Elden Ring Lore - The Mystery of the Crystalians
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
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I told them to stay away from that blue curacao
I always thought the crystalline enemies were made from the crystals in those mine caves but wow insane that they were created from magic and that they are looking for a master to serve
Incorrect: they're supposed to be waiting for their master and creator, as they can't make more of themselves on their own.
similar to the sorcerers whos heads have turned to glintstone, i think the crystalians probably cannot speak to us because they are currently functioning on a higher plane, seeing through fate and distracted gazing into the cosmos and stuff, only dimly aware of what is going on in the physical world around them.
With these Crystalians being resistant to almost everything; in addition to the rot variant, it would've been nice if we got some others that survived in harsh terrains like a poison one or a frostbitten one
your videos are awesome, still enlightening me about this godzilla of a game.
i think the knowledge about primal glintstones was something that the crystallians taught the sorcerers.
I theorize the Crystalians were created by the same ancient civilization that fell from the sky. The same ones that created the Golems. It could've been that civilization was a civilization of Astrologers, hence their connection to Raya Lucaria or even Sellia town could be their descendants. Just a thought I know it's some holes in that theory
Rennala is the last of the astrologers. Which I think is cool because it is said in game that glinstone sorcery can extend you life. So, Rennala must be still very powerful to look like she’s in her early thirties or late 20s.
The Crystalians are absolute mysteries. I've been able to find out more about the Uhl and the Uld than I have the Crystalians. I genuinely don't know what to make of them. I haven't been able to come to any solid conclusions about what they are, who made them (if anyone even did), or where they came from.
What is apparent is that although they are incredibly sophisticated, they are barely sentient. They're exactly what it says on the tin, they're just golems. But that just wraps back around to their mystery.
For the first time since I've started looking into and studying Elden Ring's lore, I'm genuinely at a loss. I'm actually stumped. Maybe that's the point of the Crystalians, whatever it implies is beyond me.
I wrote this ☝ before I watched the video. You've definitely provided some critical insights into their origins. I never imagined that they could have their roots tied to the same medium Sellen uses to house her soul and transfer it from vessel to vessel. It might be that they are living primal glintstones.
I think this ties into what I believe happened to the Uhl. I believe the Claymen were priests who were more "normal" at one point. After precepting the inevitable utter destruction of their civilization at the hand of the Astel and (maybe the Golden Order as well) through their Oracle Bubbles, the Uhl and the Uld turned desperate and started preparing for their apocalypse.
Some turned to primitive methods and became what we know as the Ancestral Followers, some turned themselves to clay in order to preserve themselves and their dynasty, and others turned to wandering and became what we know as the Astrologers. What you said about some of the Astrologers turning themselves into what could be living bodies of primal glintstone sounds reasonable to me. It stands to reason, at least, from a preservation perspective similar to how some of the Uhl turned themselves to clay.
But where are all the Astrologers now? Are they all golems? Did they join their descendants at the Academy of Raya Lucaria? The only remains of them I've found are their clothes sold by the hermit merchant in Liurnia and the Sorcerers' Rise in the Mountaintops, where you can learn the Founding Rain of Stars spell.
I'd argue the last of the astrologers joined raya lucaria alongside Rennala
Wow, that is a very well put together theory, I never thought to put the pieces together like this; It's kind of hidden in plain sight when I think about it
Referring to your thoughts on the Giants crafting the Crytallians, If you've watched Tarnished Archeologists recent video on The Divine Towers, he supposes that their may have been a great civilization of Ancient Giants, who were the first to craft and forge and the various Golems we find throughout the lands are likely their work as well; they have also endured for who knows how long. If we were to accept TA's theory, I'd say this theory on the Crystalians fits quite well with it.
But then what's the link between the giants and Farum Azula? Why do we teleport to it when we burn the erdtree? Were those golems made to defend against the malformed stars? If there was a giant civilization what were their relationship with Farum Azula?
