichment on efi. The idle set screws and throttle screw maintain idle air fuel and speed with a carb.
I'm building a airboat and I'm going to be running a 6.0 out of a 2005 Escalade with a small cam I'm on a tight budget but I'm very able with mechanical and wiring .what would you suggest would be the best option for my motor considering I have the whole Escalade . my wife retired it when she got her new car so its complete and everything works in it so it can donate anything I would need
What do you need for a transmission? Probably not anything factory right? And then I'd assume it's never going to run in freezing temps either. So with all that, I'd probably throw a Microsquirt in it and be done, sell everything else from the donor but the engine.
@@TheDrivewayEngineer there's just a mechanical geardrive and prop. it's gonna be in Florida in hot and moderate cold weather it will need o2 sensors but nothing as far as transmission the engine load will increase as the rpm increases
hello how are you plz i have hummer h3 2006 v5 3.5 l with E40 ECM if i find v8 gn4 with E67 Ecm and harness i can put it on my h3 and work properly all gauges and ABS and traction control? and transmission sure i wanna make changes in the 4l60 to v8 ...
I wanted to go the MS route due to the fun for soldering the PCB and lots of tinkering, but holly shit batman Im not paying $500 to shift a transmission. I do like the IAC for ease of cruse control and the controller for the 4l80 is built right in but HP Tuners and the damn kit is $500 and credits to flash another "holly shit batman". 5.3 with a torquey cam, headers , trailblazer ss intake, mod the temp when fans kick on, change the rpm with trans shift? and retro fit cluster gauges into a 80's B body sedan or just plug a tablet into the obd2 port and call it a day.
O.E or a Quickfuel carb!! Heard horror stories from aftermarket fi. I went wth a Qf carb I have not had any issues, its good on gas I spent $500 on it, its my daily driver.
I had a Quickfuel carb on my truck before I swapped an LS in, it was a fine carb. The issue is, 500 carb,+500 intake and driver for coils, and you've far surpased the cost of a harness and tune, and now you don't have trans control either.
So I've been watching your channel for a while now. I live in Northern Illinois area. Just curious as if I could use an 01 Buick PCM as they look similar to the LS and rewriting it for possibly 5/3 or 6.0 I asked this cuz these PCMS are a lot cleaner looking and are not eaten away buy corrosion
great informative video .. i have gen 3 6.0 out van harness was cut ecm was gone.. looking to do cam swap ... after watchn video taught me sum things .. wanted to get Painless wiring harness built..can i buy ecm to run it..thanks in advance
Hey i thank you for the information this is the second video of yours i have seen. Im in the middle of debating, swapping my 1997 cheyenne to a 5.7 or a 5.3ls from a sierra ive got 4 5.3 blocks i was wondering what all i would need to swap a 5.3 to my 97 i was goin to go with a gen 3 since my sierra is a drive by cable as well as my cheyenne is im just wanting it to drive and function with no headaches later down the road im sorry its a lengthy question. Any information would be useful as this would be my first engine swap of this caliber. I have done alot of reading and reaserching for information would just like a simplistic answer since my budget is not real large and would be over time to do. Thank you in advance, and any information would be useful since im doing all this myself.
ok thanks ill use the stock one now to figer what i need for tuning it as i build ? hp tuners or what would u recomend and ill be pickin up a 02 cencer and gauge
Hey I have a 99 1500 Silverado with 4.3l drive by cable. I want to do either 5.3l or 6.0 havent found what I want yet. My concern can I make my 4.3l ecm do this. An can I still use my 4l60e or do I need an adapter plate? I know that doesn't pertain to this just curiosu
You still have the red/blue P01 PCM, running a 5.3 is just a matter of programming it correctly. I'm not super sure what parts of the harness will be different, but probably not much. The coil packs come to mind though, and injectors. As far as the transmission, it will bolt up with 4 or 5 bolts, the pattern is different, but some still match, you'll need a spacer just like the one they use to put a TH350 behind an LS. Or you can just swap in a LS 4L60E and it'll fit and work fine.
@@TheDrivewayEngineer alright awesome thank you so much your videos have been big help. Ive already ordered hp tuner just to mess with on the 4.3 before I go to the v8 keep these videos going doing great. Guess one more question maybe you can add it to your series but how to pick which generation of "ls" pros cons or benefits be great
If you watch any HP Tuners vids, like mine for instance, my 8.1 reads as a 4.3 V6 lol, because that's the base model that uses the PCM, everything else is an option. I will keep that in mind, maybe I'll do a vid on the differences between the Gen III IV and V stuff, thanks for watching!
@@TheDrivewayEngineer oh really Haha I was wondering why it said that in your video and ya that'd be excellent I know it would help me allot with my motor choice an im sure others
@@TheDrivewayEngineer I picked up a LM4 from a '03 Envoy XL complete with harness and fuse box. However, the pedal and pigtail where missing. I did pick up a drive by wire pedal, harness and module from a '05 avalanche. Will they it work with my envoy harness and pcm?
I got a gen 3 5.3 from a wrecking yard and they cut the harness and it didn't come with a ECU. I'm going to use a th400 so is microsquirt the move? It's going in a street/strip '53 Studebaker. Just looking to go mid 9s. They keep raising the price of terminator x
Hey man I bought a wreaked truck and used everything followed you and done it all myself only thing is the guy I sent it to tune it he told me it wasn’t any good as it was locked somehow and he couldn’t unlock it
With stock ECM there is different fuel mapping for manual transmission vs automatic. Does the Microsquirt just find a happy medium and they work well with either? Project is a '79 C-10 with an SM-465.
so i got this 2003 truck 5.3 LS with no manifold, starter or ecu or alternator or sparkplug wires. . it had 160,000 on and he wanted 300 but i only gave him 200 until he comes up with some or all of those parts especially ecu SO MY QUESTION IS; can i use say a 2006 5.3 LS ecu with my 2003 engine? he says it has "vats deleted 60 pound injectors mild boost start up tune." will this TUNE be worthless to me w/0 bigger injectors? how much should i pay for just any old compatible ecu that i still need a tune for?