Some of the best ashes aswell. The things basically can tank some bosses.
Honestly it fascinates that they have the scarlet rot. Suggesting either they are fleshy somewhere. Or that the rot isn't just for the flesh. And is something maybe for all lifeforms to experience and/or the rot can effect everything.
Reminds me of how lichens can grow on rock, breaking it down slowly. The Rot adapts to erode things into new life
@@zenebean Exactly that! And that is cool to know! More for the head canon.
the rot is like a super virus created by its outer god, throughout gameplay almost everything can be infected by rot to varying degrees and makes me think of how viruses adapt to transmit from host to host and even cross species at times. I always thought of scarlet rot as not actually infecting the flesh but rather the spirit/soul/primal glintstone of a being with the deformation of the hosts flesh/body as really just a symptom or byproduct of the infection. Kind of like how many bubonic plague victims developed boils and visual markings from their infection but they were still infected for a period before these symptoms started to become visible to the naked eye. The virus infects them and then after it has started to adapt and mature in the hosts body then begins to spread out in force and starts showing signs of the infection.
@@frankydota6478 now that is a spicy headcanon but I'm all about it. Given Selens primal soul thing being noted to have blood vessels and such this supports the idea. I do love the concept of a primal soul being so corrupt or warped that it effects whatever it comes to touch or possess. My guy top theorycraft. Nicely done 🙌
I think it's meant to imply the rots ferocity. Even the very earth itself can be rended by it.
Crystalians : “So anyways i started STABBING”
I love how you present everything as theory and not definite fact
I think it'd be disingenuous to write about these topics and present any of it as gospel. It's all interpretation based on the vague pieces of information and contextual storytelling the game gives us. Do I think some of my theories are correct? Sure, but I'm not going to pretend these are "facts" that can't be disproven or reinterpreted based on new info and theories.
They were most likely golems that were designed by a sorcerer but overtime they became sentient and drifted away from what they were originally were made for, it’s likely that they stay at locations with large amount of glintstones is do to the magical energy that radiates from them while the one’s that are infected by the rot stay at areas that have a strong connection to the rot.🤔🐱
Player:
•transports Sellen’s soul into a crystal•
Marionette:
•appears from behind•
“Hewwo, ith thomeone here?”
•stares at player for 3 seconds•
“Okay, I gueth there ith no one
•leaves•
Also I would like to point out that their appearance seems to largely be taken from the silent era film The Golem. Not really important to the lore, I just think it's neat.
It's definitely a neat detail. I've seen other theories dive into the religious connotations, but I try to stick to what's known in-game.
“Ah yes the Crystalinis.”
I think they may have been Primeval Sorcerers that were assimilated completely by glintstone the way Azur and Lusat were. Their crowns claim that glintstone was replacing even their brains. However, these sorcerers must have found a way to remain functional and ambulatory in the process, or perhaps it was taught to them by their mysterious creator figure. Maybe they search for this person not just to bolster their own numbers, but because it is necessary to the sorcerers’ goal of studying the Primeval Current.
The way these beings float aetherially in an almost Buddha-like pose makes me think they were once men who achieved some kind of enlightenment.
Hi, about Sellen's soul and your conclusions based on it, I recommend first looking at Primal Glintstone Blade which says:
The old sorcerers would slice open their hearts with these blades to imbue a primal glintstone with their soul, and thus did they die.
Both these glintstones are imbued with sorcerers' blood, which in practice seems to make a more durable copy (or rather cut) of one's soul and heart.
I don't think crystalians as they exist now have a hint of such a bloody ritual of sacrificing one's heart. They seem to be animistic in nature; made out of such cosmic stones by hands, instead of the selfish deed of manipulating them for one's benefit of transcending one's soul into immortality.
I'd like to throw in a possible clue. The Crystalians' "hair" style is very similar to the golem in the 1920 movie Der Golem, wie er in die Welt kam.