Hi have a ? I mis match the cus i bought just the block and trans by its self the rest i had to buy it separate. But having a problem it starts and idles when i press on the gas it chokes
Hey looking for help I have a OBS 94 manual transmission drive by cable and I’m swapping the engine for a 2005 Escalade 5.3 vortex which ECM would you recommend ? Thank you
Does the 4.8 and 5.3 both run 411 ecm? Before we get into wire vs cable, just trying to simply what I’m looking for at this moment. I have the whole swap except the ecm so I’m trying to educate myself on which unit to get. The motor, trans, harness, and accessories came with a truck I bought but it was missing the ecm.
@@TheDrivewayEngineer I was thinking so but I wanted a little confirmation. I stumbled upon your channel last night and subbed after watched half a doz videos. Great information your putting out for the public. 😎
What is involved with using a 0411 PCM from an 01 5.3L Silverado to run my 2000 5.7 LS1? What has to be changed in order to get it running besides VATS and stuff like that?
Can you make a video on how to pick out parts for an engine. One that Indcludes stuff like compression ratio, how it’s affected by what factors, stroke, displacement, and just every little detail.
I know this is an old video, but I’m going to swap a 5.3 and 4l60 from a 02 suburban into my 97 tj. It’s a complete donor and it’s dbc. Should I and can I convert this ecu/harness to run dbw? Also mild cam exhaust and shift kit can be tuned with these ecm as well? Thank you
It's a minimum of 1300 for the X Max with trans control though. You do get a wideband, but for most guys who just want to build a driver/weekend warrior, it's just too much.
I hate to be this guy but....I have a basic 1981 Toyota pickup I'm swapping. I got excited and bought a 2005 5.3 takeout truck motor got the full harness & ecm but being a noob didn't get the pedal, it's a DBW. Currently setting up for ar5 trans, elgin 1840p cam, 1218 springs, 80lb injectors and headers for now (later possibly add turbo). Wanting a basic local beater the with boost would be happy with 500 tire so I'm pretty well lost with the tuning/wiring stuff, would I be better off going with the microsquirt with the harness you mentioned for 400 or sending off the stock computer and harness??
@@TheDrivewayEngineer Thank you for the reply! Then you can buy an aftermarket pedal and use that right? And you wont have to buy different software (like hptuners) for a laptop to do any tuning right?
You'll have to use cable throttle with Microsquirt, just grab a cable TB from the boneyard. You can use Tunerstudio with the Micro for free, it's freeware.
I have an LQ4 im rebuilding for my 2000 trans am, the car already had an LS1 in it, but the previous owner beat it until it died and i figured for 250 bucks at u-pull it'd be cheaper to put an LQ4 in it. Where im confused is with weather or not i can just use the same LS1 ECU and flash an LQ4 tune onto it. Anything else i might get blindsided by with that swap? its a 2004 LQ4 with 317 heads and the car it's going in is a manual t56 stock.
I have a project car running the dreaded OBD1.5 (okay, it's mostly OBD1). I sometimes wonder if I could use a modern stock ECU as an upgrade. BTW, I mumble pinouts on the old system in my sleep, and know every wire well.
@@TheDrivewayEngineer 12200411? And then I'd have OBDII? I've got a top end from a 2006 3500 V6 (Malibu, G6) that will bolt to this block, might be a good overall move
I know that this is more of a ecm video but what is your opinion on the transgo hd3 for the 4l80 it uses manifold vaccum to manage line pressure and still have full manual control
Can you tell me a little bit about swapping to different throttle bodies ? i ordered 2 different harness but none of the connectors are the same as my 2002 throttle body and tps
@@TheDrivewayEngineer but the dbw throttle bodies are different. Mine is 02 and it changes in 03 I believe. I'm curious if it would work if I just got a 03+ and plugged it in. I'm assuming it uses a different pedal box too
Hi appreciate your videos & help i have a 2001 corvette ls6 red and blue connectors but its dbw is this right? It supposedly came out of the same car but dude said it was an ls1 but i checked numbers and its a ls6 block with 241 heads do you know what type of pcm i have the sticker numbers are weathered off dude did say it had a stuck shift trans do please any info is appreciated
I used ur suggestion and used a micro squirt do you have a link on a wiring diagram I'm the guy with the airboat with a lq9 2005 Escalade motor plz help me
I have a 2010 gen 4 LY6 dbw its $200 to tune and flash my pcm plus $600 for the harness and that not including shipping. So in my case do it make sense to go with the Holley? Since I'm spending the same amount of money.
I was thinking of using the stand-alone harness from PSI What do you think of them? Running a stock 6.0 with 4L80E from 2004 2500 van. Plan on leaving stock. Putting in 57 Chev truck
PSI has good customer service and people who use them like them. I believe they are importing from China and they don't have much flexibility when I see people ask them for custom stuff, it's basically a one size fits all kind of harness. I personally like reworked stock harnesses, you can get them from people like Andy Bryant at LSX Specialties, John Kawaski at Johns Custom wiring, and Jason Richard on Facebook. They'll make them anyway you want, longer to hide the ecu in the cab, flip from side to side, whatever. Usually at a lower price than an all new harness from BP Automotive.
I have a 2008 gmc sierra 1500 4x4, I'm putting 373s in gears, a gen3 lq9 bored .20 over in my truck, can I use my normal ECU just will need a tune or do I need a different ECU and wiring harness?
I'm doing a LS swap into a boat. I think the stock ecu drive by wire is the right way to go. I'm not looking for anything crazy but the operating temps might be significantly cooler. Is that something I can play with enough on. A stock ecu?
@@TheDrivewayEngineer well that none sense has gone 10.97 at a 123mph on the motor in a 3380 pound 1984 Monte Carlo SS with me in it my 383 smallblock with a solid cam only went 11.80 with the same setup it was done in 2008 it pulls like a freight train to 7200rpm and still runs as good or better than when first installed 11 years ago with nothing more than gas and regular maintenance without the headache of installing a gas pedal to make it work
@@TheDrivewayEngineer the car has made 12 passes on two separate days ran 11.0 to 11.6 but the last pass was 10.97 guy at ticket booth told me don't bring the car back until it has a cage that was 2012 the car went 120mph or better except one pass the 11.6 it went 117mph the car has embarrassed a 2016 Z06 2018 Hellcat many modded Mustang 5.0s and 2017 modded LT1 camaro to name a few on the street all are fuel injection so far it's been beat by a 1987 mustang with a 5.3 LS with a 200 hit of nitrous and a 1967 nova powered by a modded 427 LS all were carberated
@@TheDrivewayEngineer this thing did it with power steering and brakes a vigilante 3000rpm lockup torque converter 700r4 trans and a buick GN 8.5 rearend with 4.10 gears stock limited slip
Weird question, do you think it's a halfway decent idea to reflash my 00 suburban's ECM to a 06 software for the horsepower and torque gains? And yes I do know it's only about a 20ish difference. Thanks for the input.
@@TheDrivewayEngineer so I guess it is a cam swap, could you recommend a decent cam for it, upgraded trans, but not the converter, and I'd probably change out the valve springs since I'm already there. Thanks again for the knowledge
I do not have a DOD video, as I do not have any Gen IV engines in the fleet. Cost and simplicity are the reasons for that. DOD can be taken care of with a cam and lifter swap, but the higher cost of the engines, along with all the extra DOD crap is why I avoid them A Gen III 5.3 is 500 or less loaded into your truck, Gen IV stuff is so expensive you may as well skip to Gen V. And once you add a cam and headers, the difference is negligible.
Painless has a harness set that runs everything An your trans you use your old pcm have to get it flashed. Part number 60221, what u think about them. $727
@@TheDrivewayEngineer yeah but I have no clue what to pull out of the old wiring harness that I don’t need. You know like do I need to use that 10” x8” fuse box lol.First time I’ve ever fooled with doing this kinda of confusing, but I do have the whole truck that I’m pulling the motor out of. It use seem like the painless wiring harness was simpler. But it’s pricey
@@brianhaw9398 I ended up using none of the wiring harness, an bought a wiring harness an computer already programmed for my truck set up from psi, plug an run
Whatever one is in your budget and is complete. Just get everything together, don't worry about a bunch of casting numbers and crap. Guy's run 7's on 4.8's with untouched heads.
What's your opinion on lsdroid? Also for 862's am I wasting money if I get them hand ported and milled to get 11.1-11:5.1 compression? Is it gonna net me alot more power? Or am I going into 93 octane only territory just for a very small margin of increase in power?
LS Droid is great to get a straight swap running, I have videos on it. When you need tuning, not so great because there's no way to datalog. You can take best guesses, but it's not nearly as safe or easy as HP Tuners. Then when you get to the dyno, they can't tune it lol
Anytime, forgot about the heads. The 706/862 are only worth it at all if you're paying like 50 bucks or less for them, I definitely wouldn't do a buck of extra stuff to them
Hey I’m wanting to wire my ls up to start on my engine stand. I know it’s all the pink Wires and a few other wires. By chance could you either explain to me in a reply or do a short video I want wires to do? Because all the other videos I watch these people don’t explain it correctly and white wires to actually hook up. Thanks man
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Stopped it at 1:58. "Stock is good enough." Sold. Thanks. Saved me $
That's the Cliffs notes lol
@@TheDrivewayEngineer hey drivway can you help me with this I am looking for a Corvette c6 wiring harness
No idea, eBay?
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Don't sell yourself short, man.
Some of us engineers recognize when there's people that just simply know more than we do about their chosen field of expertise.
I've designed freeze dryers. That doesn't make me an expert in LS engine tuning.
So, before I go wasting money blowing something up from sheer arrogance I come and watch vids from guys like you.
Blowing people's minds as usual.
Always impressed.
Keep going! We need your videos!
You keep watching and I'll keep shooting. It seems I'll need to add the new Terminator X to the mix shortly.
@@TheDrivewayEngineer As much as I like the stock GM stuff the Holley line is hard to argue with... Considering feature set and ease of use vs cost compared to the stock GM stuff..... Kinda looks like Holley just makes sense.
Although I still have many questions, you have clarified so much for me and made this swap seem much more possible!
With the "Tuner" programs out there, I prefer to stick with a "Matched Set" of components. As The DriveWay Engineering points out, having a matched TAC, DBW pedal and ECM is one of the best routes to go. GM spend millions of dollars for engineering a solid product that is capable of under-hood heat and vibration. If placed inside in your swap is even better. Too many post on vehicle forums have guys who got into many issue with mix and match and having to stat over. The OEM parts are everywhere, from the bone yard to RockAuto. If you are new to this level of working on vehicles, do your research, make a plan, think ahead on what you want. Learn how to solder, shrink tube your splices, properly remove terminals and install. Draw out the wiring diagram to figure out placement of modules for ease of access. Determine the length of harness and follow proper fuse protection, including the use of relays. Make it clear to your tuner, like JR, for donor vehicle, VIN, tranny, gear ratio, tires size, cooling fans, cruise control of no cruise. All of these things will reduce you headaches and create an enjoyable experience with the satisfaction of doing it your self. As a retired ASE Master, I have seen too many people do what they thought was right and pop fuses, open circuits and have no digital volt, ohms meter, nor who to do voltage drop. JR is providing a basic service in his explanation of what is out there and how bad it will hurt you wallet. Plus knowing what works, begins with research, as in his video. Plan it out, get a 3 ring note book and plastic page protectors and draw out you ideas. Create a wiring diagram and notes + photos of the modules & parts being used for future reference. It is creating your own service manual for the "One-Off" that you are building. A blind hog finds the corn once & awhile, but don't be that guy. It take the fun out of it!
Nice information The Driveway Engineer. Good job from an ASE Master Tech (Imports / GM)
Thanks so much!
Man, I could go into so much more detail, but trying to strike a balance between getting the important stuff out there and keeping it short you know?
Since I'm gearing the videos towards beginners and people who are unsure and overwhelmed, that's the reason I just say get everything and use it as is. As you've seen and pointed out, trying to mix and match is likely to cause some problems and cost some money.
@@TheDrivewayEngineer As an instructor for ACDelco for 7+ years, I held 30 different tech seminars for 4 hrs. for up to 100 techs, like "Advanced Charging Systems", but also held 2 day "Stand-up" classes at 13 tech colleges. Out of the 28 classes, 6 of them where focused on electrical. With EL-2, my focus was to make a service tech become comfortable with a DMM, how to use it, and voltage drop. We had bench-top table modules allowed us to build a series circuit complete from scratch. It was amazing how many techs, who worked on vehicles everyday, could not build a circuit without popping the fuse when turned on. They maybe very good at fixing an existing circuit in any given vehicle, but from scratch...Well I kept a bucket of fuses handy. Lap Scope was another thing. I told them they had lap scopes in their shops for years...it was the "Sun" engine analyzer that had a primary (Low voltage) input and the high voltage used for the ignition systems secondary. Using it or with an amp clamp, you could "See" the activity in the circuit, like a defective DC motor. Very scary, but some techs learned a lot. If I got to one, two or more...I had a good class. Learning is good!