I honestly belived they were like astel and the onyx and alabaster lords in a sence from somware else like they live inside stars or meteors and when they fall to the lands between they were released and were like "whats this place why are we here" the glinstone, sorcerers and astrolagers would have been the closest they would get to things and people capable of understanding them so became friends mutual benefit i assumed there god was the primevel current but maybe like plasigisax they feel they have been abandond maybe cuz they know longer can float in space they are disconnecte
Glintstone is celestial life force.
To me it makes perfect sense that a living being could be created from them. Despite not necessarily being organic.
And that it bc that life force is a soul or spirit, which has consistent connections to Int. The Ancestral Spirits use a bow that scales with Int, and in general there are lot of spirit related items that relate back to Int.
The mystery of all time!
Who else wants to be able to use their ring blade weapons?
It’s unlikely but I’ll keep my fingers crossed for the DLC.
I would love a video about the Pumpkin heads
We gotchu, I'll add them to the list
We need a video on the Graven masses and what they are!
No one talks about the visual similarities between the crystalians and the default player character when you select your background to be Numen
So truee
The red capes look similar to the watchdog capes.
Seluvis makes puppets, which are like golems 🧐
I hate the stinky ones...
I finally managed to get all trophys and now just waiting for the dlc.
I had a hunch the crystallians might be artificially created, though not to that level. I can take that theory.
Also, annoying to kill, perhaps, but they look like great dancers and circus acts.
Hey, can you make a video about Gowry? I had this thought since you made one about the Blind Swordmaster, didn't suggest it back then, but that would be really cool. Wonder, who can he be... Some manifestation of the Rot itself? Or a sorcerer who studied Rot and went too deep, became somewhat mad? What do you think?
We talk about him in our Millicent video but he could definitely support his own vid
That puppet at 4:49 is all "ayo? did I interrupt something? my bad g"
I would like you to explore dancing old ladies in the windmill villages
We have! Check out our video, "the horrors of dominula"
Forgive me if this was covered in another video and I just forgot but is it possible Ranni was given life in her doll body by using primal glinstone via Seluvis?
Absolutely possible. No one ever talks about how she separated her soul and flesh, primal glintstone would solve that.
Nice yea it just kinda dawned on me as you were talking about how it was done with Sellen
I don't know, it seems pretty likely given all the descriptions and what we know of lore from in game encounters and text that Miquella was almost certainly the one who carved these crystalians.
That's an interesting take, but Miquella has no connection to Raya Lucaria Academy and they seem deeply embedded in glintstone sorcery.
@@square-table-gaming i do agree they are heavily tied to glintstone but they don't make the timeline 100% clear and the way that the items talk of how both the crystalians and their items could never be made by mortal hands just reminds me of the pulley crossbow(avelynn) and the other items and quotes referring to miquella as a genius, how he was the most fearsome of the gods, how he suddenly disappeared and went into his cocoon to rebirth himself. Heck even the crystalians infected by rot being right there in the haligtree just makes me think that he could have been studying the scarlet rot and its influence on inorganic materials. That and there are so many connections between other constructs or works of magic ultimately being left to the wayside in pursuit of a true solution to his twins problem. We see a lot of connections between magic/the study of glintstone eventually being seen as insufficient. The academy gave up the study of the primal currents favoring magics such as the lunar spells, loretta ultimately siding with miquella, the red wolves that can wield magic but are seemingly tied to the golden order or its roots. That and the dlc seeming to be focused on miquella and potentially his rebirth or some sort of time travel mechanic make me think that the crystalians still could be tied to miquella. He easily could have left them with a simple purpose of guarding their crystal as a way of having them stay in important locations until he is reborn or otherwise watching over the lands between and his siblings. I definitely don't think it shows above and behind the benefit of doubt that he WAS the craftsmen behind their creation but there definitely seems to be enough connections to keep the possibility open as a strong likelihood although i did view the idea of a giant or ancestor giant having crafted them as being a very interesting view as well. I still think though that they were crafted by either a demigod or god whether that be from the age of the erdtree (miquella in that ages case) or one from an age before the erdtree potentially being connected to the ones that made the claymen and the ruins strewn about the map from their age
They likely function as familiars. Or perhaps they're meant to be literal divination tools like the crystal ball a soothsayer would employ.