All ls swaps run far better with a carb with electronic meter blocks. Install a wide band o2 sensor and your done. You can adjust in car while driving.
Install a distributor( need a front mount timing cover and ford distributor.and your done. This set up is for intelligent people not idiots! This set up always beats computer set up on dymo due to rule cooling intake. If you can understand this stop reading! Your brain is a much better computer and cost nothing.
Convert4l80e to manual drive and your done. Better is a 400 turbo with a gear vendors overdrive so you can split gears. If a large cooler is used and trans is machined for extra clutches(red altos and modified kolene steels) it will last forever no matter how it is abused! We have this setup in 3500hd with 800,00 miles so far. The LS is all after market with dart 6 bolt headsc4.130 b0re and 4.125 stroke. Extensively modified cathedral heads( not stock) with big valves and reshaped chambers. Custom ground cam and almost 12 to 1 compression. It runs on 87 octane and gets22 miles to gallon without 12,000 lb trailer. We run 3.42 gears and cruise is 1300 RPM at 80mph. Beats most diesels with far less matinence.
We build about 40 of these a year in New chevy chassis (all4x4s) and factory motor and trans pays for new power train (almost). The dash is ripped out and manual gauges are installed( computer gauges are terribly in accurate and add wide band o2 sensor and vacumn gauge an fuel pressure gauge as well as other gauges. The 14 bolt free floater has real detroit locker and front diff has an e locker. We get 40,000 for conversion and you have a bullet proof truck with just routine maintenance. We build 75 gallon gas tanks, and usually dry sump oil systems and custom cast iron exhaust manifolds into a 5 in single pipe..
Suspension is mildly modified and .375 plate bumpers the front and rear 18,000 lb whinches are used. All computers are gone and anyone can fix it. This is how a real truck should be built, not the trash coming out of detroit!!!
Relative to the climate the truck is shipped to many other mods are made.
You can do the engine and trans combo many different ways but leave computers out!! They don't belong in real trucks!!
I see why you charge 40k 😂
Make everything the most complicated version of itself possible then double the price 😂
@@docm4118 please let us know how we can find your company if we'd like this done?
Don't forget to remove the ECM connector and look for burnt pins before taking it home! I forgot and now get to exchange an ECM which is no big deal where I salvage but might be for some folks. When I get just an ECM I cut off the harness connectors for more parts and because I give my bros bench harnesses. Left in place they protect the ECM pins in storage.
I have an 70 impala that I want to complete a swap in but have had tons of questions. I found your channel today and have watched three videos and hit that sub and bell button. These videos are EXACTLY what I needed as I’m a family man with a passion and a budget!!!! Thank you, please keep making videos please !
Thank you for watching!
Man these vids are great appreciate it. I have a LQ9 complete, running (low oil pressure) in 2003 1 ton van with 400K miles. I plan on purchasing LQ9 long block (with 100K), and putting all my accessories, intake, wiring,starter,etc. etc on and transplanting into my 83 Camaro. Thanks again.
Low oil pressure is prob the oring on the oil pickup... I switched mine and got oil pressure back
@@MississippiDan1 Greatly appreciate the "confirmation" after a lot of reading and computer time, I have come to the conclusion that may very well be the case. As an update to my original post, I am now going to pull the running eng. from my van and pull front cover / oil pan and inspect O ring as well as oil pump assm. I always ran Amsoil, only highway miles, and Fingers Crossed I will be back in business.
Thanks for all the info it helps me a lot I have never done a large swap.but I am gonna put a ls in my 94 short bed Chevy, thanks again for the info and I will be watching you. And listening to you, have a great day
Malcom Johnson I’m wishing I would have done an LS swap on my 94 Z71 3.5 years ago instead of dropping stupid money in a traditional rebuilt SBC. So take it from me, you’re gonna be much happier in the with an LS swap. My rebuilt engine is putting out 350-360 horsepower and 370-380 torque. I have about $5,000 in it throttle body to oil pan, and it’s still not 100% right.
P.S. love your videos and input it is so educational and straight to the point and that is why I like it. No bs and to the point.
I am all new to this LS stuff. Im putting together a 408 lq4 with a muncie 4spd. In my 66 nova. Should be potent. Im learning along the way. I think the Holley efi might be my choice since I will eventually using twin turbo setup. Love this tech stuff. Thanks.
Holley is pretty easy to learn.
The truth of all of them is you do have to learn them though
Looking for info on putting an LS in my T-bucket for Goodguys autocross, this has been a good resource. From what I'm finding out any healthy 5.3 will be more than enough to spin the tires through first gear, anywhere in first gear up to torque peak. Talking 1800 pound car with 9 inch 200 treadwear tires. So this series has been a major time and money saver for me.
Gotta ask where you are from.. my last name is Clary as well
Glad to see you got the pups involved. My debate is my truck is a,99 Silverado and I have been having issues with the instrument cluster and minor ground issues. It has all the bells and whistles like heated seats, mirrors, power everything and then some. Wanted to rebuild my transmission to handle 400-500 at most. Want to drive everyday and be able to get on it and have a little weekend fun with it after I am done. Your thoughts are welcome and thank you for your advice and time
If I wanted to beat on something and have it live without question, I'd want a 4l80
@@TheDrivewayEngineer thanks for the heads up and I will be looking forward to finding one for my truck.
the Holly Computer setup has alot of positives. Yeah it's a bit pricey but you can control shift points, RPMs fuel maps, timing, run your water pump, fans etc.... apples to oranges I guess
Subbed and smacked the like. I wish I still lived in Michigan.. grew up in Pellston, Petoskey, Alpena, Cheboygan, now stuck on the yuck.. Columbus, Ohio
Great work brother! Just a heads up I watch a lot longer than 10 mins! 😂 thanks for all your time and information helping me plan my next build out much better!
used micrsquirt all the time the trans controller they have works really well
I've seen some custom tuned by a good tuner with stock electronics that make a very big difference in horsepower and torque throughout the entire rpm range and make a noticeable difference that can be felt in the seat of your pant and l have a MSD LS in a carbureted LS since 2008 it has been trouble free and works extremely well
Great video. Lots of good info here. Thanks for sharing JR.
I recently bought the efisource micro, harness, coil igniter, and stepper adaptor.
Having a video on how to manually shift the 80e would be sweet.
The classic car needs overdrive.
I’m enjoying this basics series and all the low buck options presented.
I have a 4L80 on my bench, as soon as I get my bench set up for my transmission fixture I'll be tearing into it. I can definitely cover the manual shift option during that.
The Driveway Engineer Will be much appreciated.
I did find this but it’s still $215.
Not sure exactly what it does.
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That just has the solenoids shorted out for you so that you can manually shift up and down, full line pressure all the time. It's the same thing as what I'm talking about, already done for you.
Excellent information, I think you could have cut the time in half. Watch it yourself. I do appreciate your time and knowledge.
@Andy Elwood Do what I started doing after 39 years of marriage ...Listen to every third word and nod your head. It’s much shorter.
The difference is, you can comeback and watch his video over to catch the information you need three weeks from now.
Fantastic video! Super, super helpful and practical advice. Have done Fi-Tech on SBC, Moates QH on a 408W, but clueless on LS options and tradeoffs (theoretically good features vs. simple, good enough and get it driving)
Straight to the point. Much appreciated
Man you are the guy! I’m new to LS and we are about to LS swap my sons 1984 notch mustang ! My buddy told me to check out and subscribe to your channel for Loads of great LS content and he wasn’t kidding! This video is especially cool because we will be running a basic stock cammed 5.3 street strip car and only looking for some mid to low 12s. Thanks for the awesome info!
I'm glad the videos help!
@@TheDrivewayEngineer yes, sir tremendously
First off I really appreciate you and the information you provided.. I have a question about the transmission.. I have a 94 yukon two 4x4 that has a 4l60e that's been built to handle 500hp i want to swap with a 5.3 i wanted to know what I need to do to get them to work together I hear so many different ways and they are no good for a swap
If you're looking for just a PCM, V6 truck blue/green plug PCM's have IAC & AC drivers. Full size vans with stabilitrak can have PCM's without the IAC & AC drivers. I believe all 8.1l's also have the drivers.
The choke doesn’t make a vehicle idle the choke is the equivalent of cold start enrichment on efi. The idle set screws and throttle screw maintain idle air fuel and speed with a carb.
I'm building a airboat and I'm going to be running a 6.0 out of a 2005 Escalade with a small cam I'm on a tight budget but I'm very able with mechanical and wiring .what would you suggest would be the best option for my motor considering I have the whole Escalade . my wife retired it when she got her new car so its complete and everything works in it so it can donate anything I would need
What do you need for a transmission? Probably not anything factory right?
And then I'd assume it's never going to run in freezing temps either. So with all that, I'd probably throw a Microsquirt in it and be done, sell everything else from the donor but the engine.
@@TheDrivewayEngineer there's just a mechanical geardrive and prop. it's gonna be in Florida in hot and moderate cold weather it will need o2 sensors but nothing as far as transmission the engine load will increase as the rpm increases
Yeah, I'd microsquirt it, sell your factory harness and PCM to get the cost back.
@@TheDrivewayEngineer cool thanks
should i keep my sm465 or just switch to auto i would like to keep the 4 on the floor but i do want to get better mpgs what do you suggest
Tough to get mileage without overdrive.
Thanks again for info
Great Video, keep them coming. Great information!
Thanks for watching!
hello how are you plz i have hummer h3 2006 v5 3.5 l with E40 ECM if i find v8 gn4 with E67 Ecm and harness i can put it on my h3 and work properly all gauges and ABS and traction control? and transmission sure i wanna make changes in the 4l60 to v8 ...
Probably not
@@TheDrivewayEngineer what is better to do ?
I wanted to go the MS route due to the fun for soldering the PCB and lots of tinkering, but holly shit batman Im not paying $500 to shift a transmission. I do like the IAC for ease of cruse control and the controller for the 4l80 is built right in but HP Tuners and the damn kit is $500 and credits to flash another "holly shit batman". 5.3 with a torquey cam, headers , trailblazer ss intake, mod the temp when fans kick on, change the rpm with trans shift? and retro fit cluster gauges into a 80's B body sedan or just plug a tablet into the obd2 port and call it a day.
HP Tuners is 300 plus credits
For my ls swap 86 shorty van I'm thinking about the psi engine control kit
Great video good common sense .
O.E or a Quickfuel carb!!
Heard horror stories from aftermarket fi. I went wth a Qf carb I have not had any issues, its good on gas I spent $500 on it, its my daily driver.
I had a Quickfuel carb on my truck before I swapped an LS in, it was a fine carb.
The issue is, 500 carb,+500 intake and driver for coils, and you've far surpased the cost of a harness and tune, and now you don't have trans control either.
PCM ending in 6106 from 2003-2004 has the IAC driver. But true, the majority of P59 variants are missing it.
Quick question, if I get a”doner” truck, I can pull and use that harness, right? I’m trying to go dirt cheap.
Thanks, JP
Yep, that's the way to do it
The Driveway Engineer do you or others have a “how to” trim/modify/clean up your factory harness?
thanks, very informative!
If u want stock HP and stock reliability, go OEM. If u want forced induction, aftermarket is better.
So I've been watching your channel for a while now. I live in Northern Illinois area. Just curious as if I could use an 01 Buick PCM as they look similar to the LS and rewriting it for possibly 5/3 or 6.0 I asked this cuz these PCMS are a lot cleaner looking and are not eaten away buy corrosion
great informative video .. i have gen 3 6.0 out van harness was cut ecm was gone.. looking to do cam swap ... after watchn video taught me sum things .. wanted to get Painless wiring harness built..can i buy ecm to run it..thanks in advance
Everything you need, right here, it's like 550 bucks
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Hey i thank you for the information this is the second video of yours i have seen. Im in the middle of debating, swapping my 1997 cheyenne to a 5.7 or a 5.3ls from a sierra ive got 4 5.3 blocks i was wondering what all i would need to swap a 5.3 to my 97 i was goin to go with a gen 3 since my sierra is a drive by cable as well as my cheyenne is im just wanting it to drive and function with no headaches later down the road im sorry its a lengthy question. Any information would be useful as this would be my first engine swap of this caliber. I have done alot of reading and reaserching for information would just like a simplistic answer since my budget is not real large and would be over time to do. Thank you in advance, and any information would be useful since im doing all this myself.
thanks for the info I'm going to use it
Good! I'm glad it helped!