Likely the former, but the latter fits Miyazakis themes id say.
Golden crafter??? First thought was Miquella. Especially with rotten ones being found in the Haligtree. But, I don't know if it's that simple.
my theory is that they're not very smart. their movements are slow and their bodies even though being made out of crystal, they shouldn't wander on the battlefield without some kind of armor. those factors reveal that they're making rookie mistakes.
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Since it is such a reoccurring theme in Elden Ring, I thought the Crystalians were another man made life form like the Albinaurics.
they are definitely another form of artificial life but NOT man made as the descriptions go out of their way to point out that crafting the crystalians or their weapons is impossible for humans. They do remind me of albinaurics in the same way that claymen do. They are all artificial lifeforms made by a people that sought to learn more than their own minds/bodies were capable of learning or understanding. Perhaps these are a more primordial attempt at their creator making a being in their own image? or maybe these were originally made to fight off a type of foe or sickness (such as scarlet rot) but ultimately either failed being capable of doing what they were intended for or if they were to ward off something immaterial like the scarlet rot perhaps after some were infected and turned to putrid crystalians they were left in search of something that actually could do what was needed. Heck a glintstone body may even have been an attempt of miquella or the civilization drowned in the lake of rot at trying to escape its infection?
any idea how some are putrid? Seems strange that the scarlet rot can effect inorganic beings. Could they be connected to ranni somehow with her doll body (was her body made by their master? could it be her armour smith who crafted both her body and them?) If they are souls inside crystals how do spirit caller snails summon them? Surely the spirit would be on their original body not the statue they entered as spirit ashes are generally the original body of who died. They seem closer to puppets than spirits imo.
I responded to a comment above with a full idea of how these inorganic beings are infected but basically think of scarlet rot as really being an infection of the spirit or "soul" of a being and not a living infection that needs a living host to grow just a spiritual infection that needs any living host to grow regardless of what it is made of as long as it has free thought and a spirit it could be infected. As for how they are summoned by the snails: i disagree with the video idea of these being sorcerers placed into these bodies on that same premise as you pointed out. I believe these are another artificial lifeform just like the different generations of albinaurics. These bodies were crafted to a humanoid shape but were inhabited by fake souls or crafted souls and that these souls were placed in the constructs to allow them free thought and actions.
I find it odd that there is any differentiation at all between glintstone and crystal. It would seem that they would be one and the same. Perhaps the difference comes down to purity. I don't know.
That being said, could you try taking a look at the Spiritcaller Snails? I have no idea what these things are, how they do what they do, or even if these things actually are snails. The wiki certainly seems to think they aren't.
Is this still the legacy of Seath the Scaleless? 🤔
Crystal bodies helping ones understanding in the Primeval Current isnt new. Azur and Lusat peered into the PC and overtime their flesh would turn into crystal maybe as far as replacing parts of the brain. The crystalians look more refined and handcrafted in comparison, if they were sorcerers then maybe they willingly gave up their bodies so they could understand the PC better. Since their creator disappeared this technique to craft Crystalian bodies was lost and now are the last ones left who have the best understanding of the PC. But i wonder who understands the Current better: Lusat and Azur with their "natural" crystal bodies or the Crystalians with their "crafted" bodies?
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Sellens primal glintstone has no relevance to crystalians but i like the video
Sellens specifically no, but the concept that sorcerers can remove their souls by placing them in glintstone could absolutely be relevant
They definitely seem to be the work of an ancient sorcerer but the soul transplantation I think is adjacent to the crystalians. The crystalians seem to predate Marika and thus immortality. And Sellens true identity is also a good topic.
Yeah what the heck is up with these guys anyway?
I know right?
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