Good video
Good info.
Trying to figure out what to go with on my 04 Pontiac GTO 5.7 liter LS 6-speed manual
Why change from the ECU it has?
ok thanks ill use the stock one now to figer what i need for tuning it as i build ? hp tuners or what would u recomend and ill be pickin up a 02 cencer and gauge
HP Tuners is the way to go.
Great info. Have a 2000 bmw e38, really close to pulling a trigger on the swap.
Glad I could help
Can I go stock harness and still run my sm465. I hunt out of truck and some driving around town. Keep up the good videos
Yes it's not a problem
Thanks man. Do you think I will have to shorten or lengthen my driveshaft.
Depends if you move the trans or not, you don't have to
What do you suggest as far as motor mounts to keep from having to change change my driveshaft. Thanks alot.
Hey I have a 99 1500 Silverado with 4.3l drive by cable. I want to do either 5.3l or 6.0 havent found what I want yet. My concern can I make my 4.3l ecm do this. An can I still use my 4l60e or do I need an adapter plate? I know that doesn't pertain to this just curiosu
You still have the red/blue P01 PCM, running a 5.3 is just a matter of programming it correctly.
I'm not super sure what parts of the harness will be different, but probably not much. The coil packs come to mind though, and injectors.
As far as the transmission, it will bolt up with 4 or 5 bolts, the pattern is different, but some still match, you'll need a spacer just like the one they use to put a TH350 behind an LS. Or you can just swap in a LS 4L60E and it'll fit and work fine.
@@TheDrivewayEngineer alright awesome thank you so much your videos have been big help. Ive already ordered hp tuner just to mess with on the 4.3 before I go to the v8 keep these videos going doing great. Guess one more question maybe you can add it to your series but how to pick which generation of "ls" pros cons or benefits be great
If you watch any HP Tuners vids, like mine for instance, my 8.1 reads as a 4.3 V6 lol, because that's the base model that uses the PCM, everything else is an option.
I will keep that in mind, maybe I'll do a vid on the differences between the Gen III IV and V stuff, thanks for watching!
@@TheDrivewayEngineer oh really Haha I was wondering why it said that in your video and ya that'd be excellent I know it would help me allot with my motor choice an im sure others
If I didn’t get the pedal, what could I do for a drive by wire application? Thanks for the video
Never mind. You answered the question. I have drive-by cable.
You can always get one from the same year as your donor harness.
Chevy Performance, Lokar, and PSI all make aftermarket pedals as well.
Go to junk yards and find one for you application.
@@TheDrivewayEngineer I picked up a LM4 from a '03 Envoy XL complete with harness and fuse box. However, the pedal and pigtail where missing. I did pick up a drive by wire pedal, harness and module from a '05 avalanche. Will they it work with my envoy harness and pcm?
I got a gen 3 5.3 from a wrecking yard and they cut the harness and it didn't come with a ECU. I'm going to use a th400 so is microsquirt the move? It's going in a street/strip '53 Studebaker. Just looking to go mid 9s. They keep raising the price of terminator x
The factory stuff is always the move lol
good videos thank you keep them comming
Hey man I bought a wreaked truck and used everything followed you and done it all myself only thing is the guy I sent it to tune it he told me it wasn’t any good as it was locked somehow and he couldn’t unlock it
That's a bummer, another tuner might be able to unlock it, or you grab another PCM in the junkyard for 50 bucks or less.
With stock ECM there is different fuel mapping for manual transmission vs automatic. Does the Microsquirt just find a happy medium and they work well with either? Project is a '79 C-10 with an SM-465.
so i got this 2003 truck 5.3 LS with no manifold, starter or ecu or alternator or sparkplug wires. . it had 160,000 on and he wanted 300 but i only gave him 200 until he comes up with some or all of those parts especially ecu
SO MY QUESTION IS; can i use say a 2006 5.3 LS ecu with my 2003 engine? he says it has "vats deleted 60 pound injectors mild boost start up tune."
will this TUNE be worthless to me w/0 bigger injectors?
how much should i pay for just any old compatible ecu that i still need a tune for?
im in canada so thats km and cdn dollars
Can you build a 97c1500 to ls4 swap harness.
I acquired a 2010 c1500 6.0 and need help with this
Hi have a ? I mis match the cus i bought just the block and trans by its self the rest i had to buy it separate. But having a problem it starts and idles when i press on the gas it chokes
I have a complete donor 06 Silverado 5.3 going into my fix for a fun street car should I just try to rewrite it or just buy a stand alone harness?
Great video. I subscribed.
Hey looking for help I have a OBS 94 manual transmission drive by cable and I’m swapping the engine for a 2005 Escalade 5.3 vortex which ECM would you recommend ? Thank you
I always just use a stock one
What if your using carb swap with a 411 do i need the DBW or DBC ? Does it apply to it too?
Does the 4.8 and 5.3 both run 411 ecm? Before we get into wire vs cable, just trying to simply what I’m looking for at this moment. I have the whole swap except the ecm so I’m trying to educate myself on which unit to get. The motor, trans, harness, and accessories came with a truck I bought but it was missing the ecm.
Every truck runs the same ecm for the year
@@TheDrivewayEngineer I was thinking so but I wanted a little confirmation. I stumbled upon your channel last night and subbed after watched half a doz videos. Great information your putting out for the public. 😎
What is involved with using a 0411 PCM from an 01 5.3L Silverado to run my 2000 5.7 LS1? What has to be changed in order to get it running besides VATS and stuff like that?
That's it, VATs
Can you make a video on how to pick out parts for an engine. One that Indcludes stuff like compression ratio, how it’s affected by what factors, stroke, displacement, and just every little detail.
I know this is an old video, but I’m going to swap a 5.3 and 4l60 from a 02 suburban into my 97 tj. It’s a complete donor and it’s dbc. Should I and can I convert this ecu/harness to run dbw? Also mild cam exhaust and shift kit can be tuned with these ecm as well? Thank you
I almost always just leave them whatever way they are.
You have a DBC, run it that way
I wish I had found you before I got rid of my wife’s SRX I would of probably put a 5.3 and tranny setup
That would be an awesome swap!
Seems like the new Holley Terminator X would be a good budget option, $999 but you get a lot for the money
It's a minimum of 1300 for the X Max with trans control though. You do get a wideband, but for most guys who just want to build a driver/weekend warrior, it's just too much.
Good info bro i have the stock ecu and harness
The Driveway Engineer so in all actuality what you’re spending is about a 1000 using stock ecu with buying wiring harness and getting it tuned etc....
Yeah, no, not even close
I got everything but it come out of C5 Corvette how do I make that work
I have 2000 Blazer.want Al.5.3.I like my wiring,very simple,nothing to remove.How to add 2 plug wires,and 2 injectors?Thanx.
That's the answer, add 2 injectors and 2 coil packs.
Thanx
I hate to be this guy but....I have a basic 1981 Toyota pickup I'm swapping. I got excited and bought a 2005 5.3 takeout truck motor got the full harness & ecm but being a noob didn't get the pedal, it's a DBW. Currently setting up for ar5 trans, elgin 1840p cam, 1218 springs, 80lb injectors and headers for now (later possibly add turbo). Wanting a basic local beater the with boost would be happy with 500 tire so I'm pretty well lost with the tuning/wiring stuff, would I be better off going with the microsquirt with the harness you mentioned for 400 or sending off the stock computer and harness??
Microsquirt will work really well for you I think
@@TheDrivewayEngineer Thank you for the reply! Then you can buy an aftermarket pedal and use that right? And you wont have to buy different software (like hptuners) for a laptop to do any tuning right?
You'll have to use cable throttle with Microsquirt, just grab a cable TB from the boneyard. You can use Tunerstudio with the Micro for free, it's freeware.
Great information! I'm at this crossroads right now. Certainly made me think. I plan on running a t56. Would you recommend ms or factory ecm?
I generally will just run the factory PCM if it's available
@@TheDrivewayEngineer okay, I didn't get the fuse block with my pullout. Should I go back and try to get that?
@@tradinghouseDesignCo it's worth having, you can use it if you want to
I have an LQ4 im rebuilding for my 2000 trans am, the car already had an LS1 in it, but the previous owner beat it until it died and i figured for 250 bucks at u-pull it'd be cheaper to put an LQ4 in it. Where im confused is with weather or not i can just use the same LS1 ECU and flash an LQ4 tune onto it. Anything else i might get blindsided by with that swap? its a 2004 LQ4 with 317 heads and the car it's going in is a manual t56 stock.
Yep, just plug it all in
@@TheDrivewayEngineer Sweet! Thanks you very much!
I got ahold of 2003 Van express van, would it be worth doing a plug and play, using everything from harness, body module and dash into a C20.
Idk what you mean by plug and play, or by worth it...
Watch more videos I guess, the engine and truck don't need to interact at all
I have a project car running the dreaded OBD1.5 (okay, it's mostly OBD1). I sometimes wonder if I could use a modern stock ECU as an upgrade. BTW, I mumble pinouts on the old system in my sleep, and know every wire well.
If you can 411 swap your project, it's a very versatile PCM.
@@TheDrivewayEngineer 12200411? And then I'd have OBDII? I've got a top end from a 2006 3500 V6 (Malibu, G6) that will bolt to this block, might be a good overall move
Finished my need for watching bout 9 minutes in.... stayed til the end out of spite of what you said about 10 minutes lmfao
Have you done a video for swapping into a chevelle ?
Can I use a 2002 pcm to run a 5.3 out of a 2007 tahoe? I bought a standalone harness for cheap. But I wonder if the pcm will work on the 2007 engine.
Sure, if it all matches
I know that this is more of a ecm video but what is your opinion on the transgo hd3 for the 4l80 it uses manifold vaccum to manage line pressure and still have full manual control
You can just wire the plug, have full line pressure, and not spend anything.
@@TheDrivewayEngineer yea I was worried about temps it's going in a Ford bronco on 33s and the shock load on the axle
Can you tell me a little bit about swapping to different throttle bodies ? i ordered 2 different harness but none of the connectors are the same as my 2002 throttle body and tps
The only difference in truck stuff is DBW to DBC
@@TheDrivewayEngineer but the dbw throttle bodies are different. Mine is 02 and it changes in 03 I believe. I'm curious if it would work if I just got a 03+ and plugged it in. I'm assuming it uses a different pedal box too
Yes, 99-02 is one kind, 03-07 is the other kind
@@TheDrivewayEngineer I ordered the wrong harness twice, I had no idea there was different tb lol. Now I have to adapt to the newer one
Is there by any chance an adapter pigtail that works?
Hi appreciate your videos & help i have a 2001 corvette ls6 red and blue connectors but its dbw is this right? It supposedly came out of the same car but dude said it was an ls1 but i checked numbers and its a ls6 block with 241 heads do you know what type of pcm i have the sticker numbers are weathered off dude did say it had a stuck shift trans do please any info is appreciated
The red/blue PCMs can do DBW or DBC.
It's the standard 411, P01 PCM we all use, totally tunable
@@TheDrivewayEngineer thank you very much. I appreciate your time and help
I used ur suggestion and used a micro squirt do you have a link on a wiring diagram I'm the guy with the airboat with a lq9 2005 Escalade motor plz help me
ls1tech.com/forums/forced-induction/1616912-how-microsquirt-fuel-spark-your-lsx-swap-sloppy-mechanics-how-8-10-13-a.html
I have a 2010 gen 4 LY6 dbw its $200 to tune and flash my pcm plus $600 for the harness and that not including shipping. So in my case do it make sense to go with the Holley? Since I'm spending the same amount of money.
I was thinking of using the stand-alone harness from PSI What do you think of them? Running a stock 6.0 with 4L80E from 2004 2500 van. Plan on leaving stock. Putting in 57 Chev truck
PSI has good customer service and people who use them like them.
I believe they are importing from China and they don't have much flexibility when I see people ask them for custom stuff, it's basically a one size fits all kind of harness.
I personally like reworked stock harnesses, you can get them from people like Andy Bryant at LSX Specialties, John Kawaski at Johns Custom wiring, and Jason Richard on Facebook. They'll make them anyway you want, longer to hide the ecu in the cab, flip from side to side, whatever. Usually at a lower price than an all new harness from BP Automotive.
i have a gen 4 6.0(ly6)
i wanna use a drive by cable throttle and a 4l60e
what ecu would you suggest i use?
Not gonna work with a stock ECU
@@TheDrivewayEngineer so fitech or holley are my best options?
I have a 2008 gmc sierra 1500 4x4, I'm putting 373s in gears, a gen3 lq9 bored .20 over in my truck, can I use my normal ECU just will need a tune or do I need a different ECU and wiring harness?
A Gen III engine won't run on a Gen IV pcm
@@TheDrivewayEngineer so what pcm would I need to make it work?
Were does the $600 or $700 come in at , using your old wiring harness an computer
I'm doing a LS swap into a boat. I think the stock ecu drive by wire is the right way to go. I'm not looking for anything crazy but the operating temps might be significantly cooler. Is that something I can play with enough on. A stock ecu?
There's no reason a stock ECU can't meet your needs, and it's easier to tune, in my opinion
@@TheDrivewayEngineer thanks
A single plane intake a holley 850 hp carburetor and a MSD box for LS engines
If I wanted all that nonsense I would have kept my 406
@@TheDrivewayEngineer well that none sense has gone 10.97 at a 123mph on the motor in a 3380 pound 1984 Monte Carlo SS with me in it my 383 smallblock with a solid cam only went 11.80 with the same setup it was done in 2008 it pulls like a freight train to 7200rpm and still runs as good or better than when first installed 11 years ago with nothing more than gas and regular maintenance without the headache of installing a gas pedal to make it work
@@TheDrivewayEngineer it's a LS2 with cnc ported LS3 heads and a 600 lift hydraulic roller cam
@@TheDrivewayEngineer the car has made 12 passes on two separate days ran 11.0 to 11.6 but the last pass was 10.97 guy at ticket booth told me don't bring the car back until it has a cage that was 2012 the car went 120mph or better except one pass the 11.6 it went 117mph the car has embarrassed a 2016 Z06 2018 Hellcat many modded Mustang 5.0s and 2017 modded LT1 camaro to name a few on the street all are fuel injection so far it's been beat by a 1987 mustang with a 5.3 LS with a 200 hit of nitrous and a 1967 nova powered by a modded 427 LS all were carberated
@@TheDrivewayEngineer this thing did it with power steering and brakes a vigilante 3000rpm lockup torque converter 700r4 trans and a buick GN 8.5 rearend with 4.10 gears stock limited slip
Will they run a newer 6 speed automatic such as an allison..are they programmable for that application?
The factory ecu will
Weird question, do you think it's a halfway decent idea to reflash my 00 suburban's ECM to a 06 software for the horsepower and torque gains? And yes I do know it's only about a 20ish difference. Thanks for the input.
The two aren't at all compatible
@@TheDrivewayEngineer okay, thanks for the reply
@@TheDrivewayEngineer so I guess it is a cam swap, could you recommend a decent cam for it, upgraded trans, but not the converter, and I'd probably change out the valve springs since I'm already there. Thanks again for the knowledge
So I need a matching pedal for dbw that matches the ecm serial codes? That’s it I’m sticking to dbc
Hey.. so what if my engine didn't come with the harness? Can I use any Ecm and harnesses?
The easiest harness to use will be one that matches your engine
Do you have a video covering Displacement on Demand? Should all new engines that have this be avoided?
What if it has hybrid system?
I do not have a DOD video, as I do not have any Gen IV engines in the fleet.
Cost and simplicity are the reasons for that. DOD can be taken care of with a cam and lifter swap, but the higher cost of the engines, along with all the extra DOD crap is why I avoid them
A Gen III 5.3 is 500 or less loaded into your truck, Gen IV stuff is so expensive you may as well skip to Gen V.
And once you add a cam and headers, the difference is negligible.
Where can I send ecu to get a base tune to get started. When on the road will have someone do a dyno tune.
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Painless has a harness set that runs everything An your trans you use your old pcm have to get it flashed. Part number 60221, what u think about them. $727
I think the harness that it came with will do all that
@@TheDrivewayEngineer yeah but I have no clue what to pull out of the old wiring harness that I don’t need. You know like do I need to use that 10” x8” fuse box lol.First time I’ve ever fooled with doing this kinda of confusing, but I do have the whole truck that I’m pulling the motor out of. It use seem like the painless wiring harness was simpler. But it’s pricey
@@thruitallauto2538 you don't have to pull anything out of it if you don't want to
There's another youtuber called " ucandoit". He does a very in depth harness strip and rebuild.
@@brianhaw9398 I ended up using none of the wiring harness, an bought a wiring harness an computer already programmed for my truck set up from psi, plug an run
What's a perfect motor, trans, etc for a 2000 540i e39 swap?
Whatever one is in your budget and is complete. Just get everything together, don't worry about a bunch of casting numbers and crap. Guy's run 7's on 4.8's with untouched heads.
@@TheDrivewayEngineer Thank you for the info.. excellent content.
Being complete is crucial, get the engine, all accessories, harness, etc etc together.
@@TheDrivewayEngineer Yes indeed.
Will the red/blue cable physically fit the P59?
They are not interchangeable
@@TheDrivewayEngineer OK. Since I have a P59 computer, I guess I need to hunt for an express van harness... Thanks!
What's your opinion on lsdroid? Also for 862's am I wasting money if I get them hand ported and milled to get 11.1-11:5.1 compression? Is it gonna net me alot more power? Or am I going into 93 octane only territory just for a very small margin of increase in power?
Wondering if I could load a tune and get the car going without getting a Dyno tune at first so I can drive the car there's no dyno's close by
LS Droid is great to get a straight swap running, I have videos on it.
When you need tuning, not so great because there's no way to datalog. You can take best guesses, but it's not nearly as safe or easy as HP Tuners.
Then when you get to the dyno, they can't tune it lol
Thanks alot for the info brother
Anytime, forgot about the heads.
The 706/862 are only worth it at all if you're paying like 50 bucks or less for them, I definitely wouldn't do a buck of extra stuff to them
Thanks again
Hey I’m wanting to wire my ls up to start on my engine stand. I know it’s all the pink Wires and a few other wires. By chance could you either explain to me in a reply or do a short video I want wires to do? Because all the other videos I watch these people don’t explain it correctly and white wires to actually hook up. Thanks